Mystical Misfits with Courtney and Phil

The Transformative Power of Words

Courtney

What if the words we speak could truly shape our reality? In this thought-provoking episode, we embark on a journey to uncover the powerful connection between words, vibrations, and consciousness. 


Speaker 1:

Hi Phil, it's so nice to see you.

Speaker 2:

Hi Courtney, how are you?

Speaker 1:

Good, I was just saying how your voice is like an instrument. Did you ever do choir or anything when you were younger?

Speaker 2:

I was in choir for about a week or two and it just didn't work out. I don't remember exactly the details, but I think me and my buddies were asked to reconsider. I think they were being kind.

Speaker 1:

They didn't want you to join.

Speaker 2:

I think they were being kind I actually don't remember but I think it was like we both decided that this might not work out.

Speaker 1:

So yeah Well, also, I don't know how old were you and is it so cool to be in the choir?

Speaker 2:

That was a factor for sure.

Speaker 1:

You might've been very good if you, if you didn't care what anyone thought.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you know, if it wasn't cool, then you were running into issues, right. But I really don't recall that that was. I don't been a like a something with our schedules, like we've decided we'd rather do something else after school than be in choir. I I honestly don't know. But I I do remember that, you know, I at the time I thought, well, this was an interesting experience, but I don't think I'm into it heart and soul. That's what I remember.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think it's interesting. I wonder how old you were, but you have a very beautiful voice.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

Very deep, powerful, soulful voice.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. I was sharing something about the sound of our voices with some Kundalini students on Saturday that, as you're saying, a mantra, and a mantra can be focused on anything. It can be focused on prosperity, it can be focused on health, of all kinds of things, but what's happening when you recite a mantra is a number of things. You're using specific words that have very specific meanings and each, each of those words combined to create a complete meaning. So it is like a poem in that sense. But what's really going on is that the sounds that the words that you're voicing are actually sounds or vibrations, very specific vibrations, and just like you would tune a radio there might be people who are too young to remember that you know you would have to turn a dial and and for a radio station to come in clearly.

Speaker 2:

So when you're vocalizing a mantra, you really are turning into that frequency and you're creating the frequency with your voice, and that frequency or vibration is not only emanating forth from you, but that frequency is also activating parts of your brain like the pineal gland and the pituitary. It's actually creating that vibration. So it's like ringing a bell, which is really amazing if you are doing a mantra or, let's say praying, and you press your thumb and your finger to your nose and just say, as an example, just say you can feel that vibration in your nasal passage and that's the vibration that is emanating from you and it's also vibrating in your skull. So when you're making all those different sounds, you're also creating a very powerful undercurrent. That is, it is focusing on the thing that you want or you hope for, and I know how you know that you want or you hope for, and I know how you know magical that sounds. But it's, it's a technology.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, it's brilliant. I live this way and I read this way and I tell everyone I meet you have to speak it out into the world. I am I that much, but I never saw it in that sense. I mean, I I know it's a vibration, but the way you explained it was so divinely perfect because it's what I tell everybody. Right, we might not feel a certain way about ourselves, but we could actually create that into our, into out into the world by how we speak. If we, all we are, are words, because kind of that's true, then how we speak into the world, whether it be mantra or whatever we say, is a vibration and it tracks it. I love that idea of that frequency of the radio dial right and if it's not at the right, exact, turn right, you do not get the information, it does not download, you cannot hear the music, and how important it is to get the vibration right. But the words matter, your words matter absolutely.

Speaker 2:

And even if you were to say something like I am, you're still creating that vibration, that frequency. That's still. It has the same power. Any mantra if you said I am blessed, hugely powerful, that is a mantra, right? What is a mantra?

Speaker 1:

Yes, Words put together to create a reality, or of love or prayer. It's putting it out into the world, right. And however we do that, it's so interesting because are we all creating the frequency of our society right by the words we say or our experience? So, for instance, if our frequencies dialed in to happiness, I'll say, or joy, right, and we're doing that work, will more joyful things come into our presence. And if my frequency is turned into the dial of fear right, and my talk is fearful. And from lack right, talk about abundance. But if I'm always saying that I don't have enough, right, I see it like that then my frequency that radio channel is going to acquire that.

Speaker 2:

Right, and you're not going to be able to tune into the frequency of abundance because you're blocking it.

Speaker 1:

You really are. I mean, this is why I have this discussion with my husband all the time. Right, it's not like you can't have to not do anything to perceive, it's just that. Are you even capable of receiving? Are we at a high enough vibration to receive? But if we believe that we're blocked, it doesn't come to us. And the fact I think we go back to this importance of being okay with where we're at, not desiring so much more.

Speaker 2:

And it's amazing when you think about you know all the words that you speak gets vibrated through the universe. But all the planets have their vibrations and they're vibrating with each other and us. We would be like our own individual converter of all those energies and that is displayed in our birth chart.

Speaker 1:

Right. So today today I think it's so interesting today and tomorrow, the sun is going to be connected to Mercury, and so how I didn't even realize this, how important our words are. I mean you could see it right. But today, especially right in the next day, next two days, especially with that full moon energy, our words really are heard, it matters. What we say really means something. So we better be careful with what we say.

Speaker 2:

And it's a very as I've come to learn about the practice of Kundalini more and more. It is a very serious Teaching, andundalini, that your words matter. Be careful about and try to catch them before they leave your mouth.

Speaker 1:

If you're not, well, I thought it's interesting because the the super bowl was last night, right and it's. I was very upset last year at the Super Bowl because on the sidelines it said end racism. And I mean we, anyone that's spiritual and that speaks to the angels, right, always know what you have to ask for the positive. And so by saying and racism, are you saying OK, let's, and I'm serious, like racism is an energetic word, right. And so I was like are you asking for racism? Because so interesting. My husband and I were walking on the beach and my husband says I don't want my shoes to get wet and at that moment the ocean splashed him.

Speaker 1:

His shoes got all wet. He was so bothered and I was like well, you asked for it. I mean, our words matter, and so so to say and racism?

Speaker 1:

the society can't see that, they just see racism. And so in the perspective, so I thought, and now the helmets say be love. But that's much better. Yes, much better. I'm very happy. Like I was so upset by the end racism I was, it was making me angry. I was like this is not going to help our society because we need to figure out what, what we do want, what we do want, and it really matters to be asking for it.

Speaker 2:

But it's so good that you see that and you know, if more people start to see that, then the change will happen, because the end racism mantra is a trap, just like you say. You're getting boxed in with it, you know. So if you'd said something like love one another instead of that, it's the the same message, but it's way more empowering yeah, there was actually a good commercial and it was like about did you see it?

Speaker 1:

it was um snoop dog. I think it was snoop dog and um and tom brady, and it was like a commercial.

Speaker 1:

It was actually very smart. It was like why do we even hate each other like it was. It was a very I was like, wow, this is, this is a good commercial like to ask why, instead of just saying we hate each other which they don't hate each other, obviously, but just the word hate, just in general, the vibration of it's pretty low and well, let's ask why, like, why, why it was not, it was.

Speaker 2:

I thought it was interesting yeah, I'm sure I'll see it on youtube eventually.

Speaker 1:

But I didn't watch the super bowl no you didn't know the reason why I watched it is because I felt bad that I was not sitting with my husband. I don't really understand football so much, but yeah, it's not. Yeah, it's not um.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not Well, I wasn't interested in that much in either of the teams, but it's not a sport I enjoy watching on television anyway.

Speaker 1:

What sports do you like watching?

Speaker 2:

Soccer's fun Hockey is fun to watch that hockey is great.

Speaker 1:

I love hockey, I love the quickness of it and, yeah, it makes very much sense to watch that. Hockey is a great. I love hockey, I love the quickness of it and, yeah, it makes very much sense to me, like the whole system makes sense. Yeah, football to me like seems very like. I don't understand. I don't understand it and supposedly my children tell me it's easy to understand. I do think it's interesting Be love. So now in all the helmets I think it says be love. I thought, wow, that's great, thank God.

Speaker 1:

That's all we are are our words.

Speaker 2:

And so think about 50 years ago, the idea of something like that being on the back of a football helmet, of all places. So it's good to think that there really are positive signs of progress as our collective conscious right Like together, we're moving forward in ways that will make us all better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you think about the energy of Martin Luther King, right, you think about his energy and the words he spoke. It was always in the form of a positive. It was in the form of a mantra. It was always in the form of a positive. It was in the form of a mantra and I mean, for instance oh man, isn't that like God? Isn't ohm representing God? So it's God's energy.

Speaker 2:

Mm, hmm.

Speaker 1:

Yep, exactly, yeah, but our words really matter and how we speak, but I think how, how the tuning of the dial? It's like Esther Hicks. Do you know who Esther Hicks is?

Speaker 2:

I do know of her. I don't know too much about her beliefs.

Speaker 1:

She's a woman who is, she channels Abraham and she talks a lot about frequency and her energy levels. And she uses that metaphor of the radio, of tuning the dial to what you want, uses that metaphor of the radio of tuning the dial to what you want, tuning the dial to the energy of, of a higher vibration, and that all we are is pretty much what you're saying is all we are is energy. And so if you're, if you're watching bad things I mean I don't even know if she's saying this, but really it's what you watch, what you're listening to, what you're reading. So if you're watching the news a lot, that's a very low vibration, it's fear. It will make you have experienced bad things around you and you'll, you'll, that's what you'll experience.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I believe that more and more, and you know the the a lot of Indian religion, like Sikhs and such. I don't know a lot, but I know that in their understanding, everything happened with sound, Everything emanated from a universal sound. So we're all vibrating with different elements of that original sound. So the planets, us, rocks, trees, that's why they retain vibrations, because it was all. It all was created through that original source of sound.

Speaker 1:

Oh, interesting, and they're really big into sound Like the people that I know they listen to the most beautiful music. The Indian people that I know that are oh my. God, you walk into their house and the sound coming from their stereo it's like magnificent 's, very interesting. I never, I never knew that.

Speaker 2:

But yeah everything is sound they probably keep that music going all the time, at different levels all the time, and they're they're really firm believers and you know that that sound is actually a vibration that is fortifying you and protecting you and keeping you operating at an optimum level you know, what's interesting is is that I remember like back in the day I had a really good friend and I would go to her house and she would have this music playing.

Speaker 1:

I would always feel better simply walking into her house. I would be like, wait, what song is this? It just is the energy of the house. It's so important with what you put on in the background. I'm a very big advocate for not watching the news. You won't know what's happening in the background, in the background. I'm a very big advocate for not watching the news. And then someone's like well, you won't know what's happening in the world, but we know what's. You know what's happening in the world. Right, it's, but it's not being ignorant. It's you could read. I always think you could read what's happening. It's it's different than hearing it and I also think you take it on differently. I don don't know. So I read the news, but I don't. I'm very rarely try to listen to the news. Well, my highest self doesn't like to listen to the news.

Speaker 2:

I'm the same way I listen. I watch a lot of television, but I don't listen to it. So with the news, I do the same exact thing, courtney I. I read the headlines, or I'll just.

Speaker 1:

I can just kind of figure out. Wait, this is fascinating. You have the TV on but you don't you hear, see the subtitles or something.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I just keep the sound off.

Speaker 1:

Wait, that's fast. I've never heard of that.

Speaker 2:

So it's not as disruptive for me if I do that, because I can still glance at it if I think that's something that I really want to pay attention to. But very rarely do I turn the sound on. I can get the gist of it just by watching it. And again I'm not watching it alone. I mean I might be cooking or doing something.

Speaker 1:

So again it's that Gemini thing of two things at once at least at least I can't, so I'm like I have to. Really, I do one thing at a time, but I have a lot of areas to energy, so it's like I have to do. I cannot even go past this moment, like it's very. Oh, you're good at multitasking.

Speaker 2:

I have to watch myself because it's not the best way to do things, but I it's just I'm more inclined to do it to. You know, have the TV on, but then, you know, listen to a podcast. I know that sounds crazy, but sometimes I do it.

Speaker 1:

I like it. I like it. Well, my husband like listens to, like hard like music, like this very loud music when he's working. I'm like how do you concentrate? He's like I concentrate better and I was like, not me. I, I very much need to stay in focus. Did you ever hear of like by me, by? We're talking about sound systems and energy and people are listening to us, and that the binary sound beats? Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And they say it allows your energy to create in a higher way. Go on YouTube and find that. What's it called? Do you know what it's called?

Speaker 2:

It's binary but you can hear it. You can hear it in each side of your ear. You know, and it's supposed to. You know, it's just the same thing that vibrations do, and that is to fine-tune. Uh, you know, your, your, your thought processes.

Speaker 1:

I think I was thinking about like a baby. So babies, I always go back to the child and the baby's born and just the screaming of a baby would create change your energy, and not necessarily in a bad way, right Cause they ever hear a crying baby. It doesn't make you upset or angry, but it doesn't just shift something. It's like your body kind of shakes and moves.

Speaker 2:

And there's a definitely a strong biological reason for that. And that's again the exact frequency that would make any human sit up and pay attention. You know that's that pierces through everything, right? A crying infant. Everyone pays attention to that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like you automatically have to stop and be aware it's so interesting to think about biology, how, when we can notice the synchronicities of life and how everything really is a message to, I guess, protect us in a way or to keep us raising our vibrational energy. Yeah, it's, it's fascinating. Well, what do you like? Do you have music playing on in your house? I actually don't, and it's something that I've always wanted to do, but I've never really found the right music.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I do Not always, but often I will put something on rotation and they're mantras of some kind, but I just put them just above, not being able to hear them, so it's just in the background all the time and I just let it play and play, and play. Sometimes I'll really listen to it and turn it up, but I have, you know, I have a lot of different musical interests, so I listen to some hard stuff, like your husband does, and then the standards, the crooners, and then it's what's your favorite band?

Speaker 2:

oh my goodness, I I have.

Speaker 1:

I think it's the ramones there really yeah was it the remote me, did your? Is it called back to high school? Do you do a movie I'm talking about like it was my favorite movie in the 80s. I'm like almost embarrassed to tell you that it was like the stupidest movie it is stupid, yeah it was like my but it's great it was great wait, I think it's the all-time one of the greatest movies. But right, yeah, wasn't it like about the ramones? And that's the only thing I know about the ramones yeah, rock and roll high school okay, I'm so embarrassed.

Speaker 1:

I must have seen that movie like a hundred times. I thought it was I don't like. I mean I thought it was the most brilliant movie and I did not like the ramones. But it was like why did I think that movie was so brilliant? Do you, do you remember it?

Speaker 2:

oh, oh yeah, yeah, I just had a very kind of slacker energy to it. It's like very, you know.

Speaker 1:

What was the point? Like they were obsessed with the Ramones, right, and they wanted to meet the Ramones.

Speaker 2:

And they see them go to the concert. But so it wasn't. It wasn't. It was kind of a flimsy plot, but it was a reason for them to sing songs and you know, it was very, very kind of fun summer drive-in movie.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Did you like? If you like the Ramones, you must have liked that movie. Or were you too intellectually stimulating for that movie?

Speaker 2:

No, no, I love that movie too, for the same reason that I liked the Ramones, and that is they had this like devil may care. You know, let's put it together and do something. It doesn't have to be perfect and polished and beautiful, and that's what the movie was, too, I thought.

Speaker 1:

And also like it doesn't have to be like everybody else. I go back to this. I mean, I mean, the energy right now is to not conform and in some ways I think the ramones were not about like back in. Yes, there's been rock bands right that, but they were, they were very non-conformists, they were people that were out of the box, they were kind of extreme. It was edgy that's why.

Speaker 2:

So, at the time that they came on the scene, you know, I was in high school and everybody was listening to arena bands. You know big hair bands and I I tried to.

Speaker 1:

So what are like big hair bands, Like what? What are they?

Speaker 2:

Like Led Zeppelin, emerson Lake and Palmer. So big concert, you know bands, and the Ramones were just a couple of guys with guitars just banging it out, yeah, and their songs are really irreverent, you know, very kind of juvenile. So it was the complete antidote to all this other music that was happening at the time. So they really they really opened up. So they really opened up a lot of possibilities for people with music. So I couldn't listen to the Ramones for very long in one long stretch. I could never do that. But what they did is they opened the door for so many other great musicians to think, hey, wait a second, they're just doing straight up rock and roll. They don't have to. There's no, they're not doing any, you know, displays of virtuality on the guitar or anything like that. Those are all great things, but they were the complete opposite of all of that it wasn't.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't as deep because if you think like led zeppelin, it was like so deep and so watery yeah yeah so much. Yeah, it's so interesting to think about just the element of it, right, and how it did change. I would think that probably changed music, and how these different time come, these different periods come in and things change, just like now. Right, we're at a great epitome of change.

Speaker 2:

Oh yes, we definitely are. Yes, and I think there'll be lots, lots of changes in music and the arts and and the way we go about our daily lives. I think there's just going to be a lot of change.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I hope so, I, I okay, I hope the whole art thing. I hope that we. It seems as if. It just seems as if the last five years, nothing's new, like everything has been copied. There's no like new innovate. Like everything is a copy of something else, even though I'm not saying that things aren't great, right, like, like it was not a great movie, because I think it was, but it's still taken from a different, a different form, right, and there's no new innovative.

Speaker 1:

I was watching, okay, I was watching. Do you have Samsung TV? Okay, okay, so you know how Samsung TV, you turn it on and there's like a TV channel that just turns on. Okay, so, mine is on highway to heaven. I swear, I do not plan it this way. It is like the most brilliant show. It's all the same problems, but it 1980. So how many years ago, 50 years ago? Right, for saying same problems as we have today, same problems, problems, and they go about dealing with it. I thought this is such an innovative show, this is so ahead of its day. Right, he must have been a very innovative guy because out of nowhere, this probably show came on and it was so happy and it was so possibility that I don't know.

Speaker 2:

same problems we have today, no different right we're living in the same world today yeah, and I think that's that's why I think there's just going to be so many surprising innovations coming up that will just I think there'll be, you know a lot of adjustments because of it. Even though it feels unsettling right now, it's ultimately moving in a very good direction. It's just hard to feel that sometimes when you think that the rug might be pulled out from under your feet, so that's not a great feeling. But, yeah, that feeling is is expected when you're in a transitional phase and we'll just have to surf with it, we'll just have to roll with it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think art has a way of coming ahead of us, right? Does that make sense? Like the art tends to come before we come right I always go back to, like that miley cyrus song I buy myself flowers came out right before we were all supposed to learn how to take care of ourselves, like right. And so now we're all supposed to get very spiritual. So I'm guess, or not spiritual, knowing that we're one with each other, one with the divine, and so I'm going to wonder if art, movies, music will epitomize that and it'll be one step ahead of us so we can tune into that vibration.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think you're right about that. I think it will come from music and art of all kinds art of all kinds, or it could be a brand new blend of the art forms we know now to create something completely unique, something brand new.

Speaker 1:

I think it is. I think there's a lot of new concepts out there, new ideas and new ways of seeing things, and that's hard. I mean you think about the rug pulled out underneath your. Yeah, people don't like change, and it's you have to change. You have to change, we have to change.

Speaker 2:

It can't be how it's always been I do know that a lot of people are really into. You know fan art and you know fans writing news stories for popular Wait, what is? It. So a lot of people are writing new chapters on established books Really and they're doing it online and they're or they're they're doing they're doing spinoffs of you know superheroes and they're it's it. This is all their own creation.

Speaker 1:

And regular people like everyday people, like not huh.

Speaker 1:

Are we allowed to do that? That's an interesting question. I was wondering that, like are you allowed to what? What? Okay, I was thinking about this with YouTube because someone was talking oh, I know who it was. It was like Quentin Tarantino was talking about this experience and he was literally talking about a Saturn return. I thought, oh, this would be brilliant to just take that clip and then say, oh, this is a Saturn return, like a perfect example of someone speaking. And then it would be the world was pressing him to make a change. They didn't understand why and things had to change. And I thought very Saturn. And he said I think it was something I listened for two minutes, 28 years old. I thought this is and I was wondering how to take a clip and then use it.

Speaker 1:

What, what, what right do we have, kind of? That's what I was thinking about taking someone else's information very AI.

Speaker 2:

but yeah, you could definitely do that. There's and that's what you're right on target with what I'm talking about People reusing original work. They do it with music, they do it with film. You can go on YouTube and see all kinds of great tributes to favorite movies or favorite actors. They're doing all kinds of really great things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I wouldn't trade. It's actually very interesting with the AI and the way AI is going. Wouldn't there be? Wouldn't it be difficult with trademarks and information like, say, harry Potter? Right, harry Potter is very much Harry Potter. It's owned by Warner Brothers, right? Am I right, is it? I don't know.

Speaker 2:

And so then they own the rights.

Speaker 1:

If someone were to come up with a whole new philosophy of it, can they actually do that?

Speaker 2:

They're doing it all the time online, in all these communities. They're spinning these amazing stories, but it's not commercial, they're not making-.

Speaker 1:

Maybe someone buys it, but we don't know, they could. Yes, someone needs to buy it from. This is where any artist gets established right. They need, they need information. Person creates the information.

Speaker 2:

That's how it gets made yeah, I, and I think there's going to be be lots of changes about that as well, because it's so much easier now for people to make these things at home. They could make a, a film, you know it would look like it was made at home, but it's still a film with, you know, great characters, you characters that we all know, familiar plots and people really dig that stuff.

Speaker 1:

Wait. There was like there was wait. They had like a fake commercial, for it was like saying, oh, and next it was back to the future. It was like the next back to the future, and they did. They used all of the clips from it.

Speaker 1:

It looked very real. My daughter was like this is not real. Like'm like, how did you know that's not real? I mean, I believed it, I believed it. But that scares me too, because then do you use this whole? There's like a gift in it. Right, we could move things forward, but you wonder if I go back to people stealing information using things that aren't really theirs.

Speaker 2:

Right. But I think the fans are doing it just out of love and admiration, because they're just so into it, you know. So I don't think they have any other notions about what they're doing. They're just love working together, working on this project and sharing it with people, and that's as far as it goes. That's my understanding. Now there might be other people who have other agendas, and that wouldn't be surprising, but there's definitely a groundswell of people out there who are just looking at all these things again and telling the world we are really into this. Look what we've done.

Speaker 1:

I hope you like it, yeah and I think things are cyclical, right like it comes back and it becomes even more meaningful, right like from the past and replaying things and having things. I was thinking like miss coneniality. Do you know the movie it was on? Did you see Shrinking?

Speaker 2:

No, oh it's so good.

Speaker 1:

It's on Apple, and the guy in the TV show had a picture of Miss Congeniality and I thought, wow, this is so interesting. I wonder if it gets more popular, because a lot of people that are younger don't know from Miss Conggeniality. And, lo and behold, netflix took it and now I think it's in like the top 10 Netflix. I thought how funny, right Is it? Because they saw it on the screen in that movie. And this man now has a picture of Sandra Bullock, right? It's like you see something and you're like, oh, maybe I want to see that.

Speaker 2:

Well, if it was, if it was in the image on screen, it was put there for a reason, you know. Somebody made a choice to put that image in that scene.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't an art, it was very weird, like it was a very. It's a man who he was very depressed and he took all the stuff out of his house and he had this poster and you couldn't the first thing. You see, you notice it, it's in the back of your mind and then they do talk about it. But there so product placement is very interesting on why we see things, why we do things right.

Speaker 2:

But it could have been the screenwriter loved that screenplay, or the actor might have said who knows? But that in itself tells you that that movie has power, that you know it didn't win the Best Picture Award, but that has nothing to do with how much power it holds in people's minds.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think sometimes the most powerful movies are the movies that aren't even acknowledged, right, the people that are. I think you know the story of dirty dancing was that. Do you know that they literally told the people from dirty dancing that it would never be anything, that that they should toss it, they should just put it out on video? I mean, I saw that movie eight times in the movie theater. I loved it, and every person that previewed that movie in the movie business said can this? It's horrible.

Speaker 2:

Right yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it's not necessarily the people. The best picture that turns out to be the one. Even though you know I do love Coda, I think that one's the best picture that turns out to be the one. Even though you know I do love coda, I think that one best picture. Do you know that movie?

Speaker 2:

coda no I don't.

Speaker 1:

Oh, oh, you have. Oh, oh, you're gonna love it. Oh, you're gonna, you're gonna love it it's about. It's about a woman, a girl, who grew up in a deaf family and she, she has, she speaks and she hears perfectly, and she has to. I think it won the Academy award a couple of years ago. It was amazing. You have to watch it. It's amazing, it's, it's, it's brilliant.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

You will. It will especially with music sound, and they do this part, talking about the sound of vibrations, where she's singing, she's singing out in the audience and her parents are there in the back and or like, hidden in the back and you, they stop the music. So we could feel what it would feel like to be for a minute to be deaf, and it's the weirdest experience. You're sitting there and you're like, oh my god, how hard it must be for them because they're giving us that experience.

Speaker 1:

She's singing and all of a sudden it goes silent and it's like silent for I mean maybe a minute and you're like, is this what they're seeing? And they're looking around and they're looking at people's faces and everyone else is able to hear this woman sing in the most beautiful way and they can't hear it. I mean it makes me cry, but it's what a great talk about sound and brilliance. You're going to love it.

Speaker 2:

I'll check it out, Adding that to my list too.

Speaker 1:

And how much we don't appreciate this idea. Like we are able to hear we're able to speak, and how it doesn't even come into our mindset how somebody else might not be able to do that. Oh, you're going to love it. Do you have Apple TV?

Speaker 2:

I do. Yes, I'll check it out.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you're going to love it. You have my shrinking too. I do. Yes, I'll check it out. Oh, you're going to love shrinking too, but you don't watch TV without the noise.

Speaker 2:

I will watch these movies with the sound on, but if it's a movie that I've already seen, I will often put it on with the sound off, because then I get to see, you know, how they designed the shot and how they designed the interior and what people are wearing and why are they wearing that and why are they wearing that as this character and why are they wearing this in this scene as this character. I like to read the film just through symbols and color and lighting, to see if what they're trying to say with their words is also being conveyed non-verbally. And they. It's amazing if you look at how they do it, because don't they leave nothing to chance?

Speaker 1:

so every frame in a movie is is filled with real intention, and if you, if you watch even the, especially the classic movies, I would say I was gonna say I wonder if it was more so in the better the better, the actor right or the actress on the facial movements and the intentions. But do you think that's still the case where every frame is being set up very intentionally too?

Speaker 2:

Yes and how, how? The, even how the eyes are lit, and the yes, especially if you're talking about movies, where they're spending a lot of money, and this is have been from the beginning of the industry. They spend lots of time and attention focusing, making sure your eye focuses on the thing that it needs to focus on. It's usually people's eyes, and if you just watch their eyes in close-ups, they say a lot too.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I should watch that. That's so interesting. And just, I do know that clothes really do make. They're very intentional with the clothes. They're intentional with you know the surrounding stuff, like what books are there and how the situation set up, and we're just not even realizing it. But you do realize it when you're watching bad movies.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Because they're, because they're not, they're not paying attention to those things. But you can even see.

Speaker 1:

It's not as deep. It's not as deep, so you don't feel it as much.

Speaker 2:

That's so interesting deep so you don't feel it as much. That's so interesting, yep, and even the, even the way they set things up can create tension in your mind without any sound. So there's a power dynamic, usually with between two people in a scene. So who, who is favor here? And you know, usually someone's sitting, the one person standing at the end of it, the chairs have switched or the power dynamic has changed in a visual way. But you have to. The cues are already there, you see them, but they're operating unconsciously.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, and that's interesting because it's true with regular life too, right? So when I noticed it with my daughter, when people would try, it's so interesting I she was a swimmer and I would notice that and I'm not saying it was conscious but there would be girls and they would come over her and they would take their hand and they would stand taller than her and literally put their hand on their head and it would make her feel small. But she didn't realize. I mean, I was, I didn't, I never noticed it. And then, once I noticed it, I actually taught her to and I remember I taught her and her friend to like move away, push the girl away and not let it happen.

Speaker 1:

But we didn't notice it before and it and I don't think that the other person notices what they're doing it's more of it is this unconscious dynamic of I'm better than you, right, you just stay small, but it is right, someone's higher than you. Or, if you ever notice, I always think about the spiritual people a lot of times. Or teachers, they put themselves above, they put them on a stool of times.

Speaker 1:

Or teachers, they put themselves above, put them on a stool, and there's like this they put them on a high chair, so you're above them and they're like below you, not in that synchronistic, unified way of being together. It's like so interesting about power and dynamics and how a lot of us very unconscious, but how we naturally do things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and even our, you know, are the rooms that we coexistence are set up in ways that Convey a power dynamic. You know, even this is interesting. Ok, tell me dynamic, you know, even this is interesting. Okay, tell me. Well, you could go to a courtroom or a police station, or even a bank, any place.

Speaker 1:

A doctor's office, you know the thing above you and it's like situated back and there's a separation.

Speaker 2:

You have to get past the first gate, and you have to, but that then you're not at the inner sanctum yet. Right, you still have to go through hallways to get to where the important business takes place. But it's all it's all like.

Speaker 1:

Further and further removed from the public, you know and that is so fat I never thought about it like that and it takes your your power away a little bit. Then they make you take on your clothes and you're in that horrible thing with you. Do you remember what was that movie where the guy's back's open and he did the dance?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it's, it's all very intentional right it's all kind of a ritual. It's a ritual of you know. Now.

Speaker 1:

But wait, it's a question. This is like the interesting question Is it a ritual for our highest good or is it a ritual to keep certain people? You know it's doctors, right? People believe doctors. Do you know that In commercials, even if the person's not a doctor, they have the guy wearing a jacket, and because the guy's wearing a jacket or a uniform, you automatically believe them more, should you? I mean, it's a very interesting idea of noticing this, and I start questioning everything.

Speaker 2:

Well, we talked about this before. I remember we talked about, remember, when they sold Clinique at department stores, all the Clinique salespeople were wearing white lab coats. Yes, but they were, which was genius, genius, genius, but they were essentially salespeople, but they were white and I you believe them or I believe them, I, I, they told me a lot of stuff and then I totally believed it and I not. I don't, I don't disbelieve it now, but it, it had power over me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I do, but I think about, think about it. When you go to the hospital, I always feel very I don't like hospitals and I don't. I don't like. First of all, I like to be well, very big on being well and feeling well. I don't like hospitals and I I my hardest part of a hospital is that I feel like there is power and I don't. And especially, and I actually think there is a difference between men and women going to hospitals or the color of our skin. Right, there's, it's been proven. And how, if a woman says that they're sick, they don't believe. I mean, I've experienced it right, so I'm to be well. But you take away people's power. If your ass is hanging out, right, it's so interesting, and I just your ass is hanging out, it doesn't even make any sense. I was like, why am I wearing this? Like we could turn it the other way, it would be much more powerful. Just saying, and it's so backwards, I didn't think of that, but you're right.

Speaker 1:

Don't you remember the movie with who's the great actor, jack Nicholson? He's in a movie and they do this dancing scene. Something's got to give. And he's in this costume and they're in and their tushy's hanging out and it is it. It gives our power away, but I think it's important, I think we're, I think we're really ready to wake up and notice where we give our power away, and not just women, but men, whatever color skin you are. I think we're always being asked to give our power away and we're not even conscious of it, and I think we're ready to. I think what Pluto and Aquarius is is that each person has the ability to take their power back as an individual and to stand in their own freedom of their mind and their thoughts and what they do with themselves. And each person, at the end of the day, is an autonomous being and has a choice.

Speaker 2:

And be free to express yourself. I wish there was more social awareness of that. You know, like Acceptance Without shame.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think we're going to have to. I think because I think, without shame or guilt, I keep thinking name-calling shouldn't work anymore.

Speaker 2:

Right Right Sticks and stones will break my bones I keep thinking, name calling shouldn't work anymore.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

But words do hurt, and they are vibrations. So Right. Right, but something about our power. It's been interesting, thought we should leave it on that. But where are we giving our? I'll say, if you guys have any like whoever's listening to this in any multi universe, where do we naturally give our power away and come like without even being conscious of it?

Speaker 1:

I don't think I'm ever going into the hospital, never going into hospital again. But if I ever go in the hospital, I am not wearing this. That's mock backwards anymore. Not wearing that mock backwards anymore.

Speaker 2:

Good for you. I never even thought of that, but I don't. I'm going to question that when I'm there again and say is it necessary for me to do this?

Speaker 1:

You know they don't do anything from your behind. It's always on your heart or on your stomach.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Anything backwards, really? Yeah, I mean, maybe they listen to your chest backwards, but they listen to this. Yep, Wait, are you not going to the hospital though, are you?

Speaker 2:

No, no time soon, no, but I, I, I know, I'll remember this when, when I do have to do that.

Speaker 1:

You are not going to do that, you are going to put it the other way.

Speaker 2:

Right, or I'm just going to say why. I mean, is this really necessary?

Speaker 1:

Well, one second if it's been done, okay, think about the rug being pulled underneath us. If we've been doing the same thing, always the same way, same thing, always the same way, you just do it. We don't even question it, right, and I think that's the rug being pulled underneath us is I think we're supposed to be questioning everything? I think why you just ask why, like okay, why am I doing that? Why are you standing above me? Why are you putting your hand there? Look at, like how people hold each other. You ever see how like a person holds another person in a certain way, anyway well, this was another great sharing experience, so yes, thank you so much for your genius and your divinity and your beautiful healing self I learned so much from you, courtney.

Speaker 1:

Thank you as I do you. It's such a honor to share time with you and such a I say this to you all the time but you're such a beautiful, beautiful human and I just think you're so special and magnificent and gorgeous and you get better looking and better looking with each week that we see each other.

Speaker 2:

You too.

Speaker 1:

He's not so good at compliments.