Ep 34 l USA Olympian w/ CTE Treatment: Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber

Concussions, TBI, Brain Injury, Athletes, Veterans 

CTE is something that negatively effects the daily life of millions, but we are just barely beginning to talk about; Former team USA Olympic bobsledder, William Person @OneManWithAChamber, is leading the conversation, seeking to help all victims - but he needs our help. 

William has a new purpose, more fulfilling than what bobsledding ever gave him: to make this neurological disease known and bring others the correct treatment they’ve been missing. William seeks to open a hyperbaric oxygen chamber to all victims of CTE, which primarily affects athletes, veterans, and victims of domestic violence. He has the chamber, he has the land, he has the military on board - he just needs funding. The GoFundMe is located at the bottom of the show notes. 

CTE is the result of a mild to moderate head trauma, usually not displaying until years after the trauma has been sustained (William says 10 years is the magic number). CTE is not possible to formally diagnose until death, when the brain can be dissected. Because of the late onset of symptoms & the barrier to diagnosis, it is often misdiagnosed or entirely missed, and the incorrect treatment is offered. 

Symptoms of CTE include severe depression, tremendous head pain like vertigo & migraines, amnesia, noise sensitivity, problems with vision, impulsive spending & choices, and, as William describes, living in a fog or endless loop.

All of this changed when William randomly discovered the hyperbaric oxygen chamber (he credits Joe Nameth & Pavle Jovanovic for this). Just an hour in the chamber restored color to William’s vision, brought back the taken for granted gift of mental clarity, and even dramatically improved William’s memory.

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Donate at the GoFundMe:

https://gofund.me/93ff9c6e

William is also looking for partners now, so get in contact with him if you are eager to partner or invest. 

https://www.instagram.com/one_man_with_a_chamber/

https://www.tiktok.com/@hyperbarichealing

Head over to the military’s treatment website if you’re still not convinced:

https://treatnow.org

New York Times article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/26/sports/olympics/olympics-bobsled-suicide-brain-injuries.html

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Transcript

The media’s been fine to me. I’ve made these wild claims about the military—Kanye—and they’re so specific. They can take it and rip me apart easily. But I told them: misdiagnosed. I said what happened to him, when, why, and how. It’s just… you can’t argue with the facts.

Wild. You screamed about Kanye. No one listened to you. And now this article comes out and they’re all crawling back. And you’re like, “Well, well, well… I’m not crazy. I just collected the data and lived experiences.”

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Welcome to Gabriella Rebranded: Win Most, Lose Some.

All right, guys. Today we have a really important episode that is actually a re-record because there was an issue with tech. But today we have a really important episode.

My guest here today is William Person, a former Olympic bobsledder on Team USA for nine years. But where that left William was with debilitating CTE—which I’m not even going to try to pronounce. Could you say it?

Let me see if I can do it today. Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

You did it! It’s a good day for you.

Yeah—CTE. Brain injuries. We struggle with pronunciation of complicated words.

But CTE has recently become a big buzzword in the world of athletics—specifically concussions. And unfortunately, a lot of athletes suffer from CTE.

William was in immense pain. You were suicidal. You were extremely depressed. You didn’t even have clarity to your vision. You did not want to go on.

But then you discovered a hyperbaric oxygen chamber. And the hyperbaric oxygen chamber sort of reset everything and brought you back to as close to functioning as you could possibly be with a brain injury.

It’s absolutely incredible.

Today, William is here to talk about the effects of the hyperbaric oxygen chamber. There will be a link to the GoFundMe in the show notes, because William is actually on a mission to start his own rehab center for people with head injuries—free of cost—and give them access to the hyperbaric chamber.

With that, let’s hear from you, William.

Yeah. By the way—you talk about depression. I had no idea I was depressed. No idea.

But I was praying for death every day. That was my routine: praying for death. Wake up, figure out what day it is, what month it is, how old I really am. I thought I was 28 when I was 40.

And then I was just praying for death.

But I was a counselor at one point, and so I didn’t want to leave that trauma on my family.

Okay. So… yeah.

Yeah—so you say… I remember, because we’ve already recorded this, that your family is what sustained you through the worst of the worst. The thought of leaving trauma on them.

But I was like most athletes—we live on our own. We’re away from the family. And so my family didn’t see me falling apart.

I’m trying to explain it to them, but when you tell somebody, “Hey, I think I’m having problems with my memory. I go in the room and I forget what I go in there for,” most people are like, “Oh, I do that too.” So they’ll just kind of…

Yeah. I get that.

Yeah—they’ll be like, “Oh, nothing really wrong with you.” Because, you know, they’re used to us being the superheroes. I’m 220, 6’1”, ripped to shreds. And so they think you’re always going to be that superhero. So they don’t really understand what’s going on.

But if you watch these NFL players taking their life week by week, it’s just… you know, it’s the same stuff over and over.

And CTE results from multiple head trauma.

So basically multiple concussions.

Absolutely not true.

Oh—not true.

No. And I only noticed because of the journey.

I met this housewife one time and she was frustrated with her doctors because they couldn’t figure out what was wrong with her. And she told me her symptoms, and I was like, “Oh—you were an athlete. You had concussions, huh?”

She was like, “No.”

And I know there’s a whole ton of women out here now—and men—who are domestic violence victims. They’re testing…

Yeah. This is not limited to athletes. There are so many people. Domestic violence is causing CTE. Veterans, yeah.

Yeah. And so I asked her, I said, “Hey, was your husband violent?”

She says, “No.”

And we talked for a little while, and then eventually—right before we parted—she told me, “Oh, I remember one time I was snowboarding with my son.” And she said, “I fell backwards and my arm seized up.”

I was like, “Bingo. That’s the problem.”

First of all, you didn’t tell your doctor about that. Even if you did, they can’t find that.

They can’t—yeah.

Yeah. They can’t find it.

Can’t they not see if you have CTE until after you die?

Yeah—when they dissect the brain. And they look at the brain, yeah.

But there’s ways of seeing it.

Like, I diagnosed Kanye West.

Yeah, you did. You told me.

Yes—like a few days before, when we recorded the first time, you told me that Kanye West seems like he has a TBI—head trauma—because he was in a car accident right before he got really famous.

And sure enough, a few days later after he said that to me, an article came out that Kanye had a severe TBI—or not severe, because he didn’t have brain surgery—but a moderate TBI that was undiagnosed. So he never sought treatment for it and he never had meds or anything like that.

Well, yeah. And I posted that thing six months ago—before we…

Before we—yeah, you posted that you called Kanye West.

Yeah. And then it came out.

Yeah. So now the media—I was on British live TV and all this stuff—but they’ve been calling me. Now they’re trying to find out: how is this guy figuring it out?

Because what CTE really is—like, I’m going to give you the bombshell here: boom. Last time we spoke, I still hadn’t connected all the dots.

But it’s in all of us. Anybody who’s ever hit their head—it’s really… you have a ten-year ticking time bomb. That’s how my formula works. I have a formula that I apply, and it’s so accurate that it’s scary.

Once you get the right hit, you’ve got ten years. You’re going to have symptoms in between that time, but it’s going to be manageable. You’re just going to minimize it—just like most of us did.

When you get to that ten-year period, something’s going to be really wrong. You’re going to know something’s wrong. But that next four to six years, you’re going to become either suicidal or homicidal.

And that’s what this is.

And so the same way I diagnosed Kanye, I did the same thing with the military. I did the unthinkable. I posted. I said, “You guys are wrong.” PTSD is real—don’t get me wrong—but underneath that PTSD, what’s really going on is CTE, because I follow the symptoms.

And I was like, “They’re going to be really mad at me for this one.”

But the veteran group TreatNow.org found me, and they were like, “Will, you’re 100% right. Can you help us?”

And so what we’ve been doing is: we go state to state changing legislation so veterans in that state can get the hyperbaric oxygen treatment they need.

So we’ve got 13 states right now.

Okay.

And it’s such a simple treatment—to reverse it.

For me, it was one hour in the chamber. I could see colors again. It’s really that quick and that simple.

30 days maximum. If you’re going to get better, you’re going to get better in 30 days.

I don’t take any meds.

Oh, really?

Absolutely none. I’m as clear as I’m probably ever going to be. I still got a couple little glitches. If you give me three questions, I’m probably going to answer half of one of them. If you give it to me all at once, my brain still processes a little slower.

Yeah.

But this thing is really… this is a plague of our lifetime.

I need to get myself in one.

You know, most diseases that make us sick—what is it? Inflammation diseases.

Well, actually—he does a lot of things. He’s a chiropractor. He’s a physical therapist. But he came on this podcast in season one, episode five: Dr. Jackson Bates. Amazing episode.

How do you get a memory like that? You just said season one episode… you’re doing pretty good.

For my podcast, yes. But he’s incredible. And he… he has a hyperbaric oxygen chamber that he bought for a relative. And he wants to open sort of like a studio in Los Angeles that’s kind of like a fitness and wellness studio and offers treatment like that. And he’ll have the hyperbaric oxygen chamber in it.

So he told me, he was like, “When I start doing that, you can use it.”

And I was like, “Yes.”

I’ve got one just on the other side of the Valley if you ever want to use one.

Thank you very much. Thank you. The invite.

I need one.

Yeah.

Might be in touch.

But just for the listeners, can you explain a little bit what CTE is?

Well… CTE is—well, I think the medical community has it wrong.

Yeah?

For me—following the symptoms—and I’m not here to be arrogant. I’ve just had to live it. And I was on the ground praying for death, and I found my way back.

What it is: it’s like any injury you ever get in your body. You get swelling. You get inflammation. And so for 72 hours, you’re icing and compressing it to get that out of the muscles.

No matter what muscle you hurt, it’s going to swell.

Well, a brain injury—really, a concussion—is inflammation on the brain. And what they always tell us to do is just don’t go to sleep for a few hours. That’s really the only treatment most people get—especially going back past the last two or three years.

And so you have inflammation that’s sitting on the brain there. And I believe it begins to fester because it’s sitting there.

And eventually you’re going to get to that point where you begin to hate life.

And so it’s no different than any other injury—it’s just inflammation. You have to remove it. And the only way to remove it is two ways.

You can either do what the British military are doing now—they go down in the ocean.

Oh yeah—you were telling me about this.

Yeah. Matter of fact, every time I get in a hyperbaric chamber, it’s called a dive. I’m simulating what they’re doing naturally.

So you can go down in the ocean and stay down there for two hours—which I’m not a fan of. I’m afraid of sharks.

I know. I’m terrified of sharks. I will never do that.

Yeah. Or you can get in a hyperbaric chamber for an hour. An hour a day, or two hours a day—whichever one you choose.

And it’s going to remove that inflammation.

Okay.

Matter of fact, the first time I was in the chamber—like one hour later—I could see colors again. And then over the next few hours, that ten years of cloudiness I had was gone.

And it began to wear off after six days. I went back again. And then I had nine days of clarity.

And at that point, I had to buy one. And I’ve been treating with one ever since.

And just walk the audience through your journey—your time as an athlete, the times you got hurt, the symptoms of CTE, and then finding this chamber.

Okay, that’s too many questions at once. You’re going to get no answers on that.

You’re right. And you just said that.

Walk through just your journey as an athlete and the injuries you sustained.

Okay. Before we get to the best part—what saved me—when I was 23, I worked at this place… a really weird place. It was the first mental health facility in the state of California that was west of the Mississippi River.

All extreme behaviors came there. And so these doctors would come through. Like, if you see somebody doing anything bizarre on the street, that’s what they bring them to us to be evaluated. If they stay bizarre, they get a 72-hour hold, or 5150, which means something’s wrong—we need to check them out.

And so I learned watching people with depression, schizophrenia, bipolar… we had people with… you know, they scrambled the brain up there. Oh my God—what are those people?

Lobotomies?

Lobotomies. Yeah. They were around there.

And we had the criminally insane come through for court sometimes. So I was 23 watching this stuff. And eventually, I opened my own treatment facility for kids. I was the first ever independent-living transitional housing program in the state of Utah.

It was such an innovative new thing that they opened me as a pilot program.

Okay.

So that’s my background. Mental health is my background.

So when I joined Team USA, I had already been open for two or three years. I was a bobsledder. I was traveling the world racing with Team USA—racing America’s Cup, World Cup, World Championships.

And eventually I had my first crash two weeks before the Salt Lake City Winter Olympic Games, over in St. Moritz, Switzerland.

Matter of fact, there’s a video right now floating around about the bobsledders—they all fell off the sled and the driver went down by himself. It was on that track.

That’s where I had my first crash.

And so my brakeman that day was knocked unconscious. I had some really nasty vertigo, and they told us to go back to the hotel and don’t go to sleep for a few hours.

And this guy was unconscious, and I had vertigo.

And so I always say: who was supposed to watch you?

Yeah. Yeah.

Because I couldn’t even sit up in the bed without the room spinning for about a week.

And as a matter of fact, I remember walking down the hallway. I was walking kind of sideways like a crab, and I felt like, “Okay, I’m just doing this for attention. Like, I can really walk straight.” But I really couldn’t walk straight, you know?

Yeah. Who was supposed to watch who?

Yeah. Who was supposed to watch who?

Yeah—so that’s how it started.

And when my symptoms kicked in, I didn’t see it coming because I thought it was low blood sugar. Because that’s why this whole thing is about misdiagnosis.

Kanye—misdiagnosed. The military—misdiagnosed. The housewives—misdiagnosed. The NFL players—misdiagnosed.

Mental health issues. Not mental health.

These guys are millionaires. They have everything. They’ve lived a great life. They’re living a great life, and then they just kill themselves.

It’s a physical injury.

And so I started seeing the patterns… sorry, I’m about to lose your question there.

No, I just said your journey as an athlete and when symptoms start occurring. So you’re basically answering my question.

I’ll tell you one of my biggest symptoms. I remember I went back to see some friends in Salt Lake. I hadn’t been home in a while. We were out shooting pool.

And my buddy was like, “Hey man, there’s your girlfriend coming—your ex-girlfriend.”

I looked over. I said, “She’s pretty, but I don’t know her.”

And she sprints over to me like a Hollywood movie. And she jumps in my arms, and I catch her, and we spin in a circle… you know?

And I realize: I don’t know who she is.

And she was your ex-girlfriend of how many years?

I don’t know.

Yeah. Wow.

Yeah. I was not remembering faces.

And I was still racing on the Olympic team at that time. I still had four or five more years left at that point.

Oh my God.

Yeah. And what I know now is: every time I went down that track, we were getting those micro-concussions or the big concussions.

But every time I went down that track, we were pulling extreme g-forces—like more than fighter pilots. And I didn’t know that at the time.

Because one time we did VIP rides—you know, we have special people come out—and one time we had the fighter pilots.

They pull a little bit more g’s than us. I did seven rides that day. They did one. And after that ride was over, they were rattled.

And I could not understand that. It didn’t make sense to me.

But if you ask any celebrity who’s ever been on their track… they just did the thing with Kelsey—Jason—

Jason Kelsey. Jason Kelsey.

They did. Colin from Saturday Night Live—he just did one.

Colin Jost?

Yeah, yeah. That’s on his own line. They show him just… they did him dirty. They didn’t show him out of—his head is just like… he probably got a concussion right now because his neck was just being like—he was like a ragdoll.

Oh, Colin.

Yeah, it was horrible.

But yeah—you have to tell them how to tuck their neck in. It’s a lot of things you have to do to protect yourself. They didn’t tell him.

As a matter of fact, I took Cameron Diaz on a ride one time.

Really?

Oh, yeah. If she ever sees me, she’s probably going to punch me in the nose.

But I made sure I picked the best driver in the country at the time for her to go down. When I picked them, she was in a great sled.

But when she got out, she was speechless. All she could say was, “It was rough.” That’s all she could get out—rough.

You know? Like… yeah. It’s such a brutal sport.

But what I know now—like, I started this just trying to help my teammates because I was dying. I didn’t think I had much time left.

And so when I filed a class action lawsuit, I asked for transparency.

I said: warn the new generation. Because so many of my teammates are dying and committing suicide.

And I said: you’ve just got to warn those guys what’s down the road for them if they do it.

Yeah.

And then take care of the guys still here who need help. That’s all I asked for. I didn’t say, “Give me a million dollars.” I didn’t ask for anything.

Will didn’t ask for anything for himself.

Yeah.

Purely selfless.

Yeah. And to this day… they’re still fighting me on that right now to this day.

Next court hearing is…

Two weeks. March 11th, I believe.

You said that you noticed in this year’s Olympics they’re not showing the bobsled crashes.

No. They didn’t show any of them.

One country—one guy still… I think he was still in the hospital last time I checked. I forgot what country. Might have been Austria.

But there was at least three or four crashes, and they didn’t show them. They didn’t show them.

Usually they show the carnage. They didn’t show it.

And they actually mentioned TBI.

Yeah, because people love trauma porn.

Yeah, yeah. Usually they mention the TBI. Before, they never mentioned TBI until I forced this.

Okay.

Like, I’m really forcing it on them. Like, this case would have been over a long time ago. All they had to do was just warn. Warn athletes. That’s the number one thing.

I said: that’s the only thing non-negotiable. Just tell them.

Yeah.

You have free will. Walk into it if you choose to walk into it. But just get the warning.

Yeah.

But they can’t just say concussion because… if I had known what my concussion was—like, in a few years, every day I wake up, I know I don’t know the right day.

I had a calendar. Every day I wake up, I had to figure out what day it is. Then I had to figure out what month we’re in.

Because with CTE, you live in a loop. Like, I always thought it was January or August. Every day.

I thought I was 28. I left Team USA when I was 37. I won my last U.S. National Championship at 36. I retired that year. That summer I turned 37.

I thought I was still 28.

So anybody asks me how old I was, I said 28.

Thought for 4 seconds

And I was almost 40. And even when I was in my 40s, young ladies would come up to me—“How old are you?”

“I’m 28.”

They probably think I’m some kind of pervert or something. No—I really thought I was 28. I didn’t know.

And it took my teammate calling me one day—Pavle.

Yeah. I was going to remind you that we’d be remiss if we didn’t mention him.

Oh yeah. He’s the reason why this started.

He called me. He wanted to be a writer, and I was writing projects at the time.

What’s his full name?

Pavle Jovanovic.

Okay.

Yeah—he called me. He wanted to be a writer. And so he would call me with these crazy ideas about movies. And they were so weird—and I’d never seen it before. I’m like, “Man, that’s a great idea.”

And at the time, my business—well, producing partner—he owned the Ninja Turtle franchise. Those are his movies. He’s one of the lead producers on it.

Donatello.

Yeah. I was really waiting to introduce him. I mean, come on—this is awesome. This is high-concept stuff.

And by the last time Pavle called me, he was speaking gibberish.

And I realized… the stuff he was talking to me about before? He was out of his mind then, too. His mind had already slipped.

And after that phone call, I said, “Something’s wrong. I’ve got to help him.”

Because I used to run some of the celebrity rehabs here in Malibu. Like—I used to run some of those things. I used to own one. I used to work for a lot of them.

So I’m like: I’ve got to help my friend, right? He’s struggling.

I did absolutely nothing… other than think about it all day.

And then eventually I got word: he went to his family’s factory and he hung himself.

And then the guilt for me was just crippling. Like I couldn’t… man, I couldn’t get through the day without just losing it a little bit.

Until I realized, when his autopsy report came out, he was stage four. So there was nothing I did that was going to help him.

But also… I was living on the floor of my own apartment. I had an apartment down in Tarzana. And I was there just suffering, and I just didn’t…

I didn’t know I was depressed. I didn’t know that I was struggling. I just knew I had low blood sugar.

That’s why the misdiagnosis thing is so huge. Most people in this country are probably suffering from this, but it’s being misdiagnosed because the symptoms look so similar to everything else.

So the misdiagnosis—you assumed low blood sugar. Were there any other misdiagnoses you received, or was it basically just that one?

Well, first of all, the doctors kept telling me I didn’t have diabetes. So I was only misdiagnosing myself.

Okay.

Usually there’s no diagnosis. You tell people, “I go to the doctor. I’m not feeling right. Something’s off.” You know, they’re asking you, “What are you going through right now?” They’re missing a big point.

The big point is: where were you five to ten years before? Because there’s a gestation period with this thing. It has to brew. And then as it starts to fester, the problems show up.

And so if you look at— they say 60% of the inmates have untreated head injuries. Makes sense. Why so much violence in prisons? Why do we have so many in prisons?

They say 31% of mass shooters are veterans. I believe it’s a lot higher.

And then if you look at all the mass shooters in the country, there’s three categories I’ve narrowed it down to:

It’s the veterans. Then you have people with head conditions—which the veterans also have the same head condition, but I still put them in separate groups. And that third group is like radicalized people and mental health.

But their symptoms are very similar to the rest, so I believe there’s still a connection in there that I’m just… it’s so heavy right now. I just can’t explore it all myself.

But if you look at every mass shooting that happens—check his background. He either was in the war, exposed to the compression blast, or he had a bad car accident, or some type of concussive issue.

And that’s really what those two populations are.

And yeah—so it was affecting all of us.

This is really the pandemic of our lifetime because no one— they’re all looking at each issue separately. Looking at the NFL players, then the bobsledders, then the hockey players, the veterans, soccer…

Everybody’s looking at this separately.

When you take that deep breath and take a step out and look at all the symptoms—and you’ll find the studies out there—all of them have CTE. So it’s been diagnosed in every single group at a high rate.

Yeah. Yeah. And finally, a little bit more of a conversation is starting about it. And that’s basically because you’re making the conversation start.

Yeah. This is really the pandemic of our life. Like—if you think COVID was bad? No. Like, all the violence that we’re watching and the suicides are really directly tied to this.

CTE. Absolutely.

Yeah. They’re just not checking all the brains. But all the brains they are checking—the studies are there. The studies are there.

But they’re not—just like they wanted to silence me—they didn’t want me talking about it.

Like, I’ll give you a crazy one.

The other night I came home—me and my girlfriend went out for a little walk. I get home, my fire alarm’s going crazy. It’s blaring.

So we called maintenance. It was late. They said, “Well, just take the battery out.”

I take it off the wall. It’s hardwired into the wall. So I unplug it—still blaring. I can’t get to the battery.

So I wrap it in two towels and put it outside on the cushion. I said, “Okay.”

So in the morning, maintenance comes by. They put a new one up there. I give them the old one. They said, “Hey—this is not ours. What are you doing with this?”

I said, “I took it off the wall.”

He said, “This is Bluetooth. We don’t have Bluetooth.” He said, “Look at all the rest of these in-house—they don’t look nothing like this.”

I said, “Well, I didn’t put it up there.”

And so he walks out. My girlfriend comes home. And I tell her, “Oh, that thing was Bluetooth. They don’t know where it came from.”

And she said, “Like somebody was listening?”

And I went, “Oh… snap.”

Wait—so I ran down there to get it. And a maintenance man was smashing it up, looking for cameras and microphones. He said, “Because it was so suspicious.” He said, “As soon as I got it away from your unit, it stopped making that noise.”

And so people do not want me talking about this.

There was a producer at CAA who was talking about a documentary. And he sent me an email. He said—after he was pitching it for us—first of all, I warned him. I warned him. I said, “My life might be on the line for talking about this. I don’t know. Maybe I’m being paranoid.”

But he sent me the email back a few months later. He said, “This is not safe material. There are a lot of big forces who want to keep this a secret. They don’t want this.”

So just me talking about it…

But what I’m doing is I’m treating the veterans. So veterans—I’m rolling with those guys. I’m helping them guys. And so I’m going to keep doing what I’m doing.

Yeah, well… Big Pharma and insurance companies unfortunately run this country in a lot of ways. And they don’t want cures for certain things getting out there because they want to profit off of human health.

Yeah. And it’s really disgusting.

And that’s why I’m opening up my center. I’m officially a 501(c)(3), you guys. We’re looking for partners, but we already have the buildings, the location—we have the infrastructure now. We just need a little money for the build-outs and equipment.

Okay. And so—we need you guys.

Okay. Trust me, guys, you heard my story. I was in dementia. Look me up online. This is not made up. This is real. I was in dementia. I didn’t know it until I came out.

I was depressed. I didn’t know it until I came out of it.

Like—was I praying for death every day? Yeah. You would think, “Okay, you can’t miss that.”

No. When you’re going through it, you cannot see what you’re doing.

That’s why you’re watching all these NFL players either killing themselves or killing other people. They can’t see what they’re doing. That’s so bizarre. And most people can’t.

Same thing with our veterans. All the athletes. The housewives who get battered up and then now they’re acting bizarre—they’re finding it in them as well.

So people ask, “Why do they stay?” Well, now we know.

Yeah. CTE.

You’re not really aware of your surroundings anymore. You just become this vessel. You’re just kind of existing. You’re kind of in your own little world.

And to be clear: CTE—head trauma—it’s not an excuse for committers of violence. It’s not an excuse for mass shooters. But it is an explanation for a lot of them.

And I’m sure there are some mass shooters out there—a decent number—who have never had anything go on with their head. But it is an explanation for a lot of them. And that’s different than an excuse.

Well, you can never excuse harming anybody, but they have no concept of what— a lot of them have no concept of what they’re doing. No concept of what they’re doing.

Yeah. And I only know that because I lived on the other side of it.

Yeah. And until I came out of it, like, nobody… I saw doctors for years telling them, “Hey man, I’m cloudy. I’m confused. I’m—you know—I think it’s diabetes.”

They tell me, “Oh no, it’s not diabetes,” but they’re not telling me what it really is. They’re not telling me, “You’re in dementia.”

Like—

Well, I think they probably didn’t know. I feel like the field of neurology… it’s gotten a lot of improvement in recent years. In the last ten years, it’s improved so much, but it still is really, really behind.

This has been the last ten years. I didn’t find hyperbaric oxygen until 2022. I was still seeing doctors for this stuff until 2023 and 2024.

Yeah.

And when did you leave Team USA? What year?

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So 2007, you left Team USA, and you were still seeing doctors for this up until 2023, 2024.

I’m still—yeah. Even to this day. I mean, today, you’re still seeing—

Yeah. Even right now.

The problem is: now that they understand what my condition is, I’ve got peers.

Like, my driver from the World Championship—Stephen Holcomb—he’s won every Olympic medal for men that’s been won since 2003. It was him. He committed suicide at the Olympic Training Center.

My other teammate, Pavle—he killed himself after calling me. And there’s been many others. And there’s a lot of other suicide attempts, Parkinson’s, seizure struggles. These just are Olympic athletes.

And so now that I have the information specifically, I know what this is. So when I talk to my primary—my primary refers me to a neurologist. When they call us at the appointment, they ask me, “Okay, what’s the issue?”

When I tell them specifically—well, I know what it is now—they all tell me the same thing: “Don’t come here. We can’t help you.”

So to this day, no one in my insurance plan has been able to see me.

Except for one doctor I found outside—he helped the NFL guys. I went to see him. He gave me a Zoloft. That’s all he gave me—a Zoloft.

I failed every test he gave me. They give you a word and ask you a couple questions and tell you to repeat that word. And then I couldn’t do it.

And then he said, “Okay, remember this word.” And then he asked me one thing. “Okay, what was that word?”

I was failing everything miserably.

He gave me a Zoloft. And then that Zoloft…

I had a deal. I made a deal with myself. I said, “God, I know if I kill myself, I’m going to leave that trauma on my family. So I can’t do it. But you can come get me any day. And I hope that day will be today.”

So that was my prayer every day: “Please come get me. I just can’t.”

Yeah. That’s what— for a while after my accident, I thought the exact same thing. I was like, “I don’t have a plan to commit suicide. Like, I’m not going to do that.” But if I was hit by another car, that would be A-OK with me.

Yeah. So I know how that feels.

Oh my God, yeah.

Yeah. But when they gave me that Zoloft— that deal—every window I looked at looked like a swimming pool to me. Every window. I wanted to just jump through it.

And the sad part is I told myself what I used to tell my clients. Like, whenever you have a new med and they say they’re not feeling good… “You know what? It takes a little time to build up in your system. You’ve got to give it time.”

Wrong answers, man. Wrong. That’s what they teach us to teach them. And here I am teaching it to myself.

And I tell you: every window I looked at looked like a swimming pool. And I just wanted to just go. And I had to stop.

I mean, I just cold-turkeyed it. Just stopped it. And then I went back to baseline: “Okay, God—you can come get me when you want to. I’m not going to kill myself.”

And so that’s how I also figured out what was wrong with Kanye.

He always talked about meds in all his interviews—talking about these meds that made him sick. That was the first red flag for me.

And then I listened to his story. And I remember watching it in the theater. But I told people for years he wasn’t bipolar.

He might be schizophrenic, but not bipolar. I know what that looks like. And he’s not.

So when I’m watching his documentary in the theater, I was doing the numbers. And he got diagnosed bipolar at 40. And I was like…

No way. Impossible. That’s a late bipolar diagnosis.

Yeah. You’re going to get that at 19, 20. Yeah. Maybe 25. You ain’t going to make it to 40.

Is it possible? Eh—possible.

But then I started doing the math. I was like, “Okay—40?” And then the math… I’m watching his behaviors. He’s so up and down, erratic. Then he’s calm.

All the NFL players—all the wives—will tell you the same thing: their spouses were doing that. Veterans. That’s why they all wound up living separate from their wives—because of that behavior.

And I’m thinking, “Wow—this guy had a concussion.” But he’s a rapper—how could he have a concussion?

Then that song, Through the Wire, just jumped out at me. Like, I can’t really remember lyrics to many songs, but I remember him talking about having a concussion.

No—he never said concussion. He said he had an accident. His jaw was broken. It was in the back of his mouth.

And I went—I screamed in the theater—I said, “Bingo!”

People looking at me like, “What is this?”

Yeah.

That’s it. That’s it.

And then sure enough, they were like, “Hey—he had a traumatic brain injury.” But it was undiagnosed.

In the article I read—that you sent me—it said he was diagnosed in 2023. His accident was— I forget what year—

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Remember my formula? It was a ten-year period—things are going to get really bizarre. Then you’ve got another four to six years where you’re going to be suicidal, homicidal.

Remember: the veterans are shooting people because that’s what they learn to do in the military. That’s what they’re taught.

Yeah.

Athletes are going to harm themselves, harm other people—that’s what they’re taught. Harm people. That’s what they focus on.

Him—his weapon is his mouth. And that’s what he’s…

If he didn’t have that mouth, he would be dead already. I’ll guarantee it. His mouth is his weapon.

Yeah. That’s what you’ve been saying. His mouth is his weapon.

And I don’t blame him. I don’t. I feel sorry for him because I know what that is.

But he still got it wrong. He still thinks he’s bipolar, which means he’s going to crumble again soon.

Yeah. And I will say: now that they know about his head finally… now that they know about it, it’s definitely a little… where it’s like, you have access to the best healthcare. Like, you have access to better healthcare than I have—better healthcare than you have. Like, you have access to the absolute best healthcare.

And I feel like he’s taking all of it and just essentially throwing it out the window that he’s still—

No—he’s doing what they told him to do.

Yeah.

That’s not his fault he was misdiagnosed.

Yeah. It’s not his fault that they gave him meds that make you sicker. If it tells you on the box, “If you take this pill…”

It wasn’t his fault then, but I’m saying now that he has the diagnosis—

He has the diagnosis, but who’s telling him what to treat? Who’s treating him? His doctors. It’s still the same problem.

Yeah.

And remember—that’s the biggest point. He’s a billionaire, and he still hasn’t figured it out yet.

So how does that reflect on the rest of us?

And as a matter of fact, when I was in dementia, I’m walking to my doctor’s office a mile from my house. Some days I was afraid to drive because I didn’t want to hurt anybody, because I’d get cloudy.

So I would walk.

And so eventually, as I got stronger—after I’m using hyperbaric oxygen—I’m finding my way back.

My doctor told me, “Are you sure you want to keep using that thing? It’s dangerous.”

Like… what’s the alternative? I mean—going back?

And so these doctors aren’t educated on what this really is and how it’s working.

But if you look at the military—they’re doing it now. They understand what it is. They’re doing it.

Over in Israel, they have big chambers—48 people can get in there at once.

Oh, wow.

Yeah. So the world is catching up now, but it’s just taking people like me.

Like—I found out about it by accident because… I still was thinking I had diabetes or, you know, whatever it was.

You didn’t know.

No, I didn’t know.

And then when my teammate killed himself and he was stage four—now I’m looking up stage four of CTE. Now my algorithm on my phone changed, and Joe Namath’s video showed up.

So Joe Namath actually saved my life.

Yeah. I wonder if you guys know him. He’s an old football head from the ’60s—the first flamboyant quarterback. Remember, he was on the sidelines before I was born with fur coats on? He’s the beginning of flamboyant football.

I love that.

Yeah—he saved my life because he gave me the knowledge to try it. And I didn’t think it was going to work.

Oh—so he also had CTE and hyperbaric oxygen—

Yeah. Yeah. But he had a team of doctors that treated him. And as a matter of fact, they named a wing to the hospital after him in Florida.

Here I am— all my social media, if you want to find me, is called One Man With a Chamber.

One Man With a Chamber.

Yeah—because I’m one man with a chamber sharing my experiences.

And so when I first started, I was just teaching people the details of using it—the ups and downs—because Joe Namath didn’t leave that for us. He just said it reversed his symptoms. He didn’t say what his symptoms were, how it helped, how it didn’t help.

And so I’m just trying to help people so they don’t go through what I went through.

And then eventually, when I got stable, I said, “Hey—wait a minute. You can live with this thing.”

And so now the nature’s kind of changed. Now I help people learn to live with it and take all the potholes out of the way—because I’ve stepped in so many potholes. It was ridiculous.

During COVID, I bought four cars for some reason.

Like—that’s why you’ll look at the NFL players. When they leave the league, they’re always broke within four years.

This is why. Same thing with me: I was going broke because I was making poor decisions. Every time I bought this car, I felt like I had to have it for some reason.

“Oh, it’s electric. Okay—now I’m going to protect the economy because now I’m going to get no gas.”

Then I bought a lake house to go die in, and it’s got a gravel road. It’s a private road. So now I need an SUV because I’m living on a gravel road.

You know, it’s always some reason. There was always some reason.

Reason, yeah.

And the only thing that saved me during COVID… it was a shortage of cars. So every time I got ready to switch cars—only one time I got beat up a little bit on it. But the rest of them, I didn’t sink too bad. I lost a little bit of money here, but…

Yeah.

Yeah, I know that when I had my injury—and I don’t know if it was when I was leaving the hospital, or some point in therapy… who knows. We go through a lot.

But I remember one of the things they told me—the biggest warning—and they told my parents about it—was impulsive spending. And they were like, “She can absolutely start impulsively spending. Keep an eye on that.”

And that is why I’m almost 28 and my dad still sees all my credit card statements.

Nice.

Because he’s like, “I’m making sure.”

Yeah.

Yeah, and that’s the thing. I tell everybody: it’s your loved ones who are going to save you. Because you can’t do it alone. It’s your loved ones. It’s the loved ones. It’s your loved ones.

I say all the time: I wouldn’t be where I am. I wouldn’t be doing any of this. I wouldn’t have recovered the way I have if it wasn’t for my family. My mom especially—my dad, my lovely father—my brother.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that’s beautiful. Like, for most athletes, we’re kind of isolated.

Yeah.

And so I didn’t really have that until it showed up at the right time.

Yeah. Well, my family lives in New York, so I was here. So I’m isolated in that sense.

But my family is family, and when my accident happened, my mom was here for the entire time I was in the hospital. My dad and brother came out a few times. Then I went back—I recovered for the most part in New York.

And then once I moved back to L.A., in the beginning, my mom was out here every month.

Every month.

Now we don’t need that anymore. But in the beginning, it was every month my mom or my dad or someone was out here.

But you’re different. Because remember: you had one accident that caused this.

I had one accident, yes.

For the athletes—and people who have the repeated injuries—it’s slow progression. It’s slow progression, which is very different.

And what’s also different, regarding me—what I’m lucky about—is I needed brain surgery. They were like, “Oh, she needs brain surgery.” We brought her in. We did it.

So many athletes— not athletes, victims in general—because it’s a progression of moderate hits just being stacked on, stacked on… they don’t know right away that there’s something with the brain they need to check up on.

And I do know someone who was in a car accident—was also hit by a car—a while ago. A very long time ago. And she had so many other issues with other things going on in her body that they completely ignored the head, because she didn’t have a brain bleed. She didn’t need brain surgery.

And now, ten years later, she’s making a bit of erratic decisions. She’s losing some vision. She has issues with headaches—all kinds of issues like that. And they’re like, “Oh my gosh—you had a moderate head injury and we didn’t realize, because we were focused on everything else.”

Yeah. And also a lot of the misdiagnosis with this thing is because if you had the head injury—and once it starts to fester—it affects your gut health. It affects your central nervous system. You start having aches and pains in different places. And there’s nothing wrong with those areas. It’s all coming from the brain.

Yeah.

And so yeah—that’s why this thing is so misdiagnosed. Because they’re looking at all the wrong things.

All the wrong things.

Yeah. The medical community needs to figure out: when you’re having those problems—where were you five to ten years ago?

Five to ten years ago. That’s really what the—

Yeah. And the only people who are going to see that are the loved ones, because you see it over time.

I hate to say this, but anytime somebody does something awful that’s on the news, they always say the same thing: “Oh, all of a sudden, they just weren’t acting like themselves.”

It’s the same thing over and over.

And so the same thing—only your loved ones are going to know when you’re not acting like you. Because the police are not going to know when they have an interaction with you. Nobody’s going to know. It’s only going to be the people around you who know you. They can see when your behavior changes.

But then they have to ask: where were they five to ten years before? And that’s really the true answer.

Yeah. Five to ten years.

Unfortunately, the reality is—and I’m taking this as an opportunity to interject this— a lot of stomach issues and eating issues relate back to both head injuries and also just trauma in general.

So if you have a lot of stomach issues that you can’t figure out, and you don’t really know what’s going on, and you had a head accident a little bit ago—or you just have really bad trauma, emotional or physical—look into that. Look into that, because that is something that I’ve learned: a lot of it comes from there.

And not like me myself have learned from reading books and stuff—I’ve learned that.

So where’s the emotional trauma? Where do you hold that at, though?

Your head. You hold it in your head.

You didn’t let me go through the progression.

Oh—okay. Go through the progression.

Is it the hand?

Well, emotional trauma can start… it can be in your shoulders.

It can be in the shoulders, but it comes from the brain. Again—but it all comes from the brain. It can be in your shoulders. It could be in your hand. I hold a lot of mine here—I know some people hold it—

But it all stems from this thing. All stems are in the brain.

Yeah.

Everything you feel—your brain is telling your body to feel it. That’s why there’s phantom limb pain.

I still can’t process that one. Somebody was talking about a guy who had his leg amputated, but he’s still having the pain. But it’s gone. How could you…

Because your brain is like—it’s still there.

Yeah. Your brain is so powerful. It’s crazy. It’s crazy.

It’s a little scary, but it’s also beautiful because… if we can figure it out more, healing the brain heals so many things.

Yeah.

But my opinion of this is—and I’m sticking with it—most things that ail us… I know I mentioned a little bit earlier—it’s inflammation in different parts of the body. Most diseases are inflammation. Anything that has “-itis” on it—inflammation.

But also with lupus and most heart disease—it’s inflammation in different parts of the body. It’s the same with the brain. But we just ignore it in the brain because they—usually you don’t see the brain swell unless it’s something massive.

Yeah. Unless you—like surgery. My situation… which the one thing that brain surgery has going for you over not having brain surgery is that you see everything. You see the swelling. You see all the things. Where if it’s moderate or mild, you don’t.

Yeah, but the thing is—it’s still there. It’s still there.

How do you get it out? Well… they just usually leave it. And most people, you keep doing the things you’ve been doing, which is what caused it in the first week. Keep going down this bobsled track. Football players keep playing football. Hockey players keep playing hockey.

Soccer players—actually the biggest sport for CTE is soccer right now. Soccer because of the head punting.

Which is so funny because they call it a non-contact sport, I think. And it’s like… no, it’s a lot of physical contact, actually.

Yeah, it’s a lot.

It’s the biggest CTE sport—soccer.

Yeah. It’s the biggest. It’s the biggest CTE sport: soccer.

So if any of you out there play soccer—no head punting anymore.

Yeah. No head punting.

Remember, I had some people from Australia— I don’t want to say the Australian government because that’s not accurate—but they said they just filed the same lawsuit that I filed here for the class action, but for the rugby players and football players down there.

Same. So much violence and suicides down there as well.

Oh, yeah. Well, rugby’s insane. It’s football without any equipment. That’s wild. Why would you put yourself in that position?

Absolutely.

Yeah. And they’re asking me, “Well, can you come out and help us with this here?”

I had people in Ukraine—in the blast zones—find me. This was about two weeks ago.

Oh, wow.

Yeah—the TBI. They’ve been watching my posts—content. And it’s like, “We’re having the same problem with the blasts. We’re getting bombed all the time. Can you help us? Do a partnership with us?”

And I’m still trying to create the one here. So I’m trying to figure out how to help those guys.

But the world is waking up. We just have to show people what it really is.

And right now, when I started this, I’m one man shouting, “Hey—fire.” Nobody’s listening to me.

But once I connected all the dots, I’m like… oh my God.

Like, one night I woke up and I just cried because I was like, “God, I know what this is… but how can I stop this? This is already here. This is here.”

And so that’s why I keep talking.

This is probably one of my last podcasts. Remember—I shut it down a few weeks back. And now I’m just raising funds. Just to open up.

Raising funds, yeah.

Well, I’m glad I could get you in again for the last one.

Oh, I have to come back because I dropped you a nugget. I told you Kanye West.

You told me. You did tell me Kanye. You did before the article came out.

Yes—he told me Kanye first. And it was a little like… “We’ll see.”

And then the article came out, and I sent it to Nick—my old editor—too. And we were like, “Holy shit. He said it. He said it. He said it.”

So thank you for saying that.

Same thing—the media’s been fine to me. Nothing I’ve said…

I’ve made these wild claims about the military, Kanye, and they’re so specific. They can take it and rip me apart easy. But I told them: misdiagnosed. I said what happened to him, when, why, and how.

It’s just… you can’t argue with the facts.

Wow—you screamed about Kanye. No one listened to you. And now this article comes out and they’re all crawling back. And you’re like, “Well, well, well. I’m not crazy. I just collected the data and lived experiences.”

But the sad part is: anybody that’s ever hit their head has a ticking time bomb. If the symptoms show themselves, like—it’s usually ten years.

Now, I just want people to understand what it is so you can get the help. And the help is simple.

I hop in my chamber. I was in there one hour—and you know, I wasn’t healed in an hour, don’t get me wrong—but results were there in an hour.

Like, I could see colors again. And my cloudiness was gone for six days the very first time.

And they said that’s really not the norm. It usually takes like 30 days of two treatments a day.

But it’s simple. People don’t have to perish. And we can knock down this mass shooting rate as well as our suicide rates here.

It’s really what it is. It’s just hiding in plain sight. And I’m like, I cannot be the only one who’s figured this out.

Yeah. And I’m sure I’m not.

Yeah. And that’s why they’re trying to silence it. They don’t want it.

Well, I recently watched a documentary—I believe it was HBO; I’m now forgetting the platform—but it was about how the shooting prevention industry is like a $3 billion industry. So at the end of the day, it comes back to money.

It’s just like Big Pharma and insurance companies don’t want cures getting out because that takes away money. It’s the exact same thing.

Now the mass shooting prevention industry is $3 billion. The pro-shooting industry—the gun industry—the NRA—is billions of dollars. And people just like money, unfortunately, above human health.

But the truth is, like, if we address the real problem… guns aren’t the issue.

Yeah. Guns aren’t the issue. Guns aren’t the issue. It’s the head. It’s the head issues.

Yeah. I think our laws and our access to guns are a bit of an issue, but—

Well, but it’s happening worldwide now.

Yeah. And so it’s not just here anymore.

Yeah. But, you know, I’m not saying that—

But it is largely—

Yeah, yeah, yeah—absolutely. It is largely here.

Well, just like when World War II happened, the Japanese said they didn’t come to America to invade us because every American has guns in the house.

And so yeah—we have a lot of guns here. But, you know, if we didn’t have guns, it’d be knives, you know?

And that’s really the truth of what this illness is and what the sickness is because—

The problem is with guns: you can get so many more, so much quicker.

Oh, absolutely. And I’m not advocating for guns. That’s not—

Yeah.

Because like—one of the first people I spoke to about this condition—and I won’t say their name or anything, but they trust me, you know?

Like, I was suicidal. But one person told me they have a hit list of people they want to murder, right?

They have a special therapist whose only job is to keep them from murdering the people on that list.

And so that’s what this thing really is.

And when I heard that, I was like, “Oh my God.” Like—whoa.

Yeah.

Yeah. I was about to say that’s insane. But yeah… unfortunately, he is biologically insane.

Well—and that person told me they didn’t have any issues.

I’m like, “What?” Like, I had to really break it down and show that person: “Hey—wait a minute. This is what you were exposed to. This is what this is.”

And then when they showed it with their loved ones, they were like, “Oh my God—yes. I see it now.”

But same thing with me—the article.

Okay, during COVID—this is during COVID. I throw myself under the bus all the time.

I was dying. I knew I was. I couldn’t kill myself, and I was getting lost in my own little community over in Tarzana. So I bought a lake house back in the Midwest, near my family, but far enough away where I just…

All I could do out there is: I got a nice fishing lake 100 yards from the backyard. Or I got four acres of land where I can just cut the grass.

That’s all I could do all day out there. There’s nothing. I can’t get lost there.

So it was a young lady I was seeing back here—which we just got engaged three weeks ago.

Oh, congratulations!

Thank you. I’ve got to show you. I proposed to her at her job. I was dressed like the Wicked Witch. She didn’t know it was me, and I just gave her the business at her job.

Oh my God.

And then at the last minute, I got on one knee.

But it went viral because somebody posted it, and it started to go viral.

Oh my God—congratulations.

Yeah, but let me take a step back. Okay—I almost lost my train of thought.

Where does she work?

Well, she actually works for this big company, but her mom has cancer right now. So she took an extra job at Red Lobster just to make a little extra money to come back home.

Okay.

Yeah. So Red Lobster opened—I think it’s the Woodland Hills area.

Okay—amazing. You’ve got to show me the video.

Yeah. I looked like her favorite character. That was her favorite character.

Oh—the Wicked Witch is her favorite character?

Oh, she loves that Wicked movie.

Oh my God. If I hear the Wicked song one more time, I’m probably just going to…

That was beautiful. Okay—I’m excited to see the video.

But you were saying.

Oh—okay. So during COVID, yes.

I would hit the lake house. I’d come back and see her. And sometimes she’d come see me.

And so one time during COVID, like—we’re stuck in the house together. And she speaks on the phone with her family a lot. And they talk—she’s from New York—they talk loud.

Like, it was just killing me.

You’re speaking to another New Yorker.

Yeah, man. I was like… I think you guys are all born with megaphones in your throat.

Literally.

That’s why I don’t hear how loud I am. With the mics—when I do mic tests and stuff for my editor—I’m always like, “So this is how I talk, and this is how everyone else talks.”

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We’re born with megaphones.

Yeah. So during COVID, we’re in the house together—we’re stuck in it. Everybody’s isolating.

And so I’m talking to her and I’m like, “The noise is killing me. I can’t.” She’s just talking to her family—nothing extreme—but it was too loud.

I said, “We might have to break up. I’m going back to the lake house. I need some peace and quiet.”

So when I’m over there, this article from the New York Times shows up called Sled Head. And it’s talking about my teammates—with all the symptoms they had: some of the suicides, the Parkinson’s, the seizures, strokes… a whole gamut of stuff.

And so I read the article.

I get down on my knees and I thank God all those symptoms missed me. I said, “I know I’m dealing with a lot, God, but at least I don’t have this stuff like my teammates.”

So I’m not even relating my symptoms to what bobsledding was causing in everybody else.

And so I sent my girlfriend the article, and she circled some stuff.

And the first thing that jumped out at me was noise sensitivity.

And I went, “What?”

And I went back and looked at that article again, and I checked a lot of those boxes.

And I went, “Oh my God.”

And that’s when I figured out what my boogeyman really was: CTE.

Yeah. And then a little bit after that—that’s when Pavle’s autopsy report came out, and he was stage four.

And then I just became an advocate—trying to scream “fire.”

Just: “Guys—something’s wrong here. This is what it really is.”

And that’s how it started.

But like… when I was living it—like I said—I prayed for death all day. That was my routine: praying for death.

But if you asked me if I was depressed, I would say, “No. Are you crazy? Why would I be depressed?”

You can’t… you’re disconnected from everything.

And so like with Kanye—I give that guy a pass because I know what’s on the inside. He doesn’t know what he’s doing.

You can say he does all you want to, but until you live this, you understand.

Like, think about it: our American soldiers—11,000 to 13,000 suicides a year. They go away and fight for our country, right? For our freedoms, supposedly, right? And they come back, and then they turn the gun on us.

31% to 35% of mass shootings is our veterans.

That’s not rational. It’s not rational at all. They don’t know what they’re doing. They have no idea what’s going on.

And so that’s what this thing really is.

And so you’ve got to give Kanye a little bit of… give him a little bit of grace.

And he still hasn’t figured it out.

I always—yeah, that’s my thing. I’m like, listen, it’s not an excuse. It’s an explanation. Just give him a little bit of grace.

Still, a lot of the things he’s done is very, very, very wrong. I’m not pretending that it’s not wrong.

Oh yeah. It’s awful. It’s awful. But just give him, like, an ounce of grace.

Well, guess what? Because no one gave me grace.

He didn’t murder anybody. He hasn’t murdered people.

That’s what our soldiers are doing. Our veterans who fought for us are coming back here and murdering us.

Like—what about those guys?

It’s all the same stuff. You just get it different ways.

The veterans are getting it from compression blasts in the face. If they’re flying a fighter jet, they’re getting it from the G-forces. The bobsledders—we’re getting it from concussions and the G-forces. Football players are getting it from concussions.

It’s all the same thing—just a different way of getting it.

It’s all the same—just a different way.

Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I’m glad you could come back and give us this today. I’m really excited to get this one out there.

And just to reiterate for everyone—because we need to get this news out there, that’s the point of this episode—One Man With a Chamber @One_Man_With_A_Chamber on all social media.

The link to the GoFundMe will be in the show notes.

And we’re also a 501(c)(3).

Oh—501(c)(3). We are official, yes.

501(c)(3)—they’re official. So if anyone wants to partner, if anyone wants to help them out—this is really an opportunity to make some necessary and beautiful change in the world.

All the buildings are in place. We have all the rental properties in place that we’re going to turn for the housing. I have the building that we’re going to put the facility in, and I’m also donating in—my lake house will be part of it as well.

All of my stuff is going—I’m committed.

So you’re ready to go.

I’m ready to go. I just need help with the build-out.

And giving away a lot of yourself to do so—which all acts of service will be supported by the universe.

And I’m glad Pavle gave us this, and I’m glad you’re continuing it.

Yeah. And one more thing I want to say—like the whole thing with Kanye—like, I didn’t even want to go see his documentary. I don’t support anything he does because it’s been so bizarre. And I don’t— I thought it was mental health stuff. That’s what I was thinking it was. And I never thought about the concussion part of it.

And so I didn’t want to be a part of promoting anything that’s going to help him keep doing what he’s doing—putting a shine of light on it.

But I’m glad I went to see the documentary because then it helped me connect the dots to the concussion.

Which is—think about it—anybody in the world… we’ve all been in car accidents. We’ve all got that ticking time bomb in our head.

And you connecting those thoughts has probably done a lot of good, because now all these companies—or not companies: organizations, countries, whatever you would call them—are reaching out to you because you screamed about Kanye before anyone else did.

Yeah. Yeah. And the veterans. And the veterans. And the veterans.

Look up TreatNow.org, guys. It’s out there. They’re doing the same treatments that I’m doing. It’s… yeah.

TreatNow.org. I’ll also put that in the show notes, and the GoFundMe.

Again, I keep saying it because it’s so important: @One_Man_With_A_Chamber.

I don’t even really want to promote myself on this one because yours is so much more important. So yeah—I’m not going to.

This has been Gabriella Rebranded: Win Most, Lose Some. Thank you so much for coming back and doing this today. This is going to be really great.

Yeah. Thank you.

Oh, you’re very welcome.