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THE WAYS WE MOVE + — Season 2 🚀

The podcast for professionals who need to understand where mobility is actually going — not where the press releases say it is.

Hosted by Nicolas Zart — Mobility Futurist, Strategic Intelligence Lead, and 20-year veteran of electric mobility and Advanced Air Mobility — The Ways We Move goes one layer deeper than mainstream coverage.

Each episode features unfiltered primary-source conversations with the founders, CEOs, engineers, DoD program leads, and infrastructure developers who are doing the real work.

No hype. No headlines recycled. Just the signal.

What we cover:

Advanced Air Mobility — eVTOL certification, infrastructure, capital risk, and the OEM landscape
Hydrogen and alternative propulsion — the real engineering trade-offs, not the talking points
Electric mobility across air, land, and sea
Emerging defense and dual-use aviation technology
The business models, financial structures, and policy frameworks that determine what actually gets built

Who listens: Capital allocators, project finance professionals, infrastructure developers, aviation executives, DoD program leads, policy analysts, and anyone making decisions that depend on knowing what's real in advanced mobility.

Why subscribe: Because the gap between what gets announced and what actually happens is where the most important intelligence lives. Nicolas has spent 20 years finding that gap — and talking directly to the people on both sides of it.

Early access subscribers hear every episode 48 hours before public release. Back catalog subscribers get access to the full archive of primary-source conversations — one of the most concentrated records of advanced mobility intelligence available anywhere.

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The Ways We Move Celebrating Our First Sponsor: AeroAuto! Interview with Charles "Charlie" Kestenbaum

Subscriber Episode • November 27, 2025 • Nicolas Zart • Season 1 • Episode 53

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What a way to celebrate Thanksgiving with this episode of 'The Ways We Move,' hosted by Nicolas Zart celebrating the podcast's first sponsor, AeroAuto!

Join us with AeroAuto, our first sponsor, as we reach 940 downloads in 11 months.

In this episode of 'The Ways We Move,' we sit down with Charles R. Kestenbaum, a board member of AeroAuto, whose career spans decades of remarkable experiences in international diplomacy and business. From his early days as a journalist covering the Lebanese Civil War to his pivotal role in U.S. commercial diplomacy across the Middle East, Charlie brings a wealth of knowledge and insight into the world of advanced mobility solutions. His stories of navigating complex geopolitical landscapes and fostering international business relationships offer listeners a unique perspective on the challenges and opportunities in the mobility sector. Join us as we delve into Charlie's fascinating journey and explore how his experiences shape the future of AeroAuto and the innovative mobility industry.

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