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The Raw Dog Food Truth
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The Raw Dog Food Truth
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DeDe & Dr. Jasek talk about a new clinic where pet parents have the freedom to feed the food of their choice as well as get help for their pets without mandates that pet parents don't want.
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Oh snap. Hello Raw Feeders. I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, CEO of Raw Dog Food Company, where your pet's health is our business and we're friends. Like my friend, dr Judy Jasik J-A-S-E-K. She doesn't let friends feed kibble, do ya?
Speaker 2:Mmm. No way, no way, jose.
Speaker 1:All the crappy kibbles. They just keep coming, dr Jasik. They keep coming with different labels, but you know what Raw is raw. This is what I just don't understand about the world today is that you know they got to make raw bad still and they concentrate on well, where did that cow come from? Where is he? Is he rubbed down? Does he get massaged? You're just like do you still vaccinate and put preventatives in your dog? This is the thing that I can't understand. You and I were talking about what's the real need. If people really understood what is the real need to go to the vet. If you feed your dog correctly and you keep toxins out of him, should people go to the vet all the time? Why? What? You know what's the truth. After you, you've been in this business, let's see, you've got some. You've got some street cred. You've been doing this. How long?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for a minute. Almost 40 years. I graduated in 1988. Wow, and that was four years of vet school prior to that. So yeah, I've been doing it for a minute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So so what's the? What's the um, what's the line that nobody really knows and doesn't hear, and would be if they heard it?
Speaker 2:that you don't need to take your pets, that your veterinarian is. So this is actually a line out of my western a price talk you veterinarian, you do not need your veterinarian to have a healthy pet. Your veterinarian does not create health in your pet. People have become conditioned to believe that the way you have a healthy animal. What do people do? They get a new puppy, get a new cat. I could take them to the vet right away. I could take them to the vet right away.
Speaker 2:You know you get one from the breeder or as a health guarantee if you take them to the vet within 72 hours. Take them to the vet within 72 hours. Take them to the vet right away. And then what does the vet do? Loads them up with poisons. Is that what young animals need to be? Do they need to be loaded up with poisons to be healthy? I mean, what if people understood nutrition the nutrition we talk about and they didn't poison their pets? The only reason they need to go to the vet is for an emergency, but the veterinary profession doesn't want you to know that. It's a secret, because they lose a lot of money, like billions. A whole industry is built on this premise that healthy animals are created by the veterinarian, ain't true?
Speaker 1:Ain't true, y'all.
Speaker 2:What is true is the veterinarian makes them sicker. It's sicker. I was just watching a video this afternoon Dr Judy Morgan put out. She's really on a rant on these mRNA vaccines. You know they say there's new mRNA technology coming out in the vaccines for animals and and she's you know it's unproven, untested and it's it's genetic manipulation. You just have no idea how this is affecting animals, why anybody would put something experimental into their bodies, their animals' bodies, their kids' bodies.
Speaker 2:And I was talking to a new cancer client earlier today and there's some. It was some experimental drug I never even heard of and they tested it on 25 dogs. Two of them had anaphylactic reactions. So you're talking 10% anaphylactic shock. You know she's like what do you think? I'm like no way in hell. And and I didn't know what her reaction was going to be but I'm like you know, don't make your dog. And she started crying and she's like thank you. She says my gut's been telling me not to do this, but everybody else is saying, well, this is my dog's chance. You know it's, yeah, it's experimental, but let's go with the big guns. And she's like thank you for saying that because I didn't want to do it, you know. Do you know what? I thought that that was right and I think and I think pet parents know you know intuitively what's right for your pet.
Speaker 1:You have to listen to your intuition, were any pets healed with this experimental drug that we know of, of the 25?
Speaker 2:A per, like a percentage, I mean I think like 40%, showed some improvement. It was very vague, not like any market improvements. No, and 25, that's nothing. It's nothing. I said your pet is the research study. You know the pets that they're selling this. Oh, we tested it on 25 dogs. Now let's just start selling it and then complete the research study out in the real world.
Speaker 1:It is so difficult you and I know how difficult this is because we've talked about it on the podcast forever but it is so difficult to change that mindset in the vets as well as in the pet parents. Right, because you know that you talk about in a bubble, dr Jacek, there's an echo chamber Right, and I saw this when we were at VRCC. Right, you talk about in a bubble, dr Jasek, there's an echo chamber right, and I saw this when we were at VRCC. Right, we hate raw, we hate raw. Raw is causing the bird flu and raw we would never feed raw here at VRCC and we would just give these big bags of crap and feel good about ourselves. And you know, you, raw feeders are crazy and they just pat each other on the back and they think that's all good. And they do the same thing with research, you know you.
Speaker 1:You and I were talking about this very simple thing that so many dogs go through or the females, you know well, males too, but spay and neuter, right? So the line is that you want to spay your female dog and they don't really give much guidance on that because you've got a lot of people that are spaying them very young, but you want to spay them because they're going to be subjected to PIO, you know. And if you don't spay them, then you know they could get PIO and they could die, and not only that, but now mammary gland or mammary cancer, you know, titty cancer of the dog. And so you and I were talking about this because Lazi, my dog, is an intact German Shepherd and she's seven years old, and I was asking you what your advice was. So I want to just see if we could share that, what would be your advice to any pet parent that, first of all, that has a dog younger than seven? And if you were going to spay them, what would be the criteria for that?
Speaker 2:In my mind, the only real criteria for spaying, I mean aside from preference. Okay, like some people just don't want to deal with the heat cycles and the panties and all that. Um, they don't want to deal with that. Um, I can mention cats a little bit. Female cats are a little different because they are induced to ovulators so they stay in heat for long periods of time, like months and months and months, and they will drive you crazy. So there's a little more of a management decision to spay cats and it's probably not healthy for a cat to stay in heat for all that, you know, that long if they're not being bred because it you know it's not good for them hormonally anyway. But back to Lazi. Um, I think the only real reason to spay uh, like a middle-aged dog is if there are signs of some hormonal imbalance. So we were talking about abnormal heat cycles. So dogs come into heat roughly twice a year Is that what Ozzie does? Like twice a year or so and they usually come in, they spot for a bit and then they stop and maybe spot a little more and if that's all staying kind of the same, I I don't see any reason to stay. I think fundamentally they're healthier with their hormones because they're going through, you know, this cycle in in cats. Their estrogen stays raging unless they're bred, so it's. It's different for any cat people out there people that have dogs and cats it is a little bit different.
Speaker 2:But if that cycle is normal, so what's abnormal? So abnormal is prolonged discharges. So like I'll have people say you know well, what I'll hear is my dog's been in heat for a month. I said what do you mean? Well, she'd been bleeding for a month. So if a dog is discharging in any way for like a longer period of time than normal, that's a sign of an abnormality. You want to look into that. You want to make sure there's not infection or cysts. I usually recommend an ultrasound. Get an ultrasound on the uterus and ovaries because they can get ovarian cysts which are producing abnormal hormones.
Speaker 2:So when you have an abnormal hormonal balance then they might be predisposed to mammary tumors, infections in the uterus, because the uterus is not as healthy. So that would probably be a call to spay in an otherwise healthy dog with like normal cycles. I probably wouldn't and the risk of so the statistics. So when I was in vet school they said if you don't spay before the age of two, the risk of mammary. The dogs have a 50% chance of getting mammary cancer at that point.
Speaker 2:And then, of course, pyometra, because they have a uterus. But if you think about it, why would an otherwise healthy dog if they're on a species appropriate diet we're not poisoning them with vaccines and all this other stuff I mean, why would they get an infection in their uterus? You know their bodies should be able to keep that system healthy. Um, and, and I think they're healthier with the hormones because that's part of, you know, natural living. I've known a lot of women that had hysterectomies and it's really messed them up because then the doctor tries to give them replacement hormones but you can't get that natural balance very easily and it can be really hard on women to try to rebalance those hormones and get them, get them feeling good again.
Speaker 2:Um, and I'm sure these statistics like when I was in vet school 40 years ago those weren't raw fed dogs they're talking about that was kibble fed over vaccinated dogs that you're seeing. So yeah, I used to see a lot of mammary tumors and a lot of pieces. To see pyometra was not at all uncommon, you know. But I I think I've heard of pyometra once in, like one of my clients in maybe the last 10 years or something. Just don't hear about it. I mean, granted, a large percentage of people still stay their docs, but you'd still hear about it. You know, way more often before I was working with more and more raw feeders.
Speaker 1:So it would be a case. It's not as if the older the dog gets, the more that the uterus is susceptible to just bacteria, right? I mean, is that the why would that be the case? Other than what you said? I get it if they're not a healthy dog, because they're eating massive amounts of carbs, which are in all kibble food, a lot of cooked foods, a lot of synthetics, a lot of preservatives are in that stuff.
Speaker 1:And then you're adding on that yearly or three year event that people get their little cards in the mail say, hey, your dogs do, or your cats do, for me to poke it and or shoot something up its nose or whatever, to poke it and uh, or shoot something up his nose or whatever. Um, barring that, I get it that you can same thing in people. You can have the healthiest person and they can come down with cancer. You can have the healthiest dog and they could still be an issue. But what you're saying is primarily, if you have a healthy dog, the uterus isn't just going to suck up a bunch of bacteria. That shouldn't be there.
Speaker 2:Right, and the immune system, because the immune system should be able to handle remember the body can handle. Not all bacteria is bad. And if we get any bacteria in there that we don't want and I don't even think it's about primarily about the bacteria, it's about the uterus is not. The uterine tissue is not healthy. But that goes back to nutrition. Are we on a good, healthy diet, rotating proteins, extra organ, adding in some algae, maybe adding in some mushrooms for a little immune support? If we're doing all those things, then all of those tissues are are in the body and and I would say I think something that really is under-recognized in our pets is stress. You know, are they getting adequate exercise? Are they getting out on the ground? You know, I mean, I think a lot of dogs walk on concrete and pavement a lot. They don't spend a lot of time. You know. They talk about grounding in people and importance, getting your feet on the ground and getting out in the sunshine doing what dogs are meant to do, you know, run.
Speaker 2:I was talking to a client yesterday. They have a hunting breed, a pointer, and she's like the dog is just like so, like high strung all the time, like well, it's a hunting dog. Like, how is the dog when it's hunting? Oh, it's fine. Yeah, because that dog is bred to run 10 miles a day. You know you've got to get that dog out and that stress is not healthy for them.
Speaker 2:I have a friend I was telling you about and her dog has a mammary tumor and this is like about as clean a lifestyle as you can imagine. Dog is not vaccinated, raw fed, but she has 10 dogs and this dog is the low dog in the pack. It's always getting picked on by the others. So there's this stress factor I mean, and that's dogs I mean, if you look at the dog pack mentality, the weaker individuals go away, right they're. They're not the ones that would breed, right? I mean, that's just kind of a natural selection. I mean we don't do that in our homes with our pets, but stress is an important factor and pets pick up on our own stress too. So when we see healthy individuals getting sick, I think we have to look about, look at the energetics too with that, and I think that gets overlooked a lot. It's not just about the healthy, healthy life, the healthy physical part, but the emotional and energetic part too is important.
Speaker 1:Well, because I think what we forget is hormones get released during stress, right, and an overproduction of certain hormones cause problems. Production of certain hormones cause problems, and this is the thing that we we forget about is that we may not see it and so we aren't conscious of it, that when we're stressed ourselves, pets included, there are these, you know, cortisol, the fight or flight, you know, or all of that kind of stuff, and and can you? It's just like you've got the gas pedal on that all the time. There's going to be a breakdown within the body. So it is very important. I do want to go back to the cats, however, and you know what always strikes me as something really weird about this, dr Jasek why were they created to? Cats have to be, um, have to be spayed at a certain time. Why? Why would that be that way with cats?
Speaker 2:proliferate, I guess, like survival. That's why cats just like, that's why you get these just huge stray cat populations, because cats will cancel, they'll have a litter and they'll come back into heat while they're nursing and, like you've got, like outside cats, they can literally get pregnant before their kittens are weaned. So it's, yeah, it's like a survival. Ferrets are like that too and ferrets get really. Ferrets are not spayed. They get really sick because that estrogen, long-term, like high levels of estrogen actually suppress the bone marrow and they become dangerously anemic. And so that's like I said, a cat, even though fundamentally I believe let's leave the bodies natural, as God intended.
Speaker 2:But cats are meant if they got their parts to be bred and if they constantly have these high levels of estrogen waiting to get pregnant, like that's not healthy for them either. So they're probably better off, you know, getting getting spayed, because we don't want, you know, thousands of unwanted cats either. You know we do want to be aware of over, over population. But when a dog comes into heat twice a year, you can control that easier than a cat. That's like in heat all the time. They sneak out the door one time and they're, you know, they can be little huskies too. They'll want to get out, and you know going to walk about do their thing they find see a handsome tomcat out there.
Speaker 2:They're gonna want to get out and you know, make some kitty.
Speaker 1:I was watching a nature show the other day and typically I don't like to watch any type of a show, I don't like a commercial, I don't like anything that shows stress, abuse, sadness, death of an animal, even if it's in nature, and I just can't stand it. I can watch people die but.
Speaker 1:I know, but it, it, it, the. I was watching the show and it, and it was a lion, a big lion, lioness, who was traveling all these, you know, every day trying to find her a mate, trying to call a guy in, you know, and it was fascinating that, um, that they will, that they will do this, so it goes right right along with what you were saying but I wonder, are the, are the female cats at the zoo, or something like that? You feel like they're probably all spayed.
Speaker 2:I, you know, I don't know. That's a good question because they're not probably breeding them. So yeah, that's a good question, do they? I mean, is there? I would assume, being feline, that their cycles are similar, but I'm sure, being in the zoo, they're stressed too, so maybe you know then that's changing their hormones too. So I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I know that they're not eating kibble, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, isn't that interesting. All this horrible raw meat with all this bacteria, but all the carnivores in the zoos, they're out there throwing them chunks of meat.
Speaker 1:We have a company that's in our, in our warehouse with us, and they actually are like a butcher box right Company. I won't say their name, but they, you know, they deliver food to people chicken, beef, pork, whatever and they have a program with the zoo that if they have meats or chicken or things like that that come in and there's something wrong with it, um, they donate it to the zoo. And you know what's interesting about that is you got the fda barking up our sphincter all the time. Oh my gosh, we're gonna make you have a recall, because there was, you know, this bacteria found. And yet you can have these programs with the zoo and those animals aren't dying and then isn't it interesting?
Speaker 2:yeah, that bacteria doesn't doesn't um harm those zoo animals or the zoo keepers, because isn't a lot of the fda thing that, like it's, that bacteria is harmful for people that touch the food yeah, yeah yeah it's it's.
Speaker 1:it's just amazing to me and um that that narrative is still out there. You know another narrative we were talking about narratives that never die. Um is this brian was. Some days he gets out on the the social media to keep kind of his pulse on what's happening in the world and there are some days when he's like I can't take it anymore. But anyway, he was on there the other day and there was somebody that was arguing that dogs have evolved to eat carbs and he said here is the picture of their German shepherd that had evolved to eat carbs. And he said here is the picture of their German shepherd that had evolved to eat carbs. And it was this obese, obese German shepherd. And I was like do they really think that that is healthy for their animal to be that fat? It didn't even look like a German shepherd, it looks like a big fat. It's just big boned. Didi is just right.
Speaker 1:I was just like. That is insanity. Are you that insane or that insensitive or unconscious?
Speaker 2:Pick a word because you're one of them. Just so, so set on a narrative that they don't see right before their eyes that it's not healthy for their own dog and I'm just like that dog at that.
Speaker 1:That dog, that heavy, is not healthy, but it must be in pain, dr jc. Number one the joints are having way more weight and they're inflamed. There's no way that that dog is probably pre-diabetic. You know, I don't know, but I was just like what. I mean, if you want to keep feeding kibble, okay, we'll cut back on it at least. I mean this was, don't let your dog be overweight?
Speaker 2:It was, but they get you know. But then they they're hungry because you know they kibble all those carbs, spike the blood sugar and then the blood sugar crashes and then they want to eat all the time yeah, same thing with me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stay off the sugar. Right, I did that the other day. We had some folks over and so yeah, um, we have a crumble cookie right up the street. You know, those are just sugar city, sounds like it.
Speaker 2:I don't know what crumble cookie is, but it sounds very sugary. I don't frequent.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's, it's C-R-U-M-B-L, and they had one right there in Colorado, at Colorado Mills, in that area right there that you would have been familiar with. But anyway, they are really amazingly tasty. I'm just going to say that. But what I noticed was and I didn't get the great big ones, because they make the great big ones of the little ones we just got some little ones, but I ate one and I just wanted to eat 20 of them. Yeah, because that's that sugar, right, and so that sugar is just so addictive. It is so addictive.
Speaker 1:And one of the things that you know we have an issue with with sometimes with new pet parents, is they love to see their dogs eat and there are no taste enhancers right in the food, there are no smoke or this or that to try to get the dog to eat, and so sometimes the dog is like I'm not sure what this is and that confuses them, right, that that really does confuse them. But I'm like, do you want your animal to be addicted or not? Cause if you don't, then you're going to have to go through a little bit of tough love and you're going to have to feel uncomfortable yourself, because most of the time it's well, all the time it's the pet parents being uncomfortable, right, because the dog doesn't have any thumb. He didn't know how to get online and order the food that he really wants, right? Even if he had a thumb Exactly.
Speaker 2:And sometimes just what they need is a 24-hour fast, kind of get everything fleshed out you know, and then they're. Then they do like a little reboot and then they'll figure it out and usually once they start eating it they're like, oh, how real food, this is awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But, they you know, I I really feel like I want to start educating people more about how much dogs pick up on our energy, our human energy. And I swear like sometimes I'll talk to a new client and they're just like, they're just not comfortable with raw, can tell if it's just not going to work and there will always be something wrong. The dog won't eat it. The dog go ahead, lose poops. There'll be a problem. And I think that person is putting that raw down in front of that dog and saying, man, I just I don't like this, I don't like this raw, I don't want to feed this raw. This is not good for my dog and I think dogs pick up on that, that energy, and but when somebody you know puts that food in the dish and says this is the absolute best thing for my dog, my dog's going to eat this and love it and thrive on it, Then those dogs eat it. Well Cause, sometimes I just have no reason for why dogs don't eat raw food. Why do they not eat it?
Speaker 1:I mean, you know a customer that's out here and he had a German shepherd and I told you this that the dog would not eat it in the beginning. He had a German shepherd and I told you this that the dog would not eat it in the beginning. And I said, trust me, your dog is addicted. And he listened to me and he waited it out and and and it, the dog did turn around. He's like this dog loves it now. Yeah, you know, but but he had to get him off of that addictive cycle and it took him about three days.
Speaker 1:Now a lot of parents aren't going to, aren't going to wait that out, and so you talk about bad narratives that if, if the narrative is right, because they're, they think all right, my dog knows that there's bad bacteria in here. My dog knows that this will kill me. I wish that was true. They wouldn't eat kibble if that was the bad bacteria in here. My dog knows that this will kill me. I wish that was true. They wouldn't eat kibble. If that was the case, trust me Totally.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing that the pet parent has to trust somebody. Who are you going to trust? Are you going to listen to an institution that sells you greenies, mrna, vaccines, prescription diets that are anything but prescription. Or are you going and they don't feed raw? Or are you going to listen to people who have a big body of evidence and even if you question whether we know, you know are but from a hole in the ground?
Speaker 1:Right, give it a try. Your dog's not going to die in three days from not eating. Just not going to happen. We don't see dogs dying in three days for not eating Right. Right to happen. We don't see dogs dying in three days for not eating Right. So I would say that you have to step outside of that narrative. You have to step outside of it. Say, well, is it possible, is it possible that all of these carbs, sugar, if it's not good for me, it's not good for my dog, right? Is it possible that there's another way to keep my dog healthy? Is it possible that I can keep the mosquitoes away, that I can keep, you know, um, not have to do these deworming situations or, uh, rabies? Is it possible that maybe the narrative is wrong?
Speaker 2:Right Gosh, what a novel concept. We've been lied to tell me it's not true. You know I wanted to mention, you know, keto diets. You know big in people too, and there's a well-described principle called the keto flu. They call it the keto flu where people that do cold Turkey.
Speaker 2:They'll tell people that maybe you want to taper off carbs slowly, but some people are like Nope, doing it, cold Turkey, done with the carbs, going keto, and they will literally feel sick because it's withdrawal. It's like you quit drinking alcohol If you're a big drinker, or you quit doing heroin or cocaine or anything that's addictive. Your body's going to go through withdrawals and the body goes through withdrawals from sugar. So when pets don't feel good, so maybe like you drop them off the carbs and they don't feel good, it's because their body's literally going through withdrawal. Takes a couple of days for them to get past that and then like, oh, thank God, real food.
Speaker 2:So yeah, you got to stick it out, but it's it's hard for pet parents to do that because they they there's something very gratifying in watching their pet um eat. But you know we're we're doing this because we've seen the results. It'd be way easier to sit here and talk about which kibble diet to feed. I mean, you know, because that's what everybody wants to hear. We're going against the grain because we've seen the responses. We know how much better pets do when they're on a species appropriate diet. This is why we are beating our heads against the wall, bugging the system all the time we can have a bug in the system.
Speaker 1:So you're kind of been playing around with maybe some ideas about what people want in the world in as far as pet care Right. And you know I I especially from the situation that I went through with Lazi going into a VRCC or a VCA or any place like that when they they treat you horribly. And two, they have a protocol that basically if you don't adhere to the protocol, they're not going to give your dog the care that they need. So you know, you and I talked about this a lot about what if we had a place where blood work could be done or fluids could be given, or you could just do mistletoe or you could, you know, do blood draws and ozone therapy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Ozone therapy, great supplementation, things like that Without somebody saying, well, I'm going to, before you come in here, we're going to give a full round of vaccines and we're going to put you on this, this preventative, this preventative, and blah, blah. And what do you feed? Oh, my gosh, you're a raw feeder. No, no, no. Well, I mean, wouldn't that just be amazing? And we would love to hear from our listeners. Amazing, and we would love to hear from our listeners. What would you? What would that be like and what would that look like for you If you could could go to a facility? Would you like to have a facility that you didn't have to worry about? A lot of these things that people are worrying about today. Right, they really want to take care of their dog, they really want to give them the best health. They need somebody that has these tools that you have Dr, JC and um but there aren't those kinds of facilities out there. There are no facilities like that. There's not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and what do people? What do? What do people want to go in for? Like, what do you guys like when do you take your dog to the vet? Like what? When do you feel the need to go in? Is it usually illness? You know, when they're sick, you just take them in when they're sick. Or do you feel better just going in for a checkup every year and having somebody get you know, hands and eyes on your ears, listen to the stethoscope, you know like, do you like going in for those annual wellness exams to have somebody look at your pet, or is it just illness? You know, like, what are the main things that you would? If you could go into a clinic that didn't require vaccines, what would be the things you'd want to be going in for?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it would be interesting. I'm going to ask chat GPT how many dogs go into a vet for a checkup alone. You know, just just just a checkup, because this is where I think the problem starts. So here's what chat GPT has to say about it. They say about 49% of dog owners say they take their dogs to the veterinarian for preventative healthcare oxymoron preventative healthcare. So nearly 90% of dog owners say they have a regular vet or a veterinary clinic and around um 74%, dr Jasek, of dog owners say they visited the vet in the past year. Holy cow.
Speaker 2:Wow. All those dogs got some kind of poison. All that. 74% of those dogs got some kind of poison that 74% of those dogs got some kind of poison?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it says so. Roughly half to three quarters of dogs see a vet for a checkup in a given year.
Speaker 2:No wonder we have so much cancer stuff yeah.
Speaker 1:Right. Because, the question is how many people can really go in and get nothing done? Why are you going? Again, the question is why? Why do you do that? Well, because that brings income in, yeah. Do they do the pets really need it? Well, no, but that's how we get them into the door.
Speaker 2:That's the, it's the money thing, it's the money, that's the management thing. That's why you know these you're, you're like veterinary software programs and stuff, have reminders built it right in, because then the postcards are powerful. I mean, I've had many of my clients say you know, well, I went in for vaccines because I got the little postcard said I was supposed to like little piece of paper, amazing power and but the but. The but. The powerful thing is fear.
Speaker 2:People are afraid if they don't go in they're going to be doing something that's harming their pet or missing out, fear of missing out. You know that if they don't do this then they're going to be risking putting their pet's health at risk, cause that's what the says. It probably says that on the card to get your pet in now for these shots, don't risk it getting some horrible disease. You know, if it said, come on in and let us poison your pet in now for these shots, don't risk it getting some horrible disease. You know, if it said come on in and let us poison your pet, well, people probably wouldn't go in um, well, think about this, dr jasek.
Speaker 1:Okay, all of the information that has come out about COVID and the COVID jabs I think we've heard a lot of stuff that's come out, and yet just today I received a text from CVS that said hey, you want to protect yourself, come on in here and get this shot and this shot and this shot. Get your flu, get your flu, get you this. Here it is. Uh, it says hi, increase your protection this season with a flu and rsb vaccine schedule, both right now I bet you ran right in there to get them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did, but I'm just saying that it doesn't even matter that there is this information that's coming out that saying, hey, don't be doing these things, no need to do them, probably going to have some negative at the marketing is everything. The marketing is still going. The narrative is still there. Right? The talking points are still there. I've been feeding her all for 25 years. The dadgum bacteria thing. The dogs are choking on bones. It's not balanced. They're going to be deficient. I mean, I've been hearing this stuff forever and we have seen the healthiest dogs when they remove all that stuff out of their life and they get on the species appropriate diet fantastic, they have a way better chance. But the narrative is still there. So it's our job. It's our job, like I said, to step outside the box and see if, see if, see if you don't see some better results you know, but again, yeah.
Speaker 2:So what we need then is for have a place where people can go. So people want to go in for that checkup to make sure they're doing everything right. And we sit them down, we go over diet and we say, okay, what are you feeding? Okay, this is how you best feed your pet. And you know, are you, are you worried about, you know, flea and tick? Well, here's some natural ways to to mitigate that. And so you teach them how to actually keep their pet healthy, like that would be a wellness checkup and you can do the physical exam part too, if there's any concerns there.
Speaker 2:But instead of scaring people into getting a bunch of poisons for their pet, you instruct them on how to naturally keep their pet healthy. And then the person is, instead of just doing a bunch of stuff out of fear they don't even know why they're doing it, they're just afraid. That said, instead of just doing a bunch of stuff out of fear they don't even know why they're doing it, they're just afraid. That said, you got to be afraid of this thing, this virus that's going to kill your pet. If you don't get the shot, okay, I'll do it they don't even know really why they're doing it. Not sure they really need it, but they're afraid, so they'll do it. But then you empower people with information to really help them have a healthier pet patient to really help them have a healthier pet.
Speaker 1:Why do you?
Speaker 2:think we don't have those places already? Well, that's because that's not trained that way. That's our trained, you know. I mean, I think I truly believe that you know that the kids that go into vet school are well-intentioned and they want to help animals. So what are they taught there? I mean, the vet schools are funded by the pharmaceutical companies and the food companies, so they basically train them that health, like I was saying before, health is created by the veterinarian selling all these pharmaceuticals. So that becomes their paradigm. Their way of thinking is that oh well, this is how I keep my patients healthy. Doing all these vaccines, doing all these pharmaceuticals. That they're taught that's what health is. If they were taught, oh, this is good nutrition. And you know what? If you feed them well, feed the pets appropriately, you're not going to need all that other stuff. But Big Pharma doesn't want you. It's a marketing vet schools, a marketing program, right, they're teaching the vet students to sell these products.
Speaker 2:It's really what it is. It has nothing to do with health, I mean. So part of it emergency care, sure, treating shock, doing surgery you know that's very, very valid and there's absolutely a need for that. You know that's very, very valid and there's absolutely a need for that. Fixing broken bones, obstructions, you know, dog solves a rock or a horn cob or something you know. There's absolutely a need for that. But the wellness part of it, which is where a lot of clinics make, I bet you could eliminate. If you got rid of all these preventatives, all the vaccines, all of this, these preventatives, all the vaccines, all of this, these preventatives, you could eliminate probably 80% of the vet clinics out there Do you have the freedom, as a vet, to decide that you are not going to do the standard wellness protocol, that you are not going to suggest the standard preventatives.
Speaker 1:Do you?
Speaker 2:have the freedom to do that. I think you do. I think you do under the principle of informed consent. If you say you know this is this whole narrative like, especially with the rabies thing like vets are required or, you know, required by law to only treat pets that have rabies, well, they're not. That's between the pet parent and and the um and the law. You know they decide.
Speaker 2:I think, if you said I am providing informed consent to my clients and I am giving them these options and and my recommendations, and I'm a small business. I don't do vaccines. They want to. They decide they want to get the vaccines and then just going to have to go to doctor whoever down the road there's plenty of that's doing those vaccines. I don't offer that service. That's my prerogative. I can inform, educate clients and give them full informed consent so you can have the package inserts there here's, here's all the potential side effects of these drugs and these vaccines.
Speaker 2:You want to give this to your pet? Well, I don't do that. But you can go to that vet down the road. I'm sure they'd be happy to, you know, pack your pet full of poisons. So I think if you do it under informed consent, yeah, I don't, I don't think there's, I don't think there's anything they can get you on, not that they might not try, but I, I don't think, you know, I'm not going to. Am I going to tell people you should go break the law and not do rabies? I'm going to say at, rabies shot could endanger your pet's health, you decide here's the side effects, here's the laws, make your decision. But you're going to have to go to another vet to get it. But you know, so you're just giving.
Speaker 2:That's kind of what I've always done is just given people, given people choices, and then people decide. So I think, if you do it from that angle, I don't really think they'd have anything. Now they could. I mean, they went after some doctors, you know, as soon as they want to make an example out of somebody, you know they'll do it. But, um, you know I, I'm, I'm in it for the pets. So I would certainly, you know, I would certainly be willing to go down that road because the pets need it, the pets that I mean. The veterinary profession is literally killing killing the pets and just making them sick and creating more and more chronic illness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I would be a customer for life.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:You just got a lot of ways to go Not that I'm not already there, yeah, but I think that it's. We'd love to hear from you guys. If that's something that you think that you could benefit from, that you'd be happy about, send us an email right here at info. Info at rawdogfood and cocom. Info at raw dog food and cocom. You can work with Dr Jacek now and she can advise you on the things that we've talked about and a lot of other things that, if you're looking at going down, you know the traditional path versus a non-traditional path, get over to a H a vetcom a H a vetcom and work with Dr Jasek and, uh, get on her email list. You can see her sub stack. You can see um. You know her blogs. You. You have a lot, of, a lot of stuff out there, but I do think that having somebody on your team that you can get another perspective is awesome.
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