GenX Women are Sick of This Shit!
GenX Women are Sick of This Shit is a nostalgic nod to the humans of GenX in the Midwest. Each episode, co-hosts Megan Bennett and Lesley Meier, have an ADHD driven conversation about GenX history and pop culture using their own lives and experiences growing up in Indianapolis as the backdrop. The podcast is a creative project inspired by the Facebook group 'GenX Women are Sick of This Shit', created by Megan Bennett in 2023. "Five Minutes of Fame" stories and "Dear GenX Women" letters are sent in by listeners and members of the Facebook group and are shared with consent. The original Facebook group is a mosh pit of menopausal women talking about all things GenX culture and life in the 70s, 80s and 90s as well as being a GenXer today. GenX Women are Sick of This Shit is part of Latchkey Kids Media, LLC where we make things we like because we want to. Copyright 2025, Latchkey Kids Media, LLC
GenX Women are Sick of This Shit!
Puppies, Periods, and Pac-Man Cereal: An After School Special
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What do breakfast cereals, women's health concerns, and government overreach have in common? They're all part of the rich tapestry of Gen X experiences that Megan and Lesley explore in this wide-ranging, authentic conversation.
The episode opens with exciting puppy news as Megan introduces her new emotional support puppy, Olive! Lesley transparently shares her recent postmenopausal health scare, walking listeners through her experience seeking prompt medical care. The good news? Everything turned out benign. The more important message? Women's health matters, and places like Planned Parenthood provide critical services for those without insurance or primary care access. (PS Lesley does know that 'Waiting for Godot' was written by Samuel Beckett - she does not have to hand in her theater kid card.)
Who died this week? The promoter of the Foreman Grill! (And Professional Boxer!) RIP George Foreman.
Shifting gears, the hosts address disturbing trends in civil liberties, focusing on a Venezuelan soccer player seeking asylum who was detained without due process. Their passionate discussion highlights concerns many Gen X women share about government overreach and the protection of basic rights. Shout out to the beloved Chatterbox Jazz Club! (Don't be an asshole people.)
The conversation then dives into breakfast cereal nostalgia in all its sugary glory. From Wheaties boxes featuring Olympic heroes to character-branded cereals like Mr. T and Pac-Man, the hosts explore how cereal marketing exploded alongside mothers entering the workforce. Remember those miniature cereal boxes that transformed into cereal bowls? Or the excitement of digging for plastic prizes that sometimes ended up stuck to your ceiling? These shared memories illuminate how convenience foods shaped our generation and continue to influence food culture today.
Throughout it all, Megan and Lesley maintain their signature blend of humor, vulnerability, and no-nonsense commentary that makes listeners feel like they're catching up with old friends. Whether discussing serious health concerns or debating which cereal was most likely to "cut your face open," their authentic connection shines through.
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Intro and Puppy Talk
Speaker 1I'm Megan Bennett, I'm Leslie Meyer and this is Gen X. Women Are Sick of this Shit.
Speaker 2Hi Leslie, Hi Megan, how are you? I am fabulous.
Speaker 1That question just gets more loaded every time we have one of these podcasts.
Speaker 2I know like what am I supposed to say? I don't know the real answer, the real answer, but functionally in this moment, other than being a little sleepy, I'm good. It's Sunday morning.
Speaker 1It is Sunday morning. This is a fun Sunday morning. I'm glad I get to spend it with you. Oh you gave me all the warm fuzzies.
Speaker 2It's true, I'm glad you're spending it with me too, and I know you're giving up a lot right now.
Speaker 1I have a puppy.
Speaker 2Because you have a special friend at your house. I do.
Speaker 1I got a puppy yesterday. I feel really special. It's my emotional support puppy. What is your puppy called? My puppy's name is Olive Olive. She's sweet. She's nine weeks old. She slept very well last night and I didn't, but that's okay. I was just waiting. I was like she's going to get up any second.
Speaker 2Oh the old mom hypervigilance kicks right back in.
Speaker 1It's like having a baby.
Speaker 2Just flips and you're like what's wrong?
Speaker 1Any second she's going to wake up, oh my.
Speaker 2God. Yeah, I think that's half the reason that we want our kids to move out eventually is that we can sort of pretend they don't exist anymore, Like in the kindest, most loving way. But that switch is incredibly difficult to turn off internally.
Speaker 1It's really hard. Once there's another living being dependent upon your existence, you do have, at least for me, with mine out of the house. Now there's still sometimes those moments where I'm like I wonder did she make it home? Okay, you know, and then I'll hop on my phone and make sure that she's always supposed to be but sure but once I know she's either at her boyfriend's house or her place, I'm fine, I can sleep, yep.
Speaker 1And then I got a puppy and then you got a puppy yep, so got up sunday morning, came over, saw you and half my pajamas you look great.
Speaker 2Thanks, so do you you look great for a new mom. Oh thanks. Did you ever get some of those like bizarro backhanded compliments? You look great for a new mom, oh you just gave birth.
Speaker 1Oh you look amazing your hair looks great there's somebody who just rolled out of bed. When was the last time?
Speaker 2you showered. I'm like shower Shower. We don't do that shit as an infant. We don't bathe anymore. How do I leave it alone long enough?
Speaker 1to go into the shower. No, you don't, you don't, you don't you don't Okay.
Speaker 2we have a point today.
Speaker 1We are doing an after-school special. I mean in as much as we ever have a point with our. We get to make up the rules so we can do anything we want. These are our rules.
Speaker 2Our show that is hyper-specific to our own experience.
Speaker 1Yes, so this one is a little bit less structured than the others.
Medical Update and Women's Health
Speaker 2Yes, which is funny, it's an after-school special, that's right. And we're going to be talking about I'm going to put the show notes up at the front here we're going to talk about two, maybe two things. Definitely one thing breakfast cereals breakfast cereal because I just ate breakfast before we got started, and then we also talked about book fairs. Yeah, so let's go last we might get there we might get there.
Speaker 1If not, we'll tack it onto the back end of something else.
Speaker 2For sure, and then we have just some life update stuff. So let's start there. You want to talk about the life update stuff? Last episode last, when last we met, I was having a little bit of a medical issue some postmenopausal bleeding and so called right away and got all the appointments. We have a miraculous same day women's clinic on the north side of Indianapolis and they were able to get me in in like three days and I went for an ultrasound. All of the people who assisted me every step of the way were wonderful. Nobody was stressed about anything. So I did my ultrasound and went and sat down for like two minutes and then met with the doctor, nurse, nurse practitioner. But the new step up, probably that one. We're going to say that.
Speaker 1I was going to get there at some point.
Speaker 2Thank you, I appreciate that that and we had a quick conversation and whenever, just like the findings of the ultrasound, uh, we went ahead and did a biopsy that day, which was unexpected. So just in terms of like what you might run into while you hit, your mic this happens. Yeah, um, oh. And my ultrasound in my brain.
Speaker 2I was imagining a pregnancy ultrasound yeah, you know, like, yeah, like on your belly transvaginal baby up in there and I was like oh all right, okay, I'm gonna make out with this for a while, I guess, uh, hey, a little to the right just in terms of and like, not comfortable, right, because you're like trying to get at specific parts. Right, I'm gesturing.
Speaker 1You're just jamming it in there Doing other things, so it's a lot of like. Did they have you in stirrups? You were in stirrups too, like the whole thing, oh yeah, lovely.
Speaker 2So I mean great. Yeah, I'm glad it's. You're trying to get views of like both of your ovaries and your uterus. Sure, Things look different after the menopause. Everything shrinks a little bit In case you didn't know. We've got a whole episode we do. Clitoris just fine, in perfect shape. That's not what I was there for, but I know that we're hanging in Excellent, excellent, so got all that done. The bean Was not necessarily expecting the biopsy that day, but it was sort of like.
Speaker 2I could make another appointment and come back, which seemed dumb, described that really well. It is, you know, like pop a little like thin thread up through your cervix, not comfy. And they're taking a little tissue sample, also not comfy, but knocked all that out and I think it was. That was on a Friday, so I probably got the results back like it was Wednesday or Thursday, so pretty quick. Yeah, everything's fine.
Speaker 1That's awesome.
Speaker 2Everything was benign which is great.
Speaker 1I know you were, I know.
Speaker 2Well, we were all worried and it's, you know, it's 6%, right. Like with all the like information that I did have, I was down to like 6% or less, right, you know, and some might have even said like 1% to 2% chance, but your brain fixates on the 6%, 6% seems like a lot of percent when you're dealing with that absolutely and from our generation, like many of the vaccines that are available now for young people to prevent uterine cancer.
Speaker 2We didn't have that the viruses associated with that uh didn't exist for us, I think they've raised the age now to like is it 40?
Speaker 1I think so.
Speaker 2So yeah, so had they done that a few years ago we would have been fine but now we're like, yeah, outside of the range, right, um for that, and just like there is a tiny. You know, I think my grandmother had a fairly large uterine tumor growth and in her older age, like in her late 70s, early to mid 80s, and she elected not to. You know they were pretty sure it was benign, but she's she wasn't.
Speaker 1In her 80s she was like yeah, I don't want to mess with those lady exams and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2Um, and she lived to be 93, so 99% sure it was not a cancerous thing, but we also didn't experience the negative consequences of that, if it was Right. So just you know, yeah. And then my mom died when she was really young. So also not a lot of medical history in terms of lady things, right?
Speaker 1So you just kind of hang on to that and wait to get the news and your mind does all kinds of bad things and you go to bad places and I'm glad that that was all for not all for not, and we also have sort of like a baseline for what things look like right now should I be bleeding? Oh, that's really good.
Speaker 1You know what I mean so they're like you have a comparative yeah, and you had just started well, not just started, but you had recently started hormone replacement therapy, so that, yeah, had something to do with it, right, like we think probably like bleeding outside of the first six months is considered unusual okay so I have been on it for six months.
Speaker 2It's not unusual to have bleeding in that first six months, but what we think, based on the results and all of that, is just like my progesterone was a little bit too low. Okay, so we've upped that and, should I have any other issues, you are going to sleep like a baby too.
Speaker 1Progesterone is lovely.
Speaker 2So we're going to up that and then see how things go. Okay, good, there you go.
Speaker 1Good PSA just go do the things, go do the. It's not that it's fun. Nobody wants to go do it.
Speaker 2Nope, and I just paid my bill right, so it's money. Yeah, depending on your insurance coverage.
Speaker 1But women's, we have to do these things. We've got to take care of ourselves.
Speaker 2And if you don't have health insurance and you don't have a primary care physician right now, like, these are the life-saving services that Planned Parenthood can provide to you and you can get in there for an appointment for a very low fee. They offer lots of financial support, like they provide vital life-saving care for women. Yep, absolutely.
Speaker 1So go there. My daughter actually went to play parenthood in new york and because she just birth control issues, she wanted to get an iud. She got that then then expelled that which apparently is like can happen um you know, I guess if it, if you have your first period and it comes shooting out, then you're probably not a great candidate for it. So now she's got, she went back to shooting out.
Speaker 2That's a very good one, sorry, g. Thanks for the info.
Speaker 1But she went back in and they gave her like we don't have it in Indiana as far as I know. But she said it's like a hair tie, like this little hair tie thing that just goes, pop it right up in there and it's like ninety, nine percent and what I know.
Speaker 2I just like float around up in your space.
Speaker 1See, we don't have it here, it's all magic we have like frontier medicine in indiana. So I don't know, at best right now, magic medicine and we're allowed to have.
Speaker 2Yeah, so anyway, not dissing my medical care was amazing. Thank goodness for having all of the women that I had. Yeah and there. You know, there may or may not be some people who may or may not be actively advocating against women's health right now. Oh, there are oh there are, without naming names and using threats and intimidation against doctors who provide vital life-saving care, and lawsuits and all the things Yep, yep.
Speaker 1So support those people who support women, and that's great. We do recommend also menopauseorg as a resource. If you are having any issues, you need a provider. You don't have a provider. There is a provider list on that website. Yes, there's so many, so many good resources. If you just have questions of like what the fuck is happening to my body, it is a really good resource, and I think there is a Canadian version yes, that's what I was and a European version.
Speaker 2If you are questioning the validity or the accuracy of resources in the United States, which you should right now Sure yeah.
Due Process and Political Concerns
Speaker 2Because information is getting removed from pages all the time, Although we have no reason to believe that menopauseorg has been affected in that way. There is the British Menopause Society and the National Health Service in the UK has a lot of information up there. Of course you're not going to be able to find providers through there, but they do have accurate information. They have the same thing in Canada. God bless the people in Canada who are quickly saving pages from the CDC as quickly as they are getting pulled down.
Speaker 2So there are places where information is being saved. Yep, there's our activism for the day.
Speaker 1I am so glad for you, though, and for me, because I'd be very sad without you, lady fucking suck, wouldn't it?
Speaker 2it would, and then we would have to talk about do you know what? This podcast would be like with just me. You would be talking, awful, and then it would be like like like where I was gonna fill in, and then you would just sit and you'd be like hi, leslie, leslie pause, uh-huh, uh-huh and then at one point you would like be me, maybe you would like switch seats and you would like be going back and forth. This is a whole pinter play. I think we're writing right now. Who are you waiting?
Speaker 1for, oh my god, I just give myself a marionette.
Speaker 2It's a single person waiting for Godot, but you're like playing yourself and the voice in your brain, which is me. Rabbit holes, Rabbit holes.
Speaker 1I'm telling you, I'm this close to crazy. I can carry on a full conversation with myself, but I'd rather not. Yeah, it's more fun this way.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think so. It's more unexpected. You don't know what's going on in our mouths when we're together.
Speaker 1Nope.
Speaker 2Hey.
Speaker 1Megan yes, ma'am who died this week, well, so Last-.
Speaker 2No, it was this week.
Speaker 1This week, last week, I am trying very hard to stay off of social media and out of the news, so I was surprised to learn that two days ago Mr George Foreman, the boxer, passed away.
Speaker 2But we don't know him as a boxer. We don't really know him as a boxer. I mean, we knew he was a boxer, but we never saw him box.
Speaker 1It wasn't like you know, he just wasn't our generation.
Speaker 2No, yeah. When was George Foreman born? Watch box 49. 1949.
Speaker 1Yeah, so he was pretty much. I suspect he was probably 26 years older than my grandmother or younger than my grandmother, we would have been pretty young when George Foreman was out there beating people up, but us 90s college age kids know him for what Well, you tell me, because I will admit I never owned one, but I know that you skirted some rules.
Speaker 2We did. This should go in the infomercial. Oh my gosh, yeah, in the world of infomercials. Being a college student in the very early 90s we had the invention of the foreman grill and there were.
Speaker 1I'm looking at pictures right now. There were very many there were very many very many variations.
Speaker 2It had just come out so it was like a really small. It could maybe hold two patties okay. So so we would use this thing right. Oh, does this say vintage, Vintage George Foreman grilling machine? This is exactly what I had in my dorm and it had this little plastic drip tray and you could cook a burger on it Now? Did they clean that before they put it up for sale? Yes I mean, but literally, this is what we're talking about, these things.
Speaker 1That's what it looks like clean. That's it there you go they.
Speaker 2so we would skirt many because you weren't allowed to have open flame or open cooking devices in your dorm. But we all know that sometimes you need some snacks, you need a burger. We had microwaves. We could do like mac and cheese. I had a panini machine. Those came out kind of at the same time when was I in college, 91. So we could make little girl cheese sandwiches or, upon occasion, burgers. I don't think it lasted longer than my freshman year because the reality was they were a fucking pain in the ass to clean I mean it looks like it would be.
Speaker 2Yeah, these weird little forks that you had to like push the grease off of and you can't immerse it in water and like grease is going everywhere, like it's disgusting, um, but this is why did it make a good burger. Yeah, I mean, it just cooked things. You know, it's just like an electric grill, so you just close. It Could have been a waffle iron. You probably could have slapped a burger in there too, and it would have worked out okay.
Speaker 1Oh, there you go, it would be the same.
Speaker 2Just, yeah, just flip it over halfway through, but they were. I mean, I think the thing that we most remember about these really were the fucking infomercials I mean, he was cooking everything everything was cooked on a foreman grill.
Speaker 1It's everything. Later they had, like they had stands.
Speaker 2They were like you know you could, oh, like big girls, look at that.
Speaker 1Oh, they're still on amazon you too get a george foreman, good lord grill-y grill Grill.
Speaker 2So then one might wonder why you just don't fucking buy a grill Right At this point, because you love George?
Speaker 1Foreman.
Speaker 2You do. I'm getting myself a George.
Speaker 1Well, and then I think there was this feeling, right or wrong?
Speaker 2Producer Tim is showing us the schematics. I don't need to know any of this information.
Speaker 1The George Foreman grill is 27 and a half inches by.
Speaker 2How does this one work? I don't know why Wasn't there?
Speaker 1like this feeling, though, that it was healthier. That was how it was sold.
Speaker 2But they would just kind of tilt it and so the grease just slides off, Like okay. I mean, the same thing happens when you're grilling the grease drips down into your grill.
Speaker 1But whatever your bratwurst is still going to be fat filled, absolutely.
Speaker 2Nitrites and nitrates.
Speaker 1It's filled with cancer, you're still going to die. Eat it, but look they throw some asparagus on there and everything, some onions and carrots, throw it in there. It's delicious, it's so good.
Speaker 2Apartment approved my it's a good fucking thing. Oh, I guess that's true. Yeah, if you got like a little balcony, okay, george, I'll give you that RIP. I hope your estate makes money forever. I hope so. On the girls.
Speaker 1I think George Foreman had lots of children. Am I making that up? No, I think you're right. So maybe they're going to live off of the millions and billions of dollars that, george Foreman, how many? Twelve oh?
Speaker 2that's pretty good. I said ten.
Speaker 1I just found that knowledge in the back of my brain that he had lots of kids.
Speaker 2Does he have a lot of kids?
Speaker 1Wow, okay, I can't remember what I had for dinner.
Speaker 2They're all lovely. Look at them.
Speaker 1Well, they're rolling in.
Speaker 2George Foreman real money. We don't know that for sure. Well, we don't. We don't know what they got, but they are all lovely.
Speaker 1So that's who died this week. Well, I think that's sad and he has many, many children and hopefully they will all live well off of the George Foreman grill and many other things, his, his whole legacy, legacy, yeah.
Speaker 2We don't have a good conclusion to this it was mostly just about the girls and he died and I was like man, that is there. Gen.
Speaker 1X women are sick of the shit is supported by Lylas Love you Like a sis, a Gen X women's social club. What's Lylas, Megan? Lylas is our off platform off the books of faces, off all of the other traditional social media. It is our space and place for Gen X women to come together, have conversations, meet each other. It's a social club.
Speaker 2It is a social club. It's a membership-based club. Memberships are $10 a month. That does help support us in growing the platform. We purchased a platform that would host a network of women so that you could come together and meet each other in real time.
Speaker 1In a safer space than a traditional social media platform and a much more personal space. So what do we do there, Leslie we?
Speaker 2host movie nights where we live stream some of our favorites as they are available to us for group watches of films from the 70s, 80s and 90s. We host a space for a monthly book club. We host trivia nights once a month we have a live text chat prizes even four prizes.
Speaker 2That's true, um, we, the space, is able to host like weekly text chats so that you can kind of check in in real time with people. I would say the critical difference between kind of what this space is and any other social media space that I've experienced is that it is active.
Speaker 1You will have to engage in it or be engaged in it by other people, so it's not like a passive consumption thing, it's like making connections, yep, and if that's what you're looking for the opportunity to meet other people, to find people who are maybe in the same similar spaces as you are.
Speaker 2Like-minded, same time phase of life, navigating all of those transitions.
Speaker 1Then, this might be the right place for you, so check out Lylas. You can learn more about it at genxwomen podcom.
Speaker 2So, before we talk about fun certainly yes, let's talk about shit that we are sick of. Oh, the list keeps growing. The list is growing moment by moment, mentally.
Speaker 1Day to day, every time I turn on the TV or, hour by hour, read the New York Times or God forbid, look at social media. Leslie, you know what I'm sick of? Tell me what you're sick of today, megan. I am so sick of the fact that now, apparently, due process is something that we're just not going to do anymore.
Speaker 2It does not exist. Don't need it. Good luck. Don't need it. Don't get searched at an airport.
Speaker 1Be careful at the airports. Apparently, due process isn't a thing anymore, where there was a gentleman who was a soccer player from Venezuela, who left Venezuela because he literally was being tortured by their government, comes to the US, gets registered for asylum the right way, the right way, the right way. Uh, he then gets um. The alien enemies act means that somebody can come into his house, the fbi and or and or. They can come to your house without a warrant. Yeah, they think that you are an alien enemy which is not like aliens like you know it's not that kind of alien they can go to your house.
Speaker 1They can yank you out of your house. They can send you to an el salvadorian prison, yes, without ever going to see a judge. Yeah, prove that. That is, in fact, who the heck you are like. You are really a criminal so this guy they claim that he is a member of a of a venezuelan gang. He is not. He is a soccer player.
Speaker 1He has a tattoo that they claim is a, a tattoo that you would have as a member of this gang. It is not. The tattoo artist has signed an affidavit saying that no, it's a soccer tattoo, dude Right. And he's now in a El Salvadorian prison and no one knows how to get him out. No one knows anything Like he, just he's been disappeared. And this is where we are.
Speaker 1This is where we are right now, and it makes me so furious because, if we've done away with due process, there is literally nothing protecting anybody who is an American citizen.
Speaker 2Absolutely not.
Speaker 1I mean not that that means that anybody else should have to go through that either. It just means like when the gloves are off, man, the gloves are off.
Speaker 2So, here, we are and don't say anything disparaging about the current administration I'm starting to get worried about that if you are traveling, no shit airlines and they choose to inspect your devices you have to get a burner phone.
Speaker 1so to go overseas, seriously, yeah, that's where we are anyway. I don, I don't want to harp on it, it's just something I'm really fucking sick of. This is just getting worse and worse and I don't know what we do. I don't know what happens. Keep talking about it. We keep talking about it until they.
Breakfast Cereals of the 80s
Speaker 2Dear listeners, if we're not here one week, if we ever have to miss an episode, we will announce it Please.
Speaker 1Yeah, right, please find us in the El Salvadorian prison or the.
Speaker 2ADHD camp that we'll be. Yeah on the organic farm. On that note, anyway, that was a bummer, sorry. It's important. We need to keep talking about it.
Speaker 1Similar to talking about like things on a local level, like where the truth isn't the truth anymore and facts can be sort of invented and things can be selectively shared by someone who lives in our city, who is an influencer, who set up the bartender, she and her friends came into the bar.
Speaker 2They misgendered the bartender, they misgendered a couple of other people.
Speaker 1Yep, they said some really shitty, nasty things and were told to leave. And then she came back with her little maga hat on and filmed, filmed everything and was then asked to leave again because.
Speaker 2And then selectively shared right and selectively shared that part, as if to generate outrage and to get attention. Uh, for, and her business, which is no longer available on the Internet as of this moment, and, of course, indianapolis being the fantastic place that it is, has rallied around that bar.
Speaker 1Especially that Mass Avenue area. They put out a statement. It was lovely to see that it was awesome.
Speaker 2And we were down there on Mass Ave yesterday hanging out and it's the same welcoming place. Yeah, it has always been, as long as you're not an asshole.
Speaker 1Yeah, don't be an asshole, don't be an asshole.
Speaker 2That's the key Like we don't give a shit and you have to, like, make an effort to be an asshole.
Speaker 1You really do, because it's not like I swear if that person would have just walked in the first time with a dumb hat, like that, I mean they.
Speaker 2I mean you would have probably gotten some looks, because there would be sort of a curiosity about like why you realize we have trans flags and you know all the rainbows everywhere. Yes, like why would questions, but you're not going to be told to not be there, correct, correct?
Speaker 1you had to create that environment yourself and they did this is happening more and more and we just have to stand by each other and and be the best allies that we can for everybody. Fuck yeah, sister, so huh shall we talk about? Let's talk about something more fun, shall we?
Speaker 2Breakfast cereals of the 80s.
Speaker 1We're going to escape back to the 80s and breakfast in the 80s. So we do this is the worst transition ever.
Speaker 2It is really bad Basically. Here's the transition. I ate breakfast right before you got here and I had some cereal and I walked in and I said what if we talk about breakfast cereals of the 80s?
Speaker 1And I said fuck yeah, because I love cereal.
Speaker 2I was like sweet, and then we looked up cereals and then we had conversations about cereals.
Speaker 1So what was so funny about freaking cereals in the 80s is, holy shit. Every brand, every TV show, every cartoon, every superhero, every whatever had a freaking cereal named after them. Yes, Like there was Mr T cereal, yes absolutely.
Speaker 2That's all you need to know, so is Mr T cereal. We go way back. Like I'm a little bit curious. I'm certain there's a website somewhere about the history of cereal like, the development of dry cereals and cereals that are eaten with milk and the transition from like the 70s to the commercialism of the 80s, which we have talked about before. Like, when was the first like bed sheet with a character? Printed on it it was probably like Cowboys or Howdy Doody or something like that.
Speaker 2But my early memories of eating cereal as a child, like we were a like raisin bran family I fucking love the fuck out of raisins. So I think I was made to eat healthy cereals, but because I loved raisins, I was like all about it.
Speaker 1Did you ever put a little bit of extra sugar on raisin bran?
Speaker 2I didn't. Okay, I would dump extra raisins in my raisin.
Speaker 1Okay, well, the raisins are sweet, they are sweet, so that works.
Speaker 2I think that that was some of it. I didn't extra sweeten it, but it launched from there. Yeah, I mean, this was not the other cereals that I remember from my childhood but that I didn't like were Wheaties. Oh, yeah, but the Wheaties were popular because they would just put there was like the athlete of the month or whatever that would be on the box of the michael jordans and the yeah absolutely uh mary lou retton was a wheaties girl, I think.
Speaker 2Right, yeah yes, we were talking about whether or not oj simpson was on a wheaties box.
Speaker 1Probably, probably there we go, don't know, probably p.
Speaker 2Probably Pete Rose, I'm certain was on a Wheaties box.
Speaker 1Yeah, 100% yeah.
Speaker 2So maybe at some point they decided to stop doing that.
Speaker 1We should probably look a little closer at some of these people before we start putting them on boxes, because you don't know, Like who knew what's going to? Happen. Oh, serena Williams, venus and Serena.
Speaker 2Look at that, there's Mary Lou. Oh good, okay, so is this still a thing that they still put athletes on? I mean they must right these boxes even in the 2020s. Oh, simone Biles, what? There you go. Also tells you how long it's been box man, that was awesome look, michael Jordan, it function has not really changed in design.
Speaker 1No, that logo is exactly the same, isn't?
Speaker 2it.
Speaker 1Oh, bruce Jenner Bless Fun.
Speaker 2That's a whole other.
Speaker 1Billie.
Speaker 2Jean King Fuck, yeah, yeah, wheaties.
Speaker 1Amazing, it is wild, that logo hasn't changed at all.
Speaker 2Wait, wait, go down to the boxer, is that?
Speaker 1Oh, that one's Mike Tyson, mike Tyson.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1I like that you can get on a weedy's box, download the just the weedy's logo and create your own if you wanted to.
Speaker 2That's awesome. We should make a weedy's box with our faces on it. So talk about a cereal that was iconic, but like we never fucking ate that yeah I never ate weedy's I never ate life.
Speaker 1I don't care how many times somebody said mikey liked it. I was like I don't even know what this is, but I'm not eating it.
Speaker 2But when you say that Life cereal, I know exactly what that box looks like.
Speaker 1You sure do, and you can picture the commercial.
Speaker 2Yes, so great marketing Way to go. Too bad, that was one of the Mikey's gone. Oh, Kroger still exists.
Speaker 1One of the by Quaker, biggest advertising campaigns of all time, really Most successful advertising campaigns of all time.
Speaker 2I wonder, why Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1Because you and I are still sitting here on a sofa. Talking about it, 40 years later, talking about it.
Speaker 2So then we looked at, like this giant picture of all of the different cereal boxes in the world. I think this in the United States in the 1980s.
Speaker 1So the cereal thing, like it, started with oatmeal, right Like oatmeal and like whoa Okay Shit, what was it? There was one that was like like a malted choco malt oh fucking cocoa wheats Well no, this was like like a malted choco malt, something fucking cocoa wheats well no, this was like a.
Speaker 2Well maybe is it. Cocoa wheat was like I grew up eating the shit out of cocoa? Yes, it was a hot cereal. My mom, to make it palatable, would put a scoop of vanilla ice cream in the middle oh, that sounds nutritious so good Because, like cocoa eats was really, it was like almost molten, like you couldn't really if you cooked it the appropriate amount of time. It was like eating lava. So in order to get it cooled fast enough to eat before we, went to school, Leslie.
Speaker 2It's time for cocoa lava Pretty much she would like put some ice cream in it and then it added like a little bit of vanilla flavor and it would cool it down and I would be eating it in the car on my way to school. Okay, all right, that was delicious.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think that was early. That was like you know, that stuff's been around for ages. That was in the late 70s, I remember, so I was probably 6, 7, 8 when I was eating that, but I bet you like that cereal is even older.
Speaker 2I think that is like a cocoa wheat, because it's like cream of wheat cereal. Cocoa wheat's hot cereal. Yeah, this was what I would eat. Yeah, and that logo has been around forever too Since 1930, post cocoa wheat's has been the creamy hot cereal of choice, enriched with five vitamins iron, and with no added salt or sugar. No added salt or sugar, if y'all want to hire me to do some voice work for you. I'm happy to do so. It's delicious Cocoa Weets. It's delicious. It is delicious. I love that stuff.
Speaker 1So that's been around for a blooming long time.
Speaker 2And it kind of comes out of like I think of that as like porridge Right Right, yeah, old timey, old timey, old timey cereal.
Speaker 1Old timey cereal. We had in Indianapolis. I don't know that we still. I don't know that it's still around, but there was two or there was one big cereal factory that's over by tell me this this feels like a like. I'm totally not making this up, I swear um, but they're like it's over by iupui or india, indiana indiana university at indianapolis is what it is now but it's on the other side of from where we?
Speaker 1are yes, and it's on the west side big like metal, you know silos or whatever, and you would drive past it and it would smell like cooking cereal, like they were like cooking whatever okay, um, I know please look it up hand google.
Speaker 2Okay, there was. There was Ciroline Manufacturing Company with India. Oh, interesting, it's on the state website. We're way off y'all, I'm so sorry. Fascinating Ciroline Manufacturing Company. In the late 1800s, railroads and new technology opened national markets to Midwest producers, including Indiana. A leader in corn products, joseph Ghent, patented operations and devices to mass-produce flaked corn. Gaff Ghent and Thomas Co began making cerealine flakes here circa 1880, a precursor to cold breakfast cereal. It was also used as a malt alternative by brewers.
Speaker 1Kingmaker Foods is also in Indianapolis. They're up in Zionsville, so they make cereal.
Speaker 2Evidently there's a reason why we're talking about cereal. There's a long history we can't get away from it in.
Speaker 1Indianapolis. We can't get away from it. So okay, as a kid. So you were eating cocoa wheats. Yes, what was your?
Speaker 2So you can tell we were a little granola Like. It was like raisin bran and cocoa wheats.
Speaker 1You were a little crunchy crunchy, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2But then my brother came along.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2And then my mother had two children. All that went out the window because we had the invention of cinnamon toast crunch.
Speaker 1Okay, which is that the one that will cut your face open uh, I don't know we can or is that the?
Speaker 2who also has a fetish for cinnamon toast crunch. He loves it so much, or?
Speaker 1captain, maybe it's captain crunch was the one that supposedly has a reputation for like, like cutting the inside of your cheeks probably.
Speaker 2So chime in. Let us know, I did eat the shit out of some apple jacks. I think that was the sweetest cereal I have a oh God, Golden Grahams, Sorry my bad.
Speaker 1I have a box of Apple Jacks in my cupboard right now.
Speaker 2Do you really? I do, and I just saw.
Speaker 1Sugar Crisps. Go by with the super sugar crisps with the little bear.
Speaker 2I see that up there.
Speaker 1Those were fun. Those look like little oats. For sure, for sure, they were super sweet, but they were really yummy, super sugar crisp by post.
Speaker 2I like that that's amazing.
Speaker 1Mine, the one that I miss right now that I I actually went looking for to see like please tell me this still exists is alphabets. Do you remember alphabets? I do so. That was a post cereal as well. Okay, gone, like you can't get it anymore, but I'm like I had a hunker. A hunker or a craving I was hankering for a hunk of alphabets.
Speaker 2So that's it, though like hankering for a hunk of cheese, was that? Cheese yeah, and then the little piece of cheese.
Speaker 1If we're gonna talk about after school specials, that we should probably talk, that's the truth.
Speaker 2I think that was the same. Oh, okay, there's one. Do you remember Cookie Crisp.
Speaker 1Yes, yes.
Speaker 2They look like little chocolate chip cookies right. That was there and there were like tons of cartoons. We talked about this on the Christmas episode with, like the Pac-Man Christmas, like everybody had a Christmas show in the 80s.
Speaker 1Everybody has a cereal.
Speaker 2So there's Pac-Man, batman, smurfs, the C-3PO's, the C-3PO's.
Speaker 1Which is actually pretty clever. Did you like Trix? Uh, the one with the rabbit.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, tricks for kids. We didn't have it, but I do remember that, and tricks are for kids, yep.
Speaker 1We ate so many tricks.
Speaker 2There were people that had lots and lots of feelings about the monster cereals like the Boo Berry and the. Count Chocula and the Frankenberry. Those went away for a while and then were brought back early 2000s Like for Halloween right. Just a seasonal kind of cereal thing that would come out.
Speaker 1There's a Donkey Kong cereal Rainbow Brite cereal I didn't have those A Gremlin cereal.
Speaker 2Did you ever eat that?
Speaker 1No, indiana Jones cereal. Really I can't imagine that. Look at that.
Speaker 2Look, Harrison Ford's throwing a whip at you on that cereal box. He's like, so Whip it.
Speaker 1We wonder why we're into like romanticine novels.
Speaker 2now, as adults, you have a lusty Harrison Ford with a whip on the front of your breakfast cereal box.
Speaker 1It's only one step away from erotica.
Speaker 2Basically, you just read the back of that shit.
Speaker 1you're like fetishes that are my, eat my that and the indiana cereal explains a lot.
Speaker 2Oh, here we go so yeah, so inside your cereal cereal toys.
Speaker 1Cereal toys were so fun, like the crap that was in the box yes um, the wacky wall walkers that, oh yeah, I remember that, those little, and they came in all kinds of different colors and they were little like octopusy guys, right, uh-huh, with all their little tentacles and they stuck to things.
Speaker 2They were really gooey and supposedly you would like they would climb down your walls, but if you were a real asshole as a child, you would throw it and stick it to your ceiling, from whence it would never come down. And when it did, when you moved out of your house 35 years later and somebody finally had to tear that petrified thing down Eating their cereal, minding their own business, and it splashes into their bowl. It left the nastiest dark, greasy spot on your ceiling or walls.
Speaker 1It's very specific, I do remember getting in a little bit of trouble for throwing a wacky wall walker at a wall.
Speaker 2I mean, that's what they're for.
Speaker 1The backs of the cereal boxes were always kind of fun too. Some of them would have puzzles and things like that.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1I remember you could send away for glasses, oh sure, like juice glasses. So many things With, like, your proofs of purchase.
Speaker 2Just saying yes, I've eaten five boxes of your incredibly fortified sugary corn syrup.
Speaker 1I almost still have my teeth.
Speaker 2Look, you could get a free ET storybook album offer. The disappointing thing, I think, through the 80s, is that I as a child was very aware that the toys were getting shittier and shittier, so that by the time there was anything in the box like in high school even we'd gone to like pure junk. It's the same thing like the toys that used to be in happy meals.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't think there's anything good in boxes of cereal anymore. Is there? I don't think there is. I have no idea. It was also like a way for jack's thing, like you could get stuff out of cracker jack's boxes.
Speaker 2They're actually like were good things in there. I mean, you know, if you're 10, it was an amazing toy right but they just kept getting worse and worse. Same thing with happy meal toys. Yes, I still get happy meals. Yes, they still have toys in them, but they're often just like kind of cardboard yeah, not, not what they used to, be for sure not at all. Do you look at? All those toys I know so like found a good picture of them. Oh, is that like a? There's a license plate for your bike.
Speaker 1It looks like that's a. There's a CD Parachute, guy A record.
Speaker 2Oh gosh, I remember those Little plastic dude with parachute. There is a whole day of fun happening with Parachute Guy.
Speaker 1You were going to throw that thing into the air Until he gets stuck in a tree 45 million times. Everything is great.
Speaker 2Parachute Guy, and then they used to have the. It'd be like the helicopter spinner thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, the sticks yeah. You could really entertain us with some basic science Tiny little piece of plastic and a plastic. Oh yeah, oh, spoons Very good kind of plastic. Oh yeah, oh, spoons very good.
Speaker 2Yep, get your own cereal spoon in your box. There are so many, they're amazing. There was nerd cereal look, oh good there were actual stuffies in there, stuffies, cabbage, patch, kid cereal. It goes on and on and on. Do you remember?
Speaker 1the uh, the little. They still make them, but those little boxes, the variety packs, so you could try like different types of cereal.
Speaker 2Yes, I always thought you were like the coolest family if you had those at your house. I functionally understand why my mother did not buy those, because they were insanely expensive, but I was like if we were cool, we had them.
Speaker 1We would have that, so my grandmother always had them.
Speaker 2And what was?
Speaker 1cool is you? Well, the coolest part of it was you turn the box on its side or on its back right, and then it had a perforation on the box, on the top of the box, and you could open that. And then you just open the paper inside and you pour your milk directly into the box. What?
Speaker 2Was it like wax? Like the paper was waxed?
Speaker 1Yep, I didn't know that I don't know if they still do that, but that was yeah and it was on purpose.
Speaker 2It wasn't like a thing that got discovered.
Speaker 1You just like pop that little bad boy open and have your cereal on the go. I would have felt like the coolest human ever if I had been able to eat my cereal out of the tiny cereal box.
Cereal Toys and Marketing Nostalgia
Speaker 2That would have been awesome. Yeah, I have to check and see if those actually still are usable that way. But oh, there's old school count chocula box.
Speaker 1Yep, they've updated that art a little bit you know somebody somewhere out there has that tattoo they should, I mean maybe somebody's got chocolate why?
Speaker 2not. You should have that there we go um rice krispies yes, rice krispies treats did you make rice krispies? Yes, yeah those were really good, agreed. Uh, any other cereal based treats? I think that there were things that you could make out of fruit loops, sort of in the similar I haveops.
Speaker 1I have a box of Lucky Charms in my cabinet too and there's a recipe on the back of that to make a Lucky Charms Rice Krispie treat thing Amazing With the marshmallow stuff.
Speaker 2I think too, these cereals that we're talking about right now are in the same era as some of the microwavable breakfast foods. Yeah, we talked about like MicroMagic. I think there was also like a French toast stick kind of version. Oh, absolutely and like a pancake that you could do and there was like microwavable eggs in a box. It was gross.
Speaker 1Yeah, I remember the French toast sticks, because then it came with like a little dipping sauce of like maple syrup, maple quotation finger maple Not really maple, Maple flavored corn syrup Delicious, delicious, delicious corn syrup. But yeah, so I remember that. And then you ate. I remember you saying that you ate those pastries, like those frozen.
Speaker 2Fucking toaster strudels. Toaster strudelaster strudel my, it was one of my grandmother's favorite food groups. Should we always my children know about toaster strudels because they lived with my grandmother? We all lived together for the last like 15 years and she loved those things and so my kids learned like toaster strudel and you get the little plastic packet of frosting that goes on. So, they were little like babies, you know, one, two, three years old, and that was like a treat with.
Speaker 1Grandma Jean, that's awesome.
Speaker 2And so they know we always have toaster strudels in our freezer, Because every once in a while you're just like yep, small snack.
Speaker 1We always had Eggos. We always had Eggo waffles.
Speaker 2Oh, you're just like yep you small, we always had eggos.
Speaker 1We always had. Oh, of course, yeah, frozen waffles always had. So good, we had um aunt jemima, um, uh, shit, uh, french toast, oh, frozen like frozen french toast and you would put it in the. You would put it in the toaster the same way that you do, like toaster, strudel or whatever, okay, and then get it out and then put a little bit of butter on it, and then my mom always put cinnamon and sugar on top. So this is why I'm Okay.
Speaker 1This is why I weigh what I weigh. But here we are. But that was always delicious. I always liked that too. That was one of our favorites. And you always put a little bit too much butter, so that the cinnamon and sugar just sort of melts in there that sounds amazing, delicious, well, and just making like basic cinnamon toast just like toast, you know, buttered cinnamon sugar on top, yeah, that was like a whole situation.
Speaker 2Yeah, hot pockets that a breakfast food frosted flakes were one of my favorites too oh, so they had to have bananas on it.
Speaker 1You had to put bananas on your frosted flakes wow like banana breakfast was so influential.
Speaker 1There was lots, there were so many options and I wonder, like why and when that happened, like what was it? Was it because yes. Our moms were now like having to go out and be in the world and do jobs and you know they weren't sitting at home, being able to make us like bacon and eggs and all that stuff. Right, they were on the go and they were like an explosion of single moms that were out there doing all the things For sure and life generally was like busier.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, just there were after school, the beginning, I think, of kind of like after school activities. Yeah, there was the beginning of like. I know I was a soccer player for a little bit, I was no great athlete. By any means You're not going gonna be on the weenies box, but there were kids who were like better at it. So the beginnings of like more practices for stuff and just more mental load in general for the home parent yeah, and so the marketing then was like hey, we see an opportunity.
Speaker 2Your kids love these cartoons and all this just high fructose corn syrup. We're gonna get them a cereal that they'll eat easily in the morning. Here you go. You love pac-man, you're gonna love pac-man cereal, and sure it's a convenience thing and you can give your kids a hot breakfast. I was was looking at the great starts. Oh my God, which was like bacon eggs and potatoes all in a microwavable dish.
Speaker 1You know that that did not. I'm sorry. Microwavable eggs you just lost me altogether.
Speaker 2Should not do that.
Speaker 1But you can. I am not on board with this at all.
Speaker 2Eat it along with drinking your tab in the morning One of my mother's favorite beverages Tab.
Speaker 1Tab and Diet Pepsi.
Speaker 2Oh my God, so many things we could go down many rabbit holes All the competitions, the food contests that they would have, where you had to collect all the things to win the prize, to do this yes, we all know it was a scam. It was totally a scam. I don't know how much more we have to say about probably not cereals of the 80s. Tell us your stories. What was your favorite cereal growing?
Speaker 1up.
Speaker 2Oh my God, yes please, Do you remember a bizarre breakfast food that we can no longer find on the shelves? Is there something in your memory banks that the rest of the world needs to know about? Oh, corn pops. I just noticed because of the hat. Oh god, corn pops, you are so good. They aren't even hiding it too. They're called sugar corn pops.
Speaker 1I know we're going to say the inside part on the outside oh yeah, You'll die, but it's delicious it's so good, so good.
Speaker 2You're gonna love it, I. I do think it's funny that we've ignored the king vitamin box. I'm not looking at anything that's like it's really disturbing.
Speaker 1Here's the thing, oh, wait vitamin I would have ignored that on the shelf too because who wants that? I'm not eating king vitamin number one.
Speaker 2He's vitamin man and he's an old guy. What sort of like bizarre. Why great? Who said you know what the kitties love old?
Speaker 1men, ew, and it's a Quaker oat product, oh bad.
Speaker 2That's a terrible marketing decision. Boo, I did read, there's always more to say about cereal that with millennials the cereal had declined in terms of cereal consumption had declined.
Speaker 1My Gen Z is all about it she'll.
Speaker 2So I'm wondering if that's changing, because I think our household single-handedly kept cinnamon toast crunch in business for many years.
Speaker 1Uh my, my, no milk. My daughter can put away some coco krispies like nobody's business right on.
Speaker 2So I'm curious if that's still true, if there was just like a brief downturn, because, quite honestly, if you are a busy family or a busy person in any way, shape or form, you can eat a bowl of cereal and under three minutes flat and get the hell out the door I'm gonna blame millennials for killing off alphabets, then the whole generation.
Speaker 1You're all fucking dead to me any millennials listening to this show.
Speaker 2I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1We still care about you. Please keep listening. You fucking killed off alphabets.
Speaker 2This is how myths get born and it's true, forever. Oh, I don't blame you really. It's fine, they'll fight back, maybe.
Speaker 1We'll see. You're just smarter, Send the comments. You're like you're just smarter and you just ate.
Speaker 2Better than we did, that's all yeah, I mean maybe, maybe, but you missed out by not having alphabets. You did all right. We both said that at the same time. I don't think we're gonna get to uh, school-astic book fairs no we'll have to do that another day, but we can talk all about that and the glory of getting sent to school with your own money, in fact.
Speaker 1I would say people should talk about their favorite books, Like we would love to know. Like mention your favorite Scholastic Fair memories? Yeah, that would be cool so that we can share them. That'd be fun.
Speaker 2In that same vein, like there were other like sort of market opportunities for children where you get sent to school with your own money and you can buy things. They were often centered around very like US centric gendered holidays. Like there might be one for Mother's Day, there would be a Christmas one. It didn't matter if you went to school with people who didn't celebrate Christmas, everybody went to the Christmas market. Who didn't celebrate Christmas, everybody went to the Christmas market.
Speaker 1So these like opportunities as young children to like go and spend money and make your own choices and manage your dollars At.
Speaker 2Scholastic Book Fair, though Pick out. It was very special, yeah, very special.
Speaker 1Well, we'll talk about it Awesome. In the meantime, yes, have a fantastic next week you too, sister. I hope it's great. Have a fantastic next week, you too, sister.
Closing and Where to Find Us
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