Kind Of A Big Book Deal
"Kind of a Big Book Deal" is the go-to podcast for entrepreneurs eager to dive into the world of traditional publishing. Hosted by Meghan Stevenson, a seasoned editor with deep roots in the publishing industry, this podcast is perfect for anyone dreaming of topping the bestseller lists. Meghan shares her wealth of experience, including securing over $5 million in book deals for her clients from giants like Penguin and Harper Collins. Each episode is packed with insider tips on snagging a book deal, building a compelling author platform, and the realities of the publishing journey.
Meghan's approachable style and candid discussions make learning about the often-intimidating publishing process enjoyable and relatable. She brings on successful authors to share their stories, offers straightforward advice, and answers listener questions, all while keeping things light and engaging. "Kind of a Big Book Deal" isn't just informative—it's like sitting down with a good friend who knows the ins and outs of the publishing world.
The podcast airs new episodes every other Friday, providing fresh insights and ongoing support for both budding and seasoned entrepreneurs. Whether you're just starting out or you're looking to expand your reach in the literary world, Meghan's guidance and the vibrant community she fosters can help you navigate your way to publishing success with confidence and a few laughs along the way.
Kind Of A Big Book Deal
How My Clients Land Six-Figure Book Advances (And How You Can Too)
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A six-figure book deal sounds exciting, but the real story is more honest and more useful than a big number. In this episode of Kind of a Big Book Deal, Meghan Stevenson explains what entrepreneurs, experts, and creators need to understand about traditional publishing advances, literary agents, and the real value of a book deal.
Meghan breaks down why publishing is a reputation-based business, why many agents aim for deals of $100,000 or more, and why not every strong proposal lands a massive advance. She shares how market timing, editor interest, competition, and the economy can all affect what a publisher offers. She also explains her 3P Framework™: potential, platform, and proposal, and why those are the pieces authors can actually control.
Listeners will walk away with a clearer view of what book advances mean, why lower upfront money does not always mean a weaker book opportunity, and how traditional publishing can create long-term visibility, credibility, speaking opportunities, and business growth.
Meghan’s episode about money in publishing can be found at https://www.meghanstevenson.com/podcast/episode-14.
Episode Highlights:
(0:00) Intro
(1:24) Why six figures became the goal
(2:45) How literary agents make money
(3:13) Publishing as a business model
(5:03) Common book deal advance ranges
(6:53) The 3P framework for authors
(7:41) Why publishing mirrors real estate
(9:17) Best deal does not mean biggest deal
(10:17) Why lower advances still matter
(11:25) Books as business growth tools
(13:22) Outro
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Traditional publishing expert Meghan Stevenson blasts open the gates of the “Big 5”—Penguin Random House, Simon & Schuster, HarperCollins, Hachette, and Macmillan—to share what every entrepreneur and expert needs to know about landing a book deal.
In episodes released every Monday, Meghan shares wisdom and stories from 20+ years in publishing as well as interviews with authors, literary agents, and editors. She also answers questions from listeners like you.
Whether you are an experienced entrepreneur with an empire, or are just starting out—this podcast will help you understand what you need to do in order to turn your dream of being a bestselling author into real life.
Not Every Deal Hits Six Figures
MeghanYou may have heard me say that 80% of our proposals sell to major publishers, and I want to be honest here and say that not every single deal my clients have received has been in the six figures. Several in recent years have been way less, all the way down to $15,000. Sometimes that's about the overall market.
Welcome And Why Publishing Matters
MeghanWelcome to the kind of a big book deal podcast where entrepreneurs come to learn about traditional publishing. I'm your host, Meghan Stevenson. After working as an editor for two of the biggest traditional publishers, I started my own business helping entrepreneurs to become authors. To date, my clients have earned over $7 million from publishers including Penguin Random House, Simon and Schuster, Harper Collins, and Hay House, just to name a few. In these podcast episodes, I will blast open the well-kept gates to traditional publishing. I'm going to explain what every entrepreneur needs to know about landing a book deal without losing your mind. I'm going to share stories, answer your questions, interview the successful authors I've had the pleasure to work with, and probably say platform more than a tech bro. So if you dream of landing on a bestseller list but have no idea how, this is the podcast for you, and I am so, so glad you're here.
The 100K Rule And Reputation
MeghanI don't get out of bed for less than 100K. After a literary agent said that to me a few years ago, it became my new mantra. Not for me necessarily, but for the entrepreneurs, experts, and creators that I work with. Here's why. What you absolutely 100% need to know about traditional publishing is that it's a reputation-based business. I want and I need my authors to be at a certain level so that my business and therefore my professional reputation runs at that same level. Meaning that if I send out a bunch of mid or iffy projects, I'm going to be known for that. Versus what I actually do, which is be really picky. I want and I have to believe that the clients I choose to work with can get a book deal worth $100,000 or more because then I'm working with the literary agents, the editors, and the publishers who operate at that level. Most of the literary agents I know aren't going to get out of bed for less than 100K because their work is commission-based. On a 15% commission, which by the way is standard for the industry, that's only $15,000 for at least two years' worth of work, possibly more. And the lower that book advance goes, the less that literary agent is making. And author is making. So let's go to Tangent Town for a second and have a little moment with business models.
How Agents And Authors Make Money
MeghanMost entrepreneurs create offers that land in one of two camps, high price and low volume, or low price and high volume. Agents, editors, and publishers operate the same way. For the most part, prescriptive how-to nonfiction is high price, low volume because a self-help author might only have one or two books in their entire career compared to, let's say, a romance author who tends to write a book every year or two. Personally, I run a high-price, low-volume business model, and so do most of the literary agents I work with. So going back to our main narrative, the reason that I choose to work with clients who I feel can get at least six figures, if not more, is because that lands those clients with the right literary agencies who have those relationships with editors that can make a book successful. So
Typical Advance Ranges And Labels
Meghanyou might be wondering if $100,000 is our floor, it's sort of what I expect to get for clients when I sign them up. What's the ceiling? Well, currently the biggest deal we've ever gotten for a client is $2 million. But the range, right, I see most often is between $100,000 and $250,000. Out of more than 30 deals I've personally helped clients to land, roughly 40% have ended up in that $100K to $250K range. That actually tracks with data from Publishers Marketplace, where agents, authors, and editors announce book deals. Now, not all book deals are announced, but a fun thing to know about book deals is that Publishers Marketplace, which is also known as Pub Lunch for its daily email newsletters, labels deals based on money. So $100,000 to $250,000 is called a good deal, $250,000 to $500,000 is a significant deal, and $500,000 or more is a major deal. Now, I gotta admit, I've only had two major deals in my entire career that went for more than a half million dollars. So those are really outliers, right? In general, the number of deals stayed the same quarter by quarter, year after year. At the beginning of April 2026, which is when I recorded this episode, Publishers Marketplace had just released their data comparing the first quarter of 2026 with the last four years. And although there was some up and down year to year, the averages averaged out. So, just like my authors, you are more likely to get what's called a good deal, landing at $100,000 to $250,000 than you are to get a significant deal, which is $250,000 to $500,000, or certainly a major deal, which again is over half a million dollars.
The 3P Framework And Market Timing
MeghanHowever, in order to get a book deal at all, remember you've got to have my 3P framework, which is potential for your book to appeal to a specific segment of readers, most likely your audience, platform, your proven ability to reach an audience of book buyers and sell books when you promote them, and proposal, what you hire me and my team to do. When you have those three Ps, when you have that 3P framework and work with me and my team to secure a literary agent, how much you receive as an advance depends on a lot of factors. The books publishers have already acquired in process is a factor, the experience of individual editors as well as their personal interests and preferences is a factor, and the general state of the economy and the world is a factor as well. And that way, what advance you get can be a lot like the housing market. I don't know about you, but I personally watch a lot of househunters. When you have a house that's been sitting for sale, it's more likely that the buyer has negotiating power. Depending on the sellers, it's possible that someone could buy that house with a price below asking. Or let's say you put your house up for sale on a bad economy, like my husband had too in 2008 when he got a job offer in New York. He wasn't able to get as much money as he would have if the economy had been better at that time. Those same dynamics exist in publishing. In a lot of ways, many of the deals in 2020, 2021, even 2022 were a boom market. The house my husband and I ended up buying went for thousands over the asking price because we bought at a hot time in a hot market. We had to compete and put together our best offer in order to make the deal happen. Both of those things can happen in publishing. I recently worked on a book that was the equivalent of a super cute house at a reasonable price. That project ended up getting multiple offers and ended up going for a lot of money because there was competition. And what you need to know as an author is that your literary agent, it's their job to negotiate. And they're going to negotiate very similarly to a real estate agent. Your literate agent will try to get publishers who want your book to come up to what they personally feel the value is for your book. That value might not always match actual market price and could be higher, it could be lower. But regardless, a literary agent's job is to get you the best deal. That doesn't always mean the highest number. Sometimes our clients feel really connected to a particular editor or publisher and are willing to actually take less money to work with that team. Ultimately, the connection is what matters because the editor is the champion for your book inside the publishing house. But I can't pretend the money doesn't matter, and neither should you. You may have heard me say that 80% of our proposals sell to major publishers. And I want to be honest here and say that not every single deal my clients have received has been in the six figures. Several in recent years have been way less, all the way down to $15,000. Sometimes that's about the overall market. A couple of years ago, in early 2024, a few of our best projects sold for less money because everybody in publishing was spending less money. For whatever reason, that was the trend, and the authors that went out on submission to publishers in that season got lower advances. But as I explain in the episode on how money works in publishing, which is linked in the show notes in case you haven't heard it, that doesn't mean you will have an editor that's any less involved or a less successful book overall, financially or otherwise. A lower advance just means that you get less money up front. So ultimately, it's part of your literary agent's job to be strategic about when to send a proposal out, how to send it, who to send it to, if they're going to do a really wide submission to everybody that works on that kind of book, or if they're only going to send it to a few of their favorite people. Like me, a literary agent will make all sorts of choices based on their experience and what they honestly feel like is best for you. Unfortunately, there is no way to guarantee a book deal, much less one worth six figures or more. However, what is in your control completely is those three Ps in my 3P framework. Develop your potential, the potential for your book, the potential for you as an author. Establish and grow your author platform, which is code for your audience, right? And your reach and your ability to sell books. And then last, hire us to help you write a proposal, obviously. So I want to make one more point about the clients we work with and why our goal is six figures or more from a publisher. Most of our clients are entrepreneurs, experts, and creators. They have successful businesses and brands and busy, busy lives. Their books must be revenue generating in order for them to invest time and money. While it's obviously an investment and a risk to hire us up front to craft a saleable proposal with no guarantee of success, for most of our clients, the leverage they gain and the payoff they get is well worth the investment, even when they never earn a dime beyond their
Turning A Book Deal Into Revenue
Meghanadvance. Because what I want you to remember and I want you to know is that the real money in publishing a book doesn't come from the publisher. Instead, that money arrives in the form of more visibility and credibility as a traditionally published author. The way you publish still matters, okay? And when your book is being written, especially when you're getting help with writing the book through someone like me and my team, you can use the fact that you got a book deal as a marketing message. You can invest part or all of your advance in growing your audience and getting more clients. You can demand higher speaking fees and book more speaking engagements and keynotes, all while earning a return on an investment that got you there, hiring me and my team to help
Quiz And Subscribe Request
Meghanyou. Now, to get started, the very first step in landing your six-figure book deal is my free quiz, which I encourage you to take if you haven't already. Your answers on that quiz will let you know how to work with me and my team, as well as give you specific guidance for where you're at right now. And I want to give a little bit of an encouragement here, no matter where you're at on your journey. While there are a lot of things that are out of control for you as an author, what's entirely in your control is what you do next. As always, I hope this podcast has been helpful. And until next time, cheers to your success. Thanks for tuning in to the kind of a big book deal podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, I would love it if you subscribe and also leave a review. Not only is this good for my ego and annoying for my enemies, but it also helps more entrepreneurs like ourselves find this podcast. Also, I'm pretty sure it's good karma. See you next time.