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Are you tired of battling body image issues, disordered eating, and the relentless pursuit of perfection? In this powerful episode of The Redeemed Perfectionist, host Leneé Pezzano welcomes back faith-based wellness mentor Robyn Wright to share practical steps for breaking free from body shame, bulimia, and performance-driven living.

Discover how to move beyond dieting and self-criticism by addressing the spiritual and emotional roots of your struggles. Robyn and Leneé dive deep into topics like intuitive eating, overcoming perfectionism, renewing your mind with God’s truth, and building a healthy relationship with food and your body.

Whether you’re a Christian woman seeking freedom from unhealthy patterns, a mom navigating body changes, or anyone longing for lasting transformation, this episode offers hope, actionable advice, and a supportive community. Learn the “big five” habits for holistic health, how to renounce food rules, and why your worth is found in Christ—not the scale.

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Breaking Free from Body Image Issues, Disordered Eating Behaviors and Perfectionism: Robyn Wright’s Story Pt. 2 | 016

Leneé Pezzano: Have you ever felt like you knew that you're fearfully and wonderfully made, yet you could not get your heart to believe it when you looked in the mirror? The National Eating Disorders Association estimates 69 to 84% of women experience body dissatisfaction. And yet most of us resort to dieting to change the way we look.

But we're not just fighting our reflection, we're also fighting the lies behind it.

So, what if your body struggle isn't really about your body at all? What if it's a spiritual battle masquerading as a physical one?  If you've ever asked yourself, why can't I just eat normally? Or why do I keep running back to the same patterns? Even though I love Jesus, you're not alone, Sis. Today we are welcoming back my friend Robyn Wright, who shared on the last episode, her powerful story. 

[00:01:00] As a former competitive, bodybuilder turned, faith-based wellness mentor and founder of Faithfully Living Fit, she's walked through the valley of body image and performance-driven faith, and now has helped many women restore their identity, health, and relationship with God from the inside out.

In part two, today we're answering one big question: how do we move from knowing the truth to actually living it in our bodies, minds, and hearts? We're gonna go deeper into the how those practical daily steps to actually live free from perfectionism, and body shame.

By the end of the episode, my prayer is that you will know you're not powerless. You will feel renewed, hope for your journey, and do something small and practical today that moves you toward freedom. Because healing isn't about perfection. It's about partnership with God. 

[00:02:00] This is the Redeemed Perfectionist where we break up with perfectionism and discover God's grace together.

I'm your host, Leneé Pezzano, a redeemed perfectionist, author and mentor on a mission to help women stop performing for God's love and start living from it because I've been there chasing fit and perfect as a way to earn love and worth and approval. And when I finally hit rock bottom, Jesus met me there.

And now I'm here to walk beside you as you trade control for connection and striving for surrender. Before we dive in, I wanna invite you to pause, take a deep breath and ask, Holy Spirit, Lord, what do you want to heal in me today? Then grab your journal, your favorite tea, and let's step into freedom together and remember.

Check out the Grace Scale. 

[00:03:00] It's a short quiz to see just how much perfectionism might be impacting every area of your life. You might be surprised.

You can get it on my website@leneepezzano.com. That's L-E-N-E-E-P-E-Z-Z-A-N o.com. I will drop the link in the show notes. 

Oh, well, Robyn, welcome back to today's episode of the Redeemed Perfectionist podcast. It's just really good to have you back. I can't wait for what the listeners are gonna experience today. So good to have you. 

Robyn Wright: Thanks for having me back so soon.

Yeah. 

So, Robyn, last time you shared really vulnerably about your journey from bodybuilding or body idolatry to freedom, and when women hear your story, they might say, okay, that's not me. I just wanna be healthy. What are maybe some subtle signs that perfectionism 

[00:04:00] or body idolatry may still be running the show? 

Robyn:  Yeah, that's such a great question, Lenee’, because I think a lot of people hear things like bulimia or anorexia and they think, eating disorder. I can't remember if I differentiated a little bit in our last episode or not.  But many women, I think the majority of women, honestly, Christian or non-Christian, struggle with disordered eating patterns. Hmm. that obsession with changing their body, with losing weight. Um, hatred towards parts of their body, you know, their stomach or their hips or their neck or their face, you know, just these nitpicky things that we have about the way that our bodies look.

And then going to extremes to try to change that. Yeah. And so that might look like, living on yo-yo diet lifestyle of trying the latest and the greatest fad eating diets. Um, it may be obsession with stepping on the scale, and so you don't step on the scale unless it's first thing in the morning and you've taken all of your clothes off and you've gone to the bathroom.

[00:05:00] Right. Oh man. Ouch. That hit home just now. Yes. Um, and other things like. I hear it often. Whenever I am in public settings with people, almost always, if you're listening, some woman at the table, will talk about, oh, this is my cheat meal. Yes. Or, I'm I'm cheating today.

Or, um, I need to get back on track. Or, I really shouldn't eat this bread and just that fixation mm-hmm. on food or exercise or their body. And so, I believe that a lot of that is disordered eating in an unhealthy relationship with their body and food. For the majority of the women that I've worked with, they've had to use different methods than most of the wellness space is telling them to use Hmm. so that they can truly step into freedom and it's not another obsessive journey of like fixating on food in their body and change. 

[00:06:00] Yeah. and one of the things that I said in the opening for today's episode is that, you know, what if this is more of a spiritual battle, and I I do believe this is so much attached to uh, what they know and what they believe about their own self-worth.

You know, Christian women in they kinda know intellectually, they know that God loves them, yet they're still feeling disgusted with their reflection. And you know, how have you tried to help women bridge that gap between what they know and what they believe about their worth?

Yeah. There's a tension and a balance I think, on this journey. Um, some people have not integrated the spiritual emotional aspect of this and have only dealt with the food and the exercise, and I describe that as really just chopping fruit off the tree instead of like dealing with the root issues um, for other people, they might fixate on that aspect of 

[00:07:00] it and not move into the really practical aspects of the natural. That's good. So, I really think a journey has to integrate both of those pieces of the spiritual, emotional, existential, and also the reality that God created physical bodies within confines of laws and wisdom.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Almost every single person I work with though we start with that, um, identity reformation that I, kind of explained last time. And I think what's so important about this piece is that really our behaviors are a product of our beliefs. Okay. And so, if we have these beliefs about ourselves of I'm ugly, I'm fat, I'm not good enough.  If I were skinnier, I would be happy. Like my husband says he loves me, but I don't really believe him. You know, I I don't have self-control or I'm a failure, or this is hopeless. You know, kinds of like familiar narratives that play out in our minds, those are really attached to lies. 

And so, I think it's really important to kind of get, um, curious about 

[00:08:00] that narrative that plays out in our hearts and our minds when we're looking at ourselves in the mirror or when we're being intimate with our husbands or when we're trying on clothes or, our kids, will say like, things just so unfiltered.

Right. that can be triggering for some moms, right? Sure. So, you know, That, that script is really important for us to get curious about, but get curious about it non-judgmentally. Kind of that. Step one of that identity reformation that I take people on is doing that Yeah. and digging up some of those lies. Because the reality is scripture says as a man thinks so he is. Yes. And so, some of that locks us into behaviors because of the thoughts that we're thinking. And we live out of those lies instead of out of the truths that we have written in the scriptures. Yeah. But But I also recognize that there's this piece that I can hear and read. I'm a child of God. Yep. I can quote what the scriptures say, and yet there be that disconnect between what I truly 

[00:09:00] believe and feel, and then the reality of just where my mind goes, in different times. And so, there's like this, I want to believe this, and yet when triggered, this is where I default to.

A piece of the puzzle that gets overlooked is slowing down to really engage our stories of how our identity was formed Yeah. and where those messages came from, and who those messengers were. It's not necessarily like a quick, sexy thing that we do, like cutting out carbohydrates, that's right. I think I shared this before, is that sometimes we have to go back before we can move forward. Yeah. And so, this identity piece is kind of engaging our story and exploring what those messages that were being spoke over us or implied or perceived from some of those closest relationships in our life, like our moms or our dads and friends at school and doctors and yeah.  And different people. Maybe memories aren't always attached, but feelings are. 

Yeah. And so really exploring the feeling of okay when I step on the scale and I see that number, and like tapping into some of those feelings that point us towards some of those lies that we believe about ourselves becoming a detective in some ways and exploring where that came from and why that's there.

And sometimes that looks like grieving that before we actually can move into the place of putting on the truth of God's word. Because yeah, we have the scripture that says be transformed by the renewing of your minds. Mm-hmm. So, we have that wisdom and then we have neuroscience coming out talking about neuroplasticity and that our brains are not fixed and that they do change and we can create new thought patterns. Right? Yeah. So, we have two witnesses saying transformation is possible. Yes. But sometimes we try to jump there too quickly. Getting in touch with how painful some of those 

[00:11:00] messages are and were, and how raw that feels. And mourning and grieving, the fact that, wow, I felt unlovable. And and that's coming out and how I'm eating or how I'm moving or not moving or how I'm engaging with my body and food.

Yeah. But really taking time for the comfort of God to come in and minister to that younger version of ourselves and create a new identity Yeah. Where we've broken the power of that lie. Yeah. But it's not like a quick jump. And I think sometimes we think, oh, if I just quote this scripture and I have people do that.

You know, we do create this identity reformation kind of, I use it as I say, weaponizing your identity. Yeah. So, we take these truths about who we truly are. Yeah. But if they're disconnected from our emotions, it's really hard for us to sink our teeth in and use it against the enemy. Yeah. So, I do think that there is a really important piece of grieving. 

[00:12:00] The pain of our past and those lies and those wounds that were there. Yeah. And giving some time before we move right into taking our thoughts captive and bringing 'em into the obedience of Christ. Yeah. Like 2 Corinthians says, and like quoting these scriptures. Yeah. But that is an important piece as well.

You know, I can so relate to that. I spent years in various aspects of my walk with the Lord, where I became really good knowing the scriptures. And because I'm naturally a warrior, I became really good at fighting and using the word of God. But there was something not sustainable about that because at some point what's really on the inside is still gonna come out.

Like to some degree it was putting lipstick on a pig. Not that I'm calling myself a pig, now that I've discovered that shame was just such a heavy root for so many things in my life. If shame was the root, then of course all these types of fruit came off of it.

[00:13:00] Well, if you deal with shame, you're gonna produce all new fruit. and a whole new root system and that's sustainable, you see all these women striving, I mean, I was good at using the Word, but I was strong in my soul.I was strong in white knuckling. I was strong even in discipline. And that got me so far. And then the Lord so gently exposes us to situations that are triggers. And then you find out what's still really going on inside of you. And so that deep work healing the root before the behavior is really that sustainable, weapon you know, in mainstream the shiny objects are not dealing with that.

You're told this hormone drop or this pill or this exercise or this program is the next best thing. Again, there may be great things about those, but not sustainable in my opinion, unless you deal with the root. So, yeah. And I think shame is such a big one 'cause it really 

[00:14:00] will trap us kind of in a, cycle performance and perfectionism and addiction.

Yep. And we, out of our shame, we will strive and we'll get results for a time period. But then we crash and then we feel shame about that and then we wanna numb it with our addiction. Yeah. And we feel shame about that and we just get stuck in that loop. you know, shame really does attack the identity.

Yep. And I think we talked about this, if I remember correctly. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, I have body fat, it's, I am fat. Right. And fat is like less than you know, it gets so intertwined with who we are. And so doing that inside work and that deep work that actually really makes some of the practical stuff that we're gonna talk about much easier. Much easier. A hundred percent. So, as we think about the things you help women with to renew and transform that we just talked about, you had mentioned in the last 

[00:15:00] episode about redating your body to the Lord and. Even leading your clients in a body blessing what's a simple version of that look like?  How could you help the listeners at home with that principle? 

I, you know, I think, again, that's not something that I'm necessarily gonna jump to with a client until we've really uncovered some of their pain from their past. we're gonna go there and talk about what that looks like, but I do continue to advocate for people to find a safe person to process their story, because our brain is just like really good at convincing us that we're okay. But even before we get to that rededication and that blessing, there is a level of like repentance that comes before that, that's kind of in that identity reformation. Once we've dug up those lies and we've renounced them and we've asked forgiveness in some ways for the way that we've spoke curses over our bodies and stuff like that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[00:16:00] But then there is a recognition of um, I have to release the obsessive pursuit of thinness.

Mm-hmm. Like losing weight, coming to terms that losing weight's not automatically gonna solve all my problems. Yeah. And, and that is a part of that repentance piece and engaging our story and getting curious about why do I feel like being thin is the most valuable? Worthy body for love, and so reflecting and recognizing some of that of like, where did that obsession come from?

And taking time to journal some of our story and our thoughts and our feelings like where some of that came from and, and making the conscious choice of I am renouncing the obsession and the, and the striving for thinness. Yeah. And I'm going on a journey towards wellness.

Yeah. And thriving. And creating a life that I don't necessarily have to shrink to fit. Mm. That's so good. Okay. Yeah. 

[00:17:00] So thinner does not equal happier or healthier. Yeah. And I think that is such a stronghold in the minds and the hearts of believers in unbelievers and women that has to be dealt with and some of this stuff can coexist. I'm not saying that you're not gonna get any growth if you don't do that first. Yeah. Sometimes that it's all gonna kind of happen together. Yeah. you know, I think before I move people into that body blessing, there is a repentance and a renouncing, and it's like a turning away from the ways and the words of the world and turning back towards what the Lord says about me with some of those truths that we talked about. 

You know, it’s as simple as, Lord, I repent and ask you to forgive me for calling myself fat, for starving myself and withholding nourishment for making myself vomit. If that was a part of your story for calling myself ugly you know, taking laxatives, taking pills, those extremes, punishing myself with exercise and going on spiritual fasts like the Daniel fast, but really doing it to lose weight. Judging other people for the way their bodies look. Mm-hmm. 

[00:18:00] I did that. I was like totally guilty of just constantly analyzing people's bodies. Really obsessing or neglecting my health, After I've repented and renounced and acknowledged that a lot of this stuff is missing the mark on my true identity Yeah. And true revelation of who God is and who I am. Right. Yeah. you know, and some of us even made vows within, I'll never be fat like my mom, or I'll never gain weight like so and so after having babies, or I will always work out and eat healthy.

I'll never be able to lose weight. Like just these vows that we made of I will always, and I will never. The reality is those lock us into behavior of really becoming what we are desperately afraid of becoming. Right? Yeah. And so, breaking the power of those vows. So that we're freed to live.

Yeah. You know, and love I love the, the name of your company, 

[00:19:00] Faithfully Living Fit, because the scriptures do allude to the fact that there is value in caring for your body physically. Again, it's the extremes, right? You had talked about freedom is not on either end of license or law.  The motives. It's so important to be honest with ourselves about the why we're doing things. Even since our last conversation, I've really been practicing the intuitive eating.

Why am I reaching for the food right now? What am I saying when I look in the mirror in the morning, am I still feeding the old behaviors of the first thing I do is, critique my body and get critical of it? Or am I switching the language to thank you, Lord, that you find me valuable and you love me where I am today?

mm-hmm. Are we creating, you know, the, the new mental ruts that we need? So, yeah. It's just so good. So good. Yeah. 

And you know, I have my clients do forgiveness letters. Mm-hmm. And one of them is to themselves. Mm-hmm. 

[00:20:00] So even just releasing forgiveness to yourself for the way that you've called yourself fat or engaged in some of these disordered eating habits and patterns and and limiting beliefs and partnered with those messages from the enemy.

But we've kind of walked through some of that stuff, we can then move into crafting that body blessing that might be, I bless my body to X, Y, Z; I bless my body for, I mean, I will take people through, like I will repent for the ways that I've used my mouth to speak curses over me Mm. And so, I will confess those things. And Lord, I have spoken lies you know, cursed my body for looking certain ways and other people's, and I've just used my mouth to do X, Y, Z even sexual things, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. In a way that was unrighteous and unholy. Mm-hmm. And I will go through each part of my body and cleanse that mm-hmm. and rededicate it back to the Lord. So again, for my mouth, I rededicate my life for speaking life. Mm-hmm. 

[00:21:00] And speaking blessing. I rededicate my mouth to be, a place of nourishing my body and tasting and seeing the goodness of God I think it's like in Romans talks about being instruments of righteousness.

Mm-hmm. And so going through each, you know, our hands for the way that I've touched people inappropriately or myself or you know, grabbed drugs and used drugs or mm-hmm. Just different things. Any way that the Holy Spirit brings to mind. Yeah. The ways that I've used my body as an instrument of unrighteousness Yeah.

Will go to my eyes. Yeah. The way that I've looked on unholy things, the way that I've been, I've looked things critically um, my feet for walking in places they had no business you know, those more intimate parts of our body, our breasts, Um, and cleanse those of all the unrighteousness because you may have a food issue that has nothing to do with food.

Mm. I would say the majority of the women that I work with are seeing. The fruit of an unhealthy relationship with food. 

[00:22:00] because of unmet needs. Yeah. And because of abuse and because of trauma and unhealed emotions and stuff like that. So, you may find by walking through some of this cleansing of your body, it frees your body up to have a, a healthy relationship with your body, but also with food.

And then rededicating that, you know, like for my hands, to rub the backs of my children and to embrace people with hugs. You know, my breasts to nourish my children with, milk and for my husband to enjoy my body. My eyes and my ears, and just no part untouched by the Holy Spirit to cleanse and to rededicate because God chose.

To give us bodies and they are important to him. Yeah. That's how we live out the assignments of advancing his kingdom and having dominion in the earth. Right. Amen. So, it's an important thing or else Jesus wouldn't have come in a body, we wouldn't get resurrected bodies. 

[00:23:00] So, I think it is a really important thing.

But what I find is women really move into this place of writing this out and confessing the ways that they've used their body in unrighteous ways, especially the words that they've spoke. They start to weep in just a godly sorrow because they recognize how the enemy has lied to them.

Yeah. And they would never sit across room and talk to somebody the way that they talk to themselves. Yep. And so, they just start to weep over this and mourn and that is such an important piece. And then when they start to get filled with faith for using their bodies in righteous ways, and now health isn't suddenly about fitting into my skinny jeans.

Yeah. It's about like, taking care of my elderly parents or my children or like my grandchildren or, you know, going on the mission field or just all kinds of things. 

[00:24:00] It purifies what the enemy in the world has. Perverted. Yes. Amen. That's so good. 

So, you get them to this place. They've done the deep work. They are kind of getting into a posture of repentance. And then, we've kind of talked practically about some different things they can do.

But then there's when the old tendencies start creeping in, what's important to say to them? Because I feel like we have to emphasize that it's a journey and a process. One of the things we perfectionists tend to fall into is that if we are still struggling with the thing after we now know that the thing is real and we've gotta turn from it, then we almost don't think we've made any progress at all. It's like, oh no, we have, right. And so, what can we tell our listeners, about the journey? 

[00:25:00] Yeah. I think it's really important to remember that you have to keep the long game in mind. And, and that is a part of that renouncing and repentance and renewing the mind, you know, and breaking up with that pursuit of thinness, but also that there's like an end goal. You know? That's right. There is, but there isn't. Right. It's more about who am I becoming Yeah. rather than the results of the scale or the size of your body. Right. And I'm not saying that you can't have those in there, 'cause we all have those there. Right. And it's important to set goals and stuff like that. Right. But I think that the, the biggest question is, who am I becoming and am I moving towards becoming more like that person? Yeah. And embracing that because when you become that person, you get what that person deserves. Yeah. I can almost think of a practical exercise and, and I may even throw this into how, when I deal with my clients on different things, like, let's write.

[00:26:00] A personal vision and mission statement for yourself. Who is it that I want to become? And let's begin to think about her and picture her. And I would challenge our listener to begin to try to formulate, and again, you said it well, like you need community to really go through this kind of thing.

But even if you don't feel like it's possible, write it down anyway. Picture yourself in that place of freedom that you have seen others obtain that you don't think you can or you don’t feel like you can. I think that could be a powerful thing to keep coming back to and strive for. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, definitely. you know, in, in asking ourselves mm-hmm. why do I want X, Y, Z. Yeah. Yeah. Whether it's to be a couple sizes smaller or to be able to run a marathon. Yeah. But don't stop with just that one why - and you've probably heard this, you go good five or more whys deep. Yeah, that's right.

And that's asking questions like, well, what will be different when I get that thing? That's right. And why, why does that matter? Yeah. And and what will be different about that? 

[00:27:00] And really get to the heart of the matter here. Yeah. Yeah. Is like, why do you want what you want? And ultimately that really points to some of who God created you to be.

Yeah. And right now, as is your health is whether it's your relationship with your food or the way you view your body or your actual physical health, that maybe you do have some things popping up that are hindering you to run unhindered towards all that God has created you to be Yeah. and called you to do. Yeah. And that creates a war within ourselves. When we're not living according to our, identity and our destiny, we're like a double-minded man. Unstable in all of our ways. Right? Yeah. And so, it is important to like, get a vision for who God created you to be and what He's called you to do. And start moving towards that, making imperfect progress Yeah. until the day Jesus returns. 

Yeah. I often will get people say, but I don't know what He's called me to be, and I don't know this and I don't know that. Here's what I do think, you know, 

[00:28:00] you know that you're in an unhealthy place, or we wouldn't be having the conversation, you know, that you need health and you need something to change.

So even if the destiny for now the destination goal is a healthy lifestyle. One thing I know for sure is as we begin to take steps toward the life-giving pathway, we actually start trusting in ourselves. It's so interesting because I left somebody with this comment one day.

I said, you know, every time we go against what we said we were gonna do, we actually trust ourselves that much less. And she was like, oh my gosh. I said, think about it. If I'm in a relationship with somebody else, like Robyn, let's say you and me, and you keep giving me your word that you're gonna do this, that, or the other thing, but you don't do it, I'm going to lose trust in you. Right. That's what I did to myself for years. Oh, I'm gonna work out today. Oh, I'm gonna start getting up early in the morning. 

[00:29:00] Oh, I'm going to eat better. And I wouldn't do it. And I wouldn't do it, and I wouldn't do it. And so, another complicated variable in all this is we don't trust ourselves. Mm-hmm. And so just making these little changes pick one thing today that you know, you've said you're gonna commit to and you haven't done it, and start doing it and watch how you feel about yourself. You start feeling better about you.

You start getting hope, you start being able to trust yourself. Now there's nuances in like setting realistic goals and things of that nature, right? But it kind of comes down to the power of choice. And that's one of the things that I work with women on is there's so much more power in you than you even realize.And it starts just with choice. 

Some Christian people would, push back and be like, well, we're not supposed to trust in ourselves. We're supposed to trust in God. And they get almost too spiritual about things. And they forget how intimately, entwined scripture says, I'm one with Him.

[00:30:00] Yeah. And He lives in me and I in Him. And so, as you begin that healing work of identity you start to recognize that your voice sounds a lot like the Holy Spirit, like the true you, the healed you is very much in alignment with the Holy Spirit. And so, you begin to have confidence in yourself because you know that the Holy Spirit lives in you. Right? Yeah. That's right. And then the other thing though is for those people that have a hard time and they're, they're very much like, I don't know what's amazing. Sometimes you have to start with the body. And not mind. Yeah, yeah. Right. And when they start moving their body, they move into motivation.

They move into clarity. Yes. And can kind of separate some of this, like, oh, I have to feel it, or I have to be motivated we know that exercise affects the brain and it affects the spirit and it affects everything in our body. So sometimes it's like, man, you may not have clarity right now, but if you just start going for a walk Yeah.

[00:31:00] You just start moving small steps towards some of these physical things. Yeah. They will actually, I had clients that they'd start exercising and they'd sob. Yes, that's right. I've done it, it happened to me years ago. And they would just cry. Yeah. And then they'd be scared, like, I can't exercise. Every time I exercise, I start crying.

Yeah. And so, but if we move forward with curiosity of like, oh, that's really interesting. Mm-hmm. You know, it's a, it's an indicator of stored trauma and emotions that we've not processed. Yeah. And God has made our bodies to create these windows of opportunity for us to process our trauma and our emotions.

Yeah. And movement is the pathway for that. For some people Yes. it is really important for us to recognize that this is a holistic journey. Yeah. And for some people it's like going to the counselor and doing the inner work, but some people are so locked up that it starts with, man, I just need to like start eating some protein.

Absolutely. Or I just need to start walking, or I just need to be drinking my water. 

[00:32:00] Yeah. And they get some wind in their sails and they're like, oh, just by being hydrated, I feel a little bit better. Yeah. Like I have capacity to maybe explore some of these deeper things. That's right. And so, I hope, you know, our listeners do recognize that this isn't a cookie cutter approach, but God created a spirit, soul, and body, and they're so intertwined. And if you're buttoned up against the emotional piece tripping you up, then start with the physical  piece, right. And and work your way backwards. Uh, 

That's so good. Just start somewhere. I think it's in Zephaniah where the Lord delights in small beginnings. He is pleased to see the work begin. And I love it's like, just get started I know you listener who might be in the thick of perfectionism, it’s hard at first. Anything new. Overcoming is not gonna be easy. there's a reason it talks about carry our cross daily, right? That applies even in this journey where part of us has to be put to death. But there's resurrection on the other side of that. 

[00:33:00] And, I know that feeling in that, frustration of, I want it now again, because we're so destination oriented.

And so, you just have to be aware that your brain's gonna think that way because these have been lifelong belief patterns that we've had and. You're starting to identify the new steps to take, and that's what you have to focus on. And just keep showing up. Just keep showing up. Just keep showing up.

And before you know it, you're month in, you're two months in, you're three months in, you're feeling better, you're seeing the changes. You pause and you look back and you see how far you've come. And then you just keep going. it's again, the power of choice. So yeah, I love that. And I think it, it takes as long as it takes.

Yes. I think there is a surrendering too. That's so good. Because when you're more identity focused about who you're becoming Mm. and not necessarily just the results. 

[00:34:00] And if we create more action-oriented goals and then we're gonna get those results, but we also have to release the timeline of it.

And that's right. It takes as long as it takes because all of the neuroscience, all of behavior modification, all of this stuff is pointing to the perfectionism. The extremes of all or nothing. Mm-hmm. They actually are counterintuitive to the journey of change. Right. Yeah. And when we think more on that continuum of a little bit better or a little bit worse, and turning the dial up and turning the dial down um, that's actually what moves the needle more consistently over time and moves us towards becoming who we want become and, and getting the results that we want to get.

Yeah. And so even in that choice piece of like, man, I know that I bend towards perfectionism. Right. And I'm, I really like to be perfect. Right. And yet I know that this is not serving me well. Right. And so, I'm making the choice to feel the discomfort of this is not,

[00:35:00] I'm not doing this perfectly right. And I'm gonna keep moving forward and it's gonna take as long as it takes.

Yeah. But God is perfecting me. Yeah. You know? um, I have clients who, you know that I am fat. Right. That language, that word, that phrase. It's just a, we all feel it, we all said it. And I've really in invited people to reconsider that when that rises up inside of It's okay, I'm not fat, I have fat. Mm-hmm. And it's okay 'cause I'm working on it. Yes. And I think just. Answering ourselves with that. It's okay, we're working on this. Yeah, I'm working on this. It changes the script a little bit. like, ugh, failure. But hey, we got a plan. Yeah. You know, I, tripped up here, but it's okay. It's not going as fast as I want it to go. It's okay while we're working on it. Yeah. 

I think it's really important to renounce our food rules. Mm. 

[00:36:00] So this, this does deal a little bit more with our food things, but in this vein of perfectionism or legalism, there's so many rules that we create out of fear Yeah. that try to control us because we don't believe that we have self-control when that is a lie from the al because God's given us a spirit of self-control. Right. um, you know, people will ask what's the most addictive food? You know, That kind of thing. It's the one you restrict the most If we're trying to move towards a redeemed relationship with food. Mm-hmm. And we're dealing with like the inner work of our identity and all that kind of stuff, and engaging our stories and wondering like, where did some of this stuff come from over the years? We start to create a lot of rules around food.

Sure. Eat after this time. Carbs are bad. Sugar's, addictive, beef's bad for your heart. We have so much noise and there's wisdom in some of those things. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

[00:37:00] But also like the thing that we try to restrict the most of and micromanage the most is probably gonna be the thing that we're drawn to the most and yeah and struggle with. Sure. So, I have all my clients write down like all their food rules, whether they're good or bad. Okay. So, like healthy slash good or unhealthy slash bad if you need language. And and they're always surprised at like how many rules and judgements that are swirling around in their subconscious mind, like causing confusion and shame and inconsistency. And just like robbing us from being able to like practice the presence of God and walk in a spirit of self-control because we're like obsessively fixating on those food rules of like, what's bad, you know, that's very perfectionist mindset, right? So, you know, once you just like write all those out and like look at 'em and some people will even wrestle like Robyn, but I actually think this is true. Like This is actually Yeah. 

[00:38:00] You know, and so we can get into some of that a little bit here when we talk about some of the more practical natural things with food. But I invite people to renounce those food rules because all things are lawful for us. Mm-hmm. Not all things edify and yeah.

But I won't be mastered by anything. Right. And these food rules are actually a false task master. Yeah. It's a false sense of control. Yeah. Okay. And you mentioned it earlier that motives really matter. Yeah. And so am I choosing the gluten-free bread because I have celiac and the most loving thing that I can do is to avoid gluten, and I'm actually honoring myself and loving myself by not eating this food. Mm-hmm. Or am I not eating gluten bread, because somebody out there said you're, you're gonna get addicted to gluten you're gonna get addicted to bread. And you know, because there's some social media influencer Yeah. Saying that. And so, motives really matter in exploring why you're eating what you're eating.

[00:39:00] But I do think the more we peel back the false sense of security that we try to build around our relationship with food Um, the more that freedom opens up for us and God restores and redefines what freedom actually means. Sure. That's good. That's really good.

You know, I'm 37 now and so I'm really deep-diving into perimenopausal, menopausal content right now. Um, And I listened to like a three-hour podcast with all these female doctors.

It was so good and I totally geeked out on it, but what was so confirming to something that I feel so passionate about is, yeah. whatever season of life that you're actually in. So, some of our listeners today are thinking weight loss. Some of 'em are thinking, most of 'em are probably thinking weight loss when they are considering a health journey.

Yeah. But some might be thinking some other things, but the reality is whether you're an athlete or you're pregnant, or you're postpartum, or you're perimenopausal, or your menopausal, or you're postmenopausal, 

[00:40:00] no matter where you're at on the journey, you need the same thing. Like the big rocks that actually impact our health the most are those very non-sexy things like eating minimally-processed foods the majority of the time in the right quantity and quality Mm-hmm. So, And I'm gonna give you a list of things that aren't necessarily like a hierarchy, but just Mm-hmm. 'Cause you're gonna, some of you are gonna like go right into the food space of this and others of you are gonna go into like the stress space of it and others are gonna go into the hydration. But these five things, and I think I talked to 'em about 'em in the last podcast, but I'm gonna say them again because they're the things you don't wanna hear because you think it's too hard to implement them.

But they are the thing that will change. how you feel, how you look, how you perform. Yeah. How you think. Mm-hmm. Okay. So minimally-processed foods, hydration, Mm-hmm. managing your stress, moving your body on a, like intentionally

[00:41:00] moving your body on a regular basis daily. And there, And there's nuance, right, depending on those seasons/  But before you start moving into some of those very specific targeted approaches that we might talk about, we  have to have a value and a habit of moving. Yeah. Okay. And then you turn the dial up as seasons change and needs arise. Rest and recovery. So prioritizing, rest and recovery.

Absolutely. I'd train women in their forties and they'd be like in the gym every day working out super super hard and not seeing the needle move at all. And then they'd wanna work out even harder, right? More. 

And I can vouch I mean, I can literally vouch, I'm now 54 and so I can tell you that what worked for me, as a 35-year-old is not what worked for me at 40 - 45, 50 - 55 and I was a little bit of a late comer to the getting educated about menopause. 

[00:42:00] I wish I would've read the book The New Menopause years before I entered menopause. And so, thank God I had started digging into what does health look like at this age?  And, you know, it is possible to reset your metabolism. It is possible to find a whole new way of life that is healthy and that does work. so. 

Yeah, but what's so important, you know, 'cause I get questions all the time. What do you think about this? What do you think about that? Intermittent fasting, creatine, you know, microbiome.

Yeah. Hormone replace replacement therapy. D-H-E-A-N-A-D. All the things. All the things. And they have value. Mm-hmm. And they, they're a piece that, that's right. But they have sand in the bucket. Yes. That fills in around the big rocks. Yes. So, if you can picture a jar, we put in our movement, we put in our hydration, we put in our sleep.

Those are gonna fill the jar big. Yeah. Yeah. And then we're gonna pour in some things you know, HRT hormone replacement therapy if you need. Right. 

[00:43:00] We're gonna pour in a probiotic, we're gonna, we're gonna add in supplementation, but they will not replace these other things. That's right. and why it's so important on the, on the front end of this conversation, to talk about releasing, you know, the pursuit of thinness it, taking as long as it takes, who are you becoming, creating, habits that connect with your identity? Is that because these things have to be in place for you to even be able to like, consistently do these other things? And if you don't have those in place, then you're gonna be groping for these very targeted, specific things to try to overhaul your health and they just won't do it. That's right. So, whether you're a vegetarian or a vegan, or a keto or a carnivore or all the other seasons, I shared, the people who are thriving in any of those spaces are doing these five things. Yeah. So, it's creating habits imperfectly consistently Yes. around those five habits. 

[00:44:00] Little by little. Yes. And so, because I work with so many women who, don't wanna do the diet thing anymore, and they're ready to like try a new thing. I start people with intuitive eating. Mm-hmm. Um, healing some of the relationship they have with their body and their spirit.

And their soul. Yeah. And, And I think intuitive eating really opens up that pathway the best. Yeah. But once we've gone through some of those key things with intuitive eating, like slowing down, eating to satisfied rather than stuffed Yeah. Exploring why they're eating and where their relationship with food, how that got established, that awareness is really, really key.

Then we can move into some of the nutrition pieces, and for some people it's like, hey, we're just focusing on protein. Nothing else. I don't care if you eat a carton of Ben and Jerry's in the evening. I, I literally don't care. Yeah. Your main thing is we are gonna get enough protein in your body. Yeah, because it's a big rock nutrient, so yeah, It's gonna ramp up your metabolic rate. Every cell in your body's made out of protein, 

[00:45:00] you're gonna be more satisfied. You're gonna have blood sugar control, so it's gonna carry a ton of bang for someone's buck. Yeah. And most women are deficient in protein. So then when, but when you've like released the perfectionist piece and let it just take as long as it takes.

Yeah. You're much more likely to be okay with just doing one nutrient at a time. Yeah. And adding in little things as you go. Rather than like, I'm gonna cut out all carbohydrates and I'm gonna do HIIT workouts three days a week, and I'm gonna do this all big thing that's totally unsustainable. Yeah. And actually, make me gain more weight in the end because it was so extreme and messed with like even my sex drive and, you know, all these different things.

Yeah. Yeah. And so, if we can keep the long game in mind and just imperfectly move towards progress of those five things, that's so good. It's gonna bring so, so many non-scale victories. Yeah. But also scale victories. Yes. If that's what you're going for. 

[00:46:00] That's right. That's so good. I wanna make sure you feel like you've rung the sponge out for our listener.  If you feel like there's more you wanna share, what would that be? 'Cause I feel like you kind of hit the big five. 

Yeah. I think the other, you know, I just briefly mentioned the intuitive eating piece. Yeah. 'cause that, that can feel kind of elusive.  Yeah. And for me, I found so much freedom, intuitive eating because it kind of took the rules out of things. Yeah. And the full sense of security. Yeah. you know, you talked about like learning how to trust your body like, if I have the Holy Spirit and God is my best friend and my Lord and my savior, and we have this really intertwined relationship now.  Yeah. And I don't need all these rules to guide me. And so, when I've just slowed down to create some awareness. Yeah. And I've started to explore what satisfied actually feels like. Yeah. And not fear hunger. And allow myself to feel discomfort or even need and know 

[00:47:00] that I was gonna satisfy those needs, whether they be a spiritual hunger or a physical hunger. Like Yeah. Those needs were gonna get met. you know, yeah. And explored why am I eating what I'm eating with who I'm eating and yes, yeah. Where I'm eating. And really got some clarity around Like, Then I was able to kind of move into that more targeted nutrition stuff. Um, actually what I found out for me was I didn't need to, yeah.

I was just doing it intuitively. It was like I had enough knowledge. And most people listening to this do know like, oh, I need to eat protein and veggies and carbs. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was so in tune with what my needs were and what I was feeling and my spiritual and body that I I just lovingly went towards those things.

And then when I felt satisfied, it was like, and this sounded mind blowing to me in the beginning because I felt like I was an addicted to sugar. And it was like, wait, what? Yeah. but that, that intuitive eating, I really feel like transformed my relationship with food. Yeah. And now I can take or leave any food.

[00:48:00] I can fast, I can feast and there's no guilt or anything like that. So yeah. Would encourage people to really like, yes. Eat the protein, eat the veggies, eat the carbs, go towards those five foundational things that I've talked about. Yeah. Yeah. And also start to e explore the principles of intuitive eating.

Yeah. Because I do think there's so much freedom in that. Yeah. 

And in the last episode, and maybe it'd be good to refresh our listeners this time, you also brought up the H.A.L.T. method. Can you run through the that real quick? 

Yeah. So, a H.A.L.T.  again, is an acronym and it's just a questioning tool.

Okay. So, you have to position in your mind that I'm gonna slow down. Yeah. Okay. And you have to be on a journey of slowing down as a lifestyle in general for this to even work. Yeah. Gotta be intentional. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Hmm. And so, I, what I would encourage my clients is let your hunger be an invitation mm-hmm. into exploring something. 

[00:49:00] Okay. So, like hunger's a trigger. Into like, okay, what do I need? Am I, and so that H.A.L.T.  can be like A, am I hungry? Physically hungry. Spiritually. Like What's is this hunger? Um, Or the A can be, am I anxious or angry? Mm-hmm. Because carbohydrates specifically give you that nice little hit that will be like, okay, I don't feel anxious anymore. Yeah. Or I don't feel angry anymore. Right. Yeah. 

And praise the Lord that He's given us, you know? Some, some gifts, but, and, but it's just not very, it's not, it shouldn't be our go-to. Yeah. Food should be our go-to for when we're anxious or angry. Um, and so asking, am I anxious or angry? Am I lonely? So, are ‘L’ is am I lonely? Yeah. And if I'm lonely, then who in my trusted community do I need to connect with? Yeah. Is that the Holy Spirit in God? Is it my husband? Is it a friend? Is it a mentor? Is it a coach? Um, Or am I tired? Don't you love that?

I've seen it different times on Facebook where it's like, hey, remember when 

[00:50:00] Elijah was angry at God? And God was like, go take a nap. And have a snack. And then he like wakes and he is like, okay. Like he's freaking out and he's panicking and God's like, hey, go to this widow. Or like, or with the ravens, I can't remember right.

Pulling out, just take a nap and have a snack. Most of us just need a nap and a snack and we're gonna be okay. Um, But I love that. Am I tired? You know, especially for you late nighters like that are listening. I'm not a late nighter 'cause I have an another 7-year-old and I'm ready to go to bed before they are.

But you will suddenly feel very, very hungry in the evening. And it's because you're actually tired. And let me tell you, your body cannot heal if you are not sleeping. Yeah. Yeah. or, or you know, if you're thirsty also it can mask itself as being hungry, but it's really, you need water.

Yeah. Yeah. So unmet needs feel like insatiable hunger. Mm. Yeah. All of those are needs. Yeah. All of those things that we just checked off with H.A.L.T. 

[00:51:00] Yeah. Yeah. That's so good. So, if your younger self, we’re sitting here listening to this episode, what would you want her to know about her body, her worth, and her walk with Jesus?

 As I'm looking at this picture of my boys in front of me…

That your your body's gonna do incredible things. It's gonna bring forth life and nourishment. Loving touch and arms that hold your children when they're scared and when they're happy and the the most incredible thing that you're gonna do with your body has nothing to do with winning a bodybuilding show or having flat abs.

Yeah. But like the children that came from your body. Yeah. The way that you're using your body to give them a really blessed life. Yeah. 

And I think about, so for those of you listening who might not have children, like I don't, I think about, you know, I get to like, I went on a mission trip to Honduras and we were 

[00:52:00] helping build a new village store and I was the only adult female. There were other kids and then a couple adult males, and I was the only one for the women who was strong enough to move the wheelbarrow full of boulders kind of thing. And so, I was able to serve the Lord on a mission trip because of how healthy and strong I was. Or I am able to help somebody push their car um, out of a ditch, in the winter I can help carry groceries in or lift something to the top shelf or get something down from the top shelf. So, staying healthy and strong is an act of worship when done properly and so that we can serve the community and the people around us. 

Okay, so what would you want your younger self to know about her worth? Oh, her worth. 

[00:53:00] I think the cliche, right, is like, all of us good Christian girls are saying your worth comes from the Lord. But if you can really get a revelation of that mm-hmm. You know, like, yeah. My last podcast it was like I had no idea who I was. Yeah. And then when I got revelation of where my worth came from, I say, it makes me both bow down and rise up. You know, simultaneously. Yeah. So, there's like, oh, who is, man, that you'd be so mindful of me.

Yeah. So, this like, I am a daughter of the Most High God. Yes. like, like, there's not a dark place that I won't walk into. That's right. There's not a truth that I will not speak. That's right. There's not like I am like. Just so full of confident faith. Yeah. And whose I'm Yeah, that's right.

You know, I and I, as I grow in my actual identity in the Lord and become that kind of confident, 

[00:54:00] it's like, wait a minute, He placed a value on us while we were dead in our transgressions. He placed a value and he said, you are so valuable to me. I'm gonna go ahead and lay down my life for you so that you can have eternity with me and the Father.

And it's like that value didn't come from anything I did or the way that I looked It just is how we began our lives. Yeah. And that takes, a decision to begin to repent and be open to real revelation of what God's gospel and grace really mean. And then, you know, we have to ask the Lord, bring the revelation, like actually bring it. 

I'm getting into this season where I'm asking God questions. I'm spending more time alone with Him. And I'm saying things like, how do you see me, Lord? And then I wait and listen. I asked Him one day, do you love me? And that sounds like part of me was like, 

[00:55:00] why would I even ask that?  But it wasn't just a yes or no question. He said, limitlessly. And I was like, Ooh, tell me more. Mm-hmm. And He shows me a vision and he showed me this stream trickling with water. And He said, this is how you see my love for you. It's like just a trickling stream. And then he showed this really big raging river, with just rushing waters.

And He said, you need to think bigger. This is my love for you. All of that by asking a yes or no question. Yeah. That's our God. know? He's such a key for this Lenee’, and this is something I've been talking so much about is slowing down Yeah. And resting. That's right.

If we, if we don't position ourselves to receive, Yep. we'll miss it. We'll, we’ll continue to quote it and it'll be totally disconnected. But nobody can take that from you now. 

[00:56:00] No. Oh, absolutely not. He wants to do that to us regularly, right? Yeah, that's right. And He wants to do that to us in the day to day when we're eating and we're drinking and when we're moving.

Yeah. And like so I heard somebody say that I can't help but wonder if Mary would've got up and served. She still would've done it from a place of rest. Yeah. And if Martha had sat down at the feet of Jesus, she still would've been restless.

Yeah. That's good. And so, I just think that slowing down and positioning ourselves to receive from the Lord and hear in silence and solitude and Sabbath and like, yeah. That it is just an open door for everything that we just talked about for today. Yeah. And probably what you talk about on a regular basis on the Redeemed Perfectionist mm-hmm is such a key for this spirit of revelation. Yeah.

[00:57:00] You know, I had to come to terms with the striving, even with business, even as God called me to podcast and write a book again. So focused on the destination and the fear of not having enough time because I have a day job. So, all it did was kick me into striving at first, which exhausted me even more.

But I, I now have enough revelation to go, oh, ding. ding. ding. This is that all over again.  How about we slow down? How about we pause and we spend time with the Lord, which by the way, gets me so fueled up that I could go run a marathon after that, right? And I'm now present. I'm now free. And so, when I do sit down to do what little bit I can with what time I have, it's anointed because it's coming from a place of faith and rest internally, you know? So rest doesn't always mean go take a nap. It’s a posture, it's a surrender, it's a reclining and receiving and then being fueled by that.

So, we talked about what you would tell your younger self about her body, her worth, and then lastly, 

[00:58:00] what about her walk with Jesus?

That it's gonna look very different mm-hmm. as the years go on. How it looked when you first got saved is not gonna be the way that it looks as a mom of two homeschools mm-hmm. as a business. And but that the Lord is with you through the darkest of seasons and the quietest of seasons the physical manifestations of His presence and also in his silence.

Yeah. That's good. That's, so I think that's been such a surprising thing. Yeah. Um, How the Lord wants to walk with us through each season of life. Yeah. And it, yeah, doesn't look the same as it did, but it doesn't mean it's any less Yeah. Powerful or important or holy or sacred. Yeah. Yeah. He is truly never gonna leave us and never gonna forsake us.

[00:59:00] I just turned 31 spiritually and I'm like, oh yeah, if I just go back and read all my journals or you know, just take inventory of all the milestones and all the seasons,I can't think of one time He ever left me. I can think of times I thought He left me. you know, and those were just more training seasons for me to grow in my faith.

So finally, for the listener who's ready to take one bold step toward freedom after today, what's the first step you would say she can take before her head hits the pillow tonight? 

I would say invite the Lord into the journey. Yeah. And stop compartmentalizing your health from your relationship with God.  He's the best personal trainer or dietician that you'll ever partner with, and He knows you and wants you to know yourself as well as He knows you. So good. By the way, I have to tell you, this is a testimony. I had popcorn this Friday night for dinner, and I channeled my friend Robyn Wright, right here.

[01:00:00] I did, I channeled her every bit. And I had butter. I do butter and maple syrup and sea salt, and I pour that on it. Come on. It was a delight. Big old bowl. Didn't have to worry about sharing it. So, I just had to tell you 'cause I totally forgot to. I love it. So, I don't remember on the last episode if we did a rapid-fire closing.

Did we do that last time? We did not. Come on. Oh, this rapid fire. I love this. Okay, this is gonna be fun. So, we're gonna do rapid fire closing short, practical answers if you can think of 'em. So here we go. 

Give me one lie you had to renounce about your body. 

One lie that I had to renounce about my body.

I hate my legs. I've got dang strong short legs and I've always wanted them to be. Thinner. Yeah. Yeah. I feel you on that. 

What's one truth that now anchors you?

Oh, this is supposed to be rapid fire. These are deep. I thought you were gonna say like, what's your favorite color? Do you drink pumpkin spice lattes. 

[01:01:00] One truth that has anchored me. So many, I think the most impactful for me is that like I'm, I'm his Yeah. His girl. And you now know that.

What's one daily practice that helps you stay grounded in grace? 

Grounded in uh, a practice. My children, they're not a practice, they're just a presence.Yeah. So, mothering. Mothering is your one daily practice. 

What's one verse that restores your focus? Help, Lord? Is that a verse?

These aren't supposed to be ultra spiritual answers. That's good. That's a prayer that restores your focus. We can, we can say one prayer that restores your focus. No, I'll, I'll tell you, this is a, this has been a prayer from scripture that's really, God's been purifying and doing all kinds of things, but like, have mercy on a sinner like me.

Yeah. Oh, so good. I love not that, see, this is not turning into a rapid fire, I love Philippians 1:6. It's one of my favorites that, 

[01:02:00] He will finish what He starts, and that just always, always encourages me. Oh, I got another one. Oh, it's what what is it? He makes all things beautiful Yes. in time.

Yes. He makes all things beautiful in time. 

Last one. One word that describes your current relationship with food.

I think last time I said it was free. And I think it still is free. I'm ready to feast and freedom over this holiday. Yes girl. I love it. 

Alright Robyn, any final thoughts for our listener today before we sign off on an amazing episode? Yet again, that's got me ready to go and like do homework tonight.

 No, this is good, I hope. Okay.

I think you said you might have a free download for our listeners. Yeah. Cool. Bless you sister. Thanks for being a voice for our Lord and an example. Absolutely. 

[01:03:00] Well, there were certainly so many nuggets in that conversation with Robyn, and I hope you pulled out one or two that you can really take away and begin utilizing. I think for me, this idea of bringing the Lord into the journey with you was big, understanding that true, sustainable success likely will mean that not only do you need to address changes in the physical realm, but likely in the emotional and spiritual realm as well. 

And then the big five. Super helpful. That if we just start there, everything else will follow, and you will actually begin to see results. 

Thanks for joining us today, sis, and if the episode spoke to you, take a moment this week to ask God, where have I believed a lie about my body and invite his truth in to fill that space. And of course, we don't believe we walk this journey alone.

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