SPEAKER_00
0:00
But
this
is
the
the
gentleman
on
the
left,
that's
Matavi
Yoseto,
that's
another
photo
from
the
Solf
Collection.
Very
cool
photo.
I
think
um
there's
been
a
big
gathering
at
Mulligan
and
uh
he's
walking
away
uh
under
the
sunshade
of
an
umbrella.
Really
cool
photo.
Hands
up
from
the
roof
to
the
club,
let's
go.
We
go
wave
and
the
way
the
way
later
I
later
right
on
night.
The
guy
sitting
lower
right
is
um
a
gentleman
who
later
went
on
to
have
the
Mata
Afa
title.
Uh
and
um
and
a
collection
of
others
on
one
of
the
ships,
and
the
German
admiral
sitting
there
uh
sort
of
in
the
middle,
holding
the
hand
of
the
Salmon
lady.
Um
he
he
actually
fell
in
love
with
her.
We've
got
another
photo
of
him
staring
longingly
at
her
um
with
his
arm
around
her
and
holding
her
hand.
His
name
was
von
Kerper,
and
he
seemed
to
have
really
fallen
in
love
with
this
this
woman
whose
identity
I
don't
know.
SPEAKER_01
1:16
I
noticed
that
there
are
numbers
placed
on
each
of
the
only
on
a
few
of
them.
So
is
it
just
for
um
uh
labeling
who
they
are
then?
SPEAKER_00
1:26
Yes.
Yes,
um
I
I
I
think
Mrs.
Solf
or
Wilhelm
Solf,
the
governor,
had
had
written
in
pencil
or
something
on
some
of
these
people
and
must
have
indexed
them
somewhere.
You
can
see
on
in
the
middle
row
on
the
left
uh
some
on
gentlemen
with
I
think
number
seven
written
on
him,
and
that
was
Afamar
Sanamola
being
able
to
identify
him,
who
was
a
translator
and
a
personal
assistant
to
uh
the
German
governors
and
um
an
extraordinary
administrator,
actually.
Uh
there
were
there
were
four
or
five
or
six
or
seven
salmons
who
were
very
had
very
responsible
positions
in
the
German
administration,
and
uh
uh
Afamassonga
was
one
of
them.
SPEAKER_01
2:15
Wow.
There's
I
noticed
the
the
soldier
on
the
top
is
holding
someone's
baby.
SPEAKER_00
2:21
Yes,
that's
true.
A
lot
of
these
photos,
the
Germans
wanted
to
hold
on
to
the
babies
because
I
mean
it's
a
pretty
restricted
life
on
uh
and
there's
no
family
life
on
board
uh
on
on
board
these
naval
ships.
So
these
guys
really
enjoyed
mixing
with
the
locals.
And
that's
Mrs.
Solf
sitting
in
the
second
row
with
a
white
blouse
on.
SPEAKER_01
2:42
Mataafa
is
mostly
seen
with
the
same
woman
uh
every
time.
SPEAKER_00
2:47
And
so
Yeah,
well,
um
he
got
the
Mataafa
title,
this
gentleman,
um,
uh
in
about
1918,
so
he
didn't
have
it
at
the
time
this
photo
was
taken,
though
he
was
a
senior
uh
Ali
uh
socially
uh
and
he
was
from
Falifar.
SPEAKER_01
3:08
Is
this
the
same
Mataafa
Yosefo?
SPEAKER_00
3:12
No,
no,
um
um
well
Yosefo
died
in
about
nineteen
twelve,
nineteen
eleven.
Okay
um
and
then
another
there
was
another
person
who
succeeded
to
the
title,
and
um
then
this
this
man
uh
succeeded
to
it
in
about
nineteen
eighteen.
SPEAKER_01
3:32
Oh,
that's
good
to
know
so
that
people
are
not
mixed
up
with
the
different
identities,
you
know.
SPEAKER_00
3:36
Sure,
sure.
No,
that's
that's
not
Matafe
Yosefal.
SPEAKER_01
3:39
Okay.
SPEAKER_00
3:40
But
this
is
the
the
gentleman
on
the
left,
that's
Matahafa
Yosefal.
That's
another
photo
from
the
the
Solf
collection.
Very
cool
photo.
I
think
um
there's
been
a
big
gathering
at
Mullinol
and
uh
he's
walking
away
uh
under
the
sunshade
of
an
umbrella.
Really
cool
photo.
