A Revealing Conversation btwn MAHA, Doctors & Journalists On Trust In Media, In RFK Jr & In Experts

What happens when you bring a group of MAHA advocates together with journalists and public health communicators and ask: When it comes to the media, who do you trust for your information and why? What about doctors? What about Sec. Kennedy? This week, we found out.

The result is an intense, surprising, sometimes funny, often confounding conversation about trust, Big Pharma, censorship, facts, “misinformation” (one voice says, stop using that word, another asks, well, then what do we call it?), bias, doctors, plumbers, and what truth even means anymore.

In this special episode, we dig into how we might be able to rebuild trust when so many of us only listen to our own carefully curated echo chamber.

Joining us was a group of MAHA supporters: Elizabeth Frost (MAHA Ohio) Mark Harris (MAHA Ohio), Nancy Fuller (MAHA Ohio), Jacqueline Capriotti (Health Revolution USA, director of outreach during Kennedy campaign), and Aaron Everitt (Besides the Revolution Substack, contributor to House InHabit).  

From the science communication side: Jessica Grose (opinion writer, New York Times), Kristen Panthagani (You Can Know Things), Dr. Mati Davis (former health director, St Louis), Dr. Craig Spencer (Brown Univ, Doctors without Borders, columnist), Chelsea Cipriano (former deputy PIO for Dept of Health in NYC)

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Chapters

• 0:16 Intro and headlines: MAHA and Media On Trust
• 2:29 We Are Launching a WSITY Substack!
• 3:53 Who Do We Trust in Media? Tom Sets It Up
• 15:23 The Conversation with MAHA and Media Begins
• 17:17 Jacqueline Capriotti
• 17:54 Nancy Fuller
• 22:07 Aaron Everitt
• 25:23 Elizabeth Frost
• 28:10 Mark Harris
• 31:27 Kristen Panthagani
• 34:38 Aaron, on bias
• 38:17 Chelsea Cipriano
• 39:27 Jessica Grose
• 42:40 Mark Harris, on RFK Jr
• 47:31 Jacqueline on Terms that Turn Her Off
• 49:43 Dr Mati Davis, the plumber analogy
• 55:36 Mark, on Truth and Delivering Info
• 58:45 Aaron, public trust and medical journals
• 1:05:12 Dr. Craig Spencer
• 1:08:51 Aaron on Bias
• 1:12:09 Chelsea, on "breaking"
• 1:13:49 Nancy, on the length of content
• 1:16:03 Elizabeth, on why she trusts RFKJ Jr
• 1:25:54 Tom asking about Kennedy on mRNA
• 1:31:45 Dr Mati on tone
• 1:38:02 Jessica on Trump, RFK Jr and Trust
• 1:40:55 Jackie on Trusting RFK Jr and the MAHA Movement
• 1:44:02 Mark on Neo Liberalism
• 1:52:51 Kristen, on Public Health Calling Out Insitutions
• 1:56:51 Chelsea, On What It Takes to Work Together
• 1:58:01 Post-convo WSITY thoughts
• 2:00:40 Thank you for listening!