Special: MAHA Meets w Public Health, the 2nd Conversation: On RFK Jr., Vaccines, Corporate Influence, & More

In today’s episode — the second installment of our conversation between MAHA and Public Health — we bring together veteran public health leaders and grassroots activists from Ohio’s Make America Healthy Again chapter, two sides that allegedly don't agree on much.

Our first conversation raised big questions. Some asked: Why even engage? At a time when devastating cuts are hitting public health and science, and America’s public health mission is being reshaped, many believe this moment calls for a fight — not a dialogue.

But we chose conversation. And today's conversation took us straight to the fault lines of some of the most divisive health issues in America today.

What we heard surprised us. Some positions weren’t as hardened as we expected. Some people, not as dug in.

There’s tension and disagreement — but also moments of agreement, and more than just a flicker of hope.

Hosts:

Brinda Adhikari

Tom Johnson

Maggie Bartlett

Dr. Mark Abdelmalek

Guests:

Elizabeth Frost, MAHA

Mark Harris, MAHA

Nancy Fuller, MAHA

Daniel DeLuca, MAHA

Megan Ranney, Public Health

Reed Tuckson, Public Health

Katelyn Jetelina, Public Health

Craig Spencer, Public Health

Paul Offit, Public Health

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Chapters

• 0:16 Intro: Special Episode! The Second Conversation Between MAHA and Public Health
• 0:58 Why Are We Holding These Conversations?
• 5:06 Who from MAHA and Public Health Took Part?
• 7:39 Conversation Begins: RFK Jr Clip from Hearing. What Do You Hear in This Clip?
• 9:53 Mark from MAHA Ohio on RFKJr Clip
• 15:51 Reed on Individual vs Collective
• 19:14 Paul on RFK Jr Hearing
• 24:15 Nancy on Studies
• 25:46 Megan On Information Dissemination
• 30:18 Elizabeth on Convincing People
• 40:38 Danny on America First v Americans First
• 46:12 Paul on Covid Vaccine
• 48:11 Megan on Research and Consumer Reports
• 50:20 Nancy on Trusting Sources
• 53:15 Craig on MAHA Movement and MAGA
• 1:07:36 Paul On Vaccine Manufacturing and Profit
• 1:24:45 On HHS Cuts and MAHA and MAGA Response
• 1:32:51 Closing Thoughts with the WSITY Team