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The Raw Dog Food Truth
Pets with allergies, skin issues gut issues, and behavior issues can live better lives by eating a species-appropriate diet. Find out the dangers of kibble and cooked foods. Your Pet's Health Is Our Business "Friends Don't Let Friends Feed Kibble"
The Raw Dog Food Truth
Dogs Eat Poop But Can’t Handle Chicken? Please
What if “premium kibble” is just expensive cereal for dogs? We pull apart the marketing, the math, and the myths to show how fresh, raw feeding can be both practical and affordable—without getting spooked by bacteria headlines or recall drama. Starting with a clear framework for pricing raw, we walk through daily ounces, month-by-month conversions, and how protein choices shift your budget. Beef prices bite right now, and we explain why—drought, aging ranchers, processing limits for small producers, and border closures tied to parasite concerns—so you can rotate proteins strategically instead of giving up on variety.
From there, we tackle the fear factor. Healthy canine biology is built for fresh meat, bone, and organs. Short digestive tracts, strong stomach acid, and modern “kill steps” like HPP make today’s raw far safer than the horror stories suggest. We unpack why stool on raw looks smaller and drier, what real constipation is (hint: straining), and why a bout of loose stool doesn’t automatically indict your dog’s dinner. Correlation isn’t causation when dogs also eat treats, scraps, and the occasional mystery snack.
We also zoom out to the system around pet food and veterinary advice. When regulators rely on company-submitted studies, and recalls sometimes chase “no bacteria” rather than “no harmful bacteria,” it’s easy for small raw brands to look risky while ultra-processed diets feel safe. We press for common sense: read the ingredient panel, ask who formulates the recipe, and consider long-term outcomes. If your breed “doesn’t live past nine,” is that destiny—or a pattern of care?
If you’re on the fence, try a low-stress two-week raw trial and watch for changes in breath, coat, itch, and energy. We share easy rotation tactics, cost-saving swaps, and how to get help so you’re not doing it alone. Ready to feed for nature, not marketing? Follow the show, share this episode with a friend who needs a nudge, and leave a quick review to help more pet parents find a better path.
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Oh, snaps, snaps. Well, hello, raw feeders. I'm Didi Mercer Moffat, CEO of a raw dog food and company. Well, your pets health is our business. And we're friends like my friend, Dr. Judy Jasak at Animal Healing Arts. Well, she doesn't let friends or clients, maybe not even enemies, feed kibble. How are you today, Dr.
SPEAKER_02:I'm doing good? I'm doing good. I'm not eating kibble. You're not? Nope. Still not recommend, still not recommending it. I don't even recommend the good ones.
unknown:I had some.
SPEAKER_02:Are there good ones? What the hell is that? I had somebody ask me that again yesterday. I know you get this question. What's a good one? She was, she was, it's a client I was speaking with, and she said, Well, I've got this friend, and he's doesn't have a lot of money, and I'm trying to help him out with his dog. So if you just had to recommend like a good kibble, and I said, So my line now is all kibbles, I don't care what their marketing claims are, whether they got grain or no grain, they're the nutritional equivalent of a bowl of fruit loops. So like kind of like, why waste your money on a good one? That's kind of the way I feel. Because nutritionally, the good ones just cost more money. And she's like, well, they start with better ingredients and then they process the heck out of them, and they're still 50% carbohydrate. So they're not good because they have maybe a few less toxins, maybe, but they're still not, they're still not good. And good kibbles are, I mean, you're spending good money on those. Why not put that money towards raw? I mean, you know.
SPEAKER_01:And here's the thing about cost of raw guys. Yes, our beef prices going up. You bet they are. Um, but here's the thing I'm not sure that people understand how to calculate how much it costs to feed raw because I had somebody the other day, and they have um a 45-pound dog. Okay. So that dog is gonna eat somewhere um uh uh around, you know, less than 40. Anyway, they said that's gonna cost me$600 a month. I said, no, not no, uh-uh. And it was a third of that, right? A third of that. But so I think that sometimes that people are miscalculating, okay. There's a calculation that they forget. So if you take, you know, let's just say your dog is a 60-pound dog, okay, and maybe is gonna eat anywhere from 22 ounces to 24 ounces a day. So you take your ounces, you multiply that times however many days. Let's say you want to look at what a month supply costs, multiply that times 30, but then you have to do something else. You have to multiply that number times 16 to get it down to the to the pounds. Divide it by six, divided, yeah, divided by 16. Divide it by 16, divided by 16 to understand how many pounds a month. Okay, so there's maybe that's what they're doing, they're multiplying it times 16, like I am. They're like, holy crap. No, but but so you've got to get it, you've got to get it to how many pounds does that equate in a month, and then look at that, okay? And and typically people are way out of the ballpark, they're they're going, you know, somebody said to me that's gonna cost me a thousand dollars. I was like, that's insanity.
SPEAKER_02:No way. No way. What do you what do you consider an average cost per pound of your food?
SPEAKER_01:It depends on the proteins now, right? So it's gonna be anywhere from seven. I would say it's things have gone up from six to seven. I can go back and kind of look at what chicken is versus what beef is. In certain categories of beef, the beef prices again are going up, just like when they go up in the dadgum, you know, store. Now, I did hear that the administration has some money going out to farmers, right? That that are going out to farmers. But so we were talking about what happened. Why, why are beef prices going up? And what we're hearing is that there were these droughts and there were these things that happened to the beef industry, and they are having a hard time catching up. That's one. And then also other prices, other people you know, buying into the market, that sort of thing. There's a lot of things going on. What's Joe Soladson saying?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he actually is interesting because I just listened to a podcast, I think it was just yesterday, he was talking about this. So another thing that's happened is supposedly Mexico has an outbreak of screw worm, which is a cattle parasite. So they've closed the borders. Yes, we used to get a lot of beef, cheaper beef from Mexico. So it's kind of a supply and demand. So that whole market, like they're not letting any Mexican beef into the country. So that has driven up prices. And he said the cow herds in this country, I don't remember the exact numbers, but they're like a third of what they used to be. It's really going down. And part of the problem is like farmers are getting older and we don't have the young generation coming up. I mean, the average age of the farmer in the United States is in the 60s, his or her, but usually it's he. Um, and so like they're cutting back, you know, they might not want to run 400 head of cattle, they're running 100 head of cattle. So the size of the herds is shrinking. And like one of Joel's Joel Solaton's big things is it's very hard for small producers to afford to get their um their cattle processed. Like, there's all these rules about where, like, if you want to grow, like, say you want to grow 10 head of beef or something, and you're gonna keep one for your family, and then you want to sell the other nine, um, there's a lot of rules around like where you can get it processed, and it gets very expensive for the small producers to process. So it's if he's his point is if the laws allowed small producers to affordably process the beef, you'd have more of those. We're surrounded here by small cattle producers. We hear cattle out there mooing all the time. Um, but be like, you know, you see like 30, 40 head here and there. So I think we're unique. So he says that. So there's always forces, you know, um in influencing the market. So maybe, you know, yeah, prices go up. So maybe you feed a little less beef. Feed, you know, you could still rotate it in. I tell people like this, you know, you don't you don't have to feed equal proportions to get a rotation. Maybe you rotate beef in once a week and you feed a little more of the less expensive proteins, you know, there's there's there's ways to work around that. I mean, I would do that, like, you know, kind of rotate in a little bit of the more expensive ones just so they get some of that variety, but you don't have to feed as much beef as turkey if or pork if those are less expensive, you know. So there's ways, ways to do it.
SPEAKER_01:Right, right. There are ways to do it. Um, so I was looking at these screw worms. Um, and you're right, they're historically found in Mexico or Central and South America. Um, they did eradicate them in 1966, where they did a sterile fly program. Now, how do we do a sterile fly program? I wonder. Um they give them birth control pills. Well, that's what I was wondering.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, you know, then we do like I think they irradiate them or something so that it somehow yeah, I don't know exactly, but I think something like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so they're called screw worms because their bodies have these spiral ridges, as I'm as I'm seeing. And so what they do is they they burrow into living tissue. Okay, so they feed on live flesh, not dead tissue. Yikes. Um, so anyway, you know, here's here's my problem with everything, Dr. J Zick. I don't know what to believe anymore.
SPEAKER_02:I'm I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you because I think there's so much stuff that's made up. We don't know if this screw worm thing is true. Is it even a problem? Maybe it doesn't, you know, a lot of like insects, things like that that would live down in Mexico aren't going to live up here because it's a different climate. Or did they just want to hurt the beef industry and they just closed the borders and they just needed a convenient reason to do it? So I I don't know, but I I from what Joel said, it is a fact that they're not letting Mexican beef into the US, which has dramatically decreased the the supply. And you less supply, the prices go up.
SPEAKER_01:So here's my thing. Okay, if it really is an issue, great. But remember, we've they've tried a lot of things about beef. One that you know, the cow farts were really, you know, causing global warming and the burping, right? So this was a problem. They had the mad cow disease, which now we know was not really mad cow disease, it was a uh um insecticide, I think, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_02:Right, probably what they maybe the stuff they used to treat screw worms. I'm just saying. Lordy.
SPEAKER_01:So sometimes it is very, very hard to uh to know what to believe because I I do see it now. I do see it from our newscasters, right? From our our our people that the the media, right? Because how does the media all get the same talking points at the same time? Right? It's not organic. If you go out though and you listen to independent reporters, people that do podcasts like us or the big influencers out there, some of the big influencers I still do think that they probably get paid, but you know, the the um the the investigators, the the just the normal people that go out and do some research, right? The only way that they're gonna stop that, Dr. JC, is if they stop free speech. If they stop free speech, which you can see in other parts of the country, other places, that free speech is something that they're trying to shut down. Why? Because there's too much information out here that we can do our own research, right? And people can come together as a group and do research and then come up with other um explanations for the typical narrative. So um it I gosh, I I hope that we don't get free speech shut down. Do you think that that's why Chat GPT has come about? Do you think that that's going to be kind of what they're gonna try to hamper down free speech on?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, I think it's potentially part of the control thing. I think I think it does control the narrative because I've heard people say, like, you know, two people can put in the same question and they get different answers based on what they're searching for and things like that. So it to me, I mean, yes, it can be useful. There can be useful information. I mean, I know people that use it to help with, you know, businesses and stuff, and I think it can be useful, but I think it's also targeted. It's giving you answers that that you want to hear. My husband has a friend that just like, I mean, it has a name. I think he calls it Hal or something. Hal, you know, so it's like his best friend. That was a movie, yeah, yeah. Like in um, wasn't he like was it a computer thing? It was like a computer movie, and he like had a relationship with his computer or something like that.
SPEAKER_01:They the people were in space or something, and Hal was I forgot what it did, but they they were astronauts of some type, and how was telling was the computer that they talked to, yes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. So maybe he got it from there, I don't know. But um, but I think after a while, how's gonna tell you what it thinks you want to hear? Doesn't necessarily have to be true, you know. Um, so I'm sure some of it's probably accurate because they gathers data, but like what I understand about AI, which I don't really know beans about it, but from what I've heard other people say, is there's no original information, it gathers data from what's already out there, and then it based on your question, it gives you an answer. But um, and your answer will also change depending on how you ask a question. Like if you said, Is raw food healthy for my dog? It might come back and say, Well, yes, it could be healthy for your dog. If you say, Does raw dog food have harmful bacteria in it? It might come back and say, because that's where you're leading it, you're kind of leading the question. Um, so I think the answers can be different. So I just don't, I, you know, I mean, I think you just have to be careful. There's all kinds of information, and you know, you I don't a hundred percent trust trust anything. I like to get information from different sources, and then you got to just try to make up your own mind about what's true and what years your own experience. That's the thing about pet care, is like I'm not making anything up. I mean, I'm basing what I do based on 40 years of what I've seen with my own eyes. They're healthiest when they eat a raw food diet. End of story. Chester, our cat, brought up a bird. He he's very proud of his hunts, so he brings the bird up, it was already dead on the deck, and he rolls with it and does his whole, like, you know, cat thing. And then usually, like the cat doesn't finish a bird, like, because it doesn't eat the beak and stuff. He every last bit, feet, beak, everything. There's just a few feathers left there.
SPEAKER_01:I wish you had a game camera. I would so that video. I should, but but here, but even having that video, Dr. Jasic, here's what I have heard people say, what I can imagine that they would say about that. Yeah, but Chester, he's not a domestic cat. Once you you once you know bring him in and and and domesticate them, then they then they can't hunt. No, here's what happens: you addict them to exactly to the Cheerios and the the Captain Crunch and all that jazz. And then they're like, oh, well, maybe I don't have to hunt. Maybe I just sit here and you know, meow, meow, meow for that sugar all the time, right? So it's not like you've you uh what what you've done is you've said, okay, um, I'm going to entice you, I'm going to incentivize you, Chester, to not go out and hunt because as a human it bugs me. Right. You know, maybe best for you, but as a human, it bugs me. And I have an idea about bacteria, and it freaks me out, Chester. So you can't be as healthy as you should be, Chester, because it freaks me out. Right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right. It's it's the human influence, it's really the human thing. People just have a problem. The pets don't have a problem with raw. Humans have a problem with raw. Now, some pets, their guts are so damaged from past treatments and antibiotics and all that, that I think that can make the transition to raw more challenging. But that just means they need more support and it might take a little longer, and you kind of have to work through it because you got to allow the gut some time to heal if they've been on rounds and rounds of antibiotics and tons of vaccines and all that stuff. But it's it's still their natural food. And I think if I mean, I I really believe that pets that just these pets that like can't eat raw or never do well on raw, there's a human energy around that one. The human doesn't really want to feed it.
SPEAKER_01:No, and I just we have seen some of the worst of the worst, and I really do feel like if if I had them in my home, I would better be able to diagnose. I'd better be able, well, let me not say diagnose, and I'm not a doctor. I would better be able to see the better picture, right? And you're right, because I do think that simple things that don't equate too much for us, right? Okay, so sometimes an animal has loose poops. Well, it could be a factor of uh we're putting down things that Lazie, you know, she got into this habit where like we're finishing something, and then she's like, Are you finished? Because I really need to lick your plate. Okay, so let's just say it's something that, you know, has a little more creaminess in it or has dairy in it. Um, maybe she's getting too many, you know, lung treats. Maybe Rick doesn't know that I've given her, you know, there's different things. Maybe there's too many supplements. Maybe who I don't know, but I I doesn't bug me, right? Does not bug me if the dog has loose poops one day or looks like it's it's another factor, people new raw feeders think their dogs are constipated because they just don't have as much to eliminate. And I'm always telling them, send me a picture of the poop. I can I can look at it if it's crumbly and it's totally white, which I never see, then maybe. But are you really feeding that much bone?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and and what the poop looks like isn't what makes them constipated. They're only really constipated if they're straining. So I always ask this question because I'll I'll you know follow up with somebody that we've just recommended starting on raw, and like, how's it going? What do the poops look like? And and then I ask, are the poops normal? And they're like, Yeah, not really. Like, okay, well, tell me what they're like. Well, they're small and kind of a little dry and they're a lot more white. I'm like, well, that's normal on raw. And they're like, Well, I think my pet might be constipated. They're only constipated if they're straining, like if they go out to poop and they're pushing, pushing, pushing, and they can't get something out. Constipation, isn't it? I mean, it's true, dry stools can lead to or can contribute to constipation, but just because the stools look smaller and drier does not mean the pet's constipated. That's normal. And you know, we have you ever seen like coyote scat or or you know, we've done a lot of hiking. So you see a lot of wild animal poop, scats poop, just in case somebody doesn't know that. Um, and it's like drying hard and full of fur, you know, because they poop out a lot of the fur. I mean, that's it. It doesn't look like I mean, I think part of it is people get used to seeing these big mountains of kibble poop, you know, where it's like a little mini hill in your yard because they're pooping out most of what they're eating because it's because it's all crap.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the other thing too is I the the the question of are they straining, right? And and so I would have to say compared to what were you feeding before, right? If you were feeding kibble and we've got the really loose poops, and then I say, um sometimes I think like Lazie, sometimes she just stands there. little bit longer and you think about it some people sit in the toilet you know and it takes them a little bit that's why there's books in the bathroom and a lot of people that's right that's right when they get their reading done right so I would say you know also that straining is like again we always have to say compared to what are we comparing it to right what are we comparing it to the other the other thing that that came to mind about what we think about things Dr. JC I was thinking about this today so I had a lady in my Pilates class who's who just lost her third boxer to brain cancer to a tumor brain tumor okay brain tumor not cancer i i don't know if it's the same and I thought okay we we hear this sometimes this breed is predisposed to this and this breed is predisposed to that but what if Dr. Jasac what if we're doing the exact same thing right we're going to the exact same bet we're doing the exact same protocol we're doing the exact same blah blah blah blah blah and and three of your dogs end up with the same type of thing instead of just believing that narrative me I would be looking at it saying what is congruent in in in the lifestyle of the dogs that I've had what's congruent is it that I constantly do all these vaccinations these rabies shots this and that and and I and I did not say this obviously when somebody's hurting and she said thank god we had labrella for the last year and I was just like oh my gosh but you know I'm not gonna say that right I'm not gonna say that was probably the worst thing you could have done you know she was like that that librella really allowed them to get around for the last year but yeah um and an eight year old boxer shouldn't even be that arthritic no no no no no but but again these things that we believe boxers only live to be eight or nine why what why why would a boxer only live to be eight or nine you know and um it just you know I I I and then I had somebody yesterday who was telling me that their dog um has a CCL problem a couple of people have said that and then it comes on to diet and this particular woman was cooking for her dog and she was just giving it um the cooked chicken chicken and rice yeah and she asked me she goes why should I not give the dog rice and I said well a lot of arsenic in it and it's just a filler there is no nutritional value in that at all and here I asked her she said I really want to go Rob but I just can't pull the trigger she was a nurse she'd been a nurse for 40 something years and I said is it the bacteria um you know scare and she said yeah it absolutely is so I do think that there are people that have been in the medical field where maybe they've seen you know certain flesh eating bacteria or different things with bacteria and it freaks them out. And but again Dr. Jasich like what I was saying about Chester because something freaks us out now our dog gets a totally substandard diet because this dog was only getting chicken with potatoes and sweet peas and green beans and I was just like okay she was like what should I be adding and I said well call Brian uh sign up for our free consultation because I'm gonna take a little bit longer than this conversation but yeah but yeah our our fear our our willingness I don't even know if it's our willingness maybe it's just our inability to sift through the BS that's out there keeps us from giving our dog the food that it was created to eat.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah I I've I've begun telling people I actually said this I was on that um that show the other night that doses of deception and and I said this on there and I say to my clients a lot if if you're being convinced of anything based on fear you need to rethink it because uh like a health recommendation should be based on health and good things and good things you can be put in the body and so much of what's come through conventional medicine is based on fear they make you afraid of something and then that causes you to do something they make you afraid of rabies or parvo or dissemper and then you run out and get the vaccines they make you afraid of raw food by talking about the you know the bacteria that's in it.
SPEAKER_01:So if if you're not doing something because you're afraid of something like where did that information come from because that's what a lot of propaganda is and fear is very convincing because fear and guilt I think are two really powerful emotions when it comes to our pets you know I was I was looking at some information and and um I was saying you know about this rabies vaccine right now if you put information in Gemini ChatGPT whatever you really have to push back on it just like you do that right but I but I found it curious because I was looking at does rabies cause brain tumors well it will not say that it will not say that it causes brain tumors but it says rabies causes neurological symptoms um that mimic signs of brain tumors right and then I was thinking all right so what is it that we are injecting what what are we injecting Dr. JC into a dog in order for it not to get rabies. What are we injecting?
SPEAKER_02:Well what they tell you is it's a denatured part of the virus I mean I think the real answer we have no freaking clue because they're not telling us the truth about anything but the story is that you inject because I don't believe the rabies virus even exists but what they tell you is that they're injecting a part it used to be or a killed rabies virus or part now they're saying so now they're doing this mRNA technology where they can take just certain proteins from the so-called rabies virus and inject it and then that is stimulating an immune response so that the animal builds antibodies against the rabies and if they get exposed their body's gonna be able to to fight it off that's the story anymore and and it's not just that there's a whole bunch of other chemicals and preservatives and all sorts of things in there and uh there's no question in my mind these vaccines are getting more and more toxic and who knows what's in there they don't they don't test these they they claim they do a study which they say is like 30 25 or 30 dogs or something that's not a study. That's like nothing their experiment is putting it out there in the in the real world pet population and I don't think these companies they don't care if it kills pets they just want to make money on them. Maybe they want to kill pets or make them sick because then these private equity companies you know they're invested in the vaccine companies and then and then they make all these pets chronically ill and then they get to sell a lot of you know chemotherapy and apacil and laborella and all these drugs because the pets are I mean it's that evil out there these days and it's it's hard for me to get my head around this but anymore I I I really believe it's that evil because I don't have any other explanation for how ridiculous the the things we're seeing in veterinary medicine these days are.
SPEAKER_01:If you really look at the rabies okay so I was I was putting all this information in so it is called the Lysavirus okay it's the virus genius that um is in the this rabies virus right and that comes out of this other family that's called the Rab Doverda family. I can't even say it right but anyway it says it you know where this exists mostly Dr.
SPEAKER_02:JC in bats bats that have these rabies like diseases and where are these bats found well they're found worldwide except in Antarctica and some islands but they're they're mostly in Asia and Africa mostly in Asia and Africa and and so we you know here's this rabies virus you know and you you you mostly gonna get it through a bite or a scratch from an infected animal um but we're doing this uh worldwide these vaccines for something that we don't even really see but then you're gonna say well we don't see it because the virus you know we've eradicated it well how come they didn't eradicate a screw worm from the sterile from the sterile flies I don't think they eradicated that did they what how did it come back uh oh you're on you're on mute I accidentally hit your mute button there you um supposedly they did but um you know now it came back I don't know maybe things come best come back when it's convenient for them to to say I mean you know and the other thing is how do we even trust the testing you know they say that when an animal tests positive for rabies they well number one they have to look at the brain even though it's shed in the saliva the only way they can diagnose it is to look at the brain and that's another fear factor because people are afraid that if their you know pet bites somebody doesn't have a rabi shot that they could be taken and euthanized because that's the only way to test for rabies. So that's another big um fear factor but how do you know what they're looking at how do you know I mean they take these you know brain samples and cut them into little slices and then do all this kind of toxic staining and all this and when they look under an electron microscope they actually take that tissue and put it in a little plastic mold and then they cut it in these really thin slices and look at it and then they find these things in there and call them viruses but they damage the tissue to the degree that how do they know that's a virus you know they they they don't know it's all Dr. Cowan says it's just a bunch of cartoon pictures you know what again Dr.
SPEAKER_01:Cowan can say that Jamie Andrews can do all the work but again Dr. Jac the the wall that they the the tidal wave of other information that they have to go up against it's like they're a little fly you know what I mean that information will not get out and I actually asked this question um of AI I said why why does the FA FDA why does the FDA not have any consequences why why can't the FDA be held accountable for harm or deaths on their watch and what it came back with is it said it has legal protections that make it very difficult to hold the agency personally or financially accountable for deaths or harm that occur from approved drugs. Okay so it said um the FDA is a part of the US federal government okay and its role the the FDA's role is regulation evaluation and approval of drugs vaccines and medical devices here's where I think that the loophole is it because it says it does not manufacture okay that is done by private companies so they can say all right we just get our information from private companies which is what they are saying about you know like the COVID 19 hey these private companies these private companies said that these were you know okay and um so they can't be sued the FDA cannot be sued for actions taken as part of their official duty okay which um because Congress Congress specifically waived that immunity uh unless Congress waives that specific immunity um so it does protect them from lawsuits policy decisions um and that includes approval of medications yeah so let's say a company got this drug that they want to get out there on the market and they want the FDA to approve it and they've really maybe tested it maybe not tested it really well they're not really sure how safe it is but they really want to get out there because they're gonna make a whole bunch of money and they're like man we're gonna make like billions on this drug if we can get it out there on the market.
SPEAKER_02:So maybe they go to like one of these um FDA people that is going to be approving this drug and take them out to dinner and maybe just give them a little you know kickback and say hey you approve this drug you know we're gonna make you know 40 billion on this we'll give you a couple million if you just approve this and you know um that sort of thing happens and the FDA is immune so nothing's coming back nothing's coming back on them and then they just keep those little you know little um payoffs quiet and I think that happens all the time. The other thing that happens a lot is is um people there's a revolving door so like the CEOs of these companies or people that work for these companies will leave the company and go work for the FDA. So then they've got like a direct line to go you go work for the FDA and then we'll give you some like oh kickbacks if you if you approve our drug. So it's a pretty handy system for the companies wanting to make money in the drug business.
SPEAKER_01:So here's the thing the FDA is responsible for evaluating drugs and vaccines for safety and effectiveness before approval. That's their job but they rely on clinical trial data submitted by the pharmaceutical companies and then um that process is meant to protect public health okay but let's look at the opioids back in the 1990s and the 2000s the FDA approved it they approved the extended release of opioids like the oxycotin and they did that based on misleading claims by the manufacturers okay and um the internal documents later show that the FDA did not fully account for addiction risk and then the same thing with the COVID 19 um many argue that the FDA approved the vaccines too quickly although the agency says it was based on decisions on clinical trial data and risk benefit analysis. So think about this Dr. JC we we often ask why is toxic pet food on the market why why is it on the market because the companies that are making it are the ones that are giving the FDA the information about how safe it is how good it is now to me that the the there's there that's like the the wolf guarding the hen house totally totally if they were really on the up and up these companies would be getting an independent research firm to to evaluate it with a good double blind study.
SPEAKER_02:I mean just the the fact that they're doing the research on their own products I mean it's a conflict of interest right there and they can just throw out data they don't oh this data doesn't fit what we want we want this particular approval so they just throw out the data that doesn't fit the result that they want and I you know if you if you look at if you really ask the questions um why if if it why did journals like the Lancet and all these different companies knowingly um mislead why did why did they mislead the public about how safe things were and here's what they come back with they say well you know all medical recommendations are based on the best current evidence that's why you see like Santix remember that uh was it shantix the the the drug that you take to help you stop smoking and later it caused like you know people to commit terrible crimes and stuff like I mean just this is why later in in life you find that oh well I'm sorry that did cause cancer oh I'm sorry that did cause you know your babies to be born you know deformed things like that so I think when you kind of get a clearer picture of how approvals are made um understanding that these drugs aren't really evaluated the way that they should be if you if you look at all the pet medications that are out there and you said give me a list which I've done of all of these pet medications that are toxic it it's damn near all of them Dr.
SPEAKER_01:Jason it was all of them it's all of them read the and read the packages I mean anybody can go online and look up the safety information on any of these medications and it's frightening the list the list of side effects really frightening so why why do we say this uh not to just confuse you more not to feel like you have no um no way to keep your pet safe I think trying to just get you a a broader understanding of how the system works and I'm sure that we don't even know totally how the system works but when you look at it from this what we've just talked about today where let's just say an FDA comes in and they do a recall on a raw dog food right um the the people go crazy oh my gosh or they'll have questions have you ever had a recall? Yeah a recall is going to happen why because of the ridiculousness of of the parameters that they put around it right no bacteria no bacteria no good bacteria no bacteria right It was it harmful bacteria? No bacteria. Right? And and they can crush companies. They can put a um uh a thought in people's heads, they can paint a picture, the propaganda, and yet I don't know your event, Dr. JC. How in the world have these companies ever associated a sick dog with some type of something that's in the food, like Listeria E. coli or salmonella?
SPEAKER_02:It's all just presumption, it's never been proven because the only way to prove it is you'd have to culture the presumed bad bacteria out of the dog, probably out of the poop. You'd have to culture it, and then you'd have to prove that that exact same bacteria is in the food that they ate. And that's never been done. It would be pretty hard to actually do that and prove it. But the propaganda that just says, oh, well, raw food has salmonella and listeria and E. coli and all these harmful bacteria in it. I mean, that's just the propaganda. And the truth of the matter is, even if those were there, a dog with a healthy gut isn't necessarily going to cause the disease. And they don't look at other things. You know, it's like we were talking correlation is not causation. Dog has diarrhea, dog ate raw food. Raw food automatically gets blame. Well, what else has the dog been giving? Has the dog had a vaccine or had a heartworm medication or some other pharmaceutical or, you know, what else has been put into the dog? Is the dog eaten or true? Dogs are scavengers, they eat everything. And people don't watch their dogs 24-7 like they think they do. And so, what else could the dog have picked up that maybe caused the diarrhea? People just give up the ghost on the raw food. Whereas if they waited it out, just give it a few days. I bet 90% of the time, probably 95% of the time, the diarrhea will clear up and had nothing to do with the raw food. It was something else the dog got in. Because dogs get diarrhea all the time, just because they're scavengers, they get into stuff.
SPEAKER_01:And I will tell you this that almost every raw company producer out there today has an organic kill step in there, has an organic kill step. Okay. Um, that's why HPP came about, right? To do the high pressure pasteurization. Um, I would say today, however you want to position this, there is far less bacteria than there was 25 years ago when you and I started feeding raw, right? And I still never saw a dog get sick ever. And um how is it that dogs can eat other dogs' poop, or they can eat horse poop, or they can eat, you know, it it is just they are not humans. And so these things that freak us out, these things that really worry us, we need to really look at that and say, is it factual that this is harmful to a dog? And then, depending on who you ask, if you're going to ask your veterinarian that, then you have to take the next step that says, my veterinarian believes wholeheartedly because I'm looking at the shelves that are packed, full of hills. I'm looking at the greenies. My veterinarian wholeheartedly believes that processed, ultra-processed foods with chemicals and flavorings and all types of synthetics are better for my dog, that are healthy for my dog. Let's just even go there. You don't have to say better, just to say that that's healthy. You have to make that make sense in your mind. How does that make sense?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, just think about it logically, just use your common sense instead of blindly believing, just think about doesn't make it read the ingredients, they're horrific. How could the ingredients that you read on like a Hills label be possibly be healthy for your dog?
SPEAKER_01:And then I here here's an ask them I I don't even think they would know who are the people that are putting these recipes together, right? Because I will tell you that they are called food scientists. Food scientists' job is not necessarily to make you healthy, they may be there to not kill you, but the there are many uh things that are not good for our bodies, i.e., dyes, are these things that our RFK is trying to take out of the food system, Dr. JC. Do you think that they didn't know that last year? Yeah, of course they did. So I and my my point is that I know that thinking logically is tough when you've got a absolute tsunami of supposedly authority figures telling you something different, right? Think about Fauci. Okay, how many people he is the science, he is the last word, never treated a patient in his freaking life, right? But how many people just and now we find out something different? So we don't we don't want to be behind the eight ball when it comes to our dog's health, okay? So I would suggest that maybe um if you have friends, you have family, you have people that are still feeding kibble, you gotta be careful because people don't like to be wrong, okay? But the question would be how is it that an animal um does well on ultra-processed foods? How is that?
SPEAKER_02:And just ask people to try it, you know, they don't have to be on board with it, just say hey, you know, and and I find that like you know, like I speak from my experience or my experiences with my own animals. And so if you want to, if you're talking to a family member over the holidays and you want to introduce this idea, Raw, say, hey, you know, I've seen some really my pet's health is really, really improved on the raw. Why don't you give them a Christmas gift, buy it for their pet for a couple weeks or something? Just say, hey, you know what? I'll Merry Christmas. I'm gonna give your pet the gift of health, and I'm gonna buy you two weeks' worth of raw food and just try it for two weeks and see what you notice. So then they don't have to commit, they don't have to change all their paradigms on food, just try it. And if it's free, you know, why not give it a try?
SPEAKER_01:I had a guy met in the coffee shop, he saw my truck and he was asking me about it. He goes, You I'm gonna send my daughters some some of your food for their dog because their dog has a sensitive stomach. I said, Barry. Barry, because his name is Barry. I said, dogs don't have sensitive stomachs. I said, what they're they're having a problem with is the donuts, is the lucky charms that they're eating every day that they shouldn't be eating. So this, my dog's dying early, and that's okay because they're not supposed to live that long, and they have sensitive stomachs. You guys, these are uh very simple answers that we've created instead of thinking outside of the box and saying, is that is that really true? What could what could what else could be going on?
SPEAKER_02:Poor health and this lack of longevity, you know, like chronic illness, you know, itchy scan, the GI issues, all this, and this whole thing that, oh yeah, boxers don't live past eight, that's all been become normalized to normalize poor health. They should be living to 13, 14, 15 years, just like other other breeds when they're healthy.
SPEAKER_01:Right, right. So if you would like help with your um pets health, uh, you want to get a gift card, you want to introduce somebody to raw, we can make it super easy on you. All you got to do is go over to raw dogfoodandco.com. Brian is there, you can do a free consultation, you can go into our chat. We have a huge um uh learning center. There's so much information there. Um, obviously, we have the podcast, introduce people to the podcast. We'd love it if you would subscribe to the podcast, like it, um, tell people about it. Dr. Jasic is at Animal Healing Arts, she does the holistic care for your four-legged family members. So you want to get over there. She can give you a totally different perspective. And I think that more so than hearing it from me, when you hear it from somebody who's been treating pets and they're saying, Hey, uh, I've seen that this doesn't really work. Maybe you don't want to be doing that. Maybe you don't need to do that super expensive surgery yet. Maybe there's something else we can do that is worth a consultation. Absolutely. You've been a lifesaver, you know, for us and um for many people, you know, that uh I saw the other day when you did the um what what what was the podcast you did? The doses of deception one doses of deception with BB. BB?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, JB King. And I remember her last name. BB.
SPEAKER_01:But anyway, I saw people like, I love Dr. Jasic. I'm so glad she's on this podcast. So you you people know you out there, so you can get over. I got a fan club. You got a fan. Yes, yes, fan club. Yes, you do. So get over to ah vet.com, work with Dr. Jasik and get your dog on a species appropriate diet. Again, go to raw dogfoodandcompany.com where your pets' health is our business. And what, Dr. Jasic? Friends, don't let friends feed kibble, y'all. That's right. We'll see y'all next week. That's uh the week before Christmas. Oh my god. Coming up quick. It is coming up. Get your orders in now. See you guys soon, everybody. Bye bye.
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