Maya Lanfer on ACL Injury Prevention for Female Athletes

ACL injuries sideline thousands of young female athletes every year—but it doesn't have to be this way. In this episode, 17-year-old high school soccer player Maya Lanfer shares what she's learned from researching this injury, interviewing sports medicine professionals, and creating educational resources for coaches and players.

Maya breaks down why female athletes are more susceptible to ACL tears, what the research says about prevention, and the simple warm-up exercises that can significantly reduce risk. She also discusses the emotional toll these injuries take on young athletes and makes a compelling case for why coaches need to move beyond thinking of ACL injuries as "bad luck."

Whether you coach girls or boys, this conversation offers practical insights you can bring to your next practice.

Maya's Videos on YouTube

• Attention Female Athletes: How to Save Your ACL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhQVSvzjNrg
• HOW TO: ACL Injury Prevention Warm-up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za65nYmyr8Q

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Transcript

Maya Lanfer

There are studies that have said that as a female high school soccer player, you have a five percent chance of tearing your ACL every season of that high school sport So if you think about that, that's like a 20 percent chance for four years of high school and then if you have a 20 person team that's like at least a person every year tearing their ACL.

Coaches have to know that it's going to happen again and that they have a responsibility to be prepared and that there's things that they can do to be prepared.

Alf Gracombe

Welcome to CoachCraft. I'm Alf Gracombe. And today's episode is a bit different. My guest isn't a coach, she's a soccer player. Maya Lanfer is a 17 year old high school student athlete. And she's done something that caught my attention. She's researched ACL injuries in female athletes, interviewed sports medicine professionals and created educational videos that help coaches and players understand this issue and more importantly, do something about it.

She's done this from the perspective of a player, someone most at risk of sustaining this type of injury. Here's the reality. Female athletes are far more likely to suffer ACL injuries than male athletes. Why is that? Well, part of the problem is physiological, but part of it is also that youth sports development has historically been built around boys. The research, the training methods, the prevention protocols, so much of it has been designed with male athletes in mind.

But that's starting to change. In this conversation, Maya shares what she's learned, the stories behind her advocacy work and practical guidance that any coach working with young athletes, especially young women, can put into action right away. So here's my conversation with Maya Lanfer

Alf Gracombe

Maya Lanfer welcome to the Coach Craft podcast. It's great to have you here.

Maya Lanfer 

Thanks for having me.

Alf Gracombe 

Great. So Maya, we are going to talk today about ACL injuries, knee injuries for young female athletes and really looking forward to this conversation. Thank you for being on the show. I think there's a lot that is going to be very interesting to coaches who are coaching young female athletes. But before we get to any of that, if you can just tell the audience a little bit about who you are, your background, your journey through.

Soccer up to this point because I know you're still you're still in it, but Tell us just a little bit about yourself

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah, so my name is Maya. I'm 17. I'm currently a junior and in high school and I've been playing soccer probably since I was two or three. Started with my dad, did like JP Youth Soccer which is the neighborhood, neighborhood soccer teams that they do. Yeah, a lot. Well, then they know, yeah, I'm a product of them.

Alf Gracombe 

we talk about JP Youth Soccer on this podcast quite a bit,

Maya Lanfer 

I think I did that maybe starting in like three to fifth grade. Then I was in a club soccer team on their state team for one or two years. And then my family moved to Zambia for a year.

And that was like a very different soccer experience because I ended up skipping seventh grade so I could go to South Africa and play this like this like African wide tournament in South Africa. And so I got to do that. That was very fun. I played on an all boys team, like an all boys club team. So it was like 13 year old me and like a bunch of like 20 year old Zambian men.

Alf Gracombe 

Wow,

what an experience that must have been.

Maya Lanfer 

Just like, yeah. So

I did that. Then I came home. I continued clubbed soccer at Surf. And then I did that for about four years and then along with Boston Latin School varsity soccer as well. And then now I'm a dual sport athlete. So I'm doing soccer for my school. And then I'm also doing rowing, right?

Alf Gracombe 

Great. Yeah, and I've seen you play a lot, especially ⁓ just in recent years at Boston Latin School. My son plays there as well, played there as well. And I know you're a junior, rising senior. So you're coming up on really the end of your youth sports journey. Perhaps you'll play at the college level, but ⁓ one more year of youth soccer for you.

Maya Lanfer 

Yep, one more year of glory.

Alf Gracombe 

Well, congrats on your last season in the fall. And again, thanks again for being here today to talk about ACL injuries So let's get into that. have.

done some advocacy and quite a bit of research on this topic. And you've put together some videos on YouTube, which we'll talk about a little bit more later. But just if you can tell me first kind of what brought this issue to your attention and why have you done some of the work that you have done around this issue?

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah, so I started getting interested in, I think, sports medicine more like holistically when I did sort of like a capstone project at the Neighborhood School But I did mine on female sports medicine specifically. And so from that, I just learned a lot about

the research that was out there, the discrepancies and lack of research that is out there on female sports medicine. I think at the time it was like 3 % of research was done on women in all sports medicine. was like, this is crazy. So I really got into...

these ideas of sports medicine through that project. And I did some of my own research at that time too. was in three different teams at the time. And so I got all these teams of girls to do all these running and flexibility tests. And then we recorded it and we compared it to where they were on their hormone cycles to test how

different hormones and different levels of hormones affects performance. So that's sort of how I got into it a little bit more.

So then I started playing in high school, ⁓ and I got more interested in ACL injuries. and that was because they were, they were really just like all around me. Like I had one week and it was like high school fall season and I knew three people who tore their ACL in one week. And I was like, this is insane.

Alf Gracombe 

Yeah, and are the high school ages typically

when players start to experience this more or you see this more frequently in the game?

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah,

I think it is when you see it more because of the competition level is higher and especially in high school we're playing

like many, many games in a short period of time. So there's just less turnover and I think it leads to more injuries. But it's also a time like as a young athlete, you're more susceptible before your body has fully developed to get these kinds of injuries. So it's sort of a combination of the two factors.

Alf Gracombe 

And so you went on to make these two videos. They're available on YouTube. We can put the links in the show notes, but tell us a little bit about these videos and what prompted you to make them.

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah, my mom and I were just sort of disturbed by the whole issue of ACL and concerned about...

me tearing my ACL as many people had around me. so we found this study that was published by the British Medical Journal, but it was a Swedish study that was done specifically on young female soccer players that are between the ages of 12 and 17. So like exactly my demographic.

And they had a sample size that had over 200 clubs, over 4500 athletes. And so they tested like the effectiveness of five different, of the five different part warmup. And they did it twice a week.

And they showed that just by adding these few different steps, they could prevent like 64 to 83 % of ACL injuries just by doing it twice a week. And so, which was great. And I was like, this is amazing. Like, why isn't everybody else doing it? But the problem with that study is that it was published specifically for the scientific community. So it was sort of, you'd sort of have to dive into it to really find out like what the players are actually doing.

Like how much and so I decided to start creating videos to sort of try to make it To put it on a more like accessible platform that coaches and players could access

Alf Gracombe 

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

And what kind of response have you

gotten from the videos?

Maya Lanfer 

⁓ I think I think my next steps are really trying to focus on getting out the videos more. ⁓ but I can definitely say Personally, I've tried I've gotten a couple of teams that i'm involved in to start to implement the warm-ups and I think like All the players have been very Receptive to it. They're very like excited about doing it. Everybody's motivated to do it and

you know, sometimes when you're asking teenagers to do like extra work, there's, you know, some drag in your feet, but like people know it's a problem. so I think everybody's been really game to do it, which is great to see. But I think now it's about like getting it past things that I'm like personally connected and can personally be like, no, it's the ACL day. Like, yeah.

Alf Gracombe 

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Well, so yeah, the two videos and one is, I'd say it's informative about the injury, right? You cite research, you even interview some.

some folks from the medical community, sports science. So that's the informative video about the injury itself and kind of this, I don't know, you can call it an epidemic. I think it certainly it is in many senses of the word. And then the second video, the exercises that you demonstrate in the video that help prevent the injury. So let's take each of those a little bit one at a time.

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah.

and then.

Alf Gracombe 

So the first one, the informational about the injury. How did you put that together? Who did you talk to and talk a little bit about some of the stories in that video?

Maya Lanfer 

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, so I started doing that video two summers ago and I got most of the like content in in that one summer. I think I started by interviewing coaches. I started by interviewing a coach from my club team and so I talked a bit with her about like

what would be the it factor to being like, she was like, yeah, like a lot of.

a lot of studies that cross our desk, a lot of things that we're like, yeah, this would be great to do to improve performance, prevent injury, knowing that this is the one, is the factor that's difficult. So then I was like, I can't be the hip factor, I'm a high school student, my word is not the best. So I started reaching out to different doctors, sports medicine professionals,

in the area who had expertise in the issue. And I was, I had a lot of trouble getting hold of these people because I didn't really have any pathways to them. So I was in an internship at the time and I would be calling these numbers that I found online.

in the bathroom of like this internship, just like trying to reach out. And I ended up like going to Boston Children's Hospital, talking to like maybe six secretaries there. And then through that and just like cold calling people, I was able to interview.

a sports medicine professional from Boston Children's Hospital and then the Harvard head team physician as well. And so they were able to talk to me about like the issues of the injury, why it is more likely to occur in female athletes by far, and then also about how like you can do these certain things, strengthening, working on balance.

to really prevent the injury as a whole.

You definitely learn a lot about the different kinds of factors that make female athletes more susceptible to ACL injuries. So they talked about things like there's something called a Q-angle in your hip. And so because women on average have wider pelvic bones, it creates a sharper angle with your hip and your leg. And so that puts actually

pressure on the knee. So that's one reason that they raised why female athletes are more susceptible to injury.

Alf Gracombe 

And ACL injuries, are typically

stress and strain related injuries or a combination of that plus an incident of maybe contact or, you know, bending it. Like how does the injury actually happen?

Maya Lanfer 

I think

they're usually happening in the moment. I don't have the exact numbers, but I think there might be, I think less of them happen in direct contact than you think, but they're usually like, it's not sort of like a wearing over time or like you could tell that you're like on the cusp. But,

on average when they happen. Yeah, exactly. So it's like jumping, turning and jumping and turning are the main things that are like the sharp twist. Yeah. Exactly. And that's so that's why it also happens in other sports like basketball and lacrosse or jumping and turning also occurs.

Alf Gracombe 

But it could be just like a movement during a game that a player, yeah.

things that happen throughout the soccer game all the time for players, yeah.

Yeah,

so players are more susceptible to this injury in these sports where there's a lot of change of direction, a lot of jumping, landing. ⁓

Maya Lanfer 

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Alf Gracombe 

And so I know you interviewed some other players in that video. ⁓ And there's a, I think some high school players talk a little bit about those stories. There's the physical injury itself, which is terrible. And then just, you know, how long are players out? What's the recovery time like? And then

Maya Lanfer 

Mm-hmm.

Alf Gracombe 

also the emotional side of this injury and what that means to a player psychologically and emotionally.

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah,

so that was a big part of the first video ⁓ as well. And so in that video, I used the story of an athlete, Nicole Proya, who was she's a senior right now at

Natick High School, which is a very, very competitive soccer team. And so her story was that she tore her ACL in the championship game two years ago of the Massachusetts High School Tournament. And she is just an incredible athlete. And so I wanted to use her story a little bit to just like show how good she was and how far she was able

to go with a sport but also how quickly that was. Yeah, exactly. And so I was able to interview her. I was also, you know, there were people on my own team as well. There have been people. This year, most recently, I had a close friend who tore her ACL.

Alf Gracombe 

And even the best athletes are susceptible to this injury.

Maya Lanfer 

And I think there's like a couple different stages when you tear your ACL. There's you first go, you first tear it and for the most part you don't know if you've torn it yet. So there's like this scary time when you have a player that's been taken off the field and you're like, it's their knee and we don't know what it is, but you have to figure out. And then

Alf Gracombe 

Mm-hmm.

Maya Lanfer 

They go to the doctor and then if they've torn their ACL, they have to schedule surgery, which is usually a couple weeks later. And then you have surgery. My friend Elle was out for a week and a half following that surgery. And then...

She was on crutches for maybe a month and a half following the surgery and then on crutches, of course, before the surgery as well. So it's a lot of time off from school, which is hard, but that's sort of short term. But I think also...

Alf Gracombe 

Mm-hmm.

Maya Lanfer 

In the long term, it's a nine month recovery process before you're back on the field. And for a lot of players, like my friends, like myself, soccer is like a big part of my community. It's a big part of like who I am and.

Alf Gracombe 

Mm-hmm.

Maya Lanfer 

Like it's a big part of how I spend my time and how I find joy in my day. so just thinking of that nine months is like a big part of your life is taken away. And so that's sort of where I see the difficulty overall.

Alf Gracombe 

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, if you're thinking about the high school soccer journey, let's say it's a four year journey, right? And you're

practically out for you know, almost a year almost like well, let's just say 20 % of your high school experience you're out just recovering from this injury and Unable to play the game, know that you love and as you said it's such a big part of your your life your identity You know your your relationships and it's not like you can't be on the field with your team But like you're not able to play right you have to be on the sidelines and your role is is changed You know in an instant you're not able to contribute the way you're used to

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah.

Yeah.

you

Alf Gracombe 

Great, and then, Maya, the second video, tell us about that. What are you doing in that video?

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah, so the second video is a lot more like baseline just how to do this warm up, how you can set it up, and really just what each of the things are. They're not very complicated, but so it's just a short video showing people like legit how they can do the warm up and put it in their practice.

Alf Gracombe 

And how long does it take to do this warm up typically and how often should players be doing it?

Maya Lanfer 

So the warm up is split up into five different exercises and how we do it with my team is that we incorporate it into our daily like line warm up. Many teams do like a back and forth sort of open the gate line warm up.

But then after we've done all of those like game preparedness, practice preparedness sort of exercises, we'll do the five different warmups and we try to do...

10 reps of it on the way down the line and 10 reps on the way back just to have consistency. But the first warm up we do is a squat. Second warm up is a lunge. The third is a pistol squat, which if you're starting it out, I recommend not going very low because we did that with our team and everybody came to me the next day and they were like, why I like...

Alf Gracombe 

You've...

Maya Lanfer 

tweak my quad,

I can't do it, so start easy with that one. But you know, it'll take a week and you'll get into it. And then second to last one is a hop forward, a large hop forward on one leg. And then a one legged hop a little bit back. And then you just do that 10 times there, switch legs 10 times way back.

Alf Gracombe 

Yeah.

Maya Lanfer 

And then the final one is a plank, which you really only have to do for 30 seconds at full tension. We do a minute to try to get abs, but that's up to

Alf Gracombe 

Yeah.

And then, have you then, brought these exercises, these warmups into your, into the teams that you play on? Is this something that are you leading on this or something you're working with the coach on? How does that, what does that look like?

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah, So

I brought it to my coaches. They were like, yes, do it, lead whatever you want. And then for school, we have captains lead warmups. So that was just like. I taught them how to do it and then they could take it away. And you know, it's five exercises. It's not like.

It's not like a lot of additions, so it's pretty easy to replicate with different teams. And then we do it twice a week. We don't do it on game days because it's more of like strengthening and things like that. So it's not necessarily needed for game preparation, but you only need to do it twice a week.

Alf Gracombe 

And your recommendation to players is you should be doing these all the time, whether you play year round or maybe you just play in the fall season, the spring season. But these are exercises that you should be doing all the time to build strength, build flexibility.

Maya Lanfer 

I mean, yeah,

I mean, it would be great if they were doing it all the time for sure. I know some athletes, like for example, I'm a dual sport athlete, so I'm crew and we're doing like, you know, we have planks and we're lifting as well. So there's things like that that that would make it like you might not need it for certain sports, but I think it would be great to do it year round for sure.

Alf Gracombe 

Maya, what are the things that you think every coach of young female athletes needs to know about this injury and prevention of it?

Maya Lanfer 

So I think that there's an orientation around some injuries that players get and it's like, no, like that was so unlucky, like why did that happen to us?

And I think sometimes there's an orientation about ACL injuries like that as well, like, that is such bad luck. And in some ways it is. But when you're thinking about this injury for female athletes, it's like, it's not just bad luck. it's a statistical like probability that it's going to happen this year, that it's going to happen next year. And that's going to happen the year after that. Because if we look at, There are studies that have said that as a female,

Alf Gracombe 

Mm-hmm.

Maya Lanfer 

high school soccer player, you have a five percent chance of tearing your ACL every like season of that high school sport and that's like not even considering club sports or club soccer as well. So if you think about that, that's like a 20 percent chance for four years of high school and then if you have a 20 person team that's like that's like at least a person every year tearing their ACL. And so I think

Alf Gracombe 

Yeah.

Maya Lanfer 

Coaches have to know that

it's going to happen again and that they have a responsibility to be prepared and that there's things that they can do to be prepared. Like this warm up and it's going to allow them to protect their players. It's going to better their teams for four months. Even if like, like clubs I find are very money motivated at some times. And so like, even if it's just like, you know, if, they tailor ACL or

not

playing their club do's either so it's like there's there's a lot of reasons why implementing this warm-up is going to benefit Holistic.

Alf Gracombe 

Yeah.

And as

a player, are there any things that can like might tip you off to your, you know, susceptibility, like overuse, you know, is there anything players might even like feel prior to the injury? Is there any research around that or is it just kind of comes out of nowhere for players?

Maya Lanfer 

I think a lot of times it does come out of nowhere. think, I mean, if you're not doing warmups like this, you're obviously going to be more susceptible. The only thing is sometimes if you do tear your ACL once,

At times that means that your susceptibility for tearing it again is raised but actually in the other leg and so and that's because sometimes when athletes tear their ACL in one leg all of their like recovery process is like focused around that one leg so then you're neglecting the other one a little bit and you haven't built up the same like muscles or balance in that leg.

Alf Gracombe 

Mm-hmm. ⁓

Interesting.

Maya Lanfer 

But I do

think that overall it's not like you could pick people out of a lineup and be like, you're more susceptible or you're like on the brink of it.

Alf Gracombe 

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Great, Maya, two more questions. First one, what would you like to see more of in youth soccer or youth sports more broadly to improve the situation for young female athletes?

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah, so I think more broadly, while there is limited research on female athletes, I think there definitely is valuable research that coaches should be aware of. And so I think broader education about what it means to be a female athlete should like...

People should be aware of it, more educated, especially considering ACL injuries because there's things you can do that are keeping these kids off surgical tables and there's like their concrete and they're quick and they work, yeah. And so I think greater understanding of that and...

Alf Gracombe 

And they work, right?

Maya Lanfer 

more willingness to implement it but also use your own time and practice time to invest in these injury prevention things. Because I've seen some clubs, I was in a club where they sent us like an app and was like do this and your free time but kids like me personally I don't have a lot of free time like out of practice like it's already a big deal to be driving far and going to

Alf Gracombe 

Mm-hmm.

Maya Lanfer 

practice every day and so I think it's important that coaches are seeing things through like personally for things. Yes.

Alf Gracombe 

Mm-hmm. And are dedicating practice time to it, right? They're investing

the time that the team has together on the pitch during training. That's important.

Maya Lanfer 

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

And I would also say...

quickly that this is a little bit more broad, I think that coaches should make sure that they are allowing space for youth to be dual-sport athletes or multi-sport athletes, ⁓ and the fact that specialization is really not good for youth athletes in general, as it can increase

Alf Gracombe 

Hmm.

Maya Lanfer 

⁓ injuries from like overusing very specific muscles which can hinder bone development and can hurt overall athletic development for young athletes. So I think encouraging doing sports and a wide variety of sports I think is really beneficial for young athletes.

Alf Gracombe 

I will 100 % get behind that. Even, mean, certainly through the lens of injury prevention to the point you just made, specialization in one sport, you're going to be training your body to really support movement, strength, agility, flexibility, et cetera, around that one sport. And...

your body won't be used to doing more types of activities and that's something that multiple sports can give you. That's just one benefit and that's just through the injury prevention lens. There's a million other benefits to playing other sports as well, transferable skills from one sport into another.

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah.

Alf Gracombe 

You've played soccer more than any other sport. You know, I love soccer, but at the same time, absolutely encourage kids to play more than one sport. Don't specialize too too soon because it does make you more susceptible to these injuries for sure. And then the one thing I'll just add, I've done a little bit of reading to the.

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah.

Alf Gracombe 

female side of the game and you know, girls in a relative sense have been playing soccer for a shorter period of time for reasons in society and they're systemic. But it's also meant that like our understanding of the game and youth development, like there's a lot more years of...

boys playing sports or soccer specifically here.

Girls are different in a broad sense, right? And then boys and vice versa. So, it's been interesting and I'll just mention it, Emma Hayes, the national team, women's national team coach for the U S now she's come up, come into the program and she's really looking to what she calls the, Women's National Team Way. And it's orienting kind of from the ground up the sports experience for young female athletes. And yes, there's a lot to borrow.

and learn from what the male side of the game has been doing over the years, but there's also a lot of differences. Some of them are cultural or physiological, some are emotional, some are just different. And the game hasn't really developed specifically for girls in that way. And so that's a very positive development, I believe, in youth sport. And it'll be interesting to see how that plays out, particularly with her leadership here on the US Women's National Team.

side. So that's another piece of this. I would encourage people to check out the work that Emma Hayes is doing with the US soccer program. Great. Maya, last thing. If someone wants to learn more about this topic, what would you recommend to them?

Maya Lanfer 

Yeah, so I would recommend.

definitely take a look at some of my videos if you're interested in anything I've just said or you're interested in implementing the warm-ups we've talked about, sending it to somebody who you know that plays soccer. And within those videos, you can also look at the British Medical Journal study that these warm-ups are taken from if you're interested in more of scientific side.

I would definitely recommend taking a second look at the FIFA 11 as well because I think it's also a great program that's been highly studied ⁓ but I think many coaches are under the impression that they are doing the FIFA 11 when they're

actually missing the majority of some key elements that are in the FIFA 11 because it's a very comprehensive warm-up but it's got a lot of parts, it's got a lot of plyometrics.

sort of things that I feel like sometimes are overlooked. So I think it would be great to do the FIFA 11 but just know what you're actually doing and I would take a second look at the things that FIFA has given out for that warm-up.

Alf Gracombe 

Yeah, and coaches, you don't have to reinvent the wheel here. Like there's a lot of great material out there. Just learn it and implement it with your teams. And that will make a difference for your players. And I would also say these are not exercises that are just for girls to do. I would encourage young male athletes to do as well. Of course, that's an injury that can happen to any player, not just to female players.

though female players are more susceptible. But yeah, check out Maya's videos. They are excellent. That's how I learned a lot about this topic. so Maya, I just want to congratulate you, but really thank you for the work you did in putting those together because they are definitely impactful. And this is such an important issue. So I just appreciate getting to have this conversation with you and learning more about these injuries and most importantly, sharing this with a broader community.

Maya Lanfer 

Thank you so much for having me. Have a great one.

Alf Gracombe 

Great. Well, enjoy the

rest of your day and enjoy your crew season coming up. I you'll be playing soccer as well, but just to make another plug for playing multiple sports for kids. then in the fall at the end of this year will be your senior year with BLS Soccer. So I look forward to seeing you out on the field.

Maya Lanfer 

thank you.

Yeah.

Thanks, I'm looking forward to it.

Alf Gracombe 

All right. Thanks, my appreciate your time.

Maya Lanfer 

Thank you.

Alf Gracombe 

That was Maya Lanfer, a high school junior who's doing the work to educate coaches and players about ACL injury prevention. A few things stand out to me from this conversation. First, Maya's point that we need to stop thinking of ACL injuries as bad luck. For female athletes, this isn't a freak occurrence. It's a statistical likelihood. And that means it's something we can prepare for and in many cases prevent. Second, a big part of the solution isn't complicated.

A handful of exercises done twice a week built into your regular warm-up routine, and that's it. The research is there. The tools are there. It's just a matter of putting them into practice. And third, I really appreciate Maya's broader point about multi-sport participation. Specialization puts young athletes at greater risk. Encouraging kids to play different sports isn't just good for their development, it's good for their bodies.

And if you coach young athletes, especially young women, I'd encourage you to check out Maya's videos. We'll link to them in the show notes along with resources on the FIFA 11 Plus program. If this episode was useful to you, share it with a coach or a parent who might benefit from it. And as always, thanks for tuning in to the CoachCraft Podcast. Until next time.