Intrinsically Ordered
Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.
Intrinsically Ordered
Is the Latin Mass Really Saving the Catholic Church? (w/ Kevin Nontradicath)
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What if the Latin Mass isn’t the magic solution everyone online says it is?
In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with Kevin Non-Trad, who was literally born into an FSSP Latin Mass community, went to the parish school in the church basement, prayed the rosary in Latin, and watched his childhood classmates quietly drift away from the faith. I come from the opposite direction: a suburban Novus Ordo kid who dove head-first into trad YouTube, daily rosaries, and Latin Mass as the supposed answer to the Church’s crisis—only to leave Catholicism anyway.
00:00 Kevin's Background in the Latin Mass
05:15 Retention Rates and Realities
07:05 Challenges and Critiques of the Traditionalist Movement
18:31 Liturgical Anecdotes
18:58 Why People Convert
21:46 Challenges and Criticisms of Latin Mass
25:06 The Human Connection to Rituals and Music
26:32 The Complexity of Faith and Personal Beliefs
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