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I"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2194.94,"endTime":2197.7,"body":"can hardly manage myself on"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2197.7,"endTime":2202.88,"body":"Instagram. So that's where I am"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2197.7,"endTime":2202.88,"body":"at Lee Caron, author, and you"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2202.88,"endTime":2206.36,"body":"can check out my books at my"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2202.88,"endTime":2206.36,"body":"website, which is the caron.com"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2207.32,"endTime":2212.24,"body":"so that's where I am, where I'm"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2207.32,"endTime":2212.24,"body":"at. And I promise if you DM me,"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2212.24,"endTime":2217.28,"body":"if you write Denise, I answer"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2212.24,"endTime":2217.28,"body":"every message. There's no reader"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2217.28,"endTime":2221.08,"body":"that would go ignore it. I love"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2217.28,"endTime":2221.08,"body":"hearing from people, and so I"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2221.08,"endTime":2224.02,"body":"always make a point to connect."},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2221.08,"endTime":2224.02,"body":"That's my favorite part about"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2224.02,"endTime":2226.96,"body":"being an author, is connecting"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2224.02,"endTime":2226.96,"body":"with with readers. And I think"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2226.96,"endTime":2229.78,"body":"people would say that I'm very"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2226.96,"endTime":2229.78,"body":"accessible that way. I want to"},{"speaker":"Leigh Carron","startTime":2229.78,"endTime":2230.08,"body":"be"},{"speaker":"Alesia Galati","startTime":2230.739,"endTime":2232.299,"body":"Oh, that's so"},{"speaker":"Alesia Galati","startTime":2230.739,"endTime":2232.299,"body":"good. And we'll make sure we"},{"speaker":"Alesia Galati","startTime":2232.299,"endTime":2234.519,"body":"have links for all of that in"},{"speaker":"Alesia Galati","startTime":2232.299,"endTime":2234.519,"body":"the show notes and the"},{"speaker":"Alesia Galati","startTime":2234.519,"endTime":2237.339,"body":"description for anyone doing"},{"speaker":"Alesia Galati","startTime":2234.519,"endTime":2237.339,"body":"other things, or they're like,"},{"speaker":"Alesia Galati","startTime":2237.339,"endTime":2241.299,"body":"Wait, spell that we got you."},{"speaker":"Alesia Galati","startTime":2237.339,"endTime":2241.299,"body":"It's okay. It's all right. 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