Kitchen Flex

Episode 3: Ramon Amaro on Fugitivity, Freedom and Remembering we are already in the Body

Victoria McKenzie Season 1 Episode 3

Dr Ramon Amaro is the Senior Researcher in Digital Culture at Nieuwe Instituut, the national institute for architecture, design and digital culture in The Netherlands. An engineer and sociologist by training, Ramon's writings, research and artistic practice emerge at the intersections of Black Study, digital culture, psychosocial study, and the critique of computational reason.  

In this conversation we explore embodiment as a decolonial exercise. Ramon guides us through a historical and theoretical journey that moves gracefully through the power of psychologist Frantz Fanon. Ramon says “the beginning of healing [from trauma] is always the recognition of the lies–revealing the truth of what you’ve been telling yourself; then reconnecting with the body because the body has always been learning.” He so aptly reminds us that this is an individual task, as well as a societal task where the work becomes a means of sourcing justice in the body and in the world. He guides us into a discussion on freedom, the role of the fugitive, and language’s limitation. 

It becomes clear that on a podcast about architecture, Dr. Ramon Amaro invited us into the architecture of the body. 

I hope you enjoy!


Kitchen Flex Podcast Team:

Host: Victoria McKenzie

Producer: Thomas Tawanda Orbon

Graphics and Visual Language: Martin Escalante

Original Music by Giorgos Karamanlis and Dimitris Kyriakou