The Real MVPs: Why Moms are the Silent Heroes of the Household (and how they handle the "Man Cold"), and Raising Badasses | It's Mother's Day on Unspoken!

Happy Mother’s Day! On this episode we talk to our amazing wives and mothers to our awesome kiddos! We have been so excited about this episode to finally get a chance to hear from Annie (Nick’s Wife) and Katie (Nick’s Wife) about their everyday lives and having to deal with us! 😉 

This is such a fun episode and we can’t wait for you to hear it! 

Thank you again to our incredible better halves for joining us on the show today! 

Celebrate Mother’s Day with the Unspoken with Nick and Nick podcast as the hosts welcome their wives, Annie and Katie, to discuss the raw, relatable, and humorous sides of motherhood. This episode explores the dramatic shift in parenting phases, contrasting the toddler years with the "fight for the heart" that comes with raising teenagers. Listeners will find insightful motherhood advice on maintaining patience and presence, alongside hilarious debates about the infamous "man cold" and the heavy mental load moms carry while juggling household chores and parenting. From stories about balancing careers in marketing and education to the sentimental realization that moms are the "real MVPs" and a child's "safe place," this episode is an essential listen for anyone seeking parenting tips or a heartfelt tribute to the "true badasses" of the family.

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Welcome to Unspoken, where everyone is the... Welcome back to another episode of Unspoken with Nick and Nick. And it is our Mother's Day episode. It's our Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day. Too bad there's not a song for Mother's Day. I know. We should write one. We should write one. That would go viral, right? I have Chad GPT. We could just get one out real quick. We should probably do that for the next segment and have them sing it. And then it'll live forever in the Apple iTunes space. Yes. Yep. Dude, it'd be so great. Nothing says we adore everything about mothers more than making them sing. Exactly. I 100% agree. Gift-giving done. And I know that my wife certainly agrees. Yeah. I can't speak for your wife. She's really smiling at you right now. She smiles all the time. It's a matter of what's the punctuation, like the exclamation mark or question mark at the end of the smile, you know? And here we are. Yeah. Well, I can confidently say I think that both of our wives will talk way less than us during this episode. They're both thrilled to be here, though. They really are. They're so supportive. They love us very much, and they can't wait to listen to their own episode one day. It was funny. Katie, I was trying to talk to her about being hot. She goes, you're just springing this on me. I'm like, well, no, we've been talking about it, but I just brought it up to you. To be fair, I mentioned this episode to you like months ago. We had the idea for a Mother's Day episode. You did? I did. So. And I did. OK, you mentioned it, but two days ago, you're like, by the way, you're going to be on the podcast. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you forget when Mother's Day was? Did you think we were going to do this episode in December? Man, we've had sick kid-rate days. Maybe I got out of it. You know what I said? I go, I am your husband. And what I meant by that was I need you to have me on this one. You said, and you're my wife. And you're my wife. It feels like that conversation went really well. I think it's pretty normal. Sure I am. She's here. Here we are. To be fair, where else would you have been if you weren't talking tonight? Folding laundry, washing my hair. This is the exact same thing as that. This is as productive as it is. And by the way, Winston would way rather be here. Don't bring Winston in. Winston loves being down here. Winston loves being down here. One of these days we're going to have to get Winston on the podcast. We will. And with his little AI voice. Didn't they, like back in the early 1900s, they did bring an animal on the stand for like a jury. They probably could bring him on the show. It's probably true. Let's do it. That's a true story. I know, king of useless knowledge. But I don't know. So I'm not going to question it. You should see the way Katie just looked at me. It's like a dumb enough fact that it's probably true. She's like, whoa, I am so turned on. That is amazing. My wife's like, get me out of here. What is happening? This is not ladies, man. Don't worry. Our bird's heads are falling off. You guys probably don't get the hell out of here, Harry. Do you guys have any idea what we're talking about at all? Oh, all right. No, you would not have known. Yeah. You're not big in the reference world. That's OK. You're still smoking hot to win. You know, you're welcome. Thank you. OK, so fun fact, Nick wakes up in the morning. He pisses. Excellent. Excellent. That's exactly right. And I also use my hands to talk a lot. So I guess Ricky Bobby and higher synonymous. So I play on a men's league baseball team and quite frequently, I will talk about how smoking hot my wife is. It's pretty normal. Yeah. If I hit a double, I'm like flexing. That one's for you. Yeah. Stuff like that. And occasionally. Do you shoot her the love arrow? No, that's a good one. I should start doing that. What would you rather I say when I hit a double or a home run? Probably just nothing. I mean, it's pretty much an old fat guy league. So it's not like a big accomplishment, which is why I can get away with doing dumb stuff. When, you know, you get to the base. OK, well, I'm already there. It's not like she's like, yeah, can we run her alone? Let's go home. We've done that a few times. Yeah, exactly. To be fair, our children love coming to the games. They do. That's cool. Yeah. So that's a lot of fun. You did get the cutest picture of little man the other day. That was pretty awesome. Pretty cute. So it's been like five minutes. Who are you, smoking hot wife? You're making me start. Well, can I say something real quick? I'm so glad to hear you talk to her that way because I do that to her at little kid games. I'll look through the fence and I'll just like do the old Joe Dirt. Yeah. I'll go, who's your friend? Yeah. You come here often? You from out of town? I always do this stuff. Get out of the shower and say stuff like that to her. What's up, mama? Yep. That is 100% totally worth it. See, we're totally worth it. We are worth being here for. I feel like you guys should introduce us. I think so. OK, I'll introduce my wife. Business lady. No, I like it. You asked us to be here. Oh, you're right. I forgot. I forgot we asked. Sorry, I was taking a drink by La Croix. That came out really stern. That was. Yeah, I think it would be fun. Told me. Getting a little scared for you. I'm not safe. That's not funny. We went over that with Noel. Yes, we did. We did. Sorry, Noel. After you totally crossed the line twice. I did cross the line twice. Yeah, that's me. OK, well, my wife would like to go second. It's apparent now, so you can introduce your wife. Hello, Katie. Here's my wife, Katie. Smoking hot wife. That was my thing. That's mine, too. Dude, your name's first. I can copy that. That's fair. OK, thank you. Sorry, babe. Love you. This is so much fun. I did need. Who are you? I'm your wife. Yeah, nailed it. That's all she needs. Yeah, I guess it's all right. No, yeah. Yeah. Nailed it twice. Twice. Not FedEx. Check. One day your kids will get that job. They will. Funny as hell. No, but for real, we really appreciate you both being on. And I'm going to break it down to a serious note. Mothers everywhere. We love you. Yes. You all are the silent ones that just sit back and you take it all and you dish it. And when you dish it, you dish in the good stuff, the good memories. We are, too. But this isn't about us, Nick. They have to interview us. Bingo. Moms are true badasses, man. For real, they kiss the boo-boos. They make you feel better. They protect you from dad when he's gone overboard on scaring home. And yeah, I mean, you're much appreciated in the house. And I know I say it. I don't say it enough, but now everybody gets to hear me say it. That I appreciate everything you do for this house. Now, who are you? Boom. Boom. What do you do? Work in marketing and advertising. Very nice. You don't have to say where. We don't have to. What kind of things do you advertise and market? Um, so TV commercials. Yeah, I've seen some of those. Or, yeah, so like Super Bowl ads, right? Like the 30 million dollars, 10 second ads. We we now insert on Amazon Prime, which is pretty cool. It's neat. Never had Google AdWords. Because you guys are working with Prime now. Is that what you mean? Like, yeah. Yeah. OK, yeah. Yeah, that's my day job. Nice. So not only full career, full time mama. That's right. To four of us, even the dogs. Winston, don't forget about me out here. I hear you. Where are you? That's right. You're down there somewhere. But no, I am. I am a big kid. I mean, I think she about 90% of the way knew what she was getting into with me. But I'm a big kid. I mean, and there's no other way to be. Life's too short and she accepts me for that. And I and I found one that can put up with me. That's a pretty big. That's a tall order. That is a tall order. That's right. But I'm loyal and I love you. This was a really sweet moment, you guys. Wow. It was. I feel touched. Now you. I'm loyal and I love you. What's up, mama? You guys want a plate of spaghetti? So this is my smoking hot wife, Annie. And I agree. I appreciate you very much. You are not the ruler of this particular domain because this is not our home. Our home is over that way in the we're in the smaller, less expensive area where the basement gets water and things like that. Yeah, I can't truthfully say enough good things about my wife, honestly. I could go all night. And I think that all the joking aside of the goofy things I say to you, I do appreciate you more than I can put into words. I say that to you a lot. And I am not afraid to tell you that very often. I do not put it on Facebook. No dumbest thing I've ever seen. Dumbest. I will not probably ever. In fact, so much so that she's like, why don't you tell me that you love me on Facebook? Because I couldn't give a shit less about people. About Facebook. Right. We're that way. We'll say happy birthday or whatever. And it's usually like a sweet heartfelt message. But it's like, I hear it. Exactly. Yeah, it's too many people live that way. Yes, they do. That's true. And yeah, there's a lot of things that have happened since we met each other that I think that I would not have gotten through without you. And that's a really big deal to me, including this podcast. So thank you for coming and hanging out on the podcast. Now, you tell everybody who you are, mama. Well, I'm a first grade teacher during the day, and I've done that for eight years. And then six years, I was full time. And then two years ago, I started going part time. So I get to be a part time stay at home mom and then teach the other little children. Very cool. Yeah, very cool. Super fun experience. The best of both worlds. Today, when you're like, all right, they're yours when you get home. Sometimes it's easier to go to work. Sometimes it's easier to work. That's true. I could not do either part of what you do. I've told you that many times. You're a way better stay at home mom than I am a stay at home dad. That is not easy. So I agree with that. That is very tough. It's that nurturing part. It is. It's yeah, it's hard for us to turn that on. Not hard, but different. It's different. Yeah. Yeah. I think what we've talked about this too, because you're not a girl, dad. So that changed a lot of things for me because I would say I was pretty hard nosed before. And I had, I mean, we've talked about this. I've had no idea what to do when I got a girl. I was like, oh crap. And then it's just crying. Yeah. Born like I'm going to cry when all my babies are born. 100% cried at my wedding. I don't care. So it is. So did I. Yeah. Bald. I bald. Oh, yeah. You know. At your wedding? Uh-huh. Yes. Oh, babies too. Babies too. Yeah. Oh, the baby. Yeah. All the things. I mean, I bald so much with the babies that I remember when Hensley was born. I went out to let my mom know and I was like, and she goes, is everything okay? Yeah, everything's fine. Why? Everything's great. It's like, I don't know how to stop this. Oh, yeah. Well, it was actually really funny because like when our babies were born. Well, really when baby girl was born, when Madison was born, I didn't know what to expect because the only experience we had with like children in our family at the time was when our niece was born. And my family went to the hospital when my sister was in the hospital. And I, I'll tell my dad this every time. We almost fought in the middle of the hospital because he's pacing around and he's, you know, complaining about my brother-in-law not texting him back. And he's, what's going on in there? I was like, it kind of feels like they're having a baby probably. Like, and I mean, we were there for hours. Everybody was just like kind of over that part. And for some reason, my grandma and grandpa were there too. I'm not really sure why the first grand kid, I guess. No, it wasn't. Well, no, not there's like 30 other grandkids just with your parents. I don't know. Yes, exactly. But anyway, I don't know. They just want to be part of it. Yeah. And like all totally cool. But I was like, maybe there's something I don't know about going on back there. So maybe I have no idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had no idea, truthfully. But that was a big, big deal for me. So yeah, I'll cry at all our babies. I can get super emotional. Don't care. Somebody got to say something right here. Come on with it. That's the deal. So you each look at us the exact same way. Yes. A hundred percent. Oh, yeah. Well, we say a lot of the same stuff. I'm sure. So outside of being annoyed at your husbands, what would you say it takes to be a mom? Because you're effectively you raise other kids that are not yours as well. So you have a different aspect here. No, that takes more. I couldn't. There's a zero percent chance I could be a teacher. Oh, yeah. I would have been fired first day before lunch because I'd be sending off emails like her my last email. Shitbag end quotes. Yeah. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it either. Takes a special person to be able to do that. Her whole family, they're all educators and couldn't do it. That's a big old nope for me, dog. What would you say? I'd say loving is the first thing that comes to mind for me. Yeah, being their safe place. That comes with love and compassion and discipline is big for me. I think just from my education world. I mean, it's very important. I'm not there to be their best friend, but they don't need us to be their best friend. We're there to love them and support them and help them grow and be good humans in the world, I would say. I agree. That's pretty solid. Yeah. Good luck following that one up. What would you say? I mean, I agree with loving. I think patience is huge. If you don't have patience, I don't think you can deal with little tiny humans. The ability to play and get silly, which I think sometimes we all forget. Oh, yeah. It's super important to the kids. I feel like we're serious a lot, but yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. I think, too, it takes a good foundation with a relationship, too. Too many people, I know we've all heard, they have kids because they think it'll fix a relationship. Well, no. Oh, yeah, no. If you're not solid, and no couple's perfect, but solid. The foundation is level. It's not cracked. You're ready to rock and roll. Build your levels. It is kind of funny because you can always kind of pick up on what kind of people are like that because they got like seven kids and like three dogs. Yeah, right. Well, yeah, it's a downhill slide, isn't it? Maybe this kid will fix it. Yeah, exactly. Right. Unless you're like my buddy, Phil. Phil's one of 12. His wow, like rabbits over there. Wow. But they that family, they love more than I probably have seen in the world. Wow. But they're super Catholic. So maybe just keep popping out. Yep. There's moonwalking out at a certain point. Facts are facts. I feel like our kids are at an age where we just play all the time. Like I walked down this morning and Madison has like a full on birthday party going on in our family room floor. She's got all her birthday decorations out. Yeah. I'm like, you're just so sweet and innocent. It's just easy to forget that. Yeah. You do forget that like the airport, we would all like remember all the airports we'd have set up in our living room. Magna Tiles. We'd have terminals made out of Magna Tiles. Humidifier. Dad, you be tower. So I'd have to sit up in the tower and like call out airplanes to take off. And what runway, dad? What runways active? They know that. They do know that. Yeah. That's awesome. Well, and that's so funny that you say that about the planes because Madison loves planes too. That's so cool. Talk about that a lot. Well, we went to Wichita. They have like a discovery center for the kids and she wanted to get in the airplane simulator. She loves that movie Sing. You guys ever seen that with the animals? Sing is good. So in the second one, there's a line in there where it's like captain's log. I must take care. Yeah. So she just kept saying over and over. Captain's log. I have to go. You just keep flying the plane. I mean, it was like, oh, my gosh. So she had all the time. It was awesome. Okay. So you guys are in like very different mom phases. Yeah. You have much older kids than us. I say much older. Yeah. But reality like we were there yesterday. Yeah. But yeah, that's how quick she's not wrong. Yesterday, we were there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, in just in the aspect, like effectively four times older than our kids, I have an almost three year old and an eight month old. You guys have 10 and 13. Yeah. 13 on Friday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So very different. What is if you could give advice to anybody that is momming in your phase, what would it be? As you both look at each other like, I don't know what I'm going to say. I mean, I think for me, just enjoying the phase that you're in. Like, there are definitely hard moments every day. Oh, yeah. We are in when you could be mad every day about stuff. Yeah. Toddler phase for sure. Yeah. But I feel like it's kind of the same with like any relationship in general, too, like being married. Like we could choose to be mad all the time. We wanted to just finding the joy. Yeah. Join the little things, I would say. Yeah. Patience. A lot of patience. A lot of it. Presence. Presence. Yeah. That's a big one for us right now. Our attention. Oh, I thought you meant like unwrapping. No, I'm joking. Presence. Yes. I knew exactly. I knew what you meant. I knew what you meant. I was joking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead, because I really it's so funny. Now I see why the couple we had on Sean and Mindy, right? I see why they wanted to like talk for each other. Oh, yeah. Because I'm experiencing that right now where she's brought things up and I'm like, I got it, babe. It's right here. I know what you've said. Don't wish things away. Oh, yeah. Don't wish the time away because every you want to go back to some of those. Oh, yeah. Moments you had like when they were five and when they were seven or when they were three, but at the same time, like all the new milestones that are happening, they're really neat. Oh, yeah. And it doesn't they're not better. It's all the same, but different. Yeah. Does it make sense? Well, it's like all the overly sentimental like monologues or people are like, you know, once you're three, they do this and then they become five and they start doing this and then they're 10 and they do this and it's like them one day you look back and you realize you picked them up for the last time. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for the giant kick in the scrotes, man. I just saw a baseball one the other day on Instagram. The head. Yeah. Oh, my Lord. Yeah. Yes, exactly. So I totally agree. I would say that we talk about that a lot because. I'm sorry I answered for you, but I want you to answer that for real. Yeah. What would you say? Oh. Advice. Advice for this phase. Well, advice for. Up to this phase. Up to this phase. Anything else? For soon to be or current parents. Oh, buckle up. It is. It is a ride. It is. It is a ride. I mean, four short weeks ago, a girl pinned her number on our son's shirt at the baseball field and. Gross. Icky. In St. Louis. Yes, we were in St. Louis. She was from Illinois and now they're dating. But he's super shy. I've tried to keep him really little. I try to keep them both very little. Oh, yeah, yeah, we keep them pretty. Really complicated. So. Yeah. He's not on social media. He probably doesn't know as much as a lot of kids who are going into eighth grade. Yeah. I'm OK with that right now, but. Oh, man, I'm not ready. I. I found myself. And I had to, like, kind of talk to myself after. Oh, you were hot. I grew you for me. You're mine. We're still in the room. OK, I'm sorry. She's hot later. Which I know is really selfish, but I for the first time was like, oh, my gosh, there's another girl who's trying to steal my little boy's heart. And that was hard. Even though it's not serious. And the texts I've read are like math was boring today. So, yeah, long division. Yeah, I'm like, hey, buddy, what's your last name? I don't know. When's her birthday? I don't know. It's not serious. What's she look like? No, you know, like anything. Yeah, no, but it's fun. It's just so different than, you know, you kind of. That's really interesting. Yeah, for you, every age. You probably over there were high fiving him. See, the thing is, the thing is, is I am very real. Sure. When it comes to that. Yeah, I mean, a part of me is like, yeah, sure, at a boy. But and she knows this because I even pulled him aside and I said, hey, bud, there's there's some very real things. I will have real conversations with you and I'm totally fine. But you got to promise me there's no embarrassment. There's no shying away from it. Like, just talk to me. Because I'm going to give you very straight, real answers because I want it to be straight and real. I don't want to I don't want to act like your best friend, like your friends do that stuff. Me, though, you know, we were back up in Iowa for a tournament and I was getting there are these, sorry, baby geese. Don't bring up the goose. So there were baby geese and I got a picture and I sent it to her and he started to get a picture and I said, oh, are you getting a picture for her? Yeah. And he goes, dad. And I go, dude, very real. Girls like that because it shows you're thinking of them and it's a baby. It's a baby animal. Yeah, it's a win win, brother. Yeah, yeah. So it was and I was being very like girls like. So I'm trying to teach him the right thing. You know, like girls like that you're thinking of them. Girls like baby animals. Girls like sure. Don't shy away from me. But it's very interesting that you bring that up from because my experience is totally different. I love yours. That's really cool. Like there's you feel like almost there's a fight for the heart. Yeah, she's and I just don't want her to hurt. To break it. But I know, I mean, they're like. I mean, she's in Illinois. I would like to know her last name. I don't think they're going to be sneaking out anytime soon. Run a background check on her parents. See where they live. See if they have any warrants out for their arrest. Totally. I see. I get where you're coming from because as a girl dad, she's sitting in the back seat with her little toy cell phone. She keeps saying she's calling her boyfriend, Billy Bob. And I was like, give me the damn phone. OK, we're not talking to any boyfriends. We're not talking about Bob's. No, no, no buddies. And at one point, I started saying, oh, is that William Robert? So now she's talking to both of them. That's no idea. No idea. So I'm already a little, you know, the cyber security expert in me is like, I'm going to know everything about all of your boyfriends before they do. Yeah, yeah. Real story. Yeah. And I'm going to be the same way with girls. I'm going to call you. Yeah, you probably shouldn't call any little girls, just saying. No, you call you. OK, deal. The cyber security guy. I'm going to say, hey, I need a background check. I need you to run a lien. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Any chance you could figure out who this person is? No, I'm not. I'm calling her. I need to know. You need an address. You need a social. What do you need? What's going on? No, that's a good point because I think, you know, we're so far off from that phase right now that it's not really even like it's not. It's way out, like it's not on the horizon. There's no part of that for us right now. But it's a good point because I think. Here's our son's cute total lady killer. Looks exactly like his father. There's going to be tons of ladies out there like, oh, my gosh, what's going on over there? And the next thing you know, they're texting, pinning numbers on jerseys of the ball game. I don't know if he's going to play. I don't know. Maybe he's into hockey. I don't know. But still got to look out for that. Going to be girls throwing hockey pucks with phone numbers over. That's true. Yeah, exactly. I actually thought that Nick was messing with me. So he was like a girl. I didn't know that her number on her shirt. And I was like, cool, the game's getting ready to start. You're messing with me. I went to the restroom and I hear a girl say, Lucy, did you hear I gave a guy my number? And I was like, I'm the mom, I'm the mom. That's my kid. That one's mine. I know. But I didn't say anything because I'm like, they always say you embarrass them. So just don't say anything. So I left the bathroom and I was like, he wasn't messing with me. No, I wasn't. I didn't know that you thought I was messing with you. That's funny. Because he's so shy and not into girls. No, no, right. It will take a female who they mature much faster. Sure. It will take a female to pursue him probably every day until the day he gets married. Well, maybe. So I thought you were messing with me. Yeah, no, definitely not. You totally, like I had this cool vision in my head of, oh, no, you didn't. You kicked the stall door open. Marlboro Red hanging out of your mouth. Yeah. Not my baby. Not up in this house, not in here. You're like, by the way, I'm that guy's moth. Yeah. But I do feel like I was you yesterday or like maybe a few months ago. It's crazy. It's like, how is he turning 13 on Friday? He should be like seven. Well, we moved here. He was seven or six. He was sick. Yeah, going into first grade. Yeah. So anyways. Wow. It goes. We're not even there. I love that you said, like, you're their safe place. I feel like that's important with, like, motherhood and just parenthood in general. Yeah, you should be. Yeah, no, that's great. The world is scary. You should always be able to trust and go to your parents, right? So I think, I don't know, because it's interesting because I think of it like, so we, you guys are in an interesting era because you would have been to the point where you lived a good chunk before the internet came along. Yeah. Whereas, like, we were right on the cusp of the internet breaking. So, like, we've seen a few phases from, like, being young. But, like, we pretty much have always been around, like, devices and such for the most part. We were probably the last generation to not have devices as kids. So, like, I mean, we're going to use the word shelter, quote, unquote. But, like, the sheltering from the social medias and the things like that, that's like a thing now. It never used to exist when we were kids. You didn't have to worry about that. First you had to worry about was maybe you got, like, one or two cuss words in a song. You're, like, seeing it when you're in the car. If you're, like, think it's not going to be a big deal. Your dad's like, what? What did you just say? Just singing the song, man. Yeah. That's probably the worst that it gets, you know, I don't know, maybe like a little nip slip on a movie or something happens. You never have any idea. I don't know. That's pretty much what it becomes. There's not really a lot out there that you would worry about when we were kids. No. We can ride our bikes still forever. Yeah. Now you let a kid out of your sight. You're like, I am going on a warpath. I'm going to start smacking people. Right. Yeah. It's crazy how it's changed, how quickly it's changed, too, because, you know, like you were saying, we used to ride around 15, 20 miles a day on our bikes and no cell phone. No, nobody knew where you were. And you wouldn't worry. But now it's like we are oldest had a phone in fifth grade because he was coming home to an empty house after school. And then we'll probably do the same. Yeah, same for Madden. But I, if I can't get a hold of them, that's when you hear everything, you have access to all of the bad content around the city all the time. So yeah, makes it hard. I actually said something the other day. What did I say the other day? I was like, I'm going to like cut off for minutes. Yeah, we were in the hotel room and she pointed to the phone and she's like, what is this? And I was like, oh, my gosh, we're old. To be fair, though, like I was. What is this? I love that. This is a two year old saying this. Yeah. She's pretty much like, I don't know what the hell that thing is anyway. Yeah. But we used to have like call our friend's parents and be like, can we talk to them? Is Amy home? Can they play? Can Amy come out and play? That is not a thing in today's world. No, not at all. They're just like, hey, Siri, can you see if they're home? Yeah. Heart monitor. No. Oh, yeah. Got a little crazy over there. Siri jumped in, got aggressive. Stop. I'm trying to call somebody. Anyway, no, good advice. Good advice. So I have lots of mom questions. Do you have other questions? Because I could go all day about mom questions. I have a couple written down, but they're kind of for later. Sure. And a couple of things that I wanted to say that are for later. But my main thing that I really wanted to learn from you two tonight was there's this huge difference between being a father and being a mother. And I want to try to close that gap. It's where I'm trying to go. There are things that you don't understand about us, but we don't want to talk about that. I want to talk about the things that we don't understand about you and one of them you just brought up was that fighting over the heart. That hit. That's a solid hit to the heart. I can't imagine how that would feel. And now I can only imagine like, here's little Nick coming up and he's got his first little girlfriend and my mom, light bulbs. Like, uh-uh, that's my baby. Yep. It's pretty funny. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you're both career-oriented, right? So you've got a career and you're full-time moms and you can be stressed out from work and then not bring it home, but you're bringing it like same problem. There's like no divide there with the gender, but like women as in a whole, you take so much and try to fix so much and try to do so much and you don't ever take a breath. Like we know how to take a breath. Oh, yeah. Men do. We do. Well, that's why there are memes about men being like, oh, you must not be able to hear the baby from that. Yeah, am I going to throw men under the bus right here? Absolutely. Like when it comes to child care or caring for a child, you're just better at it. And I don't know how. How do you get better at it? Do you have to be a woman to get better at it? Not necessarily. It's like I think it agree. Like I think would say something like, you know, if there's single dads out there, of course there are, right? Yeah. So like the reality would be like, of course there are things that are similar, but like there are things that I do that you're like, she's not going to know that. OK, fair point. I'm a dude through and through. Like it's just the way it is. So but as a caring man, I don't know how to do as well. Yes. And like also, there's just like a pretty good argument for like at certain points, children either need like their mother or their father, and they just kind of naturally go that way. Like last night, I had a discipline Madison. And let me tell you, it's the first time I had to really like get on her. Yeah. It tore me up. Oh, yeah. But I was standing my ground on this because I was not happy. Dude, it rips you up, man. Dude, I was I was not happy. But then she just wanted her mom all night. Totally fine. Yeah. Totally warranted until like bed time. And she's like, oh, can I watch Joe on your phone? No, yes. You know, but like things like that, right? Like, yeah, there's naturally things that you probably would handle the situation way different than me. But like there are things that irritate me. Differently than you. Hitting is not a thing that I like to deal with. It makes me a grumpy bear. Whereas you would have just been like, OK, you can just keep doing that. But like, truthfully, like just being a mom is very different than being a dad. What do you think is the biggest difference? Don't say something weird like, oh, I've got boobs. At one point, I didn't do. So I was heavy. Hey, you're heavy, too. You do. Have you brought me? I didn't hold it there. No, I held it. I was also not like huge. I was a big boy. Like the first couple of years after the Marine Corps, I ballooned up. Really? I was eating the same way and not. Oh, yes. Yeah, not nearly. Do you want to do? I don't even know if you know what my number was. How heavy I was. We don't have to get into that. OK, back to Mother's Day. It was big. Yeah, I'll be a boy. All right, Mother's Day. Mother's Day. So I what I'm doing, I'm trying to just let you both know. I think being a mother is crazy. Cool. You guys are killing it and I want to know how you can because you don't even take a breath. But how do you stay even kill? Because you do, because I'll lose my mind. I don't know. For me, it's just like you just do it. I don't really know. It's not really an option. I think I just see that things need to be done. But I think I've always been a go getter, I would say. I don't really like to sit, which you don't appreciate sometimes. It drives me something crazy. Are you saying it too? Like, come sit down. Yes, I will. Oh, I got one more thing. Can I do that to help you? No, no, I'll just do it. Well, I can do it to help you. No, you want to do it as good. Exactly. Well, but then at some point, then at some point, and it's not this is not like a frequent thing, but at some point she's going to be in a mood and that one other thing that I'm not offering to do that night is going to nose dive off the black diamond of life. And it is just the worst and it's not your fault. I'm just saying sometimes it's just easier just to do it yourself. I understand. Then taking the time to explain it and then. You think that I am like crazy OCD in particular. So like when I want to do things like that, I do you. I agree. So I get it. Yeah, I mean, you're a bottle washing champ. I was really good at that too. Yeah, because I don't have the tool kit to support the rest of the feeding. Yeah, you're intentional. I'm intentional over here with my useless nipples. I have nipples, Greg. Can you milk me? Oh my gosh, beat the fuckers. Great, great on a roll. So then being intentional, what else? Anything else? I think we just naturally have like a loving, nurturing instinct. Yeah. Does it ever cross both your minds that you have to be the calm one because you know we'll lose our shit? Yes. What? No, I do, because I do. You, how often are you like, babe, calm down? And I'm like, in the history of calm down, how many people have calmed down? When they were told. It's the thing they teach in 9-1-1 school. I'm not like a raging lunatic, but like we, our fuse is a little shorter. But we're also, I would say that men tend to be rowdier. Yeah. It's like growing up, we would probably wrestle more and punch each other and stuff. True. Idiots. True. Not always the case. I don't think you give yourself enough credit because now that the boys are older, they gravitate well, and you're a little more of the softie like Madden knows he can work you. Oh yeah, he can work me. And not feel well in the morning. And now I have to say, oh no, no, no, no, we're going, we're getting the thermometer. And this wasn't like recently, but we're getting the thermometer because he knows it's a Monday, dad's home, and I get to hang with dad today. And I straight up like have to go, we'll talk to mom. Yeah, I had to set a boundary because I was like, you are believing every word that's coming out of this. But you should see his eyes. So while you say that you're all rough and tough, they know exactly how to squeeze you. And they know that I am way too smart for that. Yeah, I mean, you are the smart one, for sure. Well, I just, I'll cover the bases. If you don't know, you're not wrong. If you're eating. Right. I will totally just buy in at face value. And yeah. Well, he's not feeling well, or he wants me to sleep with him tonight. I'm like, okay, sleep tight. When you are, yeah, you. I do have a little bit of an anxiety when they don't feel well, though, too. Like that is that's real. I do have to like, that might be an inherent dad thing because I could sit up all night and just stare at the door and be like, she okay? Yeah, look at the monitor. She's still breathing, right? She's good. And I but on the flip side of that, I totally get you're like, this is our bed. Come in our room and lay with me. I get that. You're letting the little people rule. Yeah, and I think more so more of an anxiety than anything for me. I get it. Like spiking fever. But you're not wrong. You're not wrong at all. Like, yeah, I take it face value. I don't feel well. Oh, no, man, let's stay home today. I yeah. Yeah, I do. Let's go talk to mom. So I'm the bad guy. Not necessarily the voice of reason. Yeah, there you go. I like that more of the reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And someday they're going to appreciate you more for that than me being the pushover. Yeah, but they are they are pushing you hard lately. Yeah. Nice. Look at me. Just a big cuddly teddy bear. I know that's what I'm saying. You're like not giving yourself enough credit. Yeah, I guess I'm a big baby. I get it, dude. Ann likes to say that my bark is bigger than my bite. And I was like, I just really haven't had to bite anybody yet. True. Yeah. One day, one day is going to come where somebody just pushes me right over the ledge. Yeah, stupid goose. That goose was the first time I'm not going to get into this story. I could go down this path again and I'm not going to do it because it's not good for my mental well-being. OK, OK. And you constantly push me towards this goose. One of these days, a goose is going to come across my path, come after my babies. That's going to be the end. But that shows your protectiveness. I'm like, oh, just walk by, see what happens if it comes at us. Then we'll do something. The goose hissed at my children. I know. I had a conversation with that goose. I wish you could have heard me. I was standing there. I was like, is he going to come? She was on the other side of the bridge. Yeah, yeah. I was like, you're shitting me, right? You're talking to talk to my kids like that, goose? Absolutely not. This ain't going to happen. You can stay over there. I'm going to go by. If you come after me, I'm going to pick your goose friend up and hit you. But do you want to hear what I think is the funniest part of this whole story is it came out with Mitch here and Mitch goes, I think it's illegal to kill him and beat him up. And Nick goes, I would have planted a knife on it then. No, that was hilarious. That was hilarious. That's true. But it was ridiculous. Yeah. And you know what? I would have felt the same if it was a person sitting there hissing at my babies. Actually, I would have probably just assumed they were on drugs or something. Yeah. But still had a little fun with Crack Sparrow. Exactly. I'm just like, hey, no, no, no, no, no, no. You have cat to be kidding me. OK, you can take that down the river. We're not over here. OK, my babies are here right now. We're going to go this way and have a lovely time at the ice cream place. I'll wait one week. I'll wait one week until I bring that story up again. All right. Fine. You know, twisted my arm. This is the question that I 100 percent was not going to reveal to you until this moment in time, because it is very important to me to get both of your perspectives on this. How do you both feel about the man cold? Oh, my gosh. I love this. I was actually waiting for someone to bring this up. Here it is. Can I go first? Yeah, that's great. Each one's the worst one ever. Every time Nick is sick, he has never been as sick as he is that very moment, that very day. And I made a comment to his mom. I said, he is just so sick. He gets so sick and he can't do anything. And she's like, I'm really sorry. I part of that is because of me. I used to go and buy him a lot of coloring books. Do you still get the coloring books or does that part out? No, because he'd be too sick to like color. He can't do it. Can't move his fingers. Thank you. Thank you for getting that. Yes, I just can't right now. I'm silent because I'm dying laughing. No, you will lay in a fetal position and it can't function. Whereas me, I unfortunately got bronchitis as we were going on a family vacation in Arizona over spring break. And I got on a plane and I did this stuff and I packed and I tried to go on a hike. That wasn't a good decision with bronchitis. So I know my limits. But I made it through the trip and we still had a really good time. I was hurting. You were hurting. You would have stayed home. Probably. Go without me. I'm not going to make it. I am dying. The worst one ever. Okay. Just leave the HSA card. Yeah, I can't tell you how many times I've called urgent care. My husband's really sick and they're like, well. This is the big one. He's got, you know, if he's got COVID and he takes the paxlovid, there's a chance of rebound. I'm like, I don't know. He's just never been this sick before. Maybe it's worth it. First time. He's never seen anything like it. It's horrible. How does he do it? Coloring books. That's what your mom told me. I did have a lot of coloring books. She said, I think coloring books and something else, but. Burners. I don't know. She just said. I feel like the coloring books. It's like a thing at this point where it's like kind of like your family pictures. Like they just write on the back. Like summer 1988. Right. Yep. Sniffles. It's just how you should remember every moment. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, that's all right. Your turn. I feel like you don't get sick that often. And when I get sick, I get. I mean, you are like on your deathbed with the stomach flu once a year. It's guaranteed. And I've just learned to close the door, bring you some fluids, and I'll be like, I'll see you when you're better. And it, I mean, here's the deal. I don't want to be around any of that. That's what the reality is. Okay, you would think that I have never seen. That someone is keeping me from my wife and children. But I've never seen them before, because as soon as that door opens and they can come in, I'm like, come in. Come to meet your friends. Oh, yeah, that I'm a little obnoxious about. You're not terrible. No, but there are times when you like I'll be like, man, I just kind of have like a headache and my nose is kind of stuffy. And you're like, oh, boy, here we go. No, I'm like, what's wrong? Tell me what's wrong. Nothing really. I'm just kind of feel like crap. I'm like, OK, then you're fine. Yeah. But like, I don't complain a lot about it. I'll say like one thing and the next thing you know. You're probably worse about being sore after you play like five. So go on, go on. That's your equivalent of being called playing five. What's it called? Corporate challenge softball games. And I mean, like, so first of all, I would like you to know that I had to do that for the squad. Got to sell out. Yeah. Yeah. Not out there for a long time. Oh, we were out there for a long time. But it's either one hundred percent or zero percent. That's what you get. Yeah, right. And we get the recovery. OK, can I tell you guys a really funny story about co-ed softball that I got in trouble for by my wife? I was playing one year. Every year, it's like, please just don't hurt someone. Because apparently I'm very much the person that will hurt someone established. So I play in field because that's what I know. And I get a ball hit to me. And in co-ed softball, if you're not familiar with it, men use a larger ball than the women. Yeah, yeah, interchangeable. So the woman's up, hits the ball to me. Everything is normal about this play. I make a very normal play. And when I throw it at the first baseman, the first baseman steps and extends their glove. And I mean, if they weren't turned a little bit, this ball would have hit him dead in the chest, truthfully. It just goes right under their arm and hits this woman right in the side of her chest. Oh, no. Absolutely crumples her, drops her to the ground. So I'm like, shit. Were you there? Yes, you were there. Because you were, yeah, yeah, back in the day. So I, I kind of watch. I just put my head down and I'm like, oh, please, nobody come over here. That one belongs to me. That's that's my problem there. So I'm like, of course, like, I am so sorry. Like that had hurt. That would that's terrible. You can't make that. I can't. There's no way I could have tried to hit her on the run. Yeah, right. Made this like it was all circumstantial, right? So at first, like their guys come running out of the dugout, like, oh, man, I'm like, pump the brakes there. Everybody's an athlete. They're like coming out. They were mad at first. And then they kind of realized, I'm like, guys, what do you want me to do here? Like, I can't try to hit her like that. Yeah. And then they were like, I guess that's a good point. If I could have hit her on the run like that, I'm not playing go at softball. Let me tell you, I am in the show. There's no way. So fast forward to the end of the inning. I go out, I go out to the bleachers and I was like, I feel terrible. Like that had to have hurt so bad. That had to have been just absolutely terrible. She's like, why are you throwing the ball so hard? And I was like, I'm just I don't have like a 50% button to where I can just make the play. Like, I just make the play like I make. Yeah. Because I'm used to doing that. So and I mean, I'm not throwing 90 across the field. Like, you know, I threw it normal. So I took my notes and I went back to the dugout and this same woman came back the next inning. It's the same ball right to me. So I just I take it and I throw it straight up into the sky on this huge lob to the first baseman. First baseman catches it and she's just on her way back to the dugout. She didn't even care. She didn't even run. She ran right back to the dugout. So then her boyfriend is coming out and he gets the second base and he's like, hey, great job, man. And I was like, yeah, that was that was pretty rough. Like, sorry about that. He's like, you hit her right in the tit. I was like, well, I kind of assumed when she's holding her chest. Yeah, yeah. This isn't a planned thing. And he's like, yeah, she'll be fine. We all hope. I was like, are we do we need to like hope like, is this like a situation? Like, do we need to like have a talk about this? Like, this feels like you guys are really invested in this this injury that could have happened to anyone. Like, she could have gotten this. She could have walked into a doorway and gotten the exact same thing. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, it just kept going and going. Finally, they let it go. I'm like, dude, get give it up, guys. Come on. Good. There's nothing I can do here. But anyway, if that's that's my big softball story. So how did you get there? Because you're talking about softball and how I how I couldn't. This is what we do 100% or 0%. We spiral and I love it. And I love a good softball story. It's better than a goose story. I wonder what would have happened if she had like implants or some. Would you have like popped it? I don't know. I said I didn't throw it that way. But if you ask my wife, I threw it one hundred and twelve. And she's like, what are you doing? That's amazing. Why would you throw it so hard? Because I'm a man. Yeah. I'll punch bad guys and I kiss girls. Yeah. You know, anyway. Gosh, that poor man cold. So my version of the man cold is being sore after workouts. Yeah, I would say. Lady with the sore breast. I hope you're listening and you are all better today. I'm hoping she's better, too. I was like, I mean, we hope, right? We hope. OK, OK. So do you guys have questions for us before we go to our break? Do you have any questions? Are you sure you're giving me a look? Nothing. There's something bouncing around. You just can't figure out how to say it. Anything. This is a circle of trust. I am just throwing down movie. Oh, right now. After movie, after movie. You're going for it. And you're right in with the meet the parents phase. Yeah. Oh, I said meet the Foggers. It's OK. It's OK. You you were on it because I got you. Same. Yeah, same saga. Yeah. Nothing. You have no questions. I mean, Winston's like, come on. I know. Poor buddy. He knows a podcast. Yeah, he does. Going on down here. What's your favorite thing about watching us be mothers? Oh, that is a good one question. For me, I there's a lot that you do that I just am not really able to do. But seeing like the way our kids are with you is a lot of fun. Like I think about what I used to think about. Being a dad would be like. And I don't truthfully know 100 percent what I would say that I thought. But like when you become a dad, you just kind of feel that. It's like how we talked about before. Like when I was in high school or college and somebody was like, hey, we're having a baby. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. And now I'm like, hell yeah. You're having a baby. That's rad. It's one of the best things that we're going to have in your whole life. Yeah, that's just awesome. So I mean, just seeing you. Well, first of all, seeing you get through a pregnancy is a whole different beast, especially because you are just hilarious as a pregnant woman, because you don't really get like you. I've said it from the beginning. I was like, you're going to be one of the ones that has like horrible morning sickness and throw up all the time. And she's like, no, no, that's not going to be me. And then she comes home and she was like, well, way to work. I threw up in my lunch box. Oh, no. Like, I don't know. There's just kind of a there's an aura about it. That's like just cool to see you running around playing with Madison and holding Zach, doing all the things. You call him our little koala because the way he hangs on you is hilarious. But things like that. I don't know. It's just kind of cool to be a part of, but not really be able to like, I can't really interject on that. That's like inherently you thing that I can't really do. Yeah, I don't know. That's kind of my thing. What do you think? I like it. What I think is cool about watching you as a mom is to selflessly care for something more than yourself. Even though I think you should be able to take time for yourself, you don't. And I think that's cool. And it's like no sweat for you to do it. And your love language, we all know. Well, we all, you will know that we know in this house is Katie's a big foodie. She loves the cook. If she makes you something, you're in. She loves you. 100% know that she was not the one that burnt the pizza. No, it was totally me that burnt the pizza. But just watching you be so happy about anything you make for a meal for this family and you sit down and you go, I love taco night or I love meatloaf night. I love and it's whatever meal we have on the plate. She'll say, I love this night. It's so funny. And the boys and I, we all laugh because we're expecting it. We're like, when she's going to say it, but that is cool to me to see that you. I do not like cooking. I'll do it right. But it's going to be a frozen meal. Sure. And I know how to cook. Let's be real. But you treat it like love and seeing you put your love into something and then give it to us. And then the way you love them just for who they are, being able to see the sunshine through the clouds and the rainbows and it's pretty neat. Nice. That's awesome. Very sentimental guy. In touch with your emotions. You know, here's the thing, man. Just learned today, about 15 minutes ago, I'm a big teddy bear. You're a big teddy bear. I'm a softy. Big old softy. I'm a softy. I love it. Anyway, we should probably take a quick break. Okay, let's take a quick break. All right, take a quick break. Mug back. We're back. Fast break. Nice basketball reference. Nice. Nailed it. Let the doggy in. Yep. He might be down at some point. Nah, he's locked up in a bedroom right now. Yeah, in the broom closet. Everybody thinks he sounds like Harry Potter. He is laying on a big comfy bed right now. That sounds rad. He's all good. Being a dog would be awesome. Especially that dog. She gets a chill all day. Dude, he goes to the barbershop, he hangs out, sees people. Every time the front door opens, he runs to it. He's like, hey, what's going on? Yeah, I'm Winston. He's so funny. What's your name? What's your favorite color? Pretty much. But he's more like this. What's your favorite color? You know what? I'm in for it. Look at my bandana. I think that Winston in general is very fancy. We've said this before. We have. I think he's very fancy. He's definitely not a... He's no lowbrow guy. Very highbrow. Yeah, yeah. You know what's really funny? I'm looking at the questions I jotted down. Yeah. I am a softy, man. You're such a softy. I'm going to have a complex about that. I got to get my rep up. I got to go stab somebody. Okay, half a star. I am laying it on thick with movies tonight, dude. I love it. I love it. This from a movie. And he brought it back to me with half a star. We can sell it to pay-per-view. Superstar versus half a star. Nice. Any ideas? I'll give you three guesses. No. Oh, yeah. That's not it. I'll give you a hint. Adam Sandler. Not that one either. Try again. Nothing? Oh, nothing. Starts with the and ends with longest yard. I have seen that. There you go. Yeah, great job. That one. Yeah. Yeah, see? Nailed it. Got to get my rep up. Got to go stab somebody. Hey, that's a great movie. If you haven't seen it, you should go see it. I'm a big softy, though. So let's start with one of your softy questions, then. OK. Ladies, what is one thing you hope your kids remember about you? Great question. Like we're dead? Yeah. If you're gone, what is one thing you most want your kids to remember about you? Probably that I love them more than life itself. Yeah. I like that. I was going to say the same thing. Yeah. How much they're loved and how much I love others. Yeah. You're good at that. Love it. You're very good at that. I like it. I'm in for it. I do have one funny one. Fire away. What's your dream minivan? She's no. Next question. No. What's your dream minivan? I actually do have a dream minivan. Really? Well, this episode isn't about you. This isn't about me. Is this like you're going to like a van life van like you're going to live in the mountains? No, no, this is like total baseball sports mom, like minivan. What's your dream minivan? I will say last year when my car got hit at Home Depot and I had to get it fixed. Yeah. And now I have to do it again because people just hit me in parking lots. Nice. I had a minivan and it was the easiest few days of my life because kids can get on both sides and then you just push a button and the doors close. There was so much space for all the baseball gear. It was like spring break. So we were carpooling kids to baseball camps. That's the thing. The thing you can stop looking at me with that tone. I am not. I'm not a minivan mom. No, I'm not. No, it was very convenient and I see why. Do you remember what it was? Would that be your dream minivan? It was a Pacifica. No. Okay. What would it be? Oh, man. Tough crowd. I'm good with like a big SUV. I would like a couple. This is a mini for traveling. What is your dream minivan? I guess it would be that. Listen up Escalade. Pacifica because it's the only minivan I've ever driven short term while my car was there. What is your dream Mercedes M350 Sprinter van? That would be awesome. Full size. What's your dream minivan? I'm not even sure I can name. As long as you don't say an Astro van. The only one I know is the Chrysler Pacifica. No, that's not true because you've driven a couple times the Honda Odyssey. Like when we were in Florida and stuff. Odysseys are nice. I've never driven a Kia one. Maybe you did in your dreams. They do have the most space though. They do. The Kia Carnival. Oh, the Kia Carnival. Dude, they're so cool. Are they? Yeah. I would not know. The captain's chairs in the back swivel. Okay, now that's rad. We need that. Especially for car scenes. They are sweet. Just like in general. I'm going to assume they don't swivel to the outside. Okay, yeah. Probably swivel to the inside. I'm thinking that's probably not good for cars. But we were just looking for a mom car. Yeah, we were. I mean, we spent a lot of time looking for your car. A lot of time. The problem was you lose the trunk space with the third row. Which we were not willing to accept. Which is not the case with the minivan. But you also don't lose as much, which is why we went with the Palisade. Right. Palisades are nice. Yeah, we spent some time looking for that. But we also drove a bunch of cars, too. Trying to figure out what you liked. A lot of things were just... I guess technically those are titled vans. At least they are in Michigan. Changes state to state. But like my Explorer was a van in Michigan. What? Yeah. What does that mean? Weird. In Michigan it's a van? Yeah. It's just how they're deeded. How they're titled. Yeah. Wait. Due to wait. Yeah, I know. Full of useless knowledge. I did not know that. Yeah. We've never really been anywhere. We're pretty sheltered. Stay here. Where the van's a van. It says van and I don't think, oh yeah, an Escalade. Yeah, right, right. Look at that van. Oh yeah, you mean the huge Tahoe? Yeah, what a stupid van. Yeah. Why is it shaped all like that? Toyota. Ground effects package all black. Okay. Ground effects package all black, black leather, tinted windows. I have and I already have my vanity license plate. SWGR. Nice. WGN. Swagger wagon. Swagger wagon. See, that's fair. But like it's not like going to be like a Dubai situation where like you have to spend like millions on your license plate. Your car is just like cheap, like 800,000. Give me two. Okay, there you go. Swagger wagon. How much time has this been taking that one? Didn't take me long. No. It's just the way my brain works. You have to ask your AI chat bot. No. Say something cool for a dad. He's wanted that for a long time. I have wanted that for, I would totally get a van. I would not get a van. I would. You know, I just, I do, I don't feel it. I don't feel it. When I get in the van, I don't feel the power. I don't feel the testosterone pumping through my veins. Feel kind of like, okay. I have two more. Fire away. I have two more. I have like six. This one's great. What's something you swore you'd never do as a mom, but now do all the time? What do you think? Think about when you were a little kid and your mom said like, I think mine is hunger at bedtime. And I'm like, okay, fine. What do you want? Yeah. Or like, I'll give you a strawberry. Boy, you sure did. Assuming they ate dinner. I'll give you a mini carrot. You know, just instead of, I think back in the day, our parents were like, you're going to bed. I don't care if you're hungry. You know, if you didn't eat your dinner, you're going to bed. And I'm like, no, I'll give you something. But I will say though, like, times were way harsher back then. Way more serial killers back in our parents' day than there was. It was abrasive. Like, it was straight abrasive. Yeah. There was some aggression behind that. Go to bed, be in a hungry situation. What do you think? I would say probably sleeping in our room or sleeping in our bed. Yeah, but like that's, yes, but there's a line to that too. Because like, you're pretty stern on like, you are not staying in here. Like, okay, come in here at 5 a.m. Right. Or in some cases when I'm like, excuse me, you still have the baby. Put it back in its bed. That's true. But they're so cuddly. Yeah, that's true. 100%. Yep. In which case you just go into his room and you fall asleep in the chair. And then I don't ever see you again. All right, I'm going to go to work. I guess I'll see you in 10 hours. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. Sometimes do ships pass in in the night? That's... Yeah, exactly. You speak ship too? I do. I do. Yeah, ours is in the form of baseball. He goes one way, I go the other way. And then we come back and I always joke around with her and I'll say like, see you in eight years. See you in three, see you in five. Yeah. Is it winter yet? Yeah. Even in the winter. Yeah, all the time. Yeah, we're at the indoor facilities. Yeah, it's wild. I get it. I get it as well as anyone. It is fun though and it will end someday and I don't want it to end. And I know we've talked about that too. I know she's actually said before, was it me or you? I can't remember. But when the boys are out of the house, like if they're not playing baseball anymore, we're going to be that little old couple that's like, who needs some honorary grandparents? Who can we follow? Come sit at the field. Yeah. Who needs a grandma and grandpa? It would be so much fun. That's true. That's true. And you know what? As grandparents, nobody's going to question you. You guys just went like now, they'd be like, Yeah, you guys are weird. Right, right. Show up as a, you know, lovely old couple and Yeah, it's a whole lot easier. Take a little team under your wing. Yeah. It'd be fun. Okay, just see old Nick now. Here we go. Sitting out there in your chair. Yep. Your score book. Babe, I dropped my pen. Can you tell me what happened on that play? See it now. Yeah. Barking at the umpire. Oh, I totally would. Love it. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to be barking at some umpires. It is fun. Probably from inside the fence, but still. Okay. Okay. This one is only as difficult as you make it. Perfect. What does the perfect Mother's Day look like for each of you? Oh, that's a great question. And I've heard, yeah, right. And I did. I heard a month. And what prompted this is I heard a mom yesterday bring it up to her son. All I want is for y'all to leave the house. Yeah. Fair point. So I was like, man, that's a really good question because there's not a wrong answer. Good for her for saying I just want a quiet house. Yeah. But like what, what would it look like for each of you? I think it's hard because like Mother's Day is honoring the mother part of you with the, which is with your children. You sound like her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's that part. But I would say I love breakfast. So maybe some breakfast and then always down for a pedicure and then probably hanging with the babies. I can do approximately two thirds of those. You're going to have to see Rex for the other. That's actually her pedicure guy's name. That's so funny. So she'll say something. And she'll be like, yeah, I was telling you the other day. I was like, you had to have been telling Rex. You were not telling me. Yeah. Oh, that's great. Rex guy. I think. I don't know. I've never seen him. That's nice to work. Perfect. Swing by one day. What's up, Rex? I'm the other half. Heard a lot about you. Yeah. Nothing. What about you? Oh, perfect day for you. Yeah. So I think along those lines, a quiet day does sound really nice, but I also know that I spend so much time at work and then we spend so much time at the ballparks and apart from each other that I cherish our time together. Yeah. I also like some breakfast. Breakfast is so good. Breakfast is so good. She loves a good pedicure. I took a hand for a pedicure today, yeah. Work perks. I do like to plant some flowers. We normally do. I did some already, but I may find myself planting a few more on Sunday if it's nice out. Or you tell me where and I will plant them. I'll do it. I'll do it. No. You're just going to screw up her flowers. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. I'm pretty low-key. No, I know you are. I really don't have many needs or wants. No? It's a whole lot like you. I'm pretty easy to please. Yeah. I get it. You don't have a whole lot of things you want generally. No. Pretty basic. Gosh, we hit the jackpot, dude. We really did. Because it can be a lot worse. Oh, yeah. High maintenance thing would not have worked well for me because let me tell you, I am a high maintenance daddy. I don't know if that's true, but still. Still. Okay. Good stuff. I think we can make that happen. Breakfast or brunch? Either one. Maybe we'll probably go to church and then. Brunch. There you go. Some reservation. It's your favorite spot. You remind me how to spell it. Nice. Good one. I knew exactly what that was. Zoom. Yep, yep. It's the end of the day. It is. It is, yeah. Okay, you got other ones? I've got a couple comments now, but let's go to the questions. You ready for some heat? Bring the heat. All right. What's the most useless talent you have? Like that we use or just like a thing? Just a talent that you have that you possess. You're like, oh, I can't really do anything with that. It's neat. I don't know. Enthralled. I'm going to be something out there. No. Nothing. You guys can't like whistle weird. You can't like skip on one foot for like 100 yards. The first thing that comes to mind is I can touch my nose with my tongue. Or my tongue to my nose. That is a wild thing. I wouldn't consider that a talent. It's useless. It's a useless talent. Not everybody can do it. Not everybody can do it. No. Can you try? No. Okay. Nobody can. Later. I don't think I can either. I can't. A lot of cobweb arthritis. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Nothing? Nothing? You do have one talent, but it's not useless. What is it? You can taste anything and go, oh, yeah. It has this, this, this, this, and this in it. And I'll make it. And then she'll make it. And it's like, dude, that's cheesy corn from Jack Stack. Yeah. I like how you pick the one thing that anybody can do is to taste the cheesy corn. Well, no, but like that, anything. I'm just saying without a recipe. Oh, dude. I see now. Without the recipe. You can just make it? She can make it, but it's not useless. It's almost summer. I don't use recipes. And you'll go, oh, it wasn't that difficult. Do you know what you put in that? I will look it up. A little of this and that. Yeah. Perfect. It just turns out perfect. Yeah. If you hear me say that run, just a little of this and that. Yeah. Okay. We'll eat later. I have to ever make nacho cheese for our house when we make pretzels. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Probably the one thing she's like, I just can't get that right. Like, no useless talent whatsoever. I mean, I can do a headstand still with like my. Dude, this is news to me. That's wild. I tried to show the kids a couple of weeks ago with the twins. You should do it right now. Right here on the counter real quick. I need like my yoga mat. Dang. Your head was sore. Oh, from doing it on the floor. I see. Yes. Got it. Got it. I thought you were saying like, oh, my head was sore so I didn't do it. I was trying to get them to all do it in the office. Okay. You guys might have been recording. I don't know, but I was trying to keep them. Dang. That's pretty cool. I did not know that. I definitely did know that. Can you do that? Not freestanding. I can do it against a wall. Well, still my elbows are on my knees. Okay, that counts. This sounds really weird. Sounds like a song. It sounds really weird to try to explain. It's a headstand, not a handstand. It's a three point handstand is what it's called. Because your head is down. Yeah, like that. Little baby deer on ice. I vividly remember all the times, even to this day, that your sister is in our living room trying to do stalls. Oh, yeah. Headstands and all the things and just slam crashes into the ground. Yes. Love it. Yeah, I would show you, but I would definitely get hurt on this. Yeah, I don't want you to get hurt. Yeah, you definitely don't want to get hurt. No, I have to do an outtake. Okay, okay. I like a good useless talent. I love it. What is your favorite meal to make? And what is your go-to on nights when you just got to get it done? My favorite meal to make is his grandma's noodles, homemade noodles and chicken. And before she passed, I got her chicken pan. She always had chicken in a certain pan. And then my go-to, I love taco salad night. Yeah, totally a go-to. Taco salad night is a hot topic. When your kids eat taco salad, it's a game changer. It's easy. Really all you got to do is make the beef. That's so simple. Yeah, very. I respect it. Yeah. You don't love tacos, so we don't do that all the time. I'm sorry. You're going to be salty about that, but you don't enjoy tacos like other people. That is 100% not true. I'm not going to eat tacos. I don't want to eat tacos every day. That's just my deal. I don't. But as soon as I say anything about like, yeah, that doesn't sound good. Oh, yeah, that's right. You don't like it. If it doesn't sound good tonight, it means I automatically disliked that item for the rest of the time. The whole world has to know that I don't like it. Do we need to phone Dr. Phil here about tacos? Yeah. This happens way too much. Yeah, I'm not feeling that. Yeah, you don't like them. But that's a you and your mom thing. Yeah. Your mom's way worse about that. Yes. I would say our go-to is beef stroganoff. Oh, it's the bomb. Just like quick and easy. Heck yeah. It's the bomb. So good. When do we eat? I know. Come right now. Left it for the babysitter. True. Super easy. Yeah. Yep. Madison tested the noodles. Yep. And then I'd say our favorite, probably chicken gyros. That is a great one. Yeah. That's really good. Yeah. Chicken gyro recipe is really good. Anything on there. Heck yeah. Yeah. Grill on the griddle. You can get down with that all the time. It's true. Okay. Okay. Let's get back to the old mom questions then. What is something you need your husband to do more of? Ask me what I need. I'm so bad at that. It's the mental low that moms carry. And we've tried to work on it for a really long time. I am bad. I've even told you this. I'm really bad at asking. So if I see something, I'll do it in hopes that that's what was there. Like, you know, there's a load in the washer with the lid down. So I know it's got to be switched over. So I'll do that in hopes that that's what she would have needed. Instead of me just asking, why is it so difficult for me to ask? I don't know. It's a great question. I've said, hey, put it on your calendar for Sundays. And I could ask you the same. What do you need? But most of the time, mine's not as important. No, I just have a laundry list of things that I've read in emails for school. And yeah, the kids need and what's due and. Yeah. Field day and parents eat. We're definitely going to join email zero percent chance. You're going to give me any sort of coherent information from an email. Okay, good stuff. Yeah, that is good. So that's your new commitment in this 2025 year. I'll be held accountable now. Try it again. Yeah, I ask you every week. Every week. What would you ask your wife? What would you ask your wife? Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. What about you, smoking hot Fox? I could probably stay the same. I'm trying to think. Mic drop. I ask you so many times what you need and you're like, oh, nothing. So then I mean, it goes both ways. I have to do better about asking for help. Did we just become best friends? Yes. Well, not just now. We just got it amplified. You want to go do karate in the garage? Yes, 100 percent. Can we make bunk beds later? Yes. And I think taking babies when you get home. Yeah. So that I can cook in peace. I do a lot of that. The problem is, is that one of those babies is really into helping you cook now. And your go to is like, go find mommy. I'm like, no, you just got home. But to be fair, it's just to get out of the clothes I was in for the day and then I'm good. No, I know. But I do do that. I do say that. Yes. Yeah. That's true. I'm like, they didn't realize I was gone. Do you listen to music when you cook? Yeah. If we're all home, usually. Yeah, a lot of dance parties at the household. Yep. That's a thing. She has music on when she's cooking. Oh, yeah. If I'm cooking, I usually have a movie on. Yeah, I'm the same way. I'll throw a podcast on occasionally. Yeah. Maybe this podcast. Podcastception. Boom. Wait a minute. That's me. I wonder if it's a good one. Hopefully, with any luck. OK, two really good ones. Really good ones. If you're going to be the lead singer of a band. I love this. What band would it be? And what would be the song you choose to open your concert with? Are we making up a band name? If you want to make up a band name. I'm not here to... Oh, or do we just join another band? Choose to join one. I mean, I think you should market your own. Yeah. Yeah. What would you call it? You need to bring a band from zero to 100 million followers. A band would do that. They say... I just want to join one. They say, take the first street you can remember that you lived on and then your middle name. Picardy Marie. Boom. Oh, there it is. That wasn't the first street I ever lived on. That was the coolest. I mean... Yeah, that was pretty cool. That was a cool street. Sun Ray Marie. There you go. There you go. OK. What, was it like a folk band? Probably. Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, so what's like the folk song? How does that go? You can just go ahead and sing it for us. It's easy. Yeah, yeah. I love taco night. Banger. That is. Extra cheese and guacamole. Yeah, be the guacamole, baby. You don't like tacos, so... It's true. Can't stand tacos. You wouldn't know. No. Wouldn't have any idea. OK. All right. So we know she's making a band. OK. That is hard. It's hard because you're the musical one. I have like... Zero musical ability, I would say. OK, so I tell her all the time that I have missed my calling, that I should have just been a front man for a band for many years. I could certainly put on some leather pants and shake around. Like you listen to a song one time and you know all the words. I listen to the same song like a hundred times and I'm like... That actually did just happen with Sleep Token recently when their first initial single came out. It was like Friday and I was like, oh my gosh, this song is so good. You got to listen to it. So we're listening to it going on the road and I'm like singing along with it. She's like, when did this come out? 18 hours ago. If I like a song though, I'll do that. I can pick up on it. Maddie's kind of the same way. Yeah. So our daughter, she picks up on it quick. She knows the words. Madden needs to. Madden. Yeah, you're saying. Yeah, that's wild. Nothing? Nothing in there? I'd probably make my sisters do it with me. 100% I could see that. Something sisters, but I don't know what. The Kansas chicks. There you go. Yeah, Kansas chicks. There you go. What would you guys sing? Oh, some country. I have no idea. What would you sing? Lenexa City Blues. Ah, that's a great song. I'm sorry. I'm speaking for both of you. That's true. I love that song. It's one of my favorites. One of my favorites. Okay. So we'll just go ahead and call that a flop. I'm going to ask you an oldie but a goodie. A.K.A. from last episode. Would you rather. I love this game. One horse size duck or 100 duck size horses. I knew I was going to get the look. Don't go too fast. I'm going to go with the first one. I mean, one seems easier than. I don't know. That's a big ass duck. Wow, that is a big duck. I mean, I think I lose either way. So I don't know. Your first grade teacher is kind of the same. Sometimes they're all swarming. I like that. I'll take them all. But you got to. It's a bunch of horses. It's a bunch of tiny horses that are the size of ducks. You'll take the horses. Yeah, I got this. Okay. Okay, cool. Okay, I like it. So I thought of this one from deep down in the depths of my brain, which I know you know is a great place to be. So our daughter very much loves Disney princesses. So we watch a lot of princess movies. And a lot of times she believes she is a princess, but she's not wrong. She's our little princess. She's the best. In those movies, when princesses are going through some times and struggles, they look down at the water and they start singing. Yeah. She's already like, what? If you were a Disney princess, which princess would you be? You can make one up if you'd like. And when you look down at the water, what would you start singing? Yes. Yes. Do you have a princess in mind? Kind of, but I don't know that it's going to be anywhere near. I've got one in mind, but I don't know if it'll be anywhere near. Okay. Okay. Don't everybody talk at once. I feel like I have an idea. You probably have more reference to Disney princesses right now. I mean Moana is like our whole world right now. Moana's great. I like the beach and the ocean. I'm not sure what I would sing. You'd be Moana. What would you sing? Do you want to build a stone? Hey, this is your world, not mine. Yeah, I'm not sure I have any lyrics. I don't know. Okay. I'm going to ask you this over and over throughout the end of time to make sure that we get that. We're going to hold you to it. We're going to have you a phone in one day. Deal. Phone a friend. Phone a friend. Don't work. We can do it. Who are you thinking? Nope, you have to answer first. Cinderella? No, that's not who I was thinking. If that's yours though, go. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I was just thinking blonde hair. That was easy. Who are you thinking? I need you to answer this. Okay, I'll say Cinderella. Okay. What song would you sing? You can make one up. Make one up. Baby Got Back. Oh, I love it. Look down and you're just in your feels and all of a sudden. Did we just become soulmates? Yep. Together forever. I love it. Baby Got Back. It's ridiculous. Love it. Well, that's awesome. Thanks for playing along with my stupid game. It's always fun. I thought you guys were going to ask us what kind of animal we wanted to be. I was thinking Merida. She 100% told me she was not going to answer that question. Really? Yeah. The mystical creature one? Yeah. Yeah. You're Merida. Mythical. Mythical. What did I say? Mystical. Mystical. The Disney princess. I guess it's technically the same. Merida. What's that mean? She's the Scottish princess from Brave. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know why? Because you will wreck that bear. You will wreck that bear. Yeah. We haven't watched that one. That's probably a little outside of her age gap right now. Probably right now, but it is really good. Yep. Okay. Since I know you're dying to answer it, what mythological creature would you be and what sound does it make? Yeah. What is it? I got nothing. You got something. I told you. What would it be? I don't have one. Come up with something. No. You need to. You should definitely come up with something. Nothing. She's not going to budge. Not going to budge on that. Okay. What about you? You've heard this eight weeks in a row. I would probably... I mean, I love llamas, so I'm just going to throw some wings on the llama. Nice. I think I quite like some llama wings. Llama wings. Now, is that... I could spit on people. But is that llama going to spit fire? Oh, no. That's like Mario. No. Spit. Just spit. Cool. Are they going to be hidden like that part on Jumanji where the horse just takes off and just goes flying? No. And she's out for the world to see. That's basic. I love it. Winged llama. I love it. There's a llama farm not far from here. I know. We've been. It's super cool. Oh, have you? What does it sound like? Just flying through the air. You're just sputtering. I'm just spitting. That's all I'm going to do. Not 100% sure. Look, it's a pinto. It's a Ford. No, it's a spitting llama. Awesome. I love you very much. I really do. And I'm glad you chose me. And I'm glad that you had babies with me. So you're smoking hot. Double win for me. And our babies are awesome. Thank you for being a great mommy to them. They love you very much. I like that. You're amazing. Ditto. Nice, nice. Like that. It's been super fun, though. We've talked about it a while. It really has. Moms are great, man. And I do have a couple things that I want to read off because I think you all need to hear it. And I think all moms out there need to hear it. No matter your situation. Whether you're with somebody or you're not. You're single mom in it. You've got a great companion. Whatever. But I just want you to know you juggle chaos with grace. You give love without limits. And you show up even when you're running on empty. Shout out to the moms who can find lost shoes with a single glare. Survive on coffee and snacks from your kid's plate. And somehow keep humans alive and thriving. While forgetting where they put their own phone. You're the real MVPs. Happy Mother's Day, you hilarious, heroic multitaskers. Hmm. That is our superpower. Yep. And I love you. Sorry, I just like to play with the effects sometimes. Just a big old child. But seriously, love you. Thank you for joining us on the show and supporting our efforts here. I know it's a very big undertaking when I have to leave for 17 hours at a time. Just putting some food on the table. No big deal. Actually, you're doing that. I'm not. But it's awesome. And as always, thanks for joining us for another episode. Possibly our most well-rounded episode so far. I think so. Yeah. I really like this one. Leveled out. Because the looks I was getting the whole time. Absolutely. It was great. But it was cool to have them on to kind of see how, well, they know how we are, but how we are together and how we just like to spitball. Oh, yeah. But I hope you learned something tonight. I did. I know I did. I did learn something really cool. With the whole heart thing. I like that. But you're appreciated. And all mamas are appreciated. You hardworking badasses. Pretty much that, yeah. Pretty much that. Yeah. I think we're just going to leave it at that. I think we're going to leave it at that. Mic drop, baby. Mic drop. Oh, can I ask one more question? Yes. Whose name should be first? Mine or his? Definitely Nick's. Nick's name should be first. Come on. You're biased. Nick's name should be first. Right. They're totally like, dude. They have no idea what's going on. Come on. They are so done. Well, thanks for joining us, both of you. Happy Mother's Day to everyone as well. Yeah. Happy Mother's Day. And to everybody listening, happy Mother's Day. Yep. Hope you guys have a good weekend. Yep. And until next time, we out. We out.