Cancer within

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hello, welcome to Off World Culture with Kay and Barry coming at you from the ATL. The ATL. And we are driving. We do our podcasts in my car. Mostly we do mobile. We're very mobile. We're very mobile. Very mobile. Um, okay. And so while we're driving, you might hear some bitch and shit and stuff like that, but that's only because people don't know how to drive down here and I'm giving a little road raids. So um so the question I asked uh my friend tonight very was um was what do you want out of life? And I asked him that question because I'm I I asked myself that question on on a regular basis. What do I want out of life? What you know, and I don't mean in the selfish sense, like, what do I want out of life? I want a million dollars, I want I mean those is those things for the guy something wrong, but you know, it's more about all the matter for the good, you know.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

Um hard to answer that. Most people just live. It is, yeah. Just living.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

We just go through the motions every day and but the thing is we can do more, like even a small kindness. Like we were walking out, everybody. Yeah, yeah, something small. Like Barry left open the uh we were walking out, I think earlier today, correct me if I'm wrong, but we were walking out and and a girl was coming, and Barry held the door open, and she she went in, of course, but she didn't say thank you or nothing like Yeah, I don't even like holding the doors.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Like you you ever notice every time we walk walk inside, uh we hold a door open, or the or no, anytime a woman holds a door open first and I walk out, they always give me like the mean move. Like what why did you do that?

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Like I like I done broke some cardinal rule. Yep. Some unhold un unwholesome rule. Well, this is the thing, I've actually I I started to tell you this, but I forgot. Uh there was this lady that came into the work the other day and I was holding the door open for her. But she had to come in real quick and leave because we were closed, right? Well, she was an attractive woman. She was wearing uh nice, you know, uh white, very foreign-fitting dress. So anyway, she came in and she started to go back out, and I held the door open for her. She didn't say nothing. But she had to grab her wallet and come back in. So as she's coming back in, I had to open the door again because we were closed. So she comes in again. I hold the door open for her and smile, and she says nothing. No thank you, no, nothing.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

It doesn't, it's not hard to say thank you. Because they think that the world is they're entitled to revolves around them, sort of thing, or yeah, that's just ungrateful.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

That's ignorant.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

That's I get I get now, I do get a lot of thank yous, but yeah, I just notice the more when we're out and I and a girl holds the door open because they cause they think we're about to hold it open, then we I catch then we catch it when we're holding it, and I'll walk right past and I'll say thank you. They give me this bean mug. Yeah. Like how how dare a man how dare they open for a door for a guy?

SPEAKER_02 2:58

How dare you? And then some women are like, No, I'm capable of opening the door myself. I don't need you.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

And it's like, well, of course you don't need me, but it's just it's a nice It's very trivial things that feel like to me it's just speaks to their attitude. Like if you're if you're like this with a stranger, I'll only imagine you like it being married.

SPEAKER_02 3:19

Which is weird because they'll tell you, you know, a lot of marriage counselors will tell you that most people are are nicer to strangers than they are their own spouse. But that's pretty bad when you say that because not everybody's you know if that's your nice, then can you imagine the other?

SPEAKER_01 3:35

Yeah, you can get a lot of a lot of people have shitty characters, man. Yep. And we see it a lot. Like anytime you go online, like Facebook, there's always these fights and their videos that keep popping up, and I don't like 'em necessarily. But it's just something small, like, you know, somebody looked at somebody wrong or somebody, and I'm just like, man, do people have such little con and we were talking about this earlier. People don't have a lot of control over their emotions.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Yeah, I remember how I said it. I said a lot of people it's it's harder to be a good person and stay and and go like it's harder than it's easier to be a bad person.

SPEAKER_02 4:11

Yeah, well remember you said where you say, like, oh I asked you, I say which one's harder to be, an asshole or like a nice person, you know? And it's easier to be an asshole, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:20

It's just the way easier people respond was harder to be nice. 'Cause I like because I was telling Caleb how I was I've been told I'm too nice. But the thing is, I'm not just nice just to be nice, I'm nice because number one, that is my per character, but at the same time it takes work to do that. It does. It's not easy. The fact that you think being nice is not work. I mean that that's that speaks to their um worldview. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

When you really need something, I should be I should be an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 4:59

And some and I hate this, but I read this the other day. Girls respond more to an asshole than they do a nice guy.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

And I'm like so so when they get into relationships with these bad bad guys that treat them bad, they bitch is like, well, you kind of knew that. Like you you kicked that. Like you can't, you know. You don't want the nice guy because he's too nice, but God forbid. You want your bad boy to be nice to you. That's very sad. It is. People are very strange, man.

unknown 5:29

People are very strange.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

They don't they don't do no inner work. Most people don't do no inner work at all.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

You're right. They just let the world tell them what they need to do. Yeah. And shape them how it, you know. They let the world shape their opinions and everything.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

They don't have no inner they don't have their own thoughts of their own.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Everything comes from either the internet or s the subconscious. They don't never question anything.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

No. And the young people, they just like you were just saying, they they accept, you know, whatever the world tells them, basically.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Like in their phone and all that other shit. You know. Now I've noticed I've seen I'm starting to see a little bit more half and have. Like I see older people and they they they look they they they have they have deeper insights.

unknown 6:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

A little deeper meaning. Yeah, I see some younger people that have a little bit more deeper insights, but then but I see it on both ends. It's like sometimes I see the younger guys and like, oh you're still stupid.

SPEAKER_01 6:23

Yeah, you're not sure.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

I'm like, oh yeah, you're definitely stupid.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, and you expect it, you know, not stupid from older people, you expect like because they typically have more ex well, they have more experience because they're older. But it's shameful because I hear it from Barry, you know, he tells me about older folks folk folks, and it's very disappointing to me because I'm like, these older people should know better. They have experience, they know better, you know, they should just know better. Like, I can I can give a pass to a younger person because he might or she might not know.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

And then there's this whole thing to where like it's this whole thing where the older generation loves to say how everything was harder back in that time. Where I'm just like, mmm, is that really true? Yeah, I don't know. Because I'm like, if that was the case, then then y'all should then then then those same people should be living lavishly right now. But but they're not. So yeah, right. Clearly your words are facts.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

But you say like there were some altercations and stuff at your job recently. Like some, you know, I mean I see that my job too, but uh I guess kind of going back to the point where we were talking about how people can control their emotions. Well, I don't mean that to be funny. I'm not he he was a wise guy, but he was a wise, he was a man that was wise, is what I'm trying to say. That didn't come out right. So, anyways, my point being is he made a good quote that's always stuck with me. He said, Um, never let your emotions dictate your actions. And so, like if somebody starts screaming off at me wanting me to whatever fight or engage with them, I won't I won't let them take me there. Because I have control over my emotions. You know, when you let somebody get you into a fight or something, they have control over you. You're allowing them to have control over you. But it goes back to just everybody, you know, just you know, thinking before you speak, which is something that a lot of people should consider. Um being slow to speak, quick to listen, which is something biblical. It's in the Bible. I've actually tried to live by that. I haven't always succeeded, that's for sure. But um about control, man. People just can't control their emotions or even know, like you said, many times, they don't even know what the hell they feel most of the time, or know how to express it.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Yeah, they don't know how to process, process their own oddly enough, you're not taught in school how to you're not taught enough about your own brain. Not your body, yeah, but your brain.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

Well, so in school, all I learned was social studies, math, well, not really, but you know, like they never taught like a lot of things. The emotional society.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

All the po all the all the goings of your body.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

But don't you think they don't want to teach you all that well what the health ed class where they're like this is what a banana does.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Okay, that was like all the all the psychology, like like so like for example, like uh if you tell your brain that you're sick, your brain's not gonna know the difference between you being sick and you telling your brain that you're sick, it's gonna think, oh, you're sick.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

You're sick. Munchhausers. That's what they call it at the doctors. When people come in, it's an actual uh diagnosis called Munchausen disease, where people tell themselves, like Barry just said, and they tell themselves they're sick. They're not, but they I mean they are mentally, but like they tell themselves, and their body, you know, what is it? Mind controls, you know, the mind controls the body. So they'll tell themselves they're sick, and they'll go in and play this whole sick thing, and but it's called Munchhauser, you know. But anyways, going back to what you were saying about school and stuff, I was thinking, you know, how we had to take social studies, math, whatever, you know. Wouldn't it be cool if they included a class for like mental stability or something?

SPEAKER_00 10:12

You would you know that man. That's not a bad idea, actually. That's a perfect idea. But but you gotta start it off like it would have to be like early, like around that middle school. Everybody's trying to learn it when they're past 30, yeah, and 20, 40, then like wait, let's do this.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Let's start them early or something.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

So just imagine how, like you just said, just imagine how better off things would be at if you just taught if we were taught the right things, yep, how to do everything the right way earlier. Yeah, we would be like a not a perfect society, but we would be getting closer and closer.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, Barry makes a great point because I learned about Macbeth and all that shit. I couldn't tell you anything about them, but yeah, like I never used Macbeth in my life. That shit would never apply. So if they had replaced that with mental stability or something like we're talking about, that would have been much more.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

And all of those tragic stories are basically that anyway. Just how to overcome things.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Yeah, yeah. And they never taught you that in school, so and your parents are supposed to teach you, but you know, a lot of parents don't know how, or people don't have parents, so that falls short. But yeah, that would have been good in class, man, to add that. I mean, they did uh what was it called? Sex ed. That was really weird.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

That's different, right? That's different.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

That was weird. Yeah, that's different.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Talking about more like mental, like or just information that actually helps that you can actually use. Mm-hmm. They don't want to actually have that in school because then they can't make money off of having prescribing people and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 11:41

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

It wouldn't the the economy wouldn't thrive.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

I hate to say this, but I feel like I I hate to say this, man, but our country thrives, unfortunately, thrives on mental illness. So they wouldn't have much of an incentive to, you know, make people more mentally safe.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Yeah, it wouldn't work. Why would they want that? Exactly. Everybody's getting more smarter and aware.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

Yeah, then they're not they're not paying, they're not getting prescription drugs and and all this shit, so the government's like, oh, this isn't cool. Like, you know, we need more mental cases so we can make more money off of people.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

Yeah, that wouldn't that doesn't help them.

unknown 12:16

No.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Whoever them are. So yeah, it's like like that's why it's hard. It's harder to be a good person all the time. Yeah, it is. Or be a better person because that takes work. It takes work. Being bad is doesn't take no work. Yeah, it doesn't. Like it's like how we saw at this when we have went to this restaurant and the guy this oddly enough, the short guy is holding his gun on his hole on his hip, but you can see it over his shirt, under his shirt, because he's holding it out.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

He's showing it out. Well, we and Barry were eating and we're sitting in this uh guy or two guys walking, one's uh shorter than the other, and he has a concealment uh well he has a gun, but he has a concealment uh carry, which you're supposed to wear on the inside. But he just happens, his shirt is untucked, but on the side his gun is he tucked the shirt in so you could see the gun. And Barry was just like, oh, that dude's making up, you know, for something because you know he's short and I was like showing this gun. Yeah, showing it off.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

I'm like, man, you come on, man.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

It's like we were joking around and see I were read you, read you so hard. Yeah. I mean, we were joking around outside, so I always carry, not always, but I always typically carry a nine millimeter on my ankle. So I I pulled up my my pet leg and said, Hey man, how about I walk around like this? You know, like you know, but yeah, I mean he made a good point about this that guy was overcompensating, probably. He had a gun, it had like extended uh magazine. He needed extra bullets. The funny thing is extended mags, you don't put those in a gun that you want to conceal ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so he he had enough bullets because he wanted very confident he could hit his target. Right. He probably had like 18, no 20 something rounds in that, probably more, 23. I have six rounds in my little you know, my nine.

unknown 14:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

But probably be more accurate with him than Oh, yeah. It was just sad. It's like, see, that's the type of person you can read their character. If I wouldn't ever want to I wouldn't even want to argue with him because I know he He just might shoot you.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Yeah, he might you may or at least try to shoot you. Right. You might miss, but and and that goes for you know, all people. You can read you can read people for the most part, but you know, I see it at my job all the time. Women that come in, you can tell what kind of day they're having, you can see it in their eyes. I mean, some of them just have that, you know, look in their eyes, like do not approach, you know, do not speak. Because they're going through something or something, or you know, insecurities, uh uh anxiety, all that shit.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

That you know like the guy I worked with a couple it was like last week or the week before that when he was um when I was uh when I was quiet a lot. He was like, What's he's like he's like he's like, What's wrong with you today? He's like he's like, you're not your chipper self today.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

He's a chipper self.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

It's like, well, I had I I have my moments too. I'm gonna be smiling all the time, wanting to talk to you all the goddamn time. The hell? I can't have my moments in myself. Yeah, exactly. I feel like shit sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 15:14

No, it's funny he says that because it's similarly happened at my job. Like, I I just kind of been worn down lately, and and somebody had said to me, like, you know, uh I don't know, they got mad that I was worn out, but that's just that's reality. I was reading this thing earlier that said everybody in America well, probably goes outside of America, but everybody in America should at least, minimum, at least have two vacations a year from their job. It said specifically their job. And how many vacations have you had in the past few years, Barry? Zero.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

Well, not a lot. Me zero.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

Me too.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

Really?

SPEAKER_02 15:48

I mean, I wouldn't even call like the size of that was unemployed.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

That was a vacation.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Well, that's not a real vacation. Like, I guess me, me and Barry, we went up uh with some friends to a lock uh well, not a lock cabin. What definitely was a very nice I use the word cabin, but it's it's very nice. Let's just put it that way. It's very nice. But we went for three days. We took three days off of work. The problem was we got up there Friday night. It was, you know, whatever, it was dark. And we had Saturday, and then we had to leave next day Sunday, so that wasn't much of a vacation at all. It was like a blink of an eye. Like I could blink my eye when a road vacation is like a week. At least. Yep. At least. I haven't had one of those in years, dude. Years. Probably like back with one of my exes or something.

unknown 16:39

Right.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

Long, long time ago. I know, and we all work, like uh the uh me and and the uh me and Barry and the other uh other three guys that went other three guys that went with us, like we all work, and that was kind of like our thing to try to relax and stuff, and yeah, we maybe relaxed for like an hour, but like we just you know, we didn't we didn't really get a vacation. Well I guess my point is is like, you know, you need that time to breathe and stuff so you don't go off on somebody else or you know, you snap. Yeah, yeah. I mean everybody needs it.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

I mean I think that like in this crazy country they would have like outlets for you to like do stuff like that or they would give you opp everybody their own opportunity time to enjoy themselves. Yep, I guess they're gonna have like a designated like like where they can kind of help you not help you, but like like they can like like they can give you like their your own two days, like you get two days personally, and then the rest is on you. Like some stuff that you would think like all of this will go into it.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Nah. But well they call like I've heard some other people say this, they call 'em personal days. Right. Uh and we don't I don't know about you, but we don't get anything like that at our jobs. Like you take a personal day, you're gonna get written up. But if they did something like that, you know, like for mental health. We have one girl at our job fucking cutting her wrists and everything, and she's doing this on the job.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Like she's doing that, then that's like that's a crop for help.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

That's it.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

Yeah. You're doing that for attention. Yeah, yeah. If you're really about it, you would have did it.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

Yeah, you're right. But I I could honestly say I I think a vacation might help her. Yeah, or whatever. Yeah, something.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

But yeah, I mean, it's just Well first you gotta address the root cause. Like, why are you cutting it?

SPEAKER_02 18:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

But yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

And that's right, like Barry's right, like you gotta get to the root of everybody's different. No snowflake light. So I what I suffer with is what I suffer with is is what I s of course my uh window doesn't go up. Um what I suffer with is different than what you know Barry maybe suffers with, you know. Damn that train.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

Yeah, I mean it is close.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Yeah, okay, now it does uh yeah. Sorry guys, we're there's a train going by. I'm trying to do my window up and my car wasn't feeling it. So but yeah, I mean, yeah, like Barry's saying, you gotta get to the root of the problem, and everybody's problem is different, everybody's roots are different too. But i if you're feeling empty or you're angry all the time or whatever, there's something that that means there's something more going on to you. Like, like an airplane, for example. If I'm flying Assessment 172 and something breaks, then one of these panels are gonna tell me, hey, this is broken. But when our heart gets broken or we got some serious shit inside of us, there's no button that comes on that says, Hey, you might want to take care of your frontal lobe because you're about to smash somebody's face in. Like, you know, so you have to do these things on your own, otherwise you you know, don't wait. Do not put these things off to oh, I'll deal with it another time. Because you could go off, fly off the handle, do something bad, and spend the rest of your life in a jail for something you did for two seconds. It's not worth it.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

Or go off with somebody, yeah, go right and go off go off on somebody that didn't deserve it.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

Exactly, exactly. Yeah, and that's even worse.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Nobody never goes off on the people that deserve it. Some some sometimes it happens.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

Yeah, it's seldom though.

SPEAKER_00 20:06

It's not a lot. Mostly innocent people get caught because people don't want to wanna hold in, wanna you know, let go of their emotions.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

Oh yeah. Well they can't, you know.

unknown 20:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

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