Pulpit to the Pew

Dear Diary, I Plead The Fifth

Shawn Brumfield

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A presidential pardon plus a personal “diary” plus 111 Fifth Amendment answers is the kind of combo that makes people stop trusting everything they are told. We jump into the latest claims around Dr. Fauci, why someone would keep written records in the first place, and why the hearing optics matter even when legal technicalities get messy. We also talk about Congress, attorneys trying to speak for witnesses, and why public accountability feels impossible when money and power sit behind closed doors.

From there, we pull back to the bigger picture: American politics as a spectacle, leaders staying in office for decades, and what it does to a country when citizens feel mocked instead of represented. We connect that frustration to the internet, media pressure, and the way people can turn brutal when there is no real accountability. That flows into parenting, consequences, and how “gentle” approaches can accidentally raise adults who expect boundaries to bend for them.

We close with a practical, real-world thread on prisons, cycles of poverty, and the constant argument between personal responsibility and broken systems. Then we hit socialism and government-run solutions, healthcare profit incentives, and why insurance and hospital billing can feel like a rigged maze. Stick around for the palate cleanser too: our word of the day “wittershins” and a run of driver’s ed stories that somehow say a lot about life. Subscribe, share this with a friend, leave a review, and tell us what topic hit closest to home for you.

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Cold Open And Introductions

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I almost joked. I started. I was literally ready to cough when you started the music. Welcome back, everybody.

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Brother Jonathan's body's about to be put to rest. From whatever he was drinking earlier. Arrest. Something like that. But I'm your host, Brother Sean Brumfield.

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Have we had a clean intro in like Yeah, we did last week. We did? Yeah. Yeah, last week was good. Alright, cool then. Never mind. Sorry. Yeah. Continue with your intro. Yeah, please quit interrupting me. I appreciate that.

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Just kidding. Smile for the camera. Next is uh I just realized that I looked towards the camera. You didn't just look, you're like staring at it.

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He totally locked eyes with all of our listeners. Actually, this would be viewers. Sorry. That's completely different. It would be. Yeah.

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I just love that the music's still playing.

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So, but anyways, this is this is Brother Jonathan Mitchell here. Hi. Brother Ryan's here. Howdy, owdy. And so is Brother Nathan.

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Hello.

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What's happening? Not much.

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Shame on, shame on.

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We always say we're going to do that part, we never do. But, anyways, yeah.

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I don't think we ever let the music play that long.

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That's the longest I've ever heard it play.

Fauci Diary Claims And Pardon

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So, what do you guys think about Dr. Fauci having a diary? And why would you be stupid enough to keep a diary?

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I didn't even know he had a diary. I didn't.

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I thought he said he had diarrhea. That's the whole reason why he's being tried.

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Yeah.

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Or he went, well, at this time he's been through trial. By now we'll know whether or not they hold him in contempt of court.

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I don't know anything going on with the Fauci thing.

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He's the dude has a diary that was like basically just completely talking about how all that whole COVID stuff was fake and all that stuff.

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Is that like the Epstein files except for Fauci? Is it the Fauci files?

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It's it's his personal diary. Yeah. Okay, if you're gonna do something guilty, why in the world would you sit down and and write it in a book like that?

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That's the thing that makes it sound suspicious.

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I know. I'm still but the dude's like, okay, so here's the deal. He's been completely pardoned. 100%. That's something Biden did. And now we're gonna get on the soapbox here. If he didn't do anything illegal, why in the world would he have to have a a pardon, a presidential pardon? This is just in case you get in trouble. Okay.

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And quite literally, that's basically what he said when he said it.

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Like, yes, because Trump's gonna come in and he's gonna try to because everything he did was illegal. I don't know nothing about it. I think I should have done more research.

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A h a million dollars in cash just from like federal workers like giving prizes or stuff.

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So he is he's presidentially pardoned, and they're st they're investigating him and all this stuff. They can't they can't do anything as far as like federally because he's been pardoned for all that. So all this stuff that they're grilling him about, they can't they can't do anything. But it will it can cause like I guess lawsuits on the lower level side of the courts. Civil side. Yeah, civil side. It's like a OJ thing and stuff like that. But so he's presidentially pardoned, they get his own writings, and from what I'm understanding, it's been verified that it is his own personal writings and ledger or whatever it is. So he stands before Congress in this hearing, and a hundred and eleven times they answer he answers, I have been basically in the gist. I'm gonna take the advice of my counsel, I plead the fifth. And that they keep saying, You can't plead the fifth because you're presidentially pardoned. You're it doesn't apply to you. The one senator was so aggravated with him, he was like, What's the color of the carpet in this room? And if you watch the video, he looks up and you almost think he's gonna get an answer. He looks at the carpet and then he looks back down, says the same thing 111th times, and has to read it from his notes. I basically I'm gonna plead the fifth. What's the color of the carpet? I plead the fifth. What color is the tie that you're wearing? I plead the fifth.

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And this is the guy who's saved everybody's lives. No, he killed millions of people. I understand that, but what I'm saying is this is the guy that they pushed to save everybody's lives. Oh, well, no, no. That's what I'm saying. I'm not I know he killed a bunch of people.

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Yeah. So I was being sarcastic. What makes it even better is Senator Rand Paul was they they you know, they're addressing Dr. Fauci. And Senator Rand Paul, I can't even remember what he asked him, but

Pleading The Fifth In Congress

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he asked Dr. Fauci something to which Can we just call him Fauci?

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Because I don't really think he's a doctor.

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He's well, I mean, he's got his doctorate. I mean, that's that's legit. He's a he's a legit doctor. I don't know a doctor of what, but he does have his doctorates. So his lawyer starts answering on his behalf. And Senator Rampau goes, I'm sorry, sir, you were not addressed. We are addressing Fauci. You have nothing to say. And goes back, and every time Senator Rampall tries to talk to Fauci, his lawyer keeps trying to interrupt to the point to where Senator Rampall had his lawyer completely removed from the hearing.

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One of them, yeah. Wow. He had like six of them, they were sitting on the row, like right behind him. Yeah. And he told him, he said, Dude, I told you not to sit there. And then he was like, I told you you can confer with him at any time. Like he can turn around and talk to his lawyers before answering a question. This guy insisted on sitting at the thing, held him in contempt, got him thrown out.

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And so now, well, at the time of recording, why as we're recording this, the next week, which is the week of our homecoming, they're going to vote as to whether or not Fauci is going to be held in contempt of court because he would not at all answer any of his questions. And he took the fifth, which he wasn't even.

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Why would you take the fifth? I just don't understand.

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Just answer get in trouble for anything. He couldn't get in trouble for anything, but the fifth was crazy.

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Well, why are they I guess if he can't get in trouble, I this is like just to be devil's advocate. Is it just to gain information, or why are they even trying, or why are they even doing anything?

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Because it's getting the truth out there. Okay. I mean, that's really what it is. At the end of the day, Fauci made millions, he became a millionaire off of COVID. Yeah, all of them did. Like, like that was his that was his deal. This dude put all of this stuff in play. The masks, even though he knew they didn't work. The the social distancing. Social distancing, the vaccines, even though that's been proven. I can't tell you how many people I and and don't get me wrong, to me a vaccination is something that eradicates the disease, right? But they keep liking it like a flu shot. The flu shot is just something to help you fight it or or can help you not get it expressed. It's an immunization.

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It's susceptible to it. Immunization.

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Yeah.

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It's completely different than that.

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Right. All of this stuff, like it's been proven, and all of this stuff was done. He made millions of dollars. The World Health Organization is crooked. I mean, the guy that's over the World Health Organization or is part of the World Health Organization isn't even a doctor.

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Well, I mean, there's there's no there's no cap on big pharma. So the pharmaceutical country companies, I think, are the worst companies in the entire world.

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While he is while he is presidentially pardoned, they're just basically trying to hold his feet to the fire, right?

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Well, isn't basically pleading the fifth admitting you're guilty without anyone.

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No, pleading the fifth gives you the right to not incriminate yourself in any level.

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But he's not he but he can't be incriminated because he's a part that's what they're saying.

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That's what the whole point of them saying is you can't.

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Can't they just release his diary or whatever the ledger or whatever? I don't I don't know if it's been released or not. Because uh that would be that would just be like there's the truth in it all there.

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I just have this really funny picture in my mind.

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Dear diary.

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I convinced the entire nation that wearing a mask is exactly what goes through like hee, you know, love Fauci.

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Me and me and President Biden talked today. He actually held a coherent sentence for like two seconds, and then it went back to La La Land. I then seen him fall down some stairs.

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I'm telling you, man, like with love.

Term Limits And Aging Leadership

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It was it's crazy. It's it's crazy these days anymore.

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Dude, our politics are a freak show.

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Yeah. It's kind of embarrassing.

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Yeah, I would agree. Meanwhile, you got Putin who like marches around and like just commands respect in the room, and then the rest of them are just like then you got Pelosi and Chuck Schumer in a wheelchair, like Connell's in a wheelchair too. Do you see where Andy might be who I'm thinking of?

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Do you see where Andy Bashir, the governor of Texas, called McConnell out?

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Yeah, says he hasn't voted in over 400 different ballots.

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Yeah, he's not been in several different meetings. He's he's all this stuff, all that they know, they've only seen him twice since he's been sick. And so basically, Andy Bashir is like, hey, listen, if you can't serve the people like we voted you to do, you need to resign. You need to get out of there.

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Why are there not I just don't understand why there's not term limits for senators. I'm sorry. Should be.

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There should be. It was never the government was never set for these people to be lifelong things. McConnell's 84 years old. He and he's made millions as a senator. You shouldn't be a a senator making millions of dollars off of the United States.

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Well, it's insider trading. All of it is all of it. It's that's the that's the part that gets on my nerves, is like they're like, we make a $75,000 a year, but I have a four billion dollar house. Haha. Yeah. Smile. I I don't have insider training. No, I don't. Ha ha.

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Idiot. Like Kennedy said, he's saying, I was listening to Show and Tasha. He said a brain is the is the most amazing organism in the body. He said it starts working when you're an infant in the womb or whatever. He said and stops working when you get voted into Congress.

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Did you see where people were like sending celebratory cakes to the Lindsey Graham office where at after his death?

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That makes it mad. Messed up.

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Yeah.

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Like people are sick, dude. We live in such a sick society.

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It's a crazy I mean they did the same thing with Charlie. Yeah. They were so glad to see him him die. It's like Yeah.

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Yeah. It's pretty, pretty crazy.

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It's so gruesome. It is. You know, for being modern society and having all these standards of the way we're supposed to be living, and then you look back and it's like, we're no better than

Barbarism, Media, And Accountability

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the Mongols and stuff like that.

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I can't remember who it was. I maybe Brother Lynn Head. It was a pr a pretty good old time preacher who preached a message up here at a meeting, and he basically dealt with when people go back to the barbaric state.

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Yeah.

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And he talks about, you know, this highly cultured civilization. If you watch how civilizations go, they change as they get more advanced, they become more barbaric. And we're seeing that today. We're supposedly our society is supposed to be, you know, it's supposed to be highly cultured. High, you know, everybody it's supposed to be.

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Well, they riot and pillage and burn things where they're not. Right.

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They go back to a barbaric state.

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It's just in yeah, absolutely, a hundred percent. And I think part of the problem is because of the internet. I think it's an internet thing where people they don't have to be held accountable for what they say.

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It can be. I mean, yeah, oh keyboard warriors is a big deal. I mean, they can get things stirred up, but I think it's m it's beyond just the internet. I think it's more of the power of the media. And because there's too many people, there's no there's no accountability, and so basically you've got this indoctrination that takes place.

Soft Parenting And No Consequences

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And so what you're listening to, what's what's coming in and all that stuff, it guides your way of thinking. And then you go into the school systems and you teach kids that they don't have to respect their parents, and they don't have to re have a respect of authority, and they're taught that you you can't be suppressed, you you show your own individuality and all that stuff, and they take that home. And unfortunately, our parents today have taken this soft parenting point of view, which blows my mind. All you're doing is you're you're cultivating a bad you're gonna make bad humans. Yeah, you're cultivating a place for human society to turn backwards, not move forward.

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You shot Johnny. Well, now why'd you do that and why do you feel that way?

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Yeah.

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Sit in timeout for five minutes.

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Yeah, it's well, it's just it's ridiculous.

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It makes me mad just because a gentle parent basically, I mean, you you're not there's no consequences for what you do. Exactly. And so as you're a child learning, well, I can do whatever I want to, and I don't get any consequences except for a little talking to, then it goes to a teenager who doesn't have any consequences, to an adult who there's no

Prison, Rehabilitation, And Repeat Offenders

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consequences. So I can do whatever I want.

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Well, and then you have that's how you have violent offenders that have been arrested 17 times in the same way.

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They don't they're not really doing anything in prison. They're getting free food, they get free entertainment, they get free gym memberships, all this kind of stuff. Put them to work.

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And and bullying. I mean, and and here's the deal like if if prison is used as it's supposed to, yes, it is you have to basically pay your debt to society, but we can't leave them to where they're not able to go back into society. Like, you do want them to be able to get out and not go back into the lifestyle in which they come in. So I'm not against teaching them a trade or or giving them some sort of what they're doing.

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Make them work for it, but don't they don't get a chill day.

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They don't get days where they just get to sit around and uh Well, the problem is is there's people that they come out of prison and they have all of those things, but they don't want to be out in the real world.

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You're always gonna have that.

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But that's that's but that's the problem is prison should not be a place people want to go back to. You need to be rehabilitated to the point where you don't want to go in there.

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I don't even know if it's necessarily that they want to go back to prison. You're always gonna have people, it's it's the scope of the world over. People are always gonna go back to what the lust of their flesh and stuff like that, because that's what you want to do. Flesh wants to fulfill what it wants to fulfill. That's why the spiritual battle that we have is w we fight that we fight that spiritual battle every day. Salvation isn't a one-time deal. I have to choose to maintain my relationship with Christ.

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Well, it's like you said, I mean, okay, so I go to jail, I have air conditioning, I have a bed, I have meals that I know are gonna happen, and I don't have to do anything. Whereas as soon as I get out, in order to have the air conditioning, the bed, the meals, I have to work when I can go back and get a free workout.

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And that that I do agree with.

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Well, it's not just that, but they're going back into a culture that allows them to do those things. Yeah, they're going to the same habitats, and and that's the the problem, the problem with why we have so much black

Breaking Cycles And Personal Responsibility

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on black violence and and all of the the gangs and stuff that's going on, is they're going right back into the same environment that that made them that way.

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Yeah.

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You know, and then there's there's nothing there to to change that. And to say, because they'll they'll tell you, well, that is systematic racism. It's like, no, that's not at all what it is. It's people not wanting to do better for themselves.

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Yeah. You ever everybody has a choice. When you're an adult, don't get me wrong, some people are born and you almost feel like they don't have hope. The the entire world, the entire society is against them because of their situations that they're born into. But at the end of the day, everybody has that place in their life where they decide, do I want to keep with this or do I want to change my do I want to continue? Everybody can change their Do you want to break the cycle or not? They can. They can break the cycle. That's what I'm saying. Somebody born in a drug addict's home don't have to be a drug addict. Now, obviously, you're more likely to because that's what you're around and that's what you're in, and and it's not necessarily wrong to you. You're not you're not sensitive to it, you're numb to it, exactly. But at the end of the day, you still see the same issues, you still see the same faults, you still see the parents struggling, you still see those same addictions. So you get to a point in your life where you have to make that decision. But there's nothing out there that helps to to help guide those decisions or pull them out.

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And I think part of it's like even from like you were talking about a race thing, but it's not I don't I think it's more of a sis like uh economic. You know, if you're if you were born into the lower of the lower income, it's harder for you to fight out of that, but you can fight out of that. That's what makes America beautiful.

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I don't I don't think anybody said it was race. I think it everybody's saying that it's it's the culture that's there.

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Yeah.

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And when you get into that culture, and when it's like it's like we've shared this story a thousand times about a girl comes up to her mom and her mom cuts a turkey in half, and she puts half of it in one cooker and the other half in another cooker. And the little girl said, Well, mom, why are you cooking this turkey in half? And she goes, Well, you know, I don't really know. It's just when my mom did it. Yeah. And she turns around and she asks her mom, and her mom says, Well, I put it in two cookers because I never had a cooker big enough to hold the first turkey turkey. That's the problem that they're having, is they don't understand why they're in this constant losing battle. It's it's literally the state of insanity of doing the same thing over and over and over again, expecting a different result. And it just doesn't work like that. You just don't get luck that comes in as like, oh voila, it's magic and it works.

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Which proves how amazing the Bible is because even way back then they realized where it talks about a transforming of your mind, it's a mindset. Yeah, and a lot of them will get into mindset, well, my parents did live this way and their grandparents before them, and I'm just so and so, so I'm just gonna live in the same thing, when becomes a mindset of just continuing the tradition. Whereas once you get into that different mindset, you can realize you can regardless of what socioeconomic status. And that's what I'm saying.

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America's amazing because you can, you can get out of that.

Socialism Promises And Government Stores

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That the interesting thing with that mindset is is is that is what you're seeing happen now with the big push for socialism. Is because the mindset is okay, we're stuck in this. You guys need to help us help us. Mom ma momdami, is that his name, Mam Dami Bandani or whatever his name is, he just put out, had a thing not too long ago where they're gonna have a uh five government ran grocery stores, and their prices are gonna be 30% cheaper than the prices of grocery chains, and it's gonna be all government ran. Here's why that doesn't work. These people that are looking at that, they're saying, Well, here's the mindset. That's great because that's that that's how it should be. You should give to us and all this stuff. Well, who's paying for that? Yeah, taxpayers are paying for that. The government's not picking up that 30% bill.

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No. Well, and they've all they've all been like, tax the rich, tax the rich. Yeah, and all the rich has left New York. Yeah. Because and he was saying, You guys won't have to pay any extra taxes and any levies that go through, that'll go straight to the rich. And now he's like, Well, in order for that to happen, we're going to need you guys to give us a lump sums in order to catch back up, because this, that, and then it's like, yeah. And then even the stores you mentioned, when he when he was running, he said, We'll have all these stores up by the beginning of next year. And then he just got up the other the other day, and I said, Well, when are those stores coming to him? He's already been in office a year and a half now. Yeah. And he said, They're coming to you May of 2029. Yeah. And it's like It's because it's not working, it's not gonna work.

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It's not working. Socialism's never working, it's a it's a theory that that turns to communism.

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I see this thing too. Can't work. I seen this thing where they're talking about how going back to race, they were they were like, why all white people do is destroy things. They're never made anything social, you know, anything successful. Not social, but successful. And they were like, Well, what do you want? Well, we want socialism. They're like, you know, that was that was made by a white person, and that's definitely the one thing that white people made that doesn't work.

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Yeah, it's a it's like it's a failed idea.

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They said, give us get they're like, it's not. I'm like, then they said, Well, give us countries that that it works in. And they like give it the whole list, and they're like, those are all white people. It was like you've not made any anything like that.

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And well, like their big thing is always universal Medicare. Like, we want government to take care of everything to be free. So I worked used to work in Medicare and insurance, and everyone from Canada would also carry American policies because they were like healthy, I can't get it like if I need to go in for an emergency. Emergency surgery, there's like a three or four month waiting period for me to just get in to see my doctor to start the process to even get the surgery. So they just carry a New York or a Michigan insurance, come down here, get all their medical done here, and then go back and live there. Yeah.

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It it is a crazy, it's a crazy time. It really is.

Healthcare Profits, Pricing, And Insurance Codes

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The only thing that I hate about our I mean, obviously I think our medical system is very flawed. I I mean, obviously, this kind of the basis of the guy that we're talking about this conversation kind of snowballed from our head of basically our head of medicine was crooked and lied and made a bunch of stuff up just for whatever. But like it's I hate that it's a for-profit business. That's the worst part. Because I think like with cancer diagnosis, cancer is too profitable for it to be ever be cured because the pharmaceutical companies make too much money off the chemo, the the the cancer drugs.

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I think they found the cure and just killed the guy off.

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That's I mean that that's just that just keeps happening. I think whenever they find the cure that they just they well, they just or they don't release it because it it makes them too much money. So the fact that it's a for-profit business is my problem with our healthcare system. A hospital should not be a for-profit business.

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Well, the moment that you take it away from it being private or and and to the public is when we we will be in the socialist system. I understand, but as as wicked and corrupted as it is, it's still better than what you're doing.

SPEAKER_05

What they need to do is they need to take it away. They need to not let government shouldn't have any say in it. That's that's been one deal. Government's had too much power. And they need to start holding these insurance companies accountable in some ways.

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And no offensive insurance is the biggest scam.

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Right. Well, no, it isn't.

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It's it's not.

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Don't don't don't start pushing that because it's not figure though, a lot of it is a hospital making again kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies who are more paying into rather than giving them a medication that's going to fix the problem. Now we need to tier that. You need to start out at something before you get to the medicine that we know is going to fix the problem. Start out with some of these other medications that may fix the problem. They're a little cheaper for us, or we maybe don't get as many kickbacks, but then eventually we might give you what you actually need.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, insurance is not the problem. My problem with the problem is that when you go to the hospital, they have 80 billion different things that they could code your visit for. And that's the problem. They don't have a universal coding system to where it's straightforward. And when you get into that, that's when you start getting into territories where insurance companies are like, this isn't covered because it's not under something so specific to where it's universal.

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Yeah.

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And not just that, but when a hospital can charge you $40 for a bottle of water or for Tylenol.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that that's insane.

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Again, I've seen all those claims coming through. I mean, some of the medications, it was not uncommon for me to open up a claim for one hospital visit and be over a million dollars for like two or three days.

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It's insane. And if you're persistent enough and working with your insurance company, they will, for the most part, they will need it to be.

SPEAKER_01

Like you said, the I the the medical codes pay a big thing in the hospital doesn't care and just throws a code. That's a general code. When they could code it different and get it a different code that is covered, it's the same thing they did.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Because here's the thing. I worked in Medicare as well before I got into this type of insurance. And they would do a thing that that's called a coverage determination. And what it is, is that it is a written reason from your doctor and all the things that could go wrong if you don't have this medication. And then there are things that you you do have to take steps to say, well, I'll try the generic first, I'll try this. Because what they're trying to say is why would we pay for you to have a ten thousand dollar medication if you're not willing to at least try some of this cheaper stuff first? And I get that to get that. And and that's the whole process of getting into trying to understand why it's like that. Because there should not be a medication on this planet that's ten thousand dollars. Over a thousand dollars. Yeah, yeah. I understand that chemotherapy cancer treatments, you know, it's such a specific thing that it is gonna cost more. And obviously, whatever the resource is, uh it should be based off of the cost of making the medicine. Supply and demand should not alter it all that much. You know what I'm saying? Now, I'm if it's an extremely rare thing, I mean that's that that's a given.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's you know what I mean. You you are gonna have rare things that they're just it's not like you have stuff readily available. That that you see that all that's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that makes sense.

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But like stuff that's just kind of like I want to lose 150 pounds quick, I understand why that's a profitable thing. I understand why that is. But to say stuff that is absolutely life-changing should have absolutely have nothing to do with that.

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Yeah.

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No, I agree.

SPEAKER_05

You know, and I'm not against this stair step thing too. When I was going through all the stuff with my back, yeah, they wanted to, because they were talking surgery, but before they ever got to that point, they were like, you know, we have to actually show even before we'll get an MRI done, we'll have to have you go to the physical therapist, you'll have to do your those exercises and stuff, and we could even look at doing an epidural in your spine to kind of you know undo all that stuff. And to be honest with me, when I was at that point, I was like, Well, I don't want you cutting on me. Yeah, you know, I've seen that with you know what I mean. I don't I don't want that. I don't necessarily want a big shot going into my spine.

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The big the big thing that people don't understand is that there are exemptions to the rules, there's loopholes for everything.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Everything that you can do in your life, somebody has not liked it, and they've made a way to go around it to try to make it.

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It's not easy to find.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_03

But if you're persistent, I guess my problem is is when I've had it, even from like an auto, from auto and home, like some it shouldn't be hard. I've paid if I don't do now, if I do claims all the time, okay, I get that, right? But I pay into something every month or every six months.

SPEAKER_02

Do you do you understand how insurance works?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's paid into a collective. Okay. There's a collective and then it's paid out to the case.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but you know, it's so much beyond that too, right? Yeah. Because an insurance company's a bank. They have to make money somehow in order to do this. I get it. So what they do is they take the money that you you invest, because that's what you're doing. You're investing, and they're gonna take it and they're gonna invest it somewhere else to try to keep that pot going. But when you have tornadoes come through, and they come through Dayton and Zenia and all this place, and they have $10 billion worth of damages, the problem the promise is you've paid into that pot that if it ever happens to you, they're gonna write that check to the exact amount that's on the coverages. So you could get it lowered to where it's not changed all the time and you can get cash value where you know your home may be $350,000 to completely rebuild, but we could give you $180,000 if your house goes down, and then we'll we'll save save you tons of money when you do that.

SPEAKER_03

Do you want that promise? No, I I get what you're saying, but also sometimes it does make it it feels like it's hard. You have to jump through so many hoops to get money that you've paid for, that you've paid into.

SPEAKER_05

And I understand from it like a you're talking about doing just general repairs, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like a j like for like right now, my car, like when I when I damaged my car, they were like, Well, you need like it's just like what's your well, did you promise a deductible? What do you mean? You have you have to make I know I have to make the deductible payment. You have to make the deductible payment, but they only will cover so much after that, right? Is basically what I understand.

SPEAKER_02

No, they'll you they will pay the difference. That's how it works. They don't come out and look at it and say, you know, this they pay to get your car back to what condition it was.

SPEAKER_05

If you get it looked at by a mechanic or bodywork or whatever, you pay the deductible, they pay the rest, and then they pay the rest. The only thing they might have is they might have a claims adjuster come by the same.

SPEAKER_02

The only thing that changes is if your vehicle is completely totaled, if you're complete the their promise is so when you car insurance, it's impossible unless you have a a a very unique policy that is like a historic Yeah, because vehicles depreciate.

SPEAKER_03

It's a depreciation asset.

SPEAKER_02

You're going to get cash value because they can't put you back at what you when you well if you put a if you got a Honda that's 2,300, 250,000 miles on it, it's worth it and all this stuff, and it's it's worth maybe what a thousand dollars, thirteen hundred, fifteen hundred.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, and then today's prices it's worth twelve.

SPEAKER_02

Probably, you know. But and you come back and say, When I got it, it was twenty three thousand dollars. Yeah, no, you I understand that it's you're losing battle. So it's it's it's insurance is completely fair. It's not a scam. Uh now, if you want to get into like life insurance, there's some life insurances out there that are a scam, 100%.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. All it just all depends on that's where you that's where the insurance agent comes into play.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And I mean, if you want to go for a life insurance that you're gonna get dividends back and stuff like that, you know, and you're willing to invest into it, you know, you're you're fine. But I mean, it's like all this other stuff. It I don't know how we got into insurance, it's just kind of it started with Fauci. Yeah.

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Should we lighten

Word Of The Day: Wittershins

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it up? Sure. Word of the day.

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We don't like Fauci.

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We'll just lighten it up.

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All right, hold on, let me get it. I gotta figure out which one it is. That was a good conversation. Yeah. If speaking of which, if you need insurance, give me a call.

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Every show is brought to yours truly. Sean is a good guy. Sean won't scam you. No. Word of the day. Word of the day.

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All right. So my word today is Wittershins.

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I've been so scared to try to say that myself.

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Have you have you looked it up? No. Did you see it? Witter shins. W-I-D-D-E-R-S-H-I-N-S. W-I-D-D. Yep. E-R-S-H-I-N-S. Wittershins.

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Wittershins is when you stayed inside too long and you're at the beach and you're in shorts and you have Witter shins.

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That's pretty good. I like that one.

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He's ashy. Yeah, I don't know. I'm I'm thinking like wood chips for some strange roof reason.

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I was thinking like a roof thing, like a roof tile, like something. Hurricane ties. Like it's not like a shingle. Like you don't have like a like a spin sky.

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I'm reworking my Witter shins. Yeah.

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It's a grass roof, isn't it?

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Storm came through.

SPEAKER_05

I gotta replace a couple Witter shins. So Witter shins is another way of saying something is moving counterclockwise, or basically that it's moving in the wrong direction.

SPEAKER_02

See, I should have known it was a direction. So it's in the same category as like cadywampus. That's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_03

That was his word. So I should have known it's a direction thing. Did I do cadywampus? I think you think I didn't.

SPEAKER_02

No, I think I did cattywampus.

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I don't remember. That's a long time ago.

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That was a long time ago. Wittershin's. So it means counterclockwise.

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Basically, it just means that something's moving in the wrong direction or counterclockwise. Do you have a sentence for it?

SPEAKER_03

I don't. Can you use it in a where's Chat GP?

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I feel like that would be really, really hard to put into a look a phrase.

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I feel like that clock is going wittershins. No. Use it in a sermon.

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Okay. I won't use that one.

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It's such a hard I would be scared I'd mess it up and say something else.

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That's what I'm saying. It's such a close word.

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That's a close one.

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Watch your profanity.

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He is he is reading. He is scrolling.

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Well, the one was talking about people in a coven dancing in the wrong direction. I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna use that one. There's Bigfoot in it.

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Just watch it from the woods. People that believe in Bigfoot. Brainer working witters. Counterintuitive and counterclockwise. It's going backward. Oh my word. I don't know. That's a good word.

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That's a I will never use it. So it's very old English. So it's, you know, obviously people. From the motherland?

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From our homeland in England.

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Evander flung up one hand and made a circling motion Wittershins in the air.

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Dude.

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He didn't even hear me. I'm sorry. We were Evander flung up one hand and made a circling motion Wittersins in the air.

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Evander? Is that a main is that a person? That's a name.

SPEAKER_05

That is old English right there. That is look, I'll tell you another one. Crowds of people are walking cultural Wittershins around the oval of the reading room.

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Yeah, there's there's no hope for me with that one.

SPEAKER_05

It is it would be way too hard to put in a sentence, but it is a word. So therefore, that is the word of the day. Word of the day. Word of the day. So now if you see somebody going on the wrong side of the road, you can say they're driving Wittershins.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, when they're in the shit.

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I can't do it. I can't. I will I will be in trouble if I'm gonna do it. When you're in England.

SPEAKER_03

You're England in England for the first time. Why is everybody driving so Wittershins?

SPEAKER_01

Oh man. I want to drive in New York City, but I don't know that I want to drive in like Europe.

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No, there's no way.

SPEAKER_01

There's too many like our steering wheel would be Witter.

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How'd he say Wittershit's That was a close one? He almost that's what I'm saying. He almost slipped. Our steering wheels are Wittersins to England's.

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Yeah. I know we're doing it the right way. We won the war, so we're right.

Driving On The Wrong Side

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So I when I was doing my driving test, the guy that was teaching me, because you know you have to have so many hours of lessons and all that stuff, he was we I was in the class and he said that he got in a car because they were talking about that pedal that those cars have on their side so that they can slow down. He said they don't work very well. Like they're they don't they're not like you're gonna jam on the brake and it's gonna come to a complete stop. They basically just slow you down, essentially, is what it works out to. And he said, he took on one individual that was military family, and so they were saying, you know, they've got all their driving hours in, but they haven't been to class because you know, we've been stationed elsewhere, and so they were like, Okay, he said, that's fine, out they can ride with me. It was a young lady, they can ride with me, and they'll get their driving hours in, and that's that's just what we'll go with. So when they got in a car, the f they got in, and the girl was like very comfortable in a car. Oh, yeah, I've been driving all this time and everything. So he's like, Okay, well, when you pull out of this parking lot, turn left. And said they pulled out of the parking lot, turned left, and she started driving on the wrong side of the road, like instantly. So he said, he said, I instantly had a heart attack because I was like, You're in the wrong side, you're on the wrong side. It was like a four-lane road, and he was like trying to get her, like, you're going in the wrong direction. Well, they failed to tell him that she did all her driving in Europe, and so when she started with she didn't do any driving where they drove on the opposite side of the road. The normal way for us.

SPEAKER_03

That's just so weird, though. Like the like a left turn is their right turn. So like they can turn left on red. Yeah. Which we can only do that on a one-way street, is the only time you can turn left on red. Or if there's no cops around.

SPEAKER_01

My driver's gonna be around. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. So we did drive. Pull it to the pew, it's not right, stand by this statement. Do not endorse that your pastor. I had been driving since way before legal age because my dad wasn't from Texas. So I would go down there in the summer, and my grandpa taught me how to drive standard and everything. So he's like, Well, for insurance purposes, we're gonna do driver's training regardless. So I remember driving, and I'm driving, and I've been driving for a while. She hit her brake one time, and I looked over. She's like, What? You were getting too close to the car in front of you. She was a little short lady, and I sit really high in the seat. So she thought I was getting way too close to the car, and I still had like a car's length, and so she'd never hit the brake again. I was like, Wow, what are you doing? Then I remember I taught her something. I can't remember what it was, but like I did something in the car while we were training, and she's like, Why did you do that? And I had told her, and she's like, I have never done that or known about that before. I can't remember.

SPEAKER_05

I was like, That's

Driver’s Ed Horror Stories And Tests

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pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01

Did you guys all do driver's ed? I yeah, have to.

SPEAKER_03

Not if you're 18, you don't. Yeah. But I took my class, I took my classes, even though Did you guys do it at school? Did you guys get some school didn't offer it no more? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It's you're hard pressed to find a school in the city.

SPEAKER_01

Northwest doesn't offer it anymore.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Huberhide City doesn't either.

SPEAKER_05

You have to go through it's they've got so many different classes now. Like I think I did 4A or something like that.

SPEAKER_03

I hated my driving class because every week or every because it was like I think you had to take six classes, they were like an hour and a half, two hours. And every class was like, You're going to die in your vehicle. You're going.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, we thought we were going to die in the classroom because it was on the west side of Columbus. We would start class and they would get up and they would like deadbolt the door. I'm not joking.

SPEAKER_03

They would get up, nice, deadbolt it. You were like, You are going. You drive your car, you turn the ignition, you will die. You pull out of your driveway, you will die.

SPEAKER_02

How many vehicles did you guys have? Like from the car.

SPEAKER_01

That's like the funniest thing. So like they had all these cars, and the lady they put me with had a little oh, what was it? I want to say it was a little bitty car. And I'm this saying she's like credible over here. I want to say it was like a little cavalier or something like that. So I want to say it was a cavalier.

SPEAKER_05

I I was a Pontiac Sunfire. Oh, dude, those cars are awful. That's what I that's what I got taught in. Now, I'm not gonna lie, I can't remember a stitch of my classes. I don't know either. I don't know. I don't remember one. I don't remember any of them. The only thing I remember is that I was gonna do it. I just remember that story.

SPEAKER_01

So as far as like I remember the only thing I remember, they showed a slide and like it was a video of the car in front of us, and they were like, How do you know this car is stopping or whatever? And everyone else was like guessing. They were like, Well, all these different random things, and I was like, That's easy. I was like, the back end of the car is lifted up. I said, So the front end's dipped, he's hitting his brakes, even though he got brakes like they were like, How did you notice that? I'm like, dude, I'm telling you, I've been driving for like four years.

SPEAKER_02

So so mine was a Volkswagen bug.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, and I but I'm gonna tell you what. No joke, the car I've been in with the most room. Yeah, the ceilings are like huge. I had to put the seat forward in the vehicle. I never do it. I like got in it and put it all the way back.

SPEAKER_02

Ford Mustang. Well, so a Ford Mustang? Not just that, but those bugs are actually fast. I heard they're fun cars, they are crazy fast. I mean, even the smart cars. Yeah, I mean, they're a they're a cheap Porsche. I mean, it's pretty much what it is.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, yeah. Well, so the Pontiac Sunfire, it was great until you had to push your feet out of the floor and start pushing it with your Fred Flintstone it, man.

SPEAKER_02

So we had a Pontiac Sunfire growing up and the roof leaked. So you would get in, and there might be like two, three inches of water in the bottom, and it's the car smelt.

SPEAKER_01

But see, now you moved to you've moved to testing, and my testing was the best. So I was leaving for Texas. It was like on my 16th birthday, and they're like, if you fail, you have to wait a week. And like I was leaving like two days after my birthday. So I was like, I have to pass. So we get there, they go in, we give them all the stuff. So mom and dad have an old Dodge caravan, the small ones, like not the big minivan, like the little nitty tiny one. So mom's sitting at the back talking to me, and this the cop, because that was before you had to do it with the cop. So she came walking up and she just stood at the back. We were just talking. She looked at it, we're like, So mom's like, Yeah, and she's like, Well, you guys done talking yet? So it started off on the wrong foot. Get in the car. Car doesn't have air conditioner, it's too old. So she's like, It's hot because I'm June, so middle of June. So she's like, It's hot. Can I roll down my window? Window didn't roll down. No, no, you can't. Sorry. We just started off on totally the wrong foot. I did pass, but she was not happy to be in that vehicle.

SPEAKER_05

I failed my first time.

SPEAKER_03

I that was my next question. Did everybody the only thing I got points deducted for, and it's the stupidest thing in the world, is because I did not signal a hundred feet before. But in my defense, I was driving in Huber Heights where there's driveways. There's driveways everywhere. So if I did the proper thing of signaling, anybody behind me would be like, Why is this guy driving so far with his turn signal on? Is he pulling in the driveway? And and then also my guy, we We were in a parking lot. I had passed and they had a mini stop sign for the parking lot for people if they were whatever. I didn't stop because there was no cars. And he's like, If that was a graded stop sign, I would fail you immediately. I'm like, Okay, dude, you're fine. You're you're you're just sitting in the passenger seat of a 17-year-old like.

SPEAKER_01

I lied for two things. I made a right-hand turn and I didn't look. Like it was two-way road, and she wanted me to turn right onto a side street. And she said I didn't check traffic on my left. And I was like, if they're gonna hit me, it's their fault. Like, I'm turning, I ain't gotta look that way. Left eye. And then the other one was exactly what you said. She made me turn a right and then make another like left, and it was like less than a block. And so as soon as I turned, I didn't turn on my blinker to turn left.

SPEAKER_02

I I think I got Doc for that, but mid-test, like we were getting ready to pull out, and one of the guys, somebody else was taking the test and maneuverability, and he hit a cone, and I was like, ooh, geez, man, that guy, that guy got hit, and he goes, Your test ain't over. I'm like, I'm just saying, I could be like that guy.

SPEAKER_05

How did you fail yours? So I choked on the maneuverability. Like I could do it. No, no, but I knew I knew I no I hit a cone and I knew I hit it. And I was they didn't notice it, you told them, didn't you? No, no, no, no, no, because I made sure they knew I hit the cone because I knew I failed. Like I knew I hit it, and I was like, you know what, whatever. I'm not gonna be that dude that's like I know how to do it. I was so mad at myself, and for whatever reason, man, I choked. And so I hit the cone and I was like, and so I just gassed it and I got the cone stuck underneath the car. So by the time it was all said and done, I had to pull the car back forward and they had to pry the cone out from underneath the car. But after the week, I did it fine. I don't know if my nerves just did it, but I did get docked on the second go-round for turn signal.

SPEAKER_03

Not which is the stupidest thing in the world. Yeah, it's so dumb. Yeah, like just give me my hundred, dude. I mean, half the people I know don't even use a turn signal. Yeah, the amount of people in the state of Ohio that don't know how to use a turn signal, it's like well, you know, when you have to stick your hand out and show the signs, I just forgot what those were. I never he was too busy paddling with his feet.

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That's right.

SPEAKER_03

This is this is this no no that when you're turning, this is left, and then you just point right, right?

SPEAKER_02

It's gotta be out the window. Um I think this is right.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, this is right, that's left.

SPEAKER_02

This is left, and that that is stop. I'm pretty positive. Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, they don't teach you can't remember us.

SPEAKER_02

You know, so I should probably use those when like my turn signals got. I've never seen it. They don't teach on the bus.

SPEAKER_01

No, you got too many other things to learn other than hand signals. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

So I we were I was in a Pontiac Sunfire, and it it was when it was a four cylinder, I'm talking, it was like it was like the bare bones of the four-cylinder.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's already one I think I can. I think I can.

SPEAKER_05

You hit the gas pedal and like five seconds later it starts to move. Yeah. Yeah. You hit the gas and it's just sitting here, and you're like, okay, man, whenever you're ready, we're gonna go. I'm ready to go. So in the w the way that we were driving up by our house, there's a there's Bellbrook, and to get out of Bellbrook into where I live at, there's a hill that goes up and it's a pretty steep incline. And so we start going up that hill. Well, before you get to that hill, you're only allowed to go 25 miles an hour. So, you know, I'm I'm barely cruising at 25 miles an hour, and I start going up that hill, and I'm thinking, dude, we're at 15 at this point by the time we get up. And so my driver instructor he opens up the glove compartment and he starts digging in his pocket and he starts going like this. Now I can't watch him because I'm supposed to be watching the road, but I'm I'm sitting there and I'm seeing this out of my peripheral, and he keeps throwing his stuff out, and I'm just praying at this point. Let's make it to the top of the hill so I don't have to like walk alongside of the car. I could run faster, and this car was going up the hill. And finally he says, Wow, you're not even gonna ask what I'm doing. And I was like, I'm watching the road. Yeah, I was like, Well, what are you doing? He's like, I'm feeding the hamsters. And I said, What are you talking about? He goes, you know, HP, hamster power. He said, if I give them more food, they'll run in the circle a whole lot faster and we'll go up the hill. Oh my word. Oh, so you had a cool driving instruction. Yeah, he was awesome.

SPEAKER_03

That's that's cool.

SPEAKER_05

We I took him to his girlfriend's apartment to take care of his girlfriend's cat and stuff. I mean, the dude was awesome as far as like the most chill guy ever. Oh, I loved it. But yeah, he was he was fucked.

SPEAKER_03

And he actually took points off of you for signaling.

SPEAKER_05

No, no, no, no. That was the test. Oh. So this was the driver instructor. The test was a terrific.

SPEAKER_03

And my instructor was the same way as yours.

SPEAKER_02

All right, my instructor was good, except for like my second day like driving. He took us to a historic downtown Columbus in like the German village, and like at like where it was made for horses and buggies, it's like so tight. I mean, like, you can even like look out, and they still got tie posts like down the you know, for your horses, and like he's like, now listen, he goes, That right there's a BMW, and that's almost all of my salary. He's like, Don't touch it. I'm like, Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. That was me though, as a bus instructor, though. Like, I would take him downtown Cincinnati in a big old bus. I'm like, You're gonna take a field trip, you're going to come downtown. Yeah, you might as well do it when I'm here to watch.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I would rather you my driver instructor looked like Butterbean, the boxer, and he talked like Butterbean. Like he always had he had like four pieces of gum in his mouth at all times, and he was just short and just could you I I just have to imagine though.

SPEAKER_05

Could you imagine the amount of nerve damage that is done mentally to the people that are riding with six sixteen, seventeen-year-old kids? No.

SPEAKER_01

I've seen those videos on like TikTok and Facebook. No, I I could not write it.

SPEAKER_05

You couldn't that dude that dude's chewing four pieces of gum. It's really niceret, is what it is. Like, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

So bad.

SPEAKER_05

His nerves are so bad. That's why he's chewing those four pieces of cumps.

SPEAKER_03

But it's just like, yeah, I could never do that before. Don't let me chew in the car. I can't smoke my cigarettes with a student. So I'm just chewing anything with now. At least they'd have zens or whatever they're doing.

SPEAKER_05

Look, those guys, man, they don't sleep. They just lay in bed and they shake all night long. I survived another one. I made it through another day.

SPEAKER_03

Their foot is just permanently on the brake pedal. Just never knocked it.

SPEAKER_05

That's why they walk on their tippy toes.

SPEAKER_03

They don't have cleft feet. They just got they got brake foot. Oh my word.

SPEAKER_02

They got brake foot. I know, man. He said Nickerette, and I'm like, get out of here.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't say Nick Rat though.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't say you. I'm looking at the man. I'm looking at my pastor.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, look, listen. I didn't say that I was promoting it. I said that their nerves are so shot that's what he's doing. Is that what you chew before you preach it?

SPEAKER_01

Now my nerves doing.

SPEAKER_03

Actually, Nick Rat Gum is supposed to help you stop smoking.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Now do it in a 29-foot bus. I've done that. I've been there I've been the passenger on that. Yeah.

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No, thank you.

SPEAKER_01

Do they have broke pedals? No, no, you do not.

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Oh my goodness. We're trying to bring it to a close, man. I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sure our listeners

Final Jokes And Sign Off

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were too.

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Thanks for listening, everybody. We'll catch you next week. See ya.

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See ya.

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See ya.