UNBOXING OD: Exploring the Work Behind the Work
Unboxing OD is your guide to making sense of Organizational Development - one thoughtful conversation at a time. Hosted by Kenneth Pearson, seasoned OD practitioner and author of The Flow of Five Tiers, this podcast unpacks the complexity of organizational life with clarity, compassion, and a bit of edge.
Whether you're an early-career OD professional, a leader trying to navigate change, or simply someone who believes workplaces can be more human, you'll find grounded insights and actionable takeaways here. While most episodes are solo deep dives into the fieldwork and philosophy behind OD, we also feature voices from the field, bringing in experts, newcomers, and those who challenge the status quo.
No jargon. No endless theory. Just practical wisdom, lived experience, and a steady focus on making organizations better for the people who keep them alive.
Ready to deepen your OD practice? Connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/company/unboxing-od-podcast or visit the Pearson & Pearson LLC website at www.pearsonpearson.llc.
UNBOXING OD: Exploring the Work Behind the Work
Episode 26: The Inner Work of Leadership - A Conversation with Poor Bear Chalepah
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In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson sits down with Poor Bear Chalepah, consultant, visionary leader, and soon-to-be PhD in Industrial-Organizational Psychology. As a proud member of the Apache Tribe of Oklahoma, Poor Bear shares his journey across industries -- from railroads and welding to organizational psychology, and the lessons that shaped his approach to leadership, belonging, and growth.
Together, Kenneth and Poor Bear explore what it means to move beyond the buzzwords of inclusion, how authentic leaders create space for stories and cultures to thrive, and why the inner work of leadership is as vital as any strategy. Along the way, they talk about code switching, cultural belonging, growth mindsets, and the challenges of breaking barriers as an Indigenous scholar and practitioner.
This conversation is both practical and deeply human, offering insight into how leaders can meet people where they are and build organizations that honor authenticity and belonging.
ABOUT POOR BEAR CHALEPAH: Poor-Bear brings a wealth of experience across various industries, specializing in leadership and organizational development. He is a visionary committed to helping others build not just great, but phenomenal companies. He is a proud member of the Apache Tribe of Oklahoma and actively engaged in Indigenous life. Deeply devoted to his wife, Serena, and daughter, Averie, he centers his work in family and purpose. Poor-Bear will soon earn his Ph.D. in Industrial-Organizational Psychology from Keiser University, joining the fewer than 0.01% of Indigenous people who hold a doctorate in this field.
CONNECT WITH POOR BEAR CHALEPAH ON LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-poor-bear-chalepah-029610220/
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