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Lets Talk About It
At "Let's Talk About It," we invite guests who are change agents and heroes from our community to share their lived experiences and reflect on the milestone moments that have either propelled or diverted them. What sets us apart? We anchor our conversations in two foundational pillars of the Black community: books and music. Through this unique lens, we capture, entertain, and inform our audience, creating a rich tapestry of stories and insights that resonate and inspire.
Lets Talk About It
From Adversity to Achievement Inspiring Stories
Imagine transforming adversity into a pioneering HR success story—Procure Talent Management Group did just that. Join us on "Let's Talk About It," where Shatema and I, TJ, celebrate the spirit of Black excellence in HR and entrepreneurship. We're joined by a distinguished guest, the Chief HR Officer of the Arizona Cardinals and President of the National Society of Black Sports Professionals, who recently earned the Power 50 Under 40 Award from the US Black Chamber. Together, we explore how PTMG turned the underestimated role of HR into a powerhouse of innovation, offering strategic solutions to bridge the gap between vendor and headcount budgets.
This episode is packed with personal tales of resilience and growth. From my unexpected career launch at Kohl's to navigating complex challenges at Walmart, including disaster management and tech overhauls, the journey is as insightful as it is inspiring. We delve into the motivational role of music, from Yolanda Adams’ gospel to the beats of UGK, which has been a steadfast companion through life's trials. We also express heartfelt gratitude for the incredible community support at our recent gala event, held at the culturally significant Carver Museum, highlighting Black excellence in sports. Join us for these compelling discussions, and gain fresh insights into the power of resilience and innovation within the Black community.
Welcome to let's Talk About it, the podcast where we shine a light on the change agents and everyday heroes who shape our communities. Here we dive deep into the lived experiences of our guests, exploring the milestone moments that have either propelled them forward or changed their paths moments that have either propelled them forward or changed their paths. We anchor every conversation in two foundational pillars of the Black community books and music. Through this unique lens, we capture, entertain and inform, weaving a rich tapestry of stories and insights that resonate, inspire and spark meaningful dialogue. Join our host, tj, tj Lowry and Shatima Grisham as they engage with thought leaders and community change agents to uncover the rich tapestry of experiences that shape our lives. Get ready for insightful discussions, unfiltered perspectives and the celebration of Black excellence let's talk about it. Excellence let's talk about it.
Speaker 2:Hey everyone, welcome to let's Talk About it, the podcast. I'm your girl, TJ, here, and I'm so excited to dive into today's show. We're bringing you one of the prominent HR professionals in the Valley and we're so excited to catch up with them. Before we do that, I need to introduce my prominent host, shatima. How you doing let's talk about it girl? Hey there, how's it going? It's going, it's going. You've been hanging in there, I've been hanging in there. What about you? Pretty good, pretty good. Tell me how PTMG is doing during this time.
Speaker 3:and what are some of your clients looking like? Yeah, so we are. We're doing really well. The company's thriving. So Procure Talent Management Group is an HR consulting firm that specializes in talent management, so it essentially is just the strategy of how you attract, hire, develop and retain your talent, your human capital hire, develop and retain your talent, your human capital. You know the market is marketing.
Speaker 3:So we definitely have felt the impact of that, but we are thriving. Our client base is, you know, really diverse, so we have a few. You know, recruitment is always, you know, it's always going to be the bread and butter direct placement, temporary support, things like that. So, really just working on our global talents, I have a new strategy in place to be a provider of global talents. I'm excited about that Good.
Speaker 2:And your reach.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure there's still. You know, a lot of companies are going overseas, but there's also talent that wants to come here, and so having some of that duality of offering resources for that has been really good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now I feel like you have a really cool or inspiring origin story for PTMG, also born out of the pandemic. How did that come about?
Speaker 3:I had a really bad day at work. So I had a really bad day at work one Friday and was just really frustrated. You know HR sometimes is a thankless job, especially when you are supporting. You know large entrepreneur-based companies where they don't really understand the real impact of you know large entrepreneur-based companies where they don't really understand the real impact of you know what HR can do for the company, and I was looking for additional headcount, but because we don't make any money, they never want to give you the headcount, and you know our results were.
Speaker 3:I needed support, I needed help. What they would give me, though, was temporary support. Can't give you a head count, but you need someone for 90 days, you need somebody for six months. Tell me how long you need someone. I can bring someone in to help you, and so you know. The business was kind of built on that of providing that support that HR professionals need in a temporary status and or permanent if needed, because I found, in growing up in HR, that vendor, the vendor budget, is different than the headcount budget and it's usually a little more robust.
Speaker 3:So we would, you know, pay for third parties to come in and pay them thousands of dollars, but I couldn't get a head count you know, yeah, part of that I see.
Speaker 2:They can, you know, take the salary for a short period of time on the expense report, right, but they don't see the value in what the people and providing the long-term resource does to the bottom line is the non-tangible. So it is so hard for us as HR professionals to, you know, make that case and explain that to them. It needs to be a short-term hit to the P&L and move on, get what you need. And so we're stretched and extended beyond what we can do and the ask just keeps growing, right, and we need this and this is necessary. And so when you say, well, we need a recruiter for that to be quicker, there is no expenditure for that, we're not going to invest in that.
Speaker 2:So to you, the bad day, you know, lead into success at PTMG and I feel like that's inspiring, even though it came out of a bad day. You know, lead into success at PTMG and I feel like that's inspiring, even though it came out of a bad day, I feel like your story definitely has inspired me, and you know the team at BHRS, and so we always are proud of you. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Entrepreneurship is tough in these streets, but rewarding yes for sure. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Let's dive into our show and thank you for sharing that and being vulnerable with our audience. Who are you introducing us to today?
Speaker 3:throw down a little bit on your background. So this is the chief HR officer at the Arizona Cardinals. He's also the president of BSP, which is the National Society of Black Sports Professionals. He's also a member of Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity and just recently got awarded as recent as a few weeks ago the Power 50 Under 40 Award for the US Black Chamber right. So he's an Arizona resident of the last three years by way of Arkansas, originally from Houston.
Speaker 2:Did I get that right Okay so welcome Thank you Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2:Such a nice bio and it's exciting especially for us, you know to see a black man here in Arizona. So, ladies, they are out there. I know we keep hearing that, but they exist. We're excited to have you on the show, sean. We're going to do an icebreaker. We're HR professionals, we call this, let's talk about it. So we're going to ask you a question, just give us the first answer that comes to mind, okay. All right. Favorite hip-hop artist.
Speaker 4:Favorite hip-hop artist? That's a good one. I don't know about favorite, I'll say current favorite.
Speaker 1:How about that I?
Speaker 4:like that. I don't know. I've been playing a lot of Drake lately.
Speaker 3:All right. Alright, I didn't know we still listened to Drake. Yeah, why you think he?
Speaker 1:got canceled because of the tender.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I guess that's what I heard.
Speaker 4:Okay, I still like Drake, so he's still alright with me.
Speaker 3:Alright Favorite hip-hop music video.
Speaker 4:Video. Oh, that's a good one, you know. What came to mind immediately is Big Pimpin' Jay-Z and Pimp c. Yes, now I'm gonna tell the story. I don't remember the name of the song. I need to go look the song up. But when I was on the campus of tsu so that's where I went they actually were recording a video there with ti and pimp c. Okay, uh, and so like, if I knew the name of that one, I would put that at the top of the list because I was in the mix.
Speaker 3:I was in the mix.
Speaker 4:But Pimp C looks like he's winning out.
Speaker 2:Best R&B album of all time.
Speaker 4:Of all time. I'm a big Usher fan, so I would probably go Usher Confessions or something like that. That's probably where I'm going to go with the R&B.
Speaker 2:Did you see him in Vegas?
Speaker 4:I did see the residency. I did too. Yeah, it was great I was. Did you see him in Vegas?
Speaker 3:I did see the residency, I didn't know, yeah, it was great. I did too. It was great. I was about ready to risk it. All I did.
Speaker 2:I was on stage in the beginning I ran up. I was one of the ladies, so I had a good time. You had a good time, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm a big Dutch fan. He's here in. I think it's on the new album a little more yeah.
Speaker 3:I think, so Residency was great though. Yeah, it was great. Awesome A pop song that always gets you dancing.
Speaker 4:A pop song that gets me dancing. I don't know, that's a good one, a pop song that gets me dancing. I don't know. I would probably go Party in the USA, or something like that yeah, yeah that's where I'd probably go, so yeah yeah, yeah what was your first concert? First concert, that's a good one. Oh, let me think back now. Uh, first concert, I want to say my first concert was actually on the campus of TSU and it was a bunch of, like, local artists. So if people are familiar with Houston, you go.
Speaker 3:Lil' Kiki and Lil' Flip, and that was like my first like that was like my first concert. Tsu was poppin'. What's going on down there? Hbcu, HBCU. Yeah. What about the most underrated artists in your opinion?
Speaker 4:Underrated artists. That's a good one. There's a guy that I like named Russ, that he's a rapper kind of singer tone. He puts out some good hits that I think just haven't made it mainstream but I would go with Russ. Well, send it to us so we can check Russ out.
Speaker 2:What CD is in rotation CD?
Speaker 4:We don't need to say that right now, but what's?
Speaker 2:heavier on the playlist. I think we call it playlist and yet streaming heavy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, let's see. Well, it's probably streaming heavy for me right now. It's actually well, spotify was in my Spotify list. Right now I've got this I don't know, I think it's like. I think the title of it is something like Black Uptempo Gospel. It's what's going on right now. That's probably getting a lot of play. Aside from that, I go back to Usher, the Weeknd, like those are typically. There's some Drake like Drake's CDs and stuff are on Spotify pretty much.
Speaker 3:Is that Black Hip Hop Gospel Does?
Speaker 2:it got like r&b hip-hop flair in it.
Speaker 4:It does yeah like it's got me what was in the rotation and it's a lot, it's a lot of uh. I think the artist is uh, hubby and like lecrae, uh, and so it's got a lot of that and it's got a lot of that in there. Then it's bringing out some old school. They'll put some Kirk Franklin stomp in there. It's just upbeat. I like that. I need that for cleaning on the floor, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's been in there a little bit, all right, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then let me ask one more what's your favorite genre of music?
Speaker 4:Genre of music, I mean definitely R&B. I'm yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So when did you first fall in love with R&B and speak to that in terms of how you got into this career.
Speaker 4:Oh gotcha, first fall in love. Fell in love with R&B. It probably comes back from my childhood. My mom, like I remember, back in the day, talk about cleaning, right. I remember my mama throwing on some Isley Brothers and it was, you know, when the songs came on. Ok, it's time to like Saturday morning.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's like time to clean up, right, so like I, think that's where, like I probably said, that's probably where it uh, where it came from. And then in terms of, uh, you know, transitioning into this career, um, you know, and I never set out to be an HR right, like probably so many of us, like I don't, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I can go to school. I wanted to be this HR professional, but I ended up really being thrown into an HR role. I was in Houston at the time, prior to what I do now is all retail, and so I was working at Kohl's department stores and got a random call from our district manager at the time and said hey, our HR manager, slash operations, dual job operations in HR, quit, and you're going to go be the new HR operations manager for this new building that we're opening out in League City. So go do it. And you got to go hire 200 people to open this store. And so that was my introduction into HR.
Speaker 2:I love that, so that would be the intro to your song your HR career right, like thrown in it or something, yeah. And so now we're in the song after those first few bars, those first 60 bars. When did the beat drop in your career, In life? This would be the moment you started to see your career really take off. When did the beat drop?
Speaker 4:When did the beat drop. I would say definitely this move I ended up making to Walmart in the sense of moving to the corporate office. So I talked about the Kohl's experience there. I pretty much stayed. Kohl's went to a couple of the different retailers, but we're all in the field and I got an opportunity in. You know, it gets everything dumped on it that nobody else wants to do.
Speaker 4:But it was there in that job and had an amazing boss that really supported me, started to open a lot of doors for me in terms of my career, and so I spent the next, you know, four or five years there at Walmart, pretty much changing jobs and getting promoted every 12 months from that point on, and so that beat dropping was really the move to Arkansas that put me in a position that had this plethora of just other opportunities that existed, because if I stayed in a field like there's only one HR job in the field, like there's nowhere else to really go, and so that's what I would, that's what I'd go with.
Speaker 2:Love that, all that exposure. All that exposure In Arkansas Probably would have never thought oh, I want to move to Arkansas.
Speaker 4:Never on my list. It was never on my list.
Speaker 3:Alright, so we talked about the beat drop and let's talk about the verse. The verse is the part of the song that's used to advance the plot. Um, the verse makes up the majority of the sound and often tells those complex stories. Um, what is the verse on your personal soundtrack? You know, share maybe the most difficult career challenges or how you navigated those yeah, difficult career challenges.
Speaker 4:I give a couple right. Um going back, this is my, my time at Walmart, one of the most, one of the most.
Speaker 3:I saw a lot at.
Speaker 4:Walmart.
Speaker 2:I saw a lot at Walmart.
Speaker 4:There's two things that I give there that I talk about One. I talk about that project manager job being the hodgepodge of like everything nobody else wanted to do. One of the things that I got an opportunity to take on and was violently told that I was going to do is go be a part of this emergency operations center, and this emergency operations center is pretty much spun over at Walmart anytime that something disrupts the natural flow of business so think of all the hurricanes and things that are happening on the East Coast we would get activated to figure out what does that mean for our stores. I was responsible for the people function, and so that was really how do we account for our people and take care of our people that are in that area happening there? So I got thrown over there and when I did that, I didn't want to go and do it.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you, I was voluntold and the very first year I was there, I spent like 57 days straight working in the EOC. So not doing my normal job, doing this extra job, um, taking care of our employees, which was really important, but it really allowed me to build relationships across the entire Walmart enterprise, right, uh? So that was one and then that. So that was, that was more relationship building. It was hard work, it was challenging, uh, but the relationships, the connections I made out of that paid dividends for sure over the course of my career. And then the one that was probably the most challenging for me was I ended up taking on a job after that project manager job to be a director of people modernization. That job was focused on a tech overhaul to bring in a new HRS system. Fun tech overhaul to bring in a new HRIS system.
Speaker 4:Yeah right, I know right. Those were always fun, and so we had decided that we were going to bring in Workday into Walmart.
Speaker 3:Into Walmart. So Workday was coming in to take the place of a homegrown system, and so yeah yeah, all that proprietary information that somebody thought was great and so yeah, yeah, all that proprietary information that somebody thought was great.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and so that job. It was the most challenging, for sure, but I can look back on it and also say it was the most rewarding. Yeah, but when you talk about, you know CEOs and everybody at your desk and on the phone trying to figure out what's going on, because we got all kind of downstream issues.
Speaker 3:And the spend, uh-huh yeah uh.
Speaker 4:So that was definitely the the most, uh, the most challenging uh piece of the career. And then I go. You know if I go.
Speaker 4:Third one I know you only asked for one, but I just go to all the disappointment too that's happened related to jobs, because not everybody, you know, sees where I am today and they're like oh, that's great, like, but there's so, yeah, there's so much disappointment along the way of jobs that I didn't necessarily get that I thought I was supposed to get, and things of that nature so many no's right before I got to a yes. And so I go back to those being challenging moments too, when you feel like you're ready for the next opportunity and it doesn't materialize the way you want it to materialize.
Speaker 3:I think you said a lot right there, because especially in HR there are a lot of no's, there's a lot of. You know it's hostile because sometimes when they're downsizing it's the first group you know that doesn't produce any money. So they're looking to say, oh well, the hiring manager can interview, we don't need a recruiter. Or you know, this person's been running this department forever, so they can do, they can be the business partner and they start to move through there. But even navigating externally, trying to get in that department is really hard because it's already tight as far as bandwidth and head counts and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, those are challenging but I do believe they build, you know, those resilience and all those things we need that character that we now have. It certainly can build that imposter syndrome when we do get something that we know we're supposed to have because well, why did they reject me? You know you go through that process but you've got to go back and refine yourself and remember your value so that you can get back to the next thing and keep functioning.
Speaker 2:So I do feel like, as hard as they are, we need those no's to to get back grounded and humble, and we all have had it, we've all had yes, the rejection. You know, I knew that job was for me, um and and then, when you think back to it, it's like, wow, you know, could have, should have, would have, and so we can be grateful for where we are no, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 4:I always take an approach of like hey, like if that didn't happen, it wasn't for me right, like there's a reason why that didn't happen, right, and usually you find that reason later, yeah right like hey, they downsize or something happens and you're like, oh, god appreciate, appreciate that or you get greater.
Speaker 3:you know you get something greater.
Speaker 2:You know, I've certainly had that happen where the doors close but then when the one opens, I'm like I'd rather have this anyway, right.
Speaker 2:But you just don't know that because you are in that moment but you got to process it and go through it and you get stronger and better. So I want to talk about the chorus. They say it's the heart of the song, and so it captures the main message and emotional essence. It's the part most listeners remember and sing along to. So what has been the core message for you, sean, in your career and also in your personal life?
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's good. That's good. I think there's there's a couple of things that I think I show up as consistently, regardless of what we're talking about work or personal Right. I think people have become known really as really a person that gets shit done Right, whether we're talking personally or professionally Right done right, whether we're talking personally or professionally right.
Speaker 4:Um, I've become, uh, and then when I talk about that, like people know, like that that I'm associated with, like they can call me, no matter the day, the hour, the time, and like if something needs to get done at that time, like I'm gonna make sure that it happens and it gets done right. Um, I've also, you know, become known for what I tell folks is like making the complex, simple, love that Right, and so I think that has paid like really good you know dividends for me over time. And then I always talk about relationships right, like I've been I hope that people would say this too but like I've become a really great person and hopefully building what I would call mutually beneficial relationships, and so I'm never really after really anything, um, you know, for for my own self right.
Speaker 4:Like there's no real self interest and anything that, um, I'm trying to do like do I want to be successful and do I want to do? I want to grow Like absolutely, but I'm not ever taking calculated things to make that happen. Right, like I'm just out trying to do. I'm just out trying to do good Right. And so that's what I would say, hopefully would would show up in that course around things, that kind of thread, the needle of personal and professional.
Speaker 3:I like that. I like making the complex simple. That's a, that's a book.
Speaker 2:And it's a way to sell any product. You know what I mean. Like what is the goal? You make it simple. What resonates for me is the character piece right, and also the reciprocity I want to make sure I'm giving to other people.
Speaker 2:It's so much more rewarding for me to support and help people than to need something to you know expect something back back, and that really is just our core character, and so I feel like people who are intentional about ensuring our characters in check will get those rewards, will get less, and that's not what we need to chase. We just need to chase remaining a good person and character, so I love that I love that.
Speaker 3:All right, we're to the bridge okay bring in the bridge all right uh, the bridge helps, breaks up the repetitiveness of the song. It adds an element of surprise generally and often presents a new angle to the main idea. What is your bridge or the thing that shakes you up just a little bit picks me up a little bit.
Speaker 4:That's really good. There's a lot of things, uh, I don't know. Like, when you said that, I immediately, like, went to pet peeves, like I don't know why. But you know, there's, there's. You know, I don't, I don't, I don't like excuses. Right. Again, I get that there's reasons why things happen. But I also think, like you know, I take an approach of like, if it's within my control, I'm going to control it. Right, I'm going to change that outcome. If it's not, I'm not going to worry about it, I'm going to let it roll down you know my back and leave it alone. And so, like, excuses tend to shake me up, right, I think about there's other things too, like tardiness and not being prepared and like all that stuff. Right, but that would be the one that probably comes to the top of mind. Is that one?
Speaker 3:I'm sure you've heard a lot of good excuses oh, always, always, yeah, always, anything that comes to the top of your head, we can take a whole other session.
Speaker 2:I know let's talk about it.
Speaker 3:We're HR professionals right Get them.
Speaker 4:Okay, here's another one, Simple, but like I didn't have time Like that's like an excuse, right, like okay, no, you didn't make time. It's not about having time, you had time, right, it just wasn't a priority for you. So that's a simple one. But, like whenever someone said I didn't have time to do it right, yeah, it wasn't important, right?
Speaker 2:like let's just talk about that piece, right? So what song is your go-to song, sean, that has pushed you through some challenges, rough times, or just simply today's going to be a day. It's going to be, more. What are you putting on question?
Speaker 4:I don't. That's a good one. I don't know about today, but I'll. I'll talk a little bit about this right. I lost my mom when I was 20, uh, grandparent my grandmother when I was 18. And both of those folks pretty much raised me in the song that I remember during that time that really helped was actually Yolanda Adams. Be blessed.
Speaker 2:Oh be blessed, Love me some, yolanda, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh, be blessed, love me some. Yulanda. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh. So that's the song that immediately came to mind. Like today, I can't say I got a song that I like put on and like play I'll.
Speaker 3:I'll listen to a lot of different things today so definitely depends on the, on the energy and the mood yeah, sometimes you gotta turn up, sometimes.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 4:Oh, go ahead. All right, see, all right. Yeah, I made the mistake of buying a karaoke machine this weekend, oh great.
Speaker 2:We'll come over, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4:We're going to have a little get-together.
Speaker 2:You're Maricopa, you are smidgen, maricopa. Yeah, yeah, I'll make the hype.
Speaker 1:Okay, you'll make the hype All right.
Speaker 3:Here you go. That sounds fun. So albums, you know, or full soundtracks. What do you recommend for a guest to purchase if they haven't already? One that you can maybe listen to from start to finish?
Speaker 4:A good album to listen to from start to finish. I'll give you two, all right, because I'm going to give you like one side and my other side. I'll tell you I got like two sides, okay. Like I'm like good and holy, like I'll give you like, uh, like both of those, all right. So I'm gonna go holy first, all right. Really, what I've been listening to, what I really like, who I like right now? Uh, maverick city music, okay. Uh, they do a really really good job so I try to catch them anytime they're in town. Uh, what I would go with on the holy side, on the hood side, I'm going to probably go with something Houston, and it's probably going to be like some UGK or something along those lines.
Speaker 3:All right, houston, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I know, like I love my Houston music I mean I could even go DJ Screw, like it's just like a whole lot of different things that I could go there. Those are the sounds of my childhood that just bring back like so many memories, and so those would be the two. So I cheated and I gave you two.
Speaker 3:I love them.
Speaker 2:I wanted to the two, so I cheated and I gave you two, so I actually had an opportunity to attend the gala and I was enjoying the the uh award ceremony. For sure, there were some great prominent people sold out quickly. Um, I found myself having a great time for the after party while we're talking about the music. Um, I also got a chance to bounce the basketball a little bit, so that was pretty cool, but it was a great turnout um.
Speaker 2:Shout out to you for putting that together. It was poised. Uh, the carver museum looked great. Everything was fun, so I was surprised and very happy to be in that space.
Speaker 4:It just felt really good yeah, well, definitely thanks for supporting. It was our first one, so we had no idea how it was going to turn out, but very pleased with uh how how it turned out. It was so important, uh, for us to do it in that space. Yeah Right, there's so much historical context there and for us to be, you know, an organization that's focused on Blacks in sports. It was important for us to do it there.
Speaker 2:But the support from the community and from everybody it blew our expectations out of the water, so thanks for sure, well, we're proud of you and we want to keep supporting you in every way. I mean, we is in the black community here in in the valley, um, and just really proud to see you doing your thing, so we'll keep doing that. Um, we also really appreciate your time and you hanging out with shatima and I today and giving us a chance to talk about it. Um, tell everybody where they can find you yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:So LinkedIn, instagram, x for those that use X, but LinkedIn, just my name, sean Mayo, but X and IG, sean Mayo HR, are the places you can find me. Thank you all for having me, thanks for putting this together and anything I can do to support you all. I'm a resource. I want to be able to help and support wherever I can.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Yeah, thank you so much for hanging out with us. We learned a lot. I'm definitely going to check out some of these recommendations that you've made for sure. For sure. I think of Maverick City. They were just here, Weren't they just here?
Speaker 4:They were. Yeah, I think they were just here, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I definitely need a little more, little more church in me these days to put it together. I want to also thank Procure Talent Management Group as a sponsor to the let's Talk About it podcast. It's an HR consulting firm located here. I am the CEO of that TJ. You want to talk about the Black HR Society? Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Our sponsor in hometown, the Black HR Society. We want to thank BHRS and our community. Be sure to like, follow and subscribe everywhere you can find your podcasts. Let's talk about it as well. We've got our own social sites, so please make sure you follow and subscribe and come on back next time. We are so glad to have you and can't look forward to next time. So thank you.
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