
Carry Your Cross
Carry Your Cross is more than a podcast—it’s a call to bold, Kingdom-centered living in a culture that’s constantly shifting. Rooted in scripture, we tackle real issues at the intersection of Christianity, culture, and modern life. From pressing topics to raw testimony, each episode delivers truth, perspective, and practical wisdom to strengthen your walk and empower you to carry your cross with purpose and conviction.
Carry Your Cross
#18 Tim Reed
In this conversation, Tim Reed and I explore the themes of faith, leadership, and the challenges facing the modern church. We discuss the importance of understanding the blueprint of faith, the impact of cultural influences on the church, and the need for authentic leadership in a changing world. Tim shares his personal testimony of grace and redemption, emphasizing the role of men in the church and the significance of small groups as a return to community. The conversation also touches on prophetic insights regarding the Western church and the urgency of preparing for the end times. In this conversation, Tim Reed and I explore profound themes of salvation, belief, and the struggles of faith. We discuss the significance of the Woman at the Well as a blueprint for understanding salvation, emphasizing that it is through belief and grace, not works, that one is saved. The dialogue also touches on the current cultural climate, the influence of Hollywood, and the signs of a spiritual revival. They address the Great Falling Away from truth in the church and the importance of men's ministry in preparing for future challenges. Ultimately, the conversation encourages listeners to rely on God's strength and love, highlighting the transformative power of faith.
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TIm Reed (00:00)
yeah, one of them is the out is the outlay of the temple ⁓ and I find I found it necessary because as God was talking to me and I had questions and Not not doubts but questioning him like okay, but you're telling me something scripture says something else so How is that possible? And then so he says I want you to research and so that's why I sent you the blueprint of the temple
And then I sent you a picture of 70 AD, an artistic rendition of the overthrow of Israel from Rome. Yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (00:41)
So this is what it is for the watchers, eventually. If my camera can adapt to it. No, okay. Well, the listeners, ⁓ Tim sent me map of what seems to be Herod's extended temple, which is the compound of his temple, and then Solomon's temple compound, and really how those sort of
TIm Reed (00:47)
Yeah, I don't think it's going to be able to show.
Pedro Espinoza (01:09)
overlap with each other and then like you said the 3d rendition of of what you sent me in 2d
TIm Reed (01:18)
Yeah, yeah. And of course, that's for later on in the discussion, but I just wanted to put it in your hands first.
Pedro Espinoza (01:20)
Ahem.
Well, thanks for doing this, man. I'm sure million other things you could be doing on a Sunday than being on a boring podcast. I really do appreciate your time and your focus and energy with doing this. It means a lot to me. But I first came to know and meet you through the small group that you run called The Man's Man.
And through that small group, from what I got out of it, the main purpose of it is to expose the lies that the enemy has for men and ⁓ really to help men navigate all the curveballs that this culture throws at us as men. And so I know that you're going to do it again in September and I'm going to help you lead it. So I'm super excited for that. I can't wait.
I'm sure there's going be a lot of studying material and just a lot of different angles we can approach it But ⁓ I'm very, very appreciative of that experience that I had the first time around. And it was definitely life changing for me because I've never been a part of something like that. So I just want to thank you. And it really changed my life a lot. And then
I know that you have some military experience, maybe you can talk about that and sort of how that sort of plays into your journey to faith and your testimony. But with that said, everybody starts with a testimony. So maybe you could talk to us about your journey to faith and where you started at and where you ended up.
TIm Reed (03:07)
Yeah. Yeah, so Pedro, I appreciate that, brother. And I loved having you there ⁓ for the Man's Man. ⁓ The Man's Man Ministries, like you said, it's to ⁓ really throw out that net in the sea and bring in ⁓ men ⁓ to play a role and make sure that they have an understanding of their role, who they are in Christ, because there's a war out there.
and ⁓ we've been getting served pretty damn bad. And I recognized the war. And ⁓ so I really want to ⁓ encourage individuals who believe and have a love for Christ to take their natural role as leaders. ⁓ We don't know how because all we've been taught is failure. We've been taught how to fail. We've been taught how to regress. We've been taught how to... ⁓
let others take the wheel while we kind of hang back in the shadows. We as men, have ⁓ such ability to bring God into families and into culture, and we forgot how to do that. So I know that's my heart. And ⁓ I'm super excited for September and having you a part of it. I know when I first met you, I was like, man.
I don't know why, but I feel like we're gonna be working together in the future. I really did. ⁓ So yeah, absolutely. ⁓ As far as my testimony, yeah, cause like, why am I listening to this guy? Who cares? Like if you don't know who's talking, then why care about what they're saying, right? ⁓ My life has been ⁓ a mirror of his grace and my failures, if I can say it best. ⁓
I was called out to become a ⁓ pastor and ⁓ God uses things in every direction in every way. But, ⁓ know, and I'll just keep this high level ⁓ and then we'll jump into and then maybe can get into the fine minute details ⁓ of my testimony because in the really fine details, really, God really addresses His mercies and His grace. ⁓
and to the desert. I was going to the desert myself, Him walking side by side, knowing that I was going to leave Him. ⁓ So merciful, so graceful. ⁓ But yeah, like I said, I was called to be a pastor, and ⁓ I almost finished my ⁓ pastoral degree. It sounds like Christian college. ⁓
can't remember what it's called now, but it's no longer San Jose Christian College. ⁓ But I was close. I was real close. And that's where my education and background is. And I've learned enough to know that what the blueprint of ⁓ what they teach is muffled ⁓ and the truth, you have to seek for it. Because how many denominations are there?
in Christianity, 45,000 denominations, if you were to Google it, just simple Google how many denominations, 45,000 denominations. When you go into a Christian college, they cater to 45,000 different denominations. So they don't want to step on the toes of people. They want to keep baseline and they want to teach you the basics and they don't want to teach you the things that got Jesus nailed to the cross, things that would cause offense, right?
Pedro Espinoza (06:31)
thousands.
TIm Reed (06:55)
So, ⁓ not knowing the difference, I came to the point to where I was leading two lives, ⁓ fully trying to ⁓ complete my ⁓ mission in getting my ⁓ pastoral degree, but then ⁓ having premarital sex with my ex-wife. ⁓ And can
Yeah, I started struggling. ⁓ Living two lives with my ex-wife, we were dating. ⁓ I couldn't stop ⁓ having premarital sex with her, but I wanted to serve my God at the same time. And you can't serve two masters. You'll either love one or hate the other, or hate one or love the other, according to the Bible. And it's true. And of course I didn't hate God, but I couldn't stop.
It came to a head. I got really close to graduating and I said, I'm sorry, God, I can't do this no more. So I ran away from them. I'm the prodigal son. 13 years, I ran to the Marine Corps. ⁓ I went to the Marine Corps and ⁓ I told them, hey, it's Wednesday. If you can get me out of here by Sunday, you can have me. So by Sunday, I was on the yellow footprints ⁓ in MCRD San Diego. And I started my journey as a Marine. ⁓ Went to war. I've been to war.
I've been surrounded by death. I'm familiar with it. ⁓ I'm familiar with ⁓ living my life away and apart from God. ⁓ But He called me back. ⁓ I went through a divorce. ⁓ I know what it's like to go through divorce. ⁓ Not having anything, having to rebuild myself, ⁓ having anger issues with God, blaming Him for things that
I clearly did, and Him still showing me mercy. ⁓ raising kids on my own, 100 % custody, for years and years, going through the divorce, ⁓ finding my wife now, knowing I need to get back, ⁓ having that struggle of trying to get back to God, and then His grace overtake me and bring me back into the fold.
So I've lived a life that's been full. I've had every experience known to man. ⁓ So I can speak to any man that's experienced anything and be able to address concerns, hurt, anger, and really help them along. So I feel like my calling is going to be towards ⁓ bringing men back and helping and teaching them and also dealing with the scars of being a prodigal son.
There are things that happen when you're in a wayward country that when they happen and even though you come back, you have scars like when David will go to battle, he would have scars and he would look in the mirror and see them for the rest of his life. ⁓ God uses everything for his grace and his mercy and his glory. So I pray that he uses this vessel as cracked and broken as it is. So that's my testimony in a nutshell, brother.
Pedro Espinoza (10:15)
Well, thank you for sharing that. I'm sure that you've been tested through the fire and I'm sure that during those moments you didn't think that you were ever going to end up where you're at now. And that's leading not only men, but people in general back to Christ, back to their purpose and calling. But I feel like everything's hindsight, right? Everything is...
We can look at everything retrospectively would be pretty sure to say that now you probably look back at your life and you're like, you know what, this is why God put me through all of these trials, errors, ⁓ hardships, because he knew where he wanted me to be few years from there. And I think now you're walking in your calling.
TIm Reed (11:06)
Yeah, all things work for the good for those who are in Christ, right? ⁓ He could bring back desolation and he can bring back ⁓ the things that the enemy took away and mold you. I'm still ⁓ in many aspects with my relationship with God. ⁓ He hasn't yet released me into my full calling yet.
⁓ I've had individuals prophesy over me in the past saying that I'm going to be doing this and that and this and I'm like, okay, you know, I'll leave it in the hands of God. ⁓ So I truly do feel like there is going to be a moment where the gates will open and I will step into my true calling. But hey, ⁓ Moses had to wait what 80 years before he found his true calling. So I'm 47. I think I'm not too bad off so far, you know.
Pedro Espinoza (12:04)
What do you think your true calling is? Where do you think God wants you?
TIm Reed (12:09)
⁓ He's calling me back into the ministry, so ⁓ I don't know what that looks like. However, ⁓ what we're going to talk about today is closely tied into the possibility of hardships ⁓ and ⁓ a changing of culture in America and a changing of ⁓ what we know.
there will be needed strong men to rise at that moment to take the helm and be able to facilitate ⁓ those who are looking to them. You know, I find it funny. I find it funny that we live in a society where people are so, ⁓ everything's set up so perfectly now that they offer the leadership position to individuals that when it really hits the fan, there's gonna be a changing of the guard.
⁓ and there's gonna be people that hide away. And then there's gonna be people that rise up. There's gonna be ⁓ the Gideons, right? And the Davids that rise up when everybody is terrified. ⁓ And there will be a change of culture.
Pedro Espinoza (13:20)
you ⁓
I want to go back to what you said and that's they institutions nowadays want to want to give a softball version of Christianity and the gospel. But really ever wants to talk about really put Jesus on the cross. And I think that's that's really being shown especially now and Christian circles and
TIm Reed (13:34)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (13:49)
these institutions, everything is so watered down, feel even, right? It's so watered down to the point where people just want to show up to church. They want to feel good. They want to hear the music. They want that emotional experience. But they don't want to live that walk out throughout the entire week. ⁓ I feel like we're called to attend church read our Bible more than once a week.
TIm Reed (14:11)
Yeah, right.
Pedro Espinoza (14:17)
I don't think it was ever intended do it that way. what I'm trying to say is I think you're right in the sense that have been taught a watered down gospel, but I think now it's time real leaders to step up and lead the church in the direction that God wants it to go in.
TIm Reed (14:38)
Right, yeah. And who is the church? ⁓ We go to these buildings and ⁓ we are called, I think something that's such a good perspective, if you want to give, ⁓ if you're a man of God and you want perspective, ⁓ I think what's told to us so many times is that, ⁓
If you want to be a man of God, you get out there and you go pound the sidewalk and you make sure that you tell people of who God is. Peter's entire mission was ⁓ feed my sheep. So we know that there's either sheep or there's goats. And ⁓ after Peter denied Jesus and he came back to him and said, Peter, do you love me? And he says, Lord, I love you. And said, feed my sheep. And he said, Peter, do you love me?
Yeah, Lord, you know I love you. Well, then feed my sheep. Peter, do you love me? Lord, you know all things. Well, feed my sheep. There is such a ministry of going into those installations, those churches, and finding individuals, and catering to them, and showing them the truth. And you don't have to go out and pound concrete and become ⁓ Elijah or become a ⁓ John the Baptist.
Right? That's going out to the masses and bringing people in. But that's the image that we have. You could just go and care for people. that's the mission that God, Jesus gave Peter. That could be your mission too. How easy is that? Go show love. Be someone's ⁓ answer. Hey man, I'm having a problem. Hey, I can't pay this. Hey man, you know what? Here's 50 bucks. know, hey, I'm having such issues. ⁓
With my kid, he's doing terrible in math and I'm an idiot. I don't know anything. Pro, I'm so good at math. What are the chances? Boom, let me help you. To be able to do the simple things that others can't and show the love of Christ, you will fulfill
going out and helping those that are already in the church can be the, it's the highest calling that's out there. Feed my sheep, you know?
Pedro Espinoza (17:05)
spoke about this in my last episode with Abel Delgadillo, that's number 15. And I shared with him that sometimes I want to minister to others. I want to evangelize. But my biggest problem is by analysis. And I think sometimes I get way too much in my head where like,
TIm Reed (17:25)
Yeah, right.
Pedro Espinoza (17:29)
I psych myself out and that's that for it's two things are happening there. That's one is psyching myself out. But number two, I'm also blocking that person's blessing because we are we are called to.
to disciple, right? We're called to give people a taste of heaven. And we really need to walk in boldness. think especially now where culture is just upside down, the enemy is feeding us this counterfeit culture. And I think this is actually one of our talking points for this episode, which we don't have to get into now, but
the increase of the feminine and the decrease of the masculine and why the enemy needs this to happen. And so I feel like there's there's there's a battle that there's a constant battle going on. ⁓ Everything that happens in the physical is a manifestation of what's happened in the spiritual. And with that being said, I want to delve into our first talking point.
TIm Reed (18:14)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Espinoza (18:39)
and you said that God gave you a prophetic word and that was judgment on the Western Church. Can you expand on that?
TIm Reed (18:46)
Yeah, right.
Yeah, absolutely. ⁓
Yeah, that was the first topic that you picked it. And I remember just writing all these topics down that I have and I have so many and and that one just got in there. You're like, I'd like to do that one first. And I was like, man, I should ask God before I said something. ⁓ But I feel like ⁓ he he wants it's OK to talk because yeah, no, he ⁓ I think he gave me the green light. There's so many things that are that are changing and they're changing fast. A lot of people.
Pedro Espinoza (19:07)
Whatever you wanna do, brother.
TIm Reed (19:19)
they see what's going on right now and they say, man, reprieve. Whether you agree with who's in office now or you don't agree with who's in office now, ⁓ you do see the changes that are coming. You do see that there's a pushing away of the darkness ⁓ of sorts. There's a drawing in of old time American ⁓ Westernized theology. It's almost like a returning. ⁓
what God has been showing me is that as the pendulum swung ⁓ one way, it so shall swing the other way. And if you were to think of ⁓ a play and what we see right now in that play, everything that's being played out where it appears as if God's mercy and God's grace, which it is, it's here, but in a play, there's also things that are happening behind the curtain. They're setting up stages for the next scene. And the God of this world, which is the devil,
He owns this world, right? And ⁓ only God can usurp him because he is the God of this world. Only God can say, okay, that's enough. Stop right here. ⁓ You can go no further. make no doubt, he is making plans behind the curtain right now. So as that pendulum swings, we're taking one step forward, two steps back, one step forward, two steps back. As it swings the other way, it's gonna hit hard and it's gonna hit ⁓ the Westernized church.
as well. ⁓ We are coming ⁓ in for judgment. While I was going to church, ⁓ God grabbed my attention in my heart. And as I was walking towards the entrance, he said, Tim, you see this building? ⁓ And I said, Yeah, I see it, God. He said that what once was will be again. There's nothing new under the sun. There will not be one brick.
laid upon the next. And of course, he brought two different Bible verses to me. The first Mark 13, one through speaks on the judgment of the temple. When his disciples said, teacher, do you see all these massive stones? How glorious is this temple? And then Jesus pretty much said, surely I tell you,
not one stone will stand upon another, talking about the temple being destroyed. And of course, we know that as sign of Jonah, right? ⁓ When the Pharisees came to Jesus and ⁓ in Matthew 12.39, and they said, give us a sign. He said, you wicked generation, you'll have no sign. The only sign that you'll have is the sign of Jonah.
And so what he was telling them was, know, Jonah went into Nineveh and Jonah gave the Ninevites, you have 40 days to change your mind. If you do not change your mind in 40 days, I will destroy your nation. Right? Of course, this is a picture of Gentiles. ⁓ It's a picture of Gentiles and how the Gentiles are going to be the one that actually repent and buy into what God wants. ⁓
And we know the Israelites didn't, right? So what Jesus was telling the Pharisees, I give you the sign of Jonah. ⁓ And we know it was 30 AD at the time. 40 years later, ⁓ you see that picture that I sent you of ⁓ individuals being thrown off the top of the temple. You see the picture of ⁓ all their gold being taken away and not one stone was left upon another. And the reason why...
Archaeologists say not one stone was left upon another is because there was so much gold ⁓ Infused in the bricks and in the stones. They wanted to get it all the Romans So they they demolished the temple just to get it Of course them wanting the gold thus fulfills the prophecy of Jesus saying not one stone will be on top of another when judgment comes so G now I got I have God as I'm walking to church telling me
the sign of Jonah and ⁓ there's nothing new under the sun, what once was will be again. we know that ⁓ King Solomon said that, right? ⁓ And ⁓ I knew he was talking about the church, right? And so ⁓ he said that the Westernized church is going to be judged and not one stone.
will be left on top of it. I'm gonna decimate it entirely. ⁓ Of course, God's church ⁓ will always be and the gates of hell will never prevail, right? And that's a promise that's given by Jesus himself. And on this rock, I shall build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail. That's him, he's the rock, he's the truth. ⁓ So regardless of the Westernized church falling,
there's gonna be a raising up of men that's gonna take it and it's gonna revamp. What once was, what happened then will happen again. And what happened, we see that there was a pushing away as the kingdom had come and Christianity was birthed and Gentiles were integrated into the fold. ⁓ We see that there was a ⁓ separation.
⁓ They were no longer going into the temple ⁓ and and that's the question I had God I said wait a minute You're saying that that people will no longer be going to the church You're comparing the westernized church to the temple in in Israel and in it being destroyed But in Acts it says that they went to the temple courts every single day, right? ⁓ Essentially he's saying it's going to return to the book of Acts, which is what small groups?
Small groups are going to be the church. And that's why we need men to rise up and to be ready to take the torch and do it right. going to be such an outpouring of God's grace and mercy that's going to flow in like you've never before seen. The gates, ⁓ I call it ⁓ the oral, man's oral law.
What we're doing right now, the watered down gospel that you ⁓ alluded to, it exists. It's there every single day. And people have to wade through it to find the truth. They have to wade through it until, and of course only God shows you the truth. Only God can show you the truth. I don't care who your pastor is. I don't care if Billy Graham's your pastor. Only God will convince you of the truth. ⁓ Blessed are you, Simon Peter, for it is only God that showed you this, not man, right?
Who do you say I am? Well, some say that you're Elijah. Who do you say I am? ⁓ I believe you're the Christ, you're the Messiah. Blessed are you, Simon Peter, for it is not man that showed you this, but God that showed you this. If you are truly born again, it's God that did the work, not a pastor, not your friend. They may have told you something, and God used it to convince you, but it was God. It was the Holy Spirit that draws you.
And that's what's so beautiful. Don't get tongue-tied when you're speaking to people about God, because it's not you that does the work. You are just a vessel and your words go out and you start speaking to people. And it's the Holy Spirit will supernaturally infuse your words. They may grasp onto something you're not even trying to say. And they may hold tight to it and say, man, that's exactly what I needed. It's the Holy Spirit that convinces people.
So you don't even have to worry about being good. You just have to worry about being obedient. Once you get out there and blessed are you Simon Peter for it was not man that showed you this, but it was God himself that showed you this, right? How beautiful is that that we don't have to worry about that. You know what God, I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna trip over myself and I'm gonna make a fool for myself. That's all you gotta do is I'm ready God, I'll be a fool for you. And once you do that,
Pedro Espinoza (27:47)
you
TIm Reed (27:47)
You'd
be amazed what God does. That's when he shows up. ⁓ The feeling of like, man, I'm gonna mess it up. I'm gonna say something wrong. I've dealt with that all my life. But then I had this revelation, but I'm not convincing anybody. ⁓ It's God that convinces people. So at that point, I just start talking. God, this is your problem. This is not my problem. I'm gonna do, I love you and I love this individual that I'm speaking to.
But it's your problem to bring it to them. And maybe you don't even want to bring it to this individual. Maybe they're not even ready at that moment. And it falls upon deaf ears. It happens all the time. All the prophets spoke and fell onto deaf ears. preached 120 years. We got ⁓ Ezekiel. He was ⁓ a ⁓ prophet that nobody listened to. Jeremiah was the prophet nobody listened to. ⁓ Let's see, Moses couldn't get anyone to listen to him or Pharaoh to listen to him.
Nobody listened to anybody in the Bible, but God used them. So why do we worry about ⁓ people not listening to us when you can look at the Bible in its entirety and nobody was listening to any of the prophets? You know, so it's just a little perspective and that gives courage. There's going to be a time where you need to get out there and you need to bring God's sheep in. There aren't His sheep yet, the ones that are lost, you know.
And it really helps ⁓ when we have that perspective.
Pedro Espinoza (29:21)
Amen. think that obedience is God's language And I what once was will happen again. And like you said, we are seeing that play out in present day, just like it happened ⁓ back in those times in the days of Noah and the times that you alluded to. But.
Like I mentioned earlier, there is a counterfeit culture and it's in the air. It's in front of our eyes. It's what we hear. It's what we can feel. ⁓ It's what we see. And I wonder just how much like how much of an impact or influence does culture have on the church because the enemy is very crafty. He knows what strings to pull, what buttons to push. And I've always wondered why
The word is so watered down nowadays and kind of just like a softball, you know, I want to feel good type message. much of that is due to the power that, well, I should say the power and influence that culture has on people today.
TIm Reed (30:34)
Yeah, yeah. You can see the church is, ⁓ it's moved and provoked by the world. It's saturated by the world. You go into the church and you see the world in the church. ⁓ don't see the opposite, right? The symbolisms that I see when I go into church and I don't want to get too deep into the symbolism,
But there is symbolism that's in the church on a day-to-day basis, or what people wear, how they sing, how they tailor the music according to what's nice right now. We are ⁓ inundated and entrenched in the world, and the world is affecting the church. And that's one of the reasons why we're going to be judged. ⁓ The Western church is going to be judged. Yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (31:15)
Yes.
Can I say something real quick?
I mean, we don't have to get into the symbolism, but I get exactly what you're saying because I heard it said once before that ⁓ there is a reason that men I guess, turned off to come to church, especially contemporary church that plays contemporary music because it's because the music and worship is so tailored toward the woman.
TIm Reed (31:45)
Yeah, that makes sense.
Pedro Espinoza (31:54)
⁓ It sounds very feminine and when I heard this said, ⁓ the host was saying that the music is not tailored toward the man. It's not masculine music. it's, I guess, just feminine for lack of a better term. So that's one reason that they feel a little turned off to come. But anyways, didn't mean to go off on a tangent. You can continue.
TIm Reed (32:17)
No, no, yeah.
Yeah, no, absolutely. We are in...
for such a time as this. ⁓ God uses everybody. And I don't want to discount women and what they're doing for the church right now, because they are performing. ⁓ Okay, there was a scene where the disciples were preaching, and they were preaching inappropriately. I think it might have been a Sunday ⁓ on Shabbat.
Pedro Espinoza (32:34)
No, never.
TIm Reed (32:54)
You're preaching on Shabbat? ⁓ And the Pharisees are like, hey, tell your disciples to shut up. They're being inappropriate. And he says, if they don't say something, the rocks are going to cry out. ⁓ We're in a time right now that the authority of man has been taken down so much, someone's got to step up. And to be honest, it's the women. The women have been stepping up because we have stepped down. And that's on us.
And to everybody that's listening to this podcast, you got to take accountability with that and understand we have given up so much things, but we've been deceived by the enemy. ⁓ Now, just, you know, ⁓ just to just to talk about what you're what you're talking about, the empowerment of the feminine, ⁓ the world, the enemy knows that men in their weakened state will do anything for a woman. OK.
Pedro Espinoza (33:23)
Yeah.
TIm Reed (33:51)
Well, how does he know that? Because it's in our blueprint because Adam died for his wife He he was not the one that sinned first She sinned right? She was convinced by the enemy to take the fruit down and eat it and then she gave it to him and Then if you look in the New Testament, it's clearly states that Adam did not sin first But he chose to eat the fruit because he didn't want to live without his wife. He died for his wife we
have a special superpower as men to die for what we believe in. Okay, that's why we go, we take the hill. We're not taking it for the money that we're making. We take the rifle, we take the hill and we fight, when we die for our family. Why? Because we emulate the blueprint of Christ, the church, that we are the husband. Christ is the husband, the church is the feminine. We are the masculine. And because we are intertwined in that blueprint,
We we we know that there's a hill that we will embrace the hill to die on as man, right? But in our weakened state we will die to ourselves You understand so if the enemy could ⁓ Invoke women to do what he wants them to do in our weakened state We will die to ourselves and allow them to do that if we are not following Christ the reason why men are so ⁓ equipped
to ⁓ bring about the kingdom of God. Why are we so equipped? It's because we're so simple, brother. We're so simple. You have to become like a child to enter into the kingdom of God. Unless you become like a child, you will never enter the kingdom of God. We have the innate ability to say, okay, God, if that's what you want, I trust you. I believe you. And that's what God needs. He needs the individual that says, I don't get it, but I trust you, God.
Men have that ability. That's why we could take the hill you say that that's what we need to do to save my family I'm on it. I'm gonna go I'm gonna take the hill and if I take around to the head it is what it is I believe in this cause women don't have that ability they they have The enemy if the enemy embraces the woman and shows them the direction that they want to go in our weakened state We shall follow right and and you see Eve she wanted to usurp Adam
She wanted to become greater than him. Why? Because they didn't eat it at the same time. She ate it and then gave it to him. She wanted to be like God prior to him and then gave him the fruit and she ate it. ⁓ empower the woman in the church. ⁓ You're gonna get dilution, diluted gospel. I'm sorry. Yes, women are doing their job and they're doing a fantastic job in...
in a realm where we have weakened ourselves to the point to where we can't even step up. I remember when I did the man's man group, ⁓ there was nobody coming to check us out. ⁓ You know, we probably had like six or seven individuals, maybe 10 at the most at times. ⁓ Men aren't interested. They're not interested in leadership roles. They're not interested in meeting together. They're not interested in going to church. And that is the truth. ⁓ We have stepped down. Women had to step up.
Pedro Espinoza (37:02)
I remember.
TIm Reed (37:15)
but they're not meant to lead. And in that stepping up, they delude out what things should be. If that makes sense. That's my thoughts. That's my thoughts.
Pedro Espinoza (37:29)
one man's opinion.
TIm Reed (37:31)
One man's opinion.
Yeah, right.
Pedro Espinoza (37:35)
No, I totally, but I share the same sentiment. I just think you're better at explaining it and articulating, but more people need to hear this message and more men need to really take it seriously because this was God's design, right? It was never His intention to have it the other way around. And that's what culture and the enemy has turned it into.
TIm Reed (38:02)
Yeah, absolutely. They
empower the woman. Why are all women superheroes? Why are all women ⁓ beaten up men in the movies? Why do we have Empowerment Women's Workday, Empowerment Women's Month? Let's empower the women. Let's let them ⁓ know that they are more than they are. There ain't nothing new under the sun, brother. What the enemy told Eve is what it's being conveyed now. And they're buying it and they're eating it.
Pedro Espinoza (38:05)
Even, yeah.
Exactly.
TIm Reed (38:32)
And you know what though? At the bottom line, it's Adam's fault. He wasn't controlling the situation from the get-go. The buck stops here with men. This is our fault. You can't be a man of Christ and look out and say, hey, look what these women are doing. I don't like how they're doing things. Yeah, well, this is where we're at. And you know what's that's crazy, brother? My voice is not heard anymore.
When I talk, if I went back to 2002, 2003, and I'm talking to people, people are like, yeah, yeah, man, yeah, that sounds good. But now when I go to church and I start talking to people, I don't fit the bill. I'm not the guy that looks like someone that should be talking about Jesus. I don't fit the bill. And you see the glazed look and people just kind of like looking through me. I'm like, God, I don't even know why I'm talking. If you want to be successful,
Pedro Espinoza (39:27)
Yep.
TIm Reed (39:31)
as a male in church, you gotta be goofy, non-confrontational, you have to pose no threat and entertain people. That is how you become ⁓ relevant in the Western church these days because there's no room for the masculine. Be goofy, be entertaining, be funny, be non-threatening if you wanna be successful.
That's my opinion too. Yeah, yeah. But we're made to. Men are made to put the buck stops here. And we gotta take accountability. We've let this go on for a while. We can't talk trash to the women who are trying and us staying on the sidelines. And it starts with us. again, there's gonna be a time where all this crumbles to the ground. And ⁓ just like COVID.
Pedro Espinoza (39:56)
Can't ruffle feathers, can't rattle cages.
TIm Reed (40:24)
when it was dashed upon and those church, they cowards, the cowards in the church closed the doors. I don't mean to be offensive if you closed your doors and you're listening to this podcast, but you did it. ⁓ You're gonna do it again. I promise you. You may have a voice and I don't wanna be mean right now. You may have a voice. I'm not gonna do that again. You're gonna do that again. You're gonna be scared. You're gonna close the door because that's just how it's gonna happen. And that's a prophecy.
⁓ I'm telling you right now everything that I'm telling you is prophetic and again, I There are no prophets. Okay, just just for your audience if anybody says they're a prophet they're a liar ⁓ The the prophets stopped the prophets stopped with John the Baptist and Jesus said it himself The prophets and the law are until now ⁓ Until John that's what Jesus said the prophets in the law until John why because a prophet was a mediator
from God to man. And who is the mediator now? It's Jesus. Jesus is the mediator. We don't need prophets, right? And the Holy Spirit comes with that. We have empowerment. We are the temple. ⁓ So we are empowered with the Holy Spirit. There's no need for a mediator other than Jesus. So there are no prophets. Now there are people that prophesy and there are people that I've experienced it. There are people that prophesy, but there are no more prophets. Besides Jesus saying, ⁓
the law and the prophets were until John, ⁓ and that's where it stopped. John was the last prophet. He also put the law and the prophets to bed in the transfiguration when he took Peter, James, and John up to the hill and he transfigured, and he had Elijah and Moses. Moses represents the law, right? And then you got Elijah that represents the prophets. He was the greatest of all the prophets, was Elijah. The greatest of all, ⁓
The law was represented by Moses because he brought the Ten Commandments. And then you had Peter putting his foot in his mouth, said, this is a very good thing, Lord. We shall make three tents, one for Elijah, one for you, and one for ⁓ Moses. And then he got chewed out by God himself, which must have been scary, because God was making it known at that moment. Jesus is greater than the law. He's greater than the prophets. You cannot compare these individuals with him.
and that's why he got yelled at. Jesus was putting to bed the law and the prophets when he transfigured. So that's another example of that. But anyways, prophecy, yes. And what I'm telling you right now, you close your doors once, you're gonna do it again. I'm just telling you. And it's gonna happen. that men, we gotta be ready to rise up as men.
Pedro Espinoza (43:12)
Close your doors in what sense? I think I'm following you, but I just want to just be clear. Are you talking about when COVID occurred and-
TIm Reed (43:14)
⁓ COVID-19
happened and they were mandated by the government to close your doors and you can no longer go to church. ⁓ It's gonna happen again. Now when I'm saying that no stone will be on another, I'm not talking about the church that I go to, I'm not talking about it's physically gonna be knocked down into rubble.
Pedro Espinoza (43:21)
Right, okay.
That's what it is. Okay.
TIm Reed (43:44)
the blueprint of the westernized church, there's not gonna be one stone left upon another. It's gonna be an empty building and all the other churches are gonna be empty as well. That's what I mean.
Pedro Espinoza (43:56)
Times are getting serious. I don't know where you stand on this, I'm a firm believer that we're living in the end times.
TIm Reed (44:04)
Yeah, 100%. We are 1000 % living in the end times. I'm not gonna pretend know everything. I read revelations and I hear the commentaries and I read it myself and I have my own opinions. it says things like the fig tree generation. In 1948, when the Jews came back to Israel, that's the fig tree generation. And when it blooms,
Pedro Espinoza (44:06)
What's your take?
TIm Reed (44:31)
⁓ You know that summer is near and ⁓ this generation will not pass away until they see the coming of the Lord, which was 75 years ago or something like that. And God says a generation is 70 years ⁓ or by 80 if by strength. ⁓ So, and we're at 75. ⁓ So it appears as if we are in the last days and it appears that God is coming back soon. ⁓
but there has to be that outpouring, right? There has to be an outpouring of God's Spirit, and that's going to happen when the Westernized Church is dismantled. It's a return to the Book of Acts. ⁓ They didn't experience the tongues of fire over their head at the temple, right? They experienced it in the closed rooms when they were waiting on the Lord, and that's how it's going to happen. And even in the Book of Acts, ⁓
in Acts 2, and it says, daily they went to the temple courts. Because I said, God, if the church is going to be destroyed and you're saying we're returning to the book of Acts, how are they daily going to the temple courts? I don't get it. And he says, well, you need to do some research. So take a look. And that's the picture that I found. And the picture, it shows that there's multiple courts. And you can tell by looking at the picture that they were
four times removed from the actual main court where the priests are. You have the priestly court, you have the men's court, you have the women's court, you have the gentiles court. And the gentiles court is on the outskirts of the temple. It's not even in the temple, it's on the outskirts of the temple. And that's where they sold things. In the first temple, that's where you were able to learn about God. Of course, that temple was destroyed, they rebuilt the second temple.
and then it changed into where the money changers were, ⁓ and Jesus flipped the tables and whipped everybody. That was the Gentile courts. We know because they were Christians, they were not allowed in the temple. ⁓ You're either a priest, or you're separated and you go to the man's area or the woman's area, or you go to the Gentile courts, and there is the marketplace, and that's where people can openly talk about things. ⁓
God is showing me that He is removing us from the Westernized Church. He's removing us. And you go to any church now, you start to see there's a birthing of small groups. God is preparing us for the Westernized Church to fall down because of small groups. People say, what a great idea, small groups. It's growing our church, and that's what we want. But the pastors have no idea that they are preparing for judgment.
Pedro Espinoza (47:03)
you
TIm Reed (47:22)
on their own church and they're preparing their church to be dispersed and sent out and return to the book of Acts where they met in their homes every single day. And that's when the outpouring, the true outpouring is gonna happen when the delusion ⁓ is no longer ⁓ infused into the church. ⁓ The church is, the church, I don't wanna say cursed. God uses all people.
and he uses all things and he brings the glory. We are men, ⁓ mankind, and God forever has worked with us, right? The way the Westernized church is, is not what God wants. I'll work with you. That's what God says all the time. Hey God, we want a king. We want a king, but God says, I'm your king for Israel. Israel says this to God, you know? No, no, no, we want a king. God says, I'm your king.
No, we want a king. I'll work with you. Right? And so he gives them a king. Of course, the kings treat them like garbage. ⁓ And they have one or two kings that were really good, but they paid for it. Right? God works with them though. He allows it. Hey God, I know ⁓ marriage is supposed to be between a man or a woman, but you know, I want two or three wives. I want three or four. No, that's why a man leaves his mother and father to be united with his wife. It's one man, one woman.
Yeah, but I want three or four, but I'll work with you. And we hear about these individuals in the Bible that had multiple wives. works, God works with our failures, even though we are stubborn people. So just because the Westernized church is up doesn't mean it has the stamp of approval of God. The stamp of approval is the book of Acts. That's when the Holy Spirit was poured out and nobody was for wanting. That's when everybody came together.
and everybody paid for everybody. If you had a need, it was done right then and there. Now everything's funneled to one man, right? It's a pyramid. You have God on top, you have a pyramid on the bottom, and you have the people of the church on the bottom. Everything's funneled to one man, and that's how Satan controls the church. If I could control one man, then I could control the church. If I can control the pastor, and there's people that need things in the church,
but he's gonna be the one to disperse out where the money goes. And you have people just suffering day in and day out. That is not the book of Acts. The westernized church does not have the stamp of approval of God, yet God works through it anyways, because all things work for the good for those who are in Christ. But we are a stubborn people.
Pedro Espinoza (50:07)
I was trying out what you were saying about the church works through one man and that's how Satan wants it, but now I understand. So you're right, it is through the pastor and there are pastors nowadays, they're just crazy. There's pastors, they have on stage twerking. There's pastors who are dressing effeminate. ⁓
TIm Reed (50:29)
Yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (50:31)
preaching ⁓ false messages saying that sex before marriage is okay. It's crazy. We're living in some weird times.
TIm Reed (50:40)
Yeah, yeah, I saw someone getting their
haircut while preaching that he was he was sitting on stage and he was getting he was getting his haircut and lined up ⁓ while you know, like I don't know what he was trying to show but he was having it's nuts it like you're exactly right people have have gone way overboard and that this is the judgment and I'm not gonna say that every church is
Pedro Espinoza (51:02)
They're like pouring
syrup on the Like pouring chocolate syrup on the Bible. Yeah.
TIm Reed (51:05)
Yeah, I saw that. I saw that too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is a judgment coming and there's very few churches that hit the nail on the head. ⁓ Even the church that I go to ⁓ doesn't. All you gotta do is believe. Yeah, that's right. All you gotta do is believe. What they're saying is right. ⁓ Salvation is through belief, but believe in what? You guys keep saying believe, but believe in what? You've never...
dealt with what it is that you have to believe in and the Bible if you look it says there's a specific thing that you have to believe in but it's almost like things stop to a certain point when you're in the westernized church and you just can't break through and of course God alone is the one that brings salvation salvation belongs to the Lord right that's in that's in the Bible always it's not me that brings the word it's not anybody that's listening to me if you get anything out of it it's because God granted it
not me. I don't speak well. I'm not talented. I don't do anything but give obedience and that's all. You know what I'm saying?
Pedro Espinoza (52:12)
almost sounds prosperity.
TIm Reed (52:12)
No, no, yeah.
⁓ Yeah, ⁓ God's biggest takeaway is grace. Now there's a difference. We want discipleship, right? The Great Commission is discipleship. Go out into the world and preach the gospel to the ends of the earth, ⁓ making disciples, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That's discipleship, right? ⁓ But discipleship is not the good news.
Pedro Espinoza (52:19)
in a way.
Yeah.
Yes.
TIm Reed (52:45)
The good news is free. Ephesians 2, 8, 9. It is by grace that you are saved. It is a free gift, not by works, lest no man should boast. Salvation is free, but if you want to be a disciple, that's going to cost you. So we know that the salvation is through belief in the gift, the free gift of eternal life, Ephesians 2, 8, 9. However, God
wants effective individuals. That's why he says make disciples. He didn't say go out into the world and spread the good news. He said go out to the world and create disciples because he wants the good news to go out to be effective and make individuals that spread the good news. So there's a difference between the good news and ⁓ the great commission. It's two different things. God wants effective individuals. ⁓ We want to spread that salvation is free.
But we also want to say that you'll find true freedom on this earth if you become a disciple and put your hands to the plow. It has nothing to do with salvation. Once you get salvation, you're saved. But for the rest of your life, you're going to be a miserable person if you don't follow suit and you're a daughter or a son of God ⁓ and find yourself ⁓ destitute ⁓ while on earth. ⁓
Right.
Pedro Espinoza (54:14)
What do you think of the passage? I think it's 1 Corinthians 12, 12 through 31. It's kind of a lengthy passage, but it refers to the concept that the church as Christ's body is made up of diverse individuals, each playing a unique role. And obviously there's a difference Great Commission and what was it you said?
TIm Reed (54:30)
Yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful.
⁓ You got the good news and the great commission, right? Yeah, right.
Pedro Espinoza (54:45)
the Good News and the Great Commission, do
you think that everyone is uniquely, well has a unique role in the body of Christ?
TIm Reed (54:56)
Yeah, absolutely. So here's another blessing, ⁓ another reality. Some of you out there ⁓ may not have lot of talents, right? You may not be gifted at all. ⁓ God doesn't care about that stuff. God doesn't see what man sees. God sees the heart. Some of you ⁓ take the widow when ⁓ the disciples were noticing all the Pharisees giving out of their riches at the temple.
right? And then ⁓ you had the one widow gave everything she had. It was a little copper coin. And God said, that woman has given ⁓ has given more to the kingdom anyone else, for they gave out of her riches, she gave out her being poor. She had nothing. And all she had was minimal, but she was obedient. ⁓ The rewards that she has ⁓
She's done more for the kingdom. She gained more reward than any of those Pharisees putting their talents or their money in. And then you go to the parable of the talents, right? You have individuals that don't have much, but they do things, and God rewards you accordingly. You have individuals that have vast amount of talents, and they'll do great and mighty works, but they might not get
as much reward in heaven as the one individual that was always obedient and just couldn't get things right on this world, but they were always obedient. You you have one individual, they may have gotten one or two people saved in all their lives, but they were obedient and they struggled all their life. They'll enter the kingdom of heaven because of that obedience versus somebody that it was just a knack. They just had this talent and people gravitated to them, you know, and many people were born again. fascinating verse.
that Paul says, ⁓ virtually he says, I'm not gonna assume my rewards. I don't even know what I'll have when I get there because only God sees the heart. All the things that I've done, I'm not assuming I'm getting anything. God sees the heart and that heart posture is what is the determining factor of your rewards in heaven, you know?
Pedro Espinoza (57:15)
definitely want to talk about hard posture because those two words I never heard of before until I went to your small group and ever since then I've been using them and they really resonate with me. But before we get into that, Matthew chapter 7, 22 and 23. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name?
TIm Reed (57:23)
Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Pedro Espinoza (57:38)
cast out demons in your name and done many wonders in your name and then I will declare to them, I never knew you, from me, you who practice lawlessness. So it's not works based. I think a lot of people get it confused.
TIm Reed (57:50)
Right. Yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (57:55)
not going to call out certain denominations. That's not my heart, but I just think a lot of people, it's tricky and they get it confused. They believe it's work-based and no amount of work can grant your way into heaven. Our works are but of filthy rags God, right? So it's not about works. It's about grace.
TIm Reed (58:12)
Yeah, right.
Pedro Espinoza (58:21)
that the free gift of grace and the willingness to receive it, but what follows behind it, it's your faith, right? So it's saved by grace faith, not by works. And you actually taught me that, brother.
TIm Reed (58:34)
Yeah,
yeah, absolutely. That is one of the scariest passages I've ever heard in my life. Was it Matthew 7, 21, 22, yeah, yeah, so for anyone that's bothered by that passage, you gotta understand, separate that into two groups, okay? You have the people, just like my brother said,
Pedro Espinoza (58:45)
Matthew 7, 22, well yeah, it's the whole thing.
TIm Reed (59:00)
that are depending on workspace salvation. And then you have the people that believe, right? And on that day, many will come to me and say, Lord, Lord, and will not enter the kingdom of heaven, but those who do the will of my Father will enter the kingdom. Those who do the will of my Father enter the kingdom. Okay, I'll get back to that. And on that day, they'll say to me, but Lord, didn't I prophesy in your name? Didn't I do many miracles in your name?
Didn't I do all these things? And I'll say to them, I never knew you, depart from me. So you have the people that just tried to work, but their rags are filthy and they can never meet that mark. And then you had the people that did the will of the Father. What's the will of the Father? If you look at John 6, 40, the will of the Father is this, that you believe in the Son. It's only belief that gets you to heaven.
that gets you eternal life. You'll never be good enough. And for anybody listening to this, the only place in the Bible that shows the blueprint of salvation is the woman at the well. And you see the parable of the kingdom, the treasure in the field, that's everybody. The treasure in the field is the truth, is the truth of salvation.
You know, the parable goes that a man saw a field and he found a treasure and he found that treasure to be great and he wanted the field so he reburied the treasure. He sold all he had. The selling is the idea. All your ideas and what you understand about life, he got rid of it. He sold all he had to obtain the treasure, which is the free grace, Ephesians 2, 8, 9. belief is the key.
So you got the woman at the well. and this ties into the destruction of the church. ⁓ He did ⁓ another insight of how the the temple is gonna be brought down. He said, women, ⁓ there'll be a time where you'll no longer praise God on this hill or in Jerusalem, but you'll praise God in ⁓ spirit and truth, right? Heart posture. You'll praise God in spirit.
and truth and heart posture, I'm telling you, it's everything. You could say all you have to do is believe. All you have to do is believe in the gift, right? That's the blueprint. You believe in the one that gives the gift and you believe that the gift is for you and it's free. That's the blueprint. Anyone that wants to look at the blueprint, the only place you'll find it is the woman at the well, John Four, John Four, I believe. So if you wanna study that yourself and find out if you're saved, John Four, and he hid it.
He hid that by speaking with a woman because all these years and thousands of years when people read this and say, he's just talking to a woman. I don't care about this. That's the treasure in the field. He hid, it's a parable. hides the truth so that in hearing they will not hear. Those that are not ready to hear, they will not hear. Those that are not ready to see, they will not see. Salvation is hidden. Why is it hidden? Because only God can show you. ⁓
The kingdom is just in 2 Corinthians 4.34. But even if our gospel is veiled, it's veiled. The gospel is veiled. That's why churches don't say the truth. You go to it. It's God's job to teach and show salvation. Not mine, not any pastors. It's only God. But 2 Corinthians 4.33 and 4. even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds
the God of this age has blinded who do not believe, who do not believe, they do not believe, lest the light of the gospel, if they believe the light of the gospel, the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. It's only through belief. The belief in the gift, believe in the one who gives it. Believe in the gift, believe in the one that gives it. It is by grace you are saved, it is a free gift, not of works, so that no man may boast. Ephesians 2, 8 and 9.
It is only through belief. taking a look at those that did works in Matthew 7, 21, who went to hell, and that's all they did, they called him Lord, Lord, Lord. They said, hey, who wants to receive Jesus into your heart? Raise your hand. I want to receive Jesus into my heart. Is that the blueprint of salvation? Say this prayer with me ⁓ so that you receive Jesus into Jesus be the Lord of my life. Is that?
What gets people saved? They started off by saying, Lord, Lord, people will come to me and say, Lord, Lord, and will not enter the kingdom of heaven. So is making Jesus the Lord of your life get you into heaven? didn't for them. They did mighty works. Have I ever cast out demons? Have I ever ⁓ did many miracles like they did? They were doing all these miracles because God uses anybody and everybody to get His message across, and He used them.
But they were cursed. ⁓ So raising your hand in church and saying, I want to receive Jesus into my heart. Is receiving Jesus into your heart get you saved? Is making Jesus Lord of your life get you saved? Not according to Matthew 721. God loves you, everyone so much. He did all the work. At least acknowledge the work. When he is finished. His work, his perfection was finished.
tilted his head on the cross and died. He did all the work and at least we should acknowledge he not only died for us, but he lived for us. Just acknowledge that he wants to give you the free gift. That's not difficult. That's the easiest thing in the world to me. To me it is. But it's veiled. People don't want to accept that because they're of this world and it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that something so special
would be so easily attainable, you know?
Pedro Espinoza (1:05:08)
I just don't understand why and I want your thoughts on this. I don't get why it's veiled. is it so like just covered up and you don't want to like just hurt anyone's feelings. You don't want you want to keep church attendance up. You know you want your ratings high. I kind of get that but like this is church we're talking about. This is Christianity for crying out loud. Why is it
TIm Reed (1:05:17)
Yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (1:05:37)
watered down.
TIm Reed (1:05:39)
Yeah, because it doesn't resonate with the flesh. ⁓ Think about it. Going back to Adam and Eve, like we talked beforehand, ⁓ when they sinned, they took the fruit off the tree and they ate it and their eyes were opened. They lost their provisions from God. Everything that God used to do to take care of them, whether it was food or clothing or a wonderful place to sleep, taking them out and showing them things.
⁓ Just everything, God, it was paradise. God took care of everything. One of the things that happened when they sinned and they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden, now they have to provide for themselves. You will work by the sweat of your brow. That is our destiny, right? And that's the blueprint of life. If you want to do well in life, if you want to have provisions the way God took care of you,
you will work by the sweat of your brow. If you don't, you will shrivel up and die. ⁓ So ⁓ there's a mathematical equation ⁓ for us to take accountability of the first sin so that we work by the sweat of our brow for our physical salvation, right? So we translate everything ⁓ physically into spiritually. So you think,
Now if we if we have to provide for our own salvation by working Right. Well, how do we I know I know how I have salvation ⁓ and provision by working But now I translate over that spiritually, right? So the flesh ⁓ Dictates the spirit ⁓ So it doesn't make sense that we wouldn't work every single religion that's out there It is by works
You know, ⁓ and that because why because it is it woven into the cost of us rebelling against God in the Garden of Eden so ⁓ The the regular man but at first Corinthians 2 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness to him Okay, the things of God are foolishness to the natural man
It is only when God shows you and lifts up the veil do you see the truth. You cannot see the truth unless God lifts up the veil, which is terrifying. You cannot stumble across the truth. It is God who draws you to Him. And we talked about how in 1 Corinthians 4.34, how the truth is veiled. And we also talked about in 1 Corinthians 2.14, how the truth is foolishness, right?
And it's foolishness to not work our salvation. So everybody says, okay, salvation makes sense only if I'm working for it.
It's the curse. It's the curse of the garden.
Pedro Espinoza (1:08:34)
That's really good.
that gives me fresh perspective because I get frustrated when certain churches are preaching a softball message they want them to feel good. They want church attendance to be consistent. You know, they want their ratings to be up, but they're sacrificing that for
TIm Reed (1:08:57)
Yes. Yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (1:09:03)
solid doctrine.
TIm Reed (1:09:05)
Yeah, and ⁓ they will be judged accordingly. ⁓ Those who teach are judged more harshly than anyone else. And I don't have the Bible verse for that, but you guys can write it down and look it up yourself. They have a duty to seek out God, but the problem is that they're indoctrinated into ⁓ the oral law. In Jesus' time, the oral law existed.
Pedro Espinoza (1:09:12)
Yikes.
TIm Reed (1:09:34)
the Pharisees interpreted law of God, and then they changed it to fit the square peg into the round hole to satisfy what they wanted. The oral law is still alive and well today. We just don't acknowledge it. does a pastor say that you have to work for your salvation? Well, guess what? This pastor has a family and families need to eat. ⁓
It doesn't make sense to say, all you have to do is believe. All you got to do is believe and you have salvation forever. ⁓ It makes more sense to say, you got to keep these pews filled, brother. If we don't keep these pews filled, you're going to hell because daddy's got to feed mama. So it's easier to say, if you don't do this, then this will happen. But that's counterproductive what God wants.
God wants the free gift to give to people because once we understand His grace and His mercy and just how rich He is in His love, we want to, my God, I can't believe what you've done for me and there's nothing that I could do that would throw this away just because you love me so much. I'm going to live for you. It says, love because He loved us first. His love for us, His deep love for us pulls us out to who we need to be.
It's not us trying to be a better, if you are saved already, it's his love that will pull you closer and refine you, not our effort. There's nothing that we do that refines us or turns us who he finally wants us to be. It's the love that we understand. We have to understand the depth of it. And the more we understand it, the more we don't want to disrupt it. The more we don't want to abandon it because it's so great and it cannot be lost.
Pedro Espinoza (1:11:22)
I'll say like this, so doing good works is a byproduct of our salvation. It's not we perform these works to a reward of salvation. It's being saved, believing in that through faith and ⁓ repenting, turning your life around and following Christ. Because of that, because of being born again, you naturally want to
to do good works, good deeds, fill in the blank.
TIm Reed (1:11:53)
Right.
Yeah, the works of the fruit is not the root. If the root is where it's supposed to be, then the fruit will emerge. Right. And a lot of people get the book of James confused ⁓ because it talks a lot about works-based ⁓ living. But if you really were to dive into that, ⁓ even the most basic theologians understand that it's not talking saved by works.
⁓ In fact, if it was, then it would be in direct conflict with the Bible. It would be untrue. know, just for example, in the book of James, it talks about how Abraham was saved when he offered up his son. how can that be when Paul stated that Abraham was saved when he looked up into the stars and believed in God? ⁓ So we have two different events that are separated within like 25 or 30 years in time where Paul says he was saved.
When he looked up at the stars and believed and then he said James when he was saved when he actually did the works that God wanted him to do it's it's ⁓ James is about people Viewing you and seeing I got you that you will know them by their fruits. And that's what the book of James is It's about it's about people understanding that you're saved by your works And people confuse that a lot. So if anybody has stumbling blocks with the book of James
It's about people understanding who is saved and who is not by their works.
Pedro Espinoza (1:13:22)
Or Come to the Man's Man led by Tim Reed and Pedro Espinosa. Yeah, I wanted to to go back to this point. You were talking about there is a distinction between the like the real outpouring a regular outpouring, for lack of a better way to say it.
TIm Reed (1:13:25)
Yeah, right. And September. And Pedro. That's right. Yeah, yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (1:13:48)
I can kind of push back on that a little bit. So I do see and I do notice that there is an outpouring in today's age. So there's there's people being saved in prisons. There is outpouring in college campuses. ⁓ Ohio State went viral over and tons of students giving their lives to Christ on the campus. And then they went on to win the national championship that year, ironically,
TIm Reed (1:14:01)
Yeah. ⁓
Pedro Espinoza (1:14:14)
And then there's also these revivals breaking out in grocery stores. I don't know if you've seen the viral clips on social media where there's worship breaking out in a Walmart store. Like, I don't think I've ever heard of anything like that happening. And then even in like city squares, there's worship breaking out in city squares. There's there is Christian media that is being projected on the big screens in city squares.
TIm Reed (1:14:25)
Yeah, yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (1:14:43)
in a secular culture that is very rare. So there's obviously this outpouring, but then there's a true outpouring that's going to occur. Help me understand that.
TIm Reed (1:14:51)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so
true, so the depth of God and how he is, how the Holy Spirit is passed over directly correlates with struggles. For whatever reason, there's an algebraic equation, mathematical equation to where
as the world or the enemy increased that much more will the Holy Spirit increase as well. So you're 100 % right. We are in a time where the unveiling is coming up and people are taking note. And what's so important is that we actually, as people are saying, wow, there's something about this Jesus guy, we gotta show them the truth so that they understand to give the Holy Spirit an opportunity.
Pedro Espinoza (1:15:39)
Yeah.
TIm Reed (1:15:56)
to actually ⁓ show them and unveil their eyes. ⁓ take for instance, Constantine in the Roman Empire, he legalized Christianity and that had a certain effect towards the religion. When Rome became, the official religion of Rome became Christianity, it's almost like,
you can loosen your grip now. ⁓ They couldn't stop Christianity at all. And you have people like Nero that were using Christians as candles. ⁓ it was growing. was unstoppable. ⁓ It was an unstoppable force. when Constantine made Christianity the official language, there's a lull. You kind of go to sleep, you know, ⁓ because the need is not there to cling on to Christ.
⁓ When things are bad, it seems like that's when we find Jesus even more. ⁓ So turn that around. When Christianity was outlawed and Nero was killing everybody, and then when Constantine legalized Christianity, there was a lull in Christianity, and the passion and the desire to cling to God for salvation physically ⁓ was there. It kind of lost its touch, and then it moved into where we're at here. But it's going to flip.
We're in the lull and you have the 10 virgins and the five virgins that are, all of them are sleeping, by the way. All the virgins are sleeping and when it's time to wake up and there are bad times and the church is held accountable and it gets ⁓ taken down, ⁓ people will cling to God even more and then you'll see the real outpouring. So yes, it's happening, but it's like a snowball that's starting to roll down a hill and that grows bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
Yeah. ⁓
Pedro Espinoza (1:17:53)
Exactly.
And you said something very key there. You said, well, at least you implied that when Satan's working, Jesus is working overtime. Right. That's basically what you alluded to. And you're right. So what are we seeing now in today's culture? Right. We're seeing the rise of transgenderism. We're seeing the overtake of pride. We're seeing crime rates are skyrocketing.
⁓ Everything is just anarchy. ⁓ The practice of witchcraft is running rampant. And then all this sex trafficking, all this unbelievable stuff that's occurring. But on the other side of that, you have light, have Jesus' Spirit, His presence, the Holy Spirit. He's working overtime and we're starting to feel it.
TIm Reed (1:18:31)
rampant.
Yeah, right.
Pedro Espinoza (1:18:50)
more men, I think there was just ⁓ a recent stat on this, more men are coming to Christ before. More young people are coming to Christ. ⁓ There's just all of this stuff changing and working toward God's favor. So it's like, it's the exact snowball analogy that you were talking about. ⁓
TIm Reed (1:18:57)
really? Yeah.
Yeah.
Right, right. Make
no mistake, the chess pieces are being put in place. I believe you. I know for a fact what you're saying is right, more young people are coming to Christ. ⁓ I love the fact that you said that more men are coming to Christ. That is encouraging. I'd love to see the data on that. ⁓ But make no mistake, for such a time as this, ⁓ we are here. And even though
Pedro Espinoza (1:19:32)
Yeah, I'm gonna send it to you.
TIm Reed (1:19:39)
A manly man is not relevant in the church today. You will be so needed ⁓ when the time comes. So prepare yourself now in the light ⁓ so that we can shine in the darkness when it comes.
Pedro Espinoza (1:19:54)
Yes, exactly. Yeah, before we talk about the man's man and just all the great work that that small group alone can do, we did sort of touch on this and it's the influence that Hollywood and media has on people and men alike. So I know that Satan's agenda is all over Hollywood or Hollywood, if you will.
TIm Reed (1:20:16)
Yeah. Right.
Pedro Espinoza (1:20:24)
It's in their advertised media. mean, it's in your face. the devil is showing his cards. I just want to know, I want you to talk about that alone has on the rest of society.
TIm Reed (1:20:39)
Mm-hmm.
man, is intentional that everything is seen in Hollywood, everything that they show us. ⁓ For anybody that doesn't know anything about MK Ultra, ⁓ MK Ultra was a real thing where in World War II, they started messing with people's minds. see it in today's movies where they fantasize it. ⁓
⁓ Netflix's show with Eleven, whatever that show was called, Stranger Things, where she was an MKUltra individual and she has superpowers. And then you see things like Born or The Winter Soldier when they start saying these magic words that release him into being this soldier, the Manchurian candidate. ⁓
the going into, it's everywhere. They are teaching us with this MK Ultra, which is real. They're teaching us that it's impossible to, it's possible to control your mind. So they show it to you over and over in Hollywood, over and over and over. They are training us on how to act, how to think, and how to perceive when things happen. And these individuals that are of the world who see this over and over and over.
There is a moment where they release people and the people will imitate what they see on the television They they want you to see the people ⁓ involved in MKUltra in these movies to show you it's possible to to give your mind up to faction this this is they're showing the possibility of it and they keep showing if you were to do a Google search on all the MKUltra ⁓ mind control movies
It is rampant. Why is it so important? Because they want to show you that it's possible to control the mind. And if you're either a father, your father is either father of lies or father up in heaven. There is no middle. There is no middle. ⁓ God made it very clear that if your father is not God himself or Jesus, your father is the world. And you are trained.
to be what needs to be when the time comes. So that's why infuse this into our media. So when the time comes, we act the way they want us to act.
Pedro Espinoza (1:23:11)
Yeah, I did a movie review on the movie Sinners. That's episode 14. Have you heard or seen the movie?
TIm Reed (1:23:12)
Okay.
No, I never heard of that.
Pedro Espinoza (1:23:22)
It's with Michael B. Jordan, it's with Steinfeld, she's ⁓ movie, throws subtle jabs at Christianity, just like every secular movie does. And in that movie,
There's so many themes about it that is counterfeit so The vampires in that movie they're what we would describe as demons and then number two the the witchcraft in that film so they they practice who do and who do is basically practice that that goes back to African ancestors and
And it's a very, it's an African based practice. It's witchcraft. idolize the practice of hoodoo, of sin, ⁓ sexual immorality, are just some examples of what Hollywood tries to do because
They know very well that Jesus is alive and they try best that they can do to tear down very fabric of Christianity through movies, images, all that stuff.
TIm Reed (1:24:39)
yeah. Yeah,
it's even more than that. you the Kabbalah Kabbalah Kabbalah, the religion of they want to bring their Kabbalah, right? Am I saying it right? ⁓ They want to bring their Messiah in. Yeah, they want to bring their Messiah in and
Pedro Espinoza (1:24:51)
Kabbalah.
think so. Yeah.
TIm Reed (1:25:02)
and this is something you all can look up because it's crazy and it makes so much sense. ⁓ What they do to bring their Messiah in because in their scriptures their Messiah comes when the world is perverse, when it's sinful, and so they want to haste the ⁓ coming of their Messiah by infusing the world with sin and with degradation because the more they put into that, into the world, the quicker their Messiah is going to come.
⁓ which is fascinating and ⁓ evil. ⁓ besides them hating Jesus and saying that he's in hell boiling in urine, ⁓ they're saying that their Messiah is coming, but it takes a sinful world. So they're infusing LGBTQ. They're infusing ⁓ all these racisms and hate towards each other. ⁓ It's for a purpose.
Pedro Espinoza (1:26:00)
It's Jewish mysticism that delves into the esoteric and hidden meanings of the Torah and other Jewish texts. It aims to provide a deeper understanding of God, the universe and humanity's place within them, ⁓ the relationship between the finite world and the infinite God, seeking to understand how the divine manifests in the physical realm. ⁓ interesting.
TIm Reed (1:26:08)
Yes.
Yeah,
yeah, so they're looking for their Messiah, and their Messiah comes when the world is ⁓ entrenched in sin, and it's worth it to them to bring their Messiah, which is ⁓ almost biblical. There will be a man that claims that he is the Messiah when the world in 2 Timothy ⁓ loses their hope in...
And so it's almost like, ⁓ it's almost like Caiaphas. Caiaphas knew that ⁓ he was the head Pharisee and he said in a vision that God gave him a vision stating that Jesus would die for ⁓ Israel's sins. And Caiaphas was the worst of the worst. But yet he was preaching ⁓ the word of God unknowingly. And that's what...
Jewish mysticism is doing, unfortunately. ⁓
Yeah, the heavens declare thy glory.
Pedro Espinoza (1:27:26)
Have you heard of
this?
Have you heard of this Abdullah Hashim guy? This Abdullah Hashim figure? He's making the rounds what do think of him?
TIm Reed (1:27:34)
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, to be
honest, if you take a look at him and it's weird to me ⁓ how staged it is and you look at the people and they're all wearing the same clothes. ⁓ To me, it's only me. It's my opinion. I haven't looked too down deep into It ⁓ looks like a CIA operative. ⁓ looks fake to me. When I see his church and I see the way he's talking.
Pedro Espinoza (1:27:51)
and the beanie.
Yeah.
TIm Reed (1:28:04)
Yeah, he's picking up a lot of notoriety and I think there's a reason for that. Why? I have no idea. But when I see him talking in that room when he first came and they panned to his believers and they were wearing the same thing, I was like, okay, this is ridiculous. It doesn't fit right to me. In my spirit, seems like it's 100 % counterfeit, but why? Why is it counterfeit? I don't believe that that's the Antichrist. What do I know?
Pedro Espinoza (1:28:18)
You
TIm Reed (1:28:33)
⁓ There were over 300 prophecies that Jesus was the Messiah and nobody got it. ⁓ Nobody understood that He was standing right in front of them. There was so much data for the Pharisees to see. Like, is the Christ, this is the Messiah, and they didn't see it. Nobody's going to understand Revelations because it's not as detailed as the coming of Jesus. We think we know, but we have no idea what the final outtake is going to be.
It'll make sense when it's done. It'll all fit like a puzzle piece to me.
Pedro Espinoza (1:29:08)
Yeah, this guy's claiming to be the successor of Simon Peter, the successor to Jesus Christ. Those words are a little...
TIm Reed (1:29:09)
Thank
Yeah. Yeah. And he failed. He failed when he said that.
Yeah. He failed when he says, I'm the successor of Peter. And he said that Paul, Paul was a heretic. ⁓ He screwed up there because if he was a success, yeah, he was a successor of Peter. Peter states that Paul's words were very hard to understand, but he confirmed and put the stamp on his words saying,
Pedro Espinoza (1:29:30)
He's false. Right. That's what he said.
TIm Reed (1:29:41)
those words are from God. Although Paul's words are very hard to understand, because Paul was all about ⁓ salvation by grace through faith. to be honest with you, the disciples, they struggled with that for a long time. That's why Paul and Barnabas and Peter, they got into an argument over it and they spread and they separated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. But they had an argument on theology and they broke apart.
Pedro Espinoza (1:30:02)
Was it Silas?
TIm Reed (1:30:10)
Of course, God uses everything, but the disciples, they didn't have a true understanding of the gospel until later times where Peter put the stamp of approval saying, I get it now. I understand. ⁓ Paul's teachings were very difficult for people to understand, but they are from God. So once that guy said it, it's all null and void. He doesn't know what he's talking about. You know what I love?
I love that God gave the biggest revelation to Paul. He gave the biggest revelation to someone wasn't physically with Jesus. Isn't that beautiful? We can have the revelations because we're, blessed is the man that ⁓ has ⁓ not seen, right? When he talks to Thomas, doubting Thomas and said, Thomas, you believe because you put your fingers in the holes in my hands and my side.
but blessed is the man who has not seen. You have the potential to have a better and stronger relationship with Jesus than the 12 disciples who are physically with him. Isn't that great? Paul never was with Jesus until the pre-incarnate Jesus, I'm sorry, ⁓ after his death, and he met him on the road to Damascus, ⁓ and then he had his encounter with Jesus. His relationship started there after the death of Jesus, but yet he wrote more than two-thirds of the Bible. You have the ability,
Pedro Espinoza (1:31:20)
Yeah.
TIm Reed (1:31:36)
to be closer to Jesus than the actual disciples who are with him on his journey, which is amazing to me. God's showing people, if you just stick with me, I will show you great and marvelous things.
Pedro Espinoza (1:31:51)
The heart is deceitful among all things. Who can truly know it?
TIm Reed (1:31:55)
Yeah, right. Yep. Yeah. Yep.
Pedro Espinoza (1:32:01)
Have we talked about the great falling away?
TIm Reed (1:32:05)
So the Great Falling Away ⁓ is we're in the middle of the Great Falling Away right now and again, this is a revelation that God has given me and for everybody that's listening, if I say God revealed something to me, put your hand on your wallet. If anybody ever says God revealed this to me, be like the Bereans and check it yourself, okay? Validate it.
Does this make sense? Because do not take the words of another individual as ⁓ gospel. You take God's word as gospel. I have lots of conversations with God, and he tells me things. Sometimes he blows me away. like, what are you talking about? One time he told me that ⁓ the Antiochus, out of nowhere, he told me that Antioch, the Antioch, Antiochus or Antioch were
Pedro Espinoza (1:32:35)
Right.
TIm Reed (1:33:03)
where ⁓ Christianity was birthed, was the individual that defiled the temple and put Zeus in. And I said, what are you talking about? He just told me that out of nowhere. And I had to do research. And it was his ⁓ grandson, grandson's grandson, who defiled the temple the great abomination that caused desolation ⁓ with the temple before Jesus and the Maccabees.
⁓ and he put Zeus in the temple. Later on down the line, the birth of Christianity happened in the city that was named after the guy that did that to the temple. God just told me that out of nowhere, and I had to do so much research. Like, God, I don't know what you're talking about. Like, this is something that's so out of the blue that he just told me, did you know? Because I live in Antioch. He said, did you know that Antioch blah, blah, blah, blah, blah? I said, God, that doesn't even make sense. What are you talking about? And so God wants to reveal things to you. ⁓
What were we talking about? We were talking about, ⁓ the great falling away. Yes. If you look at that scripture, I don't have the scripture on me. ⁓ It says that the great falling away is the abandonment of the truth. And the truth is that salvation is through belief. If you read the whole thing. ⁓ So the church has abandoned that idea and we are wholeheartedly
Pedro Espinoza (1:34:20)
⁓ yes. That's right.
TIm Reed (1:34:27)
set on workspace salvation. And when that happened, the great falling away from the truth, it's the falling away from the truth. And not many people think that you're saved by ⁓ grace through faith, ⁓ because they read all the different scriptures in the Bible that seems it says something else. And I got to be honest with you, the Bible, unless you are intimately ⁓ with
the Holy Spirit when reading the Bible, there's a lot of different traps that you could find yourself in while reading the Bible that will take you down paths that you don't want to go. The whole essence of Jesus is that He spoke in parables. Why did He speak in parables? His disciples asked Him, Jesus, why do You speak in parables? And He says, ⁓ so that those that see don't see and that those that hear don't hear.
He wanted to veil the gospel. He's keeping the gospel away from those that are not ready to hear it. And if Jesus is like that, and we see the Holy Spirit, and Jesus are one, and God are one, if Jesus talks in parables to fool people, to fool people, so that in seeing they don't see, and in hearing they don't hear, why do you speak in parables? He's hiding the truth. That's crazy to think about that. ⁓
If Jesus acted that way, then the Holy Spirit that inspires people to write acts that way too. So when you hear things in the Bible that talks about ⁓ that you need to persevere until the end ⁓ to be saved, or that I'm running the race and I have to run as if I'm trying to win a crown, and so that means I have to continue on in the faith, you are being deceived and the deception is there. That's why it's so important that you take the Holy Spirit with you.
Every time the disciples never understood the parables they never did and you know what Jesus told them? You'll know the parables because you have me and then what did he do? He explained exactly what the parable meant right right after he said that he says you know because they never understood the parable they didn't have any ⁓ any g2 knowledge they didn't have any knowledge in them that said ⁓ yeah that makes sense nobody understood it but Jesus came around on the back end and said okay this is what the seed and the sower means
This is what this seed is, and these are what the birds mean. And he breaks it down for them. Why do they know it? Because he told them. It's meant to veil the gospel. the Bible acts in the same way. So when you read your Bible, you gotta bring the Holy Spirit with you. please be with me as I read this. Let me not be distracted, or let me not be taken down the path, and he will be faithful to you. Because it's him
would give a child a snake if they asked for bread? How much more does your Heavenly Father want to give to you? There's wars that started from the Bible. You read the Bible and it's all about love and sacrifice, and then you get the individuals, the knights of the round table, the knights ⁓ that went down and killed millions of Muslims for the Bible, for the crusades, for the Bible. They were reading the Bible and they thought, yeah, that makes sense.
Pedro Espinoza (1:37:41)
the crusades.
TIm Reed (1:37:49)
Let me go chop off some heads. You know what I'm saying? Like the Bible is a weapon and it could be used against you. You have to have the Holy Spirit with you when you read it. You have to.
Yeah, yeah.
Pedro Espinoza (1:38:02)
⁓ Just a couple more things and we'll wrap up
So want to hear your thoughts on this because always hear a lot of people saying that told me and God spoke to me. So when you say that, because I've heard you saying it a couple of times here, when you say that, do you mean you heard the audible voice of God? Or do you you say it in a sense you're communicating that you felt him tugging on your heart?
TIm Reed (1:38:25)
Ahem.
Hmm. Yeah.
Yeah, it's a, I'll tell you what, man, it's a muscle. ⁓ The still small voice, that's what he is. He's the still small voice. And ⁓ when we get out, when we get away from this world, which is noisy in itself, he's a rushing water. When his voice sounds in heaven, it'll rock you to your core. But here, blessed is the man that believes and that does not see.
Pedro Espinoza (1:38:38)
Yeah.
TIm Reed (1:38:59)
⁓ You have Elijah when he was in the cave and he was running for his life and God said, I'm gonna come to you when I come to you then pick up your stuff and go and then you had the storm that came and God's voice was not in it and then you had the fires that came and God's voice was not in it. You had the earthquakes that came and God's voice was not in it and then you had the still small voice that came and he got up immediately knowing God's voice and he started going ⁓ where he ought to go, where God was telling him to go. There's a still small voice.
and you have to weigh it. You're going to hear yourself talk at the same time. then, was that me or was that God? And it goes back and forth. have Peter, who I talked about, ⁓ who do you say I am? You're the Christ, the Messiah. Blessed you, Simon Peter, for it is God that revealed that to you and not man. And then on the other hand, he's on the transfiguration saying, hey, God, we should make three-tenths, right? So he's...
He's hearing the still small voice in a couple different scenarios foolishly. He did it in the transfiguration. He listened to his own voice or the enemy's voice and and then ⁓ understanding who the messiah was he listened to he listened to the right still small voice. It's a muscle you you have to ⁓ when things come upon you and you you hear and you is that god you have to take it to the word and take it to the scripture and say does this line up
And if you want to hear God more, you have to take it. And you're like, whoa, that's not God at all. Like what he said was not God at all. And that was in my head. And you will learn the subtle differences. It's the still small voice.
Pedro Espinoza (1:40:38)
Yeah.
And I think the key is taking it back to scripture and that is your barometer to measure if it is from God's voice or if it's not because Satan can also plant intrusive thoughts and intrusive thoughts are not from God.
TIm Reed (1:40:47)
Mm-hm.
Yeah, yes.
yeah. Right. Yeah, we are. We are filtered. Everything in this world that we take in our visual, our hearing, it's filtered through the flesh and the flesh is death. We receive everything through the flesh. We we expel everything to the flesh. Our thoughts get ⁓ made up in our minds and they and it's filtered out to the flesh. We have to kill the flesh, but everything enters through the flesh. So how do you do that?
It's a growing, ⁓ it's the walk with Christ as you walk with Him. You'll learn to denounce the flesh more and more and more or identify when the flesh is trying to say something that's against ⁓ what you're saying. again, when people say, God said this to me, put your hand on your wallet. If I say, God said this to me, put your hand on your wallet. Go check, go validate. Nobody is going to say, hey, Tim said, that must mean God, no.
I'm not going to accept that. I only accept what the Holy Spirit says. ⁓ I don't listen to pastors. I don't listen to anybody. I listen to what the Holy Spirit says and I measure it out against the Word of God because I don't want to be deceived by anybody.
Pedro Espinoza (1:42:12)
Well, guys, lot of the passion and leadership that you're hearing and feeling from Tim now is so similar to the same passion and leadership that I got in his small group, The Man's Man. And Tim, if you want to just sort of wrap this up by talking about The Man's Man and your mission and purpose for that small group.
and sort of where you see that going in the future. But just if you can expand on that and then we'll wrap things up.
TIm Reed (1:42:46)
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely, Pedro. First of all, I just want to thank you for bringing me on the show. ⁓ I think it's awesome. And it's a real pleasure to be able to talk to you again. It's been a while. We've just been communicating through Instagram for a while. But just to see you again and talk to you, it's a real blessing to me. And it brought a smile on my face to see you. So I know we have a Holy Spirit connection, and I feel it. Yeah. The man's man is in preparation for the future. ⁓
Pedro Espinoza (1:43:07)
My pleasure, brother.
Yeah.
TIm Reed (1:43:16)
God says, ⁓ my gifts and my callings are irrevocable. ⁓ We know that salvation is a gift, it's irrevocable. In Revelations, it says my gifts and my callings are irrevocable. God called me to be a light in the darkness a long time ago, and regardless of the fact that I got up and I walked away from Him, He was merciful and He brought me back because He loves me so dearly.
He wants me to prepare and use the experiences that I experienced in my life, good and bad, to prepare for the next step in life. Men have to rise up and they have to understand their place. They must not be deceived by the world. They must not be deceived by what they see. And they must find their identity through Christ who made them to be a leader. And we're not, when I say a man's man, I'm not talking about a man.
that portrays manliness like in the movies. The man's man is Jesus. The man's man is Jesus and the best way we can become a man is to emulate that which is the greatest man and God, which is Jesus. The man's man is not a play on words to like, ⁓ I just want to be manly. But there's such a war on men right now. There's such a war to to degrade them and pull them down. And we're saying no, we're standing on the rock, which is Christ.
And we're going to learn about who we are and how we could ⁓ bring about the change in those that need it the most in this world. And you will be needed. So if you're out there and you're saying, man, I don't feel like I fit in as a man. I feel like things ⁓ aren't built for me. I feel like I'm an alien in a strange country. Don't worry. You are. But your time is coming. Mark my word. There will be a day when the people that ignored you
will look upon you and say, what's next brother? You know what I'm saying? They're gonna say, I don't know what the next move is. And you know what you're gonna do? You're gonna look up and you're gonna say, God, I need you in this moment. And God will deliver you because you prepared yourself when the times were good for the times of darkness. And that's what the man's man is.
Pedro Espinoza (1:45:33)
Yeah, yeah, I think that men today need to be stronger than ever before. And it's it's men like you, Tim, who are leading those circles and those spaces to to rise up the men of the near future. So that just like you just alluded to, they'll know what direction to take this all into, because they'll they'll be trained appropriately and accordingly. So, man.
The honor is mine to have you on this podcast to allow you to share your knowledge and your wisdom about the Word, about God, about Christianity. It's been very, very valuable. And I hope that a lot of people listen and watch this because there's a lot of just golden nuggets that they can take from this episode alone. ⁓
I always like to end it with this. What can you tell someone who is just struggling, they're facing a challenging season in their life and they can't see the light yet? What are some words of encouragement that you can offer them?
TIm Reed (1:46:47)
Mm-hmm.
⁓ You have to know if you're struggling and ⁓ And the failure like me I I couldn't I couldn't do it anymore I couldn't I couldn't work for God anymore and and do what I was doing at the time So I ran away from God. I didn't understand and and maybe next time I'll give my whole testimony ⁓ And a lot of things will fall into place ⁓ God prepared me
⁓ for me deserting him and he gave me visions. He gave me ⁓ people talking to me, giving me scriptures saying that you're gonna leave God. Like, gonna leave God, what you talking about? I'm the strongest I've ever been with him. You know, when I was 16, 17 years old. I tried to walk the walk on my own strength. And if you're walking the walk on your own strength, you will fall. You have to rely on the strength.
of Jesus. Take my yoke upon you, For my yoke is light, right? His yoke, he will take every ounce of weight off your shoulders and put his yoke. You know what his yoke is? The love for people. Take my love. To be able to have his yoke and just love people and want people, and he'll take everything else. You come to me, all who are weary and weak, I'll give you rest. Take my yoke.
⁓ Because my yoke is light it's it it's being able to give everything to him and say Wow, you did it. You took you took all my pain And and the love he loved he we love him because he loved us first You have to understand and realize that he loves you so deep that he will not leave you the the the prodigal son He left God God was always with him. Even though the product of Sun left him. God was this is cool. God was always with him
⁓ Because when he changed his mind off, changed his mind and said, I'm gonna go back to my father, it said, while he was still a long ways off, his father ran to him. As soon as he turned around, God was there, boom, and he met him. You can leave God, God does not leave you. He will not leave you. And that knowledge and understanding of that causes you to give him more. Rely on God's strength, not your own. If you do, you will fail. I know it because I live that.
Pedro Espinoza (1:49:13)
That's so powerful and I can't wait for September. It can't come soon enough. I'm just excited to do to lead this group with you and to reach those who are most in need to hear and feel the word. I mean, that's a whole separate thing. But again, man, the honor is mine. So glad you came here. are truly blessed and
Sky's the limit with what God wants to do in your life and what he already has prepared for you. So I'll be praying for that. ⁓ that's all I got, man. Any last words? We all need it.
TIm Reed (1:49:55)
I need it. I need it. Yeah. No, thank you. Thank you for having me on. ⁓
yeah, I look forward to talking to you again real soon.
Pedro Espinoza (1:50:05)
can people follow you? What is your social media handle for all this leadership, passion, and just wisdom?
TIm Reed (1:50:09)
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My social media handle, yeah.
My social media handle is my, I was a fat baby, so ⁓ my parents called me heavy duty gooey. And that's my ⁓ Instagram handle account, heavy duty gooey. It's, ⁓ let me see if I can even, it's H-E-A-V-Y-D-U-T-Y-G-O-O-E-Y. ⁓ On my TikTok account, ⁓
I have ⁓ it's called it's Timbo Slice like Kimbo Slice but Timbo T-I-M-B-O-S-L-I-C-E ⁓ or I am Timbo at I am Timbo I am I am T-I-M-B-O that one is where ⁓ I share a lot of ⁓ my interactions with God.
Pedro Espinoza (1:51:03)
And if you guys are thinking of reaching out to him, please no weird messages. He got some weird stuff from this account claiming to be the Illuminati and trying to recruit him. Just no weirdo stuff like that, guys.
TIm Reed (1:51:13)
Yeah.
Yeah, they wanted me, baby.
They wanted me, baby. I had to tell them no. That's funny. Yeah, I was laughing about that one.
Pedro Espinoza (1:51:20)
You
You're
on of light, not darkness.
TIm Reed (1:51:31)
Yeah,
that's right. That's right. That's so funny. I'm on the good side.
Pedro Espinoza (1:51:34)
You're on the good side.
Alright bro, it was great talking to you and ⁓ we will talk more soon.
TIm Reed (1:51:44)
All right, you got it brother. You take care. you, man.