Good Health for Business & Family

Brandie Nicole Adams, certified health coach and founder of Revealed Healing, discusses the importance of professional support in health and wellness. 

They discuss Brandie's journey from a side hustle to a full-time entrepreneur, the significance of self-care, and the impact of negative self-talk on mental health. Brandie emphasizes the need for non-negotiables in wellness routines and the role of community in supporting personal transformation. The conversation highlights the balance between discipline and grace in parenting and self-care, encouraging listeners to recognize and address their negative self-talk.

More About Brandie Nicole Adams
Brandie Nicole is a Certified Health Coach and the founder of Revealed Healing and The Revealed Healing Blueprint, a transformational program helping women lose fat, build lean muscle, and reclaim their energy through faith-infused, sustainable strategies for full body wellness.

With over a decade of experience in health and fitness, Brandie specializes in guiding women to take confident ownership of their health—without restriction, confusion, or shame. Her holistic approach combines balanced nutrition, effective training, emotional wellness, and biblical principles to support women in honoring their bodies as the sacred temples they are.

Brandie’s mission is rooted in transformation—both physical and spiritual. She equips women with the tools and strategies to care for their bodies from a place of purpose, so they can show up with boldness in every area of life. Through her coaching, clients experience measurable improvements in energy, sleep, stress, and self-confidence while deepening their relationship with God and themselves.

Whether working with busy professionals, moms, or women navigating major life transitions, Brandie creates a safe, empowering space where real change can happen—and last.

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Transcript

Religious Disclaimer (00:25)
This show is not rooted in any particular religion or belief system. We decided to have her on the show anyway because she has a great message to share around health and wellness, which is the foundation to any successful business or parenting journey. If Christianity does not resonate with you, that's totally fine. I encourage you to listen with open ears anyway.

And do your best to translate any Christian references into words that you would prefer to use. So for example, if you don't believe in God, but instead you use Allah or universe or something else, then every time that this guest mentions God, you can swap out that word for your preferred word. This is personally a method that I use and it actually works really well in helping me to be able to sift through

religious references and better understand what it is that someone is sharing with me. It's overall a great method for being able to hear other people whose opinions and perspectives are different than mine. If religion is a hard pass for you and you just don't want to listen to this episode, we have released an alternative episode today for you to listen to instead.

And course, if you're looking for a double dose of inspiration and you want to listen to both episodes, we deeply, deeply appreciate your support. Thanks again for tuning in and let's get to the show.

Kaila Sachse (02:02)
Welcome to the Bringing Up Business podcast, where we talk about business and parenting. I'm your host, Kaila Sachse, toddler mom and owner of a marketing and creative agency called Yumari Digital. Yumari Digital specializes in websites, branding, and marketing for small businesses and solopreneurs. Today's guest, Brandie Nicole Adams, has a lot of great advice to share.

She will be speaking mainly to women, but her advice can be helpful for all parents. Brandie Nicole is a certified health coach and the founder of Revealed Healing and the Revealed Healing Blueprint, a transformational program helping women lose fat, build lean muscle, and reclaim their energy through faith-infused, sustainable strategies for full body wellness.

With over a decade of experience in health and fitness, Brandie specializes in guiding women to take confident ownership of their health without restriction, confusion, or shame.

She equips women with the tools and strategies to care for their bodies from a place of purpose so they can show up with boldness in every area of life. Through her coaching, clients experience measurable improvements in energy, sleep, stress, and self-confidence while deepening their relationship with God and themselves.

Whether working with busy professionals, moms, or women navigating major life transitions, Brandie creates a safe, empowering space where real change can happen and fast. Brandie, I'm excited to chat wellness with you and welcome to the show.

Brandie Nicole Adams (03:51)
Thank you so much. very excited to be here.

Kaila Sachse (03:54)
Yeah, same, same. So let's dive into your story a little bit. Tell us about your journey from side hustle to full-time entrepreneur and what that's been like.

Brandie Nicole Adams (04:05)
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely been a journey. So when I was little, I was always very ⁓ creative. Like I always loved to make things I was I considered myself like a little artist, I love to finger paint. And I had a lot of like,

spare time on my hands when I was little. So I was always very imaginative and I just like to, I like to make things. I like to see change. I like to see transformation happen and taking like a blank canvas and making something beautiful out of it. And so I feel like I've always had that innate desire in me to not only to create, but also to promote change and transformation. And so when I was little, would come up with these little like weird

Kaila Sachse (04:44)
Hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (04:49)
business ideas because my mom would always encourage me to like put my thoughts out there, put my ideas out there. She always told me, know, you're smart, you're powerful, like you can do whatever you want to do in this life. And so I would start to, you know, just drop little cartoons, little things that I thought was cute and whatnot. But as I grew older, you know, and as I went through school, there was always a dichotomy like a

opposition between what was happening at home and struggles that were going on like within my family and what was going on at school because I went to a private Baptist school that was pretty strict. And then my home was not always aligned with what the school was promoting and what the school wanted us to do and how they wanted us to live our lives as kids.

I was one of the only black girls at this school. And so I started to feel like I wasn't good enough. I started to feel like my ideas didn't really matter. And I actually started to feel shame in some ways, kind of about who I was, how different I was, about how my family, quote unquote, wasn't as good as some of the other families that were in this private school. And so I just really started to feel isolated.

which then kind of shut down my voice. And then I stopped speaking up as much. I was still creative on the inside. I still wanted so much more than what I saw happening in my life. But because of the shame and just because of feeling different, I held back and I really pulled back from what God had planted in me. And so as I grew up,

Kaila Sachse (06:13)
Hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (06:33)
There was always this ⁓ tug of war between what I feel like God put in me and between what was actually happening in my life and what I was allowing to happen into my life. And so there was a place where I got into complacency. And so complacency is very dangerous because you can be a very ambitious and a very driven person in areas that are not necessarily the most important areas.

Kaila Sachse (06:47)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. ⁓

Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (07:00)
So I

was very ambitious. I was very perfectionistic in a lot of ways, but not necessarily in the ways that God wanted me to be ambitious. And so instead of really focusing on what has God planted in me? What does he want me to do with my life? I started focusing on, how do I get an A plus on this term paper? How do I make the perfect...

a book report or whatever it is, how do I do my very best in school? How do I do my best working for this employer? And that's actually a good, it's a good thing to have. Like you should want to do your best in whatever you're doing. You want to do your best, but it also became like an obsession. So it became like this ungodly way of trying to perform in order to think I'm okay. And I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. And so in doing that, I was very distracted from

Kaila Sachse (07:30)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Mmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (07:55)
what God wanted me to do, which I now know is he wanted me to use my creativity and my knowledge and my desire for transformation. He wanted me to use that as a health coach. And that was just not what I was doing. I wanted to be the best in school, which I did do very well in school, but I also wanted to, I just assumed I was gonna work for somebody because that was what happened in my bloodline, in my family. My mom always worked for somebody.

My dad always worked for somebody. My grandparents always worked for people. And then going all the way back to slave times, obviously, like this is in the bloodline where my family works for people. And so I took that on, I just assumed it. And I assumed once I get out of college, this is what I'm gonna have to do. And that literally crushed the dream, the seed that God had planted in me to create a transformational business. And so I'm going through all this and I'm going through this war.

Kaila Sachse (08:39)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (08:53)
in my calling, but I'm also going through a war like in my own body where I'm starting to feel like again, in my bloodline, there's a history of, know, kidney disease, there's a history of diabetes, there's a history of high blood pressure. And what was different about me is that I saw these things in my family line, I saw these things in my bloodline and I wanted to change it. And so from the time I was very little, I like,

Kaila Sachse (09:15)
Hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (09:18)
refused to eat meat. were certain meats I refused to eat. There were certain things I just refused to eat, not only because I didn't like it, but because I saw everybody else kind of doing it excessively and I didn't want to do that. And my mom was really the only person who taught me about, you know, kind of taking care of your body. And like, this is what a lot of people do. And, you know, she turned to like diet foods and things that weren't necessarily great, but she had this thing in her mind of like health. And so I took

kind of the good parts of that from her. And I wanted to kind of do this on my own because the other thing in school is that I was always just bigger than other kids. Like once I hit like fourth, fifth grade, I was just larger than other girls. And, you know, being one of the only black girls in the school, that was something where I was uncomfortable. It just really forced more shame and, you know, more negative self-talk on me. And so as I grew up in my

Kaila Sachse (09:50)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (10:18)
teens and even into college and my early 20s, I really struggled with eating disorders. I struggled with wanting to be really skinny and I struggled with overeating and just all these things going back and forth. And it wreaked havoc on my body, of course. When you're losing 30 pounds and then gaining 30 pounds and then gaining another 10 and losing another 20, your body is going to freak out.

Kaila Sachse (10:44)
Just, right.

Right.

Brandie Nicole Adams (10:47)
No better

way to say that. And so all of this was a distraction from my calling, from my purpose, from the business that God had implanted in me. All of these things, I was struggling with my identity, my size, my food, my health, going to doctors, know, getting vitamin infusions, because I didn't eat for however many days or whatever it was. These were all things that the enemy was using to hold me back from the purpose that God had for me.

Kaila Sachse (11:09)
Hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (11:16)
You know, as a Christian, as someone who just loves God, I've always tried to work to prove that I've loved God as when I was younger. And so as a Christian, had to grow into a place of just resting and listening and allowing God's love to really come over me. And then my love for him, I moved out of my love for him to then change and then turn and repent. this whole

Kaila Sachse (11:27)
Mm.

Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (11:43)
process, this whole sanctification process, like it has been, it has been a process. But I was saved in when I was in fourth grade. And you know, since then, it's like the enemy has been just trying to use all these different things in my life, these different things in my bloodline to really hold back my purpose. And so I finally got to a breaking point where, you know, I just got out of like a really toxic relationship,

But I was also really still struggling with self image body issues. And this was way back in 2013. And I was working out like way too much. I was I was in the gym like several times a day for a couple hours. And I only eat like a certain limited very limited calories like in the couple hundred calories. So I was really in the throes of a pretty terrible

Kaila Sachse (12:11)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

⁓

Brandie Nicole Adams (12:39)
⁓ eating disorder and I was sick obviously I was still I was still pushing so hard and I just heard the Lord tell me I want you to go to church like it was a local church it was a you know pretty big church it was on a Sunday and I just remember walking into that church I just so happened which we know is you know God ordaining me to walk into this community of creatives it was a literally

Kaila Sachse (13:06)
Mmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (13:07)
community that sits together at church and they were creatives. And this woman just pulled me aside and she just kind of took me in and she was just like, are you okay? And you know, from that moment, I just became part of the community. I started going to people's houses, being involved in their small groups and their gatherings, getting into the word. And it was in that moment that God told me like, I'm gonna get

what I planted out of your life. Like you will start producing fruit, but I need you to heal. And when I heard him say he needed me to heal, I said, I know God is going to reveal something to me in this healing. And so I started to heal. I went to the doctors, you know, went to the specialist, started taking the vitamins, started eating properly. And that took some time to figure out like what food is working for me, what food isn't working for me. And that's something that is really important to me.

Kaila Sachse (13:37)
Mmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (14:03)
as a coach that women understand like what foods work for you, not just what is popular, not just, you know, to do right now. What's the popular food? What's the popular injection? Nothing like that. What is the food that is going to work for you? And as I surrendered my health and this drive to constantly do the right thing and be the best, as I surrendered that to God, he revealed to me these different

Kaila Sachse (14:09)
Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (14:29)
layers of healing, like my digestion started to heal, my depression started to heal, my anxiety started to heal. And finally I got to this place where I felt so much better and I felt so grateful for what God was doing. I was like, I feel like God is calling me to help other women do this. The feeling coming out of a pit and seeing that first glimmer.

Kaila Sachse (14:51)
Yeah. ⁓

Brandie Nicole Adams (14:57)
of sunshine. I mean, it's it's one of those things where once you see it, you can't unsee it. Once God does it, it's not going to be undone. And so I started, you know, doing all of the training to become a health coach. and it was it was a lot of work. I started doing, you know, all the practice calls, all the educational testing and all the things that you have to go through. And I was finally certified in in 2016. And

Kaila Sachse (14:58)
Thank you.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (15:25)
Of course, when you reach a certain level, it's just like training. Like once you reach a certain level of training, you're gonna have new problems. So once I this certain level of healing in my life, once I accomplished a lot of what God wanted to do in me, I encountered new problems. It's kind of like the depression comes back in a new way. The anxiety comes back in a new way, but just kind of evolved form of these things. And I knew that God was calling me

Kaila Sachse (15:34)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (15:55)
to now start my own business. And so what I was afraid of though, is I was afraid of like, what if I don't make the money? What about the healthcare? What about the benefits? What about all these things that I have at my now job? Cause I'm working full time. I'm a health coach trying to start this business, trying to do all these things. So I'm juggling a lot of things. And out of my fear of not having the money, not having

Kaila Sachse (16:08)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (16:22)
the benefits, what if I get sick and I don't have healthcare, like all that kind of stuff. I tried to keep working, working full time and doing my business on the side. So what God was calling me to do, I was trying to do it on the side, which doesn't work. And so, know, God was patient with me. He was gracious with me. And he told me, you know, I'm going to allow you to do this for some time until I got to a point where I was working for a nonprofit.

Kaila Sachse (16:36)
Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (16:52)
And this was my way of trying to kind of sidestep what I think God wanted to do was like, when working for a nonprofit, like I'm still doing work for you. I'm just not doing exactly what you put in my heart, but I'm still, you know, I'm still trying to do it on this side. Still trying to do it my way. Still trying to have control. And ⁓ God was like, okay, like, I'm going to allow you to do this for a while until you lose your job. So I ended up losing my job.

Kaila Sachse (17:05)
Mm.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (17:22)
from this full-time position that I had. And it was actually a blessing because the way that that particular organization was being run, I just didn't feel that God was in it. I felt like they were trying to do the right thing, but just the way behind the scenes. Like once you pull back the curtain, it was kind of like, ⁓ this is what we're doing. And that had happened at my last two jobs that I had had in the nonprofit space. And that's not to say that

Kaila Sachse (17:42)
Mmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (17:51)
the fruits that were being produced were bad. It was just what was going on behind the scenes. It was kind of like not great. And so it was actually a blessing that God pulled me out of that and said, now I really want you to focus on where I've put you. And so from there, ⁓ my company, I had had a signature program previously. And when God was doing this new thing in my business, I created this whole new program. Like I went to a

completely different ⁓ business class and business training so that I could create a whole new signature program just to signal and to kind of lay down ⁓ like a landmark. Like this is something new that I'm doing going forward. And it was actually one of the biggest blessings that God gave to me because again, this was a new level of healing that he was doing in my life. And it just reinforced my whole business. What I want women to experience

Kaila Sachse (18:36)
Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (18:50)
is I want them to experience the healing of God on different levels. Like if you have never worked out before a day in your life and you think, I could never run a mile. I could never lift weights. I can never do these things. I want women to understand you can do it. And that's the first level of your revealed healing. And there are multiple levels that you go through and you get used to working through the struggle because the scripture

Kaila Sachse (19:09)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (19:17)
Because in this world, you will have trouble. But take heart because I've overcome the world. And so because God is with us, because he cares and he plants these seeds in us, he will give us the harvest out of our lives. But we have to surrender and we have to walk in obedience to him. And these are just lessons that I continue to learn over and over in different ways. It's like I go in the gym, I do the same reps, but depending on, you

Kaila Sachse (19:20)
Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (19:47)
what kind of training I'm doing, know, lifting heavier, I'm lifting lighter, but it's the same discipline of going into the gym and doing the work when I'm meal prepping. It's the same discipline of coming home and making the food and not doing takeout, not doing, you know, getting delivered to your house, you know, not doing that stuff, but actually putting the effort. It's the same thing in my spiritual life. And, know, really in all of our spiritual lives, we show up, we put in the work, we put in the effort.

Kaila Sachse (20:06)
Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (20:16)
And then God will bless that work that we're doing as long as we're in obedience and surrender to what he wants to do with our lives. And so that's really been my story. It's been a lot of up and down, of course, but you know, just a lot of creativity that God planted in me, a lot of ⁓ discernment that he's given me and just a lot of grace he's given me to be able to do what I do as a coach and to really help promote transformation in the lives of

Kaila Sachse (20:23)
Thank

Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (20:44)
so many women, including myself. So I'm just, grateful for that. And that's a little bit about my story.

Kaila Sachse (20:50)
Yeah,

wow, what a journey, what a roller coaster. It's so interesting to hear how you developed that creativity. I would call it like a builder muscle or a creator muscle. That seemed to be your push, that seems to be your personality. You like to create things. That's what I think I get about you.

Brandie Nicole Adams (21:10)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kaila Sachse (21:14)
It's so interesting to hear how it sounds like your mom inspired that even though she had been working for somebody else. So I'm curious, do you think she has that same creator muscle too? Or what inspired you from her?

Brandie Nicole Adams (21:31)
Yeah, yeah, my mom definitely, she has a creative side to her. Now she might not be the best like artist or graphic designer or anything like that, but there is a creative side to her and she really knows how to use words. Like my mom is really good with her words and just really encouraging, lifting you up. And I think what I saw in her is because she was such a like strong,

Kaila Sachse (21:46)
Hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (21:59)
workhorse, like she worked, she had three jobs at one point. So I'm watching her as a little girl, like go through this. But at the same time, like I saw her gift of words sort of ⁓ diminish or become overrun by all the work that she had to do. Because at some point, you know, when I was, I think about nine or 10, she became a single mom when my parents separated. And so it was like what she was gifted with.

Kaila Sachse (22:03)
Wow.

Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (22:28)
that had to be put quote unquote on the back burner to care for me, for the house and to take on all these things. And so when I see this in my mom, it's like, see how beautiful she is. I see her creativity. I know she has this gift of words and encouragement, but I see her so bogged down by life and by what she's struggling with that that really pierced my heart. Like I wanted to be there for her. I kind of wanted to support her.

Kaila Sachse (22:56)
you

Brandie Nicole Adams (22:57)
And

when you're a child and you're starting to think like this, you're starting to think like an adult as a child, that's one of the negative things that has come through my bloodline as well. It's just children having to be adults. And from a place of just wanting to be an adult, like I'm grown up now, but I'm really wanting to help my mom. So part of that.

Kaila Sachse (23:02)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (23:24)
desire. I've always had this desire to help moms, like even when I was in a I've been in a small group for like 11 years now and they're all older than me. They're all mothers and you know, I talked to them about health. I talked to them about fitness. You know, we talk about the word and integrating scripture into your fitness life and making that really solidified and something that you can maintain for the long haul. I've just always had a heart for mothers because I know how hard it is because I watched my mom struggle.

Kaila Sachse (23:27)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (23:54)
I watched her

be diminished because of how hard she had to work. I watched her struggle. I watched her words, you know, become tough and hard. I watched her have to become mean in some cases to move forward in the world. And I don't want others to have to go through that, you know, because we all have different gifts.

Kaila Sachse (24:09)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (24:17)
mother especially, know, when they when they're raising children, they're giving gifts to their children, they're helping their children cultivate their gifts. And so if the mom is not healthy, if the mom is not operating in a way that is going to be conducive to her growth long term, how is that going to her children? And so

Kaila Sachse (24:25)
Yep.

Mm-hmm. Right.

Brandie Nicole Adams (24:40)
I talk to moms, I always say like, how is this impacting your children? And some of them, they don't even realize it. They're like, like, I haven't really thought about that.

Kaila Sachse (24:51)
Wow, so interesting. You know, if we go back into your story, you are a school-age girl. You are one of the only black girls at your school. So I imagine that is sending a message to you about your, maybe your self-worth. Can you take us through, for somebody who hasn't gone through that.

Brandie Nicole Adams (25:01)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kaila Sachse (25:15)
Can you take us through that just a little bit? was that like? What could have better supported you in that space, et cetera? Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (25:16)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, first of all, I think understanding the context of my home versus the school is very important because my home was very, ⁓ it was just kind of like, you know, the TV wasn't monitored, like, so I could kind of watch whatever I wanted. I was, I always had like a parent in the house with me when I was little, but it wasn't like they were necessarily watching me. Like I could be in the kitchen doing stuff. could, you know, I had kind of access to the whole house.

Kaila Sachse (25:30)
Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (25:51)
but I wasn't really being watched. Whereas at school, at this very strict Baptist school, was like, you can't be like with the opposite sex, it's like you can't have a certain closeness to the opposite sex. Like you have to wear, your shirt has to be so many fingers long, like it can't be lower than this. Or like your skirt has to be to the middle of your knee. You can only wear certain colors of nail polish. And so was like,

The school was very strict and my home was very much not. And so as a child, was very strange for me to like say, ⁓ we're going to go to the movies and watch the Lion King. But like, if anybody from school sees me at the movies, I'm going to get in trouble. So I was always kind of confused as to like, okay, God is at school, but God's not at home or like, is he at home? Is he mad at me when I'm at home? Is he?

Kaila Sachse (26:24)
Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (26:48)
Is he okay with me when I'm at school? So it was very like confusing just as a young girl trying to figure out like, okay, I know I'm saved. I asked God to come into my heart, but like, is he still with me when I'm doing bad stuff or watching Michael Jackson videos? It was one of those things where it was just very hard. You know, I'm dancing in front of the TV, you know, with Michael Jackson and it's like, ⁓ I have to go to school tomorrow. Could I not have done that? You know?

Kaila Sachse (26:53)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (27:16)
And so it was just hard and I wish that my mom would have given me like a clearer understanding about just God and working out your own salvation. And I feel like she tried to do that, which was how I ended up at that school is because she wanted me to have a really good understanding of who that is and how he's always with me. So she was instilling that in me. I just wish it were more ⁓ integrated into our home life.

and into how my parents were and explaining things to me of like, why aren't my parents getting along? Why aren't my parents married? Why don't we go to church? So it was very disconnected spirituality at home. wish it were more integrated to a point where my mom could say, okay, this is what they believe and this is why they say things like this at school. But when it comes to having a relationship with God and what that means,

It doesn't have to mean the exact same thing as what this denomination says it means. And the way to understand what's of God and what's an opinion of man is to read the word and understand the scripture. So I wish that there was more integration and more explanation as to why there was such a huge chasm between my home and in school. And that was eventually something that I had to work through kind of on my own with other believers who were struggling with similar things.

Kaila Sachse (28:20)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

I could see that being confusing because you're getting a very strong message at school and then at home you're almost getting no messaging or very little messaging and so you as a child have to put the pieces together yourself which can be very scary. When we're kids we crave structure, we crave stability and we want adults to step in and help guide us through life.

Brandie Nicole Adams (28:53)
Yeah.

Kaila Sachse (29:15)
And speaking from the parent's side, that can be scary. It can be very scary to know what to say to a kid. You don't wanna say the wrong thing. It's almost like we have this pressure on ourselves as parents to be quote unquote perfect and say things in a way that won't traumatize our kids forever. ⁓ But it is important to give ourselves grace as parents in understanding like, hey, we're...

We're almost guaranteed to mess up. It's just a fact of life. We're going to make mistakes. We are human. And maybe there's a value in that in in showing up, making the mistake and then showing up again and just saying, hey, I made the mistake because I'm human. And that's what adults do. We make mistakes and it's OK. We don't have to be this cookie cutter perfect.

Brandie Nicole Adams (30:01)
Yeah.

Yeah, that's so true. And that's what I talked about too, is like this balance between discipline and grace. Because as a parent, it's like, of course you have to have discipline as the leader as the parent, but you also have to give yourself grace as well. And as you're walking through this, know that you're not a robot, know that you're not supposed to be perfect. It's not possible to be perfect. And so keeping that

Kaila Sachse (30:09)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (30:31)
discipline and grace in balance, it can be very difficult. And I know that that's something that moms especially struggle with when, you know, their choices and how they're doing things will impact their children. It's really easy to shame yourself. It's really easy to talk negatively to yourself and just continue down on that spiral. But that balance of discipline and grace is so important. It's so important.

Kaila Sachse (30:47)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah. It sounds like we have to first recognize that we are speaking to ourselves negatively before we can say, hey, we actually have an issue here. Now we can take the first step in, in, in, in getting to health. Right? So first we identify our negative self-talk. We recognize it, we accept it. We say, this is actually what's happening. And then we can move forward. What

Brandie Nicole Adams (31:06)
Mm-hmm.

Kaila Sachse (31:18)
What does that or what can that negative self-talk sound like? I mean, for somebody who's been speaking it to themselves for all their life, how would you even know that that's negative and that's making an impact on you?

Brandie Nicole Adams (31:28)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, there's a level of ⁓ vulnerability that has to come out. And so if you're just talking to yourself negatively, but you're not actually sharing what your thoughts are with other people who are safe people, then nobody's going to know. So you have to have a level of vulnerability and a level of discernment to know who to share these things with. So a lot of times ⁓

when I talk to women who are, you know, just want to know what I do. And, you know, we hop on a strategy call together to see if, you know, it'd be a good fit to work together. I hear the negative self-talk come out and I hear, oh, I know I should be doing this and I haven't done it. I know it's so dumb to know what to do and then to not do it. It's like, whoa, like, where did that, where did that come from? It's like, or, or like, you know, I know I gained 20 pounds and you know, I'm just, I'm so fat right now and I hate looking at myself in my clothes. It's like, wow, that's

Kaila Sachse (32:13)
Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (32:23)
That's actually really an abrasive thing to say to yourself, like, yes, you might feel sad. There's an emotion behind that. You might feel sad about gaining weight, but then to actually do damage to your mind and your soul by saying these things about yourself. It's almost like it's okay to have the feeling of sadness, but then to act on that and actually do damage to yourself because of that feeling. That's what we have to break apart. It's okay to be sad.

Kaila Sachse (32:48)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (32:52)
But don't do

damage to your spirit. Don't do damage to your mind by reinforcing this negative idea about yourself, which isn't even true. And so a lot of times it's in those strategy calls. It's in those initial calls where I will actually point at what's being said. And I will say, do you hear what you just said? You just said you gained this weight and you know that you're dumb for gaining the weight and now you're unhappy with how you look.

Kaila Sachse (33:01)
Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (33:20)
And you just totally tore yourself apart. And I will ask them, I'll say, you hear yourself say that? And a lot of times they don't know how to respond. They're just like, ⁓ like I've just always thought that. And so it is a very, it is a very.

It's the emotional piece and this is the part of me that really feels bad for the moms who are struggling with this, because I know that when they say it fast like that, I know that that's something that's been stewing. That's something that's been marinating.

Kaila Sachse (35:16)
Okay, so it sounds like working with a professional to help find our blind spots, find where we're talking to ourselves negatively because we might not be able to see that ourselves. So working with somebody else, they can help spot it for us. ⁓ Would you say that's one of the major benefits of working with a professional or what are your thoughts?

Brandie Nicole Adams (35:40)
Yeah, I would definitely say that's a major benefit just because even a professional, mean, different people need different things. So whether it's a counselor, therapist, a coach, you know, even a close friend, it's really up to the person to want the help. And it's up to that person to be willing to be vulnerable in the areas that they need to be vulnerable in. And so similar to what I was saying previously in my own story where I would focus on a lot of things that were good, but weren't like

the most important thing.

the person who needs the help has to be willing to focus on the most important thing and to trust the professional to help walk them through that process that they need to walk through. So as long as the person is vulnerable, honest and willing to sort of submit to help from a professional, then I mean, you will you will see benefits as long as you're doing the work and maintaining that that vulnerability. I would say that, you know, it's absolutely necessary. Like I still have a counselor. I still work with different

Kaila Sachse (36:41)
Yeah.

Brandie Nicole Adams (36:41)
coaches at different times and so it is I would say it's absolutely necessary to get the help.

Kaila Sachse (36:47)
Yeah, I can see how we level up in different parts of our life and in our business. And in doing so now, like you said before, we're facing new problems, new challenges. And so maybe before we've worked with a professional and then we stopped because we we were able to to succeed or get to where we wanted to go. But now we've leveled up and now we're facing new challenges.

it's okay to reach out to a professional again. It's totally okay, we are constantly evolving beings, we're never going to be perfect. This topic of perfectionism comes up a lot, it's definitely something I've dealt with and I can see how it would affect parents, especially moms. So yeah, just giving ourselves grace and understanding, it's okay to need help, totally fine.

Brandie Nicole Adams (37:38)
Yeah.

Kaila Sachse (37:39)
What can be some red flags for us to know, oh wow, I am facing a struggle, I need help. How would that manifest in our bodies, maybe even our minds? What does that look like? What does that struggle look like?

Brandie Nicole Adams (37:54)
Yeah, and I think it's one of those things where it's like, when you know, you know. Like, we all have different tolerance levels that we can handle. ⁓ And so I think when you know, like when you're struggling getting up in the morning, when most of your thoughts are negative or overwhelmed, or when you have, especially when you have, this is something.

recently that's been coming up for me is when you have revenge bedtime procrastination, where it's like you're so busy in the day and then like at the end of the day, you just want to kind of veg out on your phone. And then it's like, you know, your quiet time, your rest time, your stretching time, it all kind of goes out the window because you're just kind of on your phone scrolling. when those kinds of things start to happen and come up in your life or when, you know, like first thing in the morning, it's like you wake up, you're miserable. You know, your body will tell you.

Kaila Sachse (38:35)
Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (38:46)
kind of what it's struggling with. And as long as you're able to not accept those things as the norm, but accept them as signs of a deeper need and a deeper issue needing to be rooted out and healed, as long as you're willing to identify that and then do the work with a professional, I mean, you will overcome that. But the important part is not to just lie down in complacency and say, this is just how things are, especially not, you know,

when you're raising up future generations, it's important to not set the standard for the future generation that this is just how things are. So I think your body will tell you, your mind, there will be red flags that will come up in your mind that will tell you, especially when things have gone a little too far for too long. Your body will tell you as long as you're in integrity with yourself to identify those things for sure.

Kaila Sachse (39:32)
Mm.

Yeah, what are some things that people tend to accept as normal that aren't? They're actually red flags.

Brandie Nicole Adams (39:47)
Yeah, that is a good question because this is actually, it comes up, I would say in almost every single session that I have with my clients is the personal care time.

I've worked with moms before where they're kind of like the Uber for their family. And I get that where they're constantly driving their kids to the different things. They're constantly, then you have to go to the store and you have to go here and then you have a nail appointment and you're doing all these different things. But it's like, if you don't have a set time to just sit and rest, be in the presence of the Lord, do stretching, sleep, take a nap. If you don't have a set self care time,

Kaila Sachse (40:27)
Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (40:28)
particularly

when it comes to bedtime, because usually women who are entrepreneurs, especially like we're burning all the way up until like bedtime and then we're in bed like answering emails, you know, so if you have a set time for yourself to truly decompress and to truly rest, that is probably the biggest issue that comes up because if your body does not have time to recalibrate and get the rest that it needs, then the next day that's going to carry into

Kaila Sachse (40:38)
Mm-hmm. Mmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (40:57)
the next day and then that anxiety is going to continue to build into the next day. And then that's going to cause you to do different things. That's going to cause you to, you know, maybe you'll skip your workout. Maybe you'll, you know, go through a drive-through. Maybe you'll binge on some chips. So it starts to divert into other areas because that one domino fell. Now other dominoes are going to fall. So self-care and really taking the time to regulate your nervous system. Again, whether that means, you know,

Kaila Sachse (41:15)
Mm-hmm.

you

Brandie Nicole Adams (41:26)
stretching, doing some red light therapy, going to bed early, whatever that means for you. If you don't regulate your body and let your body rest, then that's usually a major, major red flag. And it's choice. It is a choice when you say you don't have time, you have to make the time. And that's where the discipline part comes in. It's like not every day is going to be perfect, of course. That's where the grace comes in. But your normal

Kaila Sachse (41:44)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (41:53)
of operating should be to have a time of rest, a time of recovery, and a time to know where even when the day goes crazy, these are my non-negotiables that I'm gonna do for myself because I know this is what I need to stay healthy. So non-negotiables are like a foundational part of my coaching and it's what I challenge women on to define your non-negotiables and to make them achievable.

Kaila Sachse (42:19)
Are non-negotiables just across the board a set of things that we should be prioritizing? I hate the word should, but that I would say we really, I'll stick with should. I will stick with should because here's the deal. When we're not taking care of ourselves, it is going to affect our kids. It is going to affect our family. So yeah, I'm sticking with the should. are there, is there a set list of non-negotiables that should be across the board for all parents?

Brandie Nicole Adams (42:28)
you

Yes.

Kaila Sachse (42:47)
Or is it flexible per person? I mean, what did non-negotiables look like? How do you define those?

Brandie Nicole Adams (42:56)
Yeah, I would say that the categories are pretty, I would say the categories are pretty well defined across the board. I would say what goes into the buckets of each of those categories are different for each person. So it's under meals, movement, mindset. Those are kind of the three categories, meals, movement, mindset, and then what goes into those three buckets is going to be different for each person. So I know for me, for meals, there's a certain

number of grams of protein I have to hit every day. That's like a non-negotiable, regardless. I know for me, movement, I have a certain set of things that are non-negotiable for movement. Mindset, there's a certain number of things that are in there in that bucket. Now, those same categories apply to, you know, one of my clients who just finished my program. Her non-negotiables, they were still in those categories, but they were very different from mine because it was what worked for her body.

And when she stuck to those things, she was able to lose over 10 pounds because she stuck to those things in her buckets. And so that's the important thing to understand is that it's not like, I have to be keto or I have to be high carb, fat, or I have to run 10 miles a day. It's not that kind of non-negotiable, but it's within those categories. What is it?

that your body needs in order for you to be at the optimal level of health, even when your day kind of gets wild and crazy. And that takes time to figure out. And I think figuring out those things in that process, it can be very frustrating for women, especially as they're doing their day to day grind. It's like, now I got to figure out, you know, what works for me. And then that's when working with a professional and getting the help to do that process and work through that process. That's when that comes in. And those are just the non-negotiables. So this is like,

you know, hey, I'm traveling for vacation and then, you know, I have six basketball games I got to take my kids to right after that. It's like, okay, I get that. And so what are those baseline promises that you've made to yourself in each of those three categories? Let's make sure that we do those things while you're traveling.

Kaila Sachse (45:01)
That makes sense. Okay, so we have our three buckets, the meals, the movement and the mindset and what we choose to do the actual actions. That is something that we figure out. We could either figure it out on our own and take forever and get frustrated or we can hire a professional and get there more quickly. I mean, that's that's the honest truth. I mean, we can we can spin our gears.

Brandie Nicole Adams (45:21)
Yes. Yes.

Kaila Sachse (45:25)
trying to figure out all the things on top of parenthood, because that's so much, and on top of being an entrepreneur or self-employed, like that's a lot. So, and I have to speak to our DIY crowd because they like to do everything themselves, but there is a value in delegating and hiring out and building that team. I know for me, when I've...

Brandie Nicole Adams (45:33)
Yeah, it is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Kaila Sachse (45:53)
I've gotten to the point where I've grown so much as a freelancer. I don't know if many people know my story. I grew as a freelancer. Then I decided to turn that into an agency and hire a team because I just couldn't do everything myself. And I was hitting a, I was not only hitting a mental wall where I was just exhausted and working really, really long days. This was before I had my son, but I was also hitting a financial wall. I wasn't able to level up.

in that way either. ⁓ There were these different walls that I was hitting. And so when I was able to hire the team, whether it was ⁓ another graphic designer to help or a developer to help with some coding here and there, you know, all the little nitty gritty stuff. But also I hired a life coach. I got a business mentor. Those things helped me out too with my mental bucket and figuring out how that all functions. So yeah, there's definitely a value.

Brandie Nicole Adams (46:26)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm.

Kaila Sachse (46:52)
in hiring out y'all, especially my DIYers. Listen up, please. Please, please, please. You don't have to do it all yourself. And speaking to our moms specifically, we have a lot on our plate. And parents in general, we really do have a lot on our plate. And so it's really easy to fall into the trap of everything is a priority. now there's this new fire that just lit up, this new emergency. That's a priority now.

Brandie Nicole Adams (46:55)
Yes.

Mm.

Kaila Sachse (47:21)
So I like the way that you word non-negotiables and remembering that our non-negotiables help to fuel us as human beings, as parents, also as business leaders too, because we need our bodies and our minds to be well in order to do all the other things on our world, in our world. So I don't know. That's my little soapbox brandy. Is there...

Brandie Nicole Adams (47:26)
Mm.

Yeah.

Yeah, that is

true. That is so true.

Kaila Sachse (47:51)
You know, is

there anything that you'd like to add on, add onto that or anything that you would like listeners to know?

Brandie Nicole Adams (47:57)
Yeah, I just love that you brought up the DIY part, like as a former DIYer who like tried to have a full time job, tried to do everything on my own, tried to do everything for free. You know, it was all, it was all like on me to figure out and to do. And so when I really came out of that and like started this new place in my business where like, this is the point where I'm starting new. Like I had to invest in business coaches. Like I had to invest in like, Hey, how do I

really make this something that can be scalable. And just to what you were speaking to, you know, and I came from a design background too. That's what I went to school for, where it was like, you know, I had the blank canvas in front of me and I was responsible for kind of like creating this thing and I love to create. So it was like, I took that mindset, which is a good mindset to have, but I tried to apply that to kind of everything. Like I have to create, I have to build from the ground up, I have to do all these things.

Kaila Sachse (48:55)
Mm-hmm,

Brandie Nicole Adams (48:56)
And I see a lot

Kaila Sachse (48:57)
mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (48:58)
of moms who do that where they're like, this is all on me. Like, if it's going to get done right, I've got to do it. That kind of mindset. And it's like, no, no, that is the quickest way for your family to lose the best of you is when you are trying to DIY everything. And it takes a toll on you. It takes a toll on your family. It takes a toll on your future, your kid's future. Because God forbid you have a daughter who sees that.

Kaila Sachse (49:12)
Mm.

you

Mm-hmm.

Brandie Nicole Adams (49:26)
And they have that same mindset. Oh, I just got to, you I mean, you would hate that. And so that little girl inside of these moms, it's like, I want to bring that out of them and say, like, would you talk to your daughter like that? Would you say these things to your daughter? Like, why are you saying that to yourself? And a lot of times, they're kind of like, oh, okay, like I need a, you know, Romans 12, too, like I need to renew my mind, like I need to get it, get it right and start, you know, thinking about myself differently. And that's, that's a process too. And so

Kaila Sachse (49:31)
Mm-hmm.

Oof.

Mm-hmm. ⁓

Brandie Nicole Adams (49:56)
As much respect as I have for the DIY crew, like it does not, it's not sustainable long-term. And that's, that's what I'm about is I'm about things that are sustainably healthy long-term.

Kaila Sachse (50:07)
Yeah, ⁓ I didn't, ⁓ it's so true. The way that we speak to ourselves can translate to our children, whether we're aware of that or not. So that's definitely a pothole we can avoid. We have the power to avoid affecting our children and their self-talk with our own negative self-talk. Oof, what a powerful reason to...

Brandie Nicole Adams (50:16)
Mm.

Yeah.

Yes.

Kaila Sachse (50:35)
get well and take care of ourselves. ⁓ Brandie. Well, thank you so much for sharing all of your gems with us today. I don't know about you all listeners, but I am inspired to take care of myself more now, more than ever. Seriously, thank you. Where can people find you if they want to hire help or get inspired, go through your program, where can they find you?

Brandie Nicole Adams (50:38)
Yeah, yes, yeah, for sure.

Yeah, my website is revealed healing.com.

So I have all the information on there. There's a button to go ahead and schedule a free consultation call with me just to kind of talk through even what you're dealing with, whether you want to do the program or not. I really value women's stories. And so I would just love to hear, you know, what you're struggling with, what you need help with. So that's my website is revealed healing.com. And I'm very active on on Instagram. That's where I post just a lot of I have a lot of free resources on Instagram. A lot of reels, both funny and

serious as it relates to health, faith, and fitness. And on Instagram, I am at revealed healing coach.

Kaila Sachse (51:45)
Beautiful. Thank you so much for your time today, Brandie. We appreciate you.

Brandie Nicole Adams (51:50)
Thank you, Kaila. It's a blessing to be here.