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No Bridges, No Wrapped BTC: How Liquidium Is Giving Bitcoiners Liquidity

October 31, 2025 • Token For Your Thoughts • Season 1 • Episode 22

Guest: Robin Obermeyer, Co-founder & CEO at Liquidium

Duration: ~49 minutes

🎧 Episode Overview

Most Bitcoin holders don’t want to move their BTC off-chain or rely on “wrapped” tokens just to use DeFi.

Robin Obermeyer, Co-founder and CEO of Liquidium, joins host Lindsey McConaghy to talk about how Liquidium is making Bitcoin work natively across DeFi—no bridges, no wrapped assets, no middlemen.

Robin shares how his early fascination with finance led to building a lending protocol that started with Ordinals and now lets users borrow against real Bitcoin. He explains how Liquidium grew during the bear market, who actually uses BTC-backed loans, and why great user experience, not just code, will define the future of decentralized finance.

They also discuss the upcoming Liquidium.Fi launch, which will let anyone borrow stablecoins on Ethereum and Solana while keeping their Bitcoin safe on-chain.

🧠 What You’ll Learn

How Robin went from university student to founder building in the 2022 bear market
The story behind Liquidium’s first product: lending against Ordinals (NFTs on Bitcoin)
What makes Liquidium.Fi different, and why no wrapped BTC or bridges are needed
The two main borrower and lender types (and their surprising strategies)
Why simplicity and UX matter more than complex features in DeFi
Lessons on finding product–market fit by solving one real user’s problem
What’s next: cross-chain lending and making Bitcoin collateral work anywhere

🔊 Where to Listen

Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-bridges-no-wrapped-btc-how-liquidium-is-giving-bitcoiners/id1799063494?i=1000734492438
Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/episode/21ncxJOhnDehAi5ZzrEUX0?si=dc2e824f7e5a4d0e
YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toJh1mvGdMM

🌐 Connect with Robin & Liquidium

Website: https://liquidium.fi
X (Twitter): @robin_liquidium | @LiquidiumFi

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