CINEMISSES! Hot Fuzz

In this episode, with sirens blaring and tires screeching, Matt and Tug take on  Hot Fuzz, an arresting action-comedy directed by Edgar Wright and starring Simon Pegg and Nick Frost. They explore how it both celebrates and takes the piss out of 80s and 90s action movies and dissect the unique style of Edgar Wright. They also  absolutely fawn over the film's cast, which includes not only Pegg and Frost, but a long list of British actors you have assuredly seen somewhere before. Along the way there's back and forth about the movie's dark humor, action-packed sequences, and character development. Matt can't get enough of this movie and if you don't like it, he says you can JOG ON! PBBBBT!

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Transcript

Matt Loehrer (00:00)
Three, two, one. Hey, tug.

Tug McTighe (00:03)
Hi Matt, how are you buddy?

Matt Loehrer (00:04)
I'm doing great. We're getting ready for another snowpocalypse. Midnight tonight.

Tug McTighe (00:08)
I know it,

yeah, it's gonna snow again the next, and it's literally butt cold. And if anybody knows, butt cold is cold. Yeah. Yeah, so really healthy to jump like a 70 degree swing in 96 hours. Yeah, for sure. So.

Matt Loehrer (00:17)
It is cold and then Sunday it'll be like 60 degrees.

Yeah, now we're all going to be sick and dying. But a good

time to maybe watch a movie. So nice segue there. You, like I grew up in the action packed 80s and 90s, but mostly the 80s, right?

Tug McTighe (00:36)
They were action-packed and I did grow up in them and I remember it fondly.

Matt Loehrer (00:39)
Right.

So you've seen Point Break, right? You've seen Die Hard. OK, you've probably seen Lethal Weapon, Under Siege, Sudden Impact, maybe even the Jean-Claude Van Damme movie Double Impact, where he played twins.

Tug McTighe (00:44)
I've seen point break.

I've seen Die Hard.

He played

his set of twins because of his tremendous acting prowess.

Matt Loehrer (01:01)
He did, he was great.

Right, and that's why it's called Double Impact, there's two of them. So you've likely seen every two world, two word titled action movie the United States has to offer, but it's.

Tug McTighe (01:07)
Right, there's two.

There was a moment in time when they were all two words, like that. So, yeah.

Matt Loehrer (01:19)
Right. But

until you've seen the British take on action movies, which namely is the Edgar Wright directed 2007 nitro-fueled thrill ride Hot Fuzz Buddy, as the British say, you haven't seen shite.

Tug McTighe (01:33)
I love it. No, I hadn't seen Hot Fuzz, which is weird. Well, there's a bit of a story behind it, but I was a large fan or am a large fan of Shaun of the Dead and Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg and Nick Frost and they're sort of, if it's not a repertory cast, they work with the same people over and over again, which I'm sure we'll get to. But I went...

Matt Loehrer (01:46)
No,

Tug McTighe (02:00)
to see I was at my brother's wedding. And we went we went to the reception out after the reception, got back to the hotel where we had all this booze in the hotel room still. And then I'm like, I'm watching hot fuzz on the on the hotel o vision. And you can probably guess what I passed out in about three minutes. So so it's been a blind spot for me for long time. I've seen the world's end.

Matt Loehrer (02:18)
And then what happened?

Tug McTighe (02:27)
which is sort of the third leg of this stool, which I thought was okay. And then, but after this, I'm gonna check it out again. Yeah.

Matt Loehrer (02:27)
Mm-hmm.

It sure was.

You absolutely should. It's better on a

rewatch and it matured really pretty well.

Tug McTighe (02:40)
I'm gonna check it out again,

just because, I may be, spoiler alert, I may be giving myself away here. I like these guys and I like what they do. So yeah, let's get into it.

Matt Loehrer (02:50)
Yeah, I love this movie. I have the whole Cornetto trilogy on Blu-ray, so I was happy to lend that to you. why don't you tell me what you think you knew about this

Tug McTighe (03:00)
All right, so I knew Simon Pegg. I knew Nick Frost. I knew Edgar Wright. As I said, I've seen Shaun of the Dead, watched it on a plane. I was cackling like a fool. I'm sure they thought I was insane. And I also love Scott Pilgrim, which is another sort of peak Edgar Wright moment for me. And we may have to do a deep dive into Scott Pilgrim and try to

Matt Loehrer (03:21)
Absolutely.

Tug McTighe (03:26)
suss out why it wasn't the bigger hit and why. A lot of people don't like it, but I know you and I both adore it. And it's Edgar Wrighty too. We're gonna use that as an adjective today. So I knew this was a sort of peak Edgar Wright moment and it was part of this trilogy. I knew it was British as a lifetime soccer fan and.

Matt Loehrer (03:38)
Very much so.

Mm-hmm.

It's really British.

Tug McTighe (03:49)
You know, when the only way to be a soccer fan was knowing English people in in the late seventies and early eighties. I'm an Anglophile, right? I knew it's British. I know it's very British. Danny's hat alone will tell you that it's British. He's wearing the Bobby sort of hat. And then I knew, I knew what the log line might, I knew it was about a hard charging London cop who gets transferred to a sleepy little village somewhere outside the city. And it's probably, you know, a place named like Wickersham upon bars or something like that. Right. There's.

Matt Loehrer (04:04)
Mm-hmm.

Tug McTighe (04:18)
so many terrific names. And that's it. knew, I said for Gloucester, Gloucestershire. I knew, yeah, I knew Simon Pegg played this fucking awesome cop who gets sent to this town probably because he did something wrong, which I think is a funny way to get into it. It turns out he got sent there because he's doing something right. So yeah.

Matt Loehrer (04:19)
Sure. Or Sanford, Sanford, Sanford Gloucester. Gloucester, Gloucester, Gloucester,

Absolutely. That's

so that feeds into the log line. I think you pretty much nailed it. He's an overachieving London police sergeant. He's transferred to a village where the easygoing officers object to his fervor for regulations, all while a string of grisly murder strikes the town. So this is Edgar Wright's take on buddy cop action movies, which I guess there were no British ones. So he thought that that was about time to fix it.

Tug McTighe (04:44)
That's about it.

Yeah, not bad.

Matt Loehrer (05:10)
He co-wrote this film with Simon Pegg. Edgar Wright does a lot of writing and Simon Pegg does too. There are a ton of great British actors in this that you've seen in a million things. Right. If you've seen Shaun of the Dead or The World's End, especially because Edgar Wright likes to use the same people again and again and again and because they're great. mean, I I love the idea of British actors because you will see them in a drama or you'll see them in a comedy. You'll see them in a

Tug McTighe (05:17)
Boy, that is accurate you ain't

Matt Loehrer (05:39)
blockbuster movie or you'll see them in an episode of Doctor Who just showing up in a cameo. And England's pretty small as a country. So I think you see a of the same people. All-star cast includes Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, constant collaborators that you'll see in a lot of things. Martin Freeman right at the beginning. And actually, he does the voiceover, I believe, the narration that introduces Nick Angel.

Tug McTighe (05:42)
Yeah, 100%.

Right, right.

Yeah, one of my favorites.

One of my favorites, Martin Freeman.

Matt Loehrer (06:08)
Yeah, really great.

Bill Nye is in it. Jim Broadbent is in it. And what was the story with his involvement?

Tug McTighe (06:16)
Yeah, Jim Broadbent, which we'll talk about him later, he liked Shaun of the Dead. And he reached out to Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg and said, hey, I'd like to be in your next movie, which I just think is fantastic. They give a big part, right?

Matt Loehrer (06:31)
Yeah, yeah, one of the biggest. Patty Considine.

Tug McTighe (06:34)
And then, know, again,

yeah, Patty Constantine, who I love, who I, as I was watching Andy, think it's Andy, he's Wainwright. There's like Wainwright and Clowright or whatever, Cartwright and Wainwright. But he, I'm like, man, he looks familiar. He is the king in the recent Game of Thrones House of the Dragon.

Matt Loehrer (06:42)
Wayne Wright and Carly. Hart Wright and Wayne Wright.

Right, very good. Rafe Spall, was Sean's coworker at the appliance store in Shaun of the Dead. He just didn't have mustache back then. Bill Bailey, surgeon's turner. Carl Johnson as PC Bob Walker, who speaks gibberish. And Timothy Dalton as Simon Skinner, and he just chewed scenery the entire time. He was amazing.

Tug McTighe (07:00)
there you go, okay

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Timothy.

So I was a little bit, had a few beers with you earlier in the day when I was watching this, I was texting you when I saw it, because I didn't know he was in it. I didn't watch any trailers or anything. And I'm like, oh, Timothy Dalton, he was Bond for one movie, The Living Daylights, because they wanted, they didn't want him. They wanted Pierce Brosnan, who was a big star at that time in Remington Steel TV show.

Matt Loehrer (07:25)
okay.

Right, for a bomb.

Tug McTighe (07:42)
And

they offered it Bond to Piers Brosnan, but he was too busy working on the show that then got canceled and he got to be Bond later, as you'll recall. And little known fact, little remembered, the Living Daylights theme song was written and performed by A-Ha of Take On Me.

Matt Loehrer (08:02)
Bond movies have always been good for, hey, we're gonna get a radio hit out of this. So you'd get like a view to a kill by Duran Duran and Carly Simon and Sheen East and for sure. Yes, so he, it was his idea to grow the mustache. He thought it would make him look sleazier and it would remind people of, he was Prince Baron in the Flash Gordon movie. Yes. So you also got some uncredited people.

Tug McTighe (08:06)
100 % yeah 100 % yep nobody does it nobody does it better by Carly Simon yep

Okay.

in Flash Gordon, yeah.

Matt Loehrer (08:27)
Uncredited actor Stephen Merchant as Peter Ian Staker or P.I. Staker or Piss Taker, which turned out to be his actual name. Kate Blanchett and we'll talk about that because that was a really fun scene.

Tug McTighe (08:32)
Piss taker, right? Turns out his actual name. Yeah.

which I never would

have known until you told me. Cause she's got the mask and the goggles. Yeah.

Matt Loehrer (08:44)
Right. And then once you know it's

yeah, once you know it's her, you're like, yeah, that's her. Peter Jackson was Santa Claus, the one that stabbed him in the hand. Right. And Edgar Wright himself is a shelf stacker, which I never actually saw that scene. I mean, I'm sure I saw it. So I'll make this really quick. His filmography started in TV. He had a TV show called Asylum that starred a young Simon Pegg.

Tug McTighe (08:50)
Right, the knife stabbing Santa.

Matt Loehrer (09:10)
And it ran, think, six episodes on the BBC He was on something called Mash and Peas, which it sounds like a British comedy variety show. Right. Right. Bangers and Mash. Right. So he just did a bunch of shows. then Jessica Stevenson, who you remember was Sean's ex-girlfriend and Sean of the Dead, She and

Tug McTighe (09:18)
breakfast sounds like a breakfast all of the mash all of the mash and peas please please

Matt Loehrer (09:32)
Simon Pegg were in a movie called Spaced for two seasons between 1999 and 2001 But a ton of the actors that were in this

in these movies were on space. when Simon Pegg and Jessica Stevenson were going to make the show, they said, hey, we should really get Edgar Wright to direct. So brought him back, brought him in on that. And then they just kind of started making movies. So shot of the dead.

Tug McTighe (09:55)
I love that.

we talk about creativity and being in a creative industry and creative businesses a lot in this podcast. that's exactly what I, well, it's what I have done. have surrounded myself. Once I find somebody I like working with, like you, like I, when I met you, I hired you at Callahan and then that ended and then you went out on your own. And then I quickly brought you in that as a freelancer. Now this is the second.

or third time we've worked together and that's when we became friends. And I have that with several people in my career that it's just so, that is true. Yeah, right? When it works, when it works, when it works camaraderie wise, works creatively and works collaboratively. I mean, I wouldn't, I don't know why you wouldn't keep doing it.

Matt Loehrer (10:29)
That's because you know, 8 billion people. no, why wouldn't why wouldn't you work with people you like and want to spend

Yeah, for sure. he'd made some, he did his Cornetto trilogy. Cornetto, by the way, is a kind of Italian ice cream cone that apparently they like in Britain. They used it in the first one. It was red because there were zombies, so lots of blood. The color, so that, I don't remember what flavor it was, like peanut butter or something. I guess it comes in a of flavors. There was a blue one in Hot Fuzz because they're cops and there was a green one in World's End because they are, we're dealing with aliens. So.

Tug McTighe (10:50)
He keeps eating, yeah.

Matt Loehrer (11:09)
ground there. He did Inventures of Tintin. He was involved as a writer on that. So he worked with Spielberg, which was cool.

Tug McTighe (11:15)
I

did not know that, I didn't know he was part of that.

Matt Loehrer (11:18)
Mm hmm. And in 2015, he was originally hired to write and direct Ant-Man, which I think would have been really cool. But he had a great line which said they ended up amicably parting. He was replaced by Peyton Reed, but he still got a writer credit on it. He said they wanted to make a Marvel movie, but he didn't think they wanted to make an Edgar Wright movie. And I get that.

Tug McTighe (11:38)
Yeah, think that's,

I think it's really important, creative knowledge of yourself too. Like I'm not gonna be able to turn what I do into their thing. so yeah, it's better for me to lead the project.

Matt Loehrer (11:48)
And I don't want to make a movie that's not my thing. don't, you know, he's not that kind of, he's, he has very much a style and I love it.

Tug McTighe (11:50)
That's exactly right. And this is

gonna sound really stupid. No, not this is, I am going to sound really stupid. I didn't know Baby Driver was his. And now when I look at Baby Driver, I'm like, fucking, of course it's his.

Matt Loehrer (12:02)
else.

Right, exactly,

he's doing a version of The Running Man, like a remake of that, but based on, so I'm a kind of a Stephen King nerd. And he did those Bachman books and it had a number of, yeah, The Running Man, he had another one called The Long Walk, which

Tug McTighe (12:18)
Yep, the Running Man.

I really like the

long walk. think there's someone's either making a a movie was made recently, relatively recently, or they're making a movie, which I'd like to watch that, yeah.

Matt Loehrer (12:31)
They're making that one too. So

there's a lot of new Stephen King stuff coming up, So yes, Hot Fuzz is the second and most commercially successful film of those three. There were a hundred action films used as, or over a hundred used as inspiration for the script. And he told

Tug McTighe (12:45)
That is so many action films.

Matt Loehrer (12:49)
But Edgar Wright told Nick Frost to watch, he gave him a list of 20, and Nick Frost watched Bad Boys 2 and that was it.

Tug McTighe (12:56)
Right, and they talk about bad boys too a lot in this.

Matt Loehrer (12:59)
Empire Magazine named it the 67th best movie of the 21st century,

this was filmed in Wells Somerset, which I I believe it's where Edgar Wright grew up. It's smack dab in the middle of the country. It's the population's about 12000. It grossed 80 million dollars worldwide on a budget of 16 million dollars

Tomato meter, what do you think?

Tug McTighe (13:23)
Well, I can see right here on our script outline thing that it's 91%, which we've had a string of Bs. That's an A.

Matt Loehrer (13:26)
It is. I was going to pretend.

You

know, that's an A. And the popcorn meter, like a lot of times it's like the critics love it and the public hates it, but popcorn meter is at 89 % with 250,000 ratings.

Tug McTighe (13:39)
Right. These

are not statistically different, right? So a solid A here.

Matt Loehrer (13:46)
Right.

Right. So you want to jump into the movie?

Tug McTighe (13:50)
Sure do.

Matt Loehrer (13:52)
Very good. OK, so Nicholas Angel is an exceptional metropolitan police sergeant in London. And from the very start, the minute we walk, we see this long intro of him walking down a hallway and getting closer and walking very stiffly and very assertively.

Tug McTighe (14:08)
He very professionally takes off his cap and puts it under his arm and you can see his uniform. Yeah, he is put together.

Matt Loehrer (14:16)
Yeah, and he's making this stern face and then he sticks out his ID and it's the exact same face,

Tug McTighe (14:22)
same face of his face, right.

Matt Loehrer (14:24)
Yeah. So then they go into a kind of an explanation of who he is, you know, very, very matter of fact, it's Martin Freeman, I think, narrating it, you know, Nicholas Angel, Metropolitan Police Sergeant in London, and just like bullet points. Yeah.

Tug McTighe (14:38)
Right, graduated this, did this,

right? Still holds the record for a hundred yard dash. Is proficient in blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's this Edgar Wright, really Edgar Wrighty sequence that I think you feel, I think you feel like these sequences are like two minutes. And I think they're all like 30 seconds They feel bigger than they are.

Matt Loehrer (14:44)
or the stuff like that. Yeah.

Tug McTighe (15:06)
This is gonna go back to our sort of consistent show don't tell thing. I know there's voiceover, but man, you get a ton of information because of the editing style, the swish pans and the cut and the card cut and the hard cut. You get a ton of information in a short amount of time, which is really sets you off on this energetic journey.

Matt Loehrer (15:10)
Mm-hmm.

Exactly. He's got a he's got a style. He uses a lot of whip pans where the camera whips around and stops and then whips around again and stops. He does a lot of zooms. He did that in Shaun of the Dead, So this is kind of telling us who he is. He's advanced advanced driving and advanced cycling. So he's in a car and he peels out. Then he's in the bike and he peels out and he's just making that same face.

Tug McTighe (15:47)
Right, he has the bike cop. Right.

Matt Loehrer (15:53)
So he gets called in. Oh, and this is all to the this to goody two shoes by Adam and.

Tug McTighe (16:00)
Goodie Two Shoes

by Adam and the Ants. We'll talk about the sort of 80s and 90s sort of punky, new wavey stuff. A lot of that, yeah.

Matt Loehrer (16:07)
Yeah, a lot of music in this.

Really great. So he gets called in by his boss, which is Mark Freeman, who tells him, hey, we're going to make you sergeant. He says, great. He says, in Sanford Glasses here, and he says, I'm sorry, where?

Tug McTighe (16:18)
You're right. And he goes, isn't there a

sergeant job in London? No, there's not. Can I keep my regular job? No, you can't. And then he says, I want to see the inspector. And he goes, all right, I'll call him. And then who should?

Matt Loehrer (16:24)
Right. Is there anything I knew about this? No.

Well, no, he

says, he says, know, you really want me to have him come all the way down here? You want me to you want me to call him? You want me to get the inspector? He's like, yes. So the next second we see we see Coogan. It was great.

Tug McTighe (16:42)
Steve Coogan's there and it's

a great bit because he was stabbed by Father Christmas earlier and Martin Freeman goes, how's your hand? Little stiff. Good. Then Steve Coogan comes and says, how's your hand? He says, a little stiff. And he goes, promise you he's going to tell you exactly the same thing that I told you. And he proceeds to tell him exactly the same thing that he told him.

Matt Loehrer (16:52)
let's see.

Yeah. by the way, Father Christmas was played by Peter Jackson. Yes, the director of Lord of the Rings. Kind of cool.

Tug McTighe (17:08)
Peter uncredited cameo. So Matt, is that

good enough for for Nicholas Angel? His boss and then his boss's boss?

Matt Loehrer (17:16)
No, he's like, well,

you're to make me call the chief inspector? And he's like, I think you have to do it. And he's like, you really want me to get him down here? It's like, OK. And then he goes, he's in the next.

Tug McTighe (17:27)
Kenneth and

the doors open and Bill Nye shows up, who is an abject boss of British actors. He's in so many things, not limited to Harry Potter and also the underworld series of films.

Matt Loehrer (17:38)
yeah, he's amazing. He's everywhere.

was he in that? He was also in the one of the curses of the Black Pearl over those. The pirate movies. Yeah, he's David Jones. So.

Tug McTighe (17:50)
yeah, was, is he David Jones?

He's also the aging

rock star in Love Actually.

Matt Loehrer (17:57)
Yes, he was. he basically, he cuts through all the crap and says, listen, you need to leave because you're making us all look bad. And if you stay here, we're going to lose our jobs. So they're sending it, they're going to

Tug McTighe (18:06)
We all stink compared to you. Yeah. Yeah, the numbers are, he's like,

the numbers are fantastic. You're, you know, you've got a sterling record, but you're making us all look bad. So we got to get you hell out of here.

Matt Loehrer (18:20)
Yeah, so so angel says, well, there's one thing you haven't recognized. It's what the team is going to make of this. He turns. They're having a party. Yeah, they're doing in other crackers, the things that pop and anyway, so.

Tug McTighe (18:26)
Cut. Goodbye, Nicholas. Farewell. Congrats. They're already drinking the whole team.

Yeah. And hey, in

in a, in a, in something I noticed the second time I watched it, Steve Coogan talks about, Sanford and says a foreshadowing moment. says, they've it's great. You'll love it. They've won village of the year, like a million times. So that will come back to, to, we'll come back to, to feature in the plot heavily.

Matt Loehrer (18:59)
He also had a for I just thought this was a funny line where he's moved out from he broke up with Jeanine. He says, Where are you living? And Martin Freeman says, he's living with the recruits living out of cardboard boxes. Steve Coogan says, Well, then you're packed already. That was great. So speaking of Jeanine, now he's got to go see Jeanine.

Tug McTighe (19:12)
You packed already, right? Just that sort of British taking the piss out of everything. We then have...

right he wants to say and she's and she is a forensics expert in head to toe Tyvek with the goggles and the mask and there's blood everywhere and he comes in again

Matt Loehrer (19:28)
And a crime scene. Right.

Tug McTighe (19:34)
He goes and talks to her. they're having a chat about their breakup.

she says, look, and this is what we'll come back later. This key plot point. You know, you could never switch it off. You could never just be with me. You were always on the job. You'll never find someone to love until you let go of the job. And then he goes, I know you're right. I'll do better. And then he goes, know that window was broken from the inside.

So he's still like, he fucking can't stop.

Matt Loehrer (20:00)
Everybody's like.

So then he gets a call from his boss, his new boss at Sanford and Claustrasher. Inspector Butterman. I didn't know if you noticed this, he had a newspaper clipping on his wall in the barracks because I think this comes up later. Hero gun cop saves family, But there are issues with him and guns later and they don't really explain it.

Tug McTighe (20:12)
Great name.

No, they don't. That's one of my, a bit of my, one of my beefs.

Matt Loehrer (20:24)
It says

They say this story, because I posted on this, it says there was a family hostage drama and he stepped in to resolve the situation and that sort of thing. So, yes, now he's on his way to the country.

Tug McTighe (20:40)
And we get

another one of these great cut, cut, swish, move. He's got this piece, Lilly, he's on the train, he's at the station. Just this great Edgar Wright editing moment.

Matt Loehrer (20:53)
so there's all these jump cuts and he'll like duplicate a shot too, when he's standing with his peace lily outside the barracks, well then after a series of jump cuts with him on the train. it shows it, it shows a passage of time, but it's also kinetic. There's motion, it gets done quickly. And then we see them duplicate that shot where he's standing in front of.

Tug McTighe (21:06)
Right. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, he uses these, he uses these

match, he uses these match cuts too, right? Where it's you're walking, some, he's walking right to left and then he'll go, like someone will pass or he'll go behind up like a column and then they'll cut and he'll match that edit. He'll be then in a different location. He does that a lot.

Matt Loehrer (21:33)
He does those walking transitions, they call them. So that was really cool. and I think designers and artists and writers do this too. And I don't think it's derivative. I just think it's our process. You create kind of a vocabulary of how you work.

Tug McTighe (21:35)
Yeah, it's really cool.

every creative person has a bag of tricks and has their own system, design system, and it's you and you know how to use it, right? And you use it well,

Matt Loehrer (21:59)
Okay, so now he's in Sanford Gloucestershire. It's gonna be hard for me to say. He checks into his room because they were gonna set him up in a cottage and they said, by the way, the cottage isn't ready. So he is going to the hotel. He meets Joyce Cooper, who's the landlady, guess, or the rents the hotel. She says, well, we'll check into your room, fascist. He says, I beg your pardon. And she says she's doing she's doing a crossword.

Tug McTighe (22:14)
She's right there, running the hotel.

And he goes, what? Right. She's doing

a crossword while she's checking him in.

Matt Loehrer (22:29)
And he says, that's fascism. And she says, fascism, lovely. And he says, okay, well, I'll, I think I can get up to my room myself, hag. And she says, I beg your pardon. And he says, a frightful, a frightful or ugly old woman. It's seven down.

Tug McTighe (22:30)
fascism. thank you, love.

What? Right.

Seven down. he goes through his room. He's annoyed. So what's he do? He leaves. He goes to the pub, which you're not going to have an Edgar Wright movie without somebody going to a pub. And I'm glad we get to go to a pub. And also I think it's really important to note that the pub culture in London.

Matt Loehrer (22:57)
Absolutely, loves cub scenes.

Tug McTighe (23:03)
in England is so prevalent and so real that it is where a lot of things happen. And it is like these little towns, if they have two pubs, it's a miracle. So everybody's there. Everybody knows everybody. He, course,

Matt Loehrer (23:12)
Mm-hmm.

Right,

and they're walkable, they're inserted into the community. It's not like it is here where you get in your car and you drive somewhere and then you...

Tug McTighe (23:22)
That's right. That's right. He have no, no, no,

no. It's right over there. He of course doesn't drink. He gets a cranberry.

Matt Loehrer (23:30)
Right.

Tug McTighe (23:31)
He sees this group of kids in hoodies as he walks to the pub and he makes note of them. And I think Edgar Wright does this exceptionally well where nothing is out of place. If he brings something up, it will come back. And as a writer and a guy who loves movies, like again, we don't know shit about shit. We just know that we like movies and we like making stuff. I hate it when I think something's coming back and it does.

Matt Loehrer (23:46)
Yes.

Mm-hmm.

Tug McTighe (23:57)
He ties the bow up with everything so well. We'll just keep coming back to it as we talk about this.

Matt Loehrer (24:04)
Yeah, I agree 100%. And it shows that attention to the craft that I don't think every creator has where they'll insert something and it never pays off. mean, everything he puts in here There's nothing wasted. If he stuck something in the movie, it's gonna pay off down the road. Right.

Tug McTighe (24:22)
It stuck there for a reason. That's exactly right. That's exactly right.

Matt Loehrer (24:26)
All right, so very cool. So now we're in the pub. And yeah, so right when he walks in, Danny orders a pint of lager, and then Mary says, coming right up, my love, He orders another pint 38 seconds after the first one. Right, So

Tug McTighe (24:30)
Great fucking scene.

Yeah, I was gonna say it's like 10 seconds later. He sucked it down in 10 seconds. And this is Danny, this

is Nick Frost, right? To our listeners. We just, right, we just think it's, we just know it's Nick Frost, yes.

Matt Loehrer (24:48)
Yeah, we don't know that. Yeah. So at the time we think he's just some drunken guy at the bar, which he is.

we, Porter and her husband, Roy are the owners of the bar or the pub. Julia Deacon played Mary Porter. we get some details. He asked if he could look at the paper and they say, well, that's

not our newspaper, we're not fans of the local fish wrapper. So that's how we find out. I think that's great.

Tug McTighe (25:13)
And that's another important

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All right, so he gets this glass of cranberry juice, he's reading the rag, but he cannot, He cannot help himself, he starts to notice everything and he sees a table of kids and they're clearly kids drinking at the bar. He swooshes, he goes, sees another table, sees, and finally,

Matt Loehrer (26:25)
yeah.

Tug McTighe (26:30)
This kid's laughing. He just got braces. So he looks.

Matt Loehrer (26:33)
He's

blind, but he's blinded by the reflection of the braces.

Tug McTighe (26:36)
Right, right.

He makes a face like I'm not gonna fucking I'm gonna and he can't he he has to go because he's a cop he has to has to figure out what's going on with these underage kids and then he goes around

Matt Loehrer (26:49)
Well, he sees that

sign, he sees the sign that says, no admittance under age 21. He's like, I gotta do it.

Tug McTighe (26:53)
Right. And he

goes and he asks, he brings his badge out and asks them all, when's your birthday? March 8th. What year? You'd be 37. Out. Right? Like out, out. So cut. It's him and the owners left. Right?

Matt Loehrer (27:11)
I hear

like another cranberry juice and he says, I'm fine.

Tug McTighe (27:14)
No, I'm

fine. I don't need another one. such a just a great but again a nice he is a by the book hard-nosed can't stop doing his job

Matt Loehrer (27:24)
Uncompromising, yes. that's

So he leaves, he's on his way out and he and Danny are leaving at the same time and Danny's trying to get into his car with no luck.

Tug McTighe (27:32)
He

can't get the key in. And he goes, you're not driving are you? no, no, no. And then he starts walking.

Matt Loehrer (27:41)
And oh, and then he stops to look at the fountain and it's got all the town founders who are

Tug McTighe (27:47)
founders, the

support, hey, thanks for building the right, and then of course what happens is Danny gets get in the car and he backs up instead of going forward and Nicholas has to jump out of the way.

Matt Loehrer (28:01)
But it's not malicious. Like, we think he's trying to kill him. No, he was just drunk. By the way, reportedly, Nick Frost agreed to the role only if he could name the character, and Danny Buttermann was the

Tug McTighe (28:05)
No, just dropped, yeah, dropped.

Danny

Buttermann is where he came up with. So what happens? They get to the police station. Who are you? I'm Nicholas Angel. When do you start? Tomorrow. And he's literally arrested pretty much the whole town.

Matt Loehrer (28:15)
Yes.

sorry.

Right.

That was Sergeant Turner. Well, I see you've arrested the whole village. So he sends Danny to pass out. this was again, the pens. So there was a scene earlier in the movie where Angel, when he's being introduced, is taking his finals and scored excellent and he clicks his pen. That's kind of his thing. So Sergeant Turner says, you sure you want to process?

Tug McTighe (28:31)
That's so great.

Yeah, he puts Danny in the drunk tank, yeah.

Are you sure you want to process? Yeah.

Matt Loehrer (28:54)
You sure you're gonna process this lot? My pen's running out of ink and he says no problem. He has two pens.

Tug McTighe (28:59)
I got two, right?

So then another Edgar Wright, cut, cut, cut of him, of the mug shots. He's writing down, drunk and disorderly. It's just beautiful. Again, it's a beautiful montage telling us a lot of stuff's happening in a quick amount of time.

Matt Loehrer (29:15)
And kind of overlays of, you know, a close up of him writing down names and the kid had the traffic cone on his head for his mug shot. he goes.

Tug McTighe (29:23)
Yeah, and then he comes in and takes

it off. He's mad.

Matt Loehrer (29:26)
So yeah, a lot of that. And then another jump cut to Angel in bed in his pajamas with his, I guess, hand.

Tug McTighe (29:34)
The hand, exerciser, the hand strength, yeah. Cut.

Matt Loehrer (29:36)
And yeah, and then immediately cut to

it's the morning and he's gone. His bed is made, his clothes are neatly folded. So he's just a very fastidious.

Tug McTighe (29:45)
Yes. Nice use of fastidious.

Matt Loehrer (29:47)
And

thank you. And great music in the scene. So it cuts to Village Green Society by the Kinks, which really seems to fit, right? You had mentioned that you'd heard of the Fratellis before. I had not. And what's that name from?

Tug McTighe (29:52)
Great song. Yeah.

Yeah.

That is a reference to the Goonies. That's the bad guy family in the Goonies.

Matt Loehrer (30:05)
Very good. So great use of music in this. Ataman, XTC, who I love. T-Rex, Sweet, who I also love. But newer bands like the Fratellis and Supergrass and stuff like that.

Tug McTighe (30:14)
Yeah, it's

really nice. He's very good at music.

Matt Loehrer (30:18)
Yeah, I think of James Gunn, you know, how well he used...

Tug McTighe (30:20)
Very, yeah, for sure.

for sure. Cause you can't, yeah, you can't separate the soundtrack and guardians is a character. Yeah. Yeah. Different kind of vibe. Yeah.

Matt Loehrer (30:29)
Exactly. And I think the same, the same here, but it's a different, just different kind of music. He

very punk like. So, so now he's on a jog in the morning and everybody knows who he is.

Tug McTighe (30:39)
Right. Because

this is a tiny village, right? Everybody knows who he is. He meets Timothy Dalton here, chewing scenery like it's fucking candy. Right. Of prices. Come down to my grocery store, Et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. So Angel then goes into work.

Matt Loehrer (30:47)
It was great. Lock me up. I'm a slasher. What? a slasher. I'm a prices. So good.

Catch me later. Catch me later. I thought that was really great.

Tug McTighe (31:08)
where there's the same guy at the desk, but he's got better hair. And he's like, who are you? And he goes, I was here last night. Well, you're going to learn that there's two. There's a set of twins working at the front. And then he wonders where the drunk is. And then Danny Nick Frost shows up behind him in his police uniform. And we learned that he's also a cop. And he's the son of the inspector.

Matt Loehrer (31:31)
All

He's gone.

Who's gone? Why are you drinking? Why? It's him. Because I am one? Right.

Tug McTighe (31:35)
Right, who's gone to Tim? Why are you guys like the policemen? Because I am one? that's great.

So then we talked to Frank Buttermann, who is Danny's dad and the boss. And he's like, look, I'm not that big a stickler for the rules. We're trying to create the greater good for everyone. Some of this, I didn't press charges on some of this, et cetera, et cetera.

Matt Loehrer (31:47)
Mm-hmm.

Tug McTighe (31:57)
So you sort of learn what's, you learn that this is not gonna sit very well with Nicholas Angel.

Matt Loehrer (32:06)
Jim Broadbent. he takes him on a tour, like. You know the locker room riot room. Evidence room

Tug McTighe (32:07)
Great big bushy beard!

Yep.

Matt Loehrer (32:16)
The locker room is kind of a mess. The riot room is covered in dust and cobwebs and there's a hedgehog. There's a hedgehog in there.

Tug McTighe (32:21)
That's right.

in there and then the evidence room, nothing in it. Zero evidence. There's no evidence.

Matt Loehrer (32:25)
has absolutely there's absolutely no evidence. So that should probably

tell us something hilarious. So and then he gets to meet the whole cast, right? All the right. So the Andes, where are they called the Andes?

Tug McTighe (32:33)
Right, the police people.

because they're both called Andy.

Matt Loehrer (32:42)
is they're both named Andrew. Like we heard you were good. Sergeant Tony Fisher. Yeah, Sergeant Tony Fisher is kind of a goof. PC Bob Walker, who's elderly and speaks gibberish. Saxon. Yeah, actually Saxon was in real life, not a police dog because he was too friendly.

Tug McTighe (32:46)
We heard you were good.

He has the dog, Saxon.

There you go.

Matt Loehrer (33:03)
Yeah, and Doris Thatcher, who's played by Olivia Coleman, who's been in a billion things.

Tug McTighe (33:06)
She's, she's, her

IMDBs, you couldn't even read it in a day.

Matt Loehrer (33:10)
Yeah,

think Broadchurch with David Tennant was like her breakthrough thing, but she'd been in tons of stuff. There's been a lot of stuff after.

Tug McTighe (33:17)
absolute

staple.

Matt Loehrer (33:19)
Yeah, so Danny's trying to get to be friends with him. It's funny. It's 1130. They're like, well, it's time for lunch. gets to Edgar Wright. It's like a beer gets put in front of him and then it's replaced with a cranberry juice and let's do his face and he's just pissed off.

Tug McTighe (33:24)
Right, that-

It just cuts, yeah, it cuts, right?

Right. And then you get this great, again, a great, sort of earnest puppy dog of Nick, Nick that Frost is really good at. Hey, you, and he's, he's talking about all these action tropes. Have you ever, have you ever shot a gun while jumping? No. Have you ever shot two guns while jumping? No. Have you ever been in a high speed chase? Yes. Have you ever shot a gun when you're in a high speed chase? No. And he's just, so he's just trying to dig all this stuff out of him,

Matt Loehrer (33:59)
Right.

it true that a man has a place in his head where if you hit it with a gun, it'll explode? It just doesn't answer any of the questions.

Tug McTighe (34:06)
It'll just explode. No.

And again, of course, he is, Nicholas Angel is frustrated because nothing happens here. He's frustrated by his lazy and competent colleagues. He's frustrated. he meets the neighborhood watch, the NWA, the neighborhood watch, and they've got cameras all over the place. They've all got walkie talkies. He's frustrated with them. And again, just they're, they can't take, they're mad at the hoodies.

that we mentioned, right? But they're really mad at the living statue. You know, the guy paints himself gold and busks.

Matt Loehrer (34:35)
The living signature. This guy's fading in golden.

He was down by the fountain again. Here it is at 1 o'clock, at 2 o'clock, at 3 o'clock, and he's just in the same position.

Tug McTighe (34:46)
Two o'clock, three o'clock, and use the statue, right? Statue.

they have a very I notice this very good tech walkies, cameras, kind of a beauty. He has that war room in the police station. So

Again, a little bit of foreshadowing.

Matt Loehrer (35:01)
Yeah, there were a lot of fun, kind of almost throwaway lines too. Okay, so this is another thing I love about Edgar Wright is that there are a lot of reaction shots. There are a lot of visuals that are just cool and funny and subtle, but he puts them in there and also a lot of lines that are just even like puns. he just, every time he's talking about a.

Angel says, well, I don't want to upset the Apple cart. I think Cartwright says, yeah, because we also apples around here. And Danny says, doesn't your dad sell apples and raspberries? Right. You know, they gun there's more guns here in the country than there in the city. Everybody's packing guns like who? Farmers. Who else? Farmers, moms. But later on, Angel gets attacked.

Tug McTighe (35:36)
And Primes and Fairies, right? Just this sort of bing, bing, bing, bing.

everybody's

Matt Loehrer (35:51)
Angel gets shot by a farmer and his mom. So it actually turned.

Tug McTighe (35:54)
That's right. So

right again comes back. he's on the job now.

He's telling him,

look here, look here. What's that guy doing? What's this guy doing? They go out and they get a call for an escaped swan. And that's when they get PI Staker. And he's like, They're like, piss taker. Quit fucking with me. And then he goes, and then it's big, huge, goofy, tall Stephen Merchant. And he's like, no, it's Peter Ian Staker. it is. is piss taker.

Matt Loehrer (36:09)
Peter, Peter, Peter Ian Snicker.

Right.

Right, so

he thinks they're just having fun with him, and in fact, that's this guy's name. So he has to go and try and capture a swan and then they enter the store. So there's another walking transition. Danny is going honk honk. He's trying to do a swan impression. Danny always wants to go to the shop. So he's kind of teaching him.

Tug McTighe (36:38)
Kong Kong, stop stop.

Yeah, yeah, get the ice cream cup.

Matt Loehrer (36:47)
Yeah, so he talks about Lurch. He's like, who's that guy? Well, that's Lurch. OK, he's got dad says he has a mind of a child. OK, he lives with his mom and sister. He's a Charlie boy at the grocery store. Well, are they as big as he is? Who the mom and sister same person? So then there at the grocery store.

Tug McTighe (36:50)
Right. Right.

Same

Right. So they go to the grocery store. So,

and he's trying to make Danny a better copy saying, look, why is that guy wearing a big huge coat? Why does that guy have his, baseball cap down over his eyes? And then they're talking again to Timothy Dalton. And then they see this kid with who had the baseball cap down shoplifting. then a a big chase through the store, kids running, he's running, they go through the gardens. He goes, you're going to

Matt Loehrer (37:09)
Right.

There's always something going on, right?

That was fun.

Tug McTighe (37:26)
He goes, haven't you ever taken a shortcut? And Nicholas Angel expertly jumps over these fences. And then the last one does a flip over. And then Nick Frost just runs through two of them in a classic bit of just breakaway prop comedy. It's like when Farley always fell through the desk, the cardboard desk. But yeah.

Matt Loehrer (37:34)
Yeah.

Yeah, so I love that too. I mean he'll do physical

one of my favorite Danny lines they finally catch. the guy Pete who's running away in the purple jumpsuit. Because Angel, he's running across the field and Angel grabs a spray paint can from one of the kids again. It comes up later.

Tug McTighe (37:55)
The purple jumpsuit.

The putty,

right. And he throws the...

Matt Loehrer (38:05)
he

throws it and it hits the guy in the head. So he throws it like a hundred yards and it pops him on the head. And of course Danny knows who he is. Like, Pete. And he says, you know this man? said, he said, yeah, it's, know, Jackie's cousin's brother's sister's kid. He said, why didn't you say something? He says, I'm not made of eyes.

Tug McTighe (38:10)
really funny.

I- I- Right, I- Right.

And I couldn't see him, had his hat down, didn't he? I couldn't see his face.

Matt Loehrer (38:26)
Yeah. Yes,

because because he was fuck ugly. That was Danny's reason for why he probably had his hat down. Nicholas, Angela, Danny stop. They're on speed patrol, whatever it is.

Tug McTighe (38:32)
bright.

Yeah, they cut and

they got the radar gun.

Matt Loehrer (38:42)
Yeah, but it's funny. says, you know it's. Danny, I want to do what you do. He says you do do what I do and he says, you know, it's not just all about, you know, high speed chases and then somebody goes by, you know, speeding. He's like he's like light up the roof. He takes off, pulls him over. So who does he pull over?

Tug McTighe (38:52)
at a thousand miles an hour, Right.

the two lead actors for a local homage to William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet. And then they invite them to the show, they leave tickets for them. Nicholas says, well, we can't take gifts from people that we've officially rebuked. And then he tears them up and then Frank.

Matt Loehrer (39:06)
Excuse me.

invite them to the show.

Tug McTighe (39:23)
The inspector goes, hey, I got tickets. Why don't you guys go? So they go. And this made me really laugh.

Matt Loehrer (39:23)
It's like

Tug McTighe (39:28)
This terrible production of Romeo and Juliet devolves into Love Fool by the Cardigans. Love me, love me, say that you love me. That's so fucking good. And then what happens is they are murdered by a cloaked figure. And then we get there in the morning and it looks like an accident. Looks like they run the car off the road.

Matt Loehrer (39:36)
And the look on his face, it's like just horrified.

Tug McTighe (39:56)
They've been decaffeinated. He says decaffeinated. They wake him up in the middle of the So yeah, so really, really funny bits and then quickly turns. My favorite line in the whole movie, and you know this now because I've said it to you five times, is when Danny goes, we can't accept gifts from someone we've officially rebuked. So jog on, right? Up yours.

Matt Loehrer (39:58)
to caffeinated.

That was pretty good.

Right. Right.

Tug McTighe (40:21)
But they're all like, well, look at this tragic car accident. It's a collision. We don't call them accidents. Why do we call them accidents? Because that would indicate that there's no one to blame. So.

Matt Loehrer (40:25)
Yeah. Right.

But also in

this Danny is Danny is paying attention to what he says and. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yeah.

Tug McTighe (40:37)
Danny's starting to pay attention, that's right. And using this, right, using the proper terminology.

Nicholas says, they were clearly having an affair. And Danny says, how do know that? And he says, because we sat through three hours of so-called acting and their kiss was the only convincing moment in it, which is a really funny thing, right? So anyway, all the rest of the cops are calling it an accident. Nicholas is like, I think something.

something this is not right. I don't care for this. He also tells everybody how to do their job. What do think we should do? We should cordon off the area. again, he shows them going, yep, that sounds right.

Matt Loehrer (41:08)
That's a that's Tony Fisher saying, what would what would you do here? Detective Angel and he sells him and he's like what he said. So that's kind of a running gag too, cause that'll that'll pay off later too.

Tug McTighe (41:11)
Tony Yeah, but what he said

What he said.

that'll pay off later too.

we've got this car accident. Now they get called to this farm and we see that this farmer was cutting down the hedges, his neighbor's hedges without, getting permission. And so he goes out to talk to this old man. He's got a shotgun and he goes, I hope that shotgun's licensed. And he's like, well, this one is.

And then we find this, I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna get there. Then they have this gigantic weapon stash, including an old sea mine. But I have to pause to talk about two things. One, we have the policeman with the dog. I don't remember his name. Bob Walker, who mumbles, it has to be translated by Danny. And now the farmer's mumbling.

Matt Loehrer (41:43)
Well hang on, you're skipping the whole part. Alright, alright, alright, alright.

Hi, Bob Walker.

Tug McTighe (42:09)
So then Bob Walker talks to the farmer. They understand each other. And then Danny is translating the whole thing. So you get this funny bit of business where they're translating these mumbles. Two guys are mumbling and being translated. And you get this giant, giant stash of weapons. again, pause number two. I have to talk about the Harry Potter overse, because now this is our at least third actor in this.

that is from the Harry Potter overse. We know that Bill Nye plays Rufus Scrimgower. We know that Jim Broadbent is a big part of it, Horace Slughorn. And now we've got David Bradley, who is Argus Filch, the caretaker at Hogwarts who's the unintelligible farmer.

Matt Loehrer (42:46)
Mm-hmm.

Correct.

They're going out there and Angel says, why do we need the dog? Danny says it's not the dog we need because.

Tug McTighe (43:00)
Not the dog.

We know we got to translate this guy.

Matt Loehrer (43:03)
Right, because this this you know farmers doesn't make any you know he's unintelligible and then. The other guys. Yeah, which is so that's that's a funny bit. but yeah, he's got this huge arsenal of stuff that he said he found. Including a sea mine. Yeah, and this huge sea mine so.

Tug McTighe (43:19)
So like, yeah, like a thousand guns. And then there's a nice,

right.

Matt Loehrer (43:25)
He's

like, it's just a bunch of junk and he kicks it and it falls and starts clicking. So they consulted Roger Ebert's book of movie cliches, which exists and there are hundreds of them. And they put as many as they could in here. So it's the one where there's a bomb that's going to go off and they run through the door and jump over a hedge and then it doesn't go off.

Tug McTighe (43:29)
Tick, tick, tick.

to put them in.

That's great. I love that.

that doesn't go off.

Matt Loehrer (43:50)
So

they just get up and that's it. So now they have all these weapons. They fill their evidence room with weapons.

Tug McTighe (43:59)
That was empty. Now it's filled with weapons, including a rusty old sea mine.

Matt Loehrer (44:03)
Yeah, it's just packed.

Tug McTighe (44:04)
So They've had this day together. They're warming to each other. Angel starts to warm to Danny. He's asked him to go to the pub like five times. Finally, he goes, what are you thinking? Pub? Right? So they go to the pub. And they.

Matt Loehrer (44:10)
Yeah.

He wants to get wine.

says, what kind of wine do you have? And the guy says, we have red and white. And he says, we'll just have a pint of lager.

Tug McTighe (44:22)
Red and white. I'll

have a lager. So then they're chatting. It's really nice. And there's a great, it's my favorite quick cut is I'll have one. they're laughing and it's, you see two pints come down, you see pounds go across, you see empty pints, you see money come across, you see new pints, and you know they're tying one on here.

Matt Loehrer (44:43)
It's really an effective way to show time passing and then show what's happening. Like, it's really economical and I am impressed by that.

Tug McTighe (44:47)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I like it quite a bit.

Matt Loehrer (44:56)
so angels warm into Danny together. They're having pints at the pub.

Tug McTighe (44:56)
too.

Matt Loehrer (45:00)
they encountered this drunk George merchant, which I think it's hilarious. He's referred to many times in this as the refrigerator magnet.

Tug McTighe (45:07)
that's right, the refrigerator magnet.

Matt Loehrer (45:08)
he's loaded. He's urinating on a vending machine or something. Jim Broadbent, Danny's dad, got it. Yeah, somebody's drunk. And Nicholas Angel's like, I'm not that drunk. And he says, no, him. So they take him home. Right. So they take him home to his horrible house, which does not at all fit the rustic aesthetic of the town.

Tug McTighe (45:13)
Right.

The inspector says you need it.

I know him and he's pissing on the jukebox.

And he

says that right? it's because it's a huge McMansion in the middle of this great beautiful town.

Matt Loehrer (45:37)
They drop him off, he kind of falls on his face in his door and they're like, okay, see you later. And then they head back to Danny's. They don't wanna end the night and they decide to watch action movies, which Nicholas see none of these.

Tug McTighe (45:52)
Right, and Danny has this,

he opens up this closet and there's, it's a beaut, it's like a video store full of videos. And Nicholas says, the power of gray skull, which I thought was a little bit funny.

Matt Loehrer (46:03)
Right, which

which Danny had said when they found the arsenal. So they again repeat that.

Tug McTighe (46:08)
That's right. that's right. That's right.

they're sitting on Danny's couch or having another pint. And we get this, this is a really nice moment where they're really starting to become friends. They're talking about, you know, he says, I don't know how to switch off, right? I don't know. I can't turn it off. It cost me my last relationship. And there's a little bit, and I mentioned this to you, there's a little bit of a, like a homoerotic thing.

to the point where I'm like, well, maybe Danny's gay, but he's not. And you had mentioned that there was another part of this, like a subplot where there was a romantic love interest for Nicholas that just never panned out or never got used. So I think there's a remnant of that, which again, was a bit of a tone break at first. But then I realized it was just, and again, this is kind of a problem where it's just two dudes. It's one dude that cares about another dude in a

Matt Loehrer (46:38)
Right.

Tug McTighe (47:04)
friendship kind of way and you're like, what are they gay? And then you're like, stop being that way, tug, asshole.

Matt Loehrer (47:06)
Right.

I think it no I think it was I you can't be blamed I think it was misdirection it was supposed to be that way he he did have a love interest that they just didn't have enough lines for so they just gave her lines to Danny and it was pretty funny because I think it makes you think it's going it kind of zakes you think it's gonna say good night

Tug McTighe (47:19)
Right. It's really funny.

Yeah.

So, you get, forgot to say one thing too. Great part in the pub where we learned why Nicholas wanted to become a policeman. Sorry, police officer. So, right, he has this big backstory about his uncle, et cetera, et cetera. So,

Matt Loehrer (47:36)
right. Yeah.

Yeah, and

they show the kind of pedal car that his uncle gave him when he was a kid earlier in the show.

Tug McTighe (47:45)
Right, right.

we cut back to old, uh, George Murch in the refrigerator magnet. Um, he's in his house and the, and the cloaked figure is there who knocks them out cold and then puts bacon and beans on the stove, turns on the gas, lights a candle. It's going to make it again, make it look like an accident. And then what happens? We see the house blow up.

Matt Loehrer (48:09)
And of course, everybody thinks it's an accident. They're like, no, another terrible accident.

Tug McTighe (48:11)
Of course, no, they don't think it is. These are the

official plays. Like, heaven, it's three people dead in two days or whatever. So they frame this up as an accident again. Skinner shows up again. Skinner keeps at all these murder sites. Skinner, Timothy Dalton, keeps showing up, kind of making a joke. let's drink to their demise. You mean their memory? Right.

Matt Loehrer (48:17)
Right.

Yeah, I was daring him to. Right?

Tug McTighe (48:37)
everybody's raising the stakes, especially the two, the Andes, cause they're like, look, this was clearly an accident. He, he got drunk and left the gas on and, don't tell us how to do our jobs. And Nicholas is challenging them to go out. Your detectives go and detect.

Something right? so everybody's yelling at him. They're like, look The inspector's like hey Everybody's off nicholas. need you to cover these we need you to be security at these save the church save the church roof Festival and so he's he's miserable now. It's like the worst thing that could happen to him is this You know hick town out in the sticks festival

Matt Loehrer (49:20)
Right, not doing real cop work. So, but he has to go to this thing and hobnob with people and get up and announce the winners of the raffle and that sort of thing. There is a...

Tug McTighe (49:22)
not doing real cop work.

Right. He goes and wins.

He wins the cuddly monkey for Danny because he's a great shot. He says, I've told you, I don't like guns again. I, that didn't bother me. He's not the right word. I wish there was more of a, I wish it was more overt why he didn't like guns. Cause I didn't unlike you, I didn't pause on the hero cop. saw that a couple of times. I just wish there was one more, one more line of dialogue about it.

Matt Loehrer (49:35)
He did win the Kodlima.

Yeah.

Tug McTighe (49:58)
Again, just a little beef, but he's at this festival and like you said, Tim messenger, the editor of the local rag that everybody hates who also spelled his name as not angel, but angle. He's a terrible speller. There's a bunch of misspellings throughout the movie. He says, Hey, I've got information I got to talk to you about these accidents. Meet me over.

Matt Loehrer (50:06)
Yeah, good name.

about George Merchant,

Tug McTighe (50:22)
Meet me about George's accident. Meet me over here at 3 o'clock.

Matt Loehrer (50:26)
So three o'clock comes and we hear that the church bell Angel realizes he needs to get to him, runs around the corner. And meanwhile, the cloaked figure has gone to the top of the roof, which is in a state of disrepair, we know, and pushed off the corner of one of these large.

Tug McTighe (50:28)
He's doing

Church Roof.

Like

this crenellation he pushes off and right as Nick turns the corner, just explodes the guy's head off.

Matt Loehrer (50:48)
Yeah. And it.

It just...

Yeah, and his body still standing up with this giant piece of cement coming out of it. then everybody comes, everybody runs around the corner and the inspector says there's been a terrible accident. Right, you know, Angel's like, no, this is absolutely not an accident. He says, do you think this is a crime scene? And he says, yes, I do. And he says, OK.

Tug McTighe (51:00)
Right. Right.

Right, another terrible accident.

Matt Loehrer (51:22)
And then he spray, know, inspector butterman's springs into action and he tells.

Tug McTighe (51:26)
He makes everybody come

out, makes all the police officers go to work and they were off. You do this, you do this, you, they're all pissed, right? Everybody's pissed at Nicholas. They're mad at Danny for buying into his shit, right? He then gets it right. He gets in a big fight with Danny. he's at his worst. He's at his lowest now. This is, I would say this is the mid point where He's lost a friend he was making and all these murders are happening and nobody.

Matt Loehrer (51:30)
They're all just curious.

Yeah, it's raining and they're standing in the rain, so they hate that.

Nobody

believes him.

Tug McTighe (51:52)
Nobody believes him.

Nicholas does is what he always does is he dives deeper. So he goes into the library and he looks up all this microfiche and all these old newspaper articles that Tim Messenger was writing and get to learn that there's a potential bypass, which he spells as B-I pass, like a highway bypass instead of B-Y pass.

Matt Loehrer (52:12)
I

didn't notice that.

Tug McTighe (52:16)
He gets this connection and it says merchant gonna build a shopping center, needs the land. There's all this. Now there's motive. He's creating motive. he needs the land. He needs some of these people to sell so he can create the thing, et cetera, et cetera. And then he kind of makes up with Danny, tells them all this and they really start working on the case.

Matt Loehrer (52:27)
Yeah, really logical motive.

Okay, so it's Danny's birthday and they were working so hard on cop stuff he didn't realize it. Danny didn't say it because. So he takes off, Angel takes off to buy Danny a Japanese piece lily as a birthday present. So he goes to the village florist Leslie Tiller. And she's selling her business and gives him the whole story about why that's happened.

Tug McTighe (52:45)
And he didn't, Danny didn't tell him.

Right. she,

you're right. She gives him all the information about, Tim messenger told me that I was going to sell this to merchant. He told me my land is worth 10 times what I was offering. So I thought maybe I'd blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And of course he goes out to get his notebook, which is the police officer's most important tool. And he turns around and the cloaked figure has stabbed her with her own garden shears in the throat.

Matt Loehrer (53:26)
Right.

Tug McTighe (53:27)
right? And again, now we've delved into horror with these murders because they're all really bloody now. Even splattering on the camera. Yeah, splattering on the camera.

Matt Loehrer (53:33)
Yeah, they did that on purpose. That was intentional. They believe people would,

yeah. There are a lot of gory scenes in this that was intentional for people.

Tug McTighe (53:44)
Yeah. So, please also note first step in Nicholas lightening up is when he finds that it's Danny's birthday, he wants to have peace Lily. He takes the cop car, turns on the siren and speeds over to get it. So that's sort of step one. He calls it a personal errand and that is sort of step one to him switching off and learning to, you know,

learning to relax a little bit. Because he never would have done that before.

Matt Loehrer (54:15)
I don't think character change and character progression has to be a huge thing. It really depends on the character. if we ever watch Dread, there's very small character development, but it's huge in light of what that character is like. anyway, yeah, it's different for every character. So I think that's a great point. mean, he's obviously...

Tug McTighe (54:20)
No, agreed.

in light of what that character, how that character, where the character started.

Matt Loehrer (54:38)
changing, growing, developing, which you want to see.

Tug McTighe (54:40)
Right, so

Leslie's been murdered. Right they burst through the glass, Nicholas chases him. Now again, Nicholas has the record for the 100 yard dash, but he keeps getting outpaced by these people. They keep running away from him, but they are diving through windows and jumping off of buildings and things like that.

Matt Loehrer (54:44)
In front of him, yeah.

He's really fast.

But like he'll turn

a corner and suddenly this character's like 50 yards ahead of where he should. Yeah, he's like how the hell this.

Tug McTighe (55:06)
50 yards away, right? So, so

Nicholas comes back, tells the cops, here's what happened. He wanted to build the thing. Who was mad at him was Simon Skinner. He's the one that had him murdered. He is the guy. He didn't want merchant to overtake his grocery store in the shopping center, et cetera, et cetera. which I thought was a great thing, which by the way, all of it made perfect sense.

Matt Loehrer (55:20)
Right.

no, it made a lot of sense. then I love where he's saying, you know, so, so you're saying Eve Draper was murdered. Yes. And this person. Yes. And this person. Yeah. And what about Martin Blower? No, actually. Really? Of course he fucking was.

Tug McTighe (55:41)
Yes. Yes.

No, of course he was fucking murdered. What about Leslie

Tiller? I know she was murdered because I fucking saw it. So then they go to arrest Skinner at his office and he's giving him all the classic, this is what happened and you did this. And he goes, well, how could I be in two places at once? I've been in the store all night. He's completely nonplussed. And he goes, well, let me tell you, we both had to, during my chase with the cl—

Matt Loehrer (55:52)
Right.

Skinner.

Tug McTighe (56:12)
with a cloaked killer, we broke some glass. So here are your wounds." And he pulls up his pant leg, and he has the bracers on, by the way, garters. And there's no wounds, and there's no wounds, and there's no wounds. So he then says, hey, feel free to look at my security footage. I've been at the store all night. And sure, he was in the store.

Matt Loehrer (56:18)
I'm

Yeah.

Yeah, there were so many funny lines in that where he says Leslie Tiller, his cousin, so that was his cousin, Sissy Skinner's cousin was Leslie. Leslie Tiller died, how did it happen? Tony Fisher says she fell on her own shears and he, Angel picks up a pen and throws it at him.

Tug McTighe (56:37)
Yeah. yeah.

That's right, that's right.

Right, you're right. Throws it and stop.

And then Mr. Skinner says something about this and that and the land. I don't need the land. And then he goes, then Nicholas goes, look, Skinner, what you do with your land is no concern of mine. So, gone. Second moment where he's learning to be more like Danny, which I adored. Yeah.

Matt Loehrer (57:06)
That was great.

Yeah, that was really good.

That was also speaking of Danny, there was a funny scene where Skinner says, Detective Angel, I think you've been watching too many movies. And Danny says, no, he hasn't.

Tug McTighe (57:22)
Actually, hasn't. Yeah, he hasn't.

Angel then comes to realize or suspect that there are multiple killers. And he goes to tell the inspector, Frank, look, think it could easily be multiple killers. They could be working together over this whole thing. And he goes, you've got, look, the last guy that was here, again, this comes back, just lost his shit.

Because nothing really goes on you're used to all this danger being everywhere. Why don't you just take why don't you Yeah, totally gaslighting. Why don't you just take the night sleep on it. And if you come back tomorrow and you can take me through it.

Matt Loehrer (57:44)
So good night.

gaslighting.

Mm-hmm.

Tug McTighe (57:59)
So this is the end of Act 2.

Matt Loehrer (57:59)
Yeah.

Right. One more thing. That scene where he encounters Skinner, there's a moment where Skinner gets up and he's got an employee of the month photo of himself behind him and he makes the exact... So that's the kind of thing I'm talking about that Edgar Wright will do, will create a visual, like a treat. You know what I mean? Like if you're paying attention, if you're watching, I made this for you. Yeah, it's identical. I thought that was...

Tug McTighe (58:11)
Yes, yep, behind him. Yep.

And it's exactly the same photo. It's literally the same angle. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So OK. He's been gaslit, like you said. He doesn't think he's right. He's gets back to his. He's at his low point. gets back to his hotel room. And he is attacked by Michael Lurch Armstrong, the huge guy, trolley boy, in the cloak. So now we know.

Matt Loehrer (58:28)
I loved it. I thought that was so great.

is at the low point.

Right.

Tug McTighe (58:51)
This is real for sure. We know there's a bad guy. The stakes are raised. He's an employee of Skinner. He fights him and he's huge. he, remember he said he's got the mind of a child. And so he holds up the monkey, Cuddly Monkey, and he goes, And he looks at it, he grabs it, and then he breaks the Japanese peace lily on his head.

Matt Loehrer (59:01)
this.

Mind of a child.

The cuddly monkey. He distracts them with the cuddly monkey.

Tug McTighe (59:18)
But he says, playtime's over. He gets his catchphrase. Danny shows up. Stay here. Guard him. He attacked me. He goes, I'm going to bust this thing wide open.

Matt Loehrer (59:20)
Right.

Tug McTighe (59:30)
So he's becoming more like the action films, right? So he learns what's going on because Lurch has one of the walkie talkies and what's his name?

Matt Loehrer (59:35)
Absolutely.

Yeah, so Skinner contacts, Skinner contacts Lurch and says, you know, did you get that? Did you get him and Angel goes? Yeah, he is. He's like, alright, you're to come back to the castle. Yarp. He's not going to get up again, is he? Yarp. Good. Alright, so he knows where to go and Danny shows up and he says, call your dad. I'm heading to the castle. I'm going to bust this thing right over.

Tug McTighe (59:51)
And it's Nicholas. Yarp. Right.

Narp? Okay, good. All right. He's like, whoo. Yeah.

That's right. He's like, look,

we're racing towards conclusion here, right? So he runs out to the castle. The NWA, not the group, but the Neighborhood Watch Association, led by Frank, they're all wearing the robes, the black robes. They're in their round table doing their fraternity thing. Nicholas shows up, not on my watch, right?

Matt Loehrer (1:00:16)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, very cult-like outdoors.

Tug McTighe (1:00:37)
And then they just all tell him, we committed the murders. We staged them as accidents because each one of these victims threatened Stanford's chances of winning Village of the Year.

Matt Loehrer (1:00:42)
Right.

Right, it had nothing to do with his, like he had a really logical motive for all this happening. No, it was because Martin Blower was a terrible actor and Eve Draper had a terrible laugh.

Tug McTighe (1:00:56)
No, right.

Right, he was a terrible actor. He was cheating on his wife, right? She had a terrible laugh.

It's just they don't like these people, so they've got to get rid of them. And then they're like, George Merchant.

Matt Loehrer (1:01:08)
Yeah, George Merchant. George Merchant's house

didn't fit the rustic aesthetic.

Tug McTighe (1:01:14)
The same exact thing that he said, right? So again, this is just they want to win that Village of the Year plaque.

Matt Loehrer (1:01:22)
That's all it is. Hey, one note. When it's announced that Janet Barker has had twins and she's decided to call her boys Roger and Martin, those are the names of Merton Riggs and Lethal.

Tug McTighe (1:01:33)
very good. Thank you very much.

Matt Loehrer (1:01:35)
Yeah, so that was like so

it's funny they do minutes before the meeting of their colony.

Tug McTighe (1:01:41)
before the meeting of their murder meeting, right. So Frank shows up and Danny shows up and he's like, all right, we've got to these people. And Frank's like, no, we're not going to because you're the problem, they're not the problem. He's like, but it's murder. So we learn that Frank's wife, Irene, who Danny told us was killed in a car collision.

Matt Loehrer (1:01:43)
Their murder meeting, yeah, which is.

Mm-hmm.

Tug McTighe (1:02:07)
She put everything in a hit helping Sanford to win the first ever Village of the Year. But travelers, drifters, gypsies, they call them sometimes. And then they really all hate jugglers. They talk about crusty jugglers quite a bit. They moved in the night before and ruined their chances when the adjudicators arrived. And this actually drove her to kill herself. So, so yeah, so Frank's wife and,

Matt Loehrer (1:02:20)
You can crusty chug

Tug McTighe (1:02:35)
Danny's mom. So Frank then, since he vowed, we're going to win it every year, whatever the cost, Angel flees, stumbles into the castle's catacombs, discovering the corpses of everybody that Nicholas arrested, including the underage kids and the shoplifter and the living statue. Right. Right. So everybody's down there.

Matt Loehrer (1:02:44)
Mm-hmm.

and the living statue. Everybody's down there. They're just, the guy,

the gibberish speaking guy from the farm.

Tug McTighe (1:03:02)
Yeah, the farmer, yeah, everyone is, anybody that they're like, just gotta get these guys out of the way. So, so he escapes with the help of Danny who stabs him and then puts him in the car and they says, you gotta get rid of him. So he's gonna go get rid of him. But please note that Danny earlier pretended to stab himself in the eye with a fork and put the, it was a ketchup packet with blood.

Matt Loehrer (1:03:08)
Yeah, all that.

and a ketchup packet.

Tug McTighe (1:03:27)
So

that's what we know that Danny has done. takes them out of town to the city limits and says, look, you've got to leave. There's no way for you to be here. They want you dead. And you're my friend. And he takes them out to the edge of town. And Nicholas decides he's going to leave.

Matt Loehrer (1:03:44)
Forget it, Angel, it's Sanford. He basically does the Chinatown.

Tug McTighe (1:03:48)
So Nicholas is on the road. He has to stop to get petrol. You're welcome for the British announcement because he's 127 kilometers from London. If you thought those were miles, they were not. Those were KMs. And he's about to leave, but he has a change of heart because he sees a rack of action movie DVDs and right in the middle, Point Break and Bad Boys 2.

Matt Loehrer (1:04:11)
Right. Point break. Yep.

Tug McTighe (1:04:17)
He puts more money down, grabs some sunglasses and turns around and heads back to Sanford.

Matt Loehrer (1:04:24)
Right. He heads back to the police station. He's on his way back in and he encounters the farmer. He crashes his car, punches him out. And then the farmer, so is his mom, I think. So yeah, so it's farmers and farmers mom. he, Angel gets out and knocks her out, heads back to the police station and nobody notices that he comes and goes. But he

Tug McTighe (1:04:32)
Right, and his wife.

Farmer's Mom, that's right!

No, they're

so bad, right? He loads up. He loads up from that gun room.

Matt Loehrer (1:04:48)
Yeah, they're clowning around.

Tug McTighe (1:04:55)
like a crazy like like it's a great suit up. We get an Edgar Wright suit up like Batman right putting the gun and loading the gun strapping them on flip you know doing the tricks all that stuff and then he is he is loaded to bear no pun intended.

Matt Loehrer (1:05:08)
Yeah, and that's when we actually get a reveal of the twin sergeants that it's twin brothers, though they're played by the same actor. But yeah, the ones one's disheveled and goofy and the other ones kind of put together. So that's kind of a payoff for that. So now he's on a he's on the mounted division. So he's I don't know where he got a horse, but he's on one. OK, he took his horse. OK. And he had bought right. He had a duffel bag.

Tug McTighe (1:05:13)
Two people, right.

Right, right.

He got it from the farmer. There was a horse out there. That's right. Because he crashed his car.

Matt Loehrer (1:05:35)
full of spray paint that he bought at the convenience store. So now we pull the hoodies back in.

Tug McTighe (1:05:39)
That's exactly right.

he bought spray paint cans at the convenience store, and as he's riding into town, literally on his horse, he sees the hoodies who are doing graffiti, he gives them all spray paint cans and goes,

You want to do something useful, want to do something meaningful. And so he's enlisted them in this fight. So then what happens was, I've got to be honest with you, I was quite surprised. There's a catastrophic shootout in the town. Earlier they said, everybody out here has guns. Sure enough, everybody does have guns. They're all like hidden, looks like a baby stroller and they pulled up and there's guns in the foam there.

Matt Loehrer (1:06:13)
Mm-hmm.

Tug McTighe (1:06:20)
So there's all these people we've gotten to know, all these very sweet villagers are all, they're all shooting it up. And this next huge shootout sequence, I really love this part because I have always in these movies, I'm like, they are destroying everything, everything is getting broken and they're fucking up there. But, but I love that they just dove into that trope.

Matt Loehrer (1:06:39)
in hitting nothing.

Tug McTighe (1:06:46)
And they're like, yeah, everybody's got a gun. Everybody's shooting. Nobody gets killed. Everybody gets shot in the arm or the leg. Callback. Danny accidentally shot the doctor in the foot at the shooting game at the festival. He shoots him in the foot accidentally again so they can get away. So there's that. But yeah, again, like I said, this is really fun parody of action films just shredding whatever the location is, right?

Matt Loehrer (1:06:51)
Nobody can hit it. Yeah, nobody can hit anybody.

It did.

It was.

And Angel's kind of on his own and then Danny's on patrol in his car and sees a woman coming on a riding a bike shooting guns and open opens the door so she goes flying and then at that point he's on Angel's team. Right. So yeah, they take out pretty much the whole NWA and that was great. I mean, there were and again, it was intentionally really bloody. Like there's a scene where Joyce

Tug McTighe (1:07:20)
shooting like this.

Right. And then he's in the fight. It's good to have you back. And he's like, good to have you back partner. Right.

That's right.

Matt Loehrer (1:07:40)
He shoots a flower pot over her head, shoots the chain that's holding it up there and it hits her on the head and she slams her melon on a car hood, but it's really bloody. And they did that on purpose, but it made it work. So basically the next encounter is them, Danny and Angel versus his dad and all the other cops at the pub.

Tug McTighe (1:07:51)
Yeah

Yeah.

Right. So Frank tells them you've got to arrest these two. They've lost their mind. and Angel Nick Nicholas convinces them, Hey, Frank's done this. This is him. He's made you all bad cops. He's, he's, you know, worried about this, you know, village of the year thing. He's not what's really going on. And they're all like, all right, sir. It's time. Like they, he, he wins them over. When's all the, all the policemen over. Got to give it up. Right.

Matt Loehrer (1:08:26)
You gotta give it up, yeah.

Tug McTighe (1:08:30)
So Frank flees, goes to the, a lot of shit happens at this supermarket. So they all drive over, they all go over to the supermarket.

Matt Loehrer (1:08:34)
Yes.

Tug McTighe (1:08:41)
The first thing that's great is when Nicholas says, don't know, what should we do? And what's his name? OK, so one of my favorite things that starts the scene off is when Nicholas, they're all behind the trolleys looking in and the bad guys are in the store, Nicholas goes, what should we do? And Tony Fisher goes, all right, we got the element of surprise on us. We should go quick before they've set up this and that and the third thing. You guys take this. You guys go to the front. And then Nicholas goes.

Matt Loehrer (1:08:48)
Tony Fisher, yeah.

Tug McTighe (1:09:11)
what he said, because that's what he said the whole time. He's made them better police officers, right? So then a lot happens in the next five minutes. The cops get better. They're really good. There's these two butchers throwing knives all over the place at everybody. There's Nicholas going to fight Lurch again, and he does all this broom, and then he ends up knocking him out and getting him in this...

Matt Loehrer (1:09:12)
Yeah, it just turned it. Yeah, it was great.

Right.

Right?

Tug McTighe (1:09:39)
Cooler of seafood and then he rejoins Danny and they're behind the barricade and Danny goes You all right? He goes. Yeah, I took care of lurch and he goes I I knocked him out and he fell into this big big cooler vice he goes did you say something like it's time to chill out or Cool off and he goes no and he goes mmm too bad

Matt Loehrer (1:09:50)
Cooler, yeah.

It was...

But then he told them that he did earlier say that it was playtime.

Tug McTighe (1:10:03)
Yeah, it's,

and he goes, oh yeah, so Danny's all happy. We also get the Skinner's secretary assistant, who's also a stripper, Tina, she comes to fight and then Doris knocks her out and Doris goes, nothing like a little bit of girl on girl, eh? So again, everybody's, then maybe my favorite part of this third act is cut to,

Matt Loehrer (1:10:14)
Tina. Tina, yeah.

It was funny.

Mm-hmm.

Tug McTighe (1:10:33)
the three adjudicators with their clipboards and it says Sanford Village of the Year and that like in Jurassic Park, the sign just falls behind them because it's everything's just exploded.

Matt Loehrer (1:10:36)
Rain.

I think

there were two women and a man and I think the two women were Nick Frost and Simon Pegg's mothers. so I don't think they're going to win this year.

Tug McTighe (1:10:49)
there you go.

No, So Skinner escapes in a police car with Frank. Then we get to high speed chase. Angel and Nicholas and Danny are in the car, high speed chase. As Skinner and Frank are driving, they go, swan! It's the same swan that's escaped. And they veer off into the field. And then Nicholas and Danny go, swan! And they...

Matt Loehrer (1:11:08)
Right?

Tug McTighe (1:11:14)
They open the door and pull the swan in. I'm like, yes, finally captured the swan two hours later. Right.

Matt Loehrer (1:11:19)
Right, taking care of business.

So then we're at the miniature village.

Tug McTighe (1:11:24)
The miniature Sanford, yeah.

Matt Loehrer (1:11:26)
Yeah. And we get Skinner and Angel fighting, mano y mano, which Simon Pegg said how cool it was to in a fight with James Bond, which I get.

Tug McTighe (1:11:37)
with James Bond, right, of course.

So they're fighting, again, shredding up the model village just like they shredded up the town.

Matt Loehrer (1:11:44)
Right

and you get a get a Skinner saying, you know, get out of my village and he seems to have the upper hand and Angel says it's not your village anymore. He knocks him out and there's. Skinner takes a kid hostage. And the kid bites him and gets away and Angel says nice job son. What's your name? And he says Aaron A. Aronson. He's like what? So that goes back to.

Tug McTighe (1:12:07)
Right. And that's what the

Andes wanted them to look in the phone book. What are we going to do? Start with Aaron A. Aronson?

Matt Loehrer (1:12:15)
Right, but it was just like a throwaway line from an hour and a half ago, right? I love that. then Skinner comes after him and it's such a realistic miniature village, complete with really pointy cornices on the church that there's a grocery store car that they've made for it that have

Tug McTighe (1:12:17)
I know. I know.

The church, the new church roof. Yeah.

His own store!

Matt Loehrer (1:12:38)
his own store that he's that he steps on and slips on and flies through the air and in a typically reliably incredibly gory way jabs up through his the bottom of his mouth and and through his mouth so now he's impaled

Tug McTighe (1:12:42)
And... Right.

Mouth. Right.

Now, but the great news is

he doesn't die. He goes, this really hurts. It's really, it's really hurting. So, we think he's won, but he, know, Nicholas turns around and Frank has his own son, Danny at gunpoint. And, and Nicholas says, you've lost one film. Remember don't lose another.

Matt Loehrer (1:12:59)
I'm gonna need some ice cream after.

Tug McTighe (1:13:21)
So he pushes Danny away and he turns and he runs away to get in the car and Danny falls down on the ground and just like in point break with Keanu Reeves and Bodhi, he's got the gun trained on him, but he shoots up into the air. So Frank, of course, is about to escape in Angel's car, but who is in the car? The swan attacks him and he wrecks.

Matt Loehrer (1:13:33)
So, Yeah.

This tiny car. There's swans in the car.

Tug McTighe (1:13:47)
And then you see a great wide shot of him going through a field and just crashing into a tree.

Matt Loehrer (1:13:51)
He does. what's so this is funny too. Earlier in the film, the Andes mentioned one of them mentioned that a swan can break a man's arm. The next time we see a butterman, he's in a sling. So the swan did the swan broke his arm, So now, of course, you've got Martin Freeman and Bill Nye and Steve Coogan.

Tug McTighe (1:14:01)
He has the... Yeah. Yeah, he has the broken arm. Right.

Well, right now,

the helicopter touches down.

Matt Loehrer (1:14:15)
yeah, so you get a, you get a, like a bad, bad boys too kind of thing.

Tug McTighe (1:14:16)
Right. Right. Right

now, a helicopter touches down, and it's Coogan, Bill Nye, and Freeman. And they're like, we really need to come back to London. We stink. Our numbers are terrible without you. We're literally awful. Crime rates risen. And he goes, well, how'd you know? And he goes, why'd you come? And he goes, well, we've been trying to call you for days. And there's been like four instances where he's like, I'll call him back.

Matt Loehrer (1:14:30)
Right.

Tug McTighe (1:14:44)
Somebody tells them, hey, Nicholas, there's a call for you. So they have been trying to get a hold of him.

Matt Loehrer (1:14:48)
love that Martin Freeman says, well, with you gone, the numbers have gone a bit squiffy, which I feel is like just a very British thing to say.

Tug McTighe (1:14:56)
So

of course, much like any movie like Cars or Doc, Doc Hollywood, which by the way, the same same movie, he decides to stay in Sanford. says, boy, there sure is a lot of paperwork to be done. Right. So.

Matt Loehrer (1:15:02)
Doc Hollywood. It's the same movie.

But again,

you know what he says? He says, I kind of like it here. And he's that's what he said to them when they wanted to send him away. So Edgar Wright isn't being lazy in this movie. He's being very deliberate about his dialogue and callbacks. And. I just think that's a really great thing about the way he puts these movies together. Right. Right.

Tug McTighe (1:15:22)
No!

Yeah, again, nothing is out of place. Nothing happens by accident. Nothing happens

by accident. So they're reviewing the pay. All of them are friends now. They're laughing. They're doing all the paperwork. They're bus, you know, they're booking everybody. Everybody's alive. Nobody's dead. He still has the church steeple in his mouth.

Matt Loehrer (1:15:46)
Yeah, I love that everybody nobody nobody died in that horrendous shootout. They're all still fine.

Tug McTighe (1:15:50)
Right.

And that he's making jokes. He makes a joke joke with Doris. I bet you could could use a little you wouldn't mind a little manpower. And they're sort of showing how this new Stanford police force is going to be. Sorry, police service, not a police force.

Matt Loehrer (1:16:00)
Or manpower, yeah.

And he gets hit in the,

no, they do the waist basket where they hit him, they kick it and hit him in the head with it. What they did to Danny in the beginning.

Tug McTighe (1:16:15)
right, yeah, yeah. That's taunt.

They did it to Danny in the beginning, right? So there's Tom Weaver, the last remaining NWA member comes out with a gun and he shoots an angel, but Danny takes the bullet, And then that's when he kicks him with the trash can. And then he's in the room and the only thing left in the room is the C mine, which goes, and he goes, oh no. So boom, everything blows up.

Matt Loehrer (1:16:32)
He does.

Right?

Tug McTighe (1:16:45)
destroying, killing him, destroying the station. And we see a crying Nicholas Angel over Danny's body going, no, just hold on, you're gonna be all right, you're gonna be all right. Cut to title card one year later.

Matt Loehrer (1:16:59)
Yeah, in a funeral scene, right? Or at a graveyard, Right. And we think that's Danny. But of course, it's not Danny. It's his mother.

Tug McTighe (1:17:02)
a grave site, right? Yes, we do. But it is not. It's Irene's,

his mom's, they put flowers down. And then they get a call that there's a crime. Turn on the lights, hit them, cuckoo that's popping the clutch. And the music bangs and we cut to credits.

Matt Loehrer (1:17:23)
Yeah, hit the music and then that's the end of the show.

Tug McTighe (1:17:27)
And I just, I just really like what both they, what they did with both the characters. I really like all the characters really.

Matt Loehrer (1:17:33)
I

agree. That's one of my favorite things about the way Edgar Wright uses actors is that he really pushes them to be different. And maybe it's the way he writes them. I'm not sure, but

Tug McTighe (1:17:46)
And it's, and again, I was just,

no, no, I think, yeah, I think like nothing happens by accident. Like he's at the end of every scene that these guys are writing, this has to advance the story the right way. And we're gonna call back to it. We're gonna call back to it. Or why would we say it? It just gets in the way if we don't call back to it.

Matt Loehrer (1:17:53)
I mean,

Exactly.

But a lot of, as you know, having seen a lot of movies, lot of directors and writers will do that. They'll just throw crap in there and not really worry about how it shakes out. If you watch...

Tug McTighe (1:18:13)
No, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Matt Loehrer (1:18:20)
this Coronetto trilogy, as they call it, know, Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz and World's End. You see actors that are really moved around in different ways to to be different. Yeah, I think he really puts pressure on them to to be better and to try new things. No, Nick Frost was kind of a ghoul in the first one. He was the boorish idiot.

Tug McTighe (1:18:32)
playing different kinds of people. Yeah.

Nick Frost, yeah, he doesn't play the same person in three movies.

Right.

Right.

Matt Loehrer (1:18:47)
The second

one, he's the lovable clown, but sweet, right? He wasn't that in Shaun of the Dead. He wasn't sweet at all. was unapologetically boorish. Yeah. And if you watch World's End, he was a guy with a lot of angst and a lot of frustration and had been hurt by his friend. And it's just, I think he is a really good actor. I think Simon Pegg is too. think they both are.

Tug McTighe (1:18:52)
Yep. No, no. He was in a sort of an annoying roommate. Yeah.

Yep. Yep.

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Matt Loehrer (1:19:55)
That seems presumptuous. Here's a lot of stuff I do. Be surprised.

Tug McTighe (1:19:58)
Hey, it's all negotiable, Matt. All right, so ask me the question that I can't believe it took us six episodes to write.

Matt Loehrer (1:20:00)
Yeah, it's all negotiable.

So, Tug, was this a sin a hit or a sin a miss?

Tug McTighe (1:20:13)
I think you can tell it's a Cine hit for sure. I think it's fantastic. think it's charming, funny, heartfelt, loving, empathetic. It's just a lot of stuff. And again, great performances and great writing and great editing and great filmmaking. Really. I would say, how about that? Great film.

Matt Loehrer (1:20:15)
Yeah

Super tight, yeah.

Yeah, really good filmmaking and. So I I like to try and keep it clean, because I know my mom listens. I don't know that she would love this movie because I don't know that she'd love this kind of movie. I it's.

Tug McTighe (1:20:44)
No, it's bloody

and it's violent and it's she may not, you know,

Matt Loehrer (1:20:47)
It's something

that a Gen X boy like me who's 52 would like.

Tug McTighe (1:20:53)
Right.

judge a lot of this. got 20 and 23 year olds walking around my house and Nick walked through and watched 10 minutes of it and then he walked back and he was, he'd sat down on the stairs and so, know, it was grabbing his attention too.

Matt Loehrer (1:20:59)
Right.

Tug McTighe (1:21:10)
All right, Matt. Matt, so what are we going to do next? What are we doing next?

Matt Loehrer (1:21:09)
All right, so yes, we

are going to watch the Taika Wahtiti movie Jojo Rabbit, which I

Tug McTighe (1:21:21)
I love JoJo

Rabbit and you have not seen JoJo Rabbit.

Matt Loehrer (1:21:24)
Nope, I can't wait to see it.

Tug McTighe (1:21:26)
Yeah, so Jojo Revit, the Taika Waititi taking the piss out of the Nazis and Hitler in a World War II set film. I'll be interested to see what think. Taika Waititi, funny, talented, sometimes goes a little over the top.

Matt Loehrer (1:21:39)
I'm excited.

Well, we'll find out. All right. Well, yeah, I've been Matt.

Tug McTighe (1:21:45)
All right, that's us fun.

I have been Tug.

Matt Loehrer (1:21:50)
and we'll see you next time.

Tug McTighe (1:21:53)
That's awesome.