Hard Work & High Octane: Project Management, Youth Sports, and Car Culture | Unspoken with Dan

Your hosts, Marine Nick and Land Nick sit down with Dan, a professional Project Manager, to discuss the transition from blue-collar construction roots to the corporate world. Dan shares his perspective on the "taxi phase" of parenting, navigating the high-stakes environment of competitive youth sports like club volleyball, and the vital role of being a provider and protector for his family. The dialogue shifts gears into classic car culture, where Dan reflects on his lifelong passion for Chevelles and Camaros and nostalgic memories of browsing Wheeler Dealer magazines in barbershops. After candidly discussing his personal regret over an incomplete college degree, Dan participates in a high-energy "bananas" lightning round that covers everything from pet peeves to zombie apocalypse survival strategies and the cultural debate over pineapple on pizza

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Welcome to Unspoken, where everyone is the... Welcome back to another episode of Unspoken with Nick and Nick. We're back. We back. And Nick, I'd really like to know what shirt you have on tonight. My Land Nick shirt. Oh, what? Tim made these for me. Tim? Yeah. I have my Marine Nick shirt on. Marine Nick and Land Nick. Tim, you're the man. Tim, you are the man. This is, it's like I said upstairs, it's going to have to probably be our first line of merch. It's the Land Nick and Marine Nick shirt. I think that'd be smart. Yeah, you know, that might be the move. I think that might be the move. I think we might know a guy. We might know a guy. We might know a guy. I think Tim's the guy. Tim or Hensley, what's up? You can come step over here if you want. What's up? What are you doing? Are you being awkward? Okay, well, I'm turning your mic back down. See you later. But yeah, we've decided that if the boys are going to talk, they're going to talk to a microphone from now on. So we have an extra microphone up for them. Yeah, exactly. You're kind of off camera, but whatever. It's all good. I mean, he's got a Snoop Dogg shirt on him. I'm hoping he's going to freestyle for us. Yeah. Yeah, Snoop Dogg. Snoop-a-loop. They don't break stuff over there. What are you doing? He's just rolling over a backpack like a dingus. Anyway, we have Dan. Yeah. What's up, Dan? He's a cool guy. Hey, what's up, guys? Dan, shout out before on the show. We've tried to make this happen a couple of times, but you know, scheduling of middle-aged males with families. Life happens. Yeah, we talk about that all the time, because I think the reality is that that's kind of the whole point. It's like, this is meant to be laid back. It's meant to be just a kind of reality. So I'm all for that. But yeah, we've been talking about it for a little while. I know you've been trying to get on the show, so it's good to have you and actually get to chat with you. Put a face to the name, like you said. We were just talking about that, how awkward it always is to hear somebody talk for so long, and then you see them, and you're like, that's you. Whoa. Yeah. That's the person that, yeah, now you look like that. We were talking about how you do that on meetings, too, because we're always the guys. You said you're project manager. Right. So as project managers, our cameras are always on in virtual meetings. Yeah. So we're like the only guys that have their cameras on. Talking to thumbnails. Yeah. Well, and it's even worse if it's like the thumbnails, too, that don't have an image. It just has their initials. Right. You're like, I don't have any idea who I'm talking to. It's kind of sad. Especially if you're like, I'm not, thankfully. But if you're in the project manager that also doubles as basically like a sales rep, those are hard, because you're like, who is on the other side? Right. Yeah. Are they paying attention? Are they engaged? Yeah. They may be on their phone not even paying attention. Yeah. And that happens a lot. I'd hate that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Totally agree there. So Dan, how the heck are you, man? I'm doing good. It's been kind of a week. But yeah, what hasn't been a week. Yeah. At this age. You're busy, man. Yeah. Things go crazy. But yeah, we're getting through it. How you guys doing? Yeah, I'm doing good. I'm doing ASMR right there. Yeah. Always. I actually uttered those words before I left the house. I was just like, get ready. You never get it. Yes. You need a warm-up. Yeah. Yellow leather, red leather. Yeah. Well, Lord knows I'm good. Yeah. Always. I don't usually have bad days. No. Yeah, I don't get too bad too often. But I am a big proponent that if all days are good days, then no days are good days. Yeah. So the reality is just some things are better than others. But yeah, man, it's hard to take a lot and be super upset about it right now, especially with some of the random states of the world that pop up. But we're not going to go down that path. We know. It is crazy. Gosh, man. Yeah. Yeah. But either way, man, what do you do? What's the life of Dan like? The life of Dan? I don't know. It's a lot of work. I'm a hard worker. I always try to be the hardest worker in the room. But family man, always we're doing the kid thing, sports thing these days. Shout out to my kids, Jolene and Dean, my lovely wife Jess. Nice. Heck yeah. Yeah, they support me through all my endeavors. And likewise, I did the same for them. But yeah, I mean, yeah, just kind of typical stuff at this age. We spend a lot of our times taxiing right now. My daughter's getting ready to drive. So we're going to be getting a car here before too soon. But you know, yeah, it's been a lot of time, you know, in different gymnasiums, watching sports, you know, all the good stuff, though. Yeah, that's fun, man. It's a good phase to be into that. This this phase of life, because I know you're coming up. Yeah. You'll be there before you know it. You'll be there. It's a fun time. Yeah, I'm excited for that. We talk about that a lot because we're not there yet. My daughter is is three. So she's kind of getting into like enjoying things now, but she's not, you know, competitive at anything yet. She's not doing anything that's like really she's not making decisions about what she wants to do yet kind of thing. But she loves gymnastics. She loves ballet. So that's what we're in right now. So it's fun to watch her do that. And I mean, I'm definitely the dad. And I know I know Nick is Dan, you're probably the same way. I'm definitely the guy that's like, I don't know a damn thing about ballet or gymnastics, but I 100 percent you're in going to be the guy that's like second position finger. Yeah, and then it's going to be like we're going to be. I mean, you know, I can make like a montage of us, like just in the darkness with like one light on in the gym. And we're like, oh, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, it's it is funny to think about because I don't know what it's going to be like to watch my kids do stuff yet. And I know that I'm always talking about how it's not going to be. I try to tell myself that it's not going to be a thing where I can get like competitive with them. Like I'm trying to just let them enjoy. Yeah. Yeah, I really hope I can stick to that as I get into my kids sport. It's funny, though. But there is a healthy amount in a dad or a mom, but mostly it's dads because dads are a lot different than the mom. You know, the mom is all about support and hey, it's OK. And I'm like that too. But I mean, and Hensley will even agree with this. I mean, the other night in the cages at home field, he's like, I'm sore. I don't care. Welcome to the game. Keep going. Your opponent does not care. Your pitcher does not. Easy. Now that we're recording, let's get this on record. I can step up to the mic and tell us how you how did you feel? How did it make you feel when your dad was like, hey, let's let's talk about use the exact words he says to you? That was how it was, huh? But OK, I was pretty mad in my mind. Yeah, I didn't know what he was doing. And the whole time your dad was just like, hey, get back in the cage and you were like, you. That's what it was like. Is that what it was like in your head? You to me in your head. Were you raging? I was cussing you out. Oh, yeah, you started hitting that ball hard after that, too. But this is like this is I mean, this is like a rite of passage. You realize that, right? What? OK, this is like this is like your buy in to the next level. Yeah, it is. You'll thank that for this one day. But the cool thing about it was when we were done, he came up and put his arm around me and said, hey, I'm sorry I was being grumpy. And I go, yeah, me too, man. Yeah, me too. Also, sorry you were being grumpy. Yeah, but but we hugged it out and we were good. It was just in that moment that I needed. So back on that competitive thing, it's good to be competitive and push them. There's totally a healthy balance, right? I mean, you have to have a little bit of it, too. And I think I think some of it for me, like my perspective and I don't know, like tell me what it's like being you at your age now, because 100 percent it is not the same as when I was a kid or when you guys were kids playing whatever sport you played. It was not the same as it is now because the level of competitive. I guess this right now, the attitude of competition is different. Well, on my teams, it was not. I mean, if the coaches were saying the things to you guys, like right now in time that they were saying to us. Oh, they'd be done. Coaches would be in prison. Yeah, I had a coach one time. He was like, yeah, I was like, yes, coach. Thank you, coach. May I have another? I mean, but it's real. Like when you get to certain phases, it's it's there. They can be jerks, man. They can be. But again, there's a healthy balance, right? Right. Let's just take that. For example, you're in the cages. How do you respond? I hit the ball. But you didn't say anything. You just went and hit the ball. Yeah. See, that's the right move. Don't don't overthink it. Right. Don't overthink it. Just go and do it. He did. He didn't let back. He didn't stop. He didn't leave the cage. And I told him, I said, go ahead and leave the cage. Get a drink. He goes, nope. He stayed right in it. You know, I wonder, I would rather dehydrate. I wonder if some kids like they can't decouple the fact. Like if you've never had someone like up in your face or like giving you harsh discipline or like, you know, constructive criticism, they take it personally. Like they did something wrong, you know, versus like the first time you have that aggressive coach with harsh discipline. It's not until years down the road. You're like, oh, man, they get it. Right. They had my best interest. I'm curious, too, because, you know, I'm in the same boat as you. I have a little girl. I have no idea what it's like to, you know, I mean, my sister played sports, but I'm not like around regularly women's sports now. So I have to figure out what that's going to be like as time goes on. Like, what was it like when your daughter's growing up through, you know, kind of figuring out what she wants to play or if she's doing it now, what she's playing now and how that has changed from maybe the way that you help coach your son. If he plays sports, too, like, what is the differences that you you see? Well, so this is ironic. She's actually going through it right now. So she's playing her first her first league in her first season in club volleyball. OK, yeah, up until now for the past four years, she's been playing just kind of wreck ball. She played for the high school and she wants to continue down that path. And I asked her, I was like, you know, what is your goal through throughout the high school sports? And she had said, you know, I want to I want to continue playing for the high school team and then playing in the offseason. I was like, well, you know, to your point, being competitive these days to do that, you also have to play club basketball. It's kind of an unspoken rule, right? Just to keep those skills sharp. And so, you know, that's been something we kind of had to coach her through because she's between the like going from wreck basketball to even high school, then to club. You realize how unstructured wreck volleyball can be. There is no rules. So with all this structure, she's not used to having and the expectations are at a higher level. I think it's she's starting to realize that this is where we're developing those fundamentals. Right. Yeah. So did your son play sports? Yes, he plays basketball. OK, so so similar similar situation. What's the age difference? OK, so my daughter's 15 and my son's 11. OK, so we're relatively close in the same situation with my daughter, my son. So how has that changed just like where your son's at now versus like, is there a different edge that you feel from her than him? Or is it like she's more competitive now since she's older? Or is it just one of those things that like they just think about the game differently? She's definitely more competitive now and she's starting to understand where where that criticism is coming from. I think my my son just takes it as it's sports. Yeah, he gets you're going to get yelled at. You're going to have to run. Someone screws up. We're all running. And he is the most chill kid. You could scream at this kid and he'd probably just look at you. It doesn't it doesn't faze him. He's just like, OK, yeah, we're all going to suffer together. And that's him. He's like that. Your chill. Yeah, he loves it. He's told me before when I coached him, he's like, can you can you go off the handle? Can you he loves you want to see that? And he lives for it. Well, yeah, that coach. He would make us arrive before like each game two hours early. Yep. Yeah, and he was hard on us. That was a team. He he made a team that was based out of. Well, no, that wasn't that was Arkansas. That was Arkansas team. OK, yeah. Then they went to Branson and he's he was a fanatic coach, but he took it well. I feel like that's kind of that's kind of like that first step to really like locking in and deciding that you want to do this. Yeah. You know, like that's that's the thing is like because I mean, some coaches, they can get their point across without ever having to lift a finger. They're just good at communicating what the needs are of the team. Some coaches, the only way they feel they can get their point across by screaming in your face and kind of degrading you truthfully. Yeah. And some coaches are just like they don't talk at all. You just know what you're supposed to do because the way that you practice with those coaches that that's kind of my current three levels of experiences with coaches. So then I was kind of the same as you. Like I always responded well to kind of the hard ass in the room. Like I didn't bother me, but that's not the same with every kid. You know, that's not at all like that. Yeah, you I can't is he I can't approach him the way I approach it. It's a little softer. Sure, it's not soft, but for me, it's soft. It's for your Marines. So I also shut it off a little bit. I'm like, all right, buddy, do you understand what I was saying to Hensley and a lot of times what I'll do and it's never to compare them. Right. But I'll say watch Hensley and see if you can learn from that because he's doing what I'm trying to get you. There's also the older brother aspect to like some of it is just like look at what you can learn. Right. You know, like just reality. Yep. Yeah, it's good to have that parental guidance to you. Like if you have a kid that you feel maybe like you don't want that to ruin the sport. Yeah, genuine interest or talent at it. Right. Yeah, it's good to be able to like bridge that gap for him. Be like, hey, this is not personal. This coach is pushing you to get the best out of you. Yeah. And you'll see that on the other end. But like sometimes when you're tired and they've been running and it's it's hot out, it's like all I see is someone yelling at me and I don't want to hear it. Right. Yeah, that that's very true. Sometimes I mean, that's just a human element, right? Like sometimes it just is. You just have that. And we talked about it earlier today when you were in. I think I brought up to you. I think it was I'm pretty sure it was my dad that said it. The only thing you have to worry about in sports is when the coach stops being hard on you. Oh, yeah, they've given up on you. They're done. They've given up. They don't see any more in you. You've hit your ceiling. Yeah. Or they just are like, I can't do anything with. Or I can't do anything with them. It's just where we're at. Yeah. And most of most of that is attitude based. I've seen a lot of people that are not exceptionally talented do really big things because they have a great attitude. Yeah, that's just part of it. I mean, the reality is, is you're more willing to work with somebody. It's kind of like just like us going to work in general. I'm more willing to work with somebody that I can teach to do stuff and make them great than somebody that's just a bag of ass. Yeah, yeah. No, you're absolutely right. Everyone knows that person. Yeah, they stand out. I mean, that's just reality. Like people are just different. I can point them out in that picture right there. This picture of 60 people. I can pick him out. I mean, but it's true. I mean, it's true. It's just kind of reality at a certain point. So makes sense. Awesome, man. OK, so then what else? Like what else is like the day to day? What's it look like for you to do life? You know, it's I'm kind of like the the rad dad page on Instagram, right? Where it's just like, you know, I like being outside, man. I'm an outside person. Even when it's cold out, I like to be outside. I hate feeling cooped up in the house. Agreed. My son used to be that way. He's going to get into that, you know, that 11, 12, 13 year old where, you know, he'll get outside if it's nice, I'm sure. Daughter, she's 15 and I kind of let her do her thing, which is cool. But yeah, I've always been an outside kind of guy. As far as hobbies, like I'm into old cars. Yeah, me and my dad, I grew up in a hot rod. So old muscle cars. So he's got a sweet garage, dude. Yeah, it's got a bunch of neon signs and stuff in it, like Americana kind of stuff. It ain't nothing. You should see my dad's garage. It's it's ridiculous. Dude, I love your garage. Are you kidding me? My dad's garage is ridiculous. But yeah, it's like I've got old Chevelle. My dad's got old Chevelle. Like I said, I'm before I could even see over the dashboard. I remember being in a muscle car. So and it's kind of cool. Like, you know, since I have a car too, like I've got pictures of both my kids as newborns. Yeah, me holding them in the front seat of that car. So it's kind of, it's a part of the family now. So that's awesome. It's funny you say that because I actually, I have a 2015 Honda Accord. So, you know, we're kind of the same. Stock exhaust. Yeah, cold air intake. Kind of the same deal. Yeah, I totally get it. I mean, I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Yeah, it's all about the family, right? Dude, it's so funny because I talked to people a lot about like about this type of stuff because like my father-in-law is a great example of this. He tells me all the time. He's like, I don't know what I'm doing on these these screens, right? Like this isn't my world. And I'm like, OK, just because I grew up with this stuff in my hands and, you know, I lived in the world of cybersecurity. I know that. But like, I couldn't tell you a damn thing about how you do, you know, physical therapy on people and like hurt. Like I couldn't tell you anything. Yeah, it's like, you know, I mean, maybe maybe there's people that are just like as they talk about the same thing over and over. Sure, like my glaze over a little bit. Right. Experience can't replace experience. No, right, right. Yeah, I mean, it's the same deal. So like that's awesome to have that. And it's also cool to have that from like being passed down. Yeah. So, you know, in your point, you know, having the kids in the in the car with you, it's like, OK, this is something that we can pass to the kids and they can kind of. Yep. And it's probably a good outlet. Oh, man. Yeah. My dad's car is a real good outlet. That car is fun to abuse. He does it well. Which one? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's got he's got an old car and a newer car. And both of both of them are vastly different experiences. But they're they're both mad. Yeah, they're fun. Yeah, it's one of those things. My whole family is in the cars. I've got uncles with Corvettes. My dad's got a Chevelle and a Camaro. Like we've got we're just in the cars. We've always been. It's been kind of so it's kind of what we all kind of like hang out and we do together and talk about. Yeah. It's like your family centerpiece. Sure. Yeah. You know, like, you know, a lot of families, you know, like the guys are always into sports, which we're into sports too. But like we are way more into cars. Yeah, I can talk cars all day. That's awesome, man. I love that stuff. That is awesome. Yeah. OK, so then what's your OK. What's what's your favorite car and what's your dream car? Is that a vastly different question? Am I being dumb? Is that a different question? That's a it's a different question. Sometimes I think it could be both. OK, yeah, it could be the same. I guess it could be the same. Sure, I've got enough history in the car I have now. I would really like to just see how far I could take the car now and improve on it. But yeah, I'd have to say like a newer a new ZL1 Camaro or like a 1970 split bumper Camaro. I'm a Camaro guy and Chevelle guy. Yeah, I'm into Corvettes too. But, you know, yeah, my dad had a vet for a while. We gave him a we razzed him pretty hard about it because he's always been like a Chevelle Camaro guy. And it's just like, oh, you got your vet with your new balances, right? You know, so awesome. So yeah, like we used to give him a hard time about that. But I have I have a buddy whose dad has some some sweet cars. I couldn't tell you what hardly any of them are now because it's been a little bit step into their garage. But they've got they've got a bunch of cars. And when the new vet came out. What is it? See the CA. Uh huh. Yes. When that came out, he was like one of the first people in Kansas City to have it. And I was like, this thing's awesome. So me and my buddy are out driving it around. And he was like, this is awesome. I was like, see, this is why he's best friends with us. Because we appreciate an awesome car. It's just so funny because it's like it's just like a whole different world of having just like these epic cars rolling around. And you never know. Like if you met the guy, you never know it. He's just an awesome dude. And, you know, his his boys are like two of my best friends in the world. And this is the best kind of people when they can when they can afford it. And you never guess like they're the ego isn't there and they're just that's that's what I love. Genuine, genuine enthusiast, right? And that's that's the thing is like it's just you kind of you kind of show up and there's just something cool. And you're like, this is really rad. Like you don't you don't really see that that often. But like you would never have any idea. Like you said, they're just humble people. And and they've always been that way, which is cool. And it's kind of just neat to show up and be like, oh, yeah, you got this new whatever. I'm like, that's pretty sweet. You know, yeah, cool, cool deal. But it's a lot of fun. Yeah, cars are fun. I just don't understand them. I know where my limits are. That's for sure. Like there's been times I've I've I've gone too far and I have to call a buddy, phone a friend, right? Yeah, it's like, yeah, there's there's been times where they're like, oh, man, you messed this up. We're going to have to charge you extra to fix it. So yeah, I mean, what's cool about like the car. So the Chevelle I got I got when I was 15 years old. OK, and the people we bought it from were close friends of ours. And it was also their son's first car. See, dude, so that's cool. That was what was cool. And so even when we got the car, like till this day, I still get pictures from their memories that they send to me. That's awesome. But man, I've got some I've got some embarrassing and crazy stories in that car. Like the fact that that car still runs and survive me as a teenager is is a testament to how well those cars were built. It is such a different level. So I mean, it's such a different level of cars now versus, you know, 70s and 80s and I don't even know before that 60s as well. But man, there's some epic cars that you see rolling around. You're like, that's sweet. Uh huh. So I totally get it, man. I've always liked the kudos. Yeah, kudos are sweet, man. Oh, yeah, I might. My dad will probably be like, no. I was like the color schemes more. Yeah, it was the bright colors. They were there. I mean, they were set. Orange was epic on the thing to do. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So then I'm just picturing. I'm just picturing like a young Dan like sitting in the barbershop just like, whoa, auto trader. Let's dance. Just like Joe Dirt. Well, man, it's too bad. I shaved the stash for it. Okay, because I was going to be like, it grows in on white trashy like this. I mean, not to shave. Exactly. Yeah, it just grows in. It all became entwined and fused. Yeah, I got that. I had to trim the mullet this week. So I'm bored. That's awesome. It's sad to say I do remember growing up with like auto traders all over the garage. Yeah, that was like the marketplace of yesteryear. That's awesome. Yeah, exactly. In Michigan, we had Wheeler dealers. Yeah. I remember the Wheeler dealer. That's all we have. I mean, my dad, we would go to, there was a restaurant we'd go to quite often on the weekends called Flapjack. And it was just a pancake house. Yeah. And they had the free Wheeler dealer. He always grabbed one. On the way out. On the way out. Every time we leave, you had a Wheeler dealer. And I'd be a little guy in the back looking through it. Oh, yeah. And then we get home and he'd take it. I feel like that's a dad thing, right? Like that's an inherent dad thing. It's like you grab something and your whole intent is like at that moment, you're like, all right. This is my time. I am going to go through this and I'm going to find something and I'm going to learn a little bit and I'm going to get a little bit better. And then now I'm going to be a car guy in like a year from now. And then next thing you know, there's just 30 Wheeler dealers just sitting there. Just stacked. Never looked at any of them. Exactly. But then, you know, like your mom goes to throw them away and he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't go through that one yet. See, I'm a car guy now, right? She's like, you're not a car guy. You've never read him. He's like, look at all these Wheeler dealers I have. How can I not be a car guy with this? There was one night we were at a local car cruise and one of my dad's buddies, he is like Die Hard Hot Rod magazine. He's been a subscriber forever. And he asked me while we were there, he's like, hey, are you in the Hot Rod magazine? I'm like, yeah, sure. He's like, yeah, come over to my car and he pops the trunk and I'm not joking. To the brim of the trunk was full of magazines. Wow. He goes, yeah, sure. Just take some. I'm like, I thought like one or two. Anywhere from like the late 60s to the late 80s. Yeah, you're kind of starting to wonder. You're like, what don't I know about this? What's under all these? Right. I was like, how long have those been in there? That's a fire hazard now, man. You got mice in there? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, dude, that's wild. You don't really think about that anymore. It's so funny, too, just like to think about new age media versus old age media, right? How much it changed in such a short period of time. I mean, the world was petrified of the internet. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The world would not exist without the internet. If they knew then what they know now, right? You'd really be freaked out. Yeah. Well, I just think about that is how time is a hilarious construct because if you think about it, it's kind of the same concept as that dude that paid like 10,000 Bitcoin for the two large pizzas. Yeah. And he's like, man, if he had 10,000 Bitcoin right now, holy crap. Yeah. He would own pizza. Yeah. Big pizza just really got to do. Right. Yeah. It's crazy to think about. That's wild. So your love of cars, I am sure. I know we have to keep it a little bit low key, but it plays into what you do for work now. Sure. Two. Yeah. So I mean, you do something pretty cool. You can tell us whatever you can tell us about it, but it's pretty neat. And I think if you can tell us about it. Sure. Yeah. What I do kind of relates to off-roading and automotive products and things of that nature. But yeah, it's kind of interesting how it all happened. Like I started out at a company and I've always been a car guy. Yeah. So it was kind of a natural progression and then just kind of happened to fall into something that I like to do. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure how much I can expand. No, that's OK. No, no, that's great. So that's perfect. So I think I'm more interested about how you got there. What was the progression like from a young Dan leading the auto trader and screaming about that to now, right? So I guess when I was in college, I actually worked with my dad at the company he worked for. We did construction. Oh, cool. Yeah. And so it was funny. What I really enjoyed about that is I'd learned all my work ethic those years. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. Those guys, you don't complain. There's no waste on materials. So everything that I am now, that was the foundation that I learned. Yeah. And so I do remember there was one day I loved all the banter and the camaraderie of Blue Collar, right? Yeah. So I really enjoyed that. And I do still miss that to this day. But I do remember there was one day, it was one of those bad days, hot summer day. And I remember just kind of staring out like we had just got done unloading the truck and I'm looking out in the parking lot. I'm like, yeah, I don't think I can do it. Like, yeah, it was at that aha moment where it's like, I got to find something else. Yeah. And so I kind of, hey, there's one. There he is. What's up, bud? But yeah, I remember thinking to myself, I wanted to do something else. I didn't really have any, it was kind of at that age where like I didn't really have any clear direction. At that point, I'm like, OK, got to have an income. Started entry level and then where I started at, they're like, well, which segment would you like to be a part of? And I'm like, yeah, well, anything automotive, I'm in, man. And then, like I said, just my goal, always trying to be the hardest worker in the room. Sure, of course. Yeah, man. And half the time, it's just me competing with myself. So it's just like, you know what I mean? Where I'm just like, OK, I did this yesterday. I'm going to do this today. So I try to do better. I agree with that totally. And it's always interesting, too, because I think that that's, I think it's almost more common than we maybe realize because we've talked about this a lot, Nick. We're kind of getting to that point where people are afraid to communicate with people. It's like if you disagree, it's like a death sentence, right? But it's like, OK, it doesn't have to be like that. So trying to keep that in the room is always a huge bonus. But I think also that it's just like a testament to like-minded people and being around a bunch of like-minded people is super helpful, which is, you know, that's how I landed where I'm at. I think that's very similar in your role, like a bunch of people that are hardworking and doing the things you're doing. Obviously, you're doing something super cool. But at the same time, you're doing something that, of course, is niche in its category. But at the same time, you have a group of people that are really good at it with you. And they are passionate about that. Maybe they are passionate about cars as well. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. My folks always told me you are the company you keep. And it took me a long time to realize what that meant, right? And so it felt like the harder I worked and the people I was brushing elbows with, like the better everybody was getting. And really, just all of it improved from there. Yeah, I agree with that. But along with that, there's people along the way where I'm just like, probably wasn't the best decision to be piling around at these times or those times. But that's just part of life. And you learn. Friends come and go, you know what I mean? 100%, yeah. So what would you say is the big life lesson you learned? Or maybe there's multiple. I don't know. Maybe there's 30 of them. But what would you say is the big life lesson you learned between that aha moment of you're always going to be the hard worker. That's not going to be the in question part. But at some point, it maybe isn't working directly with your hands. It's more working with your brain or working with people differently or things like that, which obviously is very different from working in the construction field. I mean, coming home physically exhausted is very different than being mentally exhausted. 100% agree, yeah. To be honest, there's pros and cons to both. When I come home physically exhausted, I could still muster up the energy. Of course, I was also younger then. But less responsibility. And I was younger. But yeah, the part I struggle with is when you have a mentally demanding job, you come home at the end of the day. And sometimes it's like just even to cook dinner, you've had input all day and stimulation all day. And you start to value just quiet time. And fortunately, our whole family values quiet time. So why not come home? It is not chaos in our house. Everyone is nice and quiet. And we live in a quiet neighborhood. So it's nice to decompress that way. But every once in a while, I like to crank up some music and get some noise going on the weekends, things like that. But yeah, I will say, I remember it was a weird transfer for me from going from a blue collar job to a corporate job because I remember we harped so much on no waste and working with the bare minimum in a blue collar job going to a corporate job. And then when I would hear what people would complain about, and I'd be like, I cannot believe you're complaining about this. Self-admitted, now I'm that guy complaining about silly, frivolous, petty stuff where I'm just like, OK, all right, let's back her down a notch. Yeah, yeah. But it's relative, right? Yeah, for sure. The thing is complaining is never going to go away. Right. That's always going to happen. But at a certain point, it's like, this affected me. So this is what I'm complaining about today. That's totally military to civilian life. Same thing. Same thing. You've experienced it, I know. The complaining that you hear. And I'm like, I wasn't considered the old guy in college classes, right? Because I've been out of the core, and I'm back in. And we have to write 13 pages, and we have a deadline of four weeks. Good God, I could write 13 pages before I go to bed. Yeah. Why are we complaining about this? Doesn't he know we have other classes? Yeah, he does. You want to fly off the handle sometimes. Right. Yeah. And sometimes I did. I had to learn those hard lessons, too, that you can't do this now. Your threshold for extreme circumstances, though, is exceptional. I don't know. He just pushed papers, man. I did. I just pushed papers, man. I didn't do anything. Sergeant Major, you need to go to the rifle range tomorrow. Really? There's a phone book out there? Whoa. But without the circumstances, what I like to focus on is that we all see eye to eye, no matter what. It's like that trauma thing, right? Some people's trauma might, on paper, be worse. But the point is, is it's traumatic. Right. And that's you. You went from that hardworking blue collar, no waste to desk corporate going, you're complaining about what? Like, I'm with you, man. I see that. I had to dance that HR line at the beginning, where I was just like, I was used to going to like, you told people exactly how you felt right there. Right. And sometimes physically. But I never had to do that at either job. But yeah, it's just one of those things. It's, I mean, yeah. It was culture shock for sure. Oh, absolutely, man. Total 180, and it was hard to get used to. It is. Yeah, and I mean, in a lot of ways, that's similar to like you said with the military or air and sports as well. Like, it's just so vastly different. And I mean, the line of acceptable to not acceptable is vastly different. So especially coming like, I can't imagine being on a construction site and then just flop. Oh, no, I know. No, that's got to be a whole different beast by itself. That would be wild. But I think it makes, and not to put down people who haven't been in the trenches, right? Like you've been in the trenches, you've been in the trenches, I have. I think it makes us more well-rounded too. We've had to learn a little more. We've had to learn restraint too. And I think it makes you, for me anyway, more employable and enjoyable to be around. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. Because I know neither one of you is afraid to tell me how you feel about anything I've done or said, and we just move on. I don't know your way it is. You're a pretty scary guy now. We move on. You know what I mean? I mean, like every four weeks, you have a straight edge against my neck. And he's got the new Mrs. Lavis meat pie. All right, Sweeney Todd. I did have a guy in yesterday who asked about that. He's like, no, that's a new poster. Since the last time I was in, I go, yeah. I go, you know, Sweeney Todd. That's like a barber thing, right? I go, you know where those meat pies are coming from? You could say that. I told him the storyline, like the premise of the movie. He's like, God, that's twisted, man. Why do you have that up in here? Or the story of the barber pole, right? Yeah, yeah. The bloodletting, right? Yeah. That's true. I mean, George Washington's barber killed him. Bloodletting. Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. Blood into death. It's crazy. All he had was a cold, man. I didn't see that service on Vegaro. Yeah. I should add that. Just as a joke, I should add that. Just throw it in there just in case. Every Halloween, it should pop up. That would be kind of cool, yeah, for Halloween. I might do that. Yeah. It's just zero dollars. Nobody can purchase it. OK, you've heard it here. Casey Barbico. Yeah. Bloodletting. Yes. Gosh. That is wild. OK, that's wild. Yeah. Now I need to go back and re-watch the movie, though, because I thought about that today and I was like, hmm. It's a really good movie, though. It is a good movie. Great story, great. Is that the one with Johnny Depp? Johnny Depp, yeah. OK. Yeah. I think I've watched it once. The barber from Seville, right? Seville. Is it Seville? I think so. And he was on Fleek Street? Fleek Street. The Demon Barber or Fleek Street. Yep. Yeah. That's a wild movie. You know, it kind of bridges that whole film noir style. It's very dark and you can't see anything. So really you don't have to do too much acting. You just got to show up. That's my kind of movie. Just show up and be creepy and they throw the camera on you, right? Yeah. Well, in new age movies, I was talking to my wife about this the other day. I was like, can anybody turn damn light on in this place? I can't see anything. Yeah. I was like, I get it. I get what you're trying to go for here. But am I just not supposed to see anything? Right. This is coming from a guy that loves movies. I'm sure that's really hard to tell. That's me. Sometimes when the family's asleep, I'll turn on a movie on the phone. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I turn the brightness up. I'm like, oh, dude, that's just the cinematography. I can't see anything. Yeah. No, it's just nothing. Yeah, you turn it up. It's like, it got darker in here. Yeah. I'm like kind of the opposite. I'll watch Netflix and it's like, it's down to the bottom setting. I'm like, I need it dimmer so I can fall asleep. Oh, yeah. There you go. Netflix, you're blinding me before bed. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been on this kick of ambient noises. So if I'm at work or even just laying in bed at night, because I've been trying to read a lot more. I know we all say that, but I've been trying to read more. So I turn on a fireplace ambient noise just while I'm reading. Is it like Little Blue Truck? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I got to start somewhere, you know? I can't just jump into the heavy stuff, all right? This isn't long division. Llama Llama Red Pajama. Dude, I read like six of those books a night to the kids. So who was it that wrapped that? Was that Ludacris? Maybe so. There is a YouTube video out there and I think it was Luda. Maybe. Yeah, he wrapped through that book. Dude, it was awesome. So I started doing it. Yeah. Well, hashtag Tim again. He made an AI song of it. No. Good man. Good man. Okay. Good man. He just pumped in the book's words. Dude, that's awesome. Yeah. Okay. It was rad. I like it. You have to ask him next time. I will. Yeah, he'll show you. Is he coming anymore? He might be coming anymore. Yeah, he is. Even better. I'll see him tomorrow. There you go. Cool. Tim, tell Nick about the Llama Llama Red Pajama. So now we know a little bit about you. We know a little bit about what you do. We know a little bit about who you were before and what you've become now. Now, I mean, it's just kind of one of those things. There's all these big lessons you learn over the time of getting to where you are today. Who is it that you would say you are today? My biggest concern is really just trying to be a good role model for the kids. Yeah. And be that positive figure for them. You totally agree. Provider protector. I preach to my kids all the time. That's my job, provider protector. So obviously, loving and caring husband as well. Kids come first. Other than that, I mean, I don't know. I'm just trying to work as hard as I can. You know, I have no grievances of how I was raised. My parents, never once growing up did I ever feel like I went without. Oh, yeah, sure, sure. And we came from a hardworking family. We weren't poor by any means. But still, I mean, things were different. But no, my parents always made sure that we had everything we needed. I never knew any better. I had a solid childhood. Me and my older sister, we were tight with our cousins doing all the fun stuff. It was cool growing up. We'd always go over to my grandparents' house. They had a pool. And now we're kind of seeing that at a different perspective. My parents have a pool. So we see my sister and my kids, we all get together over the summer and kind of relive that kind of stuff. But I'm a big family guy. You know what I mean? We spend so much time together. There's times where the wife and I are like, it'd be kind of nice for us to have a little getaway. But then we're always like, we're kind of in that sweet spot with the kids. We know this time is very limited. And so we want to share as much, maximize all that family time. Yeah, totally. It's smart, man. It pays dividends. For sure. Because once the kids are out of the house, my wife's going to be telling me to get out of the house. So I'm just kidding. But it is interesting to think about because I'm super far away from that right now. And I wish I could stay this far away from it forever. But I do wonder what that's going to be like one day. Because I'm going to have more time than I do then. I'm going to have more time then than I do now. It's a lot of fun. It's sad to see phases go. Sure. But it's exciting to see the new phases come. Katie and I were just talking about that the other night because I don't know where she started crying on the couch. It hit her that we have four years left with Hensley before he's in the college age. And I'm like, yeah, but we still have him for four years. And it's really exciting to see each phase. It's exciting. Of course, I'm going to be sad. But I can't live there. I can't be sad. So I was like, don't be sad. Just be happy. I was trying to say all the good husband things to say because I hate seeing my wife cry. It bothers me. And I get into protection mode. And I'm like, all right, who needs to you know what? But she was so sad, man. And it broke my heart. And I'm like, but we still have four. And we have another. And he's hot on his heels, I know. But still, we have time. Oh, yeah. I'm excited to see where the next step is. Yeah, totally. Got to make the most of it. But I do miss those previous steps. I mean, I'm a picture guy. I look at pictures all the time from baby to now and the chubby little cheeks to now. And his voice is dropping. And I mean, he's becoming a man. And now I'm like, shit, did I do it right? Crazy. Did I set a good example? Shooting that wit back at you. And when he shoots it back at me, I'm like, oh, I did it right. That was my doing. Yeah, I get that. I totally get that. So the family thing, dude, pays dividends. I like that. We preach that, too. I know you do. Oh, yeah, all the time. And I wish there was a lot more of that going on. And so one thing I really miss is that Japanese culture from living in Japan for two years. That Japanese culture, they're all about family. All family, yeah. All family. 100%. And it is incredible to see four generations, five generations under one roof. And your job, it's really crazy in their culture, too. I befriended a couple guys. One of them's in Okinawa, and one of them lives in Kyoto. And they had four generations under one roof. And when you have children, your parents raise the kids. The grandparents raise the kids. OK, interesting. But as you're taking care of the family, though. So financially, putting food on the table, clothing, vacations. Sure. So you get to concentrate on the career to set up the next generation. Interesting. But it's really neat because they're still your kids and you still love them. And they adore their own kids, but they don't have to worry about raising. Interesting. And it's really neat to see that cultural change where I think we're doing a good job not doing that, but incorporating the grandparents and being able to say, man, I really like to go on that trip with you. But it's important that we don't live forever. And I already hate the day that I have to say my last goodbyes to my parents. But as long as I look back and I know, like, we could have done something on our own, but we went to Michigan. Time better spent. Yeah, I never regret it. I would love to just pack up and go tour Europe for two weeks. I'm also going to fish and boat with my old man. Make some memories. I won't say it on air what he's doing on the boat. Catching fish, man. Listening to Snoop. Listening to Snoop. I'll leave it there. And maybe a little Willie in there, too. You know, I get that. That's funny, man. OK, so let's back it up one more step then. If you weren't doing what you're doing today, what would you be doing? I know that's a lot of doings. What's funny is when I was initially in school, I was taking all arts classes. I wanted to do fine arts. As a kid, I was drawing really wild cartoons. I was raised on like Ren and Stimpy and those Dementi cartoons like that, which is funny because by the time I was in junior high, it's on adult swim now. I'm like, hey, hold on. What did we watch, right? I always liked really kind of crazy cartoons and then that kind of evolved into I liked street art and graffiti. So I took all the art history classes and I took all those classes. That was my initial goal and maybe getting into graphic design, something like that. So it just didn't pan out. So yeah, I've got a lot of art history books that are just collecting dust in the basement. Which is funny because we'll watch movies. I'm like, yep, that's so-and-so. Yep, that's so-and-so. That's cool, man. I remember. And the kids are like, how do you know all this? I was like, I went to school, but I don't use any of it now. Yay, college. It is kind of funny how that works, isn't it? Like I use, I mean, I use my master's degree so much more than my undergraduate. It's like crazy. It's unbelievable. Which is funny because all the people I work with, everyone's got their degree, but no one has their degree. Isn't that funny? It's irrelevant to what we do. Isn't that funny how that works? I did have one person that, the best I've heard it summed up that really made sense to me was that it doesn't measure what you learn. It measures how good you are at learning. And that shows work ethic and dedication. You started and you finished. Exactly, like you put your mind to something and you finished it. So yeah, I definitely, that definitely struck a chord. It kind of takes the details and specifics out of it. It's just like, yeah, it just shows you're a hard worker. I feel like it only matters in the case that you studied something absolutely bananas. You studied underwater basket weaving for blind people. Hey, that was my major. Was it? Oh, man. Don't be dogging on that, man. Maybe I'm just plain wrong. Maybe that's what it comes down to. Wow, I thought it sounded like a cool major. Yeah, at the time, it was awesome. That's cool. So do you find, is art a good stress reliever for you? Do you sketch? It is, man. I need to get back into it. I've got tons of art. It's funny because when the kids will have an art project or something, Dean especially, it got to the point. What's funny is even when it came down to prize bags on brown paper bags for the kids' school functions, you know, write their name cool on it. And so it got to that point. Well, it got to the point. What's funny is Dean really started getting into graffiti. And then this was about the same time he was learning cursive at school. And we get an email from the teacher and she's like, well, he started off really strong, but now all of a sudden, I feel like his handwriting is just kind of going all over. And I'm like, I can address this. I know exactly where this is coming from. I'm like, son, these are two separate things. Don't be writing graffiti on your English paper. Oh my gosh, man. It's great. Why are you taking 50 sheets of paper and 100 words? Dude, that's awesome. But yeah, I mean, he's way into it. It's fun. Anytime he has any kind of art project, I like to partake in it just to kind of show him just to create a process. And he kind of runs with it too. It's cool to see what he'll do. Kind of give him like a brief idea and he runs with it. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I love, and he calls me. He's already in his room. What did he call me tonight? Because they're in science, they're going over, they're learning the periodic table. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, yes. Dude, isn't it awesome? And he's like, you're a nerd. Nerd. I'm the math guy. I'm the science guy. But he does let me do some coloring for him. Yeah, I get it, man. Dude, I work in a field that like every time I say anything about what I do, people are just like, loser. Like, hey, here's the deal, man. I work in tech. It is what it is. Fight me. Look at me and do something. That's awesome. Okay, that's red. That's red. Well, I think we've learned a lot about who you are, what you do. I think it's time we asked some bananas questions. Dude, I've got some good ones. Oh, you got it. Fire away, man. Well, I was going to say, like, as soon as we're done with that, I have a couple of questions I'd be interested in hearing from you guys. Absolutely. Dude, I love that. Thank you. 100%. Let's do it. Honestly, I wanted that to happen organically. I've been waiting for that to happen. Well, yeah, let's do that. Let's do that if you want. Yeah, we can do whatever. Heck, yeah. All right, let me pull him up here. I've got them written down. All right, well, I got one while you're doing that. Do it. What would you say puts a bee in your bonnet? You mean something that razzes me? Something, yeah, that just is a lack of respect. Lack of respect of people's time. I'm a big, big time guy. Yeah, dude, he's a big time guy. Oh, my gosh. Even if I'm going to be 30 seconds late, even to an appointment, I'm like, bro, I'm on my way. I'm getting off at 75th Street right now. I just did the same thing, man, today. And I mean, I have little kids, so my time is a little fluid right now. But it's not bad. But if I'm going to be late, I'm like, I'm going to be late. Ed, you both get the same answer from me. I'm like, dude, you're fine. Just get here safely. Well, yeah, your gift today was hilarious. Well, isn't that nice? Actually, I'll show you. Yeah, that was pretty funny, man. It was hilarious. That was pretty funny. I'm a big time guy. That's just always something. And yeah, church lady. Well, isn't that nice? That was so great. That's awesome, man. Yeah, that's probably my biggest pet peeve is just being respectful of other people's time. We don't have so much of it. Yep. I can agree with that one, too. Yeah. And it's funny because I think the people who are mostly worried about that are also the people on the receiving end who are like, dude, don't worry about it. Yeah. We just get here safely, man. I'll tell you, like, I had one of those. I had one of those moments at work. And it was a meeting I had set up. And it was 15 minutes into a 30-minute meeting that I had set up. And I got sidetracked on a discussion. And I see a message pop up. And they're like, are you going to join this meeting? And I'm like, so I had to be like, and there was like 30 people in the meeting. I walk in like halfway through the meeting time. I'm like, that will never happen again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that. We're only human. Right, yeah. You got to eat curdo every once in a while. You do. But it was one of those times where I'm like, yep, lesson learned. Absolutely, man. What about you? Dude, it's got to be hit in my head. Anything like that that just absolutely fires me up to no end. Like, I could have won the lottery. And if I hit my head, I'm just like 0 to 100 pissed off. And it's not like mad at anything. It's just like, gosh, dang it. And I know nobody's, it's not like people are out there listening to be like, oh, yeah, I love hitting my head. Nobody's saying that, right? But like, that is just one thing that's just like always. I mean, that'll rile me up. Or it doesn't matter where I'm at or at what point in time it happens, my socks will find the wet spot of my home every time. And that would irritate me. That's the worst. That's the worst. That'll piss me off. That's worse than stepping on a Lego. Yeah. I would rather dive onto a Lego. Yeah. Just absolute nose first. I agree. I like that. That's a good one. That's a good one, man. The wet socks thing, that'll irk me something awful. Yeah. Yeah, I have a hard time because to your point, respectfulness and stuff like that, that'll, that's just, it takes me down a different path for sure. Well, if things, that's one of the things I'm just like, I'm going to be a pissy little brad about this. Yeah, totally. I agree. Yeah, I get really, Hensley will be shaking his head as soon as he knows mine. Well, he does know mine. Chewing with your mouth open. Oh, yeah. Do you do that a lot? That's going to hit a nerve when he sees my kids hear this because that is my daughter's number. Oh, man, my daughter, she's the, I mean, she will melt a hole in your head if you're chewing with your mouth open. You chew with your mouth open, Hensley, all the time? Nah, I do it to make him mad. Okay, so now I get it. Yeah, it drives me nuts. Well, in fairness, I mean, I do slurp my drink every time I start an episode. That's ASMR. That's funny. We'll tap and we'll... He knows. The other one, I have two... Burping and farting at the dinner table. Oh, yeah, you get swatted at my house. Yeah, that will irritate me, but the other one... Eating before everyone is sitting down. Bingo. Oh, yeah, that's a respectful thing. I get that. Sit at the table. And that is a Marine Corps thing. I get that. At your table when you're eating with your brothers, you wait until that last Marine sits down before you start eating. Yeah, I totally get that. Totally get that. Well, especially if you're the one cooking dinner. Leaders eat last, right? So it's just like by the time I sit down, everyone's done with dinner and I'm like, okay, well, good dinner, guys. Yeah, thanks. Great conversation. Totally. Yeah, totally. Gosh, glad I just cooked that awesome dinner. All right. Yeah, look at me go. So there are nights we specifically have to tell the boys, we know you're hungry, eat. Yeah, just go for it. Go ahead. That was tonight. That was tonight. Tonight, I turned around. I said, boys, eat. I know you're hungry. Fire away. All right. Pineapple on pizza, crime or culture? Culture, bro. I can do it all day long, man. Yeah, I don't know. I got to agree with him on this. Like I don't love it. I don't love it. Like I'm not in the love hate category. Like I can do pineapple. You can stomach it. Yeah. Wow. So there's a little bit of history here. Okay. So my dad was born in Honolulu. Oh, no way, dude. Okay, there you go. Both through the military. Dad was born in Honolulu. My mom was born in Okinawa. So there's a lot of Hawaiian Portuguese on my dad's side. So dad got that nice tan. Not me. My sister got that, but I didn't get it. So you're eating pineapple on everything. Oh, yeah. Which is weird. My son can't eat pineapple. I can respect that. He's not allergic to it, but he just can't. There's something about it that just doesn't set right. Our family like teriyaki, fried rice, all of that kind of stuff, all the Hawaiian foods. That is huge in our family. So that's probably why I'm a little more. It's funny you bring that up because I can eat teriyaki with pineapple in it. And that's fine. But pizza, I don't know if it's the marinara and the... I love pineapple. I would devour pineapple. I think it depends on how you do it, too. I don't think I don't like all pizza with pineapple on it by any means. And I certainly don't like all different places that do it. And I feel bad for my wife because she wants it on. Her pizza is so bad. And I'm like, she goes, I'll just do half. No, because the juices will go over. I can't have it. The aroma comes over. I just don't want that. Separate boxes. It's the same concept as not liking things in general. So I am not picky by any means. But the one thing I really don't like is bell peppers. Bell peppers specifically. I don't like the taste of them. But every time we go have dinner with my parents, my mom's like, oh, yeah, it's got peppers in it. But just pick them out. I was like, that's not how it works. You can't see it. But I can taste it. It tastes like a pepper. Peppers are adjacent to ass. Can you do jalapenos or any spicy pepper? Yeah. I don't mind spicy pepper. Because it's not like a texture thing. I just don't like the flavor of a bell pepper. They do have kind of like a sweet taste to them. Or like, yeah. They're just a little different. I could see that. It's crazy. Because I'll eat one like an apple. I'll just bite into it. I love onions, too. I'll bite into an onion. Yeah. You got an iron palate. Probably those years at Copenhagen I just gutted. You take a bite out of onion, man. That's just coming out of the pores, man. That's true. I love it. You sleep on the couch these nights, don't you? Off to the couch, bud. You're out. It's like I said, you're like an ogre. Ogres have layers, man. OK. Red, red, red. OK. OK. So you got your dream car, right? So you picked up your dream car. This is off the top of my brain right here. So I'm just going to have it developed. You're going to stick with me for a second. OK. You got your dream car. And you have absolutely nothing to do. But you love the car. You want to show the car off. How do you show the car off? That's a good one. And the state, it's currently, and it's hard to show it off aside from just driving it, what I envision for that car would be like drifting, drag racing, burnouts. OK. OK. Like you grab my attention. So it's not like it's not just like driving down the street with the windows down. No, it is like if the car was capable, I would abuse it in front of people. Hey, that's fair. That's fair. I'm all for it. Like demonstration of horsepower. I'm all for it. I'm all for it. Yeah, I'm right there with you. Within the realm of safety, as long as I'm not putting anyone else in danger. But yeah. Yeah. I would sign up for that show. Yeah. Yeah. That's fun. See, I'm the opposite. I would very much just be like a cruise with the windows down kind of guy. See, I have to do that now because it's slow. Sure. But we'll get there. We'll get there. Once I'm driving by myself and no one else is in danger. Yeah, we'll see. OK, so a bucket list item for both of you. You need to add the Woodward Dream Cruise. I've heard of that. I don't know what that means. Oh, my gosh. It's in Detroit. OK, that really narrows it down for me. 12 miles, nothing but Italians, classic cars, slow cars, fast cars, skinny cars, fab cars. Miles. Red car, blue car. It's a parade. OK. And they don't shut the streets down. So you'll find yourself trying to turn left. Get around this parade. Classic car drivers are like, come on out, man. Yeah. They just let you out. You're trying to get to point B, but you're moving at four miles an hour. Yeah, I get that. But you can't get mad because you're behind a GTO and then you've got an old Camaro behind you. Dude, it is the most beautiful thing and it's a whole weekend. See, that's pretty red. The Woodward Dream Cruise. Yep. You just get to watch them cruise. But they'll rev up. They'll do burnouts. And it's all weekend, man. And they will go till midnight. You'll see it in morning, afternoon, and it's just nonstop. And I swear, you don't see the same car twice. That's rad, dude. I believe it in Detroit. Yeah. It is awesome. I mean, we used to have a guy's weekend out in Springfield, Missouri. And it was like a big Midwest car show. All weekend car show. All the guys would go and drive their cars down there. And same thing. During the day, you're at the fairgrounds looking at cars. And at night is when it was shenanigans. Yeah. And it seemed like year over year, as men tend to do, overdo things, right? Where at first, you're like, oh, someone does a burnout. And the next thing you know, it's like people are doing donuts across five lanes and wiping out cars. And it's like, OK, maybe we need to stop going here. So yeah, I mean, it was one of those things was on Bar of Time. But I was glad to be a part of it for a few years. It's awesome, man. It is pretty cool. It's fun. Yeah. What you got, Nick? All right. So I have one word finishers. So I'm going to read. And I will say blank. And you just got to give me that first answer. Yep. OK. Are you ready? I think so. OK. Fame is blank. Overrated. Money doesn't fix blank. Unhappiness. People should stop. I just lost it. I'm sorry. OK. I'll skip that one because I remember the last one was the internet ruined blank. Social interaction. Yep. There we go. Cool. Yeah. Those are the ones I have for this time. That's right. And you like the best way I've heard about. Oh, we got. Oh, OK. Yeah, never mind. Never mind. Well, we got time. All right, Snoop. The problem with the internet is like you talk at someone, like even like as you tag someone at, you talk at them, not to them. Not to them. Yeah. And also, you know, repercussions for what you say to people. Right. Yeah. So you'll say stuff behind a keyboard that you won't say in person. But. Oh, yeah. Oh, true. Yeah. 100% true. Yeah. Yeah. Degraded social integrity. So. Yep. I sound like an old time. I sound like I'm in my 40s right now. You know what, man? We're in the same company, brother. Look at us go, Hensley. Yeah. Not in our 40s. You young bucks. You both are on the right side of 40. Boom. Yeah. Nailed it. Nailed it. That was a good high five, even though it was a terrible high five. Yeah. Weak wrist. Yeah. I can teach you about that. Next time a high five with your chest. Yeah. Anyway. OK. So you walk into a room and you got a theme song. What's your theme? Oh, I love this one. Or is it just like a beat that you made up in your head? Just. I think of like that. What is it? Like Hulk Hogan, Proud to be American. Oh, yeah. The Hulk Hogan thing. So the cheesy 80s music. Yeah, that's awesome. That'd work for me. Yeah. Or just like the intro to what is it? What was the game show? Like American. Gladiators. American Gladiators. Yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah. A theme song to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember watching that. Like I totally could do that. Like as a kid. I'm like, no, you couldn't. The only thing I could think of was American Ninja Warrior. The only thing I could think of was American Ninja Warrior. I was like, dang it. Yeah. There's a lot of red, white, and blue in both of them. But yeah. OK. You got one more, Nick? I got one. What's a moment that humbled you instantly? I'd probably say the birth of our first child. Yeah. Man, yeah. That'll humble you. Yeah. That's a quick one, too. That definitely got real. It was a miraculous and terrifying moment all at the same time. Right? Something you look forward to. But like not knowing what was on the other side of parenting. Yes. Right? It's real. It's here. And now life is real. And you are taking it home. For sure. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, they're giving it to you to go with. Yeah. You can't take it back now. Sure. Right. And so, yeah, I mean, thank goodness we were able to conceive two beautiful children. But yeah, it got real on the first. It does. And like I said, once you already have a kid and you kind of have an idea of what to expect when you get home. So yeah. But still, she trailblazes all the newness. Each new chapter, the oldest, right? Yeah. Totally. We have uncharted territory the whole time. So yeah, that was a humbling moment. So much so that after she was born, I got really light-headed. Oh, really? Like I mean, like the Vesa-Vegal response where I was just like this. And the nurse is like, are you OK? And I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. And she's like, no, you need to sit down. I'm like, no, I'm fine. She goes, ask the floor now. Oh, yeah. Sit down. OK. OK. She got real firm with me. Like, ask the floor. She's like, you are too big. I'm not going to catch you. Yeah. That's awesome. Well, like, they see that all the time, right? Yeah. They're like, I know better. Don't care what you say. Do it. Yeah. That's so true, man. That's a great one. OK. So I have a couple of questions for you guys. Yeah. If we have time. Dude, dude, you fire away. We're good. You fire away. OK. So it's kind of both one and the same question. Which path you want to go down? A shareable, either embarrassing story, or the best prank you've either been a part of or pulled on someone? I got the embarrassing, man. That takes me a long time. Fire away. OK. So picture this. I'm in a really hot desert, and it's not in America. And a couple of days before this, I noticed I was having some stomach pains. I'm like, man, what is going on? Not like I'm getting sick from anybody over here. And I'm out on patrol, and I have a gas bubble. And I say, all right, I'm going to let it go. I trusted a fart. I've got my Marine behind me going, did you shit yourself? And I turn around as we're walking, and I go, yes. Yes, I did. And I turn back around, and he goes, Corpro, you stink. So a couple of days before this, I drank tainted water. We didn't know it was tainted water, and it was bad. And I totally... One second. Are you leaving? OK. Miso sari. Did we go too long? So I ended up, I had some stomach virus from the tainted water, and I should have never trusted that fart, because I had to walk for another 18 hours that day. That was no big deal. Wow. Dude, I had the worst rash. I can imagine. Even in front of my brother's house embarrassed. It was so bad. That's rough, man. And we ended up calling it the ISV, Iraqi shit virus. Because I wasn't the only one that went down. I was like, don't trust it. Keep it in. Dig a hole and go. Precautions must be taken. I had a new call sign nickname after that. It was Twister, because I was obsessed with the weather, and I was a tornado with legs. It turned over to Dudu. Dudu Brown. Everybody called me Dudu after that. You know, that checks out. This is a harder question than I thought it would be, actually. I was never really like a prank guy, so that was probably problem number one. I did, at one point, me and my buddies went out and did the invisible rope thing in front of a car once. I'm surprised we didn't get our asses kicked on that one. Oh, you know what? When I was in college one year, I did actually do the... It wasn't super glue, but it was Vaseline on the Saran wrap. It just walked right into it. I was like, man, Kevin McAllister really got that shit right. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that's awesome. Oh, man. I like that. I mean, like I said, I wasn't really a prankster, that was probably one of my better ones. My dad had one of the best pranks I've ever heard. My dad is a big prankster, and he got pretty high up in the company that he worked for, and he would just go around to the office to his supervisors. Well, this was the bread company. Yeah, that helped. He'd go around to the supervisors, because he had an office, he had like three offices that he would visit on a weekly basis, and they were a few hours drive away from his home base, but he was one of those leaders, he's never a boss, he was a leader who was in the trenches, so he had mad respect for the people underneath him, and they had mad respect for him, but he was known to be a prankster, and this was the best prank I've ever heard. He took one of his supervisors, picture a desk in that middle drawer, it's pretty narrow, it holds your pens, erasers, and paperclips, so he devised his plan to tape a thumbtack up on top, but pointed toward the back, so nobody would poke their fingers on it or anything. He rolled up, blew up a balloon, filled it with glitter, put it to the back of the drawer, so he knew it wouldn't pop until the drawer pulled all the way out, and his supervisor was just covered in glitter. One of the best pranks I've ever heard in my life, but picture my dad, my dad's like, nobody bother me, I'm in an important meeting right now. Oh my gosh, man. That's pretty rad. I think the more thought and effort you put into a prank, the better the pain is on it. He'll appreciate me bringing that up too. I always wish I was a better prankster, I just never really was. I feel like I'm creative enough. When we were younger, TPing used to be the thing. And I remember some of my buddies, they got really cruel with how they TPed people's houses and they'd go break off forks in the yard and Saran wrap the house. I think one of the best ones I ever saw was actually happened to my older sister. I think I've told you this. There was one morning I wake up and it's in the middle of summer and I come downstairs and I look out front and it's really bright outside and I'm like, what is on the ground? It looks like it's snowed. And my sister's out there with, it was either maybe a rake or a leaf blower, but I was kind of looking, I'm like, what is that on the yard? And I asked my mom, I'm like, what's going on? She goes, go outside and talk to your dad. I'm like, okay, so yeah, go talk to dad. And so go out there and I'm like, I'm like, there's like popcorn covering our whole front yard. Oh my gosh. And so she, my sister's out there. That's a lot of popcorn. Yes, it was a ton of popcorn. It was like something like 30 something bags of popcorn. And apparently my sister had a feud going with some girl that worked at the movie theater and she had been collecting the old popcorn except throwing it away. She kept all this popcorn for weeks and dumped it on the yard. And the finishing touch was they wrote a word on the driveway in peanut butter, right? And so peanut butter has a lot of oil in it, right? So you think you cleaned it off, but you didn't. So every time it rains after that, it's kind of like tire shine, right? Yep. So yeah, that was fun. I remember you telling me that story. I was like, man, sis. Well, you know, and I look at our house now, I'm like, I'm glad T-Ping is not a thing anymore. Like we have tall trees at our house. They have like beautiful, mature trees. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it'd be a disaster. Yeah, it would. Yeah, it was probably one of those days you were in, we were talking about why don't kids pull pranks like this anymore? Because you get sued now. Yeah, you get sued now, right? Toilet paper's too expensive now, I mean. That's true. We live through COVID now. They're like, yeah, that's just straight money in the trash. You're not going to throw that away? No, gosh, man. Okay, that was a good one. I like it. Yeah, I just wish I was a better prankster. I don't think I had enough of that in my days. It's unfortunate. That's all right. Yeah. What else you got? I have plenty of embarrassing moments, but I don't know how much time we got. Do it too, baby. Whatever questions you got, we're happy for. Man, I wish I would have came better prepared. I was going to write down some notes, but I figured I would just kind of let it happen. Nah, man, it's chill. In your defense, you asked me, and I said, nah, man, just fart around and grow out. Dude, I overthink everything. No, you're good. To a fault. Okay, so we have to ask one more really good question, though, because it's the best question for everyone. What is your favorite mythological creature, and what sound does it make? You know, I've heard you ask this before, and it never even occurred to me that I'd be on the other end of this microphone. Oh, did you hear that idiot roar? What idiot? Wow, I don't even know how to answer that. It'd be whoever the god of horsepower is. The god of horsepower and revving V8s. Yeah, but no exhaust. Dude, that's rad, man. Yeah, it's funny because it's like, it's one of those questions that's like, yeah, there could be a lot of things that go into that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not good with Greek mythology at all. Got to go with the centaur, man. I hate to be a one-note pony with the trends, but man, it's just what I'm into. You got any other questions, Nick? I got it. I got billions of questions. I could go all night on questions. All right. My brain is full of stuff. Okay, I got one. Yeah, fire away. What's something you'll never publicly admit until right now? To be careful because I think my kids are going to listen to this. Earmuffs. Man, too much dead air. I wish you would have given that to me earlier. I would have had a good answer for it, but I know like on the spots that publicly admit it. Would it be like a regret? Yeah, it could be that. Probably one of my biggest regrets was not finishing my college degree. There was life circumstances that occurred, and by the time I went back, the way everything kind of transpired for me, it was funny. I remember having to talk with my team lead at the time. Part of the deal was like, yeah, you can be a part of this team, but part of it is you have to be in school for things. Just show mutual effort, right? And then I achieved a promotion, and it was kind of one of those things where I was like, well, what's your time worth, right? The responsibilities are such that I felt like that kind of passed me already. So I think more or less it's something that I started and didn't finish that kind of irks me. So I wish I could have that to set that example for my kids. And I've always told both my kids, I was like, you guys don't have to go to school, but whatever it is you choose to do, like go all in, right? You know what I mean? That's how I was raised. Don't dip a toe in. Just make sure it's what you want to do. Sometimes it may not click or it may not work out. Always be promotable. That's just something that I would offer to my kids, is that whatever you want to do, just make sure it's something that you won't get tired of, right? Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's probably my biggest regret as far as things that I don't openly own. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. Just being on this side of you. Dude, I am, was it 19 credit shy? So I'm right there. I feel you, bro. Well, so I did one semester at KU. I didn't get into the school I wanted to get into, and so we got into general education classes, and at that time we had a family tragedy occur, so we had to kind of put that on hold and take care of that. It was kind of as such, though, that I was so distracted, that it wasn't until years down the road when I went back to school, where I'm like, now it's time to look at what my grade was when I was there. And I was like, whoa. I was like, yeah, clearly I was not present for that semester of college. More in a mental way. That would probably be the biggest one that I would be like, yeah, if I could do things differently, I'd go back and finish what I started there. I get that. Isn't it funny, though, that we're the only ones that'll beat ourselves up over it? Because your kids aren't looking at you like, oh, why didn't you? People you work with aren't going, oh, why? True. Yeah. You did what you did. Yeah. Well, the thing is, and it's funny because I'm around a ton of people with fancy degrees. Oh, absolutely. I'll tell you. I'm like, well, you can learn how to do this one thing, but it doesn't teach you common sense and the soft skills of life, which, again, going back to the foundation of a blue collar hard work ethic, there's social skills. They might be a little rough around the edges, but it teaches you how to interact with people and those soft skills. You just can't teach it. No, not at all. The hard skills, yeah, you can learn that. Right. I'm with you. I totally agree. Yep. That's a good one, too. I mean, it's tough, too, but at the same time, it's also in a world where it's pretty acceptable now. It's just one of those things. It's not back to that nature of everything has to have a degree to do anything. I don't know. It is weird, though, because at that time when you see all the people, all of your peers around you kind of doing the trending thing, where you kind of feel like odd man out, and I was just kind of like, well, so it was probably a little more pronounced inside my head at that time. I'm to the point now where I'm like, well, it worked out. I have a family. I have a house. I'm happy. Right, right. That's good, man. I've got the points. Right. True, very true. Yeah, I mean, if it works, it works. I get what you're saying, though, on the on the basis of start and finish. Totally. As far as the example for the kids, I get that. But, you know, it was a lot of education. I still have it, right? It's not like it goes to waste, but it's just like it was also a lot of work that I really didn't fully reap the benefit of. Sure. So it feels like, you know, better than that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's great. True. Yeah, it's true. It's like the older I get, the more I trust my gut. It's never stood me wrong. You know, as long as that's that's going all right, I'm good to go. The warm and fuzzy I can go on. That's real true, man. Yeah, I mean, intuition is a big deal. So I agree with that. OK, OK. Different direction. If aliens visited Earth and you were the first person they contacted, how would you explain our existence? It puts the lotion on its skin. Yeah, yeah. Alan Traylor. Come see what I got in the garage. Exactly. Exactly. This is a real spaceship. Love it. Does yours have a hammock? How fast does it go? Might speed my ass. Show me your weapons. I'll show you mine. So there you go. I'll trade you one for one. Right. Yeah. Yours looks interesting. Let me try that out. Where's the wheel? That's rad. Yeah, yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, because it's like, man, I don't even know. I don't even know where to start. I remember my answer to this one. Yeah, I said we're not all like this. It's true. I think I'd be just frozen in. Yeah, man. Just disbelief. If I saw something like that, I would be scared to move. Yeah. I'd be covered in my bow or whatever. No probing. No probing. I don't want that. That's awesome. That's awesome. You got any more, Nick? Oh, yeah. I got lots. I can go all night on questions. So yeah, I've got some good ones here. All right. I don't like that one. If you want. Yeah, go ahead. OK. Go ahead. So if you discovered you were the last person on Earth, what's the first thing you would do? Let's see. I know. I know. The first thing I'd have to do is just it'd be survival instinct first. So food, water, shelter. Yeah. Yeah. And then leveraging technology to see if there's anyone else out there on the waves. Yeah. You become a radio host. Just like out there. It's like anybody out there. I'll do a podcast. Well, what was the movie? What movie am I thinking of with Will Smith? Oh, I am legend. I am legend. Yeah. I am legend. Yes. Dude, that Mustang was sweet. Yeah. It was sweet. I mean, I can just kind of picture yourself out there and you're just giving yourself the benefit of the doubt, thinking that people are out there and just, hey. This is Disco Dan coming to you from Kansas City. And it's about 38 degrees out here tonight. But if you're out there, you should swing on by the neighborhood and let me know what's going on because I'm bored as hell. You know, it's funny you say that. My dad's name is Don and everyone calls him Disco Don. Even better. Yeah, that's going to ring true. That's hilarious, man. I will say I do have a story that kind of felt like that vibe to it. I had a few buddies that went out to Pitt State. I think I just told you the story earlier this week. And they were both in a fraternity out there. And so we went out there and did the fraternity thing. We were at the house and that was notorious for being the first to bed. Too hard in the paint. Time to go to bed, right? And so I went up to my buddy's room, fall asleep, and I wake up probably about four in the morning and a full fraternity house, completely empty, music still on, lights still on, all the doors are open. And I'm walking around and there is no one. So I go into the back of the house. All the cars are still there. And I'm like, Twilight Zone. I had to pinch myself because I know we were partying. But I was just like, what happened? And so I was so freaked out about it. And I was calling my friends and they weren't answering. Classic friends. It was more bizarre than anything that it was like you just zapped all the people out of the party. Yeah, it's very Twilight Zone. And it was to the point where I'm like, I'm just going to go home. No one's answering their phones. And I made it halfway home. My buddy finally called. He's like, where'd you go? And I'm like, that's exactly what I said. I was like, where'd you go? And he's like, we had to do some things. And I'm like, oh, yeah, you're in a fraternity. So it was the most bizarre. But a house that big that was not a single other person in there. This is crazy. But you couldn't walk through that house in any direction when I went to bed. There were so many people. Totally empty. And to wake up and no one was there, it freaked me out. That would be a trip. I'm done hanging out with you guys. That would be something. That would be something. And I'm home alone. Right. Exactly. This huge house. Hello. Oh, man, that'd be a trip. I made him disappear. I have a feeling the answer to this question is going to be a lot like my answer was. Yeah. All right. If you were arrested, what would your friends assume you did? Oh, great question. High speed pursuit. Yep. That was mine. That checks out. Which I've never done for the record, so. Exactly. Yeah, that's 100% on the record. I've never done that. I have a flawless driving record. Nice. Nice. Even better. Now that I'm over 25. Yes. Mine. It all disappeared. All the evidence disappeared. Yeah. It's all gone away. Yeah, I just got pulled over recently with my wife in the car. Do you remember me telling you? Yes. Yeah. Did I tell you about this? Were you on vacation? No, this was here. We were running late for back to school night at PRT for Hensley. And well, no, I'm sorry. Yeah, it was just a parent. So we had to drop him off at home field for a workout. And we had to high tail it back to PRT. So I don't know if you know where home field is in Olathe. Yeah. So we're cutting it kind of close on time and I'm high tailing. And we're in her vehicle and I'm on it. I'm just like, look, we got to get there. Yeah. And we come up to Lackman and college and the light is red. And when I say red, dude, it's red. Now, it was fresh red. So there's no immediate danger to the intersection. And I zip right through it. Buzz right through it. And she goes, oh my gosh, that was red. And I go, I know. I was like, baby, we got to get there. She goes, you're going to get pulled. Yep, you're getting pulled over. There it is. And it was a motorcycle cop. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, and it's Olathe. Oh, I'm screwed. Crab attack. Like, motorcycle cop, it's done. Yeah. Right. Yeah. He comes up. He goes, you know why I pulled you over? And I go, fuck, I'm not going to lie. I know exactly why you're pulling. I, yeah, the light was red. And he goes, yeah. And I think he said he clocked me like 70 to 45. That's a little more than you should be going. It was bad. He goes, look, I don't like writing tickets to veterans. And I'm like, there's a button there. He goes back. I give him all the information. He goes back and she goes, and she's just sitting there just like rolling her eyes. And she's pissed. Yeah. And he comes back. He hands my stuff back. He goes, look, all you had to do was look left. And I was in that left turn lane. I'm like, with all due respect, I didn't give a shit. The light was red. And it was, be safe. Get to the school. Do your thing. We get there. And I'm like, are we good? Because she's been pretty quiet for the rest of the trip. She goes, I just need you to say you're never going to do that again. I go, look, here's the thing. This is a God's honest truth. I don't do that. We just had to be here. We got out of hand. Of course. I floored it. Circling back to earlier, I respect people's time. I had to get there on time. I had to get there on time. She's like, just don't do it again. I go, I won't do it again. Did you learn your lesson? Yes. What lesson? I'm like, I'm more scared of you than a cop. But she's like, and he carries a gun. She goes, you were so calm with him. You were just like, chumming it up. And I go, well, how am I supposed to act? And she goes, how many times have you been pulled over? And I go, I feel like this is a trap. Clearly only once. Don't be honest. Don't be honest. I was honest. I was like, I don't know, 200? A give or take. But I do, knock on wood here, I usually, because I just chum it up. And I shouldn't get away with them. But I do. I think their interaction is always going to be how you behave towards them, right? That's going to set the tone for it, for sure. I mean, my hands were up on the wheel. I did the same thing. Keys on the dash, hands on the wheel. Window was down before they even got up there. And I reached for my wallet. Yeah, my wallet's my right back pocket. That's what I told him. I got to reach for my back pocket. And he goes, go ahead and get it. Got to keep it chill, right? I get it. I get it. OK, OK. What is your go-to zombie apocalypse weapon? Does it have to be one I already possess? No, it doesn't have to be. He's going to call me. All you have to do is hold me. I'll park fire. Yeah, hold you by your feet and spin around real fast. I don't have rule number one. Cardio is not down for me. I don't know, something with a chainsaw or RPG. I feel like you have to go with that. There has to be the satisfying and the realistic, right? Like the practical. You'd have to have some kind of projectile weapon of sorts. Flamethrower. Dude, I love flamethrowers. Yeah, but would it do anything? Oh, it'd be a hell of a show. Yeah, but only for like, I don't know, 30 seconds. RPG. RPG would be sweet. Yeah. Some projectile. Chainsaw. Chainsaw would be sweet. Yeah, if the flamethrower doesn't do it, the RPG will do it. And if that doesn't do it, the chainsaw will do it. That's a fair point. I would definitely be like the guy that's got the barbed wire wrapped around a bat or something, you know, or just like all the nails. Yeah, yeah. But they have to get close for that. That's all right. Within swinging distance. It's true. They have to get way closer with a chainsaw. That's true. That's true. Because I don't know many people that can one hand a chainsaw. I was thinking like more like a bayonet with a chainsaw. Ah, like a pole saw. Like a pole saw. Like by the end of a barrel somehow. Yeah, yeah. Ooh, that would make sense. Yeah, I mean, it is a zombie apocalypse weapon. It could be crafty. Yeah. Yeah. That's a fair one. I kind of like that. I might be going down that route. I'm good with swinging things. I'd have to get the 30 millimeter cannon from an A-10. Yeah. Yeah. Just live in a tank forever. That'd be awesome. When it absolutely positively must be killed. Yeah, yeah. 30 millimeter cannon. Yeah, there you go. You know, it definitely does the job. It does. It's certainly not going to lose. They work. Highly effective. Good to know. That's really good to know. Now that I know that, yeah, I got to do more research. Why not for civilian use? I don't know. I know. Like, why? Yeah. I get it, man. I get it. Be the guy in the corner. It's going to be fun. Yeah. Yeah. I promise. I want one mounted to the roof of the house. Oh, yeah. Now you're talking. Put this right here. Faces that direction. We can see everything. Just in case. That would be awesome. Why do you think I put this rounded window in here? What else am I supposed to do? Right. You got to set up a post on top of the house. It makes sense. It makes sense. I remember when, speaking of big machine guns, Gatlin-style guns that you put on aircraft, I remember watching a video one time. Gosh, I wasn't in the Marine Corps that long at this point. Maybe a year. And they wanted to show you the recoil power of a 25-millimeter cannon, the type that goes on the front of the Cobra helicopter. And it really gets you to respect the airframe that this thing's on. They strapped one to the top of a Humvee on a test track, and it was all radio-controlled. There's nobody in the Humvee. But they get the Humvee going at 60 miles an hour, and they touched that cannon off. And it's hard to picture this, but 60 miles an hour, and it totally flipped backwards like it was a piece of paper in the wind. I mean, 60 miles an hour to negative 300. That's crazy. Like that. That's crazy. And you think that thing goes on the front of something that's flying, and that thing's okay. But it'll send a Humvee flying like it's a stone. It was incredible. That's crazy. I mean, just to think of the sheer force. And you know what they said? They said, we need five millimeters more. We need a 30. Always. Why not? Always. Where's the line? Bigger's better, right? Dude. Incredible. Yeah, it was awesome. That's bananas, man. That's a lot of force. It is. Packed into one. It is a lot. One thing. Well, like if you think of like sustained fire of like an A-10, right? Yeah. Right. And the fact that they lock in whenever they start pulling trigger. And when they pull trigger, I mean, they're shooting off 3,000 rounds. Right. Yeah. And that thing's still carrying 400 knots flying through the air. My dad is head over heels over A-10. Oh, A-10's fine. That is his favorite. So there was a pilot that's been making his rounds on the podcast circuit that he makes these 3D printed. What size are the shells? I don't remember what the shells are. 30 millimeter. 30 millimeter, right? Yeah. And so like the casing on it's real, but the round itself is 3D printed. Yeah. And he signs it, but like there's a sticker on it that says die, call me die. Because that's the battle burst. That's what they said. Yeah. Right. So that's as long as you hold down the trigger is to say that. Like that's the historic way they train that. But yeah. So yeah, he's got that sitting up on the shelf in his garage. That's wild. Yeah. Machine gun. When we're machine gunning on the range, we would, yeah, you'd yell out die, MF or die. Yeah. I mean, you know, I guess that's the training. And that's your timing. Yeah. It's cadence. You don't want to overheat the barrel. I have zero to go off of. I don't know. But it's fun after a range. If you throw a piece of bacon up on that barrel, it'll fry for you. Oh man. You know, again, I have nothing to go. I have to trust you that that's true. And night ops, dude, it starts glowing the barrel. It's incredible, man. You know, those tracer bullets out there. What's wild is you look at those like, and I'm going to ruin the count here, but I want to say heart monitor. It's in like a Cobra 810. It's probably like every 150 to 200 rounds is a tracer. And you think about how fast you're seeing those tracers. Yeah. Yeah. That is wild. In an M16 or an M4 that we're shooting, it's every third is a tracer. And when you go full auto, it's like, brrr, don don. Yeah. And you see nothing but tracers flying. Geez, man. I guess you're not seeing the others. It feels like you're only, since you can only see the tracers, it feels like it makes sense. It's wild. That is wild. You got any other questions? I'm good. I got questions to go for the end of the century, so we'll have to cut it off at some point. All right. No worries. Do your thing, man. Yeah, man. But it has been awesome. We appreciate the heck out of you coming and making this happen. Super fun. I'm glad we got to actually finally do it. I know we've been talking about it a little while, so Nick's been saying that we've had some mishaps, but that's okay. That's just what it's all about. It happens. Just what it's all about. And thanks to the wife and kids for getting ready for a little bit. Yeah. So we can bro out. Yeah, they're fine. They were excited for me, but thanks for having me, guys. Like I said, I spend a lot of time listening to podcasts, so it's interesting to be on this side of it. Even just putting the headphones on is an experience. It's all about just getting on here and just talking real life, man. That's what it all becomes. And I think I just wish more people were able to do it. I don't think enough people are. So I mean, that's really what it's all about. So we appreciate you coming and doing that with us because Heck yeah, man. That's why we're here. Yeah, anytime, man. Let people be people first, man. That's all it is. Let people be people first. So that's rad, dude. Well, as always, it has been an awesome episode. And feel free to check us out on our Instagram, which I know you don't even know about yet, but I changed the Instagram handle. What? Yes, exactly. So now we do this to each other a lot, though. Yeah, we do. Well, hey, by the way, I reached out to or I did this or yeah. Well, here's the deal. You know, it was much easier. 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