Eagles Win in Green Bay; Ugly Win Raises Even More Concerning Questions - Ep. 28

Eagles escape Green Bay with a win and are 7-2, going to play the Detroit Lions. The 76ers continue to play good basketball without the help of some key factors. The Flyers are showing why they can be a sneaky competitor in the playoffs this year. The MLS is also adjusting its schedule to align with the top European clubs.       

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:04

Hey guys, welcome back to one five sports podcast with Adrian Glover, the host talking, and Tyler Lusion across from me. What's going on everyone? On this Friday, the Eagles were able to get to seven and two with a victory on Monday Night Football against the Packers. Was a very, very bad game, I I'd say for myself on Monday night. Battle of defenses for sure, which the Eagles did reign supreme. But they they escaped Green Bay, it was ugly, and it raises a lot of questions coming into game against another NFC North opponent, another tough opponent, Detroit Lions. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 0:44

And one thing about the Green Bay thing, well, not really the Green Bay thing, but just about Green Bay. I wonder if the fact that they were playing outdoors for the first time in like 30 degree weather Yeah, it was type of difference.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03

So that obviously makes a difference because the Eagles, that's the lowest temperature game that they played in all year, and it honestly could stay that way.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11

Yeah, and I mean it's that when you see guys like slipping and sliding all over the field, which I'm not sure if you noticed that while you were watching. I did watch it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20

Saquon was slipping and sliding. Yeah, like people were having problems with their traction. Myelata slipped and Saquon fell on top of him. Yeah, which means he couldn't get any yards.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29

I mean, I guess that's just because the field was so cold that like you couldn't. Maybe it was so cold it was laying off like it was maybe damp from the Well, not that it's just no freezing. It gets like the ground gets cold and it gets really hard to penetrate. Maybe that was, you know, like maybe someone's cleat didn't fully get stuck in the ground. Yeah, I think they I think they use natural grass, but I'm not entirely too sure. I'm pretty sure it's natural grass. But you know, if you got natural grass, obviously that's gonna be a lot more susceptible to the conditions than astroturf or turf, you know. You got little pellets that are easy to plant your foot into as opposed to frozen solid ground.

SPEAKER_01: 2:20

Which is probably one of the key reasons that the Eagles couldn't really get anything going on the run game.

SPEAKER_00: 2:25

Yeah, I think that had uh a lot to do with both offenses struggling in this game.

SPEAKER_01: 2:30

Yeah, only 60 yards on 20 carries for Saquon. Yeah. Same with Jacobs, he had like 20 walls. Josh Jacobs 70. Josh Jacobs didn't even have that good of a game here. Neither offenses performed.

SPEAKER_00: 2:41

Yeah, and both offenses were very they they seemed very just I don't want to say not prepared, but they weren't really expecting the defense from the other side, I think, to be as great as it was.

SPEAKER_01: 2:57

I mean, you think the Eagles would have came into this like, all right, the Packers are very good defense. They just added someone in Michael Parsons, they have a really good secondary. You you think they would study them a little bit more, but they it looks like they came out they came out silly.

SPEAKER_00: 3:13

Well, the one thing that's troubling is the fact that they had 15 days to prepare for it and the offense still looked as bad as it did. They they yeah, they mustered 10 points coming off uh like bye week. You had uh 15 days of rest, you had 15 days to get a game plan together. But what what I will say is at least it did seem like at in the beginning, they did have a plan, because that first drive was great up until Hertz fumbled the ball, you know? Yeah, and they did 16 play drive 16 play, they wasted a ton of clock. Yeah, like a whole eight and a half minutes of clock.

SPEAKER_01: 3:49

And then the Packers' first drive, that was a pretty long one, too. Yeah. Wasted a lot of clock as well. They by the time the Eagles finished their first drive, it was already the second quarter, wasn't it? It sounded it seemed like it. There was only like a couple of seconds left in the first quarter when Hertz ended up fumbling on that run.

SPEAKER_00: 4:07

And then I don't even think they got the ball back to did they get the ball back in the first quarter? Well, they ended up No.

SPEAKER_01: 4:15

No, I think the Packers ended up punting.

SPEAKER_00: 4:18

So yeah, like both their team both teams' first drives ended up taking up basically half of the first quarter. Or both of their first drives took up the entirety of the first quarter together, which is kind of crazy in itself. And I guess that could also be contributed as to why the game was so low scoring. The fact that you had a sustained drive that took nine minutes off the clock and yet you didn't get anything from it.

SPEAKER_01: 4:47

You have drives that are taking up six, seven minutes of play clock just to punt.

SPEAKER_00: 4:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 4:52

So that's almost like half a quarter.

SPEAKER_00: 4:55

Like that was a quick game. I remember I I went to the bathroom during halftime, and then I came out of the bathroom, and it was kickoff, and I looked at the clock, like, you know, in my kitchen as I was passing by, and I was like, holy crap, is it really only 9 50 something right now? It's not even 10 o'clock in the second half already starts.

SPEAKER_01: 5:17

Usually they last longer because then after every drive, there's a commercial. Yeah, and then you have those long drives or you have timeouts and stuff, but it was a really fast first half. Yeah. And it took it took the Eagles six minutes into the third quarter to finally get on the board with a Jake Elliott field goal.

SPEAKER_00: 5:35

And I mean, it's not like that drive was really great in itself either. I mean, they got that that was what, a five-play drive? Or a six-play drive, I think. They got one first down, and that was it. I believe that drive was on the fumble. Yeah, from the forced fumble.

SPEAKER_01: 5:55

Because there was two fumbles.

SPEAKER_00: 5:56

Yeah. You had the one fumble that Jordan Love did, and I think that was the fumble that they ended up getting the field goal off of, correct?

SPEAKER_01: 6:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 6:04

And then you had the fumble late into the fourth quarter with Josh Jacobs on fourth and one. Right. So luckily, you know, they were able to force those turnovers because if you don't get that short field there, it it could have been seven to seven very easily. Yeah. And then you're going into overtime.

SPEAKER_01: 6:20

Seven to three, even who knows if McManus makes that field goal at the end. It could be ten to ten.

SPEAKER_00: 6:27

Dude, were you as I wasn't like mad, I was just kind of like, what are they doing when McManus had that free attempt to try from 64 yards that didn't count? And then I I didn't I was so confused on that too. So what happened was Sirianni called the timeout, and then like two to three seconds after the whistles blow, McManus kicks it. McManus kicks it. Yeah. And like everyone on the Eagles sideline was like, whoa, whoa, that's that should be like a penalty. Like, how come he gets just like a free kick? Yeah. And Matt LaFleur got to see, oh wow, this is way this is too far for McManus. He's not gonna hit it. So he ended up sending his offense back out onto the field to try to get like an extra three to four yards and then send McManus together.

SPEAKER_01: 7:15

And then Jordan Love didn't get anything, just threw it away. And I was worried. I was worried if McManus was gonna tie it because I with the stuff with kickers this year and the balls, the guy from Jacksonville has now the 68? Yeah, the new career long. The kicker from Tampa hit from 65 against us in week four. So I was worried, like, is McManus actually gonna drill this from 64? No, the and then he thank god he shanked it. I was like, I got up, I was like, oh my god, thank God.

SPEAKER_00: 7:44

Well, when they kept making the point on the broadcast that he was coming off of a quad injury, I was like, is he really actually gonna make kicks from 64?

SPEAKER_01: 7:53

And that that's usually a time where it's like he might jinx this. Yeah, I was like, he's nailing this right down the middle over time.

SPEAKER_00: 8:00

And honestly, that first kick that didn't count looked pretty good. It looked like it was on, it just was maybe a couple of feet short from and then the second kick was just shot. Absolutely terrible, yeah. But the fact that he was even able to get that first kick off, and then the Packers were able to like pull their team, like pull the kicking team off and put the offense back on, I think that is a really, really severe problem that needs to be addressed. Cause what if he doesn't, you know, he he takes that kick, he doesn't make it. What if they get the completion to move up four yards, and then he's got two seconds left, and then he kicks a 60 yarder and they win the game. Exactly. Like what or what if they get a Hail Mary off? Like, I'm pretty sure me and you and everyone in the Philadelphia area would be sitting there going like, whoa, whoa, whoa, why did he get a practice kick to find out that he wasn't gonna make it from 64? To be able to then go, oh well, now I'm gonna make the informed decision now that I know that my guy can't make it from 64 to send the offense back out.

SPEAKER_01: 9:06

Yeah, which was a ridiculous call, by the way, too. That was terrible.

SPEAKER_00: 9:10

Like the officiating once again was terrible. And I think who whoever the guy that they have on, like Blandino, right? That's the the ref guy that they usually have, Dean Blandino. Yeah, right. I think they had him like try to explain it, and he was like, Well, it's the job of the official to go over and collect the ball so that you know the kicker doesn't get a free thing. Well, he didn't do his job. So what's the reprimation?

SPEAKER_01: 9:34

The referee didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_00: 9:36

So what's the reprimandation? You could have potentially costed the Eagles a win by the fact that your reps didn't do what their job was. Like, and there's nothing, no repercussion about it. I haven't heard anything about it since the end of that game because there was no consequence.

SPEAKER_01: 9:50

No, because it because the Packers lost. Right. There was two tush pushes in that game. Both of them were offsides by a long shot. The first one was done by the Packers, and you can clearly see that the guy is offside. And then another one by the Eagles where Dickerson moves like a whole second and a half before they call the snap.

SPEAKER_00: 10:12

There were a couple of times where I felt like during the snapping motion that I saw, even like not on touch push plays, I just felt like there were a couple of times where I saw offensive linemen getting off before the ball was snapped and there were no flags thrown.

SPEAKER_01: 10:27

There were I don't know what it is. Wait, why how can you not tell the offensive line is jumping or I can see this from the TV, dude? Like you're gonna see this from the TV. How do you not see it? Which is like, we'll say the TV's maybe like twenty feet away from me. So the TV's 20 feet away from me on the couch, and the referee is about 20 feet away from the player. I mean, you'd be able to see a more clear image of the pl of the player moving than it is on the 1080p TV.

SPEAKER_00: 10:58

And I mean the dude that's standing right behind the quarterback should have a great view of when that ball is snapped as compared to where everyone else moves on the line. Like, if you're standing behind the quarterback, you know exactly when that ball is moving. That's what you're looking for. So the fact that you're not able to pick up that someone else moved before the ball did, that can't be something that's a blame placed on the Eagles. What? You want the Eagles to officiate the game too? You want them to play you want them to call plays, run plays, and officiate? Like, no, that's not their job.

SPEAKER_01: 11:27

Does the uh referee or the umpire or the line judge, do they have like a earpiece in where it's just like feeding them fan-Duel information? Like, hey, don't call this play. We need the over on one and a half touch pushes.

SPEAKER_00: 11:40

The the money uh from the public all came in on the over for the point total for this game. So let's make sure that we keep it under, no matter what. Let's make sure we don't call flags touch pushes and pass interferences. And all this stuff about the officiating. I mean, to act like it only happens in Eagles games is extremely naive. The officials are bad across the board. I'm guarantee you, if you go and look at other teams, you will also see guys moving before the ball is snapped, and no calls are being made. Now, for some reason, everyone just likes to notice that when it's the Eagles because of the Tush push. Exactly. Yet they don't say anything about everyone when everyone else does it.

SPEAKER_01: 12:23

Everyone pins it on the Eagles because the Tush push has become so popular with them and they're they're so successful at it, everyone's just gonna take the blame onto the Eagles. Imagine if a team like the Browns did the Tush push, four out of like the five offensive linemen jump off sides, and then they would still say, This I'm blaming on the Eagles.

SPEAKER_00: 12:42

And it's just so stupid because since when in you know sports did we just completely forget that there are other teams and there are other people involved with the game than the actual players on the team that are playing it. There's a lot more that goes into a game than just the players that are on the field. I mean, you got the officiating, you got the coaches, you got fans that are acting crazy, you got doctors, medical officials, security. Like, there's a lot of different moving pieces that are going on when you're down there on that field. And for someone to just think that the Eagles are the only team that's taking advantage of the fact that the refs can't see everything is very, very misguided, in my opinion. Because there are always teams that are going to take advantage of whatever they can whenever the refs give them the opportunity to. How many times have we seen a game where in the beginning of the game the cornerbacks or the wide receivers are getting testy with each other to see what gets called for later in the game? See that a lot. Exactly. It happens all the time, yet no one vilifies them for doing that when it's clearly a penalty or an illegal thing that they call it.

SPEAKER_01: 13:57

All they call it's a touch push.

SPEAKER_00: 13:59

Yeah, so all this like miss me with all the tush push stuff. Like, I understand that it might not be something that the NFL wants, but up until there's rules in place to take it out, you just have to suck it up and live with it. I mean, that's just the way it is. I have a grand feeling that it's gonna get banned this follow this offseason.

SPEAKER_01: 14:20

But it's not banned right now. It's not banned right now. I'm sure that the Eagles are probably going to abuse it as much as they can, knowing that they probably know it's probably gonna get banned.

SPEAKER_00: 14:32

And here's the thing every other team would do the same exact thing if they could run it just like the Eagles would. Every single other team would take advantage of whatever the rules let them to take advantage of if the team allows it. You know what I mean? Like, if there was some unstoppable play where no matter what you did, let's say it wasn't for the Eagles, let's say it was a team that like Miami. Remember when Miami first had the Wildcat and they scored all like they the the league had no idea how to defend against the Wildcat formation. They were very successful in running the Wildcat, having the, you know, running back snap the ball, having two running backs lined up beside the quarterback, not knowing who's gonna take the snap. It took the league a little while for them to adjust and figure out how to properly defend it. That didn't mean that people just outright banned the Wildcat because they were like, oh, this team's being too successful with this formation. That means that it must be an unfair advantage, and we gotta like no that's what people think about the no push. It just means that defenses need time to prepare for it.

SPEAKER_01: 15:38

And that's what that's what it needs for a touch push. People say that the touch push is too overpowered because the Eagles know how to execute it well. That well, that's because we know how to execute it well. And it's not that teams and defenses don't know how to stop the touch push because they don't train for it.

SPEAKER_00: 15:54

Plus, the Eagles have the personnel to actually run it, where other teams don't have the personnel to run it.

SPEAKER_01: 16:00

We have some of the best offensive linemen in the entire NFL. It's just a matter of fact, it's gonna get banned because every single time an offensive lineman jumps offside. Well, you but you're gonna see that with any short yardage play. You're gonna see that with every single short yardage play, and it's always seen on TV and on the Jumbotron and on social media and all that. And they're still gonna end up banning it just because like they're gonna say like it's too powerful for the Eagles. No other team can do it. Every everyone jumps off sides.

SPEAKER_00: 16:30

For everyone that says that, I just want them to take a good look on Sunday morning when there's the NFL game in Madrid. I want everyone to s look in short yardage situations, and you will find people that are getting off the ball before the ball is snapped. It is not just the Eagles out there, ladies and gentlemen. It happens to everybody, it's every single team.

SPEAKER_01: 16:52

But they they love putting the blame on the Eagles for the touch push.

SPEAKER_00: 16:56

That's just really like naive, in my opinion. It's childish almost to think that it's only happening to the Eagles and no other team in the league is taking advantage of this, too. Like, really, guys, you would realize we're all grown adults here.

SPEAKER_01: 17:11

Yeah, you would think a team would take advantage of it.

SPEAKER_00: 17:13

Yeah, like if you're at your your job and you figure out there's a shortcut in order to do something quicker, you're going to do it. Like, do you remember no matter whether or not it's technically part of company policy or whatever, if there's a shortcut for you to do it and do it more efficiently, you're going to take that shortcut. Like, do you remember the torpedo bats?

SPEAKER_01: 17:34

Yeah. That's a good example right there. The Yankees were using the torpedo bats and they hit what, nine home runs in a game? Why does another team start using the torpedo bats? It gives them a better advantage and helps them to make better contact. Yeah, I mean, with uh what are they gonna do? Ban the torpedo bat because the Yankees know how to hit home runs? Like they have the best freaking American League MVP, Aaron Chudge, 50 plus home runs a season.

SPEAKER_00: 18:00

Well, they they can't ban it technically because it's within the guidelines of the rules.

SPEAKER_01: 18:05

It's a legal bat, obviously.

SPEAKER_00: 18:07

It's within the guidelines of the rules. So unless they want to completely change the way that the rules are stated, your bat can be.

SPEAKER_01: 18:13

The commissioner came out and said something like, Yeah, we need to change these rules of bats. Right. You know, and everyone has used a wiffle ball bat.

SPEAKER_00: 18:19

Right. But notice how after the Yankees caught on with that, you noticed other players on other teams started to use that bat as well. They started to use the torpedo bat. They didn't sit there and go, Help Yankees use the torpedo bat, they need to be banned. Well, like, no, that's not what happened. What happened was oh, if there's something that's new that we can all use to better our game, then we're all gonna use it.

SPEAKER_01: 18:42

But when it comes to the Eagles and the touch push, everyone's like, we can't do it because we don't want to improve our team. We don't want to get our quarterback into the end zone faster.

SPEAKER_00: 18:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 18:51

And it's just a bunch of nonsense and BFs.

SPEAKER_00: 18:54

And plus, there are other teams that are jealous of the fact that they just don't have the personnel to be able to run the play. Like, not every team has a quarterback in Jalen Hurts that can squat 450 freaking pounds. And same with Saquon. Like, yeah, yeah, like not every team has that type of player that's just available to them. And because they don't, they're like, oh well, it's unfair that you have the personnel to be able to do. No, it's not. I drafted my team. Did you draft your team? I put my team together. I didn't do anything illegal in putting my team together. I put my team together in legal ways, and these are the strengths of my team. If I'm not gonna use the strengths of my team, then I'm the dummy. Let me put it to people this way. When you see the tush push being ran by the Eagles so successfully, if there were another coach that were to come in here and just stop calling the tush push, wouldn't we all get on that coach and be like, why aren't you running the most successful play that's in your freaking playbook?

SPEAKER_01: 19:52

What if Kellen Moore ended up stop calling the Tush push? Actually, no, Kevin Moore is not a good example. What if Kevin Petulo just like, all right, we're gonna stop calling the tush push just because it was Kellen Moore's idea and I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_00: 20:07

How long before the broadcasters would jump on Kellen Moore, uh, would jump on Kevin Put more. Everyone would jump on Kevin Patulo and being like, oh, well, he's not using his players effectively. He should be doing this because it works for them. Yeah, like he's not using the most effective play that the Eagles have in their playbook. Exactly. So either way you look at it, people are gonna just have a problem with this play, it seems like, no matter what the actual outcome of the play is, who's running it, or how effective it is. It's just that they just don't like the play because there's 20 other teams in the league that don't have the actual possibility to run this play successfully. And because of that, it's hated and vilified by the rest of the league. If every single team had a quarterback that could squat 400 pounds, I guarantee you you wouldn't be hearing this nonsense. You would because everyone would have the personnel to be able to have this play be an advantage for them. So pe people don't think, I feel like, when they they don't think in a more complex way and they just take things on the surface just because that's how the national people tend to present things to you. On a national scale, when they're talking about the Eagles, they're not getting in-depth about the Eagles. You know, when you're watching Fox pregame, they're not sitting there going on the same level of depth that you get from Michael Barkham and Amy Fidul and Brandon Brooks on Eagles pregame. No, because they're more focused on the whole national thing. Exactly every single team. So it's just when people get all caught up in what the national pundits say and they just listen to whatever they say because they're the national ones, so they have to be the best at their job because they're national. Also, everyone out there, that's not how it is. There are some people that are very, very good at their job that are local that don't want to go national because they don't want to have to provide their fandom for their favorite team.

SPEAKER_01: 22:03

They like staying local, right?

SPEAKER_00: 22:05

Would anyone sit there and say that Michael Barkham is not as good of an analyst as Howie Long? No, he's freaking fantastic. He's fantastic. He needs he does all the sports. And he would have every if he was on the national stage, he would do fantastic. But he doesn't want to be, he doesn't want to go out and follow all these other teams. He just wants to follow the local teams, he wants to follow the Phillies, the Eagles, the Flyers, the Sixers. He doesn't want to follow everyone else, he's not interested in that. He only cares about the Eagles, and that's what we like about him. Exactly. It's because I feel like a lot of people like to compare the local guy to the national guy, and they go, oh, well, the local guy must not know as much as what he's talking about, because if he did, he would be national. And that's just also like he not thinking.

SPEAKER_01: 22:57

More about the Eagles than the national guy does, and he knows more about the opponent than the national guy. Exactly, because he's more focused on who the opponent is. And not 32.

SPEAKER_00: 23:08

So for people that are out there that just take whatever the national people say, I really strongly implore you to take news from outside of just the national media outlets, and you'll get more information that you're actually looking for that can help you get to a conclusion as opposed to a lot of confusion that you get with the national broadcast, because the national stuff is all just based off of how the public feels in the moment. You know? No one is gonna sit there and talk about how great Matthew Stafford is on a national standpoint if he just got into a car accident and you know it was all his fault and he got a DUI. No one's gonna sit there and be like, oh well, Matthew Stafford is so great, he's such a great quarterback. No, the national thing is gonna switch swift, I mean, switch, to wow, how did this great quarterback get himself into this scenario where he was drinking and driving and now he calls a blah blah blah blah blah, and how does that affect his legacy? Like, people just gotta stop thinking in such a sense where it's like, oh well, these national guys, they just must have all the answers. Because I think that's wrong.

SPEAKER_01: 24:18

When it's more local, yeah. I agree with the local, but back to the game. We got sidetracked a little bit by Touch Push. We did get sidetracked. But uh, we gotta talk about Jalen Phillips. Yeah, because he had a fantastic game. Freaking best game of his career, Eagles needed that so bad. And look what happened. Fantastic game.

SPEAKER_00: 24:53

And it couldn't have come at a better time when both defenses are playing at their best, that the guy that you trade for just happens to be one of the top three players on your stellar defense in the first game that he's out there. That doesn't inspire confidence in the new guys that are coming in, then I don't know what will. Like, if if you don't see that performance from Jalen Phillips and go, wow, this team is so significantly better with him as opposed to without him, then I I don't I don't know what you're seeing. I don't see I don't see him.

SPEAKER_01: 25:30

Yeah, I don't know what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00: 25:31

Because he was fantastic.

SPEAKER_01: 25:33

And the whole defense was fantastic.

SPEAKER_00: 25:35

I know that there were people that were out there that were like, Oh, how could we give up a third round pick? A third round pick is too much, blah blah blah. Third round pick is not too much for a player of that caliber. No, and for everyone that's worried about the pick, right? I just want to state out there. Y'all do realize if Jalen Phillips plays well enough to the point where he prices himself out of Philadelphia and he can't get re-signed, the Eagles get a compensatory draft pick for losing him. And guess how far that can go to the third round, depending upon how much money he gets paid.

SPEAKER_01: 26:10

So if he shows out they could get a third round pick and Jalen Phillips and a third round pick.

SPEAKER_00: 26:16

Exactly. If he shows out, you know, then it's you know how good Howie Roseman is in drafting players in the second, third, and fourth round. And when he seems to trade picks away, he always gets them back. He always gets them back or he gets at least very good value in return. So uh for all the people that are like, oh, the third round selection, it's so important. Well, if Jalen Phillips plays well enough, you're either gonna re-sign him, so that third round selection might not be as big of a deal, or he's gonna play so well, he's gonna get priced out, and you're either gonna get a third or a fourth round pick as compensation.

SPEAKER_01: 26:52

And when you talk about how he Roseman and his drafting skills, it's like you always want to see like the first round pick obviously is gonna be the most exciting, but you want to see those picks in the second, third, fourth, and those later rounds because he knows that he can find some really good players that are in the rough, and he's able to There's been a lot of players that they've fantastic players that he's been selected in the late rounds. Like JLX Hunt was a third round pick. Yep.

SPEAKER_00: 27:17

A Jomo was a third. There's I know that there's other Reed Blankenship was undrafted.

SPEAKER_01: 27:23

Yeah. Like I mean So there's there he knows how to find players in the rough like that.

SPEAKER_00: 27:28

Yeah. I mean, Tank Bigsby, guy he traded for, that was a guy that was, I believe, a third or a fourth round selection. I mean, there there's there's someone else on the the Ogo, he he's hurt right now. Ogo Conkloro? Yeah, he was like a sixth-round selection. And like he was starting for you at some point during the season before he got hurt. Like he's capable of getting these low picks and getting some very decent value.

SPEAKER_01: 27:56

I mean, Trot Jr. was what? A round pick? Fourth round pick, yeah. Nicobe Dean, a third-round pick, had a fantastic game. Yeah. Sack, a tackle for a loss, and a fumble. So it's Bond, who is uh who was a fourth round pick or something from like the Saints, had eight tackles and led the team that night.

SPEAKER_00: 28:14

And I'm pretty sure CJ Garner Johnson wasn't a high pick either, was he? He wasn't a first rounder or second rounder.

SPEAKER_01: 28:20

Garner Johnson, yeah. Something like that.

SPEAKER_00: 28:22

He was like a third or a fourth rounder back when the Saints drafted him. He didn't get drafted in the first round. So just because you know you're giving up a third round pick does not mean that you're now incapable of finding anyone else beyond that third round pick. There's still plenty of good players as long as you scout.

SPEAKER_01: 28:39

And they could get a third round pick back. Yeah. So it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00: 28:42

Plus, the Eagles player development has produced enough players from lower selections at this point where you gotta be willing to just put a little bit of faith in them, I feel like, right? They've earned that from us at this point. You know? Like when you have guys that come in and perform and are starters on your team that were taken in round four, five, six, seven. That knows that shows me you develop the player after you're gonna be able to do that. That shows that you can develop a really good player. Right. Like Jordan Mylato is a seventh round.

SPEAKER_01: 29:13

You don't really see seventh round picks starting in the league, sixth and seventh round picks. It's usually first, second, and third round picks at the starting.

SPEAKER_00: 29:20

A sixth and a seventh might be a guy that's rotated in every now every now and then situation or a guy that's on the practice squad. Right. You not not starters. And the Eagles have at least three guys that are starters on their team that are seventh round selection. You got Milata, you got a Jomo, and Aconquo, who was a sixth round selection.

SPEAKER_01: 29:43

And then the first round the first rounders on offense is Devontae, Lane Johnson, and then if you want to count Saquon.

SPEAKER_00: 29:51

AJ Brown was drafted.

SPEAKER_01: 29:52

If you want to count Saquon and A.J. Brown, yeah, but they were drafted from different teams.

SPEAKER_00: 29:55

Right, but I mean we're counting the guys that are drafted from different teams that are pretty much lower as well.

SPEAKER_01: 30:00

Draft picks in the uh first round offensive wise only are only Devontae Smith and Lane Johnson.

SPEAKER_00: 30:06

So and regardless of where the pick is, the Eagles just have shown that they have a very good eye for identifying talent. Very good eye for identifying talent. By the fact that you brought in Zach Bond, who was a guy that was a special teamer, and he's now a starting middle linebacker for your team, and is probably a top five linebacker in the NFL. Like the fact that you were able to pick that out and identify that from a guy that only had tape of basically special teams play shows me you guys got an eye for talent. And that if you have your eyes set on someone, I'm not gonna sit there and question you. Because you've given me enough data to show me, hey, your thinking is probably more correct than mine is. So I'm just gonna trust what you have to give to me at this point. And I feel like every Eagles fan kind of has to give that the coaching staff and the front office that same grace.

SPEAKER_01: 31:06

Yeah, and I and I I feel like they do give the coaching staff and the front office a ton of grace. But uh one thing I want to switch to now. Oh, first of all, I just want to give a round of applause to uh Jamma Phillips, and hopefully that continues against Detroit, because that's not gonna be an easy game. No, and they're gonna need him you're not gonna be able to go into this game versus Detroit and score ten points. I mean, it's just not gonna happen. I mean, you have superstar-powered offense. You would think the way that AJ Brown is speaking about himself right now, that the Eagles are two and seven and dead last in the NFC East, no one's in the stadium, they're losing games by 35. He's definitely making it out to be a lot of worse than it is. This is a Super Bowl caliber offense, defense team in general, and they're they need to do more than score measly 10 points against the Detroit Lions because the Lions have an okay defense, they do give up a lot of points.

SPEAKER_00: 32:07

And then when Well, the the thing about the Lions is their pass rush. The pass rush, if you let the pass rush dominate the game, their defense is going to dominate the game.

SPEAKER_01: 32:18

Because they have superstars like Ada Hutchinson.

SPEAKER_00: 32:21

Yeah. And it's not it's not just him. I'm pretty sure they've got like four or five guys on that defensive line that all have four or five sacks.

SPEAKER_01: 32:28

They have a fantastic defensive line.

SPEAKER_00: 32:30

Yeah, and the fact that they're just able to pin their ears back and get after the quarterback and get pressure consistently makes the entire rest of the defense better.

SPEAKER_01: 32:39

And if they and if the offensive line continues to get injured, like if Dickerson goes down again or Lane Johnson goes down, you know, if we're stuck with Toath, Fred Johnson, Tyler Steen, like Hurts is gonna be running for his life out there.

SPEAKER_00: 32:54

Tooth has been alright the past two weeks. Yeah, Toath has been fine, but obviously you want Jurgens out there. But I'm just saying, it's not like Jalen was running around for his life against the Packers, was he? I mean, a little bit, getting chased by Parsons a little. Yeah, but Parsons was never lined up on Toath. He wasn't lined up opposite the center.

SPEAKER_01: 33:14

But I feel like most of the time Hertz was getting chased. It was particularly from Micah Parsons.

SPEAKER_00: 33:20

Yeah, and that's to be expected, you know. Micah Parsons is one of the things.

SPEAKER_01: 33:26

Mike Parsons is one of the best defensive players in the league. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 33:29

And they all like to use the term game record. He really is. He knows the Eagles a lot because he's played them various times on the Cowboys. I mean, he's played them, what, eight times? Because this is his fifth year in the league. Eight times. Eight times already.

SPEAKER_01: 33:45

He's seen Hertz all those years because he's been the starter. So obviously he knows the Eagles and their game plan.

SPEAKER_00: 33:51

Plus, it's not like the offensive line has changed too much over those seasons. You've had a couple of years.

SPEAKER_01: 33:56

Yeah, it's not like it's not like it's a brand new offensive line.

SPEAKER_00: 33:59

Right. So you're familiar with what they try to do to try to stop you from getting to the quarterback, which I imagine after so many amounts of time seeing, that more plays into the defensive end's hands than the offensive ends.

SPEAKER_01: 34:10

That's probably why Parsons had a better advantage.

SPEAKER_00: 34:14

Yeah, and I'm sure that he was sharing some of that information with other people on the team as well.

SPEAKER_01: 34:18

Yeah, I definitely agree with that as well. Yeah. I just feel like the Eagles are gonna have to go out there and score points, like what I said. The Lions, their defense can give up a decent amount of points at some times, but their offense can back it up. When you have guys like Jameer Gibbs and Ross St. Brown, Jameson Williams, Sam Laporta, they have a really good offensive line. So if their offense is able to, you know, drive down the field and score points quickly, and the Eagles do the little two runs to Saquon and then maybe like a one-yard throw to God or Calcutera, I mean they're not gonna be able to get any points, and that the Lions just keep on scoring, this game's gonna be a blowout.

SPEAKER_00: 34:56

And also, I gotta feel like I gotta say this as well. If AJ Brown was only targeted two times on the opening drive and not targeted again until the last throw of the game, you're probably not gonna win this game. They're not gonna win this game. They're gonna have to get AJ Brown.

SPEAKER_01: 35:11

They're gonna have to target AJ Brown more. He's their he's their number one receiver. And I get it, Devontae Smith has been fantastic, yeah. He clearly the night one wide receiver one right now. And with the way he's playing. But they're gonna have to get to Brown more. I don't know who's gonna cover him, Terry and Arnold or whoever else they have, but if they're gonna double cover him, I don't know what they're gonna do, but you gotta start targeting him more. You know, you just can't be throwing a four-yard slant to him and calling it a day.

SPEAKER_00: 35:42

Well, he's making how much money to be the 50th overall in receiving yards this season? Like really? He's making a lot more money than both of us combined. And he's making more money than all three of these players combined, probably by like$10 million. Kashawn Booty, Kendrick Bourne, and Trey Tucker. Those are three names of guys that are ahead of him in receiving yards so far this season. One of them is a guy that hasn't played in two weeks in Kendrick Bourne. The other guy is a guy that also has not played in two weeks in Kayshawn Booty. He sat out the game last night with the Patriots, and I'm pretty sure he missed the previous game too. And Trey Tucker, who's on the horrible, horrible Las Vegas Raiders offense. Because I have him in fantasy. He's been out a couple of games. Yeah, but like he's and yet he's still higher in receiving yards, even though he's missed games. AJ Brown hasn't missed any games. Yet all these guys.

SPEAKER_01: 36:39

AJ Brown has missed one game against the Giants.

SPEAKER_00: 36:42

The one game. But still, these are not guys that you're expecting to hear have better numbers than AJ Brown. Really? Trey Tucker, the guy that is on the Las Vegas Raiders offense that can't seem to throw a single goddamn completion. With Tino Smith as a quarterback. And he's got more receiving yards than AJ Brown. Just think about that.

SPEAKER_01: 37:04

Yeah, I I understand AJ's I understand AJ's bitching. Like, that is S and I. Because I I the I the team is very focused on like winning. I hear a lot of them say, like, Hertz and Sa Juan, like, yeah, we don't give a shit about fantasy football or stats, we don't stat pad or anything like that. They're just out there to win. Right. And I understand that. And what is AJ Brown's purpose out there? To get into the end zone. What happens when you get into the end zone? You score a touchdown, you get points. What happens when you have more points than the other team, you'll win? But he's not getting the opportunity.

SPEAKER_00: 37:37

He's not getting an opportunity because And here's the thing. If you're AJ Brown, you want to feel like you're contributing to this team's success. With the way they're playing, they're seven and two. You'd think he'd be a key contributor. But he's not. He's not. And that probably rubs him the wrong way. And I can understand what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01: 37:56

That allows him to lash out frustration.

SPEAKER_00: 37:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 37:59

When he's when he's supposed to be the main guy getting the catches, and every single time Dallas Goddard's getting a three-yard pass. Like what are you doing? What is the offensive coordinator s snorting lines of coke before the game saying, we're just gonna call the same three plays on offense and hopefully we don't have to punt.

SPEAKER_00: 38:17

And like, dude, when it's the fourth quarter and AJ Brown has only got two receptions for how how many yards did he have against the Packards? 13. That is why.

SPEAKER_01: 38:29

Just why? Like, you know it's bad when Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown are calling different plays without telling the Nick Siriani or Kevin Potulla.

SPEAKER_00: 38:40

To try to get him involved. Yeah. That's how bad it is. And it's not really like it's not like AJ Brown is a scrub. He's one of the best wide receivers.

SPEAKER_01: 38:49

He's one of the best wide receivers in football. He's up there with names like Puka Nakua.

SPEAKER_00: 38:53

Amonra St. Brown.

SPEAKER_01: 38:54

St. Brown, Johnson Jefferson.

SPEAKER_00: 38:56

Yeah, like AJ Brown is probably in that same top five category with all four of those guys. And yet his numbers do not even quit.

SPEAKER_01: 39:05

In two weeks he's gonna start getting compared to Walmart Humphrey.

SPEAKER_00: 39:09

Yeah, like I wonder if Lil Jordan Humphrey has more catches on the season. No, he doesn't. AJ Brown. He just got signed on the Broncos practice squad. I saw a tweet on it. Oh my goodness. But the fact that we're even making that joke in itself is a problem. There's no reason why Lil Jordan Humphrey and AJ Brown should even be mentioned in the same sentence together, even if it's a joke. Walmart Humphrey and AJ and Walmart Brown at this point. There's no reason why we should be comparing the two of them. And yet here we are, and we're able to probably compare their numbers. And I would assume that AJ Brown is better. His numbers are better, but they're probably not better by that much. Like Lil Jordan Humphrey in that one game against the Eagles had what? Like six catches, 76 yards, or something like that?

SPEAKER_01: 39:58

Lil Jordan Humphrey has four receptions this season.

SPEAKER_00: 40:01

Oh yeah, four. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 40:02

Yeah. So A.J. Brown is 31, so he does beat the reception battle.

SPEAKER_00: 40:06

What's the yardage looking like for Lil Jordan Humphrey? 55. 55. I wonder, has AJ Brown Yeah, AJ Brown's gotten 55 in a game.

SPEAKER_01: 40:15

AJ Brown's played 55 in a game. Yeah, and against the Vikings he got 120. Okay. Against the Rams, he got a hundred. Against at the Giants, he got eighty. So it's not like these numbers are inconsistent all year. Extremely inconsistent. 27, 7, 43, 13, 2 receptions, two receptions, one reception, five receptions, six receptions.

SPEAKER_00: 40:41

Like if there's if he's getting two or less, or like three or less than that a game, that is just complete mismanagement by the by the offense. Mismanagement, yeah, blasphemy. Yeah, complete mismanagement and blasphemy by the offense right there. Like I don't know who place the blame on. I feel like the blame has to go all around.

SPEAKER_01: 41:06

Blame has to go on the coaches, I feel like, because the coaches are the ones that are calling the plays, and when you're sitting there, Hurts and Brown calling a different play that the coordinator is telling you to do, just shows like that something's wrong with the coaches that he's like, man.

SPEAKER_00: 41:21

I also blame Jalen, though. Because Jalen has come out and said multiple times, not anything about AJ, but he's come out and said that he's more he he doesn't like to take the big risks.

SPEAKER_01: 41:35

Yeah, he couldn't. He's a more conservative type of player. It's the conservative that they're showing. It's not just these teams. Right. But it's like what how you're being conservative when Dallas Goddard is the leading receiver. What's more what's so conservative about a three-yard catch every single time you're driving, you're supposed to be driving down the field with a minute left. Well, that is conservative. It's conservative. But they need to take some goddamn risk. I guess Hertz has a very good 16 to 1 touchdown to INT ratio. And that's because of how he play he plays so conservative. But if if it's a crucial spot where they need to get immediate points, and Brown's getting double covered in the end zone, and Hertz has time to throw it, I'm assuming needs to go for Brown because AJ Brown is that good that he would probably be able to get a pass and double coverage for a touchdown.

SPEAKER_00: 42:30

I agree. It's just that Jalen doesn't seem to have that same confidence because he doesn't throw in the ball in those situations. You know, like and I don't know if that is by play design or if that is on Jalen. Maybe it's a little bit of both. Because I don't know if Jalen has if if Jalen's listening to the coordinator all that time or whatever. And I know that he does have a little bit of of autonomy to change plays at the line of scrimmage, but you know, like when he is changing those plays, is he trying to get AJ Brown involved when he's changing stuff for the line of scrimmage, or was that just a one-off thing at the end of the game last week?

SPEAKER_01: 43:08

I don't know. That might become like a new thing, right? If there could be a play like if Hertz just calls a play in the huddle, like, all right, AJ, we're gonna the the coordinator told me to do this, but now we're gonna do this, so you're gonna get open, and then I got you touchdown.

SPEAKER_00: 43:23

Now, I do think the reason why they ran the specific play they did at the end of the game was because they ran that play previously in the season and it worked. Remember AJ Brown's catch, it was like a third and eight against the Rams. It was against Minnesota, right? Yeah, Minnesota where he catches that like 48-yard pass and he toe taps and then he just goes down.

SPEAKER_01: 43:49

Yeah, they were thinking they could probably replicate that versus Breen Bay. Well, it didn't look well organized.

SPEAKER_00: 43:54

No, and I think that the reason maybe is because Jalen may have thought there was a blitz coming when there wasn't one. Because that's the reason why he was able to beat the Vikings. I could see that fourth down. Yeah, you're thinking there's a blitz coming because the fourth and eight, they're gonna try to get on the bottom. Michael Parsons is coming at you like a freight train. Right. So logically it does make sense of oh well, they're gonna be, you know, coming straight after me. There's gonna be less guys in the secondary. I can just throw this ball up and have AJ Brown fall underneath it and go catch it. Because that's kind of how it worked in the Minnesota game. And I assume that Jalen was of a similar thinking mindset that they were gonna be blitzing him and it was gonna be like a zero blitz.

SPEAKER_01: 44:38

I definitely think that too. They might honestly even do that against the Lions as well. Yeah. Where it could be like a fourth and four. Right. And they might be like, hey, they're gonna blitz, so let's take a shot here. What if it's fourth and four at the 50-yard line? Maybe you know Hertz just lobs one up to AJ Brown. What if he gets, you know, 20 yards? Even then, you're at the 30. Even if you don't get into the end zone, you're still that's still goal range for that. That's definitely doable for Jake Elliott.

SPEAKER_00: 45:05

Now, I'm not sitting here trying to defend the play, because I still think that it was very stupid that they even went for it on fourth down.

SPEAKER_01: 45:12

I think it was stupid too.

SPEAKER_00: 45:13

There was what, 36 seconds left in the game? Yeah. Just punt the ball.

SPEAKER_01: 45:17

Taking the delay of game, go back five yards, punt the ball, and they're maybe at what?

SPEAKER_00: 45:21

Like the five to ten yard line? Yeah, they're at their fifty. They're at their 20.

SPEAKER_01: 45:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 45:26

Like if you kick it out of the back of the end zone, at worst they're at the 20-yard line.

SPEAKER_01: 45:29

The Packers are gonna drive down the field with 30 seconds left with no timeouts.

SPEAKER_00: 45:33

Yeah. Like, so I that that whole thing kind of confused me. I don't think that it was a smart play by any stretch of the imagination. I do understand why they chose that play in that moment. I just don't think it was smart.

SPEAKER_01: 45:49

I don't think it was smart either.

SPEAKER_00: 45:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 45:51

But the only thing that we can say is that they came out with the win.

SPEAKER_00: 45:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 45:56

It's not gonna i if they play like this against the Lions, they are not winning. And everyone should know that from the fan base approaches to everybody. If the defense plays like that again, I mean they might. If yes, if the defense does, but what if the offense can't score any points? What if it's zero zero into the fourth quarter this time half time?

SPEAKER_00: 46:15

Yeah, I have a good point. But y you would expect if the defense is able to play like that again, then this team should be able to at least score enough points like 14 or 20 just to be able to get them the win, or at least you would hope.

SPEAKER_01: 46:30

It's not like the but I feel I they need to come out. The offense needs to be coming out on all four cylinders if they're gonna have the entire offensive lineback because everyone is practicing. Yep. The receivers, the running backs, the tight ends, the quarterback. If the offense is full cylinder, everyone on the m roster today is practicing and healthy.

SPEAKER_00: 46:51

You're expecting better performance.

SPEAKER_01: 46:55

But if we see the same bullshit from last week, uh they're not going to win this game. And it it's not gonna get any easier, I don't feel like. Actually, they play Dallas after they play Dallas, they play Dallas and then Chicago. But Chicago, I feel like Chicago could be like a tough game too, but I at the same time, I feel like the Bears, they just scraped out wins against bad defenses like the Giants and the Bengals. I mean, we should be able to hold the Bears in check.

SPEAKER_00: 47:22

I mean, the Bears have kind of eked out wins in the same way that the Eagles have. They've eked out wins, but they've they've barely hold they've barely clung on, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 47:30

They've barely clung on and against bad defenses like the Giants. So they ended up allowing the Bengals to score 40 plus points. I mean, the Bengals with old Joe Flacco running things at quarterback.

SPEAKER_00: 47:41

I think that the Bears are this year's version of the Vikings last year. They're the NFC's paper tiger so far this season. They're a team that maybe is on the up that hasn't really played many good competition, so they've been able to stack up wins and make their record make them look better than what they truly are. You know what I mean? So even though they are they're what, like eight and two? They're six and three. Okay, six and three.

SPEAKER_01: 48:10

So their wins have they've who have they beat? Raiders, Giants, Bengals. I mean, those are three terrible teams. Who else have they beat?

SPEAKER_00: 48:20

Even when the Bengals have borough, they're not necessarily a great team. The Cowboys? The Cowboys aren't a good team. No. Did they beat Washington? These are all 500 to sub-500 teams, you know? So I'm not worried about the Chicago Bears. And same with Dallas. I'm not worried about Dallas at all. Yeah. But you would think that with Detroit coming in here, that hopefully the Eagles offense will look a little bit better. If they do have everyone back and healthy, as long as Jurigans is gonna play and you got the full strength, you would expect a much better performance than what you than what you saw last week. And one thing I will say is I think that Jalen Hurts' fumble got into his head a little bit last week. The fact that he fumbled on the first drive, I think, may have influenced how conservative they were the entire rest of the game.

SPEAKER_01: 49:13

He should have just shook it off and just realized, all right, it's only the first quarter, we still have 75% of the game left to play. I agree. No score the defense is playing good. We can get out there and be a little bit more aggressive.

SPEAKER_00: 49:27

I agree. I'm just saying from Jalen's perspective, he's probably sitting there thinking, we just had a 16-play drive, eight and a half minutes shoot up, and we didn't get anything because I turned the ball over. I can't turn the ball over again this game and have that happen again.

SPEAKER_01: 49:45

Yeah, I I agree with that too.

SPEAKER_00: 49:47

So I feel like there was a lot of contributing factors that went into the offense not looking as good as it should. And I think that had a big deal to do with it too.

SPEAKER_01: 49:57

That's I think Hertz should just that one thing Hertz should just have done is just let it slide.

SPEAKER_00: 50:02

Yeah, you wish that he would play more freely. You wish that he would play with a little bit more of that reckless abandonment. It's just that's not the type of guy that Jalen is.

SPEAKER_01: 50:11

It's not, but we'll we'll have to see against the Slides defense. We'll see. We'll finally test Hertz's freeness with a full healthy offense.

SPEAKER_00: 50:20

And this one will be Sunday night. Probably one of the biggest and the most anticipated matches of the year for the Eagles.

SPEAKER_01: 50:26

Could be. Could be an NFC championship game.

SPEAKER_00: 50:27

Who knows? So looking forward to it, man.

SPEAKER_01: 50:30

But on to basketball. Sixers have gone two-and-one since we last recorded. They've beat the Toronto Raptors, and they beat the Boston Celtics, both in pretty close games.

SPEAKER_00: 50:42

They hated Boston Celtics.

SPEAKER_01: 50:44

They are two-and-one against Boston this season. Hell yeah. And they ended up losing to the Pistons between those two wins. Uh Tyrese Maxy still looks phenomenal. Still the leading scorer and scorer in the NBA. 31 against Toronto, 33 in Detroit, 22 against Boston.

SPEAKER_00: 51:02

And I mean, he's just been fantastic basically throughout every facet of the game. I mean, I've seen him come up with blocks, I've seen him come up with steals, seen him have good passing. The only thing that I don't really see him doing is rebounding too much, but are you really expecting your 6'1 guy to be a rebounder?

SPEAKER_01: 51:21

We should not be having him as like a full uh five-tool player. No, but he's he's been phenomenal. That's what your seven foot two center is supposed to be. But that's what uh a sore knee now from Joel. Opposite knee. Yeah, that's the thing that's really troubling. That's opposite knee he got surgery, and now it's sore.

SPEAKER_00: 51:46

It's it's it's overcompensating. You know, when one appendage goes down, the other appendage has to work harder to make up for that lack of strength, and that's usually how these types of injuries happen. Like there was a really interesting, I'm gonna break away for a little bit here. I'm gonna keep it quick though. There was a really interesting like sports science thing that I saw, I think, last year, and the target of it was Christian Watson, because he gets hurt a decent amount of times. Yeah, and he's recovering right now from torn ACL. Right. So one of the things that they were going over was something about your muscle strength on both sides of your body, right? And what they found out was Christian Watson's left calf is 20% smaller or like 20% shorter than his right calf. And because of that, his right calf kept getting hurt because of the fact that the left calf couldn't keep up. Does that make sense? That's that's interesting. That's yeah, his his calf muscle on his right leg is 20% larger than his calf muscle on his left leg. Yeah, that is that is quite so for his explosiveness, he was completely and solely relying on that right leg. And now after so many times, it's now burnt out. It's burnt out, and that's what led to the ACL.

SPEAKER_01: 53:10

Right. You think that's the same thing that's with Joel? Potentially, yeah. The knee could be just be so worn out.

SPEAKER_00: 53:17

And they've said it's a degenerative knee condition. So if it's a degenerative knee condition, he's losing percentage of muscle mass and all that stuff around that knee. That means the other knee now has to make up for the fact that this one can't support all that weight anymore. This one doesn't have the same explosiveness that the other leg does. So now the other leg has to work twice as hard to make up for the inefficient leg. And I think that may be something that's happening here with Joel. So I told you I was gonna go off, but I can't, you know, kept it.

SPEAKER_01: 53:51

No, that's fine, that's fine. But it's fascinating.

SPEAKER_00: 53:55

Yeah, and that I'm not saying that that 100% is what's going on here. I just wonder to myself, like that might have something.

SPEAKER_01: 54:01

It could be a leading factor as to Joel's problems because he's currently uncertain for the foreseeable future. Yeah. What if he has to take another extended period of time again where he has to sit out for 20 to 30 games again?

SPEAKER_00: 54:17

And I mean, what if it's just the thing that happened last year where there's no structural damage, but for some reason the swelling just won't go down? Because that's what happened last year.

SPEAKER_01: 54:25

Then he's gonna have to get surgery. They uh the who knows? Like, what if they honestly send him to medical retirement? I mean, that's a possibility.

SPEAKER_00: 54:36

It's a real possibility. And it's a possibility for not just the fact that he now has this other leg issue that he's dealing with. So now that's both legs in the same exact year. And at what point is a seven foot-two guy just gonna be like, yo, my legs can't do this anymore? Like I want to be able to walk when I'm fifty years old. Yeah, like he doesn't want to end up like Ronnie Coleman. Like he doesn't want to end up in a wheelchair or some shit. Like, I mean, we can sit here and criticize whatever we want to. I don't think anyone would want to sit there and put their legs on the line if it meant that in 15 years you can't walk again.

SPEAKER_01: 55:18

Yeah, especially just to get bounced in the second round like that.

SPEAKER_00: 55:22

Like, there's there's no guarantee that he would even win anything if he were to stay on and have his legs take all this beating that they do. So I I wouldn't blame him if he came out and was like, guys, this is just too much for me to deal with at this point. Like, I have swelling in my left knee, I've got swelling in my right knee. It literally hurts for me to walk, let alone run and play basketball. At a certain point, the human element does come into it, and it's like, at what point am I just gonna be done with all this pain? You know, it's concerning. Athletes can only grit it out so much.

SPEAKER_01: 55:56

Yeah, you can't it's not like he's a robot.

SPEAKER_00: 55:58

Right. It's not like he's got no emotions. I mean, he's he he feels pain just like everyone else does. And what are they gonna give him AI-generated legs? They're gonna 3D print him a new leg and they're just gonna attach it on there with a strap and just be like, all right, Joel, go on out there. But even with Joel out, the team does still look pretty good in his absence. They're still winning because obviously they're still 7-4.

SPEAKER_01: 56:27

You have the fa excellence of Tyrese Maxie. Yeah, you got Vijay Edgecombe providing some really good defense, Quentin Grimes being a significant factor off of the bench.

SPEAKER_00: 56:36

Kelly Ubre's kind of been kind of like a Swiss Army knife for you a little bit. He's been scoring, rebounding.

SPEAKER_01: 56:42

Bona and Drummond still still getting it.

SPEAKER_00: 56:45

And Bona looks like he is when they run that that really fast offense, Bona can keep up with it. Bona can keep up with it. Bona's at he's got a lot more athleticism than I thought he did. I I kind of like it when he's out there on the floor as opposed to Andre Drummond. I don't know if you feel the same way.

SPEAKER_01: 57:01

You also got like more key players like Edwards, Justin Edwards, Watford, who else is Watford's been playing good.

SPEAKER_00: 57:09

Watford, Jabari Walker. And Quentin Grimes has been extremely efficient with the shots that he has taken. Like, over the past three games, the the three games that we're really breaking down, he's shooting 56 from the field and 46 from three. That's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01: 57:28

That's 50% from three points three.

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Basically mid-range right there. Like that's insane. That's phenomenal. And you're getting that from a guy that is your sixth man coming off the bench.

SPEAKER_01: 57:39

Like I thought he was going to have like a little decline because he waited so long for a deal. He never got one. He took the qualifying offer. I mean, he obviously kept his body in game. He kept his body in yes, he did keep keep his body in shape, looked really good in the preseason, and now just comes out even looking really better. And if he keeps this up, he'll definitely be getting that contract that he's been asking for.

SPEAKER_00: 58:02

Oh yeah. And unfortunately, I don't think it's gonna be with the Sixers.

SPEAKER_01: 58:07

No, with all that with all the bullshit that they have to pay and stuff, there's no way. No.

SPEAKER_00: 58:12

Unless So enjoy Quentin Grimes while you can, ladies and gentlemen, because he's not gonna be able to be able to retain him. And although we haven't seen, you know, McCain come back or Paul George come back yet. What they have right now is really good. Yeah, right now McCain is currently in triple. Delaware, right?

SPEAKER_01: 58:32

Yeah, Delaware.

SPEAKER_00: 58:33

Yeah, he's doing a rehab thing with the blue coats right now.

SPEAKER_01: 58:35

Yeah, which is good. And then they said Paul George is in like the latter stage of his recovery, so he he'll probably back, I'll assume maybe like December. Yeah, late November, early December. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 58:47

And McCain might even be back as early as next week. You know, McCain might be back.

SPEAKER_01: 58:51

Because he was getting minutes even in like the games against Toronto and Chicago and stuff. He just wasn't getting any like points and stuff down, so they're just letting him go to triple A to work on their letting skills and you know score.

SPEAKER_00: 59:05

Well, plus for him just to get, you know, re-acclimated. Yeah, exactly. Just to get more re-acclimated, too. Because remember, this is a guy that hasn't played basketball in what, ten months now?

SPEAKER_01: 59:16

Yeah. So it's it's hard, especially. It's gonna be a little rusty. Especially even with all the with all the physical therapies I had to do and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00: 59:22

Oh yeah. So I I'm not really concerned about it. I think that he'll be fine. He's probably gonna play two, maybe three games for the Blue Coats before he comes back up here. So I would expect to have him up probably by next week. Next week, yeah. Against games against Pistons, Clippers, Raptors. Ooh, Clippers, you get to see Harden. And then when this team's at full strength, and you got McCain and you got Paul George, and you're able to, you know, do a little bit more versatility with some things because you have more players available, then this team, in theory, should get even better. And Even though Paul George didn't have a great season last year, this was a guy that we were all very happy about when he originally signed here with the Sixers, right? I mean, I think I was one of the guys that was kind of like iffy on it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:13

Oh no, I was not happy when he signed the contract. But there were a lot of guys that were happy.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:17

There were a lot of Sixers fans that were happy, but me and you, we weren't really the No, we were we were ahead of the curve on that one where we were like, dude, are are we really happy about signing a 34-year-old to a to a next contract? Yeah, next contract that he's not gonna end his contract until he's 38? Like, is that really what we're getting really excited about here? But you do expect them to be better when he does step out onto the court. So hopefully their record will be able to do that. Hopefully they get back to full strength and four.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:48

Hopefully they get out of the power play and get back to full strength. Yeah. Yeah. The Flyers have lost their last two games to didn't look great either. Canada teams, Ottawa and Edmonton. And they should have beat Edmonton, and Owen Tippett was offside. Yeah. Just chilling offside, beach chair and umbrella on the ice, and I think it was Travis Connect who scored that goal with 23 seconds left, and then they called it for off the ice allowed it. The game went into the three on three, and about a minute in, Edmonton just immediately drove down the field and scored. No, not the field, the ice.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:27

And even though they their record is still not like a bad record by any means, you are starting to see some cracks. Some problems. Yeah, that you didn't really see the first couple of games of the season that you're now starting to see. And I don't know if you heard Rick Tockett's comment that he came out and said, I believe it was after the Ottawa game. He said in an interview that the Flyers right now are just playing the easy ice. And that they're not.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:57

No, that's not a good thing to say at all. That's not a rigging endorsement from your coach.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:02

The easy ice, like they're only interested in playing the easy ice.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:06

You don't tell the media that the Flyers are playing soft and conservative. Like, that's basically what he said. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:12

It's basically saying like, oh, the Flyers are playing like the Eagles. They're like basically he said no one on this team is tough enough right now. And it's like, whoa, dude.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:22

Which kind of which I feel like would be.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:26

That would definitely rub some people the wrong way within the locker.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:32

No. And I'm just trying to think of a word that's like the opposite of boost. I mean decline.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:37

Yeah, I guess. Decline the morale. Like it's that's not exactly something that you want to hear from your coach. Especially like eight games in the game.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:46

It's not something you tell your players, yeah. Early into the season. So especially with people that have had slow starts like Matt Vemishkov.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:53

Yeah, who I mean, he's in a sophomore season. You hear all the time. See, here all the time. Rest of the league is able to adjust, and they got a full year of tape on you now. It's not just the NFL that has it, it's every other league too. So it doesn't matter where you are, it doesn't matter if you're baseball, hockey, whatever. Once people got tape on you, they're gonna start to figure you out. And right now he's having a hard time being able to adjust to the other team's adjustments. Does that make sense when I said that? Yeah. That'll slide. Okay. Like he's he needs to do he needs to figure out some way to counteract how defenses are now prepared for him. That's probably a better way to put it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:43

Yeah, more so. One person who has done that has been Trevor Ziegris, who has been lights out of the gate for the Flyers. Yeah, 16 points and 16 games. 16 points, really good in the shootouts, which the Flyers are pretty much the shootout.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:00

Notoriously in.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:01

Flyers are the shootout merchants. I'm surprised that the games you even go to over time, just take it straight to the shootout.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:07

And Trevor Ziegris has definitely been a nice infusion that you needed to see into this team. And he's gotten them a lot of point production. But his defense has not really been great. I know that he's not a defenseman.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:22

He's not a defenseman, yeah. He's a four.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:24

You still want to at least get uh some defense out of him. And you would expect that him having 16 points in 16 games, he would have a a positive plus-minus. He actually has a negative, he's a negative two. Because of the defense? Because of the fact that he doesn't really give the team a whole lot defensively. It's basically a five on four while he's out there. And if you're playing in a five-on-four for multiple stretches of the game, that's you're not gonna win. That's power plays, right? Yeah, exactly. That's power plays essentially, even though you have a fifth guy on the ice. So if his defense is able to just improve marginally, then you're gonna start to see this team look a lot better by the fact that, hey, it's no longer a five-on-four on defense.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:15

It's like the guy that gets chosen last to play. It's like the yeah, the guy that gets chosen always last in either football or street hockey or whatever, because he's so bad. It's like, uh, it's basically just a three on five four on three or a five on four because he doesn't contribute contribute anything to the team.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:31

Or like when you're a pitcher and you see Johan Rojas is gonna be in the three batters coming up, you're like, all right, well, I got one guaranteed out right there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:39

Johan Rojas, Nick Casdianos.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:41

I just gotta get two more because there's one L that's staring me right in the face. Right here.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:44

Yeah, yeah, Johan Rojas and Nick Asdianos and Otto Kemp.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:48

It's just like, oh, that's an easy one, two, three inning for me. So, who yeah, you know, I I do imagine that Tacket will get him playing more intensely on defense. And I feel like maybe the easy ice was a little bit of a kind of a thing for directed at Ziegress without saying his name. By the fact that, like, yeah, he's willing to sit there and get the goals and get the, you know, the glory of the goals, and but he's not willing to sit there and do the dirty work on defense. So I don't know if that message from Tocket was specifically for the whole team, or if that was just kind of supposed to be only for Trevor Zegris to hear.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:33

It could be for the whole team, but who who really knows? Who knows if the players are listening to the interviews?

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:38

Yeah. I mean, you would imagine that they would imagine if they would think about it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:41

You would imagine that they would because media goes everywhere nowadays. Yeah. It's not like we're just writing notes on a piece of paper sending out in a letter. No. Social media is taking over the entire world.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:53

And when you do get the people that are on social media that, you know, come after you and attack you, which, you know, that happens to it happens to everybody after every single day. Celebrities. It it doesn't necessarily it it just adds more pressure. It adds more pressure, yeah. One thing that I do want to highlight is Travis Travis Connecting has actually been probably the best player so far for the Flyers. And it has taken him a while to get to that point, but now that he is at that point, I really do like what I'm seeing. Uh he's got 14 points from 16 games. That a four goal plus minus. Which is pretty damn good for a guy that's only on the ice for about 18 minutes a time, a game. He's he's not the guy that is on the ice the most. Or at least when I looked at his minutes, I don't think he's one of the top. I don't think he's one of the guys that has 20 minutes. He's one of the guys that's under the 20 minutes. The guys that have the 20 minutes, I feel like, are you know, that's your first line guys. Who else is out there a lot?

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:04

Forster.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:05

Forster. What about Brink? Is Brink out there? Brink's out there a lot. He's out there a lot. And then I'm trying to think of who else. It's Kate's. Yeah, Cates, Forrester, Brink. Connect me is out there a lot. He is, yeah. But I found it very surprising when I looked and I was like, oh wow, he's only playing like 18 minutes ago.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:24

Flyers, players who I'm gonna search up Flyers, players who leads in minutes. Right now, yeah. Oh, wait, this is 23 to 24. Oh yeah. Right now it is Sandheim.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:33

Oh, Sandheim.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:34

Sandheim is a 25 minutes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:36

Yeah, ooh. That's a lot of minutes to be playing. To be playing hockey, dude. I know you got like short stints. It's only like you're out there for like two to three minutes at a time before the lines change, but still. 25 minutes is a pretty decent amount of time in a hockey game. So race, these are all the keepers.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:55

Sandheim, York, Drysdale, oh York and Drysdale, we forgot about. Connectni, Coots, Ziegers, Forster, Kate, Tipu, Dvorak, Brink, Mishkov. So just the regulars you see mostly out there on the ice all the time.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:10

But I feel like we were all kind of like told that Travis Keneckny was going to be this really great player, and we've been waiting for it to happen. And now it seems like it's finally happening. So if he's able to even take another step or just continue his play with how he's been, you would imagine that the team will get more consistent as they go on throughout the year. They're not exactly in a great spot, but they're not in a horrible spot either.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:42

They're not in a horrible spot. They're not like dead last fighting for the division. They're in a more reasonable spot currently in fifth place. Yeah. They have looked better than what they have looked in previous years.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:54

And they're only six points out, you know? Yeah. You get one win, you cut that in half. You get one regulation win.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:01

One regulation win. No, you cut that by 40%. Because it's two points. It's two points. I thought regulation wins were three. It's two points. And overtime's over. Overtime is two and a point for just overtime lost.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:16

Now when you when you win in a shootout, is that the same as winning in overtime?

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:20

You still get two points? The win in regulation shootout or overtime is two points. Okay, okay. And then the getting two overtime guarantees you the point. Even if you still lose.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:29

Even if you still lose, yeah. Right. But you know, you get one regulation win and you go from six to four, and I'm pretty sure that you're gonna face the devils two more times, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:43

I mean you're fifth in the division and you're only six points back. It's not like you're eighth in the division letting up three goals every single period. It's just like you're showing you're showing some more you're showing some fight.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:56

And speaking of goals, Vladar has been fantastic in net. He's been absolutely amazing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:03

Vladar, yeah, he's been very very good. Both of them, Ayerson and Vladar have been good during the shootouts as well.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:11

And I don't think I wrote it in here like for Vladar, his but I think his he's averaging under two goals a game allowed. It's like 1.94. It has gone up recently. But I mean, any time that you're a goalie and you're holding the other team to under two goals, you're expecting to win that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:35

So even if they're like good teams, too.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:38

And it's not like Vladar was brought in here as like this, you know. He was brought in here to what? Basically be Erson's backup to spell or Erson, and he's pretty much completely taken over that role from him. So he's given at least me a lot more than what I expected that I would get from him. So I don't know how long he's gonna continue to play like this. Because he's he's been fantastic. He's been one of the best goalies in the entire National Hockey League, which we haven't been able to say about any Flyers goalie for the past couple of seasons. Probably since like Garner Hart. Yeah. So if you're able to have him continue to play at this level, this team is going to end up in a playoff spot, I think.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:20

If they can start, if they can score goals too.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:22

And they have the goal scores as well.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:24

Yeah. And they do have the names that you would imagine that they can start to pick up the pace with the goals. It's just when do they start to?

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:32

When do yeah. When do they all cylinders? They have the fire cloud, when will it connect?

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:38

And then before we wrap it up, you want to Yeah, one last thing is the union will play NYC in the semifinals. That's Sunday the 23rd at 7.45. So right after the Eagles play the Cowboys that day at 4 o'clock, you can switch and watch the union.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:53

And hang on, before you get to the schedule, I just want to gripe about this real quick. Why would you set up an international break in the middle of the playoffs? That's why they're not playing until the 25th.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:03

Yeah, which is dumb. I don't know why they want to set up the international break. I guess maybe like I underst uh it's World Cup qualifying still. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:12

Which I understand like if countries union are going three weeks in between games because of this.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:16

Yeah, which is odd. But maybe I I'm thinking it's just because it's World Cup qualifying and you have country since it's what four it's I think it's forty-eight teams now or something like that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:27

Yeah, I think it's forty-eight. And I think they might even expand it again in the next one.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:40

You take them and play for their national team, they're trying to qualify for a World Cup. Right. So that's probably why, because a lot of people do care about their nation.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:49

Everyone cares about the World Cup. Even here in America, where we don't really pay attention to soccer like for three and a half years up until the World Cup comes around. Yeah. But I just wanted to just mention that I thought that was really weird before we get to the schedule.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:06

But yeah, there's getting rid of MLS season pass first. Yeah, which is thank goodness. Yeah, so just normal Apple TV subscription gives you that MLS baseball.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:18

Which honestly heard me say this before. If you're trying to attract people to the game, why are you putting it behind two payrolls? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:26

Apple listened. And honestly, that might uh that might encourage me to get Apple TV now. Yeah. Just because uh the Phillies are probably gonna play a couple of games on Friday night, at least. Which are gonna be behind a payroll. And then I can watch uh the union games without having to pay an extra sixty dollars, and I can also watch the library of shows they have because I know there's some pretty good.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:50

They do have some good stuff on there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:52

One of my favorite shows actually is uh Apple TV plus show. It's called uh Slow Horses. It's fantastic if anyone's out there that hasn't listened, you know, hasn't watched it and you have Apple TV. Highly recommend it. Not gonna give anything away about it, just highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:08

No. Alright. Well, there's your there's your recommendation right there. But that's what I like about MLS. I think I feel like more streaming services should adjust to that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:19

Yeah. I mean, if they have a partnership with Apple TV already, why do you need to put it behind another paywall? Exactly. You're already getting paid enough by Apple to host your games. You don't need to make another paywall.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:30

You're giving Messi a damn share of Apple because of it, too.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:32

Yeah. Which honestly, he probably deserves that. He probably does, yeah. How many fans do you think he's brought to watch MLI soccer? So millions. Honestly, give him like 50% of it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:45

Like it's worth it. And now with the schedule format, they're aligning with the top European leagues.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:54

Yes, and that I'm really looking forward to.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:58

That's a really good adjustment.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:00

And I know we don't really have much time to like get into it, but I just want to highlight two things that I think are going to be very beneficial by this schedule change. And that is number one, you're gonna be able to sell players for a lot more money. The MLS has not been able to really sell players for high money due to the fact that every time it comes around where the European teams are wanting the MLS players, they're obviously going to the better teams. If you're LAFC, you're not gonna give up your best player while you're in the middle of a playoff push, while you're in the middle of a playoff run. You're trying to win the MLS Cup. You're not gonna sell away your best player in the middle of the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:48

But when it's the offseason and it's the transfer window for other European clubs, they can go and look at an MLS talent that's been thriving. It's like, oh, we can pick him up. He's not playing. Right. I'm sure that player would be like, ooh, I get to get more playing time.

SPEAKER_00: 1:17:01

Yeah. And the other thing that I think is you're gonna see increase is the amount of young budding stars that are going to come to the MLS for this. Because the MLS is not a bad league by any stretch, but one thing that the MLS has always been very, I guess, known for is the physicality of the league. And the physicality of the MLS is very comparable to the physicality of either the Premier League or German Bundesliga, in the fact that there's a lot of big, strong guys that play in the MLS. They might not have the best best athleticism, but if you look at defenders in the MLS, they're all aerial, they're all big, tall, strong. And those are things that no matter what club you go to, if you're at a gigantic club like Manchester United or Arsenal or Barcelona, you're gonna be going up against that type of defender. The type of defender that can jump, that can muscle you off the ball, that can do all these different things physically just because he's a brute. And I do think because of the way the MLS defends and that style, you're gonna see young players coming over from big clubs to get more acclimated to that style of play before they play it in their own.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:34

Here's an example. Endric from Real Madrid is basically hidden behind all the talent on there. He's a striker with a bunch of talent who went to Madrid for the money and he hasn't got a lot of playing time. He's now about to go over to France on loan so he can get more playing time. So that's the thing with MLS. If you take a 15-year-old or 16, 17-year-old superstar that might not be good enough for his own league. That is on a big squad like Madrid, Arsenal, Barcelona, that is stuck in the like the Barcelona two team or stuck in train. Yeah, like they're just buried in the depth train. Or the under-21s. Like bring him here to MLS, he gets more playing time, and maybe who knows refines his skills and could get a big payday from either the club that is have has him on loan or the by going back to his original club and potentially being sold.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:28

Big European club. Who knows? Whatever. But that is two things that I really think you're gonna see a very positive change for.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:39

Those two moves that MLS made are absolutely fantastic for the league. It's gonna it's definitely gonna drive in way more fans to the MLS.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:46

Aaron Powell And I wonder how immediate of an impact it's gonna have. Like I wonder if in that first inaugural season where they line up with the European teams, if we see more European players come in.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:57

Because we're already seeing European players come in now, but sometimes they're like a little bit of Celtic shack. And sometimes they're playing at the end of their career. Yeah, coming at the latter year of the career. Yeah. MLS are getting playing time, but who knows if we could see European players, not like top European players, but European players in different leagues, like the Turkish, Italian, France League that are coming over.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:23

And like you could potentially have a young photon or something like that that's playing for, you know, the union or whoever the team is, right? And if you start to get a lot of those younger type of players in here, that's going to number one connect with younger fans watching the game, and it's gonna be very good for the sport here by the fact that you're gonna have young people getting more interested. Young people will now want to start to play soccer more, and hopefully you'll get a better selection from the player pool, which will help the United States in the world stage. It's also gonna give Apple more money.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:02

Oh, yeah, so that they don't have to worry about throwing MLS behind a paywall.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:06

Yeah, so overall I'm I'm happy with it, and I'm excited to see how the league does with it. Yep. Just thinks that we gotta wait two freaking four years.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:15

At least it's playoffs. At least it's playoffs right now. Yeah. But um that's that's gonna do it on this Friday, the 14th, not the 13th. And um let's just hope that the Eagles can improve their craft against this Lions team. If they if they look really good against this Lions team, then maybe I'll have some um hope going into Dallas. Just get AJ Brown the damn ball.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:43

Get AJ Brown the damn ball. Tired of him complaining, just get him the damn ball. Just get AJ Brown the damn ball, get Joel Lambead healthy. I don't even care if it's a wide receiver screen at this point, just throw him the freaking ball. Just throw him the damn ball.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:56

But we'll have the Eagles recap of the game against the Lions um next week, wherever you get your podcast, and we'll see y'all next week.