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THE WAYS WE MOVE + — Season 2 🚀
The podcast for professionals who need to understand where mobility is actually going — not where the press releases say it is.
Hosted by Nicolas Zart — Mobility Futurist, Strategic Intelligence Lead, and 20-year veteran of electric mobility and Advanced Air Mobility — The Ways We Move goes one layer deeper than mainstream coverage.
Each episode features unfiltered primary-source conversations with the founders, CEOs, engineers, DoD program leads, and infrastructure developers who are doing the real work.
No hype. No headlines recycled. Just the signal.
What we cover:
- Advanced Air Mobility — eVTOL certification, infrastructure, capital risk, and the OEM landscape
- Hydrogen and alternative propulsion — the real engineering trade-offs, not the talking points
- Electric mobility across air, land, and sea
- Emerging defense and dual-use aviation technology
- The business models, financial structures, and policy frameworks that determine what actually gets built
Who listens: Capital allocators, project finance professionals, infrastructure developers, aviation executives, DoD program leads, policy analysts, and anyone making decisions that depend on knowing what's real in advanced mobility.
Why subscribe: Because the gap between what gets announced and what actually happens is where the most important intelligence lives. Nicolas has spent 20 years finding that gap — and talking directly to the people on both sides of it.
Early access subscribers hear every episode 48 hours before public release. Back catalog subscribers get access to the full archive of primary-source conversations — one of the most concentrated records of advanced mobility intelligence available anywhere.
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The Ways We Move: Inside Advanced Air Mobility, Safety, Innovation, and the Next Decade with Dash Divakaran
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Join us on The Ways We Move today for an inspiring conversation with Darshan Dash Divakaran, a leader in aviation and advanced air mobility (AAM), former head of Airspace Innovation and Partnerships at AFWERX.
Dash shares his unique journey from commercial pilot to technology evangelist advancing the integration of autonomy, unmanned aviation, and next-generation airspace systems. In this episode, we explore the evolving landscape of advanced air mobility, its dual applications for military and civilian sectors, and how safety remains central to innovation. Discover industry challenges such as policy harmonization and technology integration, and hear Dash’s vision for the future of urban air mobility through interoperable systems and public-private partnerships.
We visit:
- The value of collaboration across government, industry, and academia in advancing AAM
- Challenges startups face navigating defense and federal sectors
- The transformative potential of AAM to reshape transportation and mobility
00:00 Introduction
Host Nicolas Zart introduces the podcast and today’s guest, Darshan Dash Divakaran.
02:15 Dash’s Background
Dash shares his transition from commercial pilot to aerospace innovator and explains his current role at AFWERX.
10:30 Evolution of Advanced Air Mobility
Discussion on how AAM has grown and its importance for both military and civilian use.
18:45 Safety as a Foundation
Dash explains why safety drives his work and how it influences the industry’s approach to technology and operations.
25:00 Industry Challenges and Opportunities
Insights on current hurdles, including the need for policy harmonization and integrating emerging technologies.
35:20 Looking Ahead
Dash shares his vision for the next five to ten years, highlighting interoperability and the role of partnerships.
45:00 Wrap-Up and Call to Action
Nicolas thanks Dash and invites listeners to engage with the episode and share their thoughts.
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