The Raw Dog Food Truth

Freezer Fails, Food Safety, and Functional Mushrooms for Dogs

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When disaster strikes and your freezer fails, what happens to all that expensive raw dog food? Nutritionist Brian tackles this common raw feeder nightmare with refreshing practicality, explaining why our modern food safety paranoia doesn't apply to our canine companions. "There are no freezers in the wild," he reminds us, sharing his experience of feeding slightly thawed food without issues and explaining the substantial margin of error that exists before raw food truly becomes dangerous.

The conversation shifts to a question that plagues many pet parents: "What should I add to my dog's food?" Brian cuts through the marketing hype, explaining why a properly formulated raw diet already provides complete nutrition without fancy additions. While there's nothing wrong with adding whole food extras like eggs or sardines, understanding the difference between beneficial additions versus necessities can save both money and unnecessary worry.

For those genuinely seeking powerful nutritional boosters, medicinal mushrooms emerge as the episode's star recommendation. These ancient healing powerhouses have supported health for thousands of years, offering benefits from immune resilience to cognitive support. The hosts explore specific varieties like reishi (the "mushroom of immortality"), turkey tail, chaga, and lion's mane, explaining how each supports different aspects of canine health from respiratory function to digestive wellness.

Practical advice abounds, from identifying truly spoiled food to incorporating mushroom supplements effectively through rotation and "pulsing." The episode even tackles the dangers of wild mushrooms versus the safety of commercially prepared supplements, providing a comprehensive guide to this often-overlooked nutritional powerhouse.

For raw feeders seeking both reassurance during emergencies and advanced knowledge to optimize their dog's diet, this episode delivers actionable wisdom that cuts through fear and marketing hype to focus on what truly matters—your dog's biological needs and wellbeing.

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Speaker 1:

Oh snap, well, hello, raw feeders. I'm Didi Mercer Moffitt, ceo of a raw dog food and company. We're your pets, health is our business and we're friends, like my friend and brand of us, top nutritionist extraordinaire. Yeah, brian, you don't let friends feed kibble, do you? Absolutely not? What about when your freezer goes out? Because didn't your freezer go out this? Hey, I don't you know your freezer went out. What happened, and was it outside or inside?

Speaker 2:

uh, so it's, uh, it's one of my garage freezers and I noticed it because the, the organs that I had in there were thought the, the funny thing is it, I guess it technically didn't go out because it's still running, it's just not cooling, no, and so I think that's that that contributed to the delay, because when I'd open it up, the light came on and um, you know, the, the big five pound rolls were still frozen, solid. It was just the. When I grabbed some organs, I wasop. That's not good, um, so, but um, but yeah, um, you know, got to get a new freezer and um, it was one of the.

Speaker 2:

You know, I got to thinking that, uh, uh, you know how that kind of situation can probably be pretty panic inducing for some pet parents. Sure, you know, with the, with the food and everything, and, and I would say that, you know, this is why we always talk about, like, how dogs are designed to eat raw food and how they're made Um, because the, the food that's in there is still good, um, you know, now, I mean, I discovered it after, you know, probably a day or something like that, or maybe not even that long, so we're not talking about like an extended period of time or um, anything like that. But you know, I got my food out of there and I'm not super worried about the rest of the food in there. Um, you know, I'll get it into the new freezer as soon as it's cool and uh, and we'll go along, because you know my dogs are not me.

Speaker 2:

Um, there's no, there's no freezers, there's no refrigerators in the wild. So a couple hours or half a day where that wasn't in complete frozen conditions, it doesn't ruin the food. I hope that people aren't out there throwing away food because they forgot it in their car for a couple hours or something like that. There's a margin for error when it comes to this food.

Speaker 1:

It's not one of those things where food doesn't instantly go bad. No, it's all the bacteria that crawls up on there and it's going to kill them. I'm just like I mean okay. So people would say, well, what is the margin of error? Where would you say I'm not going to feed it? At what point would you say, nah, I'm probably just going to toss that, Start over would you say, nah, I'm probably just going to toss that, start over.

Speaker 2:

I would, I mean smell, you know, I, I, I think it's one of those things like spoiled meat and things like that is to me it's like you know it when you see it. I don't know if I could describe like what I would think. Um, you know, uh, you know, bad food was, um, you know, especially for you know, especially for my dogs but, brian a lot of people think that tripe is spoiled.

Speaker 1:

And so if you say, well, you know, when you see it, people are like why it's rancid. Well, that's a good word that describes how it smells. It smells. Some people say like a port-a-potty, Some people say, you know rancid. So I think I don't know, I don't know. We as humans get grossed out. Obviously dogs don't know. I don't know. We as humans get grossed out, Obviously dogs don't, right. Because they eat vomit and they poop, right. There's a lot of dogs out there Think about this there's a lot of dogs out there that have corophagia, right. So that's where they just eat poop, or is that, you know, Pico or whatever? And they're not dead. And I'm wondering why we don't make that connection. It's like there are, or they wouldn't sell, the stuff that supposedly makes them stop eating it, which I've never really seen that work. But there are some dogs that literally just eat a bunch of shit, Literally.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, and I like, like I said, it's hard for me to answer that question about you know, because I mean I've been doing this for almost seven years and I don't think that I've ever thrown out any food. Years and I don't think that I've ever thrown out any food?

Speaker 1:

no, as a matter of fact we have used the food, that people say that they can't feed their dogs because there's something wrong with them.

Speaker 2:

We're like okie doke well, we're not going to sell it, so just bring them back and we'll feed it to our dogs and I, and I have definitely done some, you know, non-advisable things. I mean, I've, I've, I've left food in my car overnight in the middle of summer, yep.

Speaker 2:

Um and I've just I put it back in the freezer and put it back in the rotation and and the dogs have been fine. Um, so I don't know, I guess it's just one of those confidence things that comes with time. Um, that, uh, you know, you just you get to know your dogs and and what they can handle, and, um, you know, and I will say, you know, when it comes to, you know, food gets blamed for a lot of things, but it's rarely ever the food it's, it's something else. You know, if your dog gets sick because they ate some food that maybe sat out on the counter longer than you would have liked, there's something going on in them that their protection mechanisms are down right. You know, and, and that's. You can't blame the food. Yeah, um, you know, because a healthy dog would have ate that food and been fine.

Speaker 1:

So you know and that's that's good advice for folks that get things shipped okay. So when you get things shipped right and people are really worried, get things shipped right and people are really worried, oh my gosh, I'm afraid it's going to be totally thought out. Rarely has it ever been totally thought out right. It's. It's still cold and even you know a lot of different raw companies out there will say your food's fine if it's cold. But I think people can make things up in their head and it frightens them so they toss it. But that's good food, good money that you're tossing out, so good for you. Did you get a new freezer?

Speaker 2:

I did so all is well. We're back in business.

Speaker 1:

How old was that freezer?

Speaker 2:

Five years.

Speaker 1:

That's it.

Speaker 2:

Very disappointed. Five years, yeah. And you know, the funny thing is is you go to the appliance store and you know you tell them you're like, hey, I need to replace this, and it was X number of years or whatever. And they always nod and they're like, yeah, that's about right. And I'm like, then why does it cost this much? You know, if, if you're telling me I have to replace this every five years, then it needs to cost about half of what you're charging, and then I'll, and then I'll gladly replace it every five years. Right, but you know stuff is um, you know refrigerators, you know $3,000 and you know, and the guy at Home Depot I remember one time told me that fridges now are, you know, 10 years if you're lucky.

Speaker 1:

You know what? I was walking through Homeot a couple of days ago and this lady the stalker. She said hey, she wanted to talk to somebody. I was like looking around, she was like talking to me. I said yeah. She said I gotta show you something. She said you see these garbage bags right here. She said they used to be 8.9595 for $55. She scanned the new ones. She goes these are the new ones, what do you see? I was like I don't know, what do I see? She said there's only 50 in here, there's five less and it's a dollar more. I said yes, ma'am, that's what we call shrinkflation. She was so mad. It was Procter Gamble. She's I'll never buy from Procter and Gamble again, I know. I know, I get it, I get it, I get it. So, brian, what's the strangest question that you've been asked this week, being a nutritionist?

Speaker 2:

Oh gosh, being a nutritionist, oh gosh, um, I actually don't think I've been asked anything really strange. I would say yeah, I mean it's not a strange question, but a very popular question is what can I add to my dog's food, your finger? Popular question is what can I add to my dog's food, um, your finger? And I don't. I get the feel. I get the feeling that people are just there. They just they can't process that the food is complete and has everything that that you need, and they just they want to add something to it. They're like don't I need a topper?

Speaker 1:

You know don't don't, don't.

Speaker 2:

I need some Dr Harvey's Okay.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm going to say no on that one, you know.

Speaker 2:

And so you know, just, I don't know it, I, I don't know if it just doesn't look like it's enough or or anything like that, but um, you know, I love to add things to my dog's food, you know, and, and we encourage people to add stuff we talk about. You know eggs and tripe and you know fish and you know things like that. You know have fun. You know mix it up and you know you got some. You know you got some leftover broccoli stocks that you, you know. I mean I don't know who wants to eat the. I hate the broccoli stalks. I'll just eat the tops but I won't eat the stalks.

Speaker 2:

You know, throw those things in the bowl. I mean that's. You know that's great, but you know there's there's a difference between benefit and a necessity. You know there's nothing that you need to add to your dog's bowl If you're feeding a species appropriate diet, like what, like what we sell, um, there's nothing that you need to add. Um, but there's things that you can that are benefit, but they're not. You know they're not going to make a difference. You know they're. They're not making up for anything that's missing, and I think people need to understand that distinction.

Speaker 1:

Well, let me, let me give you and I go ahead.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna say that I think a lot of a lot of these companies that are out that do toppers, and you know, people, that that kind of fall for that marketing and stuff like that that stuff is being added to make up for what's missing from the species-appropriate part of the diet Meat, bones, organ and fat. That's what you need. That's what you need. So, you know, let's concentrate on meeting those needs before we start worrying about what, what else we can throw in the bowl.

Speaker 2:

You know, I think a lot of pet parents, when they're feeding their, when they're feeding their dogs, they're they're more concerned with the color of the drapes than you know pour in the foundation of the house, and so, you know, let's make sure, let's make sure that we're getting everything they need, and then we can have fun adding, you know, other stuff in there. You know, as long as it's whole food, you know real food. You know, add it in. And and I think that you know, one of the great things that you can add in if you're really looking for something is mushrooms, and we're going to talk about that in just one second.

Speaker 1:

But I want to ask you this question really quick, right, I'm going to read you this recipe, okay, and I want you to tell me in this recipe how you might change it up to make it even healthier and easier.

Speaker 1:

But again, this is a company that does a little magic and and maybe we need to create some magic, meaning we need to create all these things that you can add to your dog's food, because people love that and we, we tell them that all the time, but they still want to add, okay, um, but if you're, but if you are someone that wants to, um, save some money and you want to make sure that your dog is getting everything that they need from the food, then that's what we can do for you right here at rawdogfoodandcompanycom. But, brian, here is this recipe Okay, beef, and then tripe liver, kidneys, spleen, canned pink salmon, bone meal, canned boiled oysters and raw sunflower seeds. What do you think about that? Because I saw this and it's as you know. They say well, this is a complete and balanced, and they make it sound really kind of difficult. But how else would you, we, we, we pretty much have this right here at raw dog food and company. What is it?

Speaker 2:

yeah, they were. I mean, that was a rocking recipe, right up to the canned pink salmon, um. So yeah, I think, everything from the salmon on down, get it out of here. So we're going to take out from this recipe, we're going to take of here.

Speaker 1:

So we're going to take out from this recipe? We're going to take out the salmon, we're going to take out the bone meal, we're going to take out the boiled oysters and raw sunflower seeds. What do you want to? What else you want to put in there?

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a sardine in there and then I'm going to throw in a duck head or a duck wing. You know some raw, meaty bone that my dog can. You know, get some enrichment and get some of the instinctual behaviors out by. You know rip tearing and shredding at a bone at a bone.

Speaker 1:

So, basically, this is our beef and tripe recipe, minus those four things that you talked about, that you don't need, and just add a sardine, as we love to add, and add a duck head or chicken wing how about a chicken foot? Because what we're doing is we're getting the real bone in that right, and we're getting our omega-3s from the fish real fish with real bone. But this is what these companies do. They do these calculations and they make it really difficult and I don't know. I think in today's world people don't have time for these big, long spreadsheets. So let's think it out, let's make it simple, and that's what Brian can do for you right here at raw dog food and companycom. All right, let's talk about mushrooms, brian. Why do you like them? What up with the mushrooms, man?

Speaker 2:

Um, I like mushrooms because mushrooms have been healing people for thousands of years. They, you know, they're rooted in traditional Chinese medicine. I was reading something the other day that was talking about how the the medicinal properties of mushrooms are in almost every like modern day pharmaceutical. But they can't, you know they can't patent mushrooms. You know you can't. You know a company can't come out and you know, grab mushrooms and patent them and sell them. So these pharmaceutical companies are taking components of things like mushrooms and herbs and plants and things like that. They're taking bits and pieces of them and they're putting them into a pill and slapping a patent on them. Um, and so it's like, why not it? It's? It's the same as what we were just talking about with that recipe. You know, it's like why use bone meal when you can just use real bone?

Speaker 1:

um, because the fake stuff. The fake stuff is just as good as the real stuff and if you and if you don't agree, you're racist.

Speaker 2:

I'm just so yeah, so I mean, I think, uh, you know, I think mushrooms are, um, you know mushrooms are great and they, you know they have so many benefits, benefits. And again, if you're, if you're really looking for something to add to your dog's bowl, if you're really set on you know I don't think they're getting enough or they need some sort of boost, then yeah, let's add some mushrooms in there. You know, some of the some of the benefits of mushrooms is immune resilience, brain and nerve function. They support that. They manage oxidative stress. They help maintain the gut flora and healthy digestion, encourage skin and coat vitality and promote calm demeanor during stressful events.

Speaker 2:

I need them, I need mushrooms in my life, you know who wouldn't want any of those things for their dog, you know? And so, yeah, I think that you know. I think mushrooms are a great addition and they're easy. And we make it even easier because we have brought in some mushroom products from MycoDog, which is a really good company out there doing a lot of great things in the mushroom world, and, yeah, these products are exciting.

Speaker 1:

So do you know that the name for reishi mushrooms is the mushroom of immortality? It's the mushroom of immortality, the mushroom. It's the mushroom of immortality. That's in traditional chinese medicine.

Speaker 2:

So I've seen it as uh, I've seen it as the mushroom of longevity. That's what I've seen.

Speaker 1:

But there you go. Yeah, it's the same thing immortality longevity.

Speaker 2:

um, yep, yeah, reishi is one of those, uh, one of those king of the mushrooms out there, and you?

Speaker 2:

know, turkey tail is another one. Yeah, that, uh, you know, um, you know, and mushrooms have been, um, you know, historically they have. All the uses that I see for a lot of the mushrooms point to using them to support your dog as they get older and, um, you know, whether they're dealing, you know, the onset of doggy dementia, you know, or they're not showing any signs and you just want to support them as they get older.

Speaker 1:

You know mushrooms are a great way to do that and there are some deadly mushrooms out there, guys, and Death Cap is one of them. Death Cap, as the name says, death Cap. And then there's another one called Destroying Angel. I don't know about this one, but one of the reasons I know about Death Cap is because I had listened to a podcast on the mushroom killer and she basically went out and foraged and this was in I don't know if it was in the uk or was in australia or someplace like that, maybe it's in australia and she went out and foraged and called her husband's family over, uh base is. She was mad at her husband, mad at his parents. Basically she killed, like I think, um four people put them in the food, killed them.

Speaker 1:

So, long story short, don't make sure that that you don't. You don't uh it. Just give your dog any mushroom that is wild out there, because there are some that are very, very uh, neurotoxic and um you you may think that they're all good, but they aren't all good. So stay with some that's already been formulated, already been um, uh proven, like the ones we have for micro dog and also the ones that we have from adored Beast and Four Leaf Rovers. We have quite an array of mushrooms right here at Raw Dog Food and Company.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was just going to say that's a really good point. I get some mushrooms in my lawn, especially after it rains. The white ones, yep, and pretty impressive too. And you know I hope that people aren't tempted to. You know I always get rid of them because I don't want.

Speaker 2:

You know not only my dogs, but you know people walking their dogs through the neighborhood. I mean, we know how dogs like to put things in their mouth, right, and you know. So that's a good tip about you know being careful, which is you know why it's good to work with. You know work with somebody who's done all the work, the hard work for you. You know, because you know none of the mushrooms that we have in the store you know are going to be a problem for your dog or a problem even for you. These can be taken by humans as well.

Speaker 2:

That also leads to another point too, that the mushrooms that you find in the store are all going to be safe for your dog. So if you wanted to give your dog some shiitake mushrooms that you sauteed up or something assuming that you're not doing it in a lot of butter or things like that those are all perfectly safe for your dog as well. Just remember that mushrooms, like vegetables, your dog needs well. Just remember that mushrooms, like you know vegetables, your dog needs help breaking them down, so don't give them to them raw. You got to, you got to cook them up a little bit, you got to saute them, you know something like that, and then and then they're able to digest them.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, right. And we do have the ones that are in powder form that you can add to the raw food, and then we also have the ones that are in liquid form. Now on the liquid form ones like the turkey tail, and I believe it's the reishi, is it no? Chaga, Turkey tail? No, it's the chaga. And the which ones are the liquid forms?

Speaker 2:

again, so for the single mushroom extracts we have turkey tail and chaga from Adored Beast, and then we've just brought in lion's mane and reishi from MycoDog, so we've got all four now.

Speaker 1:

Um and uh, just a, a different company on the lion's mane and reishi now, if you have the liquid mushrooms, you just go ahead and drop them right in the mouth, or do you put it in the food?

Speaker 2:

I just put it in the food. I just put it in the food, Okay, Yep, Yep, that's the, that's the easiest way. Um and uh, it's just going to go through the digestive system and um, you know, um, you, you could put them right in the mouth if you wanted, Um, but uh, you know, with something like reishi. Reishi is pretty bitter.

Speaker 1:

Um, but uh, you know with something like Reishi.

Speaker 2:

Reishi is pretty bitter, um, and so I don't think your dog um he he may not like you as well as he liked you before. Uh, if you shoot some, if you shoot some Reishi straight into his mouth, so, um, so, probably best to uh, best to mix it up in the food. Um and uh and food, and let them get it that way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. And again, guys, let's make sure that we get those mushrooms out of the lawn. Don't let your dog eat those. Now, some of them aren't going to be toxic, aren't going to be dangerous, but we don't want to take that chance, right? So I would just steer clear of any of those. You can always get yourself a. You can just search for it online and get pictures of what do toxic mushrooms in the yard look like and then just get rid of those. Um, they're not going to hurt your grass or anything like that, but it could be toxic to a cat or a, a dog.

Speaker 1:

Um, but again, we want you to add things that have the biggest bang for the buck. The biggest bang for the buck, right? And that's why we only carry certain supplements. We don't carry every supplement out there. The ones that we carry are very powerful, very potent, very clean and very effective. So, yeah, if you want to add something to your dog's food, yeah, if you want to add something to your dog's food, let's add some mushrooms, mushrooms, and I dare say you could probably take these yourself.

Speaker 1:

You know, I know that I now it does say, just for you know, animal consumption only. But I guarantee, if you talk to Julian julian lee she would say her entire staff takes her stuff.

Speaker 2:

So um, yeah, yeah, we. We can't tell you to do it, but I can tell you that I've done it. Oh, yeah, yeah I mean I don't take that for, take that for what it's worth, right, you know, um, but um, but yeah, it uh, officially it has to be labeled for pet use only and and things like that. But yeah, but yeah. And then, and also to just, you know real quick, we have the single mushroom extracts that we, that we mentioned.

Speaker 2:

And then we also have four blends. Now these are going to be mushrooms that are mixed with adaptogens and those are typically herbs plants, you know things like that but these blends are all designed to support different areas of your dog's overall health. So we have Clarity, which is designed to support brain and cognitive health. We have Vitality, which is designed to help support normal immune function. Vitality is, if you don't know what product to use or you're confused and not sure, go with Vitality, because Vitality is just your overall great addition to the bowl. If you're not dealing with anything or you don't know anything else specifically, just add that one. We have Breathe, which is designed to support respiratory and cardiovascular function. This is a great product.

Speaker 2:

If you have a dog, you know maybe you're struggling with some signs of collapsed trachea. You know, because they, you know improper leash or collar in the past or something like that. You know this is a great product for that. And if you have one of the flat face dogs out there the pugs, the French bulldogs, you know the, the dogs that we know have a harder time breathing that's a great product to include in there to help just support them a little bit better.

Speaker 2:

Um. And then we have digest um to help maintain a healthy gut and micro uh biome um and to support normal digestive function. So, um, you know that one, I think is a great one. If you, you know, maybe you got the gurgle in stomach. Or, um, you know that one, I think is a great one. If you, you know, maybe you got the gurgle in stomach. Or you know the after eating burps or something like that. It might be a good one to throw in there.

Speaker 2:

But the most important thing out of you know, all of those products that we have that we brought in is just like the food rotate, rotate, rotate is just like the food rotate, rotate, rotate. If you want to target something specifically, we have a product for that. Or just start with one and work your way through and do a bottle of Vitality and then the next time try a bottle of the Clarity, or get one of the single mushroom extracts. You're not going to go wrong with any of them. Your dog's going to get benefit from them. And, uh, would you take a break?

Speaker 1:

Would you take a break at any point and not do any mushrooms at all and then come back?

Speaker 2:

I think, uh, yeah, I think, uh, I think a break from anything is good. And you know, I personally don't give supplements on the weekends. I do give. I guess I got to take that back because I do give phytosenergy. I guess I gotta take that back because I do give phytosenergy. Um, I do kind of a modified fast on Sunday, um, where my dogs just get a, a really easily digestible meal, um, and so I sprinkle a little bit of the phytosenergy in there, um, you know, just kind of as a little bonus, cause that's one of my favorite supplements, but, um, but yeah, for the most part I won't do supplements on the weekend.

Speaker 2:

That's one way that you can take a break. Or I know a lot of people will do three weeks on, one week off, so they'll give supplements for three weeks and then they'll stop for a week and then start back up, and that just gives the body a chance to kind of reset and and also for you to kind of you know, look and see, you know, is this working? Do I need to? You know, do I need to change the dosing? You know things like that, because you're going to see, you know, you're going to get to see the dog a week of not getting the supplement. So I think I think that's always a good idea. They call that pulsing and yeah that's.

Speaker 1:

That's always a good idea, good deal, I like it. You're making me want to get all the mushrooms and put them in my food, right, see, see, see if I feel better. Yeah, so we, we do have some of the best supplements out there and you can get them on sale. Many times on the Yappy Hour Sale, we're going to have some type of supplement on sale, some type of supplement on sale. And remember we do have free shipping. If you buy $100 or $99 worth of supplements, or if you buy $99 with a combination of supplements and treats, okay, then we're going to ship those to you free. That's a great way to get your supplements. So remember that's every Wednesday night from 6 pm 4 pm Sorry, 4 pm Colorado time to midnight, and you don't even have to wait for the announcement. We do announce that every week, but just to remind you. But you just head over to our website at that time at 4 o'clock, go to the sales page and you're going to see all of that stuff there for your perusing and your saving money opportunity. And if you need help buying food, you know I, I get it.

Speaker 1:

People come to our website and they get a little bit confused because we have a lot of products, however. That's why Brian is there and you could just send a question in the chat and he'll respond back. Or you can even text us on that main line and our staff sees it and somebody will respond, and our staff sees it and somebody will respond. So you don't necessarily have to sign up for that consultation, but if you would like to, brian's got you covered. So just go in and sign up and we will get you and your dog happy, healthy and eating what you were created to eat Maybe not the humans, but at least the dogs. Right, and don't forget, if you want to snag some of your dog's mushrooms, perfectly fine, perfectly fine, all right. So get your dogs on a species appropriate diet.

Speaker 1:

Get over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom. We have so much for you right there, including Mr Brian, and if you have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast, just send it to info at rawdogfoodandcompanycom, because here at Raw Dog Food, your pet's health is our business. And what, brian? Friends don't let friends feed Kibble, that's right, everybody. We'll see you soon. Bye-bye, oh snap. Find out how you can start your dog on the road to health and longevity. Go to rawdogfoodandcompanycom, where friends. Don't let friends feed kibble. And where your pet's health is our business, Just snap.

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