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THE WAYS WE MOVE + — Season 2 🚀
The podcast for professionals who need to understand where mobility is actually going — not where the press releases say it is.
Hosted by Nicolas Zart — Mobility Futurist, Strategic Intelligence Lead, and 20-year veteran of electric mobility and Advanced Air Mobility — The Ways We Move goes one layer deeper than mainstream coverage.
Each episode features unfiltered primary-source conversations with the founders, CEOs, engineers, DoD program leads, and infrastructure developers who are doing the real work.
No hype. No headlines recycled. Just the signal.
What we cover:
- Advanced Air Mobility — eVTOL certification, infrastructure, capital risk, and the OEM landscape
- Hydrogen and alternative propulsion — the real engineering trade-offs, not the talking points
- Electric mobility across air, land, and sea
- Emerging defense and dual-use aviation technology
- The business models, financial structures, and policy frameworks that determine what actually gets built
Who listens: Capital allocators, project finance professionals, infrastructure developers, aviation executives, DoD program leads, policy analysts, and anyone making decisions that depend on knowing what's real in advanced mobility.
Why subscribe: Because the gap between what gets announced and what actually happens is where the most important intelligence lives. Nicolas has spent 20 years finding that gap — and talking directly to the people on both sides of it.
Early access subscribers hear every episode 48 hours before public release. Back catalog subscribers get access to the full archive of primary-source conversations — one of the most concentrated records of advanced mobility intelligence available anywhere.
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AGS Xchange 2026: SkyDrive, Rune Aero, Georgia Tech & the AAM Ecosystem Taking Shape in Augusta, GA
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We went back to Augusta, Georgia for the seventh annual AGS Xchange Innovation Forum — one of the most grounded, honest, and genuinely useful one-day events in advanced air mobility. No hype. Just the people actually building this industry, in the same room, talking to each other.
In this episode you'll hear from SkyDrive's Robert Wariyar on the company's Tokyo demonstration flights, their 2028 J-CAB and FAA certification timeline, and why they're focusing on urban missions within a 30-mile radius. Professor Marilyn Smith of Georgia Tech's Vertical Lift Research Center of Excellence on collaboration, economic development, and the summer STEM camps bringing AAM to rural Georgia students. Nadine Auda, co-founder of Rune Aero, on their first-generation cargo test aircraft and why Georgia is becoming a hub for AAM innovation. SISO Air's team showing off NDA-compliant drone platforms including an extraordinary tail-sitting fixed-wing VTOL that covers 1,300 acres per battery. Diane Johnston of Augusta Regional Airport on seven years of building an ecosystem one conversation at a time.
A quick note on audio: our microphone went on strike at the worst possible moment. Some of the sound quality reflects that. Every speaker you hear in this episode will return for a full one-on-one episode with proper production quality — this is the preview.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/oLppTpVyU2c
Chapters:
00:00 — Welcome & Introduction
03:20 — On the floor: drone demonstrations and military UAS
06:11 — SISO Air: NDA-compliant platforms and the tail-sitting VTOL
10:30 — SkyDrive's Robert Wariyar: Tokyo demos, urban missions & 2028 certification
14:44 — Georgia Tech: vertical lift research and rural STEM outreach
24:58 — Augusta Regional Airport Fire Chief: public safety and AAM risk
25:41 — Professor Marilyn Smith: collaboration, Georgia Tech & summer camps 29:21 — Diane Johnston, Augusta Regional Airport: seven years of building the room
31:40 — Nadine Auda, Rune Aero: cargo aviation and the Georgia AAM ecosystem
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