The Craig Veltri Interview: Jaclyn Dima

Jaclyn Dima explains to Craig why she hasn't released a song as a solo artist in 17 years (including her diversion into children's music) and explains the genesis of her new single "I Won't Dance For You".

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SPEAKER_01 0:03

Well, it's that time again. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the interview with Greg Developer.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

Thank you, Megan Pennington. And welcome to the interview. After a long hiatus from music, our guest has come back with an emphatic bang. The defiantly ironic I won't dance for you, which we will play at the end of the episode, is also a stark change in style from her earlier releases. Recording in Pittsburgh and calling in from New York City, here she is, Jacqueline Dima. Jacqueline, welcome to the interview.

SPEAKER_05 0:49

Thank you. Hello, hello.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

So I'll talk about the song shortly. However, this is apparently the first release that you have done since 2009, 17 years with the release of your album, The Fall of Finding You. Um, where you been? What took you so long to get a new single out?

SPEAKER_05 1:11

Okay, so I mean, sort of. I I haven't I I have been doing music in 2014. I released an album with my band, The Shaky Tables. That was pretty fun. That was a um that was a funk-ish situation. And um Dave Brandwine of Turquoise produced that one. That was it was really cool. Um, love that album. That again, that was still a long time ago, 2014. And then um in there, I got really, really into early childhood music. So I have been um singing to babies and toddlers in preschoolers for a little over a decade.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

And it's may I ask if any of them are your own?

SPEAKER_05 1:59

No, nope, none are my own, but I've got about I got about 600 of them. So, so I have plenty. And um, I got really, really into children's music. It's it's an incredibly rewarding genre, so to speak. I was right, I'm still writing a lot of children's music and going to the schools and doing concerts in the neighborhoods and stuff like that. So I got really into it and I kind of forgot about grown-up music. I didn't mean to, I just I just forgot that I that I could write grown-up music. So I just you know, and a couple years ago something popped in my head, and and now I'm playing for grown-ups again.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

Well given the stark uh style change that has happened in the intervening uh almost 20 years, uh the fall of finding you that uh you mentioned is kind of in line with the band project. It's very funky, it's very uh rough, rugged, kind of kind of bar music, uh with a little bit of a jazz tinge to it. And here we sit 2026 with this song that is, by your own description, very 80s, 90s dance. And I think of the modern children's music, I don't have any kids of my own, but they I do have children in the periphery, and a lot of that music does, you know, cape clop demon hunters come to mind, though it is kind of grown-up tinge, it's a lot more electronic. Bluey tends to be a lot more electronic, baby sharp dut did need I say more. Was that use of I'm assuming that was the that a lot a lot more synth synth heavy stuff in the children's stuff? And if that's the case, is that what led you to doing more?

SPEAKER_05 3:49

Oh, that's a great, that's a great question. Um, the answer is no, actually, because when when it comes to doing children's music, I'm very, very acoustic. I'll still try to make it like you know, my my children's music is pretty bumping, I think. Um, but the the um the children's musicians who have inspired me the most are very guitar heavy, like Lori Berkner and Rafi. Um, Lori trained me, so I didn't, yeah. She she's the one who, yeah, I went to Lori Burkner boot camp, is what we call it in. So she inspired all of it.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Uh, of the when you were making this transition, how did you get in contact with her? And what would you say is the biggest thing that you gained as far as your writing's concerned with her?

SPEAKER_05 4:39

With Lori.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

With Lori, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:41

Um, it was she had Lori. Lori Berkner. Lori Berkner is the queen of kids' music. She is. Um, she's been around for a while, and in 2012 or 13, I believe, she was embarking on a journey um putting her own music program out, and she had a an audition, and I auditioned for her, and and I was chosen to come get trained. So I learned a lot, a lot, a lot from her.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

And so specifically, what would be the biggest lesson?

SPEAKER_05 5:18

Biggest lessons, you know what? She music is communication, and it's funny because um it everything that I learned about music being communication for for children, I I took such a long break from playing for any adults for the longest time. And when I started playing in just bars and stuff recently in the past couple years again, I started implementing those things into playing in bars, and my shows are just so much more fun. I brought my bubbles one time, that was a blast.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Yeah, so I mean, it's just like a little jar or bottle of it, and the little hard, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:06

Gotta get go hard or go home.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

I it fits with the music that you're doing for sure, and uh, we may as well uh just talk about the song itself. Now, lyrically, you've always gone hard, as you put it, even that that hasn't changed since uh since 2009. But this does feel very uh pointed in uh very in a very specific kind of way. Um it it almost feels like this this is poised to be almost uh almost a feminist anthem in in in a sort of way. Um put me in the writer's room with this one. When did it hit you? When did you start writing it? And how did this come about?

SPEAKER_05 6:56

I I would not I would not mind it being the feminist anthem. I I would not I would not say no to that. It um I I don't know. I was just hanging out. My husband and I were just hanging out at the house with the cats, chilling, having a few beers, whatnot. And um it literally just I won't dance for you, just popped in my head. Just that part. It was just, and that that's kind of what happens a lot with a lot of my songs. It'll just be like a part, just a tiny little piece. And I just started going, I won't dance for you, I won't dance. I was like, Oh, that's a that's a B minor. Oh, yes, it is, yes, it is. And I jumped inside, I was like, that's what I heard the switch and I was like, that's a minor six, yes, and I jumped on the guitar and I started playing it, and I was like, Oh my god, I got a cool song, I haven't written a song in so long, I got a cool song, and I and it it came pretty quickly. Um, and that also happens a lot. Like, I don't write a lot, but when I do, I'll go hard, you know. And and this one, even I was actually finishing up some of those lyrics the day I was going in to lay down the vocals.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

I'm guilty of that. I'm I'm usually on draft number five, hopefully, by the time I'm I'm hitting the studio and usually about to put my hand on the door about it. Uh, we're here with Jacqueline Dima on the Craig Veltry Interview, proud member of the Scarfire Media Podcast Network. For more on Scarfire Media, visit our website, Scarfiremedia.com. Check out all the great podcasts on the Scarfire Media Podcast Network, the Cool Brother Podcast, Deep Core Lore Podcast with Emmy Sasani, and thank you for listening to the Craig Veltry interview. Like, share, and subscribe. So I've heard it before, I've I've done this before myself. I've I've I've heard the title, I've heard the melody, and I and I kind of followed where the where the lyric eventually was taking me. So was it so obvious that I won't dance for you was going to take the take this kind of double-fisted middle finger to uh to the patriarchy?

SPEAKER_05 9:14

I I don't know. I think I think also everything you just said, too, when it did pop in my head like that, I was feeling just so angry in that moment, as many of us had been feeling a lot of angst and anger and frustration and just helplessness.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

Just over the general uh zeitgeist, or was there something going on with uh just in the general state of the world? Right, right. I I I think most of the people who uh who watch this program watch the news, so it's not that difficult to you know, just pick anything that would make make a woman feel unsafe in this world.

SPEAKER_05 9:55

Pick anything, and I mean you know what too. This song took a really long time to get to be released. We had to keep um, we had to keep delaying, actually. And every time it got delayed, I was like, ah, darn it, okay. I gotta I would get frustrated when it got delayed. Well, now, now I mean, just even this week, I'm like, well shit, this couldn't have come out at a better time, pardon me.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Yeah, oh no, no, please feel free, feel free. I just uh uh so as far as the music of it is concerned, because so you know you were you were working up to this point and you said you it's pretty acoustic. Was it because it's a dance title? Is that why you leaned into the uh into that 80 synth uh it's like we got we got it, we gotta keep it a dance song?

SPEAKER_05 10:39

Uh no, I I actually I love I love talking about this part because it was really exciting for me. Um it started off just acoustic with the guitar, and uh my husband and I played it a few. He played my husband plays drums. So we did it a few times, you know, out and about. And um one of my best friends, Andy Ray Healy, who um we are actually I'm we're gonna be releasing our singles together in uh next month in May.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Um, and I'll put a bookmark on that, but uh so yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:15

Um she loved the song and was like, listen, this is a rock song, and Jeff's gonna produce it. Now Jeff is her husband, so of course she's biased, right? And she's like, Jeff's gonna produce it. I was like, Andy, you know, because I have I've always had this little dream of doing like like lo-fi 90s trip hop type stuff. So I was like, this could pop, I could possibly do something with this in that electronic whatever. And Andy was like, no, it's a rock song, and Jeff is doing it. I was like, okay, fine, fine. And then it turned out Jeff Jeff ultimately ended up doing it. And when I talked to him about, he's also a dear friend of mine, of course. Um, Jeff Littman, shout out, he's absolutely amazing. And just as we were working on it, I mean, it happened in real time. He just started playing with a bunch of different things, and this beat came in, and it was so 80s. I was like, that's that's we might as well just be Whitney Houston here. Like, this is and I was like, I like that, keep going. And then he kept going and it kept building and building and building. And the other thing too, Jeff is an 80s guy, he's he's a prince guy, so it it just kind of it definitely had some Paisley Park kind of vibes to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it just it just kept going in that direction, and everything he added, I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And then when it got to the breakdown and coming back in on the chorus, he sat there. I was in there for like an hour or two while he was doing, I was like, I can go, I can come back, you know. But he's doing it, and he's like, I'm looking for in the air tonight. I was like, by all means, find it, and he found that feeling. He found it. It it took a while, but it comes in with this thing. Um, oh my god, now we're doing in the air tonight. I mean, it would just like it kept, it just kept rolling, it was like a snowball, like kept going and going.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Oddly enough, that is actually advice that Clive Davis himself actually would give to prospective artists. He's like, You want to know what kind of song I'm looking for? And he would turn on in the air tonight.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

So uh always a good North Star to have. So you you mentioned the uh the uh collaboration with Andy Ray Healy, who also contributed vocals to this track as well.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

You now you're mentioning that you so that you're gonna be doing a single concurrent with her coming up. Did I did I catch that?

SPEAKER_05 13:50

Yeah, this was this was a lot of back and forth, and um, I think we're finally it's we're not we're not um we're not going like super hard on the like we we were. We were thinking about this huge release thing with both of our songs, but now we're just getting listen, we're independent artists, we can do things on our like the way we want to do them. So we just finalized that we're doing this show together on uh May 31st at um one of my favorite places to play, L I C bar in Queens. Um, it's this beautiful outdoor space. Um, it's just a really pretty garden and they have a great sound system. And uh if it rains, we go inside. So like so that's nice. So yeah, we're just gonna kind of have a little like anti-patriarchy release party.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Do you have a date for this release party?

SPEAKER_05 14:43

Yes, May 31st. We've got the space from 4 to 8 p.m. So we're just gonna have a lot of music and yeah, a few bands. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Now, this single is just that. It stands alone as a single, and uh it sounds like this is just a session uh in and of itself. Or is there is there an album to follow?

SPEAKER_05 15:11

So uh after I got very excited about the new sound that that Jeff made of this song, got very excited, and um I basically called Jeff and I was like, Hey, I never released Lullaby. Can you 80s lullaby for me? And he was like, Yeah, I can work on it. So I gave him one of my old songs that I never released that I always wanted to release, it just never made it.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

It just never made it why was the song so important to you?

SPEAKER_05 15:44

Lullaby? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I just I always just really loved the song a lot, and it it was uh it was supposed to be on that first album in 2009, didn't make it onto there. It's an old song, then it was gonna be on the band album with the shaky tables, didn't make it onto there either. It was this like middle ground, it just it just kept never making it, you know. I don't like that. Yeah, it just you gotta find where it fits. So now that this is all happening, and I loved what Jeff did with I Won't Dance for You, I sent him Lullaby and I was like, Can you can you do something to this?

SPEAKER_00 16:22

And he asked, is this also kind of one of these ironically, you know, I won't dance for you and it's a dance song? Is lullaby a banger too?

SPEAKER_05 16:31

Oh, I think it is. I I do think it is, and I he just sent me, he started working on it. He just sent me the first draft of it two days ago, and it's brilliant, brilliant, and it's still going in that like 80s, 90s direction that's very quick, like dance pop. And uh so then I texted a friend of mine who works in film, and I was like, Do you know anyone that can make me a horror music video? So I'm thinking about doing some kind of horror something for lullaby.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

Um well, considering I've never heard uh lullaby, is uh why would it require uh require a horror uh why is that the uh tender?

SPEAKER_05 17:15

I don't know. I don't know. It's just about like dreams, nightmares, um and yeah, and however you want to interpret the song. It can still be interpreted in the same category as I won't dance for you.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

So well let's j let's jump back to I Won't Dance For You. Is that gonna get a music video?

SPEAKER_05 17:42

Yeah, I have I do have a lot of footage. I'm working on it.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Um you're directing and producing it yourself.

SPEAKER_05 17:49

Yeah, well, I I did have I did a photo shoot for the song, and when I was in the photo shoot, um I asked the photographer, because she's she's a great videographer too. Um, and she agreed to get some video while we were in there, so we got some cool footage. She's brilliant. Erica Elmkist. She's in Cincinnati.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

Well, if I may say so, I don't think there's a camera in the world that has not loved you in your in your lifetime. Uh so so it so I can imagine uh what that photo shoot, a great uh cover that was taking, is going to turn almost I can imagine at this point it's gonna just kind of be like within the fat within kind of a photo shoot sort of uh sort of a lot of close-ups, a lot of uh stuff. Am I on the right track?

SPEAKER_05 18:39

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they're beautiful photos. She got we got like four different vibes going. And one of the coolest things in the when I when I found this photographer, I saw a bunch of her photos, and she had a bunch of photos on this wall that was the wood panels that I grew up with in the 90s. And when I called her, I was like, I want that wall, and she was like, No problem.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Yeah, look at this basement over here. I mean, it's it's it's it's painted over wood paneling. So but uh you were saying sorry.

SPEAKER_05 19:16

Yeah, you got it. So no, no, it's funny. So we got the uh so we got the wood paneling um going in the 90s direction, too. So um, so that's pretty cool. And right before that photo shoot, my mom found her sparkly bomber jacket from the 80s, and I was like, oh well, I have to bring this.

SPEAKER_03 19:43

Of course.

SPEAKER_05 19:43

So I've got the sparkly bomber jacket, so that's in there. Um a lot I put them up on uh my website already, so they're up there, they're very cute. She asked me, because you know, there I'm a 90s kid, I was born in the 80s, um and she, you know, she's younger, Gen Z. And uh she asked me at one point, she was like, This might sound kind of strange, but can I get you to put the chair backwards and straddle the chair? And I'm sitting here like, can I? I got that song memorized. All those songs memorized. Like, we're gonna janet Jackson this thing now.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Yes, so yeah, uh, yeah, I've I've watched a Michael Bolton video once or twice. I think that uh that pose can be recreated. So so what so you seem to have uh have your plans forward for the pop side of things. Uh is that to say that the kids' stuff is uh on on the back burner for indefinite?

SPEAKER_05 20:47

No, I I can't I could never put the kids stuff on the back burner because for one, it is my it, I I do have my daily and weekly classes. I can't I can't just dip out on these kids, you know. And I no, I love my job. I love my job. I love doing kids' music.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

To be clear, I mean just just the musical side of it. So you are in fact a teacher.

SPEAKER_05 21:09

Well that's what they call me, you know. That's what they call they call me a teacher, but like and I I teach them stuff, but I it's it's a very performative job. It's a very performative job.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Instructor, perhaps.

SPEAKER_05 21:26

They're little, you know. I'm jumping up with a guitar, jumping up and down with a guitar like six hours a day. So it's a it's a very physical job, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Okay. Is uh I don't wanna I don't wanna blow up blow up your uh your inbox or your uh or or where you're where you're working at, but what specifically what do you do uh in in teaching or what you call your teaching?

SPEAKER_05 21:49

Yeah, so uh a few I do a few things. I um so I go to local daycares and preschools. And I do classes in the daycares in the preschools. And you know, they're like 20 to 30 minute classes, and I just bop around from room to room to room. And I do a class for each age group. One of my classes right now has a puppet. I've got lots of puppets, lots of puppets. They're back there. But yeah, I was about to grab one, but no. Um, so yeah, I just, you know, lots of songs about weather. It was raining today. So we sang about the rain a lot. Um, lots of movement stuff, and and I am going to event I want to focus on getting these songs that you know, I need I need to diversify my music a bit. So once I've got I Won't Dance for You and Lullaby and a few more songs out of my system, I will be recording my robot song and my unicorn dance. So that will be happening. And and my my kids' music brand is actually very similar, very similar. It's um Jacqueline the Gemstones is my children's band, and it's very much the same colors and just for kids.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Uh as uh I I kind of miss the uh gem and the holograms uh days back in the 80s, but I definitely get the call back. And uh hey, I live in Pittsburgh. This was this is the this is Mr. Rogers neighborhood. So I I I it it certainly is hitting a lot of uh a lot of uh very, very, very wonderful strings uh just talking about this kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_05 23:36

Um nostalgia's really really big for me, and I'm finding that nostalgia is has been making its way since I worked on my branding with Danny. Um I the marvelous Danny Felt uh too.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Marvelous of the show.

SPEAKER_05 23:52

Yes, and she really helped me realize like all the things about you know, about the it was really fun and very creative, and I realized that nostalgia is a very important aspect with both of my brands, my kids' brand and my adult brand. Like I really, really get into the nostalgia aspect of things, and I I didn't realize that was something that was so important to me until we did the process of it all. So I love incorporating that into everything I'm doing because I I think nostalgia hits hard for everyone, you know? Like it's nostalgia is it's it's a it's a heavy, it's heavy. Nostalgia's heavy.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

It is, and I but it also it recalls something more, especially with the children's kind of music, it recalls something much more innocent. It it's the stuff that many of us learned how to sing on before we started dipping into our parents' record collection before we were really allowed to listen to the radio. What are the first songs that first songs that I certainly remember came on Sesame Street? I was actually listening to I Got a New Way to Walk, uh just for the heck of it yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 25:03

So that's awesome. So I'm gonna have to listen to that one.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

Yeah, uh uh either way, the uh the the one with the uh with the pigs dancing around or destiny's child, you can't go wrong with either version, I don't think. But we we have a nice way of closing here on the Craig Velcher Interview, Jacqueline. It's called the No Kidden Questionnaire. A couple of rapid fire questions. First thing that comes to your mind, whenever you're ready, and away we go. Childhood celebrity crush.

SPEAKER_05 25:32

Devin Sawa, Mike Vittar. Yikes.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh he was uh I remember him, I think he was uh uh I know the name, I can see the act, I can see the actor. What was it about the guy?

SPEAKER_05 25:46

Wait, which one? I I accidentally said two. I was like, boop. Mike with Mike Vittar was the sound lot sandlot.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Um which one was he Benny?

SPEAKER_05 25:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_05 25:59

I'm 42. We uh that was we're talking about 12 years old here, 1995. That was a good year. Devin Sawa was Casper.

SPEAKER_00 26:08

Okay, yeah. I uh both good choices. Uh, what was it about those guys?

SPEAKER_05 26:15

I don't know. I was 12. They set the bar high. They set the bar high.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

The usual follow-up to that is uh, and and one's a blonde, one's a brunette. Uh, was uh that the kind of guy you found yourself dating and eventually marrying?

SPEAKER_05 26:33

I married my drummer.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

So no, yes.

SPEAKER_05 26:39

Oh no. Uh I married a deadhead drummer.

SPEAKER_00 26:45

Okay, so no.

SPEAKER_05 26:46

No. No.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

Well, you are you find yourself in schools quite often. What was your favorite subject in school?

SPEAKER_05 26:57

A choir, of course.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

Where did you sit? Was that uh what section did you sit in?

SPEAKER_05 27:04

Oh, soprano. I was uh soprano one and then I ended up being a coloratory soprano in college when I studied opera. So we s I sang high until I graduated.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Uh was that preservation or just your tastes evolved away from it? Taste what occupation other than your own would you like to attempt?

SPEAKER_05 27:29

What occup oh my goodness, other than my own would I like to attempt? Well, I do entrepreneurialism is very, very fun for me.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 27:42

I I get I get wacky ideas all the time. I do have this idea that I would love to build an artist space for people to use, but I'm talking like Lisa Franket out like Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

So like just basically being a landlord for uh for rehearsal space.

SPEAKER_05 28:04

I I guess that I guess so. And another dream I have is I really, really want to produce a music festival.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

So there are a lot of those, uh a lot of those popping up. Uh it what about that?

SPEAKER_05 28:22

Is it the entrepreneurial thing or is it uh yeah, it's the entrepreneurial thing, but also like the community thing. I love community building so much, and I think that right now, with everything going on, community is extra important right now, and you're seeing more music festivals, and people need that togetherness so much more. And that that's another big reason I've been in the children's music space for so long, too. A big aspect of that is the community of it. I do um what's called mommy and me classes, and and I get these families that come to my classes every week, and it's just a really lovely, you know. I just love the community stuff, and I always thought that a music festival would be a blast to produce, and I could, you know, find find the the bands that I basically curate my own little party.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

I I I booked a couple of shows and and and ran one or two of them. Uh I I I like it in that in that scale. I I I I applaud anybody's ambition to do anything like that. That requires a lot of people to get I watch what the Millvale and Music Festival folks do year in and year out. Um bless bless them. I I don't want to be stressed, I don't want to be that stressed out for a weekend. Um, so let alone the lead up to it. So bravo for that ambition. I think I may have already answered this next question. So on the other side of the coin, what job, I don't care how many bags of money are handed to you, Jaclyn, would you never want to attempt? And it can be something you've done already.

SPEAKER_05 30:08

Uh probably waiting tables. I have done that already. I'm very bad at it, and I was very grumpy. I was grumpy, I was a very grumpy waitress. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

Yeah, I I I've I've I've met your kind many times.

SPEAKER_05 30:25

I don't do well, like I do well under pressure, but that kind of pressure was just bad for me. And the the ADHD aspect of that did not sit with this. I would get mad.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

I didn't do well in customer service and re on re on a retail level. So I knew uh knowing that I can't do that, I don't have the temperament or the patience, at least I didn't back then. Maybe I'd do better at it now. I really don't want to find out though.

SPEAKER_05 31:01

I don't want to find out either.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

What is your go-to food on a road trip?

SPEAKER_05 31:08

On a road trip? Oh, checks mix.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Checks mix.

SPEAKER_05 31:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Do you make your own or do you just reach for the bag at the grocery store?

SPEAKER_05 31:17

No, no, just when we're on the road, I always grab Chex Mix and now they have those um the Gardetto special edition that are just the the rye chips.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Yeah, great way to break your teeth, those rye chips. Uh not that it's happened to me, but it's just like I'm chewing on a rock here.

SPEAKER_05 31:38

It's like they're they're pretty hard.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

If speaking of food, if you could have dinner with anyone, dead or alive, probably with softer bread, who would it be?

SPEAKER_05 31:49

Dinner with anyone, dead or alive. Hmm. That is loaded.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

My favorite question to ask.

SPEAKER_05 31:57

Oh my god, that is so loaded. I don't even know. How about um Britney Britney Spears?

SPEAKER_00 32:07

Seeing as that's what you've come out with musically lately. So obviously she's an influence. Would it be mostly talking just chalk and shop with her, I guess?

SPEAKER_05 32:19

Yeah, and also finding out if she's okay. She did a really great job of like we're we're about the same age. She's a little older than me, but she did a great job of basically being all of our best friends, you know?

SPEAKER_00 32:35

And uh my first calendar I I had I bought with my own money, or I wouldn't say bought with my own money, but I did definitely have uh have her calendar into in 1999.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

Hey.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Um, so yeah, I I had the I I was one of the boys with the biggest crush on her. I bought all three of her first records. Uh and yeah, it broke my heart to to to read uh read that memoir.

SPEAKER_05 33:01

And I know. I have it, and I started reading it, and I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna read this. I had I stopped. I was like, I I I can't. I do I want to know if she's okay. I've recently um accepted that because I was under the uh I was a conspiracy theorist on her, like, oh she's been dead for years or she's in a dungeon somewhere, and yeah. I've I've accepted that she's just she needs a hug. She's alive and she needs a hug. So I'd say Britney Spears and I'm paying for the coffee.

SPEAKER_00 33:37

Yeah, she can pay for the three-course meal, but uh uh Jacqueline, what is your biggest pet peeve? Dude, don't get you started.

SPEAKER_05 33:52

I listen. Buckle up, folks. Buckle up. I I am very grateful that I I'm able to. I have just started therapy this year, and I have a fantastic therapist. She's super woo-woo like me, which is great. Like, she's she likes astrology and stuff, so I can like I'm like, yeah, well, Saturn's here, so I'm pissed off at this today. And she'll be like, that's what I thought, you know, it's great. But um, she did just diagnose me with sensory processing disorder. I can't handle shit. I can't handle anything. I've always had the misophonia problem, very sensitive to sound, but I can't handle anything. So biggest pet peeve, I mean, just I can't leave the house.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Ah, okay. So yeah, uh, I that would and you and you said an earlier question was loaded. That answer was kind of loaded.

SPEAKER_05 34:52

So uh big question there. Yeah, but but it has been nice to know when she said, I think I'm gonna diagnose you with sensory processing disorder. Literally, my whole world went, Oh, okay, now I can identify it. It doesn't make it any better, but at least I can identify it. But yeah, biggest pet peeve, I got a lot of them.

SPEAKER_00 35:18

I I I I empathize with my alcoholism. There is a name for it, there is a diagnosis for it, there's a treatment for it. So congratulations, you're not evil. We can work on this.

SPEAKER_05 35:31

So you're not evil, we can work on this.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

Last question, usually, of the questionnaire. Okay, Jacqueline, what is the best advice that anyone has ever given you?

SPEAKER_05 35:44

You ask big questions. You gotta like warn me about these things.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

Oh, where's the fun in that?

SPEAKER_05 35:52

Best advice. Oh, there was some good advice. You're gonna make me think. Um sorry. Well, I will say I'm not sure best best advice someone's ever given me, but like many people say basically take risks. And I was afraid to come in here, I was afraid to do a podcast. And I was texting my husband, I was like, if I don't do it, I'll be mad at myself for not taking the risk. Because you do hear people say, like, when you're dying and you're on your deathbed, the last thing you're gonna think to yourself is like, man, I wish I hadn't done that. I wish I hadn't gone on that trip. I know you're saying, I wish I'd gone on more trips, I'd wish I'd taken more risks, and things like that. So maybe not advice like from one person, but something that you just gen generally hear from people.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Yeah, I I don't regress the past nor wish to shut the door on it, but I will say that um I I hope I have that moment to think about and just be like, okay, I'm ready. Now, this is usually the question that I end the questionnaire with, however, since it's been discovered throughout the course of this interview that you are what you might call a teacher. I do like to give this bonus question to people that fit the bill. I call it the Lonnie Billard Memorial Question, which goes as follows Maybe not the best advice that you give, but what is the most common advice that you find yourself giving your students?

SPEAKER_05 37:41

That I find oh mind you, my students are two years old.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

Very well.

SPEAKER_05 37:47

Advice giving my students. In a sense, be free. I wouldn't say that's like advice that I give the students, but a lot of times in my job and where I work, there's a lot of like micromanaging because they're so little. And what I like to see is when I am playing music for kids that young and they just cannot help themselves, and they have to like just get up and start dancing. They just they feel it so hard because they're so small and they feel these emotions, like I have gotta dance, and I'll look at these kids and be like, that's that's what that's how it this is this is what we want. And you have fun at that music festival in 20 years, and you know, and like there is a lot of um what do you call it? There's a lot of control, I think, when you're in schools, you know, not control you know what I mean. Like structure.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

I went to Catholic school, I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_05 39:00

But when it comes to music, and especially for early childhood, it's like just just let them feel it. And I I think it's really important to just let them feel that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

Well, I I definitely been feeling the music and feel feel the energy, and uh, and you and I I feel that you are a blessing to every child that you come across. And we have one last bit of business to do here, Jaclyn. It should be your favorite part of the program. It is time for shameless self-promotion. I won't dance for you is available now. New music on the way. How can we keep up with all of it? Plug your pluggables fire away.

SPEAKER_05 39:42

Plug your pluggables fire away. Uh let's see. I've got Instagram at mermaidjack. Um, we've got Jacqueline Dima, I won't dance for you on Spotify. Um, I'm terrible at TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

I mean, you can go on there, but I let I let Megan do that for our band.

SPEAKER_05 39:59

So help me out. I get oh TikTok. Well, now you have to sign a thingy, so I haven't done that yet.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:07

Mostly Instagram, um, and wherever streaming is available.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

And that means everywhere. Jack and Dima, thank you so much uh for your for your joy. This was delightful. Thank you so much for joining me here today on the Craig Veltry Interview.

SPEAKER_05 40:28

Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

The Craig Veltry interview, where Craig Veltry interviews wonderful people, is a production of Scarfire Media, the voice of the independent artist. Written and edited by Craig Velchery. Your announcer is Megan Pennington. The opening theme, Shut Up I Love You, written by Trenton Chandler and Craig Veltry, performed by Craig Velchary, produced by Jack Gavin. Inside the cabin is available now on all streaming. Support Moonshine Vagabonds by downloading direct from Bandcamp. Time now to update the event calendar because you must know where I am at all times, myself and Megan Pennington, fresh off of a gig in New York City. And many thanks to Patty Riley's for having us over this past week. We will be back around Western Pennsylvania ways on Saturday, April 25th at Deer Creek Diner in Russelton, PA from 11 to 1 p.m. For full dates, including Pittsburgh, Brittle Beach, South Carolina, Nashville, and Atlanta. Visit my website, Craig Veltry.bandzigal.com for booking info, including full band and this podcast. Email me at Craig Veltryofficial at gmail.com. You can find the interview on Facebook by searching the Craig Veltry interview, YouTube at Craig Veltry Music, and you can find me on Instagram or as my old roommate, the Tommy Thomas, used to call it Instagirl at Craig.veltry. With special thanks to Danny Feld for Jaclyn Dima. I'm Craig Veltry, and this has been the Craig Veltree interview. With that, I'll pass. Here's Jaclyn Dima with I Won't Dance for You on the Craig Veltry Interview. Proud member of the Scarfire Media Podcast Network.

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