Rocky Boy Health Center Prevention Department Speech Language Pathology Events

This Podcast hosts Martha Hardwick, Speech Language Pathologist, and Angelica Ochoa, Prevention Department Intern, on the topic of Speech Language Disorders. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:01

Welcome to the voices of our community, where tradition meets healing and stories become strength. This is the Prevention Department podcast with Rocky Boy Health Center, coming to you from the heart of our tribal community. Here we honor where we come from while building a healthier path forward. Through conversation, culture, and connection, we share knowledge that empowers our people, mind, body, and spirit. From youth voices to elder wisdom, from recovery journeys to prevention strategies, this space is dedicated to uplifting one another and protecting the well-being of future generations. Join us as we talk about real issues, celebrate resilience, and carry forward the teachings that keep our community strong. Because prevention starts with awareness, grows through connection, and lives in each of us. This is more than a podcast, it's a circle, and you are welcome here. Hello to all of our listeners in the community and in the area and in the region. This is Mike Jibo with the Rocky Boy Health Center Prevention Department Podcast Series. And today we have two guests. We have Martha Hardwick, the speech language pathologist, and Angelica Ochoa. The intern. Why don't you introduce yourselves?

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Hello, my name is Angelica Ochoa, and I've been here for a couple of years with the Prevention Department program. And I just would like to be a part of this and thank you for tuning in.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Awesome. Nice to meet you, Angelica. My name is Martha Hardwick. I'm a speech language pathologist. And most of my education was from the University of New Mexico, my bachelor's degree, and both my master's degrees. And then I have a PhD from Johns Hopkins. And I worked for years with the Indian Children's Program, uh Department of Pediatrics at the medical school at UNM. And we worked with the 29 Desert Tribes of the Desert Southwest. It was really fun. It was, it's that's why this job intrigued me so much. And I worked in Ireland and I worked at Stanford Medical Center. So it's been all over. It's been quite a career. But this is the highlight of my. I've enjoyed being here. I enjoy the children. I enjoy the adults. I learn a I've been learning a lot about the culture. I can't wait till the powwow. I'm so excited in spring.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

It's powwow season right now. I think the powwow is coming up in Missoula this week in Kiao Powow.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

Wow, I think that would be fun.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

That's a cool powwow. Is it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Oh wow. Yesterday I saw um a gray hawk by my house. And it's nice to see that the hawks are coming back. I'm a big bird lover and plants and things. And it's been just such a pleasure looking at this. And I saw a kesserel last year in my backyard. I mean, I'd never seen one before. And they're so beautiful. They're the little hawks that that are coming. Kessels?

SPEAKER_03 3:06

Yes. I see um woodpeckers in our in my area.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

I was by your area. Were you thinking about me yesterday? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

I was thinking about a coming up podcast today. So yeah. Yeah. I think it's really good to hear the birds singing and uh it's springtime and it's warming up. I think it's supposed to be a little cooler this week, but it's still warm compared to you know a month ago.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

50 below zero. Well, we I haven't experienced that yet. That's coming.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

I could still be this year.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Oh, don't hex it.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Well, anyway, I'm glad to hear both of you. And um, it's exciting to talk about new services because I still see uh SLP services, speech language pathologist services as new, somewhat new for our community. And um prior to you coming, I just didn't see it and um or wasn't aware of it, but I'm pretty sure everything is new.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

It's pretty new. We there are speech pathologists in the schools and at Head Start. So as a speech pathologist hired by the clinic, I can't supplant. But if you bring your children over, um I can see them during the summer. And if you um they'll just need a small evaluation, I'll get the IEP and follow through. And I have some great little things for these children to do in the summer.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

So yeah, that makes sense to um, you know, when school is out, they can continue services and continue interventions that help.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

Right. It it really does help. I've seen a lot of progress with my children that I work with and and my adults. So Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

All right, awesome. So today is uh 26. I mean, no, where am I at? The 15th?

SPEAKER_00 4:52

It's coming up on Income Tax Day.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

Yeah, oh yeah. If you didn't file your taxes, it's uh you're gonna have to file an extension. Yeah. Today, uh actually this week is uh Chief Rocky Boy celebrating uh the acknowledging Chief Rocky Boy. Um I I think it's not his birthday, but maybe the day he passed. Uh uh that's what I was I heard, and I'm not sure if that's true, but it would be hard to identify his birthday when he was, you know, I don't know, probably born in the 1900s. Yeah. So there's a um smudge the res event coming up tomorrow. They're gonna start at the agency and they're gonna take busloads of kids throughout the area, and they're gonna end up at the Mio Center for for uh some cake and juice and to eat some stuff. So it's exciting. We're gonna have elders and um they're gonna be smudging all over all the whole place the whole time.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

I think that's incredible. I'm so excited about that. I uh uh Mary Duberry took me on a tour yesterday to the a magical place here. It's called Park. Where are you live?

SPEAKER_03 6:00

Or Park Canyon School? Parker School Canyon. Parker Canyon. Those are two different places, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

Yeah, and we went by some trees that had uh headbands in them.

SPEAKER_03 6:11

Could you uh prayer cloth, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

Yeah, could you explain that to me, please?

SPEAKER_03 6:16

Yeah, so so we um we take those into the ceremonies and uh they talk about the prayers and and then um at the end of the ceremony they um we'll take them out and put them in the trees. Yeah, I think yeah, and then that's that's how that's the process.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Can you take pictures of that or no?

SPEAKER_03 6:36

Uh you can. Those are pretty much like any time you see those, those are prayers that went on. And um people you could see them throughout the community and in the up in the mountains and wherever there's you know, trees, quakey trees typically. And so yeah, there's those are um you know the prayers that took place. For example, at the sweat, you know, we use um they're called weaponos, they're uh the like our flags, and they um, you know, they use you know certain colors and um yeah, they uh all those I think I saw red and blue. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Yeah, and then we saw Rocky Rocky Boy's grave.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

Oh, Chief Rocky Boy's grave up at the cabin. Yeah, yeah, a little cabin.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

I was so excited to see that. And I was driving, so I couldn't take pictures, but I was ready.

SPEAKER_03 7:23

Yeah, that's a um historical place. Um, you know, Chief Rocky Boy, and then uh I think Chief Littleberry was uh buried up at the agency cemetery. Really? So yeah, those are interesting places and historic.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Was Rocky Boy's real name Stonechild?

SPEAKER_03 7:41

Uh uh Okimau Asniwa cheese. That's like uh Chief Rocky Boy, like uh like Stonechild was a translation.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Uh so it could have been both.

SPEAKER_03 7:52

Yeah, it could have been both. So yeah, all the the translations are different.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

I think that's great. It's amazing. I learned some more new things.

SPEAKER_03 8:01

Yeah, Parker Canyon is really interesting.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Uh so pretty.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

A lot of cool uh historical sites. And if you go further up, you you see those um the mountain sheep, the Rocky Mountain.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

Yeah, I want to see that.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

I'm not sure if they're the sheep or the goats. Yeah, the ones where the rams, yeah. Yeah, the rams. You see them up at the gravel pits. I always see them up there or further up. So I I have to take a I go on that road by your house and you can go all the way up and then um you can come out by Duck Creek, Sandy Creek, and Muddy Creek area.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Can you fish up there?

SPEAKER_03 8:35

Yeah, there's places to fish. I love to fish. Fishing, yeah. A lot of people have been fishing.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

I'm all I'm all set for fishing. I love trout. I absolutely love trout. So I'll go catch my trout. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:48

Do you cook? I do cook. Yeah. Do you cook, Angelica?

SPEAKER_01 8:52

Um, ever since I got to college, I kinda had to learn myself. So yeah, I do cook. Where are you in college, Angelica? Um, I go to SKC at Salish Cooteny College, and I lived there for a couple of years, so I had no choice but to learn. So no more home cooked meals.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

So are have you graduated?

SPEAKER_01 9:10

I'm about to here in um June. Congratulations. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

And what's your degree in?

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Um it is in the field of social work, but primarily chemical dependency.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

That is incredible. I wish you'd become a speech pathologist. Um you gotta go for two more years of school.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

I think I've heard something about it, but it's kind of like Mike said, a little bit newer.

unknown 9:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

It's a new feel. Yeah. It's a after world it it started in World War II. Um many of the people who fought in the war had had head injuries. So, speech pathologists, that's where it was conceived in the uh Veterans Administration. And we just worked with head injury. I was trained just with head injury, stroke, any neurological event. My initial training was in that. So pretty fascinating. Yeah. But then I work with children too.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

Yeah, I think it's it's important that we provide services to the youngest and the eldest. I do too. For all of our uh community and um, you know, under the Rocky Boy Health Center. So we're really um reaching new areas.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Yes. Um I uh Mike and I have so much we can talk about, but I thought today we would talk about some of the programs that I would like to initiate. And one is called Rock Steady Boxing. And you say, speech therapist doing boxing, but it's very good for people who've had Parkinson's or a stroke or just things that are not working very well as that happens as we get older. And it's it's a really great program. We just need about between 1,500 and 2,000 to train somebody. And I have a volunteer who would love to work in this program, and he's a boxer, so we're gonna make this happen, aren't we? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. So, what happens? We have a gym, we just need the boxing gear.

SPEAKER_03 11:22

They do have that at the gym. There's a boxing punching bag. Yes. There's one up at the wellness center.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

That's what I heard. So that's all we need. We're all set to start. We just need to get we just need to get our friend trained, and he has to be trained in the program. It is it got its start. Rocksteady boxing got its start with actually with speech pathologists. Um we do a program called LSVT Loud, Lee Silverman Loud Therapy, and that's where we train the vocal cords to actually speak louder. Because with Parkinson's, if any of you know anybody who has Parkinson's, the voice just dwindles, and it's upsetting to a lot of people. It's because they just can't say anything anymore. So the um LSVT loud helps them project their voice and helps them to compose things that they can talk to people so they don't get so embarrassed.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

So their muscles they gotta build their muscles, their vocal cords, maybe? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

Just like you were actually reading about Parkinson's. Were you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

What did you read about?

SPEAKER_01 12:32

So I'm learn I was learning about um neurochemistry and addiction, and we're talking about like um neurochemistry, obviously, but like serotonin levels, dopamine levels, and um we were talking about people with addiction, but then I mentioned okay, but people with Parkinson's also have um a lack of uh movement in areas.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

Yes. It's it's called hypo kinetic movement. So it it slows the muscles. The dopamine is not produced by the body anymore. The dopamine is usually produced in the the hippocampus, and for some reason there's some there's a protein that breaks it down. We see that in Alzheimer's patients too. It's good for patients who have memory problems. If you can imagine, it's very difficult to remember a lot of things, but boxing's not hard. And so I I've set up a couple of gyms, and it'll be fun to set up this one. We had one at Stanford when I worked there, and and then I set up two gyms in Virginia, and it the programs are still going. So I I would you like to volunteer for Rocksteady Boxing?

SPEAKER_01 13:42

I wouldn't mind.

SPEAKER_00 13:43

Okay. We'd love to have you. Yes. Sounds great. That'd be good. So we'll write you down as a volunteer. Great. And we'll get you the name of my friend who's volunteered, needs to go to class, needs to go to training classes.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

How long does it take? The training?

SPEAKER_00 13:58

I think it's over a weekend. It's it's not very long. He has to fly into Indiana. Um, no driving, just fly. So we have to pay for his flight and his staying there, and then the course is, I want to say $1,000. Um But this boxing is just a huge support. I've had so many patients take this class. I had a a gentleman that was brain damaged from boxing. He was an Olympian, and this was in California, and he was boxing in Mexico, and they the boxer loaded his his glove with cement and hit him. Dangerous in the head, very dangerous, hit him in the head, and he had permanent brain damage from that. So we sent him to class because he was a boxer, and he came back and set up the gym. And so it was just so exciting. This the gym is still on, it's in San Jose, California. And so there's um a rock steady boxing in San Francisco, one at Stanford, one at San Jose, and a lot of people go to them. So it's it's a very popular class, and I'm really excited about it. So we are gonna get this rolling. When would you like to start it? Oh as we raise our money.

SPEAKER_03 15:25

Yeah, we gotta raise some money for training. Yeah. And then maybe we can do research between now and then and look at uh we got the equipment and we can set it up with uh Dean at the wellness center. Yes. Check with him.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

And yeah, this this shows the equipment here and this different types of gems and stuff like that. We don't have to do it just like that.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

I think that would that another idea is to have um some boxing, other boxing trainings for youth because it could be something that people want to pursue.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

I would think that would be fantastic. So we can they can come in and volunteer and teach help teach the classes. Then we can cool out. I'd say I like collaboration.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

I I know there's an interest because I see people using the um the punching bags.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Yes and um there's an interest because um I think there's um competition at the winds, if I'm not wrong. Um fights coming up. Uh well they have had them in the past, and I've noticed a lot of youth are interested in it.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

Oh, I think that's yeah, incredible. So we can really get that incorporated so we can start classes as soon as we get it together. Three of us. Gotta start somewhere. We gotta start somewhere. So we'll start with you guys. I'm recruiting everybody. So we'll be the administrative staff, I guess. But this is for you. And here's the equipment that's needed. Um so I I've got this on my computer, so I didn't need copies of it. Um so this is all for you. Okay. Okay, so I'll just put it in a pile because this whole thing is for you. So the next thing I thought would really be helpful for our children and adults is we need to do um an American Sign Language Increased Sign Language class. Um, I'm fluent in American Sign Language, and we need somebody to volunteer to who is fluent in plains Indian Sign Language, and I've got a YouTube for that, and we need to start the classes. And it with the classes, it wouldn't cost anything. We've got the teachers ready. We just need a volunteer, and we just need a place to do the classes. So, any suggestions?

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Uh I know like I know if um there's different venues we could use, like uh like the conference room or here or at the other building, the clinic. There's also the help lodge, and um maybe different the schools might be into it. Um yeah, I think we could.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

I think this is a really neat little program. I have a lot of children who are you learning sign language because their speech is so involved. They have autism and they also have what's called motor planning or dyspraxia. And it some of the children are probably never going to speak. And some of them may not be able to do the sign language, so we have to do an AAC device. But if we can see if they can do sign language, then we can teach the grandparents and the parents type support. Yeah, support for these children, and they're learning it in school. They're learning Cree, and wouldn't that be nice to just support these little friends?

SPEAKER_03 18:55

Yeah, I think that would help with the maybe maybe our Cree teachers at the uh clinic, Cedric and Luann, they can help with that too.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

Let's do that. Let's get them involved. We'll set up a little group. Or else uh yeah. That's another thing on our list. But I I think this is gonna be a really good program. Um in us I'm leaving this with you. And it has a man by the name of Lanny Realbert.

SPEAKER_03 19:24

Oh, Lanny Realbert, yeah. He's the Plains Indian Sign Language Expert.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

Maybe he would help us, you think?

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Yeah, well, I'll ask him. I know he would be interested in doing a Zoom, and maybe if we can come up, that would be cool to have him come up.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

Wouldn't that be fun? Is he the one from Missoula?

SPEAKER_03 19:39

Billings, he lives in Billings, he's uh Absalogay.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

I think that's exciting. It's giving me goosebumps. Just think of how fun that's gonna be. Yes, and um, and then I get to teach, which I love. I love teaching. And uh so that's another little project for us. The next one is I I think it's I don't know if this is a big need, but to me it's a big need. I was in the speech club in high school and I learned how to debate and I learned how to do oratory and present poetry and storytelling and just general public speaking, and it it was really a good experience. So I don't know if they have anything like this at the high school.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Um uh when I was in high school, there was an opportunity for dual credit public speaking, and I took advantage of that, but um I think that that'd be great, a great integration within the community.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Oh, good. So we'll need your support. Definitely. Good, you're you're a team leader. Anyway, it's uh thank you so much. It's it's um just a super program. I I have a lot of young adults that would really benefit from this. There's a speech debate category. Um, I used to do debate, and I did debate at college. I actually got a scholarship at the University of New Mexico for being a debater.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

I was on the debate team. Yeah, my I in high school, my my partner he couldn't pronounce statistics. He always said statistics, and I would just sit there and go, oh, I'm cringe. But I would never, never do that in front of him because I didn't want to be disrespectful. But um debate is really important because it teaches a lot of skills, you know, um to look up things and to develop ideas, to develop a pro and a con. So you're pro something, you're con. So when you debate, the debate person who's judging you, they will say, you're pro this subject. And you're con this subject. So you have to learn about both subjects.

SPEAKER_03 22:03

Oh, you gotta take both sides. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

Something I found interesting about it, because I have a friend who does that over in Ronan when she was in high school and she graduated. But um rather than arguing, which is a lot what a lot of people can end up doing, but it's more of constructive.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

Yes, and it's positive.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

It's positive, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

We learn about both sides of an argument instead of um, you know, just you screaming out what we think. This is not what we think, this is what we've researched. And it'll be it can be a topic that we don't know anything about, and you have to research it and figure out what's good about it, what's bad about it, and how can we solve it. So I think debate is fun. And the next one is prose and poetry. I did this too. Um, I always read uh Robert Frost, and it was Little Bird, Little White Bird. I I'll never forget that. It was about Marilyn Monroe by Robert Frost, and I won a lot of competitions with that.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

Did you?

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Yeah, it was it was really fun. And I literally had the book memorized. It was, and I love Robert Frost. He was such a great poet. And uh so I I think prose and poetry is good. Extemporaneous speaking is where you get a topic, they give you a topic, and you talk about it. And you can do the pros and the cons.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:33

And it's questions about current events. They give you 30 minutes to prepare and deliver a seven-minute speech. So this is really good for cognitive purposes, and actually really good for um just talking on standing on your feet and saying something that's going to be important. And then you can compete with other people and win a trophy. So my trophies are all at Sandy High School.

SPEAKER_03 24:02

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 24:04

In Albuquerque, yeah. And they're still there. There's like 15 of them. Yeah, it was it was really fun. I loved it. Um the next one is impromptu speaking, and they they will just give you a topic, a prompt, a quote, maybe an object, and you need to make up a speech about it. So don't you think that would be fun?

SPEAKER_03 24:29

I think that'd be cool. We should have a contest.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Yeah, we can have a contest here. You know, we gotta get everybody trained, but um I I I will be part of that. I uh we need some elders maybe to support it, and we can start this class right away. It doesn't need any money, and I'm willing to work in in the evening, um, maybe at Mayo, and we'll we can offer the class at Mayo, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

Yeah, I think we should invite um our Mio staff, uh, Cedric and Luen to talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

Yeah, let's let's do that next time.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

Yeah, I think that sounds like a realistic project. Uh promoting the Cree language and ASL and speech.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

Speech. And is um we want our students to be competitive. We want them to be able to tell stories about their tribe. And there's a new one called Storytelling, and this is this is from the National Speech Debate Association, and it's a dramatic retelling of children's stories or fables. Can you imagine? So they can retell stories from the tribe and talk about it. Yeah, learn about storytelling. I don't want to lose that whole thing. When I lived in Ireland, they lost it completely. The Irish were known for storytelling, and it was gone. It was just gone. Um, it was sad to see that go. That's how a lot of things were handed down. Uh, the other area is radio speaking, which I think you would be interested in.

SPEAKER_02 26:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

Uh it's it's delivering a newscast on the radio. Can you imagine? Wouldn't that be fun?

SPEAKER_03 26:12

That'd be cool. Share the current news.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

That would be fun. Yeah. Don't you think so? And we could share it maybe with CBS and something like that.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Isn't there the Eagle? I'm not wrong.

SPEAKER_03 26:23

Kihu?

SPEAKER_01 26:24

I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:25

Yeah, the radio station.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

I listen to them every now and then. We have a radio station.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

The tribe. The tribe does. Yeah. See, this would be so much fun.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Like a collaboration or something. Yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

Yeah, they could come and help us teach the class. Wonderful. Great. She's great. I'm so glad she's along with us today. Uh, so that's the speech and debate team. We can start that right away. So we just need to kind of get it together. And the other one is called junior achievement. This one I think is really exciting. This is for um, I was in junior achievement in high school too. My dad wouldn't let me be a cheerleader. He was absolutely refused that. He said, join something that's intellectually stimulating. So I was okay, let me see what's out there. So junior achievement is a wonderful organization. It's um it's a very large group, and uh we were able to develop uh a business. And so you have different elders or people who are business people that come in and volunteer and teach various groups how to develop a business. And there's a brief history on it. It was founded in 1919. It's um I I met a lot of wonderful people in this in this group. It was just tremendously fun. It was an after-school project. We could offer this over also at Mio. And um it did I say that right?

SPEAKER_03 28:01

Yeah, Mio.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

Yeah, I didn't pronounce this correctly first. But it's they we need volunteers from people who are business people here on the reservation. Yeah, and then um we can set up this organization, and it doesn't require any money. And the the young adults learn how to develop a business. They actually promote the business. Our business we did were little planters, I remember that. And we had to go out and sell them.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

So you have to.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

Yeah, we made them. We had to make everything.

SPEAKER_03 28:39

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

So if you want to do beads or if you want to open a coffee shop. Crafting a coffee, yeah. Yeah, coffee shop would be just lovely. Crafting, uh, storytelling, any anything like that. Writing a book. Uh it it would be fun for a group to write a book about I think they were talking about doing a digital media group. Wouldn't that be fun? Yeah, dig yeah, and that these would be junior achievement groups, so they can offer it to the youths so that they know there's other things that out there. But you know, it's still incorporating the culture. I think that's so important. So those are my new little things.

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Awesome. Well, I'm glad you uh brought some cool new things to share. I think we you know we can pursue the rock the rock steady boxing, do the figure out a way to get some uh uh people trained, and we can have them uh do a class. And uh we talked about the ASL Plains Indian Sign Language class, and um I think that is really something that it's realistic because it's with the language revitalization.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

And it's free. Yeah. I I can volunteer to do the ASL. We just need a Cree teacher.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

I I think that would be fun and teach it to anybody can join it. You know, young children, adults, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

Yeah, but then the speech uh the debate speech and debate class, we can talk about that and prose of poetry and uh extemporaneous speech. Debate.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

That sounds fun. Sounds like uh an genuine rush, really.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

Me too. I'm excited about it.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

Yeah, it sounds really exciting.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

Yeah, it's it's really gonna be fun. It's stuff we can do. The only thing is we need money for rock steady boxing. But I already have a volunteer who wants to, who is a boxer, and um he would love to be part of that. And I think it would really help everybody here.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

Yeah, so we can get some get some youth involved and some adults.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

I the last thing I wanted to talk about was advocacy, and I offer this as part of my speech therapy. Um it's really important that we help people. Um I I I'm thinking of somebody that had something happen to them. I don't want to go into details, but they need somebody to advocate for them. That is, what do you want to do? What would you how can I help you? What do you need? What what do we need to do to get you to the next step? And so I offer that. So if you know of anybody who needs to have an advocate, I'm an advocate. And speech therapy can do that.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

So it sounds good. I think there's people that are that could use it that are not, um, maybe not wanting to ask for help. But could you use it?

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Yeah, so if you can think of anybody, just let me know I'm here and I can advocate for them. I have three people, four people right now that I'm advocating for. Oh, nice. And so finding social security, finding, and I ask people, Mary Dewberry's been very helpful with me. Yeah, uh, I I love Mary Duberry, she's like my one of my dearest friends. So um, I'll let her listen to this so she can tell how much I like her. Yeah, uh, but um she's she's been extremely helpful. We doing DVR next week with two of the people, and they want to move to Haver, so we're gonna make that happen and get them jobs and get back on track a little bit. Awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's exciting. It's and it gives me goosebumps.

SPEAKER_03 32:31

Okay, well, I want to thank you guys for coming over today. It's really good that we can talk about services and ideas. It's good to um talk about these ideas and make them reality and you know, figure out ways we can advocate for our our our people, people that are um uh wanting to do new things and um physical things with boxing, rock steady boxing and the speech, which has been our topic for uh several podcasts, right? Many months, yeah. All right, well, thank you, Angelica, and thank you, uh Martha, for coming over today and sharing, and we'll look forward to next time and we'll figure out how we can make this a reality. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. Okay, take care.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

Awesome. Thank you. Thank you.