Mystical Misfits with Courtney and Phil
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Mystical Misfits with Courtney and Phil
Finding Power in Being Different
This episode we explore the power of individuality and self-worth, guiding listeners to embrace their unique genius amidst societal pressure. We share personal stories, reflect on resilience, highlight the significance of taking responsibility, and discuss the transformative potential of planetary influences as we explore the themes of courage, creativity, and the heroic journey within us all.
Hi Bill, it's so nice to see you.
Speaker 2:Hi, courtney, nice to see you. How was your week?
Speaker 1:Okay, well, my week was productive and good and my weekend was really nice. We had people, we had our cousins come from my sister-in-law, which my I guess she's my sister-in-law but my stepsister-in-law, but she's like a. She's my sister-in-law but my stepsister-in-law, but she's like a real sister. So she came and spent the weekend with us and we went on a wait. We did something very cool. We went on an airboat. Like, have you ever been on an airboat? No, I really don't do very adventurous things, bill, and this was a very adventurous weekend.
Speaker 2:Is that the boat with the big?
Speaker 1:fan in the back, yes, and wow, and I'm very like I get sick on boats, so I don't usually go on boats and I was like I don't know, I'm gonna go. It was amazing. It was okay, amazing, amazing. I can't wait to hear about your weekend, but it was amazing and what was amazing okay, it was really amazing in the middle of the everglades you would love this there's little houses, like little huts that people back in the early 1900s built out of how and I I'm wondering how they did this like they built these little houses in the swamp. It's not a swamp, it's a river.
Speaker 1:Who knew that? The everglades is a river? It's the longest, widest river there is, I think, or the widest river across and they actually would come all the way from the beach and go all the way out there, which is takes 30 minutes, at least 40 minutes to drive. So how the heck did they do this? And they built houses it's's amazing and little houses, and then they would have them for their weekend houses and it's really an amazing gift. And I think what's amazing is what we're capable of doing. What made me think about it is we're capable of doing anything we want to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you're right.
Speaker 1:In the middle of the swamp and it's still standing. You can do anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're completely exposed and surrounded by nature. It's not like you're in a commercial vehicle or something that's meant for pleasure or comfort. You're you're, you know.
Speaker 1:you just reach out your hand and there's an, there's lots of, there's birds, there's the smell and we watch the sunset, but I what's amazing is is how, how anyone could conceptualize an idea, an out-of-the-box idea, and make it into something right, and create something when no one else could think of it right. You can't even imagine that and even to this day, I can't imagine how they could do that, and yet they did do that. And yet they did do that. There's something profound about that right, something that's never happened before, and that you could do something.
Speaker 2:I think we humans do not give ourselves enough credit, because all of that springs from an idea or the imagination. It doesn't come down from the sky. I mean, like the finger of God doesn't point to that place and say build a house here. I mean, people might argue with me about that, but I think that often we look elsewhere for some divine reason for things. But wouldn't it be more empowering for ourselves to say you know some really amazing people who, who didn't have higher education and didn't have modern tools, and you know, but they knew about the seasons and they't have modern tools, and you know, but they knew about the seasons and they knew where to build, and they, they had to use simple materials.
Speaker 1:And these things are still there yeah, and they listened to their intuition, right, they listened to this idea that they could do it yes, exactly and even though we don't know how we could do it.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And it's us, I mean, I think that's what you're saying is it's not some God pointing through it? It's each person's own imagination and their ability to believe they can.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it's coming from within, even though it's divinely inspired, of course, but it's really coming from within and I don't think we give ourselves enough credit for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I don't think we give ourselves enough credit, for I think you're right, I also don't think we give ourselves enough credit. Or look at everybody and see how amazing we each are as individuals and where we are and what we can do. It is an amazing thing the individual, each individual being, and what each individual is capable of.
Speaker 2:Right, and so we're amazed at people who can do something very skillfully right, and for me anyway, and I wonder how, where did that come from? But they could have the same impression of me about the skills that I have that I don't give myself enough credit for. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So I do know what you mean. I think this is it's our own self-worth. I've been thinking a lot about this, right, about our own self-worth literally right I'm wondering what's in taurus. What's in taurus right now? Because self-worth is so about taurus, so I'm wondering what planets in taurus that we're having this conversation?
Speaker 2:oh, uranus oh, of course yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this idea that we're to know that we're all geniuses.
Speaker 2:And to value it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to value our own, our own ability, whatever we're good at, whatever makes us uniquely different. So you have to recognize it and you know, value it, and and and just be very self-assured about it well, and I think I think you go back to we were talking before, like in another episode, about not conforming, and so in order for each person to actually like themselves or accept themselves, there's also a need to see what's uniquely different about ourselves and then have worth about that.
Speaker 2:And yes, and be brave about it and shine your light, and I'm saying that for myself as much as anybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, yeah, I think everybody, I think we're all very similar. At the end of the day, we just have our. It's so funny because we're in a class together about speaking and this is my speech is how we're all uniquely different, and what probably makes us different is what makes us extraordinary, but we can't even see it yeah, yes might be right under our nose, our biggest gifts yeah who knows what you can do? Wait, how was your weekend?
Speaker 2:it's been uh, it was well on the day of the full moon. My car was was hit, so that was, you know, uranus in action there. But it's fine, someone backed up into my car, but they were nice enough to leave a note, so I'm in the process now of getting all that taken care of.
Speaker 1:Wait so you were parked. Okay, this is very interesting because you're parked at a spot.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Your car got hit and then the person. Just, I love that the person left a note. That's so honest.
Speaker 2:Yes, and the strange thing is, I went to my car and I noticed a little doggy bag on my windshield and I thought, well, the wind must have kicked this up, right, so I just wiped it away. And then I saw the big dent in the side of my car and I thought, oh no, and for some reason I picked up the doggy bag and there was a note in it.
Speaker 2:So, uh right, they put the note in the doggy bag like a piece of paper in a doggy bag yes, well, it was raining and that's why I thought, you know, the wind had kicked this up, and it was just.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know, this person really thought of everything. So not only did they think of writing a note, but then they put the note in a doggy bag. Okay, I love these people. Maybe you're really meant to know these people. Maybe they came into your life for a reason.
Speaker 2:Well, she was of course very apologetic, and so yes. My guess is that that full moon effect stressed her out a lot, and that's what the full moon can do to people well, I think the very fact that she backed up into me, you know she was probably completely shocked that she hit something because, for whatever reason, probably because of the rain, who knows why, but you know that, of course, would upset anybody, you know.
Speaker 1:So, anyhow, it's all people would have driven away. I think this is a really interesting because most people, if they could get away with something, yeah and so how wonderful it is that she kind of I this is my big word right now Took responsibility for her actions.
Speaker 2:Yes, so you know, and I of course thanked her and told her how much I appreciated her honesty and and such.
Speaker 1:So, yes, it's a it's it's a remarkable story, and people are heroes in their own lives and she's a hero in her own life, yeah, and I think about right the way. I think how important that that that were responsibilities are is right now, just to to. What everyone's being asked to do is either you could go unconscious and kind of like a victim in a way, or you can take responsibility for where you're at and then take action daily to make it better and to and she did that, but the lower side might have just blamed her car for being in the wrong spot.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:It was definitely your car was in the wrong spot. How dare you park your car there?
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, although I mean I was perfectly in a legit spot and I parked there all the time, and of course, I know exactly what you mean, absolutely what you mean. Oh, but I know exactly what you mean, absolutely what you mean, and you know I even when I talked to the insurance company, they wanted to find out if there was any way they could share the cost who hit me, that she was completely at fault, and so it could be a much more stressful story than it actually is, and these things happen.
Speaker 1:But I will say it's annoying and I think that that's what does bring up stuff that's hard, whether it's still something that I don't want to do, that I have to right, and it does.
Speaker 2:I have to say, when things like that happen, I have to just be careful about not letting it throw me off the horse completely. You know, like I, just if I feel like I've gotten thrown off, I just need to get right back on the saddle. So I, you know I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do and it's a long process, but it will be done and it'll be fine.
Speaker 1:And it's happening for you.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It is. I mean, there is something very I keep on going back to that. I think, how we said oh, I know all forms of suffering is is is having a desire that it be different yeah, I, I've never heard it that way, but you're right yeah, it's like the idea that, like it shouldn't be this way, I shouldn't have to do all these steps to do this work, and so I'm going to be disturbed and stuff.
Speaker 1:It's going to throw me off my course. I'm going to react in a way and I think that is full moon, I mean, but you explained this to me. So I always think the word lunatic, and then we all could be lunatics, all of us, it's like all it is is one small.
Speaker 1:I always think that, like, don't look at anyone and judge anyone, because all it takes is what you don't know, what can take you and push you over the top, and it might just be a small thing like that, and you get to choose how you react yeah, I, you know, I couldn't, you know, explain astrology to anybody who might be skeptical about it in any way, and I don't, I don't try to, I don't I.
Speaker 2:I I tell them why I think it works and how it works for me, and you know the, of course, the most immediate example is how the full moon affects the tides and us, and there's research that supports this, and we're made of 70% water, and the moon affects the tide, so there's we're impacted by it, whether-.
Speaker 1:Well, there's scientific stuff. I mean, I think there's more hospital emergencies during the full moon, right, yes, right, there's a lot of things that happen.
Speaker 2:Exactly. During that period of time, that if we studied it, Right, but I tell people that that is an example of forces that we can't see, yet they're incredibly powerful. Just like gravity and consciousness is a force, we can't see it, but it's reflected in our individual minds and collectively. But these are huge forces that we're contained in and contained by and to think that we are these lone physical individuals in an impossibly huge physical environment and we're not at all affected by the rest of it.
Speaker 1:Well, I think this is so brilliant that you're saying this. Because I think this is so brilliant that you're saying this? Because, okay, everybody I've spoken to in the last two weeks or three weeks, the same word has come up I'm very uncomfortable because I don't know what's next, literally word for word. I'm very uncomfortable because I don't know what's next in my life. Right and talk about how the container or the universe, planets are actually affecting that right, that you're not supposed to understand where you're going to be in a few months because it's going to all change and it's very uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:Now do those people who are not familiar with astrology who are feeling that way?
Speaker 1:are they?
Speaker 2:They're intuitively feeling the big shifts that are happening.
Speaker 1:They're not feeling. Okay. They think this is what's interesting. They're not feeling the forces, they're experiencing, situations in their circumstances, circumstances in their life that are reflecting or making them change right, pushing them to change. And then they're the situations because of that are are having them be in unknown territory, but they're're not. And so I say, oh it's. You think it's, you think it's the election, or you think it's who you're working for, you think it's because you're switching houses and you think it might be because you're losing your job and it's the planets that are making this happen for you.
Speaker 2:Right, so that's, that's what I've asked. Do you think that, even though they're focusing on the specifics of their lives, are they intuitively picking up something that's coming because of these planetary shifts, you know?
Speaker 1:So there, I think it's intuitive, I think we're all being. I think it's almost like okay, it's like the tides. The ocean has no control over what the tide right. Does that make sense? Whether it's going to come in or come out, and so it's just going to happen anyway and it's not going to come.
Speaker 2:It's the tides, doesn't have control over itself. It's not making decisions about what it's going to do. It's working with these forces and responding to them and respond.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I think that's the answer. I don't. I think it's not intuition. It's responding to the circumstances and you could respond in a higher way, or you could respond in a lower way, desiring okay, it would be like if the ocean was desiring to stay at this tide, that it's at right and it can't, and so you know. But I don't know if it's intuition or it's how you respond.
Speaker 1:And then I think, if you you're pushed to change or being pushed to change, right and I don't know if it's, and I think the people that maybe are more intuitive to listen are going to have an easier time. That's what I'll say. And so if they're actually doing it themselves or pushing themselves to make the difference and to shift, I think it'll be easier for them. That's what I will say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anybody who has an awareness of the planetary shifts that are coming up, I think, will not be as thrown off their horse as those who know what that, though I think it's interesting, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1:I think sometimes we can consciously know that the planetary shifts. That doesn't mean that we're not going to desire to change in the future.
Speaker 2:So I'm a little bit more prepared for it rather than not having any idea at all. Well now, if they're listening to this.
Speaker 1:if they're listening to this, they're going to be more prepared and so if things are shifting in their life, they maybe don't have to hold on so tight. I think there's that message of like that. I don't want to go into astrology so much in the sense, but it goes back to the nodal story and, in similar to your own nodal story of how much, how important it is to let to, you can't really hold on so tightly.
Speaker 2:Yes, especially now, exactly right. And so you have to, you have to surrender a little bit and you know, know, know that you're not, you're not this individual isolated being. You know that is completely autonomous, that you're, you're, you're you're a being that is swimming in a lot of different energies all the time, and the more you're aware of these energies and you don't have to accept all of them, you know. But if you're simply open to the idea that you're connected to the and connected and influenced by these energies, that's a that's a bit of a relief for me to to know that no, I know, and it was interesting because last week we talked a lot about mantras and I was so excited because I sent you this thing.
Speaker 1:Intuitively we do, if we quiet our minds enough, we kind of know what we need when we need it, and so it only happens like once in 144 years. Did you get that text? I was like I sent you this thing. It's in India. It's a very auspicious time right now in India. It's like once in every 144 years the planets line up the way they do and it's this magical time where it's so important to like use mantras and ask for your wand, and they go and bathe in the waters in India and millions of people go to this pilgrimage there and do mantras. And I thought, oh my God, Phil and I were just talking about mantras and the importance of energy.
Speaker 2:I have to look for that, courtney. I must've missed it, I know, I think you thought you did miss it.
Speaker 1:I was like, oh, I wonder. I don't know what the name is, but I it's.
Speaker 2:I'll look for it, Cause that sounds so much right up my alley as far as mantras go.
Speaker 1:but yeah, we have and you're creating your life, and how much the plant, how much like the. I will say, obviously in Hindu, the Hindu Hindus understand how important those planets are, and a lot of cultures do, and we are in this very auspicious time and we can either flow with it and swim with it and love it, or we will really suffer.
Speaker 2:Yes, and you know I'm on YouTube all the time and I'm picking up little messages and video clips of astrologers and you know, the overriding theme about the upcoming couple of years is that it's going to be quite a wild ride, and they always, most often, they'll say things like you know I probably said things like this in the past, but this time I really mean it. These next couple of years, because of how the planets are shifting, clearly indicate substantial, massive shifts.
Speaker 1:Yeah and changes right and changes. Yeah, and changes right, and and changes. It was so interesting about the houses that were built in in the in the Everglades. They built these beautiful houses Well, they're tiny houses, like they were little boxes pretty much and then the government came and was like we're going to tax you. And these people are like, well, we're, and they were going to back tax them and they actually they could. They didn't. Actually, I don't know if you know the story. The story was was that they tried to. They brought them to court and the judge decided that they didn't have to pay taxes on the houses and they didn't have to pay back taxes. They would never be taxed.
Speaker 1:They can't rebuild these houses but it was interesting because it it's its own unique thing and it didn't fit into the, the boundaries of society in a way, and they couldn't get it to fit in. But that was interesting and they found a way to do it their way and and they got away with it and right and they're beautiful. They it's actually like so amazing. Partly it's so beautiful because they appreciate them so much, because they can't rebuild them, so if they get knocked down, it's over, so you could fix them up all the time you could work on them, but you can never rent them out. You can never. It's so they're so, but they're. You see history. It's really amazing.
Speaker 2:I wonder if at one time somebody said something like what if we did this? What if we built some houses? And then people said that's crazy, no. But then another person said wait a minute, that doesn't sound like a bad, such a bad idea. And then they you know somebody's imagination came up with this and said hey people, this sounds crazy, but I've been thinking about this and there's a way to do it. And so, slowly, what seemed far fetched crazy, and now it's a part of history, you know.
Speaker 1:So again, that's- and it's been passed down from families and it was crazy If anyone told, even to this day, if you told me that I was gonna walk 30 miles or canoe 30 miles to go freaking build a house in the swamp, I would say you're crazy. But maybe what's crazy is genius. It's like that commercial. You know that Apple commercial Mm-hmm yeah, I think that's the point maybe what's crazy is genius.
Speaker 1:It's like that commercial you know that Apple commercial. Yeah, that's the point is maybe what? What we're so scared of, what we're so scared of, or what we don't understand, what we don't understand, could be something that we could look at. So right, that could end up being one of the most beautiful things ever, and it's amazing. But we don't know something about what we don't know, the beauty of what we don't know and what's possible. But we can't even imagine it. But imagine if people said no, we're not going to do that with you, we're not doing that. It won't work, can't work so right.
Speaker 2:So I think what we're talking about now and the homes that you described have all the markers of the sign of Aquarius. You know it's very much human, focused, working as a team, using your imagination, working with you know science and technology, even. You know. Even when you're building a house, you're using math and you have to get it right. So, building new communities and using the imagination to ask you know what, if, is this possible? And then doing it.
Speaker 1:I think there's going to be so much more of that if we are how important it is to be again jupiter and gemini right now open-minded about the possibilities of things, because it's if we want everything to look the same or expect it to be the same, we're going to suffer, yeah, and I think it could be so much better.
Speaker 2:Right, and so maybe people will start saying yes to more. You know far out ideas or things that seem revolutionary, but in hindsight, once they're created, they're normal, they're not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but wait, how about this? How about this? Maybe there's something even more profound is it doesn't matter if people say yes to us, that every individual is willing to have enough courage, and I mean, a lot of the planets are going into Aries, right, and so maybe it's asking us all to not care what the other person thinks, and each of us stand brave in our beliefs or what we think is possible and our own intuition, and having the courage to move forward and almost put your head down, you know, like that Aryan head, where it's like it's a ram and it rams you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's that would.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everyone could be their own hero. That way, I think we're all. I think maybe that's why we're born. I mean I know that's why I think we are. We're born alone. I mean this is going to sound very depressing and I don't mean it that way. I really don't, because I have a family and I have a lot of people in my life, but but we're born alone, naked and alone Even though we have a mom and a dad.
Speaker 1:That moment that you're born you're screaming, you're alone. I mean very Aries screaming. You need food, you need water right, you need milk. So you're screaming and you're yelling, but you're alone. Moment you're alone and then you die. And and although you can have people around you, you die alone. No, one's really dying at the same time as you. Very rarely you die alone, to the world alone. Leave the world alone. Aren't you the hero of your own story?
Speaker 2:Yes, you definitely are, and the you know the important decisions that you make there. That's internal too, and you know if you're doing something that seems a little bit unorthodox, that's your, that's your inner hero saying this must be done. You know people are telling you you have a choice or you can forget about it. But you know that you can't. You have to go for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that that voice is. I think there's a I feel. I feel as if that voice is getting louder within people, and so maybe you're right. Maybe you're right that maybe partly it is intuition.
Speaker 2:It's yes, partly it is intuition. Yes, it's definitely. I think we have a lot more power within us than we are told that we have. I think we're told that power exists somewhere else, either in a teacher or a politician, or the church a saint, someone we play at the altar to.
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know. I like the saints. I think the saints are cool because they're not real. So I don't know, I like this. But yeah, I'm not dismissing it.
Speaker 2:I'm not dismissing it. I'm not dismissing it.
Speaker 1:But if we they don't have power over. They don't have power over us, though right, exactly.
Speaker 2:So again, if we, if we could draw on the inner strength that we already have, we could, of course, talk to the saints.
Speaker 1:That's great, but not not have them be responsible for our life, and that's actually really interesting, because that's the same thing with the planets or the moon. Not not blaming, like think about that Right. I mean, in some ways you can't blame Saturn for your problems.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Oh, people do, though, but I mean yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, right you giving them power.
Speaker 1:It's so brilliant. Thank you, phil, I love you. I do love you very much.
Speaker 2:But yeah, look at that, are we giving power to things that aren't meant to be given power to Right? But I think this is my you know conspiracy theory, phil, at work, I think there's, you know, society designed in a certain way, society is designed in a certain way.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's conspiracy theory. I think that's hopeful and positive and open-mindedness.
Speaker 2:Right. I think the way that we are culturally raised, I think kind of puts us in narrow tracks, and I don't think that's accidental. I think we're educated to behave in almost regimented ways, you know it well that this is my speech.
Speaker 1:It's so interesting that this is, like, actually so funny. I love how synchronistic it is we are. We are trained from a very young age Because they'll say you're weird, Think about that Like if you, if you do something a little bit differently, the first thing will be you're weird, you, you're weird. Right and you don't want to be weird because intuitively, we're meant to need people.
Speaker 2:And it's. It is, it's a very much a defense mechanism. When people say that, when they say you're weird, why is that the first thing that comes to their mind instead of tell me more about that? Or I know so little about that, or I heard a little about it, but boy, you seem to know a lot about it. I just don't know.
Speaker 1:But they're not wanting to. I think that's. What's so interesting is that we're we're trained from a very young age to conform and then to not hear opposing views, Right, Right. And so if you think anything different, you're just shamed right away and then so then you stay with other people that are weird or also shamed. Right, I mean, and then it's amazing, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the thing is, you know there's there's a reason why this is done and the idea is to you know, have society function efficiently. To have society function efficiently and you can argue this for the betterment, security of everybody. I mean, that could be argued pro or con, but the idea is fall in line, don't make waves, do your job, pay your taxes and stay out of jail, yes, but are we dying inside?
Speaker 1:I think there is the answer. I think each time I was having this conversation. Each time you don't listen to your gut listen to your gut?
Speaker 2:do you somehow dampen your brightness? I think every, every person on the planet has that conversation with themselves, that very thing that you just said. What do you?
Speaker 1:mean.
Speaker 2:Whether when they ask themselves are they?
Speaker 1:this is my question, because at some point have you not listened so long that you can't?
Speaker 2:ask yourself anymore. I'm.
Speaker 1:I'm. I'm actually wondering that right, if you, if you gone along and you fit into the norm and you just have behaved the way society has wanted you to behave, thought the way society wants you to think, and I don't know if I wonder, I wonder this I wonder if each person could be their own individual selves here. Here's a question for you to ponder. If everyone could be their own individual selves, maybe we would make the right choices. I don't know, because I get what you're saying, that in some ways there has to be rules. Yes, I don't know. Maybe power will always come back in, maybe there's no way around power, and in order to have power, people have to have control.
Speaker 2:Right. But I think the ultimate goal is to reach the end of your life and not really have a lot of regrets, right, and to know that you know you took the route that had the fewest bumps on it. You know, and if you're okay with that, then that's great. But if you have to look back on your life and say, you know, I, I had this feeling that I should have done that and I didn't listen to it. And at the end of your life you know it, that, whether or not you listen to it, and that's a difficult, difficult feeling to have.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that's the most important message right now. I really do I mean I, if I would say one through all this transition and where we're at in our in in the planetary realm, and what we're all being asked to is to really, truly listen to our soul and see what it's calling us to do, and not apologizing for going to do it.
Speaker 2:So all this, this turbulence, this change can be usually beneficial. I mean it can be. It can light a path for people that they only dreamed about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think, and I think the people that have the courage to, the more you have the courage to, the more you have the courage to walk in the unknown. Yes, which I think is I always go back to the hero's path. And do you know the tarot cards?
Speaker 2:A little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I always go back to the hero's path and the gift of the fool, and the fool is. So. It's a picture of a fool, of a person, and I think it's actually joker like, which is interesting because it's very gemini and right and then it's walking off the cliff. But, what's interesting, it has a sack and the sack's holding like all the tools that this man has had or this person, this you know figure, has. So each of us is on this journey and we all have our tools, some that were been brought it, that we were born with, and some that we have acquired over the years. And there's this ability to walk off the cliff and you don't know how you're going to be, okay, you don't know where it goes to, but trusting that you have all that you need to.
Speaker 1:And there's this little dog right, and the little dog's like saying don't go, don't go. And that's that little voice Don't go, don't go. It's too scary over there. It's like the little self pulling you back. So are you going to? Are you going to jump off the cliff or well?
Speaker 2:I'll say are you going to step off the cliff, bill? I really feel like I am, but I you know that the dog is barking loudly at the same time. But yeah, I do feel that I am in the process of moving a really big ship in a different direction.
Speaker 1:I like that and you're steering it right. So you are the ship, you are the ship, you're steering it, and sometimes, right, I think, go back to the ocean, there's going to be crashes. So what do you do? So let's see, let's see how you're going to do it. So I'm a big ship, you're a big ship, and you're steering it the way you want to. And then what happens when the waves crash into it? I guess you have to adjust.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even if the sea was smooth, it does take time to change your course and move in that direction. So that's how I'm conceptualizing it. You know, each day and each step I'm taking is moving me in that new path.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm seeing it like. I'm seeing it not just as situational, but also how you're showing up in your own body. I mean, I see that with you every week you seem to get even more. I said this to you it's so funny last time but you get more handsome, calmer, and so even just making the changes within our own body and our own mindset is so important, versus maybe just the circumstances of it all. But who we believe we are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think it's good to look back. You know, and using the, you know the club that we're in, the club that we're in. If I were to look back at my first efforts to engage with this group I couldn't get my camera to work, I couldn't get my camera to focus I would be looking off screen and thinking I would be looking in the right directions. These are all rookie mistakes that I made and they were big issues for me at the time because I was learning. So, even though I feel like I'm still steering the ship, I want to look back and say I am going in the right directions, because if I compare myself then to where I am now, I've really come a long way. I think, and everybody would do themselves a huge favor if they just took a moment to do that as well, especially if they're thinking that this is too much of a struggle. The climb is back to where, where you feel like you first began to take that first step, and I think you'll see that you know you've made.
Speaker 2:Oh, you've done so much better. Yes, no.
Speaker 1:I'm saying to you but yeah, everybody right has done. There's been so much growth for everybody.
Speaker 2:And that that you can apply that in any area of your life.
Speaker 1:You know whether you want to be perfect already. I think that goes back to this, the lower side of what we're at now, right, this idea of we want it to be perfect when we start, this idea of we want it to be perfect when we start, but without starting somewhere and just improve, getting a little better each day, you're never going to get to the perfection that you want If you don't actually take the first step. You'd be so, at least I think. Actually, if you take the first step, you're a winner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're. Yeah, I completely agree. You've already succeeded. You've already succeeded by taking the first step. You're a winner. Yeah, yeah, I completely agree. You've already succeeded.
Speaker 1:You've already succeeded by taking the first step, because yesterday you didn't take the step. So if you took the step and you could look back at just taking one step right, I think sometimes I'm like that's enough, it's really enough. Yeah, it's so interesting because my microphone was not plugged in in the beginning of the call and I think it's a metaphor for this whole situation. We're not always going to do it right, we're not always going to do it perfectly, and I adjusted it and I realized that now it's on and so in the beginning of the call it might not have sounded good and now it does. And we can't always control situations, but we can always try to improve it. In the moment, I do think you've gotten so much better and I will say in six months from now, I'm going to get, look back. And you're going to look back and be like wait, oh my God, I'm even better, exactly.
Speaker 1:Do the work and you have to be intentional. And I and I appreciate the climbing the mountain because I think if you want to do anything really well, there is a climb.
Speaker 2:There there is a climb, there is a process, there is. Your legs are going to hurt a little bit, yes, and you know there's. There's some kind of divine reason for that that. We're human beings in a physical world where we have to, we have to exert a lot of effort in everything we do. Even now, when we have all the modern conveniences, we have to exert a lot of effort to progress through life. We have so many skills that we have to learn. I mean more and more and more. We have so many skills that we have to learn. I mean more and more and more. We have so many responsibilities. Every day we have a to-do list that we have to check off in order to To live, to live, just to live.
Speaker 1:How come they don't say this? This is my thing, right. Why are they not telling the truth? Life is not meant to be easy. Like, who told you life's supposed to be easy? Like it's just not in order to wake up and just go and wake up and do your daily existence. It's a lot of work and then and then be like it's not easy. I'm like I don't know who told you it was supposed to be easy. Like, where do we come into the society in this world? And we believed it was supposed to be easy.
Speaker 2:I mean, I keep wondering that, right, and you know I think about people who have all kinds of added challenges to you know, whether they're it's a physical disability or a mental disability or whatever, financial I mean, I think financial.
Speaker 1:I go back to that. I think that's one of the hardest things. I mean it goes back to the Maslow effect. If you literally don't have food and shelter, it is so much harder to be human.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1:And now, we're seeing a lot of people without food and shelter and homes.
Speaker 2:And all of that, living in that way, is heroic in itself. You know, that's heroism the, the, the step stepping off a cliff every day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and braveness and talk about braveness to courage, to keep going, even though and I think that's the great, greatest thing we can do is that Maybe not having a desire, changing our desires and not having need to be different, and maybe appreciating exactly where we're at?
Speaker 2:I just think it takes a mighty amount of effort and bravery and faith. A mighty amount of effort and bravery and faith, All those important things that are not tangible they motivate everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I always say that maybe what we can't see is the most beautiful things in the world. I think love is an invisible force. We see manifestations of it everywhere, but it's not something that you can physically point to or weigh or measure. But love is an energy. It's why we're here. I mean, that's indisputable, but I still think you'll see meet people who are just not going to embrace that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I think that we're.
Speaker 1:I love love is invisible, but we know it like we can't explain and most people what their definition of love would be is very different, but there is this knowing in your heart, in your soul, and I think we could each allow ourselves to get that feeling of love every moment. And I think there's what you just said is embracing it, embracing that, the divine energy of love, and I think it is an energy. It is an energy, right. You can't see it, you can't explain it. What's love to me might look totally different to love to you, right? We each have our different love languages. I think ours are very similar. We like to talk, right? I think that you don't.
Speaker 1:You feel close to people when you can have conversations with them sure yeah, but now other people, that's not their love language and so they have a different love language. But yeah, love is an interesting thing. It is invisible and it's probably the greatest, isn't that a song? The greatest gift of all? That way to Houston, oh great.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is yes yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you know the words you cause? You're such a good singer. I keep thinking you're meant to be a singer. Do you want to sing it to us?
Speaker 2:I don't know the words, I don't think, uh, and I couldn't do it justice the way, uh, whitney Houston could as the way Whitney Houston could.
Speaker 1:I wonder you, must have a lot of like talk about someone who is so, has the highest quality of Pisces right the ability to sing and connect in the divinity and you never heard a more beautiful angelic voice in your whole world but then also had a very hard time with drugs and alcohol. It's like almost like she was godly and she was love. I mean, I think about her, so I love her, I love her, she, she was. She allowed us to cross bridges that a lot of people didn't want to be crossed both sides. You know it's an she's a very interesting story. It'd be interesting we should check her chart out. We should do that. We should actually look at her chart and see what's in Pisces and talk about it, Because I think it would be very helpful to people to understand the energy of Pisces, the high side and the low side, yeah, and her voice was from God.
Speaker 2:I mean, the sound of her voice was just unbelievable.
Speaker 1:And her words and she was love. I mean, she really was love, and I think sometimes there's, I think sometimes that's even harder. It's almost like the darkest. The lightest lights have the darkest darks yeah, very, very piscean yeah, I can't wait to see what she has.
Speaker 1:I think that's very interesting. We'll have to check that out. Maybe we'll do. We will do that on the next call. Maybe it'll be like a pisces moon or something and we can have, we can delve right into that pisces energy. But I there has to be something that's very pisces with her but this is the first day of pisces, isn't it?
Speaker 2:it's today, or it's coming up this week oh is it.
Speaker 1:Are we going into? The sun has been Pisces.
Speaker 2:Is it shifted Okay?
Speaker 1:So next week, let's see I'm going to, let's find, let's do that. I think that would be really interesting. Just for one moment, look at a chart and talk about that, because maybe there's a message in it for for us to go letting go and letting God of it. On the higher side, we could see someone's. I think that's a beautiful gift of looking at somebody's life and seeing how maybe we don't have to make the same mistakes that they do and we could be love. She was love.
Speaker 2:Right, and you know the, the, the. I guess the biggest challenge for any of us would always be to overcome those challenges that appear. You know the, the, you know it's. It's a roadmap. It doesn't dictate anything because everybody makes their own choices. But if you look at a chart, you can see areas, sensitive points, sensitive areas that need that are, you know, calling out for a resolution or some kind of conclusion or achievement, and those are. It's interesting how, based on the chart, everybody has those different areas.
Speaker 1:You know, for some people, do it, and I think that really is this map and this guide that we could either do it a high the highway or we could really suffer.
Speaker 2:Right, and wouldn't it be so helpful if everybody just looked at this, as you know, not to determine their future and not to determine anything specific, because everybody makes their own decisions, but just to show them the qualities that are to take care of themselves, to know themselves better. What greater?
Speaker 1:gift Like you go to the moon right, and each of us has. I actually think the moon go back to the tides it. Our moon has more effect on us than our sun and very few people know their moon sign. It's my goal to get everyone to know their moon sign and take care of their moon, because your moon matters and you might not be feeling good because you know you're not going outside right.
Speaker 2:So or walking in nature, or yeah, all those things or swimming in the water, swimming or reading?
Speaker 1:I don't know. If I don't read, I get a little moody. What about you?
Speaker 2:what makes you books and music. That's my. They make you less moody right yes, that that's my home base. That's where I get recharged I that's where I get lost for hours and just feel like I'm. I am not not only nurturing, but I'm getting nutrition. For some reason, it feels like I think of home right, Cause I think I think of when you're speaking.
Speaker 1:I thought you feel at home, and that's exactly what the moon is. It's that home, that energy of home. Yes, yeah, well, may may everybody that's listening to this feel at home, or choose to feel at home, or have the courage to go on their hero's journey and start. Start imperfectly, because if we could do it, so could you. If we're here actually making this and putting it out in the world, even if we're not we, anyone could do it Anyone could do anything we could do this.
Speaker 2:Right and you will get support. You'll support will come. Just take the first steps.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I hope, if you, if you're listening to this and you made it, thank you so much for listening to us and, like it, subscribe to us and and come on this mystical journey with us, right Cause it's life is filled with the unknowns, but we could all help each other through it. So thank you, phil, for helping me through it, and thank you for meeting with me every week and making my life more loving and more fulfilling, and I appreciate how big your heart is.
Speaker 2:And thank you, courtney, for making this available to me and inviting me to join you on this. It's been so much more than I could have ever imagined and you're you're helping me in so many ways and I hope that in some way that I can pass along that help, that you oh, my God, you're helping me.
Speaker 1:I just said to you you're helping me in so many ways.
Speaker 2:Just with you and sharing time with you helps me.
Speaker 1:Let go a little bit more. It's nice, right? I think it's very meant to be so kismet. There is definitely something very mystical about it. And my husband brought home bars by the way, I have to send them to you. They're called Misfit Bars. He was at some kind of show or something for target and they, I guess the company who so? Maybe, hey, who knows, Maybe one day we'll have like a sponsor and we can have the misfits bar. You never know. I don't know. I haven't tried them yet, so we'll have to see. I hope they're good.
Speaker 2:Well I, if next time I'm in target.
Speaker 1:I'm going to take a look for misfit bars. I don't know if they're in target yet. It was like a. It was like some kind of conference where they were selling.
Speaker 1:They were trying to get picked up by target I see so I don't even know what they are, but we maybe they're starting out like we're starting out and they're okay but I I'll say I think it's great, you know, I think it's great to be a misfit because you don't have to conform, you don't have to fit into a box and I don't think anyone that's listening to us should conform or fit into a box. And as the last days of Aquarius sun to appreciate your, what would you say?
Speaker 2:Your, your originality, yeah, your uniqueness, your awkwardness and that if, if you are feeling like a misfit, that means that you, you, you have something to do. You know if, if, if, if something is moving you in that way that puts you kind of in a little bit of an outsider category, then you have there's a responsibility that goes with that. You know a lot of a lot of pain, sure, but there's, it's a calling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'll say thank you for for taking the call Literally. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait till next week, cause I you never know what we're going to talk about, but I think we should do it and I think that'd be an interesting conversation, okay.
Speaker 2:That sounds great.
Speaker 1:I will miss you and I will miss everyone who's listening to us.
Speaker 2:Thanks, courtney, take care, thank you.