Unspoken with Nick & Nick Season 1 Recap

Welcome to another episode of Unspoken with Nick & Nick! 

In this episode we take a few minutes to chat through what we thought of our first season here on the show and what we hope to see out of season 2! Let us know anything you want to see happen on this season of Unspoken with Nick & Nick, we are excited for what is coming! 

Thank you all for joining us and we hope you enjoy the show! 

-Nick & Nick

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Welcome to Unspoken, where everyone is the- Welcome back to another episode of Unspoken with Nick and Nick. It is season two. We have officially started season two. It's wild to think about it. We've taken quite a bit of time off, truthfully. And the reality is that we wanted season two to be... Season one was like, all right, we've got our stride. We figured it out. We want to do figure out what makes sense. How do we continue to do this? Figure out what things got in our way for misses. So the weeks that we weren't able to post, it's like, okay, now we know how to mitigate that better. Exactly. So things like that, it was like, all right, that makes sense. But then looking at all of the stuff that goes back, season two is going to be way better because now we know. Well, and we have a lot of that constructive feedback too from people. Things that they might not have liked, things they like. But we've gotten a lot of good... Yeah, baby. Love you, babe. We got a lot of that good feedback, things that a lot of the listeners want to see, want to hear. And it's just a fine tune. Season two is going to be a fine tune. And season three is going to be better than season two. Yeah. Just the way it works. Just keep it rolling. Right? Let's keep it rolling. I think too, as we continue to get better, obviously we'll expand more. It's just interesting to think about how much has changed from the first episode to now. Even just comfort level in the room, right? The atmosphere, it's so laid back. It always has been, but now especially, man, it was like... It's super easy. You don't have to worry about it. And I think too, because we talked about this, because you made a funny joke when I walked in. You're like, I forgot how to podcast. It's pretty easy, right? Because in the beginning, when we first started, you were like, I don't know what I'm doing. And I was like, literally just speak. Yep. I was like, you're good at that. I'm good at that. There's a talk, right? Like, you do this for a living, Nick. Yeah. Come on, man. You just talk to people at the barbershop all day. Just do that. Dude. Yeah. Well, in a lot of ways, that's exactly what it is, right? Especially for what we're trying to do. So in season two, one of my goals, and tell me if this is something you're thinking too, because I know that we've talked about it a little bit, but one of my big goals for season two is to bring on more, definitely more people, but I would be interested in getting more collective groups together too. Yes. Like, we have opportunity to bring in multiple people at a time. Not to do a huge panel. I'm not interested in doing five or six at a time, but two or three people at a time would be fun because it's a big conversation. And I think the reality for us is that we have... Our goal is to siphon out a lot of that information from people that other people don't get to hear. Yeah, right. Exactly. Like, it's reality. So I think that the reality here for us is going to be how do we do that best? And sometimes it's not us being the interviewer, so to speak. Yeah. Like, that would be much easier. More of the panel conversation. Just conversation is basically what I... Circle, table right over there. Yeah. More dreams. So my... Yeah, one of... Outside of... Well, it has to do with the podcast, but really the set for the podcast is one of my goals, is to have a poker style table over there so we can have you and I and two or three others, and we're all looking at each other, got the cameras going, and we're talking. And what I like about that is it's not just you and I and one or two other people. It could be up to three, probably not four. Four would probably get a little crazy. But different minds, different ways to look at things. I'm big on that. I love... Yeah, absolutely. I'm in tune a lot. Like an emotional intelligence, right? I have a pretty high emotional intelligence. I pride myself on that. And to have different minds look at the same issue or the same topic in five different ways is really intriguing to me, and I think that'll bring a lot to it. 100% agree. And I think that's a good point because I was thinking about this a lot kind of as we were determining what season two was going to look like. One of my big things was just allowing more room... And this is some feedback I've gotten too, actually. It's funny because it came from my wife and usually my wife's feedback is just you talk a lot, which is reality for me because I talk a lot. I talk a lot. Just how it is. And this is not negative anyway. It's just a matter of... Her biggest thing was allowing space for conversation to form on its own. And I remember that conversation happening and me being like, yeah, but it's a podcast. We gotta fill air. It can't be dead air. And to a lot of ways that's true, right? But also in the same kind of vein, it's not true because I think that one thing that we do is we bring up some heavier topics. And I mean, if people don't know this, it's pretty easy to understand that we basically, whenever anybody comes on the show, we set some pretty serious ground rules. When people come here, it's like, tell me for sure what's off limits, if there's things off limits. And that's not to say that we're prying. It's just reality. I don't want to dig into a wound or something like that. I'm not here to bring things up or scar things or anything like that. The whole reality is we just want you to be real. And there's a lot of things that people hide behind these facades. Let's just be honest. Let's be honest people talking and have a real conversation. So my thing was trying to leave space for that. So if I'm asking a question, I don't necessarily need to go in and then explain why. And sometimes I do that a lot. So that's just my own personal thing. And you've been good about that. And I think I have too, where we've lived by the ground rule we set before somebody comes on. And what's cool about it is they hear us ask that or say that. And what's neat is I know a lot of the listeners, you don't get to hear what we talk about off air, but they will open up off air, which I found almost therapeutic to know there's power in numbers. No matter what it is, it might not necessarily be all that bad looking at it, but I can't take that away from them because that is theirs. To be us to be able to be fresh and go, Hey, calm down. You're good, man. Or gal or whoever's here. And I mean, that was actually one of my favorite episodes. I'm going to take us down this road real quick to some of my favorites since we're kind of recapping season one. If you haven't found out by now, we're recapping season one here and kind of telling you what this podcast has meant to us as individuals and as a team, but kind of highlight some of our season one episodes. And one of my favorites was Noelle's. We went deep on that, man. And I heard from so many people. That was their favorite. That was a great episode. And I remember how I felt listening to the stories that she was telling because I remember the first conversation. I feel like I remember the first conversation I ever really had with Noelle was really like that day. But I had random one off, like, hello is like, you know, coming into the shop, stuff like that, like not totally unfamiliar, but like not super familiar. So like being able to listen to those and like that to me was like the epitome of what we're producing for our listeners, too, because I'm like, wow, I know none of this. This is totally new to me. And that's the goal. But at the same time, being here in the room and like really just like kind of feeling the energy of what that was, that was super cool. That gave like a good vibe of just being able to understand like, OK, we might have something really cool and really special here to be able to just give people whomever it may be. And arguably, it's just as good as like your average Joe conversation as for anybody that people really know. But like, I think the reality is for us, it's like, I just want to be able to provide something for people to be able to get out, you know, feelings, frustrations or sadness or whatever, and just talk real. If it excites you, I want to know about it. I want to do everything. I want to do all of it. So just talk through it and figure out like, how do we do that best, right? And I don't know that we're 100% there. I would say if we were that we're still learning. Well, yeah, I mean, that's the thing. If you're not learning, give up. Just be done. You should always be learning. Always, always, always. We're both baseball guys. It's not about perfection. It's about getting better. Yeah, just come out and beat the person you were yesterday. You know, and the other episode in particular that I really like the road that we were going down was Jeff's. Oh, yeah. Jeff's was great. I mean, and there were Jeff was actually just in the shop today and we were talking what I appreciated about him being on. I had heard 99% of those stories that were here because Jeff and I have that relationship. We're not barber client. We're buddies that get together. You know, like when you come in and we're buddies hanging out. But I didn't know one of the story was about the bullying. Oh, yeah. I had no clue. And we talked about this today. You look at Jeff and you go, how does anybody bully you, dude? Well, that was exactly what I was just thinking. You're the most lovable guy. I wouldn't jack with you. And nothing about him is threatening. Yeah, exactly. At all. And we were talking anyways, like I said about this today. And I kind of, I said those same things to him and he kind of looked at me and I knew he was probably like, yeah, I know you've told me this before, but I feel like I always have to tell him again. Oh, sure. I mean, gosh, we've had couples on talking about how they were done as a couple. And then regroup. I got to give a cool shout out to them. Like, Sean and Mindy, they have such a cool story. So individually, I love them both. And then, you know, together, they're just hilarious. There's so many funny stories that they have that are just like, I mean, she told me this story this weekend. That was just ridiculous. But that's beside the point. It's still as funny as hell. But I think one of the biggest things that's really cool that I want to give them a shout out on is they've really been working hard on their business that we talked about on the show. And they had over 1,500 couples sign up for their course this past week. I just got goosebumps, dude. I know. How cool is it that they have now gotten to a point where they have this reach to really help people? Because that is so, so uncommon now to be able to come back out of the grave, so to speak. Some of it is like, man, usually when people are that far, it's just over. And that sucks. It sucks that that's the reality. And I think that they're the perfect example of they really locked in and fought through the hard stuff. And I'm a guy that is very spiritual and religious. And those things to me, it's a big deal to live through God on that and let him speak for me in those situations because I'm just a doofus most of the time. So if I was in a situation like that, it would be very hard. I really respect their ability to dive through that. And now that they're building this platform to really help other people understand how to do that, whether that be within, if you were to do that through your religion or not, that's your thing. What a testament to those couples to raise their hands and say, yeah, we need to do something, right? And some of it might be worse off than the other. To be able to throw your hands, that's a powerful thing. It takes courage, man, to go, I'm done. Not done, but I'm done doing this the way I'm doing it. How can I do this better? Exactly. I think about it a lot. It's like if you were trying to figure out like, all right, what's the phrase? I was trying to think of it was like doing things the same way and expecting a different outcome. It's kind of the same deal. It's like, if I'm just going to keep on this same cycle, it's like, well, nothing's going to change. And I think everybody has some aspect of that in their life. And then they're like, well, I don't like that I have this like, I don't know, we'll use something super meaningless like, oh, I have this bad habit of chewing on my nails. Okay, we'll just stop. Yeah. It's like, well, yeah, but it's like an addictive thing. Like it is do it or it's like a nervous tick or a fixation that they have to they have to do it. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, okay, those things like, but then you have like this thing, like if somebody's like, oh, you know, I can't stop, you know, cheating with other women or whatever. Like that is a problem. That's a real problem that people have, you know, like figuring out like what doesn't work, especially like in their stuff. Like, I'm not going to pretend I know what it's like to be a therapist. Right. But it's really cool that they're able to do that and have a good reach. So people, Shawn and Mindy. Yeah, you're great. Loved having you two on and the way that they genuinely looked at each other when they were on opposite sides of the island here. It was cool, man. And I know I said it a couple of times in that episode too. Like you remind me of Katie and I, like this is how we are. It's a great thing. You know, we're not perfect. I'm definitely not perfect. Oh, yeah. Katie's closer to perfect than me. Definitely. But just the joking around and she's like, ah, you're not going to talk yourself up good enough. Who says that? Let me handle you and you handle me. I wish like one of these days somebody is going to figure out one of these stories that they tell. And it is so funny, man. They are one of those couples that have really fought through it and made it out. And it's so cool to see. So I'm excited for them, but it's really cool to see. Proud of them too, man. That's really cool. See things that's coming out together for them. It's fun too, because as we have more and more guests on the show, I feel like I have more and more connections with people. Not connections as like, oh, I'm going to benefit from something. It's not a transactional thing. No, it's just like, I feel like I get to have, like from when I was a little kid, I've always thought about like, oh, I want to be on the radio or I want to do stuff like this. And not like in a bad like, oh, I don't like what I do now. Like I love what I do now. The reality is, it's just like, this is a cool outlet to be able to just talk to people, you know, and like be able to have some kind of interaction that isn't, you know, the everyday. Like it's easy to walk by somebody and just like give a head nod and a smile. Well, for most people, it's easy, right? Like some people are just not going to do it. Yeah, I'm that guy. But it's way more difficult to stop in the hallway or at the water fountain or whatever. And you should be like, hey, how are you really? I know. Yeah. You know? Yeah. That's what's cool. That's what's cool because we all have those, even my conversations, you know, at the barbershop, I'm a little more relationship driven in my barbershop. However, I do have new guys that come in and it's a transactional conversation, right? Johnny sent me a text today and he's like, hey, I need to text Nick. Can you get my haircut? There you go. Yeah. Did he text you? Uh-uh. No, he didn't text you. Okay, good. Better. Even better. Yeah. I still, when they come in the next time, it's a little deeper. When they come in the next time, it's a little deeper, right? It is. We just learn stuff. I mean, it's exactly like us. Look at how we started. Yeah. And here we are today. I know. That is wild, man. What did I tell you again? It was May 25th, 2020? Something like that. Was when we met? Something in there, yeah. Because you came into the barbershop for the first time? Yeah. Something in there, which I'd gotten a gift card. And we bonded over baseball and drones. That's like where we went. Yeah, exactly. And then it went to boom and then boom. And my wife says I should write a book. My wife says I should do this. And it's like, okay, let's meet at Scooters. Yeah, figure it all out. And here we are, kids. And here we are. It's so much fun. So let's kind of keep in that same kind of like vein there. I said that twice now. It's something stupid. I want to say something else. I want to say let's keep in that same frame of mind. Boom. Look at us go. Let's go down that same road. Yeah, let's go down that same road. What was your favorite part, maybe funniest joke, funniest question? What was your favorite thing about season one? Favorite thing about season one? Gosh, man. I got to go to probably our second episode when we had our first guest on. That's when I felt like we brought it together. That was my favorite moment. And it was with Mike, my buddy Mike. Yeah. You know, he's on and I'm telling Nick before Mike comes on, like this guy, he's one of the best human beings you'll ever meet. And he's probably the craziest guy you'll ever meet. This guy likes to- And if you follow Mike's Instagram, it's so true. Borderline kill his body for the sake of working out. And he sings while he's doing it. Why not? The dude's a nut. And I love him. I love him. He's such a good guy. Yeah. I was just outside with him before you guys, before you showed up tonight. And I mean, we were just talking life, not even working out or anything. We weren't talking about any of that, but I just look at the guy and I go, I'll bet he ran a marathon this morning and then he went and grappled for four hours. And then he went and lifted. But that's his job. He's good at what he does. He's probably one of the best. I wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the best fitness guys in the country. Well, you look at him, he's- He's a specimen, dude. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So I don't mean to tailspin us out here, but episode two, having a guest and like, okay, this feels real now. Episode one was incredible because it was up there in the office. It was, yeah. We were like, how do we do this? Remember the one by 12 on the nightstand and we had our mics on and we had to put heavy- I think we put the, I think we leaned a guitar against it. So it wouldn't tip. Yeah. Now that was funny. That was funny. I mean, that is like quintessential like just figuring it out. Just figuring it out. Yeah. It was just anything. And then I think it was episode, man, probably between three and four, I brought you down here to the basement. I was like, what do you think this space would work? It's like, dude, this is perfect. Let's do it. Why not? This is great. We'll see. I'm going to go ahead and ask you that question too, because I think that's a good one. Do you have a favorite moment or joke or guest or- I think my favorite moment was probably the Mother's Day episode. Oh gosh, that's a riot. And I think, because I think like part of it is like, I agree with you like that. Having the first guest, it's like, okay, this is really real. We can really do this. We can really figure out the nuance of it. And I can get this going. But then I think just having both of our wives on the show was just one of those cool buying things. Because I'm going to tell you right now, my wife would never get on a podcast before really sitting down and saying, here's what we want to do. And I always give her crap because I'm like, if she says something silly, I was like, oh, you don't believe in me. And she just looks at me with like, shut your mouth. It's funny. And it's just one of those things. For me, that was such a big moment because that is when, that's not when I really felt it, but that was when there was a secondary feeling of- I agree with that, man. This was, they're really in it. Because that's your person and you want your person to believe in something that you believe in and- And I think in a lot of ways, it's just like anything. Let's just take dating, for example, right? If you are going to try and find your person, naturally, you're going to try and find someone that has some similar interests to you, right? Yeah. So if my wife doesn't love this, that's totally cool. My wife's got a lot of things that she does that I don't love. But how cool is it when you both, your wife starting to really love the thing that you love? Yeah. That's cool. And I would say she really is bought into it. Yeah. She asks me every week, like, what's the schedule? Let me know what's going on. I want to know. And a lot of that is because she's an unbelievable exceptional person and an insanely good mom. So she's trying to figure out what are we going to do? Right, right. She needs the plan. Yeah. But also at the same time, it's like, that is plugged into the week. She knows this is plugged into the week and it's going to be part of it. Katie, same thing. She knows Wednesday is going to be a recording night. Yeah. And to piggyback off that, it's funny how Katie, after we're done recording an episode, she'll go, is that the best one ever? Did you say that after everyone? Every episode, I'm like, that's the best one ever. That is the best one. They just get better and better. Yeah. In a lot of ways, it's really just us. We get better and better. And I think that our excitement level stacks too. And I think that as that continues to happen, of course, the podcast will grow. And I think that that's the exciting part is there's so much unknown. It may not ever do anything. And that's totally cool. 100% cool. It'd be really exciting though if it did something cool. If it did, yeah. Again, it's not transactional by any means. I just want to be able to get people's stories out. I think in a lot of ways, that's the thing. That's what I want. Yeah. I want, genuinely want more stories. It's just getting that outlet. Yeah. There's so much that I don't know. I listen to a lot of different podcasts too. And I think a lot of that is because I'm just genuinely curious about things. Yeah. And I think that the reality for me is I'm genuinely curious about people. And if I'm asking you something, I'm genuinely asking you something because I want to know. Yeah. Not because like, oh, well, they told me to come over here and ask this. Here's the deal. I walk into a room and I can make friends with anyone in that room. That's me. Totally. I am all for that. Yeah. And it's the polar opposite for my wife. Yeah. My wife is like, all right, I'm going to go find a table. Yep. We're going to go. We're going to sit here. We're going to relax for the night. And it's like, that is awesome too. Great space. I want to be able to do that. Whereas I'm like, all right, like, are we karaoke-ing? Like, am I going to have to tell a speech? Like, what's going on? Let's do something. Like, let's get in it now. And that, for me, that for me is- We need to go on vacation together, man. We do. We really do. Dude, there are so... I can't even... Okay. Let me break this down. I got to tell a story. There is... When we were on our honeymoon... I love this because I'm going to tell a honeymoon story too. Dude, some of the craziest things happened. Yeah. It's so funny. But one of the funniest things was like... So in our case, we went to an on-clusive resort. Yep. Same with us. So... And I know that that's very similar for a lot of people. Like, that's not spectacular. The funny part- Oh, it is spectacular. It's incredible. I love it. It is. But the thing that nobody prepared you for was it's kind of like going to college. It's like a big campus and like nobody leaves. They're just all there, right? Yeah. So you just see everybody through like... I don't know how long you're there, you know, seven, eight days or whatever. Yeah. Hey, Chris. Hey, Jeff. Exactly. Peter. Peter, how's it going, man? It was literally that. It was that. And my wife's like over here. There's these guys that I'd be chatting with, you know, and I'd seen them the night before or whatever. You know, we happened to sit next to each other at dinner and like they're just at the table next to us. And, you know, the conversation is not usually like, hey, like, what are y'all here for? Yeah, right. Right. Most of the people there- Yep. Not... That's not true. A lot of people there are there for their honeymoon. And you can kind of tell the glow on some. Yeah. That's just kind of- And then you see a lot of anniversaries, milestone anniversaries. Exactly. And that's where my story is. It's hilarious. But go. Dude, but it's that. It's that, right? So like we had this hilarious interaction with a couple that, like my wife and I, typically, like she just doesn't want to go and have conversations with people where I'm the opposite. I'm going like, I'm like, let's go talk to people. So I'm kind of like, you know, persuading her to go talk to more and more people. And of course we end up at a karaoke night. Yes. And I just think it's funny as hell because everybody, like, I don't think we, I don't think we sing any songs that night, but it was really funny because one of the things my wife will do is she will like latch on if somebody's like, oh, this person looks like a doofus doing that. And she will like fire away with it too. Yes. Not negatively. Yeah. But like, it's just- It's a playful, yeah, yeah. The bantery kind of- I love that. You know, and just like enjoying themselves. Like, this is what's funny about this act. And like, of course they can't sing, but that's why it's fun. So like, that's the stuff that she latched onto. So funny. But there's probably like four or five couples that she had like met and just kept going down, down, down. Like all, I mean, we had, it was to the point where it was like, oh yeah, you live here in Texas. We'll let you know. We'll come down and we'll hang out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never talk to them again. Dude, I'm still in contact with people on Facebook. And we don't like interact, but we'll interact with pictures that we post. Oh, sure, sure. It's great. And it's because I'm like, hey, you want to be friends? You want to be my friend? Yeah. Like a toddler. You want to be my friend? Yeah, exactly. Circle yes or no. Exactly, yeah. We're down in Mexico and we get in the pool. It was like the first day we're there. And this older couple from Canada is in the pool. And we get in and they just start chatting us. And they're like, oh, where are you from? And we tell them. And how long you guys been married now? We had that glow, right? Oh, sure. And I go, we just met on the plane. Just 20 minutes ago. And this lady's face was like, are you serious? Yeah, we figured this was the singles camp. Yeah, I asked her what resort she was going to and turned out we're at the same one. And so we canceled one of the rooms and here we are. Yeah, great. She was so blown away. And Katie's like, oh my gosh, would you stop? That's hilarious. And I go, okay, we just got married. She goes, ah, that is so funny. You guys are going to be just fine. That's hilarious. Well, that's also true too because some of the fun stuff is like, the fact that you don't know anybody there. And it's not that it's impossible to run into anybody you know. That can happen and it happens a lot. But it's fun to just kind of be like, we can just kind of, you know. You can reinvent yourself? Free fly and just do whatever. And, you know, I could be, you know, I could be Nick from Saskatchewan. Whatever, I don't know, somewhere random, right? I'm from... My wife says she wants to go to Saskatoon. Where is that? Exactly. Where is Saskatchewan? That is a funny as hell movie. I don't know, but we should go. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I could be Nick from Casino Royale if I wanted to, you know. And like, it's just fun to kind of get that other side of like being social out. Where it's like, it's all good. It's very unlikely we're going to see each other ever again. But it's cool to chat with you. And this has been fun, you know. I, yeah, we need to go on vacation together. I think that'd be funny. That sounds awesome. I am in. We each have a friend book. How many friends are you going to try for today? Yeah. Well, I have already started with four at the breakfast buffet. So you're down. I bonded with Al over pineapple. It just makes me. It makes me think of that movie Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Oh, my gosh. That movie is hilarious, man. Exactly. I love that movie. He's just meeting everybody at the Hawaiian Resort. He's like, it's the only room they have right next door to hers. That's awesome. My favorite line from that movie is he. Who was it that asked what the state fish of Hawaii was? And the bartender just spouts it. Oh, yeah. Hami, Hami, Hami, who walk, walk, walk, walk. Yeah, that's exactly right. Dude, so funny. And he's like, you know, the fact that he's just able to kind of like free fly and just go enjoy himself. And that's a that is how it should be. I love it, man. Heck, yeah. That's what we're going for. Yeah. Right here. Just enjoy yourself. Just chill, enjoy chatting. I will say, though, and I'm not going to say who, but we've got some really exciting guests coming out for season two. We do have some very cool guests coming for season. We have one of them locked in for sure. Who Jeff Frank mentioned. Oh, great. Even better. We've got a killer athlete coming on. Yeah, this will be really, really cool. And we've got a killer former athlete coming on. We are. Yeah, I'm not going to not going to blow it. Yeah. Even though I want to, but it's going to be fun. It's definitely interesting. It's going to be really cool. We've we've got some we've got all walks of life that I'm really looking forward to. I mean, we've got got an insurance agent coming on. We've got wealth managers coming on. We I mean, all the it's all of it. And it couldn't be better. And it's perfect timing, especially, you know, the thing that I look at is I know my and this is an old saying every lot of people say it, not everybody. A lot of people say it. But especially my grandma used to send this home a lot was if you don't like it, be the change. Right. And in this world, the way the world's going, Nick and I here, we don't care who you voted for, what your religion is. We stay off all of that for a reason. We're not that outlet. What we are is, are you a decent human being? Yeah. Do you like life? Yeah, because we want you to love life. But do you at least like life? Right. Like we want to breathe life back into the world in a positive way. That's why if I'm just going to elaborate on you talking about this possibly going somewhere or maybe not. Yeah. That's why I want it to go somewhere. Just to be able to do that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's not transactional. It's not a monetary gain. It's not. It's getting there's there's million hundreds of millions of people in this country. Right. And if I can get even a fraction of a percent to come on and talk about their story and what they've gone through and be the Mike, be the Shawn and Mindy, be Noel. Whomever. Whomever. Over and over and over every week. Dude, that's incredible. Yeah. Because what this life boils down to for me is we all have something. Right. But we all have good something as well. Oh, yeah. We have things that make us tick. We have things that that irk us that their biggest pet peeve and and they're all different for everybody. Right. But it's all the same because those little things make us feel the exact same way. Yes. And it's it's a different road you had to take to get to those feelings. That's what I love hearing that stuff. Right. I love it. And I think that I think that, like I'd said, kind of allowing the space to have the conversation to free flow a little bit more. I think that's exactly what we'll get out of season two. Yeah. You know, like in moving forward, truly, not just season two, but anything past that is like figuring out how how to continue to pull more things to drive better conversation, things like that. Like, what does it look like, really? And like, yeah, we get how do we get that conversation you were just talking about to happen really organically and really? Honestly, just in the capacity of like, there's so much that people have to say. Just let them say it. Yeah. You know, and that's that's a huge bonus. It is. So it is. And it's important. You know, it's a that I can't remember. Oh, Ted Lasso. Oh, yeah. Show Ted Lasso. You know what I love about that show the most? Everything. Everything. But especially me being who I am, what really struck a chord with me was making mental health cool. Yes. He wasn't his. The news of his mental panic attack and his breakdown. Yeah, it came to the forefront and everybody was kind of blowing it up. And he's like, yeah, so what? I had a panic attack and I'm dealing with a lot of things. And it was such a cool way to say we all need help. Everybody's a little bit screwed up. Everybody, man. And there's nothing wrong with that. No, no, it's just reality. My thing is own it. Yeah, exactly. Just own it. Just own it. And that's exactly right. Don't say, well, this is what I'm going to do to fix it or have a plan to make it easier. Exactly. And I think so some of the things that I really I mean, we're talking a little bit about Ted Lasso in general, like that's probably that's not really the path I want to go down. But I think that in reality for me, that was exactly the point of that show because I was at a time where I was having my first interactions with panic attacks. And I know we talked about that before. I feel like I guess I know why. I was a new dad and learning how that works. And I'm thinking about nothing other than I don't want to lose time with my wife and my babies. And if something were to happen to me, I'm thinking about all the wrong things. Now that I can control that a lot better, it's a whole lot easier. But the reality is, that was a helpful thing. So I think being able to potentially, we're never going to be a Ted Lasso level media production. If we did, fantastic. Not planning for that. Don't necessarily care one way or another. But if we can be that next thing that somebody hears and they're like, I needed that today. This is where I was going with that. Yeah, I just want to be able to give them space to feel and then give them a way to understand what their feeling is okay. There's so much around today's times where it's like, you got to validate your feelings and this and that. It's like, dude, just feel whatever you're feeling. If you want to talk about it, awesome. If you don't want to talk about it, awesome. I'm not going to come to you and try and do the whole validation thing. You're feeling what you're feeling because it's real. And I can't invalidate you or validate you. If you need my validation, there's a different conversation we need to have. And not in a negative way. It's just reality. It's like, you need to be able to feel your own value. And it's the same concept in marriage and relationships too. I can't be, what is it, Melissa McCarthy in the heat where she's like, hold on, hold on, I got a good one for this. I can't be part of two and tell them a better one. In a lot of ways, it's true though, right? It's a huge joke, but the reality is that I think that if you are able to give yourself the space to feel the things that you're feeling, that's probably helpful. Again, I'm not a therapist. I don't ever plan to be and I don't claim to be. I just want you to be able to hear what we're saying and realize that there are other people like you. And it's okay. Exactly. That's where I'm at with it. 100%, man. I couldn't say it any better. I don't think we can say it anymore without beating the dead horse. Right. I mean, sorry, Peter. Not literally. Not literally. I'm not beating a horse today. No glue trucks here. No. That's funny because whenever Winston makes me mad, I always tell him I'm going to send him to the glue factory. Oh my gosh. The kid gets so mad at me. Why do you talk to him? I go, babe, he can't understand that. He doesn't get it. And if he can, he knows me by now. It's just a giggle. I'm going to say that to him and then I'm going to go hug him. Who takes him to work every day? Who loves him every day? I'm going to go hug him. That dog knows he's loved. Oh yeah. I mean. You don't have a bad life, that's for sure. That dog has a great life, man. That dog has never had a finger laid on him, has been barely yelled at. And then when I say yell, I'm pretty sure I've yelled at my boys louder. And I don't even yell at my boys. I take that back. I did recently. That's because now they're getting to the age where their voices are deeper as yours. Yeah, especially Hensley, man. That kid is, dude, he's like six, two. We have, how long has it been? Three weeks since we recorded? Yeah, two, three weeks, something like that. I swear that kid has grown another two inches. He does. I just, I was cooking dinner with the boys tonight. The boys, oh my gosh, dude, it was awesome. The boys were involved in the kitchen with me tonight. And it was so cool. But before we got started, I looked at Hensley and he goes, what? Dude, I think you grew again. You're tall now. Whatever, dad. I'm like, no, dude, for real. Like, come here. And he like pulls away from me and I go, don't you pull away from me? Yeah. And I gave him a hug. I go, dude, you've gotten taller. Yeah. Like overnight. Yeah. I swear, dude, he's- It's a real thing though. My God, man. I remember that happening to me, getting taller overnight. That kid, yeah, it's wild. And I'm going to give a shout out to both my boys real quick, if you don't mind. I don't mind. My boy, Hensley, he is now graduating into the 14U baseball program. Nice. Which is no longer daddy coach. Yep. It is all pay coaches from here on out. And he is holding his own in tryouts, man. He's doing a spectacular job. He's holding himself to high esteem, high regard. He's humble. So he'll say, oh, you know, I felt like I did this or this. And I'm the one there like, hey, bud, bigger picture. You might have made a mistake, but look at the way you handled yourself. Yeah. You know, you were straight face. You were in it. You're like, all right, next. Yep. Let's go. That's what baseball is. And that's what they're looking for. It's all about, yeah. And he's trying out for some good programs. And he's actually at one right now. He's at a tryout right now. And I know he's killing it because he's Hensley. You know, he's just doing his thing. Madden, his whole team, number one, I'm proud of his whole team. But he's my boy. So I'm going to flex on my boy. Of course. They are this week on Saturday. We're headed to Mississippi. Nice. For an elite world series. Love it. His little team has, they're pretty highly nationally ranked. And, you know, yeah, they're only 10. And these kids, if they stick with it, stay healthy, keep working, and they grow, anybody can do anything as long as they practice, right? Sure. There is something special about this team. Yeah. These kids, and it's so cool how this team was formed. This team was formed by basically the island of lost misfit toys, right? These kids, and they weren't really cut from any teams or forgotten about, but they were just kind of a, hey, we're going to start this tournament team. You guys are going to play for this team in league, but then this team for tournaments. And they're like, you know, it's kind of come and go. It's not going to be anything too formal. And we're like, okay, you know, we'll go to the first tournament. We'll see how it all goes. They win the very first tournament. These kids have never played together. A couple of them played on the one team together, and then it was a hodgepodge of teams. Plenty of room for them. Yeah. And we're like, holy cow, that was incredible, you know, beginner's luck. Actually good. We go to the second tournament the very next weekend, and it's, again, the coaches are saying, hey, we've got kids. If you can't make it. And we're like, well, he had a lot of fun. Besides the winning part, he just had fun. Right. And this was our introduction to how tournaments are run now. I've played in tournaments. They run a lot different now. Oh, yeah. And go to the second tournament, and they win. Again. And we're like, okay, beginner's luck still after two. You know, surely they're going to fall. Yeah. Go to the next tournament, win, next tournament, win, next tournament. Dude, I'm not even joking. It was 12 tournaments. Yeah. 12 victories. That's awesome. These kids in tournament play went 36 and 0. And it was just like, okay, maybe it's not beginner's luck. Yeah. So now this team, after that one season, the coaches all talked and they're like, look, this has got to be our team. Yeah. They gel together. Their chemistry is incredible. Right. They can all play. They can all pitch. They can all bat. Yeah. And they're all little brothers. Even better. So, well, most of them. There's a couple. I take that back. A couple that are not. They are the oldest. But we ended up making a league team out of them. And then a tournament team. And this team is just stacked. They're awesome. Dude, it's so much fun. And to watch Madden thrive in an environment that is highly competitive. And absolutely. We've had some attitude issues along the way, but Hensley had them too. You know, it's just coming up as a kid. You know, he hasn't developed that abstract thought. And like, it's bigger than just this. So everything is on the line when he's on the field. Right. Something wrong with his medulla oblongata. Exactly, man. Dude, it's like a ground ball's hit to him in the outfield. And it hit his glove and it drops in front of him. I'm like, you kept in front of you. Yeah. Did it roll to the fence? No, but I should have stopped it. I'm like, dude, he only got a single. Yeah. It's all good. Rolls to the fence. He's on third base. Chill out. Stop beating yourself up. So we're going to that. Yeah. And that's tough as a dad like me who sits back and just finds the joy in, number one, feeling so blessed to have the means to be able to travel the way that we do. Right. To be able to play as much baseball as we do. Blessed, dude. And it didn't just happen. My wife and I have worked our butts off and we've been very smart. But to have that many kids who are that blessed to have the parents who do this team is freaking incredible. It's awesome. All of these parents. And I'm going to flex on the parents. Sure, sure. Dude, you couldn't have put together a better team. That's awesome. Not just with the kids, but the parents. We also keep each other in check. I mean, there are times I want to spout off and not at anybody other than the opposing people. Oh, yeah. The kids, all the kids have been fine. Most of the coaches have been fine. Sure. You get a couple. Sure, sure. But the parents. And I can't help but look and go, there is a huge difference between you and me. And I know we talked about this before we came on air. Oh, yeah. What is wrong with parents and youth sports? And I'm not speaking for all of them. Right. Stop living through your kid. Just let your kid go play. Live for your kid so your kid can play. Well, we talked about this, right? That is something that I am pretty firm on. My kids aren't old enough to be in competitive sports yet. It's reality. I would like for my children to try sports because I think it's going to make them better people. Not because I'm like, you're going to go pro. That's not reality. I just want them to experience adversity and go their way and figure out that you're not going to get something because you think you want it. It's because you got to go earn it. Things like that, all the parts of sports that I got out of it. And I hope that my kids get that out of it. Honestly, if my kids try something, they're like, I don't like that. I'm not going to just make them go do that. That's not how it is. But I am going to teach them commitment. Okay, you committed this for the season. You're going to finish this season. And then if you don't want to do it again, we won't do it again. But understanding what commitment means. Understanding what it means to be part of something other than just a solo thing. And that's not to say they can't go play golf and things like that because those all have teams too. Or like, I remember it might have been Jeff that was talking about wrestling. Because I think he was talking about wrestling and weightlifting. And weightlifting. Super powerful team sports. Individual effort, but with a team. Team, yep. Funny with baseball. And I know you and I have talked. And Hensley understands this now because he's old enough. I've told him before. The umpire is like, in life, later on in life, the umpire can be a lot like the guy or gal that you're working with that gets a promotion. But you're more suited for the promotion. That umpire sometimes will blow a call. And it doesn't go your way. You got to learn how to deal with that. Because sometimes somebody's going to get promoted that doesn't deserve it. You did. What are you going to do? Are you going to roll over and die from it? Or are you going to make them, through your actions, regret their decision? I don't know, man. There's a lot unpacked there. This will all be unpacked. This is my vision on where we're going. Not with baseball, with season two. But unpacking some of that. Chill out. Just enjoy it. Enjoy the ride, man. With anything. I know we talk sports a lot, but that's what we know. I was in the men's league all-star weekend. Fun time. Homer and Derby participated in that. You probably won, didn't you? No, I actually got third. Did you? I will say, this is not to make an excuse. This is just reality. I was pretty grumpy about breaking my bat the weekend before. And I didn't have my new bat. I haven't gotten a new bat. So I have this backup bat I'm using. It's just like a $50 bat that I had just in case I broke my bat. Well, that happened. Now I have this $50 bat I'm using. If you've never played baseball with wood bats, there's a reason. There's a difference. Difference in price. So in fairness, I am hitting with a bat that's not really made to do that. It's just to get you through the game. Which is exactly what it's for. So I do think I could have performed a little bit better just with a harder bat. I believe in that. Yeah, I believe that. I'm used to swinging like rock maple and things like that, very firm, hard bats. And that maybe played a little bit of a factor. I potentially could have won, but it's my own fault. Everybody was still swinging the same pitches. So it is what it is. It's awesome. And it was a fun time. There's a lot of guys out there. It was a lot of fun for everybody. Everybody just enjoyed it and we just had a good weekend. And the reality is, it's basically just a big shit talk fest each other. It's just fun. Just because we get to go out and enjoy it and do things that we don't normally get to do. Who gets to go out and just do an actual home run derby for money? It was for money. That's awesome. The winner got like 350 bucks. No kidding. Yeah, this was awesome. Sorry, I keep looking down at my phone. I've got a kid out fishing and another one at tryouts. Both big deals. Yeah. But that was fun. So I think the reality is, a lot of things that came up over the weekend was like somebody said something about, man, this is really fun, whatever. I don't remember how it got brought up, but I just remember being like, man, I'm just glad that I can still play ball and enjoy it and just come out here. It's hot. Yeah, it's hot. But we're playing ball. I could be stuck. But you're embracing it together and you could be stuck doing something else. I could be doing something super boring. I could be stuck doing chores that I hate or I could be stuck in a hospital, for all I know, being sick or whatever. Well, it's what my dad always used to say. A bad day on the course is better than a good day in the office. Yeah, exactly. It's true. So we had a good time and that's what the stuff's all about. So I hope people can get to that point. That's what I want. I want more of it. I want to be that change, right? Going back to my grandma. You don't like something, be the change. And that's what I want to bring, whether it goes somewhere or not. I hope it does. Didn't you say your grandma was a great golfer? My grandma was awesome, man. And she called a bunch of people scallywags or something? Fuddy Duddy. Fuddy Duddy. She called him a Fuddy Duddy. That's what it was. She called him Fuddy Duddy. That woman had a lead foot. That woman could play golf. That woman could snowmobile. Did I ever tell you her nickname for her snowmobile club? No, maybe. Maybe. Spin? I don't know. I don't remember that. Because she used to do donuts all the time on her snowmobile? That's hilarious. Like this 80-year-old woman just doing donuts? Why not? She's the only way to go. My dad will have to correct me. Dad, correct me if I'm wrong. But I think I remember a story of my grandma being on... So in Michigan, they have snowmobile roads. And it's just trails. In the summertime, we call them two tracks. Because you can take your trucks and your SUVs or whatever off road. Sure, sure, sure. So it was called two tracking. But in the wintertime, it was snowmobiles. And this is where I need my dad to correct me if I'm wrong. I remember a story. She was going down one of the state trails. And they're all groomed. And there's a speed limit on these trails. It's usually like around 50, 55 miles an hour. OK. Pretty sure she got pulled over doing like 90. So hold on. Back up a second here. Yeah. Do you mean to tell me that there's like snowmobile cops? Yeah. This is amazing. In Michigan, yeah. I have no idea. And they're outfitted with radar. They're... Oh yeah. They're legit, man. So they're like, what does this look like? They pull over and it's like they get off. And it's like crunch, crunch, crunch. Excuse me, spin. Do you have any idea how fast you're going back there? And my grandma lifts up her face mask on her helmet and he laughs. It's just this little lady. This little old lady. Slow it down. That's it. She got out of the ticket. It reminds me of the end of Zootopia when the sloth is going like 100 down the street. Yep. Dude, I'm telling you, that was my grandma. That's hilarious. That woman, dude, she was incredible. There was actually, not too long ago, my parents will like this too. I was listening to just a country artist list on Spotify. Just like a station that was made for me. And it was funny because the night before, I'd kind of been thinking about my grandma. Just in thought or whatever. Something that I thought would have made her laugh or maybe something that would have made me laugh. I don't know. I can't remember exactly. That very next morning on my way to work, Sam Barber, there's a song he came out with about being in heaven and heaven's better because you're there. Oh my gosh, dude. Yeah. I lost it. I lost it. And I started sharing it with everybody. I'm like, oh my gosh, I just heard this. It reminds me of grandma and everybody listened to it. They're like, oh, great. Thanks for making me cry at 9 in the morning. You're welcome. That woman, dude, she could cook. She could burn a house down. She could drink. She never drank heavily. But I remember when I was going through my stuff, well, I'd been better. I had gotten the help I needed and I was coming out of it. Gosh, I'd gone up to her place and we were hanging out. Oh, I take that back. We lived out here. We just moved out here. And I went back up there for a weekend and I just spent it with my grandma. And I had been sober for a while at this point. And she started pressing me, asking me questions about it. And I'm like, this is awesome. My grandma's like that in tune with, now she knew I never held it from her, but I never thought she would bring it up and want to talk. And she just started giggling. She goes, you know, I think if you had to go back to when I was a kid, they would have considered me an alcoholic at the age of 10. Oh, wow. Yeah, there you go. Grandma, what? She goes, well, you see, your great-grandpa always had a bottle of whiskey. So my grandma, my great-grandma and my great-grandpa didn't have electricity, didn't have running water. They weren't Amish. People ask me this, like, were they Amish? Thank goodness we figured that one out. Well, so when my grandma was a kid, you know, they didn't have anything. They farmed and they lived off the land. She's a depression kid. And he had a bottle of whiskey and it was tied and it would go to the bottom of their well where they would get their water out of the pail. Oh, yeah. Because that water was always cold. Sure. So he always had cold whiskey. Nice. Well, my grandma caught on when she was like five that there was whiskey at the bottom of that well. So she always volunteered to get water. Yeah. And so they're like, wow, Carolyn, you're so helpful. You're right. I am. Grandma comes back with a whiskey on her breath. You know, nobody said anything because they probably didn't smell it then. But she went out with my great-grandpa and she always loved telling this story. I went out with him and we were fetching the water together and he looked at this whiskey bottle and he goes, who the hell's been drinking my whiskey? That's hilarious. Well, I do. She was so up front. Yeah, yeah. Just I do because that's what you do. Oh, man. And he didn't even drink to excess. But when he went to get water, he'd take a little nip of whiskey and it was good for the day. Yeah. And my grandma, she was like, yeah, I always, you know, she was also told by my great-grandma that they weren't going to allow her to go to school until she stopped cussing. Oh, yeah. You know, that's a real thing. She was a farm girl, man. That's hilarious, man. That's awesome. I just can't get over the fact that there was like actual officers on snowmobiles. Isn't that wild? What do they call them? You know, I don't know. Just cops. It feels like it's got to be something cool. Slept cop? Yeah. I don't know. That's a good question, man. I've got a couple buddies of mine from high school who are big riders. So I'll ask them. It's kind of like how Canada has the Mounties, you know? A real thing, you know? Yeah, man. It's a real thing. A real thing there, right? Yeah. You never know, man. Radar on those horses? I hope. That'd be cool. Yeah. What's the horsepower on this bad boy? One. We got him going. 55. I'm trying to keep up, man. Dude, can you imagine? Can you imagine what that'd be like in a hot pursuit on a snowmobile or a horse? So much fun, man. Even on a horse, that'd be cool. Yeah. Well, both of them would be cool, right? Like, how do you get back? How does one do something cooler than that? It feels like very 007-ish. Yeah. Yeah, they're pretty... I'll tell you what, man. The next time I'm in northern Michigan in the winter, I will make sure that I get video and picture of a police officer on a snowmobile so we can put it up on our socials. Heck yeah. I need to know. It's really cool, man. I need to know what this is like. I need to know. Or if anybody out there is listening. The world needs to know. Hey. Let us know. Yeah, send us. I want to know what this is like. I mean, I can Google it, but I would just rather you send it to me. It's really neat, man. And they have all these... When you go out there two-tracking... Well, not even two-tracking. When you're in the winter time, because they're all shut down in summertime, but there's little motels that are out in the middle of the forest, off these trails. Yeah, just so you can go and... Just go and you can sleep. And most of them are on your honor. So you can pull a key and you throw 20 bucks in and you have some running water and they have generators. Yeah, but they're neat, man. And they've got all these restaurants and bars. So these people that run... So it's like a real thing. Yeah, these people that run these restaurants and bars, they live there in the winter. So they're the barkeep. So they wake up in the morning and they look outside and they're like, oh, here comes the snowmobilers. Yeah, come on. Come on in, get breakfast, drink a whiskey. Yeah, head on out. Hit the trail again. They're everywhere up there, though. And a lot of people, it's pretty neat when the Straits of Mackinac freeze over. The Straits is where the Mackinac Bridge is at. They'll just ride their snowmobile across the ice, go to the Upper Peninsula and... Can you get like other things? Like, can you get like a DUI driving a snowmobile? Oh, heck yeah, you can. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because that's a thing on Watercraft, too. Yeah, I knew that on boats. The same thing. So they fall under that same classification of PowerSport DUI, something like that. It feels like reasonable. Yeah, you can, especially... Now, if you're on private property... Sure. Probably not. If you're on your land and you're tanked. But how often is that, you know? But if you're on a state trail, you're on a state road. Interesting. It's... They're patrolled. Interesting. Yep, it's a lot like Colorado. Colorado has the same thing. Yeah, yeah. Their groomed trails for snowmobiles are... They're state road. Interesting, I didn't know this. Yeah. Interesting. You got to pull a permit every year. It's an ORV sticker, off-road vehicle sticker that you have to pull, and they'll pull you over. They'll check for it. It's like registration, basically. Yeah, yeah. It's like registering your car, but it's like, oh wow, wow! The thing that was foreign to me moving out here, though, like even golf carts, you have to register. Yeah. Michigan? Like, you got a four-wheeler? Oh, okay, cool, man. Just trail it around and ride it. But not in the neighborhood, right? How's it work here? Yeah. It's the same? You got to register. Oh, I thought it was just like... It's personal property tax, yeah. Oh, interesting. I didn't know that. It's not expensive, but... No, but still. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so tail back on you then. Yeah. What are you most excited about for Season 2? Oh, god, dude, that's loaded. There's so much I'm looking forward to for Season 2 because I think we've already talked on some of it, like kind of the trajectory on where we want to take it and just getting better, right? Yep. So I get really excited learning about new things from new people. So can I say that that's the one thing I'm really looking forward to? No, because I'm always looking forward to that. Agreed. Maybe I'd take it a step further and say I'm excited to get back on that horse of learning new things about new people. Some of the guests that we already have slated I'm really excited for because I think they're going to bring a lot to the table. I think for me it would be really showing with our excitement and our words just how much this means to us without us saying it means a lot to us. Yeah. People can hear it. They can read between the lines and really gather that we're passionate about what we're doing. I think that's what I'm most excited for is for people to see that we truly, we are here. We had season one, it was successful and are they going to tail or are they going to keep climbing? Right. I want to show people we're here to keep climbing and bring in the good stories and the real stories and the humor and the sad, all of it, man. Yeah, all of it. No, I love that. I agree with that. I think that's very, very similar to what I would say too. I just, I feel like that next story is like, I'm just excited for that next story. Yeah. Like that next thing. Yeah. Like just, I mean, it's like you said, being a learner, I just want to know what I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. It is hard to pinpoint a thing. I guess if I had to pick a thing though for being most excited about season two is I'm really most excited about scaling with our guests. Getting an opportunity to get them to really drive more will be really cool because I think we have some ideas that will kind of focus up on that and make that really the forefront of the show more. Right. So just kind of keeping that going. Yeah, I agree with that. I love where we're going and I think everybody listening is going to love where we're going. It's so funny how I always think, I do think about this if I'm in too deep a thought, I think, are we just going round and round? Yeah, sure. And I know we're not because it's not the same thing every week that we're dropping. Right. And I always come back to know we're not going round and round. Every week has been so different with a guest that it goes back to the learning. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We've heard it. You know me. I'm sitting over here and I'm just like a kid in a candy store with happy stories coming out and we go to Mr. Build-It and I'm listening to a story and he even called me out on it. He's like, look at him. He's so excited. He can't even talk. I'm like, dude, are you kidding me? How can I? What am I supposed to say to you right now that's cooler than what you're saying? Right. It's a thing, dude. That stuff. Dude, I live for it. It's cool, man. It's really cool. It's hard to kind of put it into words, right? It really is. Sometimes it is. This is one of those things. Truly what it will spin off into a question that I do have for you is and I do want to ask you this because I do want it in words and I know this is going to be a loaded question too. What has meant the most to you with this podcast? Maybe geared towards the guests and not anyone in particular. And if you need me to elaborate on that, I can. What's one thing that you've been able to take from this and bring it into your life? Yeah. Okay. So that's an interesting question. So I think for me, something that's been really big is being able to articulate things to people. I'm taking away from our guests the ability to go into a room and talk freely. Not to be rude or judgmental. But I mean, of course people do that. But to just be able to go in and say this is what I'm thinking and what I'm feeling. And I'm getting better at that. It's also making me a little bit better at picking up on things like that. And also it's making me... Because I think we all have a level of judgmental aspects, right? Like there's some things that we're all just kind of judgmental on. But if you see somebody, you have no idea about them. Your example about Jeff earlier was really great because it's like looking at Jeff. That's the 10th person on the planet to squat 1,200 pounds. Right. Whoa. Yeah. Who's going to say something to Jeff? Right. You got a cojones on you. Yeah. Saying something to Jeff. Yep. But things like that. It's like really being... Like just being more accepting for sure has been something that's a big takeaway for me. And not that I wasn't before. No, I know what you're saying though. You're a little more careful now. Maybe. I'm more aware. Yeah, aware. That's the better word. Yeah. Because it's not... Like I don't have a lot of judgmental tendencies. Yeah, no. I agree with that. But like everybody's sometimes judgmental. Oh, yeah. It's just reality. And I don't mean it negatively. And even though like judgmental things are typically negative. We're human in every sin, dude. I mean, yeah. And it's just reality. But like I'm getting better at understanding like I just know nothing about you. And I would love to know more about you. And if you... Like I can't just look at you and get the story. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just kind of realizing that for people. And just letting people, like I said, just letting people freely be themselves is really cool. And it's an underrated thing, I think. What about you with that? Yeah. Gosh, I'd almost have to just say ditto, but I won't. It's okay if you do. I understand. No, but I think, too, for me, is this whole experience has made me a little softer in my approach to my own house. Sure, sure, sure, sure. And the reason why is, yeah, I know my boys. I know my wife. I know everything about them. But I might not know that one thing that's really bothering them, right? Sure. And this has made me a little softer, too. In my head, I might say, man, the boys are grumpy right now. Where I before would have been like, uh-uh, snap out of this, man. Yeah. And not a jerk about it, but a little more abrasive. Yeah. No, I get what you're saying. Now, going through this, this has been a semi-spiritual thing for me. And I know that's loaded, too. But that's the way I work, and that's the way my emotions work, is I always try to tie it into this spiritual thing, like what's guiding you. Yeah. Right? And this helps guide me to be that now, I know when something's bothering my boys, I just go up, what's eating at you, man? Yeah. Just cool, calm. It's part of it. I don't know. Okay. When you know, let me know. Yeah. Before, I would have pride and pride and pride and pride. And this has set up those boundaries because we ask those questions, what's off-limits, maybe that's off-limits for him. Why am I giving a guest that I don't know like you the floor to say, I don't want to talk about that, but not my own child? That's a great point. That's a great point. And I think a lot of ways, too, like the reality to... I think that it's hard because I feel this a lot in my own life. There are things, it's so funny because my wife would be like, why are you grumpy? And I was like, I'm not grumpy, but you're going to make me grumpy if you keep asking why I'm grumpy. And I don't mean that to be shitty. It's just one of those things. It's like, okay, maybe I could be grumpy. Sure, that'd be a thing, whatever. But there's just things that would push it a little further. And then now I'm just kind of irritable, like to the point where I would just be irritated soon. And I think in a lot of ways, when we ask people things like, hey, are you okay? And they're like, yeah. And then we ask, are you really okay? And they're like, yeah. Okay. Or I'm fine, I hate that. Oh, yeah, I agree. Everybody in my family knows, do not tell me you're fine. Yeah, yeah, it's just not... That's more often than not, it's not true. But the reality is if you're asking the question because you care, you're not asking the question because you want to be irritating. But there are times where inherently you are irritating if you're asking that question because they're already annoyed by something. Yeah. So it's just like, hey, it's cool if you don't talk, that's fine. But it feels like something's weird, just let me know. Yep, bingo. That's okay. I think that we as a society and just generally in human nature is to... You want to ask questions because you want to know, but you also want to like... Sometimes it's prying. Sometimes it's like, I want to help. Sometimes it's, you know, I don't really care. I just know that I need to check the box. Sometimes something's wrong with you. Yeah, something, exactly. You just want that reciprocated to you, like what's wrong with you? Yes. Right, there's a pride issue. You're asking the question because you hope somebody asks you that question. Absolutely. And that's tough, right? So I think that if we realize that sometimes it's okay, it's cool to just sit in silence. I can't, I cannot, I can't physically sit in silence. Yeah, I can't either. I just can't. But at the same time, like, my wife knows if I'm quiet, so I'm drunk. That is me. Yes, 100%. Because I just won't talk because it just pissed me off. I shut right down and I start cleaning. That's when she really knows. Uh-oh. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. Yeah, that's an interesting one. I clean, dude. Yeah. I don't know that I have like a thing that I do. I don't know that I have a thing that I do. Maybe I'll think about it retrospectively, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. The cleaning thing is funny. I don't know. I think it's instant gratification thing where I feel like I'm in X mood and Y is my solution. Sure. So I clean that one thing. Oh, cool. I can feel good about something. Sure. And I don't know, I'm not a psychologist, but I can only assume that's kind of where my brain is at in that moment. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know why I do. You know, God is my witness, man. It just happens that way. When I'm done, I am cleaning. That happens, man. That happens. I mean, look, there's lines in my carpet. Yeah, because you like your lines. I like my lines, man. That's hilarious though, man. The cleaning thing is funny. That's funny. That's a random thing. Totally is. Instant gratification is a good point though. And I mean, what wife's going to complain? No. You grumpy or cleaning? Sweet. Go clean. I'm going to piss you off more often. I know. It's a thing, dude. That's a thing. Well, heck, dude. We've got a good kind of plan. I love it, man. I think it's safe to say we're both excited for people to hear what we got coming up. I think it's safe to say that. I think you're right. And I think they have every right to be excited. It's going to be fun. I think too though, I think that there's an opportunity for us in Season 2 to be more engaging with people that are listening. Figuring out how to get people to interact with us on Instagram and stuff like that. That'd be great. I would love that. The whole point of this is to be able to reach places that others potentially don't. Let us know what that is. I know. I would love. I want to hear from them. That'd be a dream come true. Somebody just spouts off to us and says, hey, I need this person to hear you. How can I? Or what you said resonated with me. Or hey, Nick. And Nick, you guys were talking about this? This is what worked for me. Teach me. I want this to be a two-way street. Yeah. How do we make it the best thing it can be? Reality-wise. And it can be anything. We are not the guys that get upset at all when you tell us, hey, dude, that last episode was horrible. OK, why? Tell me. And I'm going to avoid that. Because even just one person doesn't appreciate something we want to know. Or if you do, tell us that you appreciated what X, Y, and Z. I mean, that's what I'm excited for. We're finding we're in the boat. The boat's planing now. We're coming up onto cruising speed. And this is where we want to go. And I think everybody's going to love it. I know I love it. Oh, yeah, I agree. I agree. I think we're on that path. The thing that I really appreciate, I would listen to this podcast if it wasn't me. And I think that's what makes me happy about it. We've got something with legs. And this is right up my alley. And it's right up my alley because it's real. I'm not a fake guy. I can't be abrasive. Or people could consider me abrasive, even though I'm not. I'm a softie at heart. But I go with my first thought, usually. And that's gotten me into quite a bit of trouble. But at least it's real. It's real. That's the thing. It's just about being real. And we allow people to be as real as possible. Dude, I really hogged the mic tonight. It's great. I love it. Wow. I'm all for it. Speak it up. Talk it out. What am I doing with my hands? That's what this is, man. It's a talk show. I love it. It's a talk show, man. I know. I love it, man. No, dude. I agree with you, though. I would definitely be in the same boat. It'd be cool if it wasn't me. I would still listen to the same thing. But that's the product that we want to put out. I want to put out something that people want to listen to, not just because it's me talking. It sounds cool, in this case. So that's awesome, dude. Well, heck, I'm excited for season two. I'm excited, man. Heck, yeah. Well, you got anything else you want to chat about before we go? Short episode, kids. I think I'm good. Hey, we're on it. Yeah, I'm good. I'm excited for what's to come. And heck, yeah. Excited to see you again. Heck, yeah. I'm excited for the next guest. Be on the lookout. There's going to be some cool ones. Oh, yeah. Be ready. It's going to be fun, people. Because it's coming together now. And we've got some really cool people that are going to come on the show. So be excited. Let us know if there's anybody else that you want to see come on the show or any funny questions you want to see in the lightning round because that's always fun. And until next time, you can find us at our Instagram, at the underscore unspoken underscore pod. Boom. Until next time, we out. We're out. Later.