The Perfect Rise: Conversations with RBA

What It Takes to Lead the Baking Industry with Martin Barnett (B.A.C.)

The Retail Bakers of America Association Episode 30

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There’s a version of the baking industry that people want to believe in—one where hard work, consistency, and great products are enough to guarantee success. 

But the reality? It’s more complicated than that. 

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, I’m joined by Martin Barnett, Executive Director of Baking Association of Canada, who has spent nearly five decades in the industry—spanning family bakeries, hospitality, education, and now national leadership. 

What was meant to be a temporary role during a moment of uncertainty turned into something much bigger. And through that experience, Martin has had a front-row seat to what’s actually working—and what’s not—across the baking industry today. 

This conversation pulls back the curtain on:
 • The decisions that stabilized an entire organization during crisis
 • Why the industry is harder than most people are willing to admit
 • The shift from hustle to sustainability in modern bakeries
 • The real reason workforce challenges still exist
 • What mentorship and training should look like moving forward 

But more than anything, this episode challenges the way we define success. 

Because it’s not just about what you produce—it’s about how you lead, how you adapt, and how you build something that can actually last. 

If you’re serious about your place in this industry, this is a conversation you don’t skip.

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