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Father's Loss Turned Into Remote Energy Healing w/ Luminara l Ep 37

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Reiki healing, breathwork, burnout, AI, transactional energy, love

Make energy healing mainstream - that is Luminara's goal. Meet Romain Daumont, the founder of the energy healing talent agency, Luminara. Energy healing talent agency? I'm sorry - what? 

Born from grief & devastation over the loss of his son, Luminara is an online immersive platform that pairs you with an energy healer curated for your specific needs. From the comfort of your own home, people can now log on and have recurring sessions with a curated energy healer. 

People chalk energy healing up to be 'woo, woo,' but energetic healing works at a cellular level, something that people are finally starting to talk about. While energetic healing isn't a 'cure all,' it is something that should be more than complimentary to modern medicine. 

The same healer doesn't work for everyone - everyone has their own needs. That's why Luminara guides you in finding the healer that fits for you. 

Use my code, LUMIGAB20 , for 20% off!

Don't worry, you're not limited to the only one single healer that they chose for you. While they guide you, you can watch videos of several that they recommend before who you decide you want to work with - and a switch up is always an option.

With burnout on the rise, Romain & his son, Raphael, are here to combat it with love.


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Love As The Final Scorecard

SPEAKER_00

When we will look back at the end of our life, was my life any good? How many people have we loved? Have I given enough love? I had a time on this planet to give love. Did I give enough love? Because I had infinite love. The companies you've built, that's good. The legacy you will leave, that's good. But ultimately, I think success to me is not defined by just how many houses you have, how many millions you've made or billions. It's really about how did you leave the world a better place, a more peaceful, kinder place? Like you're not gonna be buried with your money. No. Let's face it.

A Spirituality Podcast With Humor

SPEAKER_03

I don't want to be the richest corpse in the graveyard. My friend Emily always says who cares? Almost dying taught me how to live. Being struck by a car left me in a three and a half week coma with 15 broken bones and 16 surgeries to complete, including brain surgery. However, I woke up from that coma in an even greater place than I ever foresaw for myself. The universe will guide you out of the darkness and into the light if you allow it. Often, spirituality comes off as too high brown. I'm not about that. Welcome to the podcast that talks and teaches about it through the lens of humor. Together, we'll harness positive energy and use it to work with the universe. All while giggling the entire time. Welcome to Gabriella Rebranded. When most lose some. This is so exciting. We have our first international guest. This is Roman Dumas. You are based in Paris. And Roman, he created Luminara. Am I saying it right? Okay. Luminara, which is an energy healing um software website. What exactly is it?

SPEAKER_00

It's a talent agency.

Romain’s Loss And The Power Of Silence

SPEAKER_03

A talent agency, an energy hearing healing talent agency, which is so fascinating. I was looking at it a little bit and I have a free session, so I'm definitely going to use it and check it out. But when you reached out to me, the real reason why I was like, oh, this is so fascinating. I definitely want to bring you on to have a conversation, is what inspired your creation of Luminara, because you have a very logic-based background. You went to university, got all the degrees, and what inspired this was the unfortunate passing of your son. So that I am very interested in all things that are born from grief and born through trauma. This was born from grief, born through trauma. So I wanted to bring you on to talk about how your son, how you guys worked together, because he's working with you to create Luminara. Why Luminara? Um, and yeah, basically that's it. Why Luminara? What do you think? What why does this what you want to give? So let's start with talking about your son.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, thank you, Gabriella. Thank you for having me here. Thank you. I'm honored to be the first international guest.

SPEAKER_03

First international guest in Paris, a bougie, abusive international place.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah. Um, so well, no one is prepared to lose a child, and it's not the way it's meant to happen. Um, so in 2014, my wife and I, we had a first boy in 2010. Okay. Perfectly fine. Okay. Um, but my wife is British Indian.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I'm French, so we're not blood related at all. And yet we figured out that we had a gene that was broken, this very same gene broken for two different reasons, uh, different mutation. So having um that was something super rare. Like I often say it's like tossing a coin in Los Angeles and asking you to find it, Gabriella. It's that uh you know statistically, it doesn't make sense. But our kid we we discovered that at around the fifth month of uh pregnancy, that his uh kidneys uh had an issue. So it was absorbing all the amniotic fluid, and therefore the the lungs can't develop. So we gave him a chance, and we had the the joy of of having him uh uh uh in the world for three days, but then he transitioned. And and that was um the moment everything started because um well silence is really something that is very, very hard to live with when you know people don't know what to tell you, and you feel that uh you know they want to help you and you want to say kind things, but they couldn't say anything during the pregnancy. But the moment uh he passed away, I felt like silence, the presence of people in the funeral was so wonderful, so such a bless.

SPEAKER_03

The stillness, yeah.

A Bigger Vision

SPEAKER_00

And then and that's how it all started because I discovered silence, and then I created an app five years after called Hilo that was a name, it's like WhatsApp meets headspace. Okay, um, and that was the first step of my journey.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and then that app became Luminara.

Synchronicity And A Remote Healing Story

SPEAKER_00

And then I I yes, I it's um you you may call it a yeah, um a pivot. Okay. Um, and I I had the chance to experience Hilo with friends and at with uh an NGO called November in uh November 2022, and that led me to put this intention on studying what is the power of collective meditation, what is the power of what's happening when people gather in silence, and I thought, wow, science must have some some clues about what we're experiencing, and and then I had this amazing synchronicity early 2023. Okay, a moment that wasn't supposed to happen. But I met this woman who healed her mom, and and that changed everything because when I had this intention of studying the science around um, you know, collective meditation and and and remote healing, I then met this woman who told me about the story of her and her mom. And do you want me to go into this story? Please, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, you're like, I had this moment. I was like, do you want to talk about the moment?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, yeah, so so this woman, uh, it's a crazy story. Um so I had this intention, right? And then what happens is that um a friend of mine that is living in Romania just said to me, Roman, you got to meet my fiance. And he was coming to Paris, he was in Paris already, and he wanted me to meet her so badly that I had to see her. So I say, All right, it was 2nd of Jan 2023, it was a Monday, I remember very well. And so this friend is telling me, You got to meet her. Okay, okay, fine, fine, fine. So I have a dog, I had a dog at the time, and I went on, and I see is so excited. And when you see a friend that's so excited, uh you feel like some there's something in the air, you know? Yeah, and he won't he was he proposed to her. He he he he bought the rings at Cartier.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, Cardiff, we're just talking about on top of the Champs d'Alysée, and he was so excited, and then I I hear her saying, Well, we're still in negotiation.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm like, wait a second, how how many months, how many years have you been dating? Yeah, and he said, Well, two weeks. So you're like, wait a second. So you proposed to me this woman that you only met two weeks ago. Two weeks, yes. So already there is a little something that makes you feel like, well, is this a candid camera? Like, seriously, is this happening?

SPEAKER_03

And this isn't a friend who had a history of rushing into relationship with the city.

SPEAKER_00

The guy's 50 years old. Okay, all right. It's not, it's not, you know, you think about young couple going to Las Vegas, getting married on the spur of the moment.

SPEAKER_03

But this was not that at all.

SPEAKER_00

But you think, wait a second, who's this woman? What is this? What is happening here? And so I look at this woman called Anna, and she's she's amazing, she's uh in fintech, she has this company with a PhD in math. She works, she has a PhD in uh uh economic science, she seems like super non-woo woo.

SPEAKER_03

So another person who's very logic and very logic, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

And so I am I am surprised, like why how come she he fell in love with her anyway? I'm talking about my intention because I ask her about all the questions about her job, and then I tell a bit about myself and the fact that I'm looking at you know, studying more around collective meditation and consciousness, etc. And I talk about Hilo, and I'm thinking, oh, she's gonna think I'm a little bit funny and stuff like that. And then she says, Well, I healed my mom. What do you mean you healed your mom? So story inside a story 15 years back, she told me that she was she was going through a divorce, two young kids, classic story, and she asked her mom for help. So she was living in Bucharest. Her mom is saying, Sure, darling, I'll go help you. She's coming to the house, and it's it's bliss. She finally got to work on her PhD, and the mom is taking care of many things. Up to the moment where she has a bike accident, and her mom is breaking her leg in many, many ways. And so Anna is going from heaven to hell. She has to take care of her mom, the kids, everything. Trying to do her PhD like it's a mess. Yeah, it's a mess.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so Anna is desperate. It's, you know, this dark night of the soul kind of moment.

SPEAKER_03

It's yeah, unfortunately, that's how it tends to play out.

Planting The Seed For Luminara

SPEAKER_00

It is, it is. And so she's telling me the story. I'm like, okay. And and then she says, Well, at some point, I had read, she told me I read some books around the power of positive visualization. Yes. You know, what which is quite you know, something athletes are doing, and it's it's not woo-woo, it's just yeah, something people do, but it's very powerful. And she thinks, you know, mom, I'm gonna heal you. Mommy's, yeah, sure, darling, go for it. So when the kids are in bed, she goes to her mom's room, and for 20 minutes, she's explaining to me that she's filling the room with love, light, angels, and and just visualizing the leg of her mom in perfect condition. Because, you know, she wanted her to heal much faster. And the doctors had said it's gonna take six to eight months for her to literally get back on her feet. Oh my god, literally, yeah. And it's just getting a lot faster, thanks to that. And at that moment, Gabriella, uh, it's really for me, uh, because of my the intention I had, this is there is such a synchronicity. I almost felt like someone was tapping on my shoulder and telling me, Roman, you wanted to read around you know, all the scientific papers on the power of healing, remote healing, etc. And here is Anna. This is a true story. She really did what she did, and it worked. And Anna became a bit of a legend in her family, and she helped her grandmother. And but then she went back onto her PhD and everything. But for me, this moment was a defining moment. And I thought, it's really as if I absorbed everything that I've done so far. And story with Raphael, my kid, who passed away in 2014, led me to this moment where I thought, all right, this is true, this is important, and how come no one knows about it?

SPEAKER_03

No one knows, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so from that moment, the seed of Luminara was planted. I mean, it was I followed the crumbs, as I often say. But this moment was a decisive moment where I thought, all right, I'll go all in and I'm going to study the market. Like, first of all, how do healers uh find clients? Who are these healers? I had, believe it or not, Gabriella, I had not done a single Reiki session. I know you've done Reiki, and that was an important moment. This is how you managed to find the book that really shifted your life. So it did, yes, yeah. I had no clue about any of the. I mean, I had I knew a friend who was doing Reiki, but I had not experienced this myself. I knew it existed, but I was blown away. Like Mayo Clinic is proposing Reiki in integrative oncology. Like, I discovered that this was not yet mainstream, but it was on the on the text of being is there.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I remember I read a book, I think it was Dr. Joe Dispense's book. Don't cover me in the comments if I'm incorrect. But the book started with this telling about this woman who had all these types of cancers that she had like multiple that she couldn't heal. She had issues with like these blisters that kept appearing. Like she'd so many immune disorders. And then she just said, Fuck it, I'm not taking my medicine anymore. And just started, and she got she just started meditating. That's what she prioritized. She dropped all the pills and drugs, and that was what healed her. That was what brought her back, living in alignment. So it's just crazy, these stories that are out there.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Yes. And it's, I mean, we've been pill-driven so much. Yes. Let's let's just caveat. Sometimes you you may need a pill. Oh, yeah. Let's just make sure. Don't stop whatever is described.

SPEAKER_03

It does a lot for us.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but it's true that you know, there are there right now, what we're talking about is called a complementary uh type of medicine. Yeah. Because, you know, there is a Western, and then this this is complementary. Truth is, it can be more than just complementary. Now, it's complementary because of, you know, for legal reasons and and because you want to also make sure there is harmony, and and that's fine. But the power of energy healing and all these modalities, and Reiki is one of them, which is great because it it's a brand name that is famous now, is so powerful in so many ways. And the beauty is that it works remotely, which is mind-blowing.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, and that's what Luminara is.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. So, what we are, who we are, we're a talent agency, we're not a marketplace. So we're highly curating every single healer on the platform, and we have we're a telehealth company. So think about us like the future of clinics, okay. Clinics of the 21st century, where you can access amazing healing, and it's great for trauma, depression, anxiety, uh, chronic pain, all the pain um that are linked to cancer treatments. So these uh ailments have been proven um, you know, uh, I mean, there's a great rate of success using uh energy healing to help reduce the pain or to just help reduce um the the consequences of all these ailments.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So Luminara matches you, the client, with an energy healer that you they that is signed with your agency and you think is fit.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. Okay. So we use a bit of AI to do the matching, but most importantly, what we do is we curate great healers. And we have many in the US, we have some in Europe, some in Canada. Um, and the point is we want uh energy healing to become mainstream. And in order to do that, you need to create uh a place of trust for people to find access to energy healing. Right now, you may know someone, Gabriella, who needs maybe an energy healing session. And so you're gonna recommend someone you know. So this is word of mouth, right? And this is good, and this will always stay. But the point is, this doesn't scale fast, you know? Your friend is lucky to have you who knows someone, who knows someone, etc. This is cool. But also the Reiki healer or whoever healer you know may not be the best for your friend, it could be someone else. So, what we're doing is a is a house, is a clinic where people can access these great healers. They're all equally great, and we don't have a rating system, they're all amazing. Now, this one healer may be more fit for you at this very time of your life rather than for me and for your friend, etc. So the idea here is we produce, we're a producer, we're that's why I call ourselves the talent agency. We do these videos, we look for uh videographers all around the world and we film the healers the same way you as an actress, you have a book, you know, and you show this to you know to get hired. Well, we film them, and then as a user, you'll be able to see a great uh quality, like masterclass sort of quality, you see. Um, and this gives you a first idea of okay, I I love this healer. I want to, I I feel a connection. And then you can have a discovery call if you like, or you can just go for a full-on session.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. You know, that's brilliant because there have been times where I've tried so many different Reiki healers in Los Angeles. I have one in New York that I love, but I've tried so many different ones in Los Angeles. And there's been a couple times I haven't found one that I want to stick with consistently yet. And there was one in particular who I found that had the greatest ratings and everything. And then the day after our session, something really bad happened to me. So I'm like, I don't think that we were a fit. So I love Illuminara. I think it's brilliant that there is a place you can go to rather than just Googling where you can see healers' work and decide, hey, that one's curated to me. I actually want to talk to this one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, and the beauty is also that, I mean, I remember, I'll never forget actually this. When we did the um um the study, the market study, there was this gentleman from LA uh that we interviewed to know about, you know, he was a client, he was uh enjoying Reiki sessions in LA. And I remember what he said, he said, Oh, you know, I love my healer in LA, and I go see my healer, but the moment I go back home in the traffic, I almost feel like everything is vanishing. It is so long. This is so freaking long. And and so that was interesting because he said, Oh my god, that's great. Because I love my healer and I want to stick to my healer sometimes, but because your platform will be remote, I'd be happy to have a session at 9 p.m. in LA, and that requires to have a healer in Hawaii who's awake, right? Well, that's what we provide. So we have healers from all around the world, and therefore you can have a healing session, like a brilliant session from the comfort of your home without all the trouble of going physically to the place, yeah, going back. And yeah, so that's super helpful for even people like you who love a healer. You could still find great healers with Luminara.

SPEAKER_03

That's brilliant. And I love what you said about wanting energy healing to become more mainstream because there are definitely people I know who I'm like, oh, you would really benefit from some of this stuff. But it because it's not mainstream, it's you know, woo-woo, they roll their eyes, like they it's not something they would actually do. So I I'm so with you. I'm like, let's make this mainstream. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It deserves to be. The truth is, you have a lot of athletes, stars, actresses, actors who have energy healing. They know this is an edge. This is really good for having a balanced life because we all have an energetic body, and very few of us are aware of it. And so, why would only these people have access to energy healing? So I really wanted to democratize to make this super easy for everyone to afford as well. So we're looking not just at great healers, but also affordable healers. So the price point would go between$80 to$200, around$200 max. Because also this is a very affordable healer. It is affordable. And in one session, because these practices are very effective, even with one session, uh, you get a lot of benefit, a lot for your bucks. Yeah, for a very decent um price, or as we say, energy exchange, because money is I like that.

Trauma As A Catalyst For Change

SPEAKER_03

It is money, money is energy, and people don't always remember that, but it is. Now, I wanted to talk a little bit about you, this came to you because of the passing of your son. What do you think it is that makes trauma awaken people who can be very logic-based, or they're just caught up in, you know, the life that we're all caught up in and the frivolous things that distract all of us? What do you think it is about a bottoming out experience that awakens you to this type of world?

SPEAKER_00

Well, first of all, I, you know, I I listened to many of your of your own story. Thank you. Uh your podcast. And and as you yourself discovered, and look where we are, trauma is a blessing in disguise. Uh it is hard. It is hard. Let's face it, it is hard, and it can destroy you or it can uplift you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But trauma is really a blessing in disguise. Like it's a moment where the divine is telling you now, you have a chance to change your life. Um and and and you can make it a lot more luminous because you'll get over it, or you'll just get drowned by it. And it's really when you think about it, you know, we're not humans having a spiritual experience. We're souls. Souls, how human experience and when you think this way, because otherwise, if you don't think this way, maybe listeners will think, oh, trauma? No, that's shit. Like, I don't want a trauma. Like, you don't want to have, you know, any of that. And I understand, like, and you have so many, especially with kids, you have so horrible, horrible, traumatic experience that you think no one deserves this. Yes. Of course, no one deserves this. But when you get out of this trauma, and I had a dinner recently with someone who had like terrible, terrible like things from his uh childhood with his parents and stuff like that. I mean, really, when you listen to this, you feel why? How how unfair. But he managed to to get over it, and now you feel how how beautiful he is, and how he elevated his soul to a next level. So it's really, if you think this way, it's more like the soul is given a way to experience, to grow, and to to to access to a higher level of consciousness.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I think it's that basically echoing that, it's that when you lose everything, you finally are listening to everything, because everything that you thought you had, you don't have anymore. So you finally are listening to like what else is out there, and you finally notice things that maybe you didn't notice before. And I thought what you said about the silence is be that it was beautiful. It's in the silence that we find things a lot of the times because you can only hear energy. Yes. You can only hear if you're quiet. Now, another thing that I wanted to talk to you about was so often the people who you know say this is woo-woo, it's high success, successful on paper in individuals who, you know, are very go, go, go, go, go. And they are often the people who are the most empty inside and the most out of touch with what actually matters because they're so caught up in the movement of life and everything that's going around them. They have a lot on their shoulders, a lot to manage. What would you say to these people who feel like they just are too busy to slow down?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I don't know if they will listen to me.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's that is a very true question, but but if they would, you know, why are you so busy?

SPEAKER_00

Like, what are you trying to escape from?

SPEAKER_03

What are you trying to escape?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. What are you trying to escape from? Because if you're creating this very, very busy life around yourself, what is exactly the thing you don't want to hear? What is exactly the deep reason, the root causes of this noise? Because you're creating this noise. So I would I would ask them the question like, why do you put yourself into this noise? And there is probably a reason deep down. Now, whether they want to see that or not, it's a different story. Yeah, I you cannot, you know, as you know, Gabriella, you cannot change people. People change themselves.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

That's is the one big learning in life. Like you try so much to change your friends, and you can see things happening, but you just can't.

SPEAKER_03

It's a hard thing to learn because with kids.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, with kids, I can't.

SPEAKER_00

You can see them hitting the wall, but they have to hit the wall.

SPEAKER_03

They have to figure it out by themselves, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I would say that I would I would probably ask a couple of questions to maybe let them go inwards to think about why am I creating this noise around me?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, okay, that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00

Don't follow any gurus and don't you know ever listen to someone who's telling you to follow him or follow her. The real master is the one telling you to look inwards.

SPEAKER_03

They first of all, I wanted to say thank you so much for all your complimentary words. And I'm I'm happy that both of us, with our experiences of trauma, we sort of decided to elevate our lives rather than stay down. Um, even though that it in some ways it would have been easier to stay down, but we both, but it also is a lot. This is harder, but it's also a lot easier. We had no choice. We had no choice. We had no choice. That's what my um that's what my friend Alyssa and I talked about in the recent episode about what not to say.

SPEAKER_00

You were not texting.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, whenever exactly, like whenever people are saying, oh my god, I couldn't have done that. It's like I didn't really have another option. So you could have done it as well if you didn't have another option. But what I was gonna say is what I wanted to ask you about is sometimes the people who are the most disconnected and the most from energy and from how that's important to their healing and their soulful experience. Sometimes the people that are most disconnected are the people that are the most successful and present like they've won the most to the outside world. Why do you think that would be?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it comes down to me about our definition of success.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Yes, yes. We have a very on-paper success.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. I mean, it is a question around, you know, what is success? Because I think that when we will look back at the at the end of our life, uh, you know, was my life any good? We'll look at how many people have we loved? You know, have I given enough love? I had a time on this planet to give love. Did I give enough love? Because I had infinite love. So the companies you've built, that's good. The legacy you will leave, that's good. But ultimately, I think success to me is not defined by just how many houses you have, how many you know, millions you've made or billions. It's really about how did you manage to, you know, to give the world a, you know, how did you leave the world a a better place, a more peaceful, kinder place? I am not very much impressed by any billionaire that wouldn't use money to uh to make something good. And as we said, yeah, money is energy.

SPEAKER_03

It's energy, yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00

First of all, how did you get how did you make this money?

SPEAKER_03

And I and if you're hoarding it, you're hoarding the energy, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like you're not gonna be buried with your money. No, let's face it.

SPEAKER_03

I don't want to be the richest corpse in the graveyard. My friend Emily always says that like who cares?

SPEAKER_00

And and so, yeah, and money can be a very good thing, but can be also destroying you because it's it's about your ego, right? The more successful you are, the more you may lose your ego and and make it like you think you deserve all of this. Truth is there is if in any one success, you have a chance of luck, like financial, physical like manifesting. You have a chance of luck. Like if we if we forget about this, uh, we've been lucky. Yes, there is work, there is energy, but there is luck as well. And so I'm yeah, why are they what what yeah? What is successful? Sorry, I'm no, you wait. I didn't answer your question.

SPEAKER_03

You did, you did, you did answer. You did answer. You answered beautifully. But I was that's so agree with that that I think the goal of life is to leave the earth a little bit better than you found it. That's the goal that you put in more good energy than you take.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

So if you have all this and you're not really benefiting anyone but yourself, you're just take. You're not you're not giving. And I think your son, he gave so much. He was only here for a short time, but he gave so much because he gave the creation of this, which is going to help so many people.

SPEAKER_00

I so much agree. I I'm co-creating with him. Yes, yes, is my co-founder. Your co-founder, he's my co-founder.

SPEAKER_03

He in a lot of ways, yes. I mean, he is, he is your co-founder, which is like absolutely just so brilliant. And I love because it's beautiful to know that you leave a legacy, and he's left a he was only here for such a short time, but he left such a legacy.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, his soul crushed on my path. I was in a for 16 years, I was in a very classic corporate career in consulting, successful by the you know, on paper successful. Um but I wasn't aligned. Yeah, I think deep inside I I was, you know, I I care a lot about making the world, as we said, a better place and a kinder, more peaceful place. And I had this from a very, very early, you know, as long as I remember, I've I've prayed uh the divine to be, I was raised in a Catholic environment, and I was praying God um for using me as an instrument of peace. You know, there is Saint Francis d'Assisi, you know, okay, who's saying, you know, please, you know, use me as an instrument of peace. And I was very much drowned by these these words, and I was praying, like, please, please, God, use me as an instrument of peace. And then I ended up doing this corporate career, and then Raphael just crashed, and that slowly just drifted me away from this classic corporate career.

SPEAKER_03

And now you're an instrument of peace again.

SPEAKER_00

I am, yeah, and and I will never change this. No, I I'm not going back.

SPEAKER_03

No, exactly. It's like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not going back to you.

SPEAKER_00

Not going back to Gabriella 1.0.

SPEAKER_03

No, I'm Gabriela 1.0. You have a blessing. I'm revisioned that's fun. I'm not going back to her. Now, something that I think is very interesting to talk about is, you know, I have the same perspective as you, that ultimately traumatic experiences are kind of a gift. They ultimately are a blessing. Um, and I've been asked the question a lot if you could go back and put stop the accident, would you? And for a while I said no, because I'm in a better place than I am now. And then I was like, maybe that's a little bit of toxic positivity talking. These past several years have been terrible. But then I back to thinking about it, I really like the person that I am today. And I really like what I'm bleeding into the world today. And I don't know if I would have ever gotten there if this traumatic accident happened to me. Um, so you kind of with the same sort of mindset, you know, when you say that trauma is a blessing to people who haven't experienced trauma, they'll be in disguise, in disguise.

SPEAKER_00

It's not easy.

SPEAKER_03

It's not easy. It's not easy. But when you say trauma is a blessing in disguise to people who haven't been through trauma, they might be like, or people who have been through trauma, but they're still living in that bottom out, they might just be like, What are you talking about? So, how would you explain that trauma? I I know your answer, but how would you explain that trauma did become a blessing and is helping unite the world and elevate consciousness?

SPEAKER_00

I think it's uh it's Gabor Mate, right? Who's explaining quite well what trauma is.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And and trauma is, you know, is not you. Like you, you, you have a trauma given to you. Now it's really what you make of what you make of it, yeah. Exactly. Like the trauma isn't you, it is something and it's an experience. It can be very physical, very emotional, emotional, whatever it is, um, that like is thrown like life is giving this to you.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And you don't have a choice, right? No, we don't have a choice. I mean, yeah, you may argue some people like get into the trauma by themselves. Yeah, yeah, you know, some people do that. Um, but sometimes just like like it's a car, it's a baby that's born with uh an issue, like whatever. Now, what do you do with this trauma? Yeah, right? You have it, you have it. So do you want to continue living with it? How do you make sense of it? Like, so I think this is what it's all about. Like, you have this now. First of all, don't think this is you. This is a trauma given to you, but this is not you, you are not the trauma.

SPEAKER_03

Trauma, you're not the trauma, you're not the trauma.

SPEAKER_00

And when you know that, then you can you can do something. Okay, I have this trauma. What do I do with it? You could ask the why. Like, why do I have this trauma? What is the message, right? What is the message from the divine? Yeah, but then explore. My my my piece of advice is here is explore why did you get this trauma? Okay, you have to be a bit spiritual, thinking, okay, things happen for a reason. Yeah, right. If you don't think this way, you just think this is horrible, it doesn't make sense, and it doesn't make sense. Like, why are you not your neighbor? Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. Why me not why not all my friends have this? Well, that's it. It is. Life is like this. You were born in this family rather than this other family. Why? You don't know. No, you got this trauma for so this is. I think again, you look inward, like, what is it what can you make out of it? Yes, and I don't have an answer for everyone, but think about what you can make, and you can make something beautiful. So it's a material, yes. It's like it's a piece of, think about it like a piece of wood or a a stone, and you can carve the stone. You know, from a stone, you can make something amazing out of it. That's your choice.

AI Anxiety Burnout And The Need For Love

SPEAKER_03

Yes, beautiful. Now, so many people suffer from burnout. And I know Luminara, one of the things that Luminara is good for is people that suffer from burnout.

SPEAKER_02

That's right.

SPEAKER_03

And I have a question. This might be a little, I don't know. Go for it. But having the long corporate career, a lot of people who are involved in corporate careers are people that have burnout. So, was that what inspired a little bit the creation of Luminara?

SPEAKER_00

I never actually thought about that, but um yes, I mean, definitely if I look back, you know, if we look back 10 years ago, was mental health a thing?

SPEAKER_03

Not really.

SPEAKER_00

Not really, right? Yeah, so but now every company is talking about mental health, and you have you know, telehealth companies, like you know, many of them that now uh have success. And now it's not a stigma anymore to say to friends, well, I have a mental problem, like even ADHD, and you know, a lot of people have now come to the fact that they're newer divergent, and yeah, autism is not anymore something that is on the fringe, like actually, even the percentage of people having autism, like some degrees, of course, is is much more uh important thanks to the city. Because we finally know more about it, and people are more willing to say like exactly society is more accepting people being neurodivergent, yeah. And so burnout, um, yeah. I think it's well, I was talking recently, we need to talk about AI. Okay, let's talk about AI because AI is gonna create the largest burnout the world has ever seen.

SPEAKER_03

Really? Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's gonna be societal burnout.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, see, I'm confused about that because I would think AI it kind of it takes stuff off humans' plate. Why do you think it's gonna create burnout?

SPEAKER_00

Well, first of all, AI is okay, there are two things. It's gonna create anxiety and burnout. Okay, so burnout for the people that will stick, that will not be fired, but it will create anxiety and a sort of burnout in the sense that people will look for jobs, right? It's gonna be you've seen this already in the US a lot. Like you have companies firing people by the thousands. Because AI, yeah. Because of AI. And so, okay, you you may not call it burnout exactly, but anxiety at a high level, like mental issues at a very, very high level. And so what I'm trying to say here is that Luminara wasn't exactly created for that originally, and the story is more linked to my, you know, this whole story with Raphael and these synchronicities. But you think to yourself, why me? Why at this time on this planet? You know, there is a reason, like an underneath reason. And I I'm more and more convinced that facing the massive issues, mental issues, and and stress we're gonna see in society, energy healing, and Luminara is a great vehicle for people to find energy healers, energy healing is gonna become mainstream because of AI, or thanks to AI.

SPEAKER_03

Or thanks to AI, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because when you lose your job, when you you kind of feel you're gonna lose your job, because a lot of people now are afraid, right? And they don't dare saying to their friends they're afraid because their friends are also afraid. And what are you gonna do at society level? Well you you won't go for a top therapy, like you may, but you don't have a child trauma to cure, you don't, you just have this deep anxiety because of society and and your job. And so you're gonna need to feel seen, to feel loved, to feel energized. And this is what energy healing is providing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because also a lot of times there are people who they say talk therapy doesn't work for them just because they're probably not good at articulating what it is that's going on with them, or they they can't really put a word to what it is that they're feeling, or just not everyone's a verbal person. So I think the whole concept of energy healing is like a nice way to sort of offer that holistic healing for people without being like you have to talk about everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I think, as you said, the the fact is that you won't talk so much about okay, I fear AI, this is gonna take my job away. This is gonna all right, that's it. It's said, like you don't have much more to say, but then it's just like okay, okay. So help me. Yeah, um, talk about your childhood. No, really, I don't it's not, it's just like right now, I feel like angst, I feel like uh I feel anxious, I feel upset, I feel, and then there's no what there's help me, yes, help me. Help me, what do you do? The future seems grim. Yeah, what do I do? What do I tell my kids? What you know, I'm a I'm a parent of two uh boys, and right now a lot of parents are thinking, what do we tell our kids to do? Yeah, and even I've heard even some people who thought about having kids who are deep into AI and think, I'm not sure I want kids. You know, my can you believe this is happening?

SPEAKER_03

My own father. Says to me, he's like, if I was your age living in like what you're currently living in, he goes, I don't think I'd have kids. My own father said that to me. And like, my father loves me, he's a great dad. But talking about everything that's going on in the world right now, he's like, I honestly don't know if growing up how in the current way that people grow up, like kids is a good idea. It's people are a little scared.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Or very scared, I should say.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. So, okay, so what do we do? Because AI is here to stay, right? We're we're gonna, well, we're seeing some hopefully regulations coming up to for for to avoid like chaos.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But anyway, this is here to stay, and so we need to have, you know, in face of fear, what's the remedy?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, what's the remedy?

SPEAKER_00

Love.

SPEAKER_03

Love, it's always love.

SPEAKER_00

It's always love, has always been. And it's by the way, it's the same coin, it's just two sides of the same coin. But the more fear there is, and there is a lot of fear that's gonna um increase, you need more love. And so who are the love providers right now? Well, uh you could find love in religions, but a lot more people are are increasingly spiritual but not religious. Yes, the the spirit, the religion of no religion, you know, as as we call it. This is growing, this is growing so fast. And so, what do you do for this massive amount of people? Well, energy healing is, I believe, these healers, these light workers, are a very non-religious way to get your regular, weekly, daily, monthly dose of love, of positive energy that is of course healing a lot at the physical level, mental level, emotional, and energetic level.

SPEAKER_03

And is that what you needed after Raphael? And so you want to give that to other people?

SPEAKER_00

Definitely, yes.

Science Proof Partnerships And Listener Discount

SPEAKER_03

Okay, that's beautiful. All right, well, last things. Yes. Let's what's next for Luminara, or what do you recommend that listeners check out about Luminara?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'll offer a discount coupon to all the listeners.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, amazing!

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'll offer 20% discount.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

We take a commission of 15%. Okay. So we won't get, you know, everything will be for the healers. Amazing. We don't we don't cut the pricing on the healers. Uh I mean that we don't cut the what we give to the healers, but I mean. Uh, what's next? Well, it is exciting. Everything is is exciting right now. So we're partnering with an organization which is funding science around energy healing.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, that was actually one of my questions for you about the science and energy healing, how it's related.

SPEAKER_00

So we are partnering with I would one could argue the largest uh uh organization fundations uh on the planet, they're American, uh, that are funding science around energy healing, and they are producing a docuseries called Phenomena. So I'm sure you can put the link on the podcast. I definitely will. Phenomenahealing.com. Okay. And by the way, Luminara is luminara.care.

SPEAKER_03

Uh and so that link will also be in the show notes.

SPEAKER_00

And so what's exciting is that so these people are funding science with very large American universities, proving that energy healing works. It is not just placebo, it is super effective. Yes, and there is some groundbreaking experiences, protocols that they've put. I'll give you an example, like a little preview. It's you know, oftentimes you have uh like a Reiki healer that would do something on a human, right? And you think, oh, but you know, this is placebo because we know the relationship, you know, you think you're gonna heal, so you're gonna heal. Well, okay, okay, fine, fine, I get it. And placebo, by the way, is amazing. Yes. Now you do this at the cellular level. So you put cells in a in a dish, you know, on a in a lab, and you have some cancerous cells inside those dish. So cancerous cells would attack the the sane cells. Well, you have a healer right here that will uh push away and reduce the uh uh amount of cancerous cells inside every single dish. Well, there is no, it's really at the cellular level.

SPEAKER_03

It is, it is! I'm so happy that we're talking about this.

SPEAKER_00

So, this is this is no placebo.

SPEAKER_03

This is what we could show to all the logic people who think it's woo-woo.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I mean, this and this is like this is properly tested, and so this docu series will show that. And they were looking obviously at partners, at places to give access for people to enjoy than trying for themselves, like a good energy healing session.

SPEAKER_03

And that's Luminara, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And and to be honest with you, um, I created Luminar with you know a lot of care and joy. But when this organization uh contacted us and tried us, and they tried many platforms, we're the only one that they wanted to partner with.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's incredible, that is amazing, and that's because Luminar was born out of love.

SPEAKER_00

It was born out of yes, I mean, there is such a pure intention, and they could feel it. And they, I mean, they they know me by now, and I'm friends with them. But it's it's beautiful, and and I you know, I feel a lot of gratitude and joy because the everything you build, and every listener should know this. Everything you build, the core is your intention. Have integrity, have beauty, integrity, and and enjoy, and you know, do something good for the world. Make it a business, make it an NGO, whatever you do. But if your intention is good, you're gonna see the the this this gonna work out.

SPEAKER_03

Pure intentions always play out, and that that can very much be for a business. It can very it can very much be for anything, but just if it's grounded in a pure intention, it will it's supported by the universe because it's an act of service, and acts of service are always supported, and Luminara is an act of service. Oh my god, amazing!

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, so the future is yeah, they're releasing the docuseries soon. Okay, we're the partner, and so yeah, and so we're we're in this together with these uh organizations to make energy healing mainstream and we will help doing this.

Where To Find Luminara And Raphael Thanks

SPEAKER_03

Energy healing mainstream, that's the goal. And I'll put the link in the show notes to luminara.care and phenomena healing. Um, is there any place else? I know there's Instagram that you guys have. Is there any place else you want people to check you out?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we have an Instagram account, illuminara.care, uh, Facebook as well.

SPEAKER_03

And all will be in the show notes. Yeah. Yes. Okay, amazing. And is there anything that you would like to say on behalf of Raphael before you leave?

SPEAKER_00

Well, thank you, Raphael. Um, my co-founder. I love you. I love also my two other son, uh, Darius and James. Uh you guys are important too. And my wife, Baldish. And and thank you. Thank you, Gabriela.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you for coming. I'm so happy that you were only here for a few days. You're visiting from Paris and you made time for me. So thank you so much. I'm so glad we got to meet. This is incredible. All right, guys. Well, again, in the show notes, there will be all the links to Luminara, including the discount. Yes, this is yeah, we'll put the discount people. Including the discount, which is absolutely incredible. Thank you so much for being here. This has been Gabriella Rebranded, win most loose.

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