Episode 31 - Inside Richmond: The City's Pulse | What Was Inside Richmond's Time Capsule?

A red, white, and blue safe buried beneath concrete for 50 years. A plaque counting down to July 4, 2026. On July 4, 2026, Richmond's Bicentennial time capsule was finally opened, revealing a remarkable collection of everyday history that had been waiting half a century to be seen again.

On Episode 31 of Inside Richmond, we welcome Richmond Mayor Ron Oler and Sue King, archivist at the Morrisson-Reeves Library, to share the incredible story behind Richmond's 1976 Bicentennial time capsule. From locating the capsule and breaking through concrete to discovering the original combination had been lost, they take us behind the scenes of what it really took to bring this piece of history back into the light. What could have been a simple ceremony became a fascinating lesson in preservation, planning, and why documenting history matters just as much as preserving it.

Once the safe was opened, the real adventure began. Inside were letters written to the people of 2026, newspapers from July 4, 1976, a preserved Rose City rose, a TV Guide, a GTE telephone book, and dozens of other items that captured everyday life during America's Bicentennial. We also explore Richmond's even older time capsules, including an 1886 cornerstone discovery, a powerful Grand Army of the Republic letter connected to Civil War General and former Richmond Mayor Thomas W. Bennett, and a historic sword that is now on display.

If you enjoy local history, genealogy, fascinating stories from Richmond's past, or simply want to see how one community preserved a moment in time for the next generation, this episode offers a unique look at the people, artifacts, and stories that continue to shape Richmond's history.

Transcript

Welcome And The Big Reveal

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Welcome back to another episode of Inside Richmond the City's Pulse. I'm Lindsay Darnell, your host, and today we are going to be talking about some exciting things, the 1976 bicentennial time capsule that was just opened up on 4th of July. And joining me today, I have Mayor Oler.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Hello, Lindsay. Thanks for having me on today. This is going to be an exciting podcast. Yes. Probably one of the best ones we've ever had.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Thank you. And then I also have Sue King, the archivist at Morrison Reeves Library. Sue, thank you for joining me.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

So I really wanted to get you on here, Sue, because you are really our local historian, kind of a hobby of yours, I would imagine. And then working at the library. A job.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

Literally, it's my job, yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

Um, so you are just full of knowledge of everything Richmond. Um, so today we are going to be talking about the 1976 time capsule, but you actually have some items from a time capsule way before then, um, a little over 110. It was 110 years prior. Um, so first we'll talk about the 1976 time capsule because that was opened on July 4th during Freedom Jam uh that was presented by G101.3 at Roosevelt Hill at Glen Miller Park. Um, a lot of interesting items are in here. Uh, Mary, would you like to kind of tell us a little bit about what was inside?

Unearthing The Capsule At City Hall

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Yes, and how we got here. So earlier this spring, we were at staff, we were walking around City Hall and we were looking at stuff and planning what we're going to do this spring. And I said, Oh, by the way, you see this plaque, oops, you see this plaque over my shoulder. By the way, we're supposed to open the bicentenal time capsule on July 4th of 2026. That's this year. So we need to figure out how to get that thing out of the ground and open it. And then we, after some meetings along the way, I met with Rick Duncan. We were talking about Freedom Jam. We decided to actually present it there to the public for the first time and then follow up with this and then follow up with the museum. But kind of set the stage, we we got the plaque off and discovered that yes, that there had been some concrete underneath it. So our staff took a hammer and chisel and it looked like mortar mix. So this is gonna be easy. We're just gonna chisel away at this for a few minutes and we'll get right down to it. And that didn't work. So then they they switched over and next day they borrowed a hammer drill from the parks department, I believe, and started chiseling away at it, and that took forever. And finally, they eventually got down to it and found they couldn't pull it out. So if you look on your City of Richmond Facebook page, you'll see a video clip. Street Department came with a backhoe, put a chain around it, and pulled it up out. And we have it behind me right here, the actual capsule. So it's a safe. It's a drop safe like you'd find in a gas station convenience store where they they put money away. Plus, it had all the bicentennial seals on it, which is really neat. And it was painted red, white, and blue. Some of the paint survived. So we were super excited when we got out of the ground because it looked really good on the outside. We know that a couple of our neighboring counties, when they pulled theirs out and opened them in public, they were destroyed and by water and time. Ours, fortunately, the the JCs who put this in the ground in 1976 had the forethought of keeping it above grade. So the top of it was above ground level and concrete, so water never really infiltrated it. But then we had another challenge,

The Missing Combo And Locksmith Fix

SPEAKER_01 3:22

didn't we?

SPEAKER_00 3:22

We did. So back in 1976, uh, Dr. George Blakey, during the time that they put the time capsule in during that ceremony, he handed off uh the president of the uh Historical Society uh an envelope with the one and only copy of the combination. Um, and it was to Don Goodwell. Uh we could not find Don Goodwell in our research. Uh, we went to the Wayne County Historical Museum to see if they might have had it in a safe, and nobody could locate this envelope with the combination. So we ended up having to go to a locksmith to have them help us, and they were very careful. They were not destructive of opening up this time capsule. Um, but it was uh Wilson's Yeson's Wilson lock and key.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

But even before that, so we had the the name of the safe, the serial number and the model number, and it's it was a combination on top, and this thing's incredibly heavy, and it's stainless. So this stood the test of time. So we guessed all the numbers it could be. We knew how to do the combination because we had instructions, and then any number that we thought it might be didn't work. So uh the company who made it has been bought out several times. Another company in California has it now. We reached out to them and paper archives had been lost, they couldn't find the combination. So if you can see the the actual holes on the side, so Wilson was familiar with this, so they were able to drill precisely and knock these pins in, carefully knock them in. So they knocked in one pin and they spun it around to knock in the next pin, but as soon as he did, the pin popped out. So they ended up drilling three equidistant holes all the way around the unit. That's heavy, and and got all three pins at the same time. And we had Ken Weber on hand, and we also had a an archivist from the museum on hand. And Ken Weber was on the original committee who planted this, and he knew some of the stuff that was in there, he remembered, but we let him pull everything out, and we were just tickled to death that everything had survived. Now it smells old. Yeah. So if you were here today when you had smell of vision, you would go, Yeah,

Letters, Newspapers, And 1976 Keepsakes

SPEAKER_01 5:30

this smells really old. Yeah. Um, but we have newspaper articles that told us a lot about it. Right. So we had an idea what was in there, but it was very kind of generic, the things that were in there.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

Um, I would say they're interesting to see as well. Um, this being 11 years prior to me being born, and and just kind of that in. It was interesting to see what was in there. Now, I do remember there were so this is one thing that Ken Weber, who was uh chairman of the Bicentennial Committee, is a TV guide. And I do vaguely remember TV guides being sent to your house when I was really little, but then they ended up going on, I think it was like channel 20, and it would just scroll, so you would have to sit there and wait for an electronic guide, yes.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

I remember going to read more and buying TV guides in newspapers and magazines. But one of the exciting things we pulled out is the letter which stood the test of time, written on a typewriter, by the way. So this is all typewritten. So this is a letter from the City of Richmond, American Revolution Bicentennial Committee, Mayor's Office, Municipal Building, Richmond, Indiana, July 4th, 1976. So the chairman of the bicentennial committee was Dr. George Blakey. Also serving on it was Thomas Reed, Joan Vygren, and Kenneth Weber. And Kenneth Weber is still with us, and he was there the day we opened it, and he was also on the stage. So I'll read you the letter. To the Wayne County Museum and the people of Richmond in the year 2026. So imagine Dr. Blakey sitting at a typewriter going, huh, to the people in the year 2026. That seems like forever into the future. And now we're here reading it thinking 1976 is forever into the past, 50 years ago. So I'll read this. This time capsule was made possible through a grant from the Hayes Research Foundation, and we have information on the Hayes Family and Research Foundation. It is situated on a site given and prepared by the Veterans Council and the City of Richmond. And its contents and preparation were supervised by the Richmond JCs and the Bicentennial Committee. We hope the collective contents will be a representative, without being exhaustive, portrait of the people of Richmond in this 200th year of American independence. Please display and preserve this fragment of 1976 with our best wishes. Sincerely, George T. Blakey Chairman. And that is so cool to have that letter. And this, that, and all these other things we're going to want to show you here today will be on display. Um you want to talk about the newspaper in front of you?

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Yes. So actually, the newspaper that came out that morning when they put the time capsule in the ground was Sunday, July 4th, 1976. This is the palladium item. Um, and so this is, you know, the the headline, the greatest fourth of July begins. So this was the 200th year anniversary of America. So they were really excited. Um, but to just kind of see international news in here, to see the prices of things on the back of the Elder Beerman ad. It was really interesting to see. Um, and you know, the prices of flip-flops too for a dollar. A short sleeve knit shirt is $5.99. Now, this is what I was really excited to see is a six-piece glider cushion set for $26.88 on sale. That is so cheap. You would see those on, I would see them on like my grandma's porch. Um, but it's really interesting. I haven't gotten a chance to actually read through this newspaper. I know you could probably find this online, but just to hold it is really neat and not see a copy or a digital copy of it. Um, another thing that I was really excited to see because the news articles that we did find um did have a list of the items in it. Um, the mustard seed of faith by Interfaith uh that was presented by Interfaith Apartments residents, I believe. Um it's just interesting to see a lot of this stuff that was in there. And then the preserved rose from the Rose City, uh Richmond, Indiana. So we were known as a city of roses and the rose festival. Um, so of course, I would imagine that's one thing that they really wanted to put in there because the Rose City, Richmond was very proud of that in that festival.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

So it's in a baby food jar. If you can see that, I don't know what they put into reserve it. We haven't opened it, but it really doesn't look that bad. It was a dark red at one time, now it's kind of brownish black, but it also has a typewritten label on the front. A preserved rose from Rose City, Richmond, Indiana in a baby food jar. How cool is that?

SPEAKER_02 10:18

Well, and the Rose Festival would have been just a couple of weeks before this. It was usually held in late June.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

So there's a flyer, there's a flyer about the Rose Festival in here and being a bicentennial, they had 200 units in the parade. And that's what I remember because I was on the float in the parade with my girlfriend. But we'll talk more about that later. But that was a really big event, probably the biggest parade ever. And then Sue has something interesting.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

Yeah, Ralph Pyle, um, if you find a an aerial photograph of Richmond anytime in the late, you know, mid to late 20th century, chances are it was a Ralph Pyle photograph. So that's what this is. This is it's got some damage to it, but it's definitely a Ralph Pyle. It's looking east. Um, you can see Swain Robinson, um the the new fair fairly new city building, the libraries there. Um so there's, you know, you're looking straight down, you know, Main Street towards the east.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

Um, you mentioned Swain Robinson, they were one of the largest employers around. They were located where the Wayne County Jail is now in the sheriff's department. So they made limited edition 1,776 trivets with the bicentennial and all the information about the bicentennial, and they sold these, and they were hot plates or trivets, and that's how they raised the money for everything that went on for that bicentennial event, the Rose Festival parade and everything that year. So it was designed by Miss June Tripp, winner of a local contest. It was patterned by Curtis Cole, a manufacturer by Charles Robinson or Swain Robinson. We have all that information. All this stuff is going to be in the museum. I think you already have one of these, but this has the typewritten information about what it is and why it's in there and why it was important to the time.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

Frankly, right now we have a small display at the library as well, because we had a lot. I know one of the the copy of the day's paper. No, it wasn't in the the cornerstone, but it um time capsule, excuse me. Um but definitely the uh the special edition. We've got I've got lots of copies of that floating around. We know we've got a trivet. Um so yeah, so if you you can't wait for the uh for the museum display, you can run down to the library and see at least a few of these things.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

We have a cracker from Richmond Baking. There's not much left. No, it's a powder, but it was it was packaged in a case. This envelope size meets all mailing requirements of current US postal regulations. So this was a case that held thank you notes that the li at the the post office sold. Eaton's thank you notes daisies, so that's pretty neat.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

And it's just really it's really amazing to see a lot of uh the history from 1976. Another thing that they put in there was a two-dollar bill. And you know, I know Sue and I were talking earlier. My grandpa collected the two dollar bills, and you know, we we always saw them when I was younger, but I actually haven't seen a two-dollar bill circulating uh in years. So it's kind of neat. And this one's really in great condition. There's no seals or creases on it, and it I mean, it's crisp. It's it looks like it was just printed.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

And it was in one of the one of the brochures, so it was protected. And it's of course series 1976, and this one on the back has a sign of the Declaration of Independence.

unknown 13:50

Right. So that's pretty awesome.

Richmond’s 1886 Cornerstone Time Capsule

SPEAKER_00 13:52

So um another thing that I I kind of want to mention is that this actually isn't the first time capsule that Richmond has had. Um, back in 1886, there was uh another time capsule, right, Sue?

SPEAKER_02 14:06

There was. Actually, there have been lots of of of time capsules. Well, time capsules slash cornerstone uh contents of cornerstones. Um one of the ones, and I what kind of jogged my memory was when uh the Sons of Union veterans came and donated. I don't know if you want to talk about that yet.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

Um you can do that first.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

Yes. So um in 1886, the City of Richmond tore down the old Warner building and cre uh built this uh kind of see. But this was the city building from 1886 through 1970-ish. Well, a little earlier than that. I'm not sure exactly. No, no. It was I mean it was damaged, yes. But the thing is, the the current city building was already under construction on the day of the explosion. So this would this was still going away anyway. It wasn't it didn't they didn't tear it down because of the explosion. Um, it just kind of coincided. But um anyway, I don't know if you can see, but the cornerstone is right down here in this you really can't see it in this uh image too well, but it is right there. And actually the cornerstone itself still exists in front of the corner current uh city building. Um it's just a big square uh facing uh north 5th Street. So there's a plaque in front of it and a plaque in front of it.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Um limestone, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Probably, yes. Um, and yes, they they put a a uh uh I guess a time capsule into the cornerstone. And there are actually in that case, because you know this was custom-made to be a time capsule, so it you know worked out a little bit better. Um whatever they used in actually in years past, they rarely worked out well. So a lot of the stuff that was in the 1886 cornerstone did not survive. But uh we do, I've got the box here. And my personal favorite thing is this letter, and as I say, it's it's not in the greatest shape, but I have encapsulated it. This is a letter from he was mayor, but he was also the Thomas W. Bennett. So he was a Civil War general. He was the general of the 69th Indiana, he was a lawyer, but he also was Richmond's mayor for five terms, uh, not consecutively. But um he was also very, very active in the Grand Army of the Republic, the GAR, which is kind of the VFW for uh Civil War veterans. And so he placed this letter into the cornerstone. And I will go ahead and read it. It's really there's there's gaps out of it, but let's see. And it's on GAR letterhead, which is which is pretty awesome as well. Um this paper is placed in the cornerstone of the new public building of the city of Richmond as memento of the grand army of the republic, of the un of the state of Indiana. Our organization, uh an organization composed only of comrades who in the oh in I'm sorry, in the war of the Great Rebellion supported with arms the cause of the Union of the States, the Constitution, and the flag of the Republic. It is an organization which doubtless will become extinct long before this paper will be read, but whose uh grand principles of fraternity, charity, and loyalty will live as long as the union lasts and as long as the memory of the defenders shall be preserved by a grateful people. T. W. Bennett Department Commander. So that's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

That's so cool. Um, another thing we were kind of talking about is the penmanship back then is amazing. Um you also have in your box from the cornerstone. You said it was from probably elementary students.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

Right. Um, in the same box, it's not it's another cornerstone, not related to any of this, but they, you know, the the museum had it it fits. So there's cornerstone from the the Sevastopol school, and in it is uh just sheafs of uh single papers, but they are letters from the students, again, elementary school kids, uh and it e they all even start with to the children of the 20th century, because that was done in 1897. And so, yes, the penmanship is all pretty regular because back then everybody was taught how to, you know, it it wasn't a you know, like even I know nobody knows cursive these days, but you know, everybody's got their own style and and you know, back then there was a certain way to write your name and the certain way to to write cursive. And so the letters are nothing like you'd see today. They're very uniform.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

I would say too, I I think I'm probably one of the last generations that you know cursive was real big and learning in school. I think it kind of went away, but now they're trying to bring it back to my understanding. I don't know if that's 100% right. Um, but it was more lax, you know. Oh, right. Learning how to write cursive. Um, so I mean, it is important for us. A lot of the historical documents are in cursive. So I think it's very important that we learn how to read cursive and write it.

SPEAKER_02 19:53

Anybody who wants to be a historian is gonna have to know cursive, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

Yes, because typewriter fonts are pretty easy to read. That's not too bad. Is there anything else we want to talk about?

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Well, do you

Civil War Legacy And The Bennett Sword

SPEAKER_00 20:04

want to kind of hold up the sword that the um so this was the William P. Benton number 28, Sons of the Union. Um, they are veterans, sorry, Sons of the Union veterans. Um, they put on loan just this week. It was on Mon Tuesday. It was on Tuesday. Um, they've loaned the sword that belonged to Thomas W. Bennett, the mayor of Richmond for five terms back in the 1800s. Um, this was his dress sword for during the Civil War, correct?

SPEAKER_01 20:37

And it's a real sword. And it has the stamp of the union up here on the hilt. It's embossed or engraved, all kinds of interesting things. The sash was actually draped over his casket. That was part of his funeral service. And they saved it. They are losing their museum, so they they're dispersing items to where they should go. So they loan this, if you will, to the city to be on display with his photograph. So his picture is on the wall in the second floor of City Hall, and you could see him and see the dates that he served. And and we'll eventually we'll put all the data together because in between serving as a mayor of Richmond, he was appointed the governor of the territory of Idaho. And I I word has it that he went out there and said there's really not much in Idaho in the late 1800s, and he came back to be the mayor of Richmond again. Actually, he was also Idaho's representative to the U.S. government. I'm not sure if it doesn't says Congress, I'm not sure it's representative or Senate. It really wasn't clear.

SPEAKER_02 21:39

I think he was a representative, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

And then for a time when he came back as mayor of Richmond, he was also president of the Indiana Pension Board.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

So just a lot of went to Again, that was that was part of the whole GAR thing, too.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

And speaking of the GAR, I looked up their history, so Guardians of the American Republic.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

Grand Army of the Republic.

SPEAKER_01 21:59

That's what I was calling. So they were only for veterans of the Civil War. And when the last one passed in 1956, they disbanded, and that's what caused the Union, Sons of the Union veterans to form. And they're still around today. And this is as you can tell, this is also quite heavy. This is a real real thing. This is not a toy you would buy.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

Yeah. It is heavy. And that's actually pretty neat to see, too, coming from the Civil War. So that's one of the things that I was excited to see when he received it on loan. But talking about time capsules, I know Sue, you said this was a really popular thing. So back in the 1800s, they didn't have material that would make a time capsule like this. So they put them in cornerstone stones of buildings. Is that how it worked? Or was it kind of just depend on the situation?

SPEAKER_02 22:57

I think it was more that's it they didn't look at it as a time capsule. I mean, as as a separate separate entity. You it was sort of a tradition to put stuff in the cornerstone. So I don't think it was a matter of I mean, yes, it's a time capsule, but in 1976 there wasn't any prominent building that was getting ready to be built. And so they they made that instead. So no, it cornerstones that's you know, you you place things in the cornerstones. That's that's just part of the um the ceremony of placing that that stone and then can continuing with the rest of the um the construction. The the city building that I mentioned before wasn't even um it was dedicated in uh January 1st, 1887. So they placed the cornerstone in June of 1886. So you know the construction was still going on.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

Um That's kind of neat, though, and yeah, that there was like ceremonies like that. Oh, absolutely from that time in the cornerstone.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

I've got lots of pictures, the Oddfellows building, I've got a photograph of that, and the the Reed Center, of course, the Reed Center and I'm getting off off track here, but the Reed Center and the Reed Memorial Hospital, because uh Daniel Reed funded both of them, both of the cornerstone laying ceremonies was held on the same day.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Uh so he could be present. That was in uh September of 1904. And if you go past the Reed Center now, you can clearly see the the you know the number 1904 right on the on the corner there. And there is there is a box in there, but nobody's it's pretty well nobody's gonna tear it down to to get the box out. There is a box there.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

But it's sealed behind the limestone. Yeah. So

Why Cornerstones Held Local History

SPEAKER_01 24:44

hard to get to. Yeah. Just like this was hard to get to. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

It's about four days it took us. Well, that's why a lot of times, you know, they those time capsule or those cornerstones, they didn't they didn't come out until they tore the building down. So that was that's what you did. So this that's why this is a little bit of a different animal than than a cornerstone.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

It was still buried in concrete, though.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

That's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

Now anything else want to talk about? There's this scroll that will be on display at the museum. So all this stuff will eventually be on display at the museum. So we want you to go out and see it. So Boy Scouts went around the city and they created a scroll of bicentennial declaration in the year of our Lord 1976. We, the undersigned citizens of Richmond, Indiana, and surrounding area do hereby dedicate ourselves to the same principles of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to which the fifty-six men who signed this declarate the Declaration of Independence 200 years ago pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. So you'll see names on here like Jaffe and Smith and Parker's and Samuels and Jirling and Whirleys and Browns. So I'm interested when this is all laid out. I haven't looked to see if my parents signed it. I don't I don't remember signing it myself. I was a preteen at the time, so maybe I did. I was not in the Richmond Boy Scouts, but I was around Beatty's and Carter's and but it's neat because these signatures have survived in really good condition. You can clearly read all of them. Has not deteriorated. Baker's, Wilson, Craig's, Maples, Delucios, of course. Yeah. Are in here, Bromballs.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

That's because there's no staples in there. The staples in all of these. So there was some water that got into it, um, but just enough to rust all the staples out.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Yes, like this, this right here, the Richmond Community Schools brochure, which I read about when we opened it on the stage. It was kind of interesting that a a teacher with a bachelor's agreed made $8,500 a year. And Joan Vigorin, who's also on the bicentennial council, was a school board member at the time. So a lot of the same people were active in different groups. And here we have, in case you didn't wonder what that was, this is a GTE telephone book in 1976. If some of you don't know what telephone

Museum Display Plans And Next Capsule

SPEAKER_01 27:10

books are, my my family's in there, and I looked up our old home phone number, which I had forgotten to time. But once I read it, go, oh yeah, I remember that. We had a party line too, but that's for nothing to conversation from the day.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

I remember hearing about party lines. Um, so we don't really really want to go through every single item that was in the time capsule because we want to highly encourage you guys to go to the historical museum and see these items for yourselves. Um, plus, you can get an up-close, better look at them. Now, um, Carrie George from the Wayne County Historical Museum is the one that come and helped us during the opening. Um, she was gracious enough to meet me this morning to loan me these items so we could show them on the podcast. Um, she told me give them about a week or two before you come out to see them. Um, the actual time capsule and the plaque will all be out on display there. Um, just it's just a really interesting thing about Richmond's history to see. So I do encourage everyone to go out and see them.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Yes, please do that. That'd be great. Yep, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

So, um, guys, I want to thank you so much for coming on. Sue, if anyone ever has any questions about Richmond, if you're doing a homework assignment about something historical of Richmond, definitely reach out to her at Morrison Reeves Library. Uh Ron has a lot of knowledge as well, but I would say Sue probably has more. Probably has more. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Well, if you know, as I said before, if if I if I don't know it off the top of my head, I can find the answer for you. That's that's what reference librarians do.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

Yes. So definitely check out the library, go to the museum and see these items. Um, if you can't wait to see the items, you can see, like Sue said, some of them that they have on display at the library. Um, but I I really want to thank you guys for joining me. I just think this is so neat. And, you know, I really wasn't into history when I was in school, but the order older I get, the more interesting it is to see.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Yeah, this is fun. I hope all citizens Richmond are super excited that our time capsule survived compared to some of the others around us that we had some of our mush, and this is a great thing. So we're working with some local. So the JCs put this together, we're looking with some similar local entities talking about a semi-quincentennial time capsule, 250th, maybe put back in the same location, buy another one of these things and get it sold up. And this time, write the combination on it on a Sharpie. You know, we have this lid. So this was great. This lid protected the combination on top. So we'll have a lid like that. And why they didn't write the combination right here, because once it's in concrete, who cares if the combination's not written right on.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

I have one copy. That's what when I got the the article out, I was like, why? One copy?

SPEAKER_01 30:01

Yeah, it's super secret.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

No. Lots of copies.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

And doesn't even have to have a lock. I mean, it could just be mechanical.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

So it's concrete.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Just click and open next time. We'll see. I know. Good times.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Yeah. So definitely go to the library, go to the museum, check everything out. Um, just learn more about Richmond's history because it's very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

If you're not a history buff, you should be. All the stuff we're just happening downtown, re-exposing these buildings and bringing back historical facades. Richmond has a rich history, so everybody in Richmond should become a history buff now.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Definitely. All right, guys. Thank you so much for joining me. Thanks for having us.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

Thank you.

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