CINEMISSES! The Fall Guy

In this episode, Tug and Matt delve into the 2024 movie The Fall Guy, starring Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt. They discuss how the film is love letter to Hollywood's unsung heroes – the stunt people. They fawn over Gosling's portrayal of a stuntman navigating personal and professional challenges as well as themes of love, regret, and blowing shit up. There's also discussion of the collaboration it takes to make a movie (to do anything creatively really), and we wrap up the third act with a note from Steven Spielberg. Cue the explosion ... NOW!

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Transcript

00:00 Introduction and Setup
01:42 Exploring the Fall Guy Movie
04:13 Director David Leitch and His Background
06:48 Cast and Characters
09:37 Ryan Gosling's Career Overview
12:23 Development of The Fall Guy Movie
14:48 Opening Scene and Narration
17:31 Colt Seavers and His Journey
20:15 Returning to the Film's Plot
21:32 The Reunion and Regrets
25:45 The Search for Tom Ryder
30:21 The Fight for Answers
34:50 Creative Collaboration and Connection
39:26 Uncovering the Truth
43:07 Confrontation with the Antagonist
43:56 Rising Stakes and Unraveling Truths
46:27 Heartfelt Confessions and Symbolic Rescues
53:11 Stunt Showdown and Final Confrontations
54:56 A New Beginning and Industry Reflections

Matt (00:00)
Hey, tug.

Tug McTighe (00:01)
Hey, Matt!

Matt (00:03)
How are you doing, buddy?

Tug McTighe (00:04)
I'm well, it's a little chilly here in my home studio, but you know, we persevere.

Matt (00:06)
It is.

It is now I was thinking it's funny you mentioned the weather because I am not a winter guy. I kind of a spring guy. I'm not sure you know as hot as it gets here in Casey that I'm a summer guy, but you know what I am.

Tug McTighe (00:23)
I have no idea.

Matt (00:24)
I'm a fall guy. speaking of which, movie that we're going to talk about today is the Fall Guy. And it's a 2024 movie, so more recent than some of the movies that we've done. They're not all like old school throwbacks. This is pretty recent. This was the

Tug McTighe (00:26)
you're a fall guy! I didn't see where that was going. And that apropos... Speaking of which...

Matt (00:48)
you know, or fourth quarter of last year. So I would ask you, what do you think you knew about this movie going in?

Tug McTighe (00:55)
So, okay, so one, this'll come out pretty early and repeatedly. I like Ryan Gosling. I think he's really funny. I dig his shtick. So I wanted to see this. But in the modern day movie business, if you don't see it the first weekend, and it's not some smash hit,

Matt (01:11)
Okay.

Tug McTighe (01:20)
It's gone. It feels like a week. It might be two weeks. It might be three. And then you have to wait 30 days or whatever for streaming to come. So I missed this. This was on my radar. I'd seen the trailer. I was all in, and then just didn't get around to seeing it.

Matt (01:24)
You can.

Yeah, I think you cannot

be blamed for missing this because to your point, you're like, I'll I'll see it next week. well, next week it was gone. And it was. Yeah.

Tug McTighe (01:42)
That's exactly right. So yeah,

was, we'll talk relatively, well, maybe not that successful. Maybe it's having a better run on streaming. But so what I thought I knew was it's maybe, I'm going to use air quotes here, based on the 80s TV show with Lee Majors, I'm like, is it a retelling of the Fall Guy, which I watched when I was a kid, you know?

Lee Majors, Heather Thomas. She was a big pinup model at that time because of this. You could go to Spencer's Gifts and get a poster of her in any mall in America for about five years. So I thought it might, right, he was a bounty hunter, think. A stunt guy, Lee Majors was a stunt guy who was a bounty hunter on the side. that's sort of every 80s TV show like that is we're this guy who's also a bounty hunter.

Matt (02:12)
to us.

Tug McTighe (02:31)
were that guy who were also private detectives. So I know that was a deal. I knew there was a very famous truck that Lee May just drove in that that I hoped I would see in this. I knew he was the stunt man, That was clear in the trailers. I knew he was in love with Emily Blunt, who was the director or the writer of the films or whatever. And I assumed he was trying to win her back.

Matt (02:43)
Right?

Tug McTighe (02:58)
probably from the guy that he was the stunt double for. That was my romantic comedy set up for this. And really that's it. I knew it was kind of at least tied to the Lee Major show. I knew Gosling and Emily Blunt. Also Aaron Taylor Johnson, I think is pretty funny. Really quite funny in this. But that's really it. I was like, as I say, I was in

Matt (03:08)
Okay.

Tug McTighe (03:22)
I'll watch him do a lot. Pretty much anything I'll Gosling do. So that's kind of why.

Matt (03:25)
Sure, I agree. had

seen him in Drive and enjoyed him quite a bit. Beyond that, I haven't really seen him in much at all. So I think you nailed a couple of the key points. One of the things I might quibble with that we'll find out is was it a rom-com or was it an action movie or was it a little bit of both? I'm not sure what the answer was.

Tug McTighe (03:32)
Yeah. Yeah.

Great question.

Great question.

Matt (03:48)
All

right, so the log line of this movie, it's a stunt man fresh off an almost career ending accident who has to track down a missing movie star, solve a conspiracy and try to win back the love of his life while doing his day job. That's the log line of this movie. it came out in 2024. It was directed by David Leitch, who a lot of people would say who's David Leitch. He was a stunt man.

He was a long time stunt man. He stunted for Brad Pitt and for Jean-Claude Van Damme. And if you look at his Wikipedia entry for just stunts he's done, it's like columns long. It's really long. So this guy.

Tug McTighe (04:25)
Right. He's a piece of

he's a big wheel in that world.

Matt (04:30)
And so what I took away from this is that not only is he a good stuntman and knows what stunting is and stunt performing and appreciates these people, but I think he has a lot of connections with people and is probably a pretty good guy because he has a lot of connections in Hollywood. People that like him and they're willing to do things for him, which we'll find out later. So.

Tug McTighe (04:49)
Yeah.

Well, and you figure, you figure,

and again, as always, our, our standard disclaimers, we don't know anything about anything, right? This is just two guys who like movies, talking about movies and with the aid of Wikipedia and the internet. but you figure if a, if a dude like David was a, I'm making up a number, 25 years in the biz keeps getting called, because right, becomes the lead guy.

start, you know, he's hanging around dudes like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Jean-Claude Van Damme. He's in the right room. And then you know, it ends up and it's sort of like in this movie, he's like, you're the best stunt man I've ever had. And you just keep working for the same people. And these are big stars. These are big movies, So he had enough connections, and obviously enough skill storytelling and directing wise to make that transition.

from stunt man and stunt quarter coordinator, which is clearly by the way the the behind the scenes in the movie of the stunts and the behind the scenes after in the credits of the sense will tell you the abject fucking complexity of what these guys are doing and It gave me a huge New respect for the kind of shit these dudes do so for him being an expert in that realm and then

Matt (06:10)
for sure.

Tug McTighe (06:13)
Hellman, this was a big budget movie. This is two big stars.

Matt (06:18)
It was, this was, yeah, so for sure this was a love letter to Stuntman, which was great. It's, Ryan Gosling plays kind of him, right? Working on his ex-girlfriend's directorial debut action film. And this is kind of his story. met his wife, I think his wife was a makeup artist, but it's kind of him telling his story, which is pretty cool.

and in the story he gets involved in a conspiracy involving the lead actor, which is Aaron Taylor Johnson, who was great and, Tom writer. this premiered at South Bay, Southwest in 2024 in March. it got generally positive reviews. It did not do great at the box office, but it gross 180 million one.

Tug McTighe (06:48)
Tom Rider!

Matt (07:02)
there are $181 million worldwide against a $150 million budget.

Tug McTighe (07:08)
Yeah, which seems like

a lot until you factor in the budget, right?

Matt (07:12)
For sure. But again, to your point, it on Amazon Prime in two weeks. So crazy. But you look at the tomato meter, it's at 82%. The popcorn meter with audiences was at 85%.

Tug McTighe (07:25)
That's

a good solid B if you're getting graded on your math test in grade school.

Matt (07:32)
I think so. Other people that were in this movie, Hannah Waddington, Hannah Waddingham, fresh off of Ted Lasso, who's great. Stephanie Hsu, who I think is great. She's showing up in things like Shang-Chi and everything, everywhere all at once. Everything I see her in, I think she's great. And Winston Duke, who was a lot of fun. He's in the Marvel Universe too as Baku. Yeah, for sure.

Tug McTighe (07:40)
Ted Lasso.

Yeah.

Yeah, he was M'Baku, yeah, from Black Panther.

Matt (07:59)
Okay. So at this point, Ryan Gosling has done a ton of things. I mean, and has been consistently busy. He was in the notebook in 04. He was in, I didn't see half Nelson in 06, but he was in Lars and the Real Girl, which was really interesting. I thought he took a lot of, did you see that one? Yeah. I think thought he took a lot of chances there. Crazy Stupid Love, which I didn't see, but you said we need to see it, right?

Tug McTighe (08:14)
Yep. Yep. I did.

We're gonna

cover that, that's a great, that's gonna be around Valentine's Day. I love that movie.

Matt (08:29)
And I saw a drive, which I thought was great. He was in the big short. He, he was in the nice guys in La La Land in 2016. And those were both pretty big and well received.

Tug McTighe (08:32)
Drive is awesome too.

Yeah, and I'll tell

you, the big short, Nice Guys in La La Land is, in my estimation, that's sort of when he locks in this slightly sarcastic, a lot of asides, a lot of not mugging to the camera, he mugs to the camera, the big short, but just this, he's got to comment, he's got to come back, that sort of Ryan Gosling persona, I think, is that he plays up really well in this.

Matt (09:02)
Right, and that's what I always thought of him, is kind of that smarmy guy.

Tug McTighe (09:07)
Yeah, are we doing

this? Is this what we're doing? You know, that kind of thing where he's like, you know,

Matt (09:10)
Right.

Yeah, so not to give too much away, but what I loved about him in this movie is that he was so genuine and relatable and humble. He seemed very humble. He did Blade Runner 2049. I wrote in 2022 he married Eva Mendes and I thought that was worth including. Right, but I would, I think that's as cool as any movie credit you could ever get.

Tug McTighe (09:18)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, they had long time relationship that they kept sort of on the DL.

Yeah, nice work, right?

Well done. Yeah, and I didn't love Barbie as much as everybody. I think it was the hype. It was just too much hype by the time I saw it. But I thought he was really good in it.

Matt (09:40)
And then Barbie in 2023 and that was a big deal.

Hi Evans.

Yeah. Okay. So a little background in 2010, it was reported that a movie based on The Fall Guy, the TV show was in development. And at that time they were talking about Dwayne Johnson, The Rock being in it and McPhee who I've enjoyed from.

Tug McTighe (10:07)
Right? Yeah, yeah, I

don't want, I'd much rather prefer David Leach to Mick G. didn't, because I don't think you would have gotten the stunt stuff right.

Matt (10:19)
No, you wouldn't at all. It would have been a completely different show. I really liked McGee on, I think he did Veronica Mars and I was a big fan of that, but not remotely the same kind of thing. So fast forward another 10 years and nothing's happened.

Tug McTighe (10:20)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, he did.

Right.

I mean, God, right?

Like, ten fucking years and then four more to get it done. Crazy, right?

Matt (10:37)
Sure, so

I think David Leach, Leach got a, let's say Leach, got a hold of this. They were gonna be working on a name stunt man film. They got picked up by Universal and then two years later was confirmed that this was gonna be as loose as loose can get based on the fall guides we do. Right, for sure. And it was gonna get done in Australia.

Tug McTighe (10:43)
Okay, leech.

cleverly titled.

Lucy Goosey based, yeah.

Matt (11:03)
So this was great for Australia because it was a boom to the economy. had, yeah, a thousand Australian cast and crew and more than 3000 Australian film extras. So Emily Blunt came on board, Aaron Taylor Johnson and Stephanie Shue came on board. And then Winston Duke, Hannah Watigan and Teresa Palmer were cast the same, the following month rather. And this was really based on

Tug McTighe (11:07)
Yeah, this is a big movie.

Matt (11:28)
Leach and his wife and how they met. So he had made a movie that was a couple of years ago that was kind of a parody of the stunt man world where it was a stunt man who became a dancer, a male. Chippendale, thank you, I couldn't remember. I watched a little bit of it and it was pretty terrible.

Tug McTighe (11:44)
Okay, like Chippendales? Okay.

Okay.

Matt (11:51)
The one thing I will say is that it was narrated by Holmes Osborne. Do you know who that is?

Tug McTighe (11:57)
I do have worked with Holmes Osborne. He's a Kansas City guy. Holmes, yeah, Holmes Osborne is a Kansas City guy. And he was dad, guy's dad in that thing you do to continue where that thing you do streak. And he was in that because he and Tom Hanks became friends when they were doing, know, in the eighties, they were doing some, you know, Shakespeare in the parks in the Midwest, you know, when they were trying to.

Matt (12:00)
Really?

Exactly.

Okay.

Tug McTighe (12:24)
Yeah, but Holmes Osborne, yeah, he's a great voice actor. That's right. I did some radio spots with him years ago.

Matt (12:28)
Yeah, he was great.

No kidding. That's amazing. So again, David Leach, you can tell he has connections with people and they're willing to do these things. So wrapping that up, he co-directed the first John Wick movie.

Tug McTighe (12:31)
No

Please connect it, absolutely.

Matt (12:44)
and produce the next three. So.

Tug McTighe (12:44)
Okay. So right. So he's,

he's really, cause those are insanely popular and pretty good by the way, those Sean Wick movies. and now knowing that now I'm like, I can see now I got it. Cause all the action, all the fighting, all the stunts, all the stuff. that's him. No one is, no one is craft.

Matt (12:54)
for sure.

Right on, he directed Deadpool 2 and Bullet Train. Did you ever see Bullet Train?

Tug McTighe (13:08)
I didn't see bullet train.

Matt (13:09)
You should see it, fun, but it's Brad Pitt and a cast of stars and very action theme. having seen this, like this guy gets action movies.

Tug McTighe (13:18)
Yep.

Matt (13:20)
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Matt (14:03)
That's amazing. You're so good at these. All right. So let's dive into the story. It opens with narration over various stunts. So we have kind of an internal monologue. How did you feel about that?

Tug McTighe (14:06)
All right, we're back. Here we go.

I liked it. think it was, I went, gosh, I went years ago to Robert McKee's story seminar when I thought I was wanting to quit advertising, become a screenwriter. It's a really famous seminar. Look it up, Robert McKee. he talked about narration and we talked about this, not even knowing anything about anything. If it tells the story, it shouldn't be there.

because it's just providing too much information that you're supposed to try to figure out yourself or the movie is supposed to show you as we talk about. But if it's point, he called it, McKee called it point and counterpoint. If it's giving you information about what you're seeing and adding to it, then it can work. And I think it works here. think it's interesting about who he is, Colt Seavers, right? Colt is a good dude.

an honest, empathetic, like you said, nice guy. And you start to learn about him through that over the top of some of the stunts and stuff. And you start to learn who he is.

Matt (15:24)
Agreed. And I feel like that kind of puts us in his head. Like he's having a conversation with you and me, the viewer,

Tug McTighe (15:31)
That's right. And it is not, am

going to be all over this during my feedback. It starts with, I was made for loving you by kiss, which is a fucking chef's no pun intended kiss right out of the gate. you know, there's going to be a love story. You were in for a love story. I was, and then that is one of probably eight to 10 awesome fucking needle drops throughout this.

Matt (15:42)
Right?

Tug McTighe (15:58)
that we'll get to as we go.

Matt (15:59)
Right.

But I love that I was made for loving you, which admittedly was before this was not my favorite kiss song, but now I'm like, maybe I like it. No, and they threaded this throughout, right? Which.

Tug McTighe (16:07)
That's right. It's not such a bad number.

Yeah, there's several

versions of it. It keeps coming back.

Matt (16:18)
so I appreciate, we've talked about this in movies before where it's not accidental. Like they've really given thought to, how these things are going to, you you play now and how you're going to feel. And then they're going to bring it back later as a ballad or they're going to slow it down or they're going to do a love theme from this based on this music. just love it. so, in this intro, we get a kind of a monologue.

Tug McTighe (16:23)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Me too.

Matt (16:46)
We meet Colt Seavers, who's Ryan Gosling. He tells us he's got a sweet gig working as the stunt double for Tom Ryder. And he tells us, of course, you know who Tom Ryder is. He's the world's biggest action star. And he's got a big crush on Jodie Marino, who's a camera operator, but she wants to direct. so we get a little taste of how they're just nice people and they've got a cute relationship.

Tug McTighe (16:58)
Right.

They're on the set,

they're chatting on the walkies. He comes in, Tom Ryder wants another one, another stunt that he thought he was done. That's when you meet Hannah Waddingham.

Matt (17:21)
And you know that yeah,

and you know that Tom's kind of a dick. They're like, he wants he's this guy and he's

Tug McTighe (17:24)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're, yeah,

you're seeing my, we don't want to see your face so much, right? The stunt man, we don't want to see your face. That's a joke they keep coming back to, but you.

Matt (17:32)
Yeah.

But

but but also Colt doesn't care. He's like he's fine. He's like this is the game. This is what it is. So then he this.

Tug McTighe (17:40)
No, he's like, that's the gig. That's the gig, right? Yeah. But you then, right, so,

right, he does the stunt and then you realize this is, and this is why I think the narration works, the voiceover. You learn he's telling you a story that already, what you're seeing happened before. you didn't know that, now you know it, which again, to me as a writer,

Matt (17:59)
Yeah, it's in Flash.

Tug McTighe (18:06)
Okay, that's the point. So it's not just stuck on to give you some information we fucking didn't film or didn't make any sense. It's a technique we're using. So that makes me go, yeah, thumbs up.

Matt (18:15)
Sure.

Yeah. So the stunt goes wrong. And the next thing we know, we fade to black, we see Colt on a gurney, there are screams, and then Colt's on a gurney heading to the hospital.

Tug McTighe (18:27)
Right, and this was, I gotta tell ya, I didn't know there was an injury. As I said before, that wasn't on my list of the four and a half things I thought I knew about this. So that was a little shocking that that was the inciting incident was him having a really bad injury, like breaking his vacuoleur later. But I will say, this is, I don't know, you tell me, maybe 10 minutes have gone by, maybe not even of the film. And I'm loving him just being

Matt (18:36)
Right.

not even that, yeah. Eight minutes, something like six.

Tug McTighe (18:52)
himself I have this theory from a long time ago that I talked about with my friend John January who you know where he's an he's a movie star Ryan Gosling is so I don't want him to be an actor Meryl Streep is an actor she puts on these different personas and these different characters No, I want a version of Ryan Gosling every time I see him. I want some some shade of this

But I'm tickled, I'm just grinning the whole time I'm watching this.

Matt (19:22)
Yeah, he's great.

We're going to skip ahead then. It's 18 months. So we get the typewriter 18 months later.

Tug McTighe (19:30)
Yeah,

yeah, sorry, that's great, great. They do a lot of like, it looks like a script. It's in Courier, it's in Courier it comes in. And I do want to, before we move on, somewhere in here, they show him getting into his truck. And it was the fucking truck that I wanted to see. was the modern version of the, I looked it up, the 1982 GMC K2500 Sierra Grande that Lee Majors drove. So it's the modern version of that, which I thought was a,

Matt (19:36)
Yeah, which is cool. Yeah.

Yes.

Tug McTighe (19:59)
a nice bit of fan service, but then they don't bring it up. So, I agree 100%.

Matt (20:02)
I thought they brought in just enough fan service to relate

back to it. I'll say this before we get too far ahead. I thought this movie was way better than the TV show ever was. It's not even close. All right. So Skiphead, 18 months, he's now a valet for a Mexican restaurant and he's parking cars and he's got some kind of device that he puts on his back to stimulate his.

Tug McTighe (20:15)
Yeah, 100%.

Yeah, he's,

and you see him getting into his inversion table. He's been recovering from this terrible injury for a long time.

Matt (20:40)
he gets a call from his longtime friend and movie producer, Gail, who's Hannah Waddington. And she wants him to join the production of a new sprawling space opera called Metal Storm that's being filmed in Sydney. And I found out later, this is based on a 1983 movie featuring Kelly Preston, married to or formerly married to John Travolta.

Tug McTighe (21:02)
Yes.

Matt (21:02)
and

Richard Mole, Bull Shannon from Night Court, with the exact same title. There was a movie called Metal Storm, and their tagline was, it's high noon at the end of the universe. Which is exactly what this was. So he doesn't want to do it, and he says, forget it, I have no interest in this. I was amused by, how did you get my number? But she says, by the way,

Tug McTighe (21:06)
from Night Court.

Okay.

Which is called back several times in this. Yeah.

Right, he is out. He dropped out. Right. Right.

Matt (21:32)
the director asked for you and he says, I don't care. And she says, well, it's Jody. And he says, what did he say?

Tug McTighe (21:37)
It's Jody.

I don't remember.

Matt (21:42)
your get me an aisle seat like without hesitation. She says it's Jody says get me an aisle seat. Do we pick up a lot there? He obviously hasn't talked to her in 18 months. So.

Tug McTighe (21:44)
yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

He says, get me an ILC. That's right.

No,

all this business he does in the apartment when he's talking to Gail, he gets off the inversion table, gets on the, you know, he's eating wheat, drinking wheatgrass. He's like, no, I am out. I am, that was terrifying. I don't think I can do it again. And you learn a lot about him. And again, you can tell he really liked Jody, even in just this little bit of business.

Matt (22:16)
Right,

right, which is great. That's that show, Don't Tell. And in that little space, you get a lot, right? That he's got regrets, that he has feelings still. So he arrives on set, he connects with Dan, who's in Baku,

Tug McTighe (22:32)
Yep. that Dan

stunt buddy who's now the stunt coordinator. So he's the stunt boss.

Matt (22:36)
Yeah, Winston Duke.

he's congratulations to him. So a lot's happened in 18 months, like things people have gone on with their lives. And they do. He says you're going to do a roll like in the minute he got there, you're going to you're going to roll the car.

Tug McTighe (22:50)
He's like, I haven't even slept, I just got off a plane, a 17 hour flight.

Matt (22:53)
And he's trying to get coffee. was funny too. Did you catch that? Where he's just constantly trying to get a cup of coffee. But he says, okay, we'll do it. I think the sand's slippery. This is bad. We shouldn't do this.

Tug McTighe (22:55)
Right. Yeah, he just wants coffee. Right, right, right.

He, yeah,

we should let the tide come in and out. We can't. And, you know, they keep saying, hey, Jody, you got it. If this fucks up Jody's career is over. So he's got a little bit of like guilt. He says to Gail, like she tried to be there for me during my injury, but I just, had to drop. He really shut everybody out. And that hurt Jody, which you're going to learn here in a moment because

Matt (23:17)
for sure.

Tug McTighe (23:29)
After he does the roll in the car, 8.5 rolls, which they said is a world record, which turns out it is in fact a car roll world record. But he's on fire and he keeps getting yanked into this rock by a harness. And she's like, let's go again. And they light them on fire and they yank them back. Let's go again. And she's on a bullhorn and she's like telling, she goes, you haven't even read the script. Do know what this movie is about?

Matt (23:39)
That's right.

Tug McTighe (23:57)
And it turns out a bunch of the movie is about his relationship with her, them being broken up. And then she's telling him the story of the movie, but it's clearly an allegory for him blowing her off and dropping out. And then she goes, hey, we should see if he has anything to say. Get him a bullhorn so that he's like a hundred feet away from her. And he's like, is this necessary? we going to really do this? So I thought that part was fun.

Matt (24:22)
I like to, yeah.

He says, do the people on this planet have private conversations? She says, no, they do everything in public. So he's trying to explain kind of how he felt and like why things went the way they went. So.

Tug McTighe (24:28)
Right, right. No, they don't. No, they don't.

But it's all

like, it's clear they're talking about them, but they're not talking about them, which I thought was again, a nice piece of writing, which again, unexpected, I think, as we're talking about it now, in a big action flick, you don't expect depth like this, which I, again, I find nice.

Matt (24:51)
Yeah, I thought they cared.

Well, that's what I like so nice about this movie is that it wasn't formulaic for me and that people weren't playing roles that you expect them to play or that they're stereotyped to play. He's not being like a tough guy. He's actually kind of kind of sad and trying to figure out he is a sensitive guy. So yeah, that was a cool story. But basically she said she doesn't want him on the set. Get somebody else and they're like, there's nobody else. Yeah.

Tug McTighe (25:10)
He is sensitive and yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he learns, Gail lied.

Gail lied. She didn't want him there, Jodie. But now he's there, and we've got to figure out what's going on, how he's going to get home or stay.

Matt (25:27)
Right. Sure.

Right. All right. So, Colt has a conversation with Gail and she reveals that Tom Ryder, who's Aaron Taylor Johnson, disappeared. He's missing. He was involved in some bad people. Right. So she needs Colt to go find him. Exactly.

Tug McTighe (25:45)
He's falling in with some bad people. Right.

So that was her subterfuge for getting in there. You're his friend, you've been working

with him. He's like, he's not my friend. He's a dick. But I love working with him, but he's a dick.

Matt (25:59)
Right,

right. But and he would say, you know, go to hell, except that she says, know, if you don't find Tom, then Jodie's in the in the toilet and she's this is going to be a failure. So of course, he's going to do that. So he goes to Tom's apartment. He has a run in with Tom's girlfriend, who is the the lead actress from the movie. So they have kind of a fight and she's got a sword.

Tug McTighe (26:08)
this movie's gonna go to the shitter and she, yeah.

Matt (26:25)
And it turns out it's a props, it's a prop sword. She's like, I'm a good actress. Of course it's a fake.

Tug McTighe (26:27)
They're all these props, right?

But again, this is where

I, this is where I, it was a little meta which I loved, where you're watching the movie about stunt people and there's all these great stunts. This is a great fight, it's beautifully shot, it's all over the apartment, right? He's throwing a blanket on her, he's catching the sword and stuff. And you just know there's a bunch of cool stunt people working on this, doing this cool thing.

Matt (26:51)
Right.

For sure, he finds a gun that he opens the clip and it's all blanks and he realizes it's blanks. He's wearing, he's got his Miami Vice jacket. That was great. So he has a Miami Vice jacket because he was on the Miami Vice, what would you call it? Like a show?

Tug McTighe (26:59)
Blanks only,

That's right.

Yeah, like a Miami Vice stunt show at Universal Studios or something.

Matt (27:17)
stunt show

Yeah, so he explains that he did this but he gets thrown through the glass I thought this is really funny he gets thrown through the glass and he's having a conversation with her and he's got this Miami Vice hoodie and he's shaking it up and just glass just keeps coming out like Every time he thinks that all the glasses out there's more glass coming out so you had to see it it was pretty funny

Tug McTighe (27:30)
He's shaking off the, yeah.

And it's like, yeah, it's like a 30 second bit of just clashes pouring out.

Matt (27:45)
Anyway, she tells him, I forget her, Iggy, I guess her name's Iggy. She says, go to this nightclub where Tom buys his drugs and find this guy, Dune. And Dune is gonna, you know, he'll tell you where Tom is. So he does that, but she says, you can't do that looking like an idiot or like a regular person. I forget what she called it. You have to dress like Tom, so he dresses like an idiot, like this.

Tug McTighe (27:49)
Gigi. Yeah.

Right.

Right.

he gets this fucking

Matt (28:12)
This neon suit.

Tug McTighe (28:12)
neon suit on that's nuts

Matt (28:15)
So he goes to the club. He meets this guy. He offers him a drink and he says no. He says all the Shirley Temple so he gives him the Shirley Temple, but it's laced with drugs. OK. So what did you think about that fight scene

Tug McTighe (28:26)
laced with drugs, right? So he's high as a kite here in a minute.

yeah, it was really cool. It reminded me a little

So I love this fight scene. It reminded me a little bit of what Scott Pilgrim did, where they remember they would superimpose video game kind of stuff. But this was like he was high on LSD or whatever they'd given him. And you could see the animation was kind of, it was like you were seeing what Colt was seeing. then, yeah, explosions and he hits the guy and he gets a bottle. And again, he's a stuntman, so he knows how to fight and do all this stuff.

Matt (28:55)
Yeah, it's very hallucinogenic.

Tug McTighe (29:04)
And then you see a unicorn hanging around in the background. And then he chases Dune out the thing. He does more stunts. Dune gets in a cab. He jumps off a building like parkour. He jumps in front. goes, fuck. He puts his mouth.

Matt (29:18)
Boy,

that was, hold on, the mouth guard, yes. So there's a scene where he's talking to himself. He's like, don't do this, man. He's like, don't tell me what to do. And he's like, you're gonna have to stop this car. he's like, he's it's my job business. He's having a conversation with himself. But he walks into the street and the cab is coming with this guy and.

Tug McTighe (29:21)
Yeah, he puts his

I don't want to. Yeah. I don't want to.

it yeah he puts his mouth guard

in these tooth guard and he takes the kit like the stunt and then yeah it comes back later yeah he has it he has it with him

Matt (29:42)
Right, I love the mouth guard like you know so it's coming. Yeah. Right,

he keeps it with the mom times so he puts his green mouth guard in jumps on under the hood of the car. The car stops and then he drags do now and then.

Tug McTighe (29:57)
He drags out and he says, what

the fuck? Where is he? Dune says, hey, you got to go to his hotel and ask for Kevin at the front desk and ask for the fruit plate and he'll give you a key to, to Tom's room. And then he goes, and he still has a mouth guard in. it's hard for him. It's hard to understand him. He goes, what's wrong with your mouth? And he takes it out and he goes, Hey man, how long is this fucking trip I'm on going to last? And he goes, it could, it could last a while when you stop seeing unicorns.

Matt (30:15)
Right.

No, fuck is this gonna last?

Tug McTighe (30:26)
It'll be over and you look and there's a unicorn there, which the unicorn follows him for like the next 10 minutes, which I thought was really funny bit as well.

Matt (30:33)
That was kind of fun. That was fun. Yeah, so he goes to hotel and he gets to get the fruit plate and Kevin or whoever it is and the woman at the front desk says, I don't know what you're talking about. And Kevin's on break and I can get you fruit plate if you want. But then he runs into Gail and Jody.

Tug McTighe (30:48)
Right.

Gail and Joe because

this is their hotel as well.

Matt (30:54)
Right. So they kind of part ways and he heads up to the hotel and tries to hotel room tries to get in and eventually breaks in. But then he has a call. So they kind of gloss over this.

Tug McTighe (31:06)
Jodi calls it, he has just seen her a little bit ago, she calls it,

cause he said, she's like, fuck, I'm trying to work on this third act. Um, what's wrong? I don't know what to do. He goes, well, why don't you give me a call sometime and we'll chop it up and try to figure it out. And it's really important. I haven't say to this back to Winston Duke and Baku, his friend, they are movie people. They are quoting movies to each other this whole time. And then he's like, Oh, that's an easy one.

Matt (31:33)
for sure.

Tug McTighe (31:34)
That's pulp fiction. So this is not only a stunt man, but this is a guy who has been around a bunch of movies and knows what's good and knows what's bad and knows when it's falling apart in the third act and has ideas on how to fix it. So she says, she calls him and he's looking, he's trying to find, he's broken into this thing. So he's in a huge hurry. He's looking around for clues and he goes, well, let's just do it right now. And he sits down and they start talking.

Matt (31:43)
Right. Yeah.

That's a great point because you're right. He's not just a dumb stunt man that that's all he does. Like he, you're right. He loves movies. He can talk through how to solve the issue with the third act, how to make this all make sense. So that was really great. So they have this conversation and she says, you know, what do you think about a split screen?

Tug McTighe (32:13)
Right, right.

Matt (32:23)
And then the movie goes to split screen. So he's on one side and she's on the other. And they're, they have this, have this conversation and they.

Tug McTighe (32:25)
Right.

mirroring. She puts

her feet up, he puts his feet up, right?

Matt (32:35)
Right, I thought that was really neat.

Tug McTighe (32:37)
I too. And I love the part that

she's in her prop room and she just puts on one of the rubber alien hands, like an arm that's the alien. And she just has it on the whole time and she's gesturing with it and stuff, which I thought was funny.

Matt (32:50)
Yeah,

I didn't have much experience at all with Emily Blunt before this. think I saw her in a movie with Tom Cruise that I liked, but I hadn't thought much about her. I really thought she was adorable in this movie. Yeah, I a So that was pretty cool. So they did that, hang up the phone, and the next thing you know,

Tug McTighe (33:04)
Yeah, she's really good.

Matt (33:11)
find it goes into the bathroom and finds a body in ice in.

Tug McTighe (33:15)
Yeah, dead body in the

bathtub, literally filled up with ice.

Matt (33:19)
Right, so that's not good. That actually is, so the character is Henry, played by Justin Eaton, who is actually Ryan Gosling's stunt double, and did some stunt stuff for Aaron Taylor Johnson too. Yeah, exactly, so they're like, hey, let's include this guy.

Tug McTighe (33:27)
which is a nice, did some work on this, sure.

So yeah, so

the scene when they're doing the switch screen is another one of these scenes where they're talking about the movie, but they're talking about their relationship. And he's like, you think, Aliana, right, it's space cowboy and Aliana are the lovers in the movie. Do you think Aliana will ever give space cowboy another chance? And she's like, I don't see it. Too much hurt, too much history. And he's like, but what?

Matt (33:57)
He's like, I don't know,

maybe she would.

Tug McTighe (34:00)
But

wouldn't the audience love that if she said, understand what you were going through. And she's got that. And so there's just a lot of that double entendre that I thought was really nice.

Matt (34:12)
Agreed. As the production of the movie Metal Storm continues, then we get into a montage. Colt and Jodie are connect connecting.

Tug McTighe (34:20)
starting to talk and be right

there. They're obviously good together, right? She brings out the best in him. He brings out the best in her. And again, Needle Drop is I believe in a thing called love by the darkness, which is just fucking perfect. So great. Man, it's so good. Right. That's a great record. And and then this is one of the real big pieces where you see

Matt (34:31)
Darkness. Right? They deserve that. They probably needed the money too. I don't know if anybody remembers darkness, but maybe they had like two hits in about 2022.

Tug McTighe (34:50)
them doing the stunts. They're showing how they do all this work. you're like, man, that looks really hard and dangerous. And I like that part.

Matt (34:57)
You know, was really neat though.

What was really cool though, they, you, and obviously there's, that musical, you know, that I believe in a thing called Love's Plane, but you see gestures and things, so there's no dialogue, but you see them talking about what if we did it this way? And, what if we ran it back? how about this? You and I have done that together a million times. Like that is the creative process. That's like, yes. And that's like, hey, how about,

Tug McTighe (35:14)
That's exactly right.

That's right. That's right. It's that collaborative partnership that doesn't exist with everybody.

Yeah.

Matt (35:26)
Exactly.

And I appreciate not every job and not every industry has that, but creative people, people in a creative industry know what that's like to have that kind of inspiration when you're bouncing stuff off people. Yeah, where it's awesome. We were like, man, this would be so much better. Wait, what if we did this instead of this? I love that. So that was fun to watch. That was really cool. So then

Tug McTighe (35:39)
Yeah, that sort of flow state.

That's right.

Matt (35:52)
Gale, everything's fantastic, right? Everything's great. They're gonna go do karaoke.

Tug McTighe (35:58)
Right. yeah, she invites him. Hey, we're going

to do karaoke. I want you to come. Right.

Matt (36:02)
Yeah, everything's

good. They're back on track. It's going to be perfect. And then Gail says he has to, Colton needs to go back to the United States.

Tug McTighe (36:10)
I've got a plane ticket. She doesn't

want you here. You got to go back. This Tom stuff is deep. yeah, I'm sorry I even got you involved in this.

Matt (36:13)
Right, I'm sorry I got you involved in all this, this was a bad idea.

You should just leave. All right. So he doesn't pay attention to that. He's instead of instead is looking for Tom and tracks down his personal assistant Alma, who's played by Stephanie Shue, who I am liking her more and more and think she's in. And she has Tom's phone. Which Gail had been looking for. by the way, where's Tom? Have you seen Tom's phone? We need to find that.

Tug McTighe (36:41)
Gail said try to find his phone, right? Right.

Matt (36:45)
And then there's a big scene where they're attacked by Dressler, who is the minion, the henchman. Right, and he's also looking for the... and that's where we meet the dog.

Tug McTighe (36:51)
Right, Tom's henchmen and his team. Correct. And then that's where we meet Jean-Claude, right? So Stephanie,

Sue, Alma has Tom's dogs and he goes, yeah, I know him. I worked with him on Top Dog Bad Cop, Bad Dog Bad Cop or whatever it was. And he's like, is that, that's Jean-Claude. He only knows that, he only knows, and he starts speaking French to the dog because the dog only knows French.

Matt (37:10)
Right.

Right, I thought this was great because I know high school French, so I was like, wait, that's French, very good. So he's talking to the dog and she reveals that the dog will attack you with a certain phrase. And he's like, yes, we don't, don't say it, I know that one.

Tug McTighe (37:21)
very good. Yeah.

And he goes, don't say it, I know what it is. Yeah,

we taught him to attack people's balls.

Matt (37:37)
Right, and apparently Eva Mendez had a dog or has a dog that also speaks French and that was kind of the inspiration for this character. Cool.

Tug McTighe (37:40)
Right.

Right, very good. So I love

this, him interacting with the dog, talking to it like it's a human in French. He buckles them up. So then this is a great scene, extended car chase. Everybody's after him. He's got the phone. He's on his truck. The bad guys have kidnapped Alma. They're trying to beat it out of her. She's fighting them off. He has the dog in the truck.

Inners cut this to karaoke where he has not shown up for karaoke. And Emily Blunt goes and sings Fucking Against All Odds by Phil Collins, which is another chef kiss. And so that's playing over this car chase dumpster fight that goes on and on and on. And then she's singing it. And they show her from the right profile.

Matt (38:14)
Right.

That was such a good song.

Tug McTighe (38:34)
and you see the window and you see him fight getting just punched by the guy as it goes by the karaoke bar. Yeah, so it's just a lot of fun, right? And it turns out the threat, it turns out the the command is a take a attack a and because the dog then jumps out of through the windshield and and bites the guy bites Kessler in the balls. Right?

Matt (38:38)
In the big window that goes by in the street. That was great. That was a great song,

The texture testicles, yes.

Yeah, so that was, he got a, yeah, multiple opportunities to do that, the dog did. So yes, that was a pretty cool fight scene. And again, another cool stunt, right? They're spinning around on this, don't know, they're fighting. It was great.

Tug McTighe (39:09)
Yeah, exactly. yeah, dude, I can't even

understand the production. So then this gets to the point where he beats the bad guys off. He has the phone. He goes back to the karaoke bar. Winston Duke is still there. Is that Dan? And he says, got to f- something's going on, man. Some bad shit. guys are after me. And he goes, will you come back with me and help me find?

Matt (39:26)
Dan.

And then he's like, where's Jodie? He's like, she left hours ago. Right.

Tug McTighe (39:37)
the code that unlocks the phone, right, the pen. And you learned earlier that Tom Rider writes everything down on sticky notes. His whole apartment is covered in sticky notes. So he's like, just come, yeah, come help. He's like, come help me find this sticky note with the code on it.

Matt (39:48)
They did make that, they did mention that earlier, like, cause he's still doing the sticky note thing. Yeah.

Tug McTighe (39:54)
He gets Dan to go back with him to Tom's apartment. Because they think that Tom has, because he writes everything down on these sticky notes all over his house and his car and his life. That's probably where the code is.

Matt (40:08)
Yeah, they need to unlock that phone. So they head back to his apartment, correct.

Tug McTighe (40:10)
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All right, so they go back to Tom's apartment. he's so happy. He picks up his Miami Vice jacket again. Tom finds the sticky note with the code. They unlock the code. there's a great point coming up. I can't wait to make it. They unlock the phone. They're looking around on these videos. They uncover a video of Tom at a party.

Matt (40:56)
Right, and this is where he finds his, he had left his Miami vice jacket, is so great.

Tug McTighe (41:19)
with Henry the stuntman who was in the ice.

they're fighting play fighting. And then Tom's like, or yeah, Ryder's like, I do my own stunts and he does a kick and kicks Henry in the chest. And Henry goes back and hits his head or whatever. And they're like, is he okay? And then turns out he's not okay. It turns out he's dead. And Tom Ryder was the one who killed him. So he's like, give me the phone. Cause they're, cause they're filming everything. Right? So then they realized this and this is the, this is the part I just remembered happened. They're sitting there like, Holy shit, we got to get this to the police.

because yeah, we got to get this police. then Dan says, you know what? If this were a movie, the bad guys would be closing in right about now. And we cut outside and they're fucking closing in. So again, really nice. These guys know movies. They know story. They know movies. They know how this is to work.

Matt (42:04)
And as exactly that was pretty great.

Right, that was great. So yeah, that was the point where they realized that Tom has inadvertently murdered his stuntman. And that's the reason for all of this. So then we have, we've got, exactly. So we've got to fight. We've got the bad guys coming in.

Tug McTighe (42:21)
Right?

That's right.

That's why everybody wants that phone.

Another big fight where they're fighting

with fake props, the rubber hatchet and the gun with the blanks. Right.

Matt (42:39)
rubber hats and the gun with blanks.

they're the bad guys have actual weapons, but they have just fake ones. So they go through that. Dan eventually escapes, but Colt's captured. He's brought face to face with surprise, surprise. It's Tom Ryder who knew about this all along. He's been hiding out on his yacht. So he has no problem explaining everything that's happening. He says, Gail.

Tug McTighe (42:56)
That's right.

Yeah, a little bit like a bad guy in

a Bond movie.

Matt (43:06)
Yeah, he's exactly like that. He's like, well, here's what's going on.

Tug McTighe (43:07)
And isn't that what he says? He says you're like

a bad guy in a Bond movie right now.

Matt (43:13)
He says Gail's gonna frame Colt using like deep fake, which.

Tug McTighe (43:17)
Yeah,

because when he got to Sydney, they did that 360 camera on his face, on Colt's face and said, he said, what are doing? He goes, we do this all the time now. We just map your face onto his, we map his face onto your body for the stunts.

Matt (43:30)
Sure.

Yeah. So Tom Ryder, like, admits everything. He's the one that caused, and that he's the one that caused Colt's accident in the first place, because he thought Colt was... Yeah. So the whole reason that Colt fell and broke his back.

Tug McTighe (43:35)
Yes, yes.

Yeah, you learned that. That's right. Yeah, he thought Colt was taking too much of

the spotlight. So he's the one that fucked with the harness. Yeah, he's an a-hole.

Matt (43:52)
Yeah, he's a jerk.

So, Henry's body.

Tug McTighe (43:56)
And this is really,

the action is like the stakes are raising and raising and raising, which I think is great.

Matt (44:02)
For sure.

Yeah. So Henry's body had been discovered and they doctored video with Colt's face on Tom's body. Sure. And they released that to the news media and Gail tried to explain that Colt was the guy that did all this and she couldn't believe it. But it turns out Gail was the one that just set this all up.

Tug McTighe (44:08)
Yeah. Now he's the number one suspect.

Gail was the bit, yeah,

because Gail was trying to protect Tom. Tom's career, which as his producer, is in fact her career also. So right, she's willing to do anything to save that guy's reputation.

Matt (44:38)
Right,

so Tom's trying to escape. He can't do it. They capture him. He's on this boat. They're dousing him in gasoline. They explain everything because he's going to die, right? So they can tell him everything and they pour gasoline on him and he's yelling for help. So he gets it in his mouth and the bad guy.

Tug McTighe (44:55)
And

he does yet another stunt. Right?

Matt (44:59)
this is great. So the bad guy is

like, like here, here it goes. And he's going to like light him on fire and he lights the Zippo and then yes, exactly. And then, Colt blows gas on him. That guy catches on fire. Colt runs and jumps onto another boat. And because he had done the Miami vice stunt show, he knows how to drive the boat backwards. So he does that in the states.

Tug McTighe (45:22)
Right, well he's, yeah. That callback made me

so happy. Yeah.

Matt (45:28)
Yeah, that was awesome. But he

had the jacket. He'd talked about the stunt show that he'd done many times. So this wasn't a surprise, but it was a

Tug McTighe (45:34)
That's right. No,

no, it was a nice payoff. And then he escapes them and he's hiding in this. They're chasing him. The chase is slowed. He's kind of hiding between boats and he gets his phone out and calls. He gets his hands free. He calls Jody. She's in the editing suite and he talks to her and he bears his soul. And he said earlier, it got so long.

you know, 18 months went by and then I'd thought about what I wanted to say for so long that everything then I thought I would say sounded like it sucked. And then I didn't know what to say. And as he tells Jody, he says, Hey man, you know that you think that the thumbs up we do is dumb. He goes, but that's just the whole thing about being a stuntman. You never say it hurts. You never say you're hurting. You never say it's too much. You never say you're scared. You just give everybody thumbs up. And he goes, you know, like being a stuntman is really hard and really hurts.

But I've learned it hurts, but not as much as not being with you. So he professes her love to her finally. And then he goes, hey, was that it? Did I steal that from a movie, or did I just make that up? Because it was pretty good. And there's that little nod back to the movies again.

Matt (46:38)
He says that way. Right. We get

a, I was made for loving you baby slow version.

Tug McTighe (46:43)
slow. That's right. The ballad, the

power ballad version.

Matt (46:47)
That was pretty awesome. this is when we first find out that Tom Ryder tends to forget that he has a mic on. So he'll say things, forgetting that he's mic'd up. Right, okay. So there's a huge explosion. The boat flies into another gas thing and it...

Tug McTighe (46:56)
He's my tough because he's the actor.

like a gasoline.

Matt (47:07)
blows up and the bad guys are like, good, he's dead. And they call Hannah Waddington, Gail, and they say, yeah, that guy's dead.

Tug McTighe (47:11)
They call Gail. And Gail

tells, has told, already told. During all this, we cut to Gail telling in the edit suite, telling Jodie, Tom did it. Look on the news. Or no, not Tom. Colt did it. my God, he's a murderer. I can't believe it. He must have been jealous. And she can't believe it. And then she comes back in and says, my God, this has happened. He's dead. It's on the news. Huge explosion. But of course.

Matt (47:27)
He's a murderer. Yeah

Tug McTighe (47:40)
Because Colt is a great stunt man, he set up the boat just perfectly so he can dive off. And we see him swimming after diving off the exploding boat. That is, Matt, symbolic of a baptism. He shrugs off his Miami jacket, symbolizing he is being reborn into a new and better version of himself. So I love that,

Matt (47:54)
It's my advice jacket.

I thought that was great. didn't catch it. I didn't catch that. But since you say it, it makes a lot of sense.

Tug McTighe (48:06)
You have

decades of literature classes over here.

Matt (48:10)
Yeah, no, no, I love it. Awesome. So the next day, is suddenly, Tom Ryder shows up on set like nothing happened. Like he's ready to film the rest of this movie. Right, Colt sneaks on set in this funny alien costume and he sneaks into Jodie's trailer and he's trying to talk to her but he's got this voice thing.

Tug McTighe (48:19)
Right. We can finish the movie! Right. Right.

this with this robotic Yeah.

And she thinks he's

right. She's thinks she's being attacked and she beats the shit out of him. Yeah, it's great. Right. Yeah.

Matt (48:38)
He thinks she's gonna attack, so she beats the crap out of him and she stabs him in the leg with a pen. That was pretty great.

And he finally gives her the thumbs up as she's strangling him and she realizes that it's him. So they realize that, this is funny too, she says, you know what we need to do? And he says, yeah, we need to get him and beat the shit out of him. She says like three times, because he really wants to beat up that guy.

Tug McTighe (48:48)
Right. And she takes right.

beat the shit out of him. This was Nick's favorite part. Nick was doing this because he says it like three times. Yeah. She goes, no dummy. She goes, no,

we need to play to his ego. Make him do the big car jump because Colt was supposed to do this big car jump that they can't do now because he's not there to do it because he's dead. They don't seem to care. But

Matt (49:17)
Right, so that was the idea that

Colt said, you know, we need to make him do is make him make him do his own stunt. Because that was the whole thing. When he killed that guy, when he killed his his his when he killed Henry, he said that was the thing that prompted him that Henry said, do you do your own stunts like he insulted him? When in fact, he does not do his own stunts, but

Tug McTighe (49:24)
That's right. Right.

killed Henry.

Right. Right. Right. Right.

Matt (49:43)
Anyway, she thought that would be the great way to or he I think it was I think it was Colt's idea. Make him do his own stunt.

Tug McTighe (49:50)
Yeah.

And she says, we'll mic him up and you'll get it. He'll tell us. He'll confess. Right. And we'll record it. have, right.

Matt (49:58)
Right, we'll mic him up and he

says, we'll mic him up and he says, yeah, we'll beat the shit out of him. He says, well, no, we'll get him to confess.

Tug McTighe (50:03)
Beat the shit out of him. Right. and

she goes, he's like, that's better. Right. So they tricked Tom into participating in this stunt sequence that they've set up for green screen, but then they removed the green screen and Colt jumps in the car and starts driving it. And then there is a long, beautiful stunt after stunt.

after stunt sequence where suddenly Gale has like 20 different cars of goons, but the stunt guys are all on Colt's side and they're all on Jody's side and they're like, get him into the canyon. And they've set up the pyrotechnics and they're go for one. They blow the bad guy up, go for two, right? All this.

Matt (50:32)
Bye.

Right.

That's pretty great. I wondered

how many henchmen did they have? Because I feel like they have a huge, I don't know where that line item comes in. If you're a producer, I've got henchmen. But that was pretty good. And they're in the car together and they're doing a big jump, right?

Tug McTighe (50:47)
It seems like a lot. Yeah, it seems like a lot.

Yeah, right. the budget. Yeah. So there's all these, yeah. There are all these,

yeah. And they're driving to it. And Colt is no detective because he's like, he goes, so why did you do it, Tom Ryder? And he's like, why do you keep calling me Tom Ryder? I don't know, but I'm Colt Sievers and I didn't do it, Tom Ryder. And he goes, I know you didn't.

Matt (51:17)
Right. Is that your name?

Tug McTighe (51:19)
I know you didn't do it Colt. I'm the one that did it because I was fucking mad at you and did it so he can so you're saying you're the one that killed Henry Tom writer he's like you're weird man but you're you know anyway so there's a lot of a lot of funny bit business in there so they jump the huge jump there

Matt (51:24)
Right.

Yes, I did it. Why do you keep saying my name? It was pretty funny.

Oh,

which was, okay, so that is Colt making up for an earlier scene where this was for a Comic-Con. And at the very beginning of the movie, he'd like run into her camera right when he met her in Australia. Right. And she's like, that's a Comic-Con scene. So he said, I'll make that up to you. So this scene, was him and him and Tom Rider, it was Colt and Tom.

Tug McTighe (51:52)
Alright!

he yeah he wrecked the car interior camera

Matt (52:10)
going over this huge ramp and jumping over a ravine and that was their next Comic-Con scene, which he did, which was cool.

Tug McTighe (52:12)
Reveen, right.

So then through

a lot of again stunt craziness, Gail, they get the recording like we got you fucker. Gail suddenly has a 357 Magnum that she pistol whips the sound engineer and gets the suitcase with the sound. She gets a helicopter. There's a helicopter chase. Jody rides up, Colt jumps on the crane of the camera on the camera car.

Matt (52:32)
Yeah, right.

Tug McTighe (52:44)
He jumps to the helicopter, there's a fight up there that goes on and on and on. And then he finally beats up both Gail and Tom Ryder, gets the recording, and then does what I thought was the coolest fucking stunt in the whole thing, where somebody jumped like 200 feet from a helicopter onto that airbag. And the guys are, yep, and they're like, get them airbag mobile, we need to chase them and save them. So there's all kinds of fun shit that happens there.

Suffice it to say that he gets the recording, he jumps safely onto the airbag from the helicopter, Jodie runs up, they make up and kiss, and then the police come and pick up Tom Ryder and Gail, and the good guy wins in the end.

Matt (53:30)
Okay, so there was this one scene. Do you remember when the guy got the carabiner attached to him in a dragon way and he said, I'm on vacation. Yeah, so the movie City Slickers with Billy Crystal, that was him getting pulled behind a cow and saying, I'm on vacation. So it was a call back to that, yeah. But I saw that and I thought that was hilarious.

Tug McTighe (53:39)
Yeah, yeah, they're hooking these guys up to carabiners and yanking them off the, yeah.

my god, it totally was. that's funny. That's funny.

So everybody wins. The bad guys get theirs. The good guys get theirs. The guy gets the girl, which I always want to happen. And now we cut.

to Metal Storm's premiere at San Diego Comic Con. it's the text is brutal. Like it looks so stupid. But who now is starring? Who have they replaced with the digital technology? And they called him. Yeah, they get Jason Momoa to replace Tom Ryder in Metal Storm. And he's the new lead Alma. Alma wanted a film, a film producer credit.

Matt (54:21)
It's Jason Momoa.

Tug McTighe (54:31)
So she's the producer. And then you hear Colt in the audience with Dan Winston Duke and they're whistling. And then you hear the voiceover again, man, Metal Storm became a huge hit. Jodie became a huge director. It all worked out in the end. We were together and everything. And then you cut to them. You had seen a flashback of them and their relationship earlier in the film.

They're just sitting in the car in his truck on the beach doing donuts and Now it's him her and Jean-Claude the dog is This is doing the doing the donuts. So all of that.

Matt (55:04)
Yeah, absolutely. It's fun. There's a

do you remember the post-its? There was one that was is it Momoa or Moama?

Tug McTighe (55:14)
Moa or Momoa, yeah. And I also, one of the posts that said, sell the cockatoo. And he opened the window and goes, get out of here, to the cockatoo and it flies away.

Matt (55:16)
Okay, so there's a little.

And the backside was by a koala.

Tug McTighe (55:26)
By a koala, that's right. So then there's this great credit stuff where it's the behind the scenes footage of the stunts that it took to shoot the movie. And the one is nuts when the guy falls out of the helicopter, which is just insane. But that part's really cool. And again, I love that they took the time to pay homage to those people who are just talking about unsung heroes. None of this shit happened.

Matt (55:28)
was the reverse.

But the movie was

Tug McTighe (55:51)
None of this shit happens without them. That's exactly right. So then it

Matt (55:51)
just a love letter to these people. Absolutely.

Tug McTighe (55:56)
has enough Marvel people in it, So there has to be a post credits scene and you would not be disappointed.

Matt (56:03)
I was glad that they put it as a post credit scene. obviously this called back to the Fall Guy, the 1980s show with Lee Majors and Heather Thomas and another guy that played Howie whose name I don't remember. I know I saw a couple of those episodes back in the day. So they did do a post credit scene where they

showed up and they were kind of they're the police but they're not the police they were like the studio police and Aaron Taylor Johnson is trying to call his agent and he wanders out onto a field yeah yeah that was rough because Lee Majors looked like he'd had some work done but she also looked like she really had work done I mentioned this to my mom

Tug McTighe (56:30)
Were there the police?

Yeah.

Well, they're trying to arrest him, go get in the car. And Heather Thomas is there too.

Yeah.

Matt (56:58)
I think it's really hard for women in Hollywood to have to look great when you're 50 or 60 or 70 or 80. It's just not fair. It's not at all. Yeah. So that was...

Tug McTighe (57:01)
Unbelievable. for sure.

or 70. Yeah, it's really fucking hard. and it's and it's not the same for men, which which sucks. But anyway, so they arrest.

So they call back to the Fall guy Lee Majors and Heather Thomas arrest him. And then you see Alma calling Jason she goes get me Jason Momoa. And that's how you learn that he was in it.

Matt (57:23)
great.

Right. But Aaron Taylor Johnson blows himself up. Like he actually, he actually gets cell service, but

Tug McTighe (57:28)
yeah, yeah, he runs into it says no radio. Yeah, it says

no phones, no radio. And it's cause he's got all these explosives and then he blows up, which was a nice end for that fuck stick. So again, I thought, again, I just love the credit scenes of them actually making the movie. And there was a bunch of scenes too, where you would see the stunt and then you would see the guy who did the stunt and probably the director Veach.

Matt (57:37)
Yeah, it sets off the pyrotechnics. Yeah, so that was the end of him.

Tug McTighe (57:56)
like hugging man, like not like, hey, good job, like no way to go. You just jumped a car 200 fucking feet and you walked away. So that sort of gave me gave it some gravitas that I didn't know it had either.

Matt (58:05)
Right.

Well, here's a little anecdote. Leach called up Jason Momoa and said, hey, would you come here and do this, like do a day for us? And he said, sure. And Jason Momoa flew from New Zealand for a day to do this and fly back to whatever he was working. So I think people just love this guy.

Tug McTighe (58:24)
Right, to come do this. Yeah, yeah.

Right, right.

Yeah, I think he's, he's

okay, so you can tell I really liked it. I'm really glad I saw it, wanted to see it. Super glad I saw it. I'll watch it again when I'm not, you know, studying it for this, for this podcast, but I just liked that it was a movie and you, you at the beginning, you're like, I don't know if it's a rom-com. And I mentioned Robert McKee when I went to that seminar, he would say, this is an action thriller, complicated by a love story.

Matt (58:39)
Good.

Mm-hmm.

Tug McTighe (58:59)
So I don't think, yeah, it is definitely an action movie. But it's complicated by a love story and there's a mystery, It's checking a couple boxes, right?

Matt (59:03)
not easily defined. I think that's what I loved about it. I love that it wasn't, it wasn't

absolutely. Last thing I would say about it is that Ryan Gosling reportedly ran into Steven Spielberg who said he loved this movie.

Tug McTighe (59:19)
Okay, and right, that's where you end. If Spielberg says, I really like it, right? You could just be like, hey man, I got the thumbs up from Spielberg. What the fuck else do I want? Right? Right? Well, I have one last thing to say too though. Blake Shelton sings an updated version of the Forgotten Stuntman that was the theme song from the Fall Guy, which I thought was pretty, a nice bit of fan service again.

Matt (59:21)
Right? Like what else do need to do? Like I'm gonna retire. Super, I'm done. I'm just gonna retire right now.

Yes.

Tug McTighe (59:46)
But it's funny because when you listen to the original, it references like Bo Derrick and Cheryl Teagues and Robert Redford. not sure the Gen Zers know who those people are. then there's another thing. Sorry, that was the second last thing I'll say. There was also, they also played the Miami Vice theme a couple of times when he was doing his

Matt (59:54)
Yep.

Fairfaxet majors.

They did. I love that.

Tug McTighe (1:00:08)
Boatscape, but yeah gosh

Matt (1:00:10)
Yeah, no, I loved it. And wait one last thing. They

also did the Lee majors bionic man $6 million man. Yes.

Tug McTighe (1:00:18)
Yeah, they did. Yeah, he

was there a punch and he did they did it. Yeah, that's funny. Just these little touches. 100 % I'm I had cinema missed it and I'm glad I have cinema missed it no more.

Matt (1:00:22)
They did that two or three times. I thought that was awesome. All right, so would you recommend this movie, Tug?

You

Tug McTighe (1:00:34)
if that's even a thing.

Matt (1:00:36)
It is now.

Tug McTighe (1:00:37)
Well, that was a great pick, buddy. I'm really glad I saw it, and I can't wait to see Metal Storm with you.

Okay, so Matt, what are we gonna watch next?

Matt (1:00:48)
Something sewer related?

Tug McTighe (1:00:50)
And is there pizza involved?

Matt (1:00:53)
Ideally, yes, maybe involving reptiles.

Tug McTighe (1:00:54)
Yes, and is there any radioactive

ooze? That's right, friends. Ridiculously, Matt Lora has never seen the 1990 masterpiece Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the ridge with the Jim Henson Creature Shop created Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Muppet full-size turtle suits, which as a Jim Henson man, I cannot wait to discuss with him.

Matt (1:00:59)
Yes, do you have something in mind?

awesome.

Tug McTighe (1:01:24)
All right, hey, this was fun. Fall Guy, I'm glad I sent a saw it. If you sent a missed something, you can always fix it by renting, watching, streaming, or even illegally streaming pretty much any movie of your choice. So thanks for listening. I am Tug.

Matt (1:01:40)
I'm Matt. Also, I want to give a shout out to John Carlton who gave us some great advice this time. And if you have any feedback, we'd love to hear it.

Tug McTighe (1:01:49)
Yeah, for sure. Peace!