From TBI to The River Why to Empathic AI: Cameron Scott's Epic Journey | E52

A childhood head-on collision. A life shaped by traumatic brain injury. A moment of waking up after a suicide attempt and deciding, with total clarity, to choose life. Cameron Scott joins me for a raw, grounded conversation about what concussion recovery can really look like when the symptoms are not just physical, but emotional, relational, and spiritual too. (This conversation includes reference to suicide. Listener discretion is advised.)

We talk through the long arc: multiple TBIs, missing memories from “before,” the overwhelm that makes crowds feel unbearable, and the way alcohol can become a shortcut to numb the nervous system until it turns into its own injury. Cameron shares what helped him rebuild, including sobriety, daily meditation, journaling, yoga, and a simple hand-on-heart practice that brought him out of self-judgment and back into his body. We also explore a powerful reframe for mental health after brain injury: the “dark” part of you may not be the enemy, and integration can quiet the fight inside.

Then we go deep on transformational and holotropic breathwork, why it can feel like years of talk therapy compressed into minutes, and how breath can clear stored stress before closing with love and gratitude. We also connect healing to modern work, including Cameron’s emotionally intelligent AI project for wellness coaches and his Coherence Codex custom GPT designed to help you pause, regain clarity, and make better decisions when you are triggered or overwhelmed.

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Transcript

Content Warning And Grounding

Dr. Ayla Wolf 0:39

This episode contains reference to suicide. Listener discretion is advised.

Cameron Scott 0:45

Whether it's good or bad, as hard as that might be to digest at times, especially when we're in a state of poor mental health. But those little things. Those little check-ins every day, like learning to love ourselves fully. Put your hand on your heart. Take a deep breath. Remember who you are. You matter. Your voice matters. Your story matters. Your love to this world matters. We need you. All of you.

Why This Podcast Exists

Dr. Ayla Wolf 1:17

Welcome to Life After Impact, the Concussion Recovery Podcast. I'm Dr. Ayla Wolf, and I'll be hosting today's episode where we help you navigate the often confusing, frustrating, and overwhelming journey of concussion and brain injury recovery. This podcast is your go-to resource for actionable information, whether you're dealing with a recent concussion, struggling with post-concussion syndrome, or just feeling stuck in your healing process. In each episode, we dive deep into the symptoms, testing, treatments, and neurological insights that can help you move forward with clarity and confidence. We bring you leading experts in the world of brain health, functional neurology, and rehabilitation to share their wisdom and strategies. So if you're feeling lost, hopeless, or like no one understands what you're going through, know that you are not alone. This podcast can be your guide and partner in recovery, helping you build a better life after impact. Cameron Scott, welcome to Life After Impact, the Concussion Recovery Podcast. How are you today?

Cameron Scott 2:23

So nice to see you. Thank you for having me here. Uh, it's a pleasure to share this hour with you for sure.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 2:29

Yes, you too. So I had the honor of not only meeting you at Pranamaya during a healing retreat, but you led a holotropic breathwork class that honestly condensed like 20 years of therapy into about 20 minutes for me. I had like an amazing epiphany during that. And so I just so thankful for uh your contribution to that retreat and just what uh what I got out of those 20 minutes was quite incredible. So you have quite an interesting background. You're a you're a world-renowned fishing guide, and I know you're humble about that, so I'm just gonna come out and say it. And you teach breathwork courses. You've been working really hard on this incredible AI tool that's actually empathic. Um, but you've also had a traumatic brain injury. And that's really, I think, one of the things that probably led you on pursuing a lot of these incredible paths in your life. So maybe we start at the beginning.

The Crash And Lasting TBI

Addiction And A Suicide Attempt

Cameron Scott 3:37

I'd love to. I'd love to. And you know, it's just funny that you you literally coined what my breath work teacher, uh, his name is John Paul Crimi. You literally coined one of his primary advertising slogans. He's like, this breathwork is more powerful than 20 years of talk therapy in 20 minutes. All right. I can attest to that. It had the same impact on me when I started it. And and, you know, uh more will be revealed shortly. Yeah, so uh I guess we'll we'll start on the topic of traumatic brain injuries, right? Because I that that is really that to your point, that is the one of the defining injuries. And a lot of us as humans have so many injuries, whether they're spiritual, emotional, physical, um, you know, that was a turning point in my life. So in uh 1982, July 4th, 1982, my mom took my three sisters and I to a little 4th of July party here in Portland, Oregon. And on our way home, we got hit head on by a drunk driver uh going the wrong way down I-5 at 75 miles per hour. Wow. And those were the days when seat belts weren't a requirement. And so I was in the front passenger seat at 12 years old or so. Yeah, about 12, eight years old. I'm sorry, eight years old. And when that impact hit us, um, I my seat was reclined like this. And so my body folded and I, you know, head, head butted into the dashboard. And it took the uh paramedics with and the firefighters with the jaws of life back then to get me out of that dashboard and get me to the hospital. And I arrived there at DOA and was in a coma for three weeks with uh skull fracture on the right side, uh, lost my hearing in the right side. And, you know, there's this thing when we're kids, and you know, there's so many different dimensions of post-traumatic injuries like that. But growing up, I grew up uh in a in an environment with a father that was extremely uh uh veteran PTSD, Vietnam veteran, PTSD. Uh, my first brother, uh, my my older first brother drowned in a in a tragic accident when my mom was seven months pregnant with me. So, you know, there's different levels of trauma, right, that that impact our our physical, spiritual being, regardless of injury. Um, but this injury, this particular injury was it was almost like um it's I don't remember anything pre-req. Like none of my childhood exists pre-crash. Nothing. I have no recollection of anything. Oh, wow. And so post-req, um, there were probably about two years, if I remember correctly, maybe more, where I had to do like so many brain injury tests. Like I remember being in these chairs that would spin me in a room with a light. And, you know, just as a as a young person, as a as an adolescent, like these experiences on top of the previous kind of father-child traumas, right, made me very uncomfortable in the world. And and I became, I was very like um, you know, antisocial to a point, but also like bouncing back and forth at that, at that young age from, you know, wanting to play outside to hiding in the closet. And as my journey uh progressed at like 15, 16, I found alcohol. And so I started, you know, drinking ham's beers with my friends, you know, and and and and and in that was the beginning of an addiction. And that addiction obviously allowed me to let go of all the inhibitions, the, you know, the things about being afraid of being around people, and and yet in those drunken experiences, I would have like these fits of rage. I I had this journey of like bouncing back and forth and and never really being um comfortable in social environments and not understanding what childhood trauma was and not understanding any of this stuff. And so, you know, fast forward, uh, I got sober in 2009 after years of bipolar disorder, diagnoses, different medications, but every medication that I ever took um actually made me more suicidal. And so I struggled constantly in my 20s and and and 30s with suicidal thoughts, mostly because of the number one mixture of alcohol and the depressions and and the and the medication. So April 15, 2009, I attempted a suicide. And that I woke up the next morning after a blackout with a new ceramic. And that experience, waking up on the floor, piecing together what I had done, um was one of the defining moments of my life. Because that morning, when I realized how sick I actually was, I chose life. And so the next day I checked myself into outpatient rehab. And I am, I'll never forget this man. I'll loved him for the rest of my life. I walked into that class, you know, two days after this, uh, this, this, this attempt, and I introduced myself. And because I always spoke in a way that I thought, you know, speak the way people want you to, what they want to hear from you, not what you want to say. I said like 10 words, and he's like, I'm gonna stop you right there. Every time you speak in this class for the rest of your time in here, the next 30 days, I want it with your hand on your heart. Matter of fact, I want you to sit in here with your hand on your heart, all the entire time you're here. The minute my hand touched my heart, right? I just started crying. And I mean, you know, in this room full of people I didn't know, in a place I'd never been, like all of these emotions came out the minute I touched this face, I had never even thought about before. I was always up here. I was always like, you're not good enough, you're not worthy, you're not lovable, you're not loved, you don't you you don't need to be here. And the minute I touched this like power vortex, it was just like, wah! And this, and you know, everybody came over and put their hands on my shoulders and my back. And it was a def it was one of those moments where I realized, like, I don't know shit. I don't know anything. And I and everything I've ever told a doctor was really a lie. Like, it was always me trying to make myself look better and my ego trying to stand in front of what is a traumatic brain injury? What do those impacts have? And and and what are the effects of alcoholism in your life, other than you know, following in the footsteps of what you've been taught. And so I started sobriety. And the foundation of my sobriety was based in AA. And so I went to AA for seven years and I learned how to, I learned how to be sober. But along the way, I found uh I found yoga. And yoga opened up a whole nother, like a whole nother dimension of like, whoa, body and breath. It's not just about the heart. Like, whoa, holy cow, what's going on? And and I fell in love with yoga. And and that path led me to meditation and breath work and journaling, right? And so, you know, there'll be, I'm sure you're gonna have some questions here, but that's kind of like the extended path of realizing from a TBI, which it was it really that TBI was my first one. I've had three. My car accident happened at eight. The second traumatic brain injury was 12 in Alaska. We had moved up to Alaska. And it for any kid that lives up there, you probably do this too. Like in the winter, the icicles get so big hanging, well, they probably do, and and yeah, not in Portland, but the icicles get so big hanging off the roof that as kids we used to run around with our sleds and you know, hit the top of the hit the ice, the ice hanging off the roof and you know, cover our head, and that ice would jam into the snow. Well, the sled fell out of my hand or something, and one of those ice cubes, as it came down, hit me on the top of the head. And that was the second concussion.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 12:11

Oh my gosh.

Cameron Scott 12:12

And and then the third, uh, in high school I used to train horses, and I got uh kicked off and and I got bucked off and kicked in the back of the head, and that was my third. So though that is kind of my, you know, um concussion TBI components of mental health, right? And how that shows up in our life and how we show up in understanding it.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 12:38

And do you recall other symptoms that you can relate directly back to those kind of teenage concussions in terms of difficulty with school, or mostly just kind of cognitive emotional effects?

Cameron Scott 12:52

Mostly cognitive and emotional, but in high school, the primary effect really was like just wanting to be in isolation. It was like I was so overwhelmed in crowd, in in, you know, high school events at sporting events. The only time I could ever do like the dances or concerts in my 20s was like completely inebriated. It was like that was the only thing that shut down whatever was so overstimulated, you know, that that it was like either if I was to attend, it was inebriation or I didn't go, right? And and so that haunted, that followed me for quite a while for sure.

Nature As A Nervous System Reset

Dr. Ayla Wolf 13:32

And so what role did being in Alaska, where you've got access to like incredible nature, uh, what role did that play?

COVID Breakpoint And Losing The Masks

Integrating The Dark Part Within

Cameron Scott 13:42

Yeah. Nature has always been my healer. And and I grew up in Ben, I mean, most of my childhood was in Bend, Oregon. We spent a year or so in Portland, and about a year in Montana and a year in in Alaska, but most of it was in Bend, Oregon. And, you know, Ben, for anybody out there that's heard of Ben, it is such an amazing place. It'll forever be the home in my heart. But like every day I was down, either playing in the river or or out, you know, climbing the hills. And for me, like nature was the thing that always silenced that discomfort of my, you know, my inner voices. Like I could just go out and sit on a rock on the river at 14, 15, and find some solace in that place by myself. And for me, that opened up like this massive door of purpose, like not purpose yet, passion. And and so every day, fly rod, spinning rod, fly rod, like down, you know, hopping boulders, you know, running through the creeks and the rivers and fishing, which allowed me to walk this path of that became like my purpose. Like fishing became my purpose. And I mean, for like all of my high school 20s, 30s, even into my even my 40s, I just finished um uh guiding in the backcountry two years ago. That purpose allowed me to share experiences because I also realized something like one of my greatest joys is sharing experiences. And when I became a fly fishing guide, it was like, it was like God answering every prayer I ever wanted was to, you know, take people on amazing trips down beautiful rivers, chasing, you know, fish that live in the most majestic canyons and and have the experience of a lifetime. And and so, you know, that's part of like what we'll talk about here in a moment is how do I want to say this? Like, so my my my TBI, I struggled with medications my entire time. Every time I took them, it made me feel worse. And yet when I didn't take them, I didn't understand the swings that I had, right? From highs to lows. And so I had this battle for many years uh with the medications, and I would take them for a while and then not take them, and take them for six months and then not take them. And when COVID happened, I had been in a long-term loving relationship and and and I was a high-end home builder in Bend, Oregon. I was also a fly fishing guide, and I was a breathwork teacher and a life coach, and I had all these different things going. And when COVID happened, like something inside of me snapped. I realized I was living in multiple dimensions of purpose and passion, and yet something inside of me was like you were standing behind a half a dozen masks, never really showing your authentic, your authentic self. That's the person that knows who you are behind all the people that you're portraying yourself to be. And so I went on a road trip. And I went on, like I sold everything. I ended relationships, sold house, sold business, sold everything. And I and I went on a drive. And I'm and and when I started that drive, I had no plan, no place to go, no nothing. I was just lost, adrift in this universe of like, what am I supposed to do with my life? And so I went on a 28,000-mile drive. I drove all over the western United States, every dirt road I could find, every every hidden nook in Baja. And along the way, I started peeling these masks off. And I had promised myself on the journey that, you know, I wasn't going to do any medication. I was gonna go out and I was gonna ask myself some really hard questions about what I discovered in the healing modalities of yoga and breathwork and meditation and sharing these modalities as a breathwork teacher in retreats and go out and ask some really hard questions and peel these masks off to find that authentic person that I that is in each one of us that we so often refuse it to come to the surface because of uh who we think we're supposed to be, how we think we're supposed to show up, right? And so during this journey, I uncovered some of those truths. And and what the first one, like so what I'm gonna share, like some of the stuff I'm sharing, it's counter a lot to what uh, you know, my psychiatrist over the years would have advised me to do, right? It's it's counter to what are in the books. And so what I'm sharing is just my story. It's just my story. It's not, it's there's no, there's no medical advice here or anything. But what I had to do was because of these battles with my mental health, I started to see this correlation that when I was in my practice, when I was doing my daily meditation, when I was hitting the mat, when I was journaling, and I've been very consistent about those, but when I was in my practice, it allowed me to stay grounded. And when I would allow stress or overwhelm to take over the importance of my practice, I would feel myself starting to shift back into resentment, regret, overwhelm. The journey for me was coming back to center. And then once I did that, what I realized every time that negative part of me showed up that allowed me to think myself into suicidal ideations to take action on it, I despised that individual. I did not want it to be a part of my life. I didn't want to connect with it, I didn't want to acknowledge it. But when I was out on that road trip and and and and through these several years I spent in the backcountry over the past couple of years, like that that I learned that that was a part of me. Like I learned that that um that part of me that I was that that dark side, right? That dark side was it was a part of me and it was never gonna go away. And and so I I started to invite it in and love it, like love every facet of what it was teaching me and what it had taught me, and what it was actually showing me the triggers that I had to be aware of, right, in my in our healing journey. And so for me, that's one of maybe the most prominent lessons that I've learned in having a TBI and learning how to stay in my practice, but also loving that part of me that I for so long thought was trying to kill me.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 20:44

And once you integrated that part of you, did that voice quiet down?

Cameron Scott 20:50

It's crazy. It's so much to the point that so I'm building this AI company called EQ Intelligence AI. And I started it two and a half years ago. And and it was almost like for me, part of my healing journey is it has been some uh psychedelic experiences, uh, plant medicine. And I came back from a plant medicine uh uh experience, and I had a dream, and it was like this full download of what the next chapter of my life looked like. It was like I woke up and I'm like, oh, holy shit, I know exactly what I'm what I'm gonna do. I didn't understand how hard it would be. And so this journey of building an emotionally intelligent operating system for coaches and health and wellness thought leaders and to meet clients with empathy and loving kindness from that first touch point at this intersection of humanity and technology. And for me, it's I know what's so important to the people that we're in service to is like making sure that they feel felt, seen, and heard as we're trying to figure out how to automate our businesses and free up more time so we can be of service to more people. This journey for me has been part of my French, but so effing stressful. I had no idea that the universe in assigning me this task was gonna make this one of the hardest things I've ever done. And along the way, there have been like monumental stressors, financial, especially, trying to start, you know, run a startup on a bootstrapped budget. And through the stressors and through all of that stuff in the past, like in my, in my in pre-loving that, that part of me that I thought was trying to destroy me in the past, it created moments of self sabis. Like it, it literally because I was not inviting it in. And so by the by learning how to love that part of me and really like it, I say thank you to him every morning, like thank you, inviting that into my life on a daily basis to be here. And it has changed the way I operate in every single facet of my life, my relationships, my business. It doesn't mean I don't get fucking stressed. It doesn't mean that there isn't days of overwhelm and sleepless nights and the complexities of, you know, what it takes to be an online entrepreneur today and be a solopreneur and all of us, right? All the beautiful people that you invite onto your podcast, you know, we're all out here uh trying to figure out how do we touch more people, how do we impact more lives, how do we help others? And the journey is not easy. For me, having such mental health challenges on top of there's parts of me that don't work right. Like the ear doesn't, the ear doesn't hear. I mean, very, very little. The the brain damage, one of the one of the things we learned in my journey with the medications was that some of the medications I was taking, like trileptol and abilify, literally, I guess, like went to work where that scar tissue was at. And so I had a I had a doctor who put me on an anti-seizure medication that completely changed the way that the medication was working for me. In this journey of those of us who who struggle with TBIs and the mental health side effects that come with it, I don't know that there's one size fits all. Right. And so we have to kind of we have to do this dance of loving ourselves enough to explore every modality and every option until the pieces click into place that allows us to love ourselves fully, fully, and completely. And to my point with building this tech company, there are no days that there aren't overwhelm. And in when it comes to mental health, like overwhelm's a trigger. It can honestly be a major trigger in terms of how we function. Yeah. And so back to whether you're on medication or not, we have to initiate self-serving practices into our lives to take care of us, to take care of ourselves. And so, like, you know, my partner and I in the morning, we have a meditation, we have the quiet hour where we're both sitting our meditations. Um, in the middle of the day, I'm either journaling or I lay down on a bed of nails and I put my headphones on and I take like 45 minutes and I let my body, right? My mind and my body soften. I make sure that, you know, we eat healthy and we and exercise. But it's like, I know if I didn't do those things, that trigger would become explosive firepower to move me from staying on the spectrum of alignment and grounding with knowing that I have mental health issues and TB and all that stuff, to literally sliding to the other end of the spectrum where I know what's what's the potential of not managing, you know, what I know to be true and work. Yeah. Learning to love that part of me changed everything about how well it changed everything about how what happens when I put my hand on my heart. Because it's the it's the whole being, it's the whole persona of me that I've learned to love instead of the good me. Right. And running from the the what I thought was the bad me when it was just an unintegrated aspect of my journey. You know, and I know there's so many people that struggle with mental health that that's not, this isn't their story. We all have a different facet of how we ended up, where we're at, and the tools we're using to manage it.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 27:35

Yeah. And can you talk a little bit more about holotrophic breath work? Because I had always heard of it and I had never done it until uh last summer when you led that class. And what a fascinating experience that through breath alone we can transport ourselves to a whole different place. So I would love for you to talk about that.

Cameron Scott 28:03

Yeah, totally. Yeah, thank you. I I love it. I love breath work so much. I love breath work so much. Um I have been going to yoga for like four years, and I had gone to like, you know, I mean, my first yoga class, uh, my back was out. A person that I that handed me a cup of coffee every morning, she she handed me this cup of coffee. I was groaning in pain as I put my arm out the window at 40. Stress. I've learned my back goes out, like it's stress, number one. And it's unmanaged, it's unmanaged stress. And so she's like, you need to go to yoga. At that point in time, I was like 37. And where I grew up in Central Oregon in my teenage years, that yoga was never a word I'd ever even heard of. And I didn't, I don't even know if I heard it in college. And call my call my social circle small. But I had been going to yoga for like four years. And from the very first time I touched a mat, it just changed my life. I mean, it just like it just the connection to body and breath. And so I started to generate new relationships in that community of yogis on a daily basis, you know, connecting to their body and their breath and and seeing all of us, releasing these emotions on the mat. And so one of my yoga teachers one night, I remember it was like an evening. Um, I I was I was single, living, you know, three-bedroom, I was running my business out of my construction business out of my house. And I get this text that she's like, my best friend, JP, is coming to Ben tomorrow night to do a breath work. You need to go. Which, which coming from my yoga teacher basically means she knows what's going on and I need to go, right? So I didn't do any research. I'd never done breath work other than what they said to do and and and vinyasa yoga and shavasana. That was it. So I thought we were gonna go and sit in lotus pose and and do some simple breathing. Holy shit! I walked into this room. I walked into this room, and you know, um, immediately like the energy felt different. And and and the teacher John Paul, great guy, just a beautiful human. He um he delivers this class. And you he had us lay down, lay down on the mat, put our blindfolds on. I remember, you know, I didn't understand why we would need to bring like a tissue and and some of these subsidiary things that he had on his list for for simple breathing. I had the most transformational, like the most yoga like touched me in beautiful, deep ways. This this this um transformational breath work, it literally it blew it blew doors wide open in me in a single session, to your point, that that was the most transformational experiences I'd ever had in any way, shape, or form in my healing journey before that and probably even up to now. Massively transformational for me. And and when it was done, you know, I had snot, and I mean, I'm I mean, just I was just covered, I was just roars, like just screaming. He had a screaming, and I mean, stuff was just coming out. And when that class was over, um, you know, he shared, I have a I have a uh a track you can buy on, I think back then it was iTunes. So I went home that night and I downloaded it, and I did that breath work every morning. I did, I got up at 3:30, I did breath work. I then uh sat in meditation for 30 minutes. At that point in time, I was also working with Rolf Gates, and then I journaled for 30 minutes, and then I drove to yoga and I did that every day for 90 days. Completely like altered the trajectory in the course of my life. I bet. So during that, during that process of becoming deeply aware, like how many layers of shit, you know, over the years of of being a human in this third-dimensional experience, like how many layers of of trauma and dense negative energies were stuck inside of me that every time I did a breathwork, I mean, it just came out. Um so I was I was blessed to, you know, uh, that was in his early days of being a teacher as well. And so, you know, he and I started connecting, started communicating, and um, he invited me to his first teacher training class. I think it was in 2016. And I think there was only like 10 or 12 of us. And um, and so I went, got certified by John Paul Crimi for transformational breath work. And I uh one of the highlights, one of the highlights of my healing modality was, and it wasn't to be a teacher, it was just to learn like the deeper nuances of how truly the breath affects the body in just about every single dimension that we exist in, and its impact to heal us at every dimension we exist in. Um and so I started a company in Bendorgan called Soul Roar Breath Work with a couple I had an energy healer, uh yoga teacher, as well as they were each uh breath work instructors. So we had this really cool like breath work, uh weekly breath work experience. What I've learned over the years and delivering these really transformational experiences from classes to retreats to places like beautiful Panamaya and Belize, and uh as a lead backcountry guide on the Middle Fork almost every trip to you know, some some of the most successful people in the entrepreneurial world in the world would come down the river with us, and I would do these breathwork um sessions on the banks of the Middle Fork. Deep breath work is probably the most roto routerine way to get in there. And, you know, I always say you don't have to name it, but but setting the intention to let go of all the shit that we're carrying on a daily basis, whether it's childhood traumas, childhood programming, at the heart of everything is this little kid inside of us that wants to be love and seen and felt and heard. And along the way, we have the traumas and the stories and the ways that we're programmed to show up that layer on top of that. And so this transformational breath work, like to be able to get in and just in a scene, like to your point, in 20 minutes, like holy shit, how is that even possible? Like, how's that possible, right? But what also makes it so powerful is the breath does an amazing job of clearing that density, that dense stuff we carry, that we don't even know we're carrying it. I think I most of us we don't, we don't know we're carrying it. We're so stuck up here. Like, what's wrong with me? What's wrong with me? And yet when we do the deep breath work, we realize when that when that breath quiets this, every single trigger that kick starts this into overwhelm and stress and anxiety and and and self-defeating belief patterns stems from the stuff that lives down wherever we can stuff it in our beingness. And that transformational breath work rips it right out of us. Yeah. What makes it even so much more powerful is the heart-opening moments at the end. And those heart-opening moments at the end to remember the power inside of us when it comes to setting goals and what it felt like to accomplish those goals, to call in all the things we're grateful for in our lives and bring it into our heart, to call in and remember all the love we have for all the people and to be reminded that we're the most important part of that journey of loving ourselves. To be able to love another, we have to be able to love ourselves, right? And so that breath work, it's like it, it, it, it rotorooters, it clears out all of that dark, heavy energy. And then literally we get to finish it off with love and gratitude. And it's like we get up off the mat and we feel like butterflies. Like we just feel like, you know, and you do that, you do that consistently for a period of time, and you begin to realize like nothing up here is even true. Nothing that happens up here is true. It's what happens here, right? In our heart. Like, this is what's true. And so that breathwork allows us to reconnect to truth every single time. I mean, if you do it, if you put the eye mask on and you put the headphones on. I actually have you can go to my uh coaching website and you can buy um breathwork tracks, financial abundance, uh, self-worth, love and gratitude, right? And so you can just lay down and put the headphones on and and um let it go.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 36:58

Excellent. Well, I will definitely be sharing that. And so talk a little bit more about because you said you have your you have your coaching business, but then you've got this AI tool that's been all consuming for the last two years. Where are you at with that after two years of very hard work?

Cameron Scott 37:18

Yeah. Yeah. So again, you know, for for all the entrepreneurs out there, especially if you're like in in in solopreneur, startup, startup mode, bringing, bringing something from your heart to to life. Here's another thing I've learned. And this has to do with mental health. Again, it's like, I don't know about the rest of the world out there, but I do know that that mental health exists on a very, well, you can call it a very uh sharp, double-edged part of life or a very fast-moving spectrum, right? You can be really well one day and not so well the next day. You can be on fire by by 9 a.m. and deadbeat tired and want to just say fuck it to everything and by four. This journey of building this company has been so overwhelmingly hard. And there's also this concept, and you're one of them, like you are such a light warrior and a and a spiritual entrepreneur. And there's so many of us coming into the marketplace right now as spiritual entrepreneurs to try to bring light to the world. There's a lot of there's a lot of chaos going on out there that, you know, we're trying to do our best to shine our light, to offer a product to be of service to the greatest good. And we can start this journey and think we're gonna work with all the people that are just like us and wanna be of service and want to be honest and want to do the best thing and want to have the most viable, structured, you know, win-win type partnerships. And it has not been that way for me. It has been a very like, I've had a development company that I contracted with that failed me miserably and cost me a significant amount of time and money. And also mental health, like mental health was part of like, oh my God, I just like so hard. So the journey to build an emotionally intelligent AI system to communicate to coaches, uh, to communicate to coaches' clients, to service providers' clients. My partner is one of the top salespeople, the top salesperson for Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi in the mastermind.com community. And so I get to listen to calls every day. We both work from home. And the world over, everybody out there, the world over, everybody is struggling in this online environment with very, very similar things. How do we acquire more clients effectively, but also without having to set aside 10, 15 hours a week in discovery calls to onboard those clients into our environment? How do we onboard clients effectively in an automated process that allows them to feel felt, seen, and heard during that onboarding engagement into our ecosystem so that when we have the call with them, we have all of the information, they have it, we have it, we connect with empowered human connection. And then how do we retain our clients in this environment when we're not directly connected with them in a Zoom session like this? And then how do we ascend them through our value ladder? So that was kind of the underlying principle of bringing EQAI to life while still trying to figure out how to train AI to speak in the emotional contextual awareness of empathy and loving kindness from the very first touch point. And part of my desire to do this was as a 50-year-old man who grew up kind of in sheltered bend, Oregon, and then found most of his time out in the wilds. When I, you know, when I when I was in airports and when I'm traveling, forgive me, but it's like everybody is face down in this.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 41:04

Right. And for listeners, you're holding up your phone.

Cameron Scott 41:07

Exactly. The world over, if they have it, their faces in. And and no judgment, no judgment. Because if I have it, I'm I'm often there too. What I realized was it's like this technology, how can we integrate it into our lives with the intention for it to be of service to us, for it to help us, to help our businesses, to help, to help the people that are looking for help from us to help transform their lives on this on this journey while we're interfacing with this technology. And so EQAI, EQ Intelligence AI, was born from that passion, from all of these lived experiences behind me as an entrepreneur and a breathwork teacher and a life coach. And, you know, all of these things that I've been so blessed to do in my journey was for some reason or another, with no tech background whatsoever. It's taken me two years to bring a product to market that we're launching April 1st.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 42:06

Oh, wow. Okay. You have a launch date.

Cameron Scott 42:09

Yeah, we have a launch date. And and so April 1st, EQ Intelligence AI comes online. We're gonna onboard our first um, your your name's your name's on the list. Yes. We're gonna onboard our first uh 10 or 12 clients and coaches and make sure that the that the product is functioning the way I know it already is. I'm so proud of it. Like it's been such a it's been such a a gift to like when we want to be of service, like it requires us to open our heart, right? It requires us to really step forward and like create something from the heart, and yet have to set up boundaries all around the perimeter so that in this uh late-stage capitalistic environment that we are currently watching crumbling at the seams, we're still able to be of service and deliver something that's of value. And EQAI was born from that. It does an excellent job. It just does an excellent job of meeting clients and this AI experience where we are Q, uh my AI partner on EQAI is named after James Bond's quartermaster, right? The intellectual, witty, fun. And so Q at EQAI, you can go and converse with Q and he'll literally walk you through how EQAI will help transform your business. And then you take an assessment, and that assessment then leads to call to actions to book or purchase a program, right? So what we did right there was is we figured out how to, we we acquired, uh, we figured out how to do the acquisition from the very first touch point with kindness and empathy and and motivation and making making clients who are using this technology to find the solutions in their life, allowing them to be felt, seen, and heard. Because now I know when I meet with you on the Book of Discovery call, I know exactly what your challenges are, your pain points, you know, what what what what what's holding you up in your business. And so I get to get on the phone with you and just be like, hey, wow, we got so much cool shit to talk about today. Here's exactly how, right, my platform's going to ensure that you meet your transformational goals. And then along the way, what EQAI does is it is it supports, you know, uh service providers is follow-ups. As service providers, like we only have so much time in the day. And so whether we're whether we're doing one-on-ones like this or one-to-manies, we only have so many hours where we can actually connect with our clients to deliver the human experience of transformation. The rest of the time, we have to do automated work. We have to do administrative work. The reason I got frustrated in my life coaching business was because I was spending 27 hours a week doing administrative tasks, and I only had 13 hours of the other available time. I had to be a life coach. So, from that lived experience, like we're automating every single thing we can in the back end to manage clients so that coaches can touch more clients. That's what EQAI is born to do. Awesome. I'm so stoked to bring it to life April, April 1, and start reaching out and getting and getting my friends uh onboard and into the community.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 45:31

And I love it. In honor of April 1st. I'll release this episode on that day.

Cameron Scott 45:38

Yes.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 45:40

Well, amazing. So, where can people find you and your information and your EQAI and all the things?

Cameron Scott 45:49

Yeah, so uh so good to be here with you this today. Thank you so much. For EQAI, if anybody out there is interested in empowering their platform, they're offering with an emotionally intelligent ecosystem. You can find us at uh eq intelligenceai.com. For anybody out there interested in breath work, uh I have some meditation, I have some one-on-one coaching. Uh, I have a coherence codex product that we talked about at the beginning. Uh coherence, we didn't even get into that, right? Like coherence. And that can be at Cameron Scott Coaching.com. And then you can just you can just look me up on social media, Cameron Scott, and uh I should pop up there somewhere.

The Coherence Codex Inside ChatGPT

Dr. Ayla Wolf 46:33

Yeah, so so the coherence AI that you created is within Chat GPT. Explain that to me because like when I I clicked the link you sent me and I kind of you know like interacted with it a little bit, and then it said, Oh, you can add this to your sidebar. And so then all of a sudden it appeared on my chat GPT sidebar. And so I'm like, oh, this is kind of a whole like I I use I use Chat GPT scholar. That's like what I'm on primarily, but now I have this coherence uh on my sidebar too that I can tap into. So yeah, maybe just chat a little bit about that real quick.

Cameron Scott 47:07

Yeah, okay. So again, like I I tell my partner this I I've done I've done it twice now. I just built a custom GPT. Well, how I mean, how does a river guide custom home builder, you know, with no tech experience, it's all prop based. But anyway, part of my journey in well, um before I under even even understood what coherence was, like when we start something in purpose, passion, and alignment, when we move into an entrepreneurial endeavor, no matter what, like whether it's entrepreneurialism or or or or charity or whatever, like, you know, we can operate in alignment and still come slightly out of tune. It's like a guitar, right? And so we're still operating in a place of alignment as an individual pursuing parenthood, entrepreneurship, whatever. And then all of a sudden that that that chord becomes out of tune. And so, in this journey of building EQAI, um I was invited to participate in this uh elite spiritual summit a few months ago. I was in a remote uh plant dieta, and like all of this stuff happened at like the same time. And in the plant dieta, for whatever reason, in the meditation, coherence came up. It came into my like frontal lobe, like literally like coherence, coherence. And the minute it hit me, I was like, whoa, that is exactly what I'm struggling with, like on a daily basis. It's not so much that I'm not in alignment, it's that I'm I'm out of coherence. And what does that mean? And how does that look? And how and all of a sudden, I'm building up a product in my coaching, uh, my coaching platform called the Coherence Codex. And coherence, you know, coherence and incoherence, light and dark, all of the things that and that live on a spectrum, um, we can move in and out of coherence very easily throughout a day. And um, you know, a a phone call, a simple phone call at nine o'clock in the morning can can move us from what we know was coherence at 859 to what is incoherence at uh 915, right? And and and while we still might we can make incoherent decisions in a state of incoherence, and we can also make coherent decisions in a state of incoherence. And it doesn't mean that they equal each other out, it means that whatever way whatever decision we make in whatever state, our state amplifies what we're experiencing. So I build this product, I present it at the Elite Spiritual Summit, and then I wake up the next morning at like 2 a.m., isotogenious, I'm like, what would it be like if I actually built a GPT so that my clients, instead of needing to check in with me, like to talk, you know, if they're struggling, like, what if what if I just built this thing that like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so I sat down and over an eight-hour period of time, like designed this coherence codex GPT that literally allows us to like click on the sidebar, type in like, I just had a phone call, or I'm feeling overwhelmed, or or I have a big business decision that I'm making, or whatever. And the objective behind the the codex is to like remind us to pause. And again, you know, somebody might argue, well, why don't you just pause? Well, it's easy to pause and do nothing. Sometimes we actually need to pause and take a break, take a breath to realize like, am I pursuing a decision that's going to lead me into more incoherence? And so, like in this state of coherent or coherence, there's there's capacity, structure, and um direction. So direction is like, are we making decisions that are taking us out of alignment, out of coherence, life, business, health, wealth, love, relationship, whatever it might be? Because if we're making those decisions, it actually meant that the that we're moving out of coherence in the weight of having made the decision, right? So the cue was before we made the decision, what was the trigger? Were we overwhelmed, were we stressed, did we not sleep well? What's taking us out of truth, alignment into making a decision that's taking us out of coherence? And then, like once we're, once we're feeding that vehicle of incoherence, it actually becomes the decision has a weight to it. It impacts our structure, whether it's finances, relationship, whatever. And so this coherence codex is the opportunity like to literally, like just for five minutes in the morning or in the evening, like just sit down and and check in. And it's you can have, you know, multiple, you can have actually multiple topics going where one might be relationship. I mean, because trust me, we all got a lot of shit going on, right? So one might be relationship, one might be your business, one might be, you know, an idea. And all of those different things can impact our ability to operate in this state of coherence.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 52:34

Yeah. And my, you know, my experience, I think I was surprised when I kind of presented it with the issue I was struggling with was that it gave me a very small action step of just pick one aspect that is like of, you know, operating your day-to-day business that you just really don't like doing, and find one thing that you could maybe delegate. And sometimes coaching, you know, you don't ask someone, just be like, oh, you need to make a hundred dramatic changes today, right? It's like, no, we need to like atomic habits, right?

Cameron Scott 53:08

Like we gotta just little steps make big, big differences.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 53:11

Yeah, little steps just change that trajectory a little bit, just like what I was saying earlier about I almost want to just quit teaching entirely only because I was sick of like having to hand out certificates and deal with people not being able to access videos by just handing all of that off and changing the platform. All of a sudden I fell in love with teaching again because I just got I got rid of all the things I didn't want to do that I shouldn't have been doing.

Cameron Scott 53:39

The administrative.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 53:40

Yeah, yeah.

Small Daily Steps That Keep You Well

Cameron Scott 53:41

Yeah, that administrative aspect, right? Um, and and and that's another thing too. Like, you know, back to like I almost am discovering like everything I do in my life anymore, it is literally it's full circle to mental health. Mental health, whether we have TBIs or not, whether we've had concussions or not, whether we've, you know, whether we've healed all of the generational traumas and childhood traumas or not, in today's overwhelming um framework of information that we are in, you know, it just, I mean, literally bombarded with every time we do turn on the technology, whether it's the radio or the news, I mean, I don't read or look at any of that, but the amount of information is overwhelming and it's designed to keep us mentally unhealthy. And so we cannot solve all of those problems with one step. We cannot fix everything that's wrong with us with one modality. We cannot fix our mental health issues with one pill or one journal writing or one thing. What we can do is be very aware that progress takes time. There's no such thing as perfection, and it's the little things we do every day in service to ourselves, like setting aside that 15 minutes to write, setting aside that five minutes to check in with the Coherence Codex, and just do it. Or or you know, whatever it might be. Then it's also like taking a break in the middle of the day, making sure we're getting our water, making like we have to do these little things. There's no one hour of the day or one event that's like gonna fix everything. So it's little these little, little steps and five minutes here, 10 minutes there throughout the day that allow us to maximize the opportunity to be as mentally healthy as we can while also understanding we're never, uh none of us are ever gonna be not sad, not mad, not overwhelmed, not, you know, whatever, whatever it is. Like life still happens whether you're mentally healthy or not. Life still happens whether you have a practice or not. Life still happens when you have a business or not. And life was not designed for us to experience it in a state of ease. It was actually designed for us to experience it in a state of all that it is. The heart, the overwhelm, the loss, the love, the financial challenges, the whatever like is coming to us that are in our lives is meant to be of service to us. Whether it's good or bad, as hard as that might be to digest at times, especially when we're in a state of poor mental health. But those little things, those little check-ins every day, like learning to love ourselves fully, put your hand on your heart, take a deep breath. Remember who in the fuck you are. You matter, your your voice matters, your story matters, your love to this world matters. We need you. All of you.

Dr. Ayla Wolf 57:04

What a great way to end the conversation. It's a powerful note.

Cameron Scott 57:09

Thank you. Yes. So it's it was awesome to be here. Thank you so much.

Where To Find Cameron Plus Disclaimer

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