Romy Reiner: Astrology, Grief, And The Courage To Keep Going

Grief has a way of bending time. A holiday can feel both gentle and impossibly heavy, especially when a birthday arrives without the calls you once depended on. We sit with that tension and read the symbols for resilience in Romy Reiner’s chart, using astrology not as prediction but as a toolkit for courage, structure, and meaning. What emerges is a grounded path forward: daily practices that stabilize the body, honest boundaries that protect the heart, and a faith that’s earned in the dark, not borrowed from the light.

We unpack how a Capricorn sun can be both a burden and a backbone—the mountain to climb and the strength to climb it. With Pluto close to the moon and Mercury, language becomes a lantern for shadow work, pointing to the possibility of writing, speaking, or teaching from experience. This is Sagittarius at full power: turning chaos into coherence and sharing wisdom that others can use. We explore the North Node in Virgo as a call to routine, service, and small, repeatable acts that restore agency when everything else feels beyond control.

Along the way, we talk about addiction, boundaries, and the quiet heroism of choosing actions that heal. We reference Viktor Frankl’s insight about the last human freedom—choosing our attitude—and connect it to the present Capricorn transits emphasizing time, discipline, and higher aims. The heart of the conversation is simple and hard: move a little, every day, toward the life that can hold your story without breaking you. If this resonates, share it with someone who needs a steady hand, subscribe for more grounded conversations, and leave a review to help others find the show.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:27

Hi Phil, how are you?

SPEAKER_01 0:29

I'm great. How are you doing this as we're right in the middle of the holidays?

SPEAKER_03 0:36

So nice to be talking to you. I'm having a very nice holiday. It's very peaceful, I'll say. That's been a very peaceful holiday and trying to appreciate the small little things in life and just being exactly where I am. How about you? How are you doing with the holidays?

SPEAKER_01 0:56

I feel exactly the same way. I feel like it seems to me like everybody is pausing and taking a breath. And that's the way it feels to me. Um, and it's a good feeling.

Introducing Romy Reiner’s Chart

SPEAKER_03 1:14

Yeah, it feels a little lighter. Remember, like I think it's so interesting because two weeks ago I was like, oh my God. I don't know, something feels a little, it feels a little lighter. Which is hard because a lot of people are going also through a lot of things. And we're we're we're we decided we're gonna we actually decided just a minute ago we're gonna discuss um Romy Reiner's chart, which we've done the brother and her father, and not her mother, which is interesting. I I haven't looked at her chart, but we're gonna look at her chart, and I'll say, which it's probably not a very easy holiday for her.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Definitely not, and she's still 27, so she's a young person with lots of life ahead of her.

SPEAKER_03 2:05

So maybe and I think I think you're right, she's 27, but she just turned, let's look at her chart because we pulled it up. She just turned 28.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

So I'll say um not a very good birthday for her, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_03 2:22

Yeah, birthdays are so I I think birthdays, I have a hard time, I don't know about you, but I have a hard time with my birthday because it's like this idea that's supposed to be this great day, and and something special is supposed to happen. And then you're like, it's like every other day. Um, it's the only I'm actually like never really moody, but I'm I and I'm not so moody on my birthday anymore. But I can imagine that it would be a hard birthday for her. This idea that you should, I I make quotes because I don't like should be with your parents and the people that love you the most. But may she have felt their energy and their heart, their love from the ethers.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Yeah, can you imagine not being contacted by just one parent when you expect that call on your birthday, but then to not hear from both parents?

Birthdays, Loss, And Expectations

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Yeah, and and if you think about it, I think she was very close to them. She saw them daily. So even just I remember my mom saying, like nine years later, after her mom died, saying, I still like hear the phone ring and think it's gonna be my mother. And there's a sadness that it's not. And this is like this is still a very young girl. I always think this is fascinating. She's still she's you know, she hasn't gone through her first Saturn return yet, which she will go through. I just noticed. So it's right, but she's a very strong girl. I think that there's something I think that me, she knows. I'll say if I were her, I'll say she's so much stronger than she knows right now.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Right. Yeah, and again, and if I were her, I would become friends with her chart because the chart shows that she does have fortitude and courage and a real intrinsic ability to climb the mountain, as you mentioned earlier, you know, to face those obstacles and keep moving.

SPEAKER_03 4:40

So even though it's seeing it on the screen whole, right? You're seeing the whole picture.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

I'm not seeing the whole picture, no.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

I I had a weird feeling you're not, so I'm gonna stop share. Wait, isn't that funny? I knew you weren't. Okay, let's see. Are you seeing the whole picture now?

SPEAKER_00 4:57

No, not yet. Here we go.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

Can you see it?

SPEAKER_00 5:07

Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_03 5:13

She has the fortitude, I'll say to you, right? Is that what you were saying?

SPEAKER_01 5:17

Yes. You know, she has that Capricorn sun in her first house. So even though even though she might have a tough go of it climbing up that mountain, she's also been given what she needs to overcome every obstacle to keep climbing that mountain.

Strength In The Chart: Capricorn Themes

SPEAKER_03 5:54

Yeah, I think it's so funny. I think we're not necessarily our son. I think we become our son. So what you just said is she has everything she needs to climb that mountain. And may she know that, right? She has everything. The chart is her friend, actually, because if you see what's really interesting about this is her so interesting about their nodal stories, her father, her brother, right? The connection to that. But here you go back and you see that the their nodal stories were squaring her nodes, right? Her his her past life, which is fascinating. But here's the here's the trick for her. And we don't know what house system because we don't know her birthday or her time, her time, but I'll say, how do you have faith, even when the worst imaginable thing can happen to you? And that is what faith is. Faith is not when everything's great and going well and believing in something bigger than ourselves. Faith is when you lose every single thing in your life and you find a way to believe. And if she learns to do that, it will be the greatest gift of her life. I mean, yes, it's literally her purpose right now is to do to have that ability to find her faith. And faith is not in a church, faith is not in a temple, faith is something about doing like finding the daily, go back to the North Note in Virgo, finding the daily practice of finding her own spirit and her own soul. And God. I mean, God in a way, God, I mean, literally God. The word God is just Sagittarius.

Faith When The Unthinkable Happens

SPEAKER_01 7:39

Maybe I'm sh because Pluto and Mercury are so close to the moon, maybe and I don't want to sound I don't want to sound glib about this at all. Because I it's she's uh going through so much pain and it it's just so hard for anybody to process, so it's hard for me to imagine how she's dealing with it. But because Pluto and Mercury are with her moon, maybe you know, she's going she's taking she's life has taken her quickly into a dark area. Really dark and really deep. Completely unexpected, nothing like she could ever imagine in her lifetime. But because the Mercury is there, maybe she can have a legacy of telling us what that journey was about. So that even though it's an unimaginably horrible thing that happened, maybe there's that light inside of her that that would transform that terrible experience into something that she can share so that others can benefit somehow from what she has gone through. Oh, how that would certainly be an amazing the higher way to do this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

Well, it's so interesting because what you said is so profound, because I'll say the guru, right? The speaker, the guru, the wise one, right? But it's training. So yeah, like that would actually be. If I were her, I would take your advice, and I'll say that would be such a great message for her because she's being meant to be brave. And if it's right, the Saturn's right with her heiress, and I think what heiress is is doing the best she can. So being brave and doing the best things she can. And we will say that so many people and so many families are dealing with addiction and with, I guess, the ability to say no to people and boundaries, and how much she can talk about that. And also, it's interesting, right? Mars, that Jupiter, right? That Jupiter, Mars is sextiling that whole area, and so the unimaginable experience, everything that we couldn't imagine, and being able to to be okay, and then be a guru for other people to be okay too, to go through the darkness and into the light, and then be a light, a lighthouse for other people. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. And she can be, and she can be.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

Yes, it's here. It's so even though she's in a really, really dark place where she can't even find the edges, but that's what she's feeling right now.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

Well, we know, yeah. Well, well, we think that well, we we can imagine she's feeling that, but we'll say. How about if she wasn't? How about if she could wake up every day and just do something that's grounded? Right. Because go back to the south node and to not to do it goes back to what do something daily and get grounded because we could totally lose ourselves in the we could lose ourselves. I mean, anyone could lose themselves in the unimaginable, but it really wouldn't be helpful to her.

Pluto, The Moon, And Speaking From Pain

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Right. So even though it might seem extraordinarily difficult, that the everything in the chart, and that there are lots of planets supporting each other here and talking to each other. So she has she has the support. So it's it it might not be easy for her to see this now, but it's there. That's very real.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Yeah, it's um I I think what's interesting about she's so loved. I think so many people care about her, and sometimes we lose the people that we think are what that are our family, like our family, and the most tragic thing. But I'm sure that there are other people that love her and that will take.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 12:55

May she find people that love her, even in the unimaginable. I mean, we think about Chiron and Scorpio and being willing to look at the darkness and being able to transform and change and to grow from this and to find a way to feel safe, right? It's uh she has a big round. Listen, a Capricorn sun is your job is to climb a mountain, to do the effort and the hard work. It's um I know, I don't know. I'm a very big advocate to not see anyone like I want to feel sorry for her, but I know it wouldn't help her, right? So, how do I see her as whole and capable and possible? And I'll say she is very capable and she is very possible, and I will say she would be a great teacher. I think your idea is so great because I think when people go and they speak and they become speakers what when the unimaginable happens, it helps so many other people not repeat stories and repeat things. And she was just such a public, she wasn't a public presence, but her father was and her mother was, and this story is. And could she use this story for good?

Boundaries, Addiction, And Daily Practice

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Right. And then she has that potential to become a public figure too, which would would not be her intention at all, but that could be a result of what she would if she was choose to think about a path like that. Writing a book, public speaking, uh just being a media person, being on talk shows. I really do see her using this energy to and you know, Sagittarius philosoph philosophy, you know, to to create something that's coherent for her, uh which she can share.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

So interesting. If you think about if you think about this, so I I think a lot about inconjunct, right? And that Aries, I love Virgo energy, and right, that Aries energy, right, of being brave, of being courageous, that's her hard work in this lifetime is to learn to be brave and courageous. And it's making this, it's it's unseen to that Virgo set north node, right? Of I'm gonna get to be somebody that is really a teacher, I'm gonna be get to be somebody that's very grounded, I'm gonna be somebody that is um that makes the world a better place, right? I'm gonna make the world a better pay place. And then you just think about it's in an in conjunct, so it's not seen, right? With that air Saturn energy, but what does it look like if she was so brave and we got to witness it as a group? Like, does it allow us to become more brave? I mean, thank God she's gonna choose to be well because it would be the greatest gift for her parents. I'll say do it for her parents because they that's what they want for her. They want her to be well, they don't want her to suffer, right? Right? That's the greatest gift that she could give to her parents. And I know as my own, as I'm a mother, is for her to be whole and well and be okay. Yes, in the unimaginable, and if she can be the we're going through Saturn and Neptune are going to be going into Aries, and every one of us are gonna have to learn to be the hero of our own story. What a what a symbol of a hero she would be, or she can she can be, and she doesn't maybe know it, but or maybe she does, but I'll say her soul does. Her soul knows she could be a hero.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

I'm gonna put the the transit chart because what's interesting. I think a lot of things are right now in um a lot of things are in.

From Darkness To Lighthouse: Public Voice

SPEAKER_01 17:19

And Saturn's a very prominent planet here. It's got trines and sextiles and the ink conjunct that you just mentioned, so I think it will become even more prominent when we hit that conjunction that you mentioned.

SPEAKER_03 17:39

Let's see. Oh, that worked, didn't work. I'm trying to see. This is so funny. I've been having this I'm so good at this, and then right now I'm like, I didn't know I wanted to do it.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

I can see I can see the full chart of Romy Reiner here.

SPEAKER_03 18:15

Okay, so I well, you know, when I was doing the bywheel, I'm gonna move to a bywheel, and I'm gonna take Romy's Nadle, and then I'm gonna do the transits, and then I might have to stop share and then share it again, because that's how I seem to have to do it. See if I can okay, I'm sharing the chart for the bywheel. Remember, we don't know her time of birth. So are you seeing a full screen of a bywheel?

unknown 18:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Oh, oh, I I'll say the universe does not, I only have the sun on my bywheel. Well, I I know the chart. I actually know this chart. I I think we're going through so many. We'll stick to her chart, but I do know that a lot of things are going into Capricorn right now, right? And it's just about I always do higher or lower. So I'll say to you the lower side of Capricorn is depression and sadness and hurt. And I'm not saying we can't be sad, but I'll save you effort, like time. What we do with our time really, really, really matters. And so how nice it would be how she spends her. I mean, very Saturnian word, but what we do with our time really matters. I don't know, life sucks sometimes, right? And how do you be okay even when life sucks?

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Exactly. She has to carry it, she has to carry that with her.

SPEAKER_03 20:01

And her parents are there. Oh, so yeah. So right now, I I I'm not pulling up the chart, but it's a very Capricornian time. You have Venus and you have the sun and you have Mars all going through Capricorn. And so, what are my this is for everybody right now? What am I doing with my time? It's so important. And I love David Foster Wallace, and he talks about like what you idolize and What we're do with our time is what we idolize, what we worship. And so it's you cannot control what happened back then. I mean, this sounds like I'm not being sweet, but I'll say to you, I am being sweet. And if it was my kid, I would say if I were her, we could grieve and we could be sad and we'll go to therapy and we'll talk, but do the daily hard work of doing things that are really good for you because it really matters, or else you will get lost, and we don't want her to be lost.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 20:57

Are you seeing the full screen?

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Yes.

Bravery, North Node In Virgo, And Meaning

SPEAKER_03 21:01

Yeah. So I will say let's talk about the higher side of Sagittarius. It is the guru, it is the person that's the um the wise one. It's it's going through the Scorpio energy of the darkness. You go through the darkness, and as you get out, you become the light. So at the end of every tunnel, there is light. Can you be with people that could remind you of the light? That's what I would say. I would have her be around people that could remind her of the light she is and to do things she loves to do.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Yes. And when a situation like this happens in life, it's it's so hard to find meaning. But I think meaning is also a signature of Sagittarian. Because a Sagittarian can take all these things and create meaning from it and and at a very high level and look at it and create wisdom from what other people might not see as uh experiences that wouldn't result in wisdom.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

I have the chills. I I do. It's um do you know Victor Frankel's quote?

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Which quote?

SPEAKER_03 22:27

Okay, so it's Victor Frankel, and it was this man's search for meaning. And it's a it's a great book, but the quote is we who I like love this quote, and it just showed up right here. We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walk through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in numbers, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing, the last of the human freedoms, to choose one's attitude in any given circumstances, to choose one's way. And I will say it goes, you think of the nodal story, right? There is a part of her that is very spiritual in a past life, but also could be could go unconscious. And the her whole purpose is to become a teacher, to become someone that's grounded and earthy and making the world a better place. And the way to get there is by having finding meaning in all of this, even in the in the unthinkable, Pluto, the unimaginable, the unthinkable, she can be okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

I hope somehow she gets to hear what you just said, Courtney. Because that will be okay, because we're gonna it'll it'll get to her, and you know, I I'm I'm adding all my love and support to what you just said because it that's perfect.

Viktor Frankl, Choice, And Purpose

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Yeah, well, I thank you so much, and I I appreciate I appreciate her so much for being teach being a great teacher for us all and going on her hero's journey, and maybe we get to watch it, even though we never knew her, maybe we're meant to know her.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Yes. And that would be the unintended consequence of her life experience, right? Not not something that anyone would ever consider happening, but as a result of things that occurred. Like we just said, she can she can turn it, she can transform it into something that can result in something good for others.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

And I think we all can, right? I think we could all take our pains and our the things that hurt us the most and that we accomplished or that we healed or we got through, and then we become the teacher. I mean, even just the Chiron, her Chiron is in Scorpio, the unimaginable, the darkness. And somehow it's not that we're not wounded because we are, we always will be somehow hurt from it, but that doesn't mean we have to suffer. We can we could become the shaman, literally, she could become the shaman, and it's um and I'm proud of her because she's waking up every day, and that's all that's all she can do is wake up every day and it's a brand new day. But it is interesting, right? Because that Saturn was going back towards her south node, and just how much we're here to do our purpose. And we have everything in our I believe this is what I believe, and I know Phil believes it too, but I'll say confirm it for me. We have everything we need in our charts if we just live them from the higher place.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

I'm sending so much love to this beautiful soul.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Yes, me too.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

And I'm so grateful to watch all the great things she's gonna do with herself and have hopefully she'll have children and she'll tell stories about her parents, and and she'll create her own family. May she fall in love or be in love and find somebody that I know it's interesting about the children, but there is something very healing about having your own kids too in this whole process because sure. I would love that for her. So I don't know. Is there any last words you would say that if I were her?

Time, Capricorn Transits, And Action

SPEAKER_01 26:39

No, if I were her, I would just, you know, I would I would just emphasize everything that you said, but also say that she does have a lot of love and support behind her, more than she might realize. And that that energy is strong, and hopefully it will help her.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

I think you're right. I think the whole world is cheering for this girl. I think there is not a human alive that does not wish this girl to to rise above this.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

Right. Okay. Thank you, Courtney.

SPEAKER_03 27:25

And look forward to me with you in the new year. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

Bye.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

Bye.