Mystical Misfits with Courtney and Phil
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Mystical Misfits with Courtney and Phil
Astrology Weather June 9- 16, 2025: What if what you believed wasn't true?
In this week’s episode, we explore the liberating truth-telling energy of the Full Moon in Sagittarius and how it invites us to question everything we think we know. From the limitations of our education system to the beliefs that keep us stuck, this is a call to awaken your inner explorer.
We also dive into:
- 🌕 The power of belief under the Sagittarian moon
- 🌊 Jupiter's return to Cancer and what it means for you
- 🔐 Why structure might be the key to real freedom
- 💬 Mercury in Cancer and the need for mindful communication
- 🔮 Practical tools to stay centered while the cosmos shifts
This episode is a blend of astrology, soul wisdom, and grounded insight designed to help you realign with your truth and your path.
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happy monday happy monday, courtney it's all moving into cancer.
Speaker 1:So I think I I hit you at your heartstrings yes, yes, you sure did which is it's good wasn't planning on it, but I, I love you, phil I love you anyway, I'm so grateful to be here with you. It's Monday and we had a scorpionic weekend and we're moving towards a very full moon and energy is we're awake. Maybe we're a little loony, Maybe we feel a little like a lunatic. Mm-hmm, we're a little loony. Maybe we feel a little like a lunatic.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. Well, I'm hoping that, because it's a Sag moon, that there'll be some wisdom imparted to us, either together or individually.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I do, I appreciate, I actually appreciate the energy of the full moon, because what I think it is is that it is wisdom. It's like what do we need to see so we could then let go of things? I love, I love full moons and I'll say, maybe I always think sometimes how the word lunatic is. Maybe sometimes people that are the lunatics maybe they're the most sane, right, like. I always think like how it's how we choose to see things and a lot of times people that people say are crazy are actually people that say things that are different than how everyone else is saying them. So sometimes I do feel like a little bit of a lunatic and I'm a little different than other people, which it's good. Being different, it's good.
Speaker 2:It is good.
Speaker 1:So hopefully they won't cart me away. I always say don't cart me away.
Speaker 2:Well you well, you're, you know that you're in a very, you're in a position that's away from the pack, which gives you a very, you know individual perspective and one that is not commonly shared, but the commonly shared ideas are they're easy things to think about, and it's for many people.
Speaker 2:I think it's easier just not to think about too the truth that you are a part of the cosmos, you are thinking, breathing, part of everything. That's a hard concept to retain for me, but a lot of people just dismiss that completely. They just completely shut down. They don't even consider the possibility that they're deeply connected to everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I think that's so interesting about wisdom and, how you said, with the full moon, I hope that wisdom comes, and I think that is what you're talking about. Is that there's, that's faith, right? Is that we're all connected to something, connected to each other, connected to the planets and the universe? And I think it is too hard to question the truth. I mean, I do think you're right, it would, because I think we'll be learned if you do choose to question it. It doesn't stop. It's like this never ending road. Sometimes it's just easier to not question.
Speaker 2:Right, because your whole perspective changes and these are not ideas or beliefs that were taught in school. In fact, I think we're pressured not to believe in them because it's outside traditional ideas, but that's so interesting Modern ideas.
Speaker 1:This weekend. This weekend I was reading something and it was from CS Lewis. I really wasn't reading it, but I was like I went down this little bit of a I go down these rabbit holes, and it was like CS Lewis and it was 1948. And he was saying how the education system doesn't want you to be a thinker.
Speaker 2:That's right 1948.
Speaker 1:I mean, and Steiner Rudolf Steiner and I think it was 1920s talked about that, so it's been a conversation forever. We're really not about to think Right, we're we're we're pressured to conform.
Speaker 2:That's that's what I think, and I think schools are set up to pressure us to conform.
Speaker 1:that's that's what I think, and I think schools are set up to pressure us to conform do what life is right if you want to go to this company and work in this company, right, yeah, I. I could never conform. I can never, I, never, I. I always said the best thing I think that ever happened to me in school is that I didn't hear one thing. It was like didn't you learn that in school? Like I don't think I learned anything in school. I don't really I was completely in la-la land.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did a lot of daydreaming at my desk at school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the creative people do. My daughter used to do all these googly things and she would draw all these pictures and I I think, in a way, maybe we're so intuitive that we're protecting ourselves from what we don't need to know, cause now I'm a really good learner, so I don't know if I don't daydream as much anymore. I mean, I still daydream, but I'm a really good learner now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think it's because you are pursuing things that really interest you, so you're excited about those things. I know that's the way I feel about what I'm learning now. It's a pleasurable thing to do. I was watching, do you like Joan? I love learning. Now it's a pleasurable. It's a pleasurable thing to do.
Speaker 1:I was watching. Do you like Joan? I love Joan Rivers. Do you like Joan Rivers? Yeah, so I was watching some kind of like tribute on her and I have like paper. I was wondering cause you have a lot of Gemini energy. But I was wondering I have papers everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, and I write all these notes. And she has literally papers everywhere and I write all these notes and she has literally papers everywhere and she had file cabinets of all her jokes and I was like, oh my God, I love her. I think she had a very strong Gemini energy personality.
Speaker 2:She was a Gemini and you must've seen the documentary. They did a documentary.
Speaker 1:I have to rewatch that but I have to rewatch that. This was like a tribute to her. They were raising money for it was like on NBC, and they were raising money for her to for some program in New York, like for a food delivery program that she oh, wow, yeah, because in the documentary she you can see the filing cabinet.
Speaker 2:She goes through and talks about how she organizes and organizes all the jokes. And she, you know she had her her desk calendar that she carried everywhere. And she, you know she's talking about how she does it all old school. So she'll put little post-its in there and that's what I do things out and that's what I do.
Speaker 1:That's so interesting. I just what a game changer I was and I it's so interesting just because I have been really finding a lot of people with like Aries energy too, and she had an Aries ascendant and she just was such a pioneer and such a game changer and she changed comedy and she changed what it was to be a woman and she changed I don't know A lot.
Speaker 2:There was an intelligence that shone through with her too.
Speaker 1:I think she was just witty and she was fast and yeah, and a new yorker, which I really, and a new yorker and jewish and very funny about being jewish and was very honest about what it was to be jew. I thought that was interesting. She's just very I loved her and I did. I was I meant to text you because I thought of you. I was like just there's this brilliance about her. That's kind of how I feel about you, phil. I think you're brilliant. I think you have so much to share and every time I hear you speak, you just light a fire in my mind. It's like you wake me up.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, I'm. I'm working on something that I'm going to share, and I think I told you about it. You know how, how to bring the planets into the body and use that energy in a really healthy and productive way. So I'm like you, I'm digging into my books and doing research, and it doesn't seem at all dry or like homework to me, because I feel like I'm, you know, like Sherlock Holmes with my spyglass. You know, searching, searching and trying to connect the dots. It's fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and getting more and more information, and then it changes, right, like it's never the same and it just keeps moving forward because we're we're. What I think so interesting is we're not stagnant, because it's always shifting and always moving and so when you're you ever notice, you just pick up the right book or the right information and right when you need it, it's like the more information comes.
Speaker 2:Yep, and you have those little light bulb moments which they're yeah, that that's, that's what I get excited about and I, I love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it too. I love I think I will forever be learning when it comes to this concept and I think we're really being meant to question it all and keep on moving forward with it too. So it's really beautiful. So I'm so grateful you're doing that and I'm so grateful that you're doing it now, especially just because of how I know your chart. Okay, so wait, let's see if I can open. Can you see my screen?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's open it up. Oh wait, oh okay. So let me ask you a question. I have a question for you. I do. I keep on thinking that we're supposed to have. Do you like it with the little aspects in it, or do you prefer not having the aspects? Either way is fine, okay. So I guess we'll try it today with the aspects and see what happens. So we're today, it's monday and it's moon's day. So I'm always so grateful because we spend our time, you know, on the day of the first day I think it's the first day of the week and we get to be together every monday and then we get to share this information with people. So I'm so grateful to be here on the moon's day, and I am so grateful that the moon went in Sagittarius today. It feels very hopeful.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Very hopeful. So wait, you can't really. Can you see? The Sagittarius is down here, right here. Can you see that? Because on my screen I can't see it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's cut off at the bottom.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, I will say this is the Sagittarius moon and it's across wow that it's been across from neptune. I mean, that's so interesting to me no yeah, I know, from uranus.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, interesting, interesting, interesting. I didn't even think about that. I I always like look at the chart first thing in the morning, every morning, when I wake up, just to see what the messages of the day, and I write a message out and I didn't even realize that, wow, wow, it's gonna be really interesting. So I will say to you, if you, you know, what I love about the Sagittarius moon and I and I, I think it's such a concept is is, if you, if you believed in yourself completely, if you didn't underestimate yourself, what would you do? And I think Monday is such an interesting day of like. Where are you underestimating yourself as we move towards this full moon? Not you, everybody, right. Interesting day of like. Where are you underestimating yourself as we move towards this full moon? Not you, everybody, right, like we're all these people and we believe our, we believe I go back to sagittarius. What we believe might not be true, especially like I was thinking like it might not be true, like how about if everything we believed wasn't true?
Speaker 2:right and that you, if everything that you believe might not be true, then your life really becomes more of an adventure. Right, and I think that the adventure archetype has a lot to do with Sagittarian energy. So how can you think about yourself as an adventurer and that life really is an adventure? Life really is an adventure. And if that's the case, what would you do to step out and assume the role of adventurer?
Speaker 1:I love that. Well, yeah, and it's the adventure the guru, right, and I thought that was so interesting, just because what you were speaking about and how you were getting more information. And we look at the Gemini sun, right, and how it's like, right there, Jupiter's still right there and you're like you're getting more and more information, and so then when the Sagittarius moon is full, it's how do I then take that information and then become the guru and mentor people and share it with people? It's just, it's an interesting. It's an interesting concept of always wanting to get more information but not not having it be so chaotic. I love, I love that and I think, I think life's an adventure. It's like, what is the meaning of it all If, if you know what you think you know already and you're not trying to get more information or learn? I mean, god, how boring would that be?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but also safe. You know it's safer to not believe too much, not to not believe too much. You know, if you really believe, then you're really stepping out and you're really letting your heart lead the way. You know your heart is bypassing your mind and you're just going for it. You know which is exhilarating.
Speaker 1:It's an exhilarating feeling to do that, yeah, and scary I do think it's not. Yeah, that whole idea of safety, I mean it's interesting, right, because jupiter is about to go into cancer and it's also mercury, and so where we feel safe, what do we feel safe with? And that feeling of safety, but it I? Okay, when you said that we don't hit me, phil, we could think we're being safe, but is it making us unhappy? Or is there a depression in that or sadness in that? Because if we're not being our highest selves and we're scared, right, we come from fear, that's. It could hurt us, it could really hurt our hearts, it could break our hearts literally. So is it really safe? I don't think so. Actually, I think it's quite the opposite of safe.
Speaker 2:In reality? Yes, it is Absolutely, because you're going to atrophy if you stay safe. Your heart is going to get smaller and your breathing is going to get shallower, and you're going to be overly cautious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I think of that shell of the turtle, right, the the idea of like that cancer and energy, of well, if we put our shell up, we're just. Are we going to? Are we going to miss so much? Are we not going to see things right If we don't like stick our head out? Right, doesn't the turtle have like the head and like moves out and it's like, let me, let me just see just a little bit. Yeah, it is interesting, phil, it's very interesting. Life is so interesting and I think I do love that adventure. I think that is the greatest idea. How do I move this? Oh, I love that idea of the adventure. I think that's such a beautiful idea for the next couple of days. Is what if I went on an adventure?
Speaker 2:Yes, take, just go, take a different route, you know. Go go off your beaten path a little bit or do that thing that you've always said you would do. But you already gave your all. You immediately gave yourself a reason not to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's interesting because I was thinking about okay, perfect day, tuesday, tuesday, so this is Tuesday's energy, and I was thinking about. I was thinking about how Jupiter's are 12 year cycle. So the last time that Jupiter was in cancer was 12 years ago. So what year? What if we're 2025? That'd be 2013. So what were you doing in 2013?
Speaker 2:yeah, I was working a lot, traveling, traveling a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and would you do it differently? Like what would you do differently? I think that's a. This is it's an interesting idea of like the blocks of time, so. So, for instance, did you hear of this? It's like when you have your Jupiter return, so I don't know what your Jupiter's in, but like if people have their Jupiter return, right, if you're an astrologer, people have their Jupiter return, right. If you're an astrologer and you have Jupiter return, then the Jupiter return, like when you're 12, is so the first house. Then you turn 12 and then you go into the second house and then you turn 24, you go into the third house, right, right, 36 is fourth house. So I think I know 48 is the fifth house, 60 is the sixth house, right, 72 would be the seventh house. It's just interesting. Anyway, then you would, that's where you would focus your energy on. So, based on your age. So if you're, if you're between, like, how old are you?
Speaker 2:65.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you would be in the sixth house of service. So right now it's like where do you want to put energy? Into being of service, to making a difference in the world, to improving the world, right, and? And look you are, look at, you're doing your jupiter very well. I love it. And I'm, how old am I? I'm 50, so that would be the fifth house. So my creativity, working on my creativity and having fun yes so that's a very interesting thing.
Speaker 1:I thought, oh, that's very fun. I actually had like a little note that I had like notes all over my house and I was like, wow, I have to remember that because there's so much to remember with astrology and what matters and what's important, and I think that's kind of important, it's a good thing to remember. So what's today? So, and I think that's kind of important, it's a good thing to remember. So what's today? So today is Tuesday, that would be Mars's day, and so Mars is at the end of Leo and it's trining. Oh, wow, interesting. Look at that. Look at that. It's trining Eris.
Speaker 1:And you know, I really I think of Eris, but I think Eris is really important, and Chiron, that's actually really interesting, it's trining. So on Tuesday, mars's day, that is so fascinating because I'll say to you how I see Eris is how do you be your best self and not compare yourself to where other people are? And if you are comparing yourself, where are you underestimating your own self? And then, if I was underestimating myself, where would I be willing to be seen? And then, if I was underestimating myself, where would I be willing to be seen?
Speaker 2:Right, pretty, I see the chart is still on Monday, courtney.
Speaker 1:Oh wait, oh I. Well, that's interesting because I see it on Tuesday. So how do I? Hmm, okay, we'll stop share and we'll share it again. That's so funny. Thank you, cause I saw it as Tuesday. Okay, how about now? You? See it now is Tuesday. Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:Looks great.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I was talking about Mars here and trining Eris. I do like the aspects in it. It makes it a little easier to see.
Speaker 1:Yes, definitely Okay but we're all meant to shine. I mean, I think we're all. We're all children of God, if you want to say, or the divine source. We're all very special and we're all meant to be seen. And if, if we're let's look at errors If we had rivalry or jealousy or something of like a bothered about what someone else is doing, could it be actually a message for me or for us to then take action so that we could shine? I think this is. I think we're at this critical point right now of stepping up and being brave and courageous.
Speaker 2:And Jupiter's just entering cancer on Tuesday too, and zero degrees cancer is just entering cancer on Tuesday too, at zero degrees cancer. So I think that's going to create a positive shift because Jupiter's really at home in cancer, exalted there. So there's going to be wind on our back for everyone now that Jupiter's there.
Speaker 1:I like that Wind on our back. Yeah, it's makes me think of that song Wind Beneath my Feet by Bette Midler. Do you remember that song?
Speaker 2:Sure do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's just so, interesting though it's, I think the wind comes from ourselves, right, it's like a my heart, just my heart, hurts so much because I keep on thinking about how I wish everyone knew their own divinity or their own perfection already, and that there's nothing wrong with we.
Speaker 1:It's funny because we were talking about lunatic, right, and that word lunatic and as we're going to the, towards the full moon, just the negative kind of idea when we're different than somebody else, or when we don't fit in, or, and it's interesting. I mean, you know, mercury is out of bounds, and I keep on thinking how, being very I'll say to you over the next couple of weeks just being very careful with what we say, because it could come across like people are very sensitive when, when mercury is in cancer, a little bit right. So the next month and our words have a way of hurting people, but also we could end up saying things that maybe we don't mean, because we're just out, we're almost out of bounds, we're out of awareness of our kind of could go a little bit. We could respond from an emotional way, and so, if you're responding from an emotional way, take a breath before reacting.
Speaker 2:Yes, or count to five backwards. Do something that brings you back into balance before you say something that is not going to feel good for anybody, Because it can make you. I mean, when I say things that I wish I hadn't, I there's some satisfaction about blurting it out. It's like like letting off steam, but it doesn't make me feel good, Doesn't you know? I regret it. It makes me it's like getting a little, you know, getting high and then coming down off of it, and it, you know, you just get that rush of adrenaline and you just explode and then you want to take it all back and you, you feel, you feel guilty about it afterwards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you would, yeah, not to feel guilty. Right, it's this like I think we should be careful with. I listen, I, if I was like telling my own children, I would say, just be cautious of your words and before you react in an emotional way, just take a breath. I think there's something so important about us learning to take breaths before we speak. And I think even the wind beneath there's a wind right, and so we just letting the wind come through us or something. Just I love that. A wind pushing us, but it does. It feels very, feels, very windy, but it does.
Speaker 2:It feels very, feels very windy, feels very windy.
Speaker 1:I love it, which is, which is exciting, it's, it's it is exciting.
Speaker 1:I think we're at a very exciting time and I don't think we have to be who we were yesterday and so it's like uh, I love the Jupiter word, of opportunity, opportunity. I was, I, um, I've been talking to my daughter a lot about, about, and everybody actually, including my husband and everyone who will hear from me and then, like my clients, is, you are hearts. If, how about like Phil, like I don't know, you're going somewhere today, so I'll give you a try. This it's so fun. So you're going someplace today, so I'll give you, I'll try this, it's so fun. So you're going someplace today, so we met a little earlier, so you're going to go someplace Now. Wherever you go, have like intentionally walk with an open heart, so like be super, like opened, move your body into people, let people see you and see how they respond differently, cause it's amazing If there's a feeling that happens when you intentionally open your heart.
Speaker 2:Yes, yep. And I think you know we're in a vibratory field. You know we're vibratory entities in a vibratory field. You know we're. We're vibratory entities in a vibratory field and there's lots of vibratory things happening beyond our capacity to see or fully understand it. But just because we can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. I mean, think about electricity or gravity. These are powerful forces that are the foundation of our reality but we don't see them. There's lots of vibratory energy going on. We emanate this energy and we receive it.
Speaker 2:So if you can somehow bypass the mind and go to the heart and just bring your attention to your heart space and let that lead the way and be fully open, knowing that you know you might feel uncomfortable because it feels a little bit exposed, but you're generating so much powerful energy here that it blows all of that stuff away and I and I see that energy in other people. I can see it. You have that. Lots of people I know have that. It's something that you can't see with your eyes, but you feel it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love the way you said electricity. It's like you can't see it, you, but you feel it. Yeah, I love the way you said electricity. It's like you can't see it, you don't know how it really works, and yet we light our whole house up and can each person be a light unto each other? Right, it's like it makes me. It does make me think of Leo, and how right that bars and Leo on Tuesday, just how important it is to be brave. Thank you for the compliment. Thank you for seeing my heart and feeling my vibration, because I feel yours too. I, I, I feel like we create energy just by getting on the phone. So you're we. There's like this natural love that shows up because we let each other in right exactly so it's a open your heart.
Speaker 1:So I was like there's a Madonna song talking about brave. Do you know?
Speaker 2:that song, that song, I love that song.
Speaker 1:I, I love that song too, and I, I, I remembered I I forgot this whole story, but I just remembered this that I was like in sixth grade and I got on the stage and did dance to that song, and now I must have not been so good, by the way, and which is fine, that's the whole point. Does it matter? Like? I think that's embarrass yourself, just embarrass yourself. I think that is the intention of Leo, is not to take yourself so seriously and be willing to make a fool of yourself, and people will love you for it.
Speaker 2:People will love you for it. They you know, if you if you're less than perfect on stage, you can feel people, the audience, being supportive of you. They want you to do your best and even if it's not your best, they love you even more.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that and I love that, as we're going into the full moon, I think what's interesting is well, let's change the hour, let's say, let's say it's at. I think the full moon maybe is at one. It will be, I think it's at one one. I think it's 1 am. Did it switch?
Speaker 2:it's on june 11th now, yeah okay, perfect.
Speaker 1:So I think it would be the full moon, yeah, pretty much. So it'd be one something, but that's pretty much what the full moon will look like. So full moon, yeah, pretty much. So it'd be one something, but that's pretty much what the full moon will look like. So full moon will be Wednesday, when we're sleeping, actually, right, that's at our time. So I guess you in California it would be on the 10th, interesting enough, but full moon Wednesday. So if you have crystals, put them outside, I think, under the full moon. I actually, for some reason, I started cleaning up and I'm going to. I haven't done my crystals in a long time, so I'm actually going to move it out and put them under the. Under this, very positive, hopeful wishes come true, right? Disney had a had a son in Gem, in gemini, in sagittarius. He was a very sagittarian person. Where, what do we believe? So what are you going to do on the full moon? Maybe you should go out and dance, bill yeah, I have a.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'll be doing yoga. There's a full moon yoga session I'll be doing virtually, uh, but yeah, dancing would be a perfect activity for the full moon. Chanting, being in a drum circle, doing some kind of ritual where you set your intentions, you know, you can write them down intentions.
Speaker 1:you know you can write them down. Oh, that's interesting. I never thought about doing it on a full moon. I usually do my intentions in the new moon. But that is interesting because I keep on thinking about why how do we know what we want if we don't don't know what we want? And so I'll say to you I love the full moon because it could show you what you don't want and then you could set your intentions for what you do want, like once you see what it is you don't want. And that's actually really interesting because it's squaring the. Oh, look at that. You know it's squaring the nodes. So the moon is actually really like this, the aspect, so the moon is squaring the nodes. I'm a very big nodal person. I believe the nodes are really important.
Speaker 2:so if it's the, no, how do you believe?
Speaker 1:in god? I mean, how do you believe in spirit? How do you believe? How do you believe and get rid of the matter like it's like if you didn't believe in the matter, so much matter, like in the earth? The earth like the idea that your problems are your problems or your situations are your situations, and you left it up to this higher power. What would you set for your intentions?
Speaker 2:as the squaring the moon as well. Right, so it's a grand cross, isn't that right?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah. So what's your mind telling? I go back to the sons, like our identity, our thoughts, right, so what are our thoughts telling us that maybe aren't so positive? And then what emotions are coming up. And if I ask the emotions but I didn't actually believe them, like I didn't believe them, I questioned them, like we talked about earlier, then what would I do, like what would I write down that I want? Right it's very exciting there.
Speaker 1:We're really living in very exciting times yep, big, big planetary changes yeah, and wednesday's mercury's day, so again, right, and I do know mercury's out of bounds and so it's like what? Listen to the emotions. I really think I okay, if the if sagittarius is the jupiter's the ruler of Sagittarius, I don't think there's any accidents that now we're at this very perfect point of zero, zero in cancer, and it's like cancer's love, it's home, it's our bodies, it's how we feel, it's it's asking us to feel good, to feel hopeful, to to let go of what we believe. I really, if I didn't believe this about myself, what would I go do? Where am I underestimating my own self?
Speaker 2:and how can you nurture yourself and nurture others?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and that you know the lifeguard scenario of okay, make sure your life vest is on, because if you don't put your life vest on and you go out to go save somebody else, you will both drown and you are not helping anybody. So Go back to you. But we'll say to you phil, how are you at nurturing yourself, are you? Do you take good care of yourself?
Speaker 2:yes, I believe I do, but I need to. I need to do a little bit more in that department. I think I've been getting a little bit more in that department. I think I've been getting a little bit too comfortable as a retiree. So I need to get out and do more hiking, do more swimming, just pay attention more to that, which I really do think is a nurturing thing to do, but it requires some energy. It requires it.
Speaker 1:It's so interesting, I think, because all the planets were shifting, that we haven't had the energy that we needed. So I think it's good that you were maybe taking some time to rest.
Speaker 2:Yes and adjust.
Speaker 1:There's something about that's an adventure in itself just not having to go do things. Yeah, that's probably one of the hardest things. It's probably easier to be going out. Do you ever know that, like if you actually don't listen to your body, the universe has a way of tripping you up? So I'm glad you rested, phil.
Speaker 2:Yeah, time to get back into a routine which I've always enjoyed, yeah but you're putting in a good routine.
Speaker 1:I think you're being hard on yourself. Anyway, I had to go onto the big screen to say to you I think you're exactly where you're supposed to be and I think that's true for everybody right now is to to not be so hard on themselves that maybe that they're exactly where they're supposed to be. Can you see a screen? Yes, oh, you could see the. What do you see?
Speaker 2:It's July, June 12th.
Speaker 1:How come I don't see it? Hmm, I got so excited, oh, I got so excited. Oh, let's see, I don't see it. How do I not see it?
Speaker 2:Oh, you stopped sharing, so I don't see it now.
Speaker 1:Okay, do you see it now?
Speaker 2:I'll give it a second. There we go.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay. So Thursday it's Thursday, first thing in the morning. It's Jupiter's day. We got through the full moon and the moon is in Capricorn, so now we get to do all our hard work. We had our dreams and our gifts that came to us, and now we're ready to do the hard work and our gifts that came to us, and now we're ready to do the hard work. Look at that thursday morning isn't that kind of okay. How about if it's all working very divinely and now the moon is across from jupiter, asking us to do the hard work of our dreams and our wishes and our hopes, and that's so interesting.
Speaker 2:Yep Capricorn that's.
Speaker 1:What mountain are you going to climb? That's what I love for Capricorn. What mountain are you going to climb? How do you see Saturn energy?
Speaker 2:Because I'll say you're a good worker. I think Saturn creates limitations, but limitations as structure, you know. So structure is something that you can work from, whereas if you didn't have structure, how do you even begin without a structure? So that could be a great ally to you if you have the structure and by structure I mean doing something every day at nine o'clock that is such an important structure to choose, to incorporate into your life, to intentionally do it, as opposed to feeling obligated to do it, which is also Capricorn, but to use the powerful archetype of Capricorn to create that structure for yourself and rather than seeing it as an obligation, seeing it as a tool that you are using to reach the destination that you've set for yourself.
Speaker 1:I love that. Yeah, like you want to. I think what you just said is so brilliant because you could see that it's squaring. And so here, this is the destination I want to get to, or I want to aim at. And what am I going to? What structures am I going to set up or what disciplines am I going to set up? How? What a great message. And to not see it as a bad thing, to see it as an opportunity, right, it's like I really want something. Am I really willing to do the work for it?
Speaker 2:Do you? Do you ever do this? I do it all the time, courtney. No-transcript. But if I just said to myself every morning at nine o'clock, without question, that's the end of the conversation. I'm not ruminating about it anymore, I'm not sharing it with anybody asking for opinions. I'm just setting my intention and I'm going to do it, and I know when I finally get to that point where I'm actually doing it, I feel like this huge burden has been lifted, whereas before I did it, I I was feeling that, oh, I'm stepping into this huge burden, but that's not it at all.
Speaker 2:It's the opposite, because I feel so relieved that I've finally taken action and the wheels are turning and I'm in my groove and I found my rhythm and boy oh boy, this is what I wanted to do. You know, it took me a while to get here, but now I'm fully in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have that a lot, and I think it's so interesting how you just said you just talk and talk and talk. Better off just keeping it like in a container, almost, because you're giving it away, in a way, the energy, and so it's. It's I think that's a perfect word for it right now is is that Jupiter, opposite the moon today, is boundaries. Like if you say you're going to do something and then at nine o'clock and you commit to yourself, right, like then you look at Saturn, right, I'm committing to myself, here I am, I'm going to commit to myself, now I better have my boundaries up. So now if the phone rings, I'm not going to pick up that phone because I love myself enough. That is actually what nurturing ourselves is. I love myself enough to say I'm going to do something, mean what I say and say what I mean and mean what I do. And yeah, it's yes, I know exactly what you're saying and I'm blushing when I say I very much. Have been there many, many, many, many, many times.
Speaker 2:So I'm, I'm guilty of that, doing it like this huge relief and satisfaction, and I feel so great about myself that you know I'm finally. You know the wheels are turning and I'm moving forward and it's not at all this big deal that I was sharing with people. You know, what do you think about this? What about that? You know, yeah, it's funny, I do it all the time, but I I always. It's so liberating to actually be in it and doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it makes me go back to thinking of how happiness like when we're doing what we say we want to do there's joy and it might feel scary, right To go and do it, but once we're doing it there is. There's this peace, it's joy, it's happiness, there's fulfillment, it's very. It's brave, I'll say, to make sure that you set your container up and follow through. That's a good word. Follow through, that's a very good Capricornian word. So I think that was great advice, bill. So I'm so thankful. So Friday is Venus's day. Oh, venus, the planet of love, of creativity. Where is Venus? Do you see it?
Speaker 2:Let's see when is she there. She is Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:She's in Taurus, right there, that's right. She's in Taurus, right there, that's right. This is actually interesting. Do you know about this? I love Vesta. Do you know? Vesta A?
Speaker 2:little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, vesta is interesting. I mean I like Vesta in a way because it's and look, it's trining the sun. Is it trining the sun? No, squaring, it's squaring the sun. No, squaring, squaring the sun. This is like the fire, like the fire in us. There's like this flame within all of us, and so I just think that's so interesting is I'm going to ground my idea, I'm going to ground my art and then I'm going to like go deep and have a fire within me. I think it's so perfect for you right now If that's what you're doing now is setting up your time or to commit to yourself.
Speaker 1:It's a good time to commit to something, ground something actually in reality. Like, in some ways, what you explained was so interesting because it's Aries. Aries is like the idea comes, I talk about it, it's exciting. But now how do the idea comes? I talk about it, it's exciting, but now how do I move into tours and ground the project and and use the fire in me? I mean there's this deep fire, us, in us all. We're just this, god. We're so bright and so light. We have so much potential and so light. We have so much potential and it's sextiling. Look at that. It's sextiling mercury.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:So that container is really, really, really, really good. What a beautiful. I'm so grateful that you're going to climb a mountain, phil. Okay, I'm so grateful that you are going to climb a mountain, phil, Just make sure it's the right mountain, which I think you were doing, I think we're doing. Do you see anything for Friday that you want to share?
Speaker 2:Let's see so the moon is opposite mercury which moon? And capricorn?
Speaker 1:mercury and cancer yeah, well, capricorn could feel. So you know, you know how someone feels, as if somebody is blocking them or stopping them from something and people power over us. And so if we feel like people are having power over us, just to notice that it's an emotion and that nobody can really have power over us I mean, except for if you're a kid and I'll say, if you're a kid, parents. But we could really put our boundaries up to make sure that if we don't like how someone's showing up to us and we're getting angry, I mean I just think about like, get angry, I mean you don't have to get angry and we blow up and we explode, but when we notice what we don't want, we can change things.
Speaker 1:So to not let people have power over you is what I would say about the. When we have the moon opposite of Mercury in cancer. Just notice, the power plays with people. I always say ask the why, like, why are they saying this to me? Like's their intention? Do they? Is it because they want something? Does that make sense, phil?
Speaker 2:yeah, that yes, and many times they're unconscious of what they're doing.
Speaker 1:So yeah, stand up for yourself you know, yeah, I think we're really meant you could go back to sat in is in Aries and Neptune. It's um, we're meant to stand up for ourselves because no one else is going to stand up for us. If I love myself enough. I think it's so interesting that you're talking about boundaries, but boundaries are really important. They're not not loving it's. There's something about that. That's important to remember is that we can have boundaries and we could really also very much love, and I actually think we could love more when we do have boundaries and they can.
Speaker 2:They can assist, even though they might seem the opposite. Even though they might seem the opposite, they can be a huge assist and support because they're creating structure and a foundation but it requires hard work.
Speaker 1:When you're a child, I think that children need rules. I think there's a gift in rules like there's okay. When you're a child, I think that children need rules. I think there's a gift in rules because then, when there's rules, they feel safer and so like rules, but when you have rules, you feel safe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and your world is easier to understand with rules, especially in a child's mind.
Speaker 1:But even in our mind, like, say, for instance, you say I'm going to sit down at nine o'clock in the morning and then I'm going to commit to that. That's my rule. Let's call it a rule. There is something about you said it, you said it perfectly. I don't have to think about it anymore, I don't have to question it, I'm just going to get my, I'm going to get my tushy right on that chair. It's like meditation. I don't do anything before I meditate. I, it's, it's I once I knew it and I set the structure up. It's really what I do and I don't even question anymore. I don't want to not do it, do it I. I could do it horribly, I, as long as I sit in my chair and I commit to that and I sit there and I don't have to do it anyway. But I think rules are. I think they're helpful.
Speaker 1:Let's move on to Saturday. But rules I mean, don't be scared of the rules, and we're going to go into Aquarius. So now, saturday morning. Wow, I always think of freedom. Let freedom ring. So Saturday is Saturn's day. Oh, my God. I think it's so fun that we have this conversation right now, because you think about that and you think about. I love astrology because it goes into energies, and so you have this rules are good, because then you feel like you have freedom. So, but where are the some rules? If they're not, if they don't make sense, I'll say to you question them. But some rules are really good. There's a freedom in it.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, liberation for sure, because you don't have to, you don't have to question like, just like you said, you don't have to question them or overthink them, they're simply rules.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's interesting because Saturn squaring like how do you see that? So Saturn is squaring on Saturday where it's pretty much an exact square to Jupiter. So Saturn the control and it is next to Neptune. But I think we should stick just to Saturn and stay in the sense of Saturn squaring, that cancer Jupiter again, I think that Saturn can give an assist here, you know. Saturn.
Speaker 2:Aries lots of initiating energy there and lots of initiating energy there and Jupiter in Cancer, I think, will allow anything that's emotionally tied to that action just to run very smoothly. You're going to find support in the, the emotion and the action of something. They're going to work together wait and look at that.
Speaker 1:That's actually interesting, right? So what you just said, right, the motion, the emotion and the action. And then look, the moon is sextiling saturn. So now you also have air, so, and we also have earth. Look at this. I mean, we have, like, we have this, like this very elemental. Imagine that. Imagine if you had all the support and you had air behind. I love, I love what you said in the beginning of the week of imagining that you have air behind you and what would it feel like? I always think of Nike, just do it, Like you know Air Jordans. And he just said just do it. So it's Make the leap yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, be brave, be brave, be brave, be brave, and I love well in the moon Pluto is. I think we're free, I think freedom comes within our own mind and how important it is for us to know we're actually free free to be who we are, free to be whoever we are, and not I go back to needing so much acceptance from everybody, because maybe maybe the only person that has to accept ourselves is ourselves, and if we're looking for our acceptance outside of ourselves, we might be waiting a very long time. And then we have Sunday till we meet again. But till we meet again. But sunday is the sun's day, so the sun is at 24 gemini and squaring mars. No Sex tiling Mars.
Speaker 2:Yep, squaring no, not squaring the nodes.
Speaker 1:Still. Yeah, it's interesting to think that my breath gets. You know, it's so funny because I sometimes get like messages through how I feel and my throat got really, really, really, really, really tight and so it's our words, right, our words, our thinking. And you go back to those notes and how our mind could really mess with us and just to be careful, what we think, what we think, what we believe. Just how about if every how about I keep on thinking for this week, if everything I believed wasn't what it is, how would I, if it, just if I had no history and no past past and I didn't have all that stuff, that baggage, and I just was here right now, present anything and everything's possible freedom. I, I, I, um. I like it better this, but there's a coldness to that moon, right, it's like the opposite is our people being kind of distant with me or being cold on that weekend, and it's really not personal. Everyone's just going through so much right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if they're, if they're too much in their minds, then they're not. They're just not open or they're not receptive and that's that's not a fun place to be, to be in a spin cycle in your mind.
Speaker 1:Believe me, I know I will say to you do everything you can to get out of your mind Anything Like. Pick up a book. Do you know? The best way I mean, I actually think the best way to get out of your mind is to open a book and actually read it and then say, am I actually reading these words? And then, if I have to, like not, you know how we go back to the beginning of what we said is like in some ways we could lose ourselves and we could go into la la land. Don't even read a kid's book. Read anything that gets you in the present moment out of your head, because when you're reading, if you're not understanding what you're saying, you're probably in your head. So then go back and read it Like it's a form of meditation and you could be reading for me.
Speaker 2:I could be reading and still be stuck in my head. I'm reading, but not a word is getting through. But eventually I stopped myself and I start again and I focus my attention on the words and I'm actually paying attention. Sometimes it only I only have to do that once. Sometimes I have to keep going back to the beginning and each time. I do, I get stronger at focusing and that chatter in my mind actually diminishes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, really it does, and it feels, much better, much much, much better much better, so that I guess I guess I can look at the end of the week and then wish that for everyone in the beginning of the week is just this idea that we're free, that the only one, in a way the only chains we have are the chains we believe, and how much if we don't believe, are the chains we believe and how much if we don't believe that we're blocked or chained. I don't know. I feel like the wind is beneath my wings and we could fly, and that is really what the nodes are telling us that we could fly. I mean, we really can't fly, but we can, we can, we can, we can fly, we could be, we could be our highest selves and we could be our brightest selves and we could help each other light the way. So thank you for helping me light the way, bill.
Speaker 2:That's an excellent description of the full moon in Sagittarius. So thank you, courtney, it's such a pleasure.
Speaker 1:It's just such a pleasure to know you and to spend time with you and I'm so grateful for anyone that listens and I hope that they I hope that they allow themselves to to fly, so I think it's a good time to fly.
Speaker 2:Definitely fly. Thanks, courtney, we'll see you next week. Bye.