The Napkin In Between
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The Napkin In Between
___is the JLO of___
From the quirks of Florida to the peelable joy of Twizzlers, we have a blast comparing everything to the one and only Jennifer Lopez. Ever thought about Colleen Hoover as the JLO of romance authors or debated Tyler Perry's influence on societal stereotypes? We tackle these topics with humor and insight, throwing in some spicy takes on the Jenner clan, Hilary Duff, and Blake Lively. Get ready for a rollercoaster of laughs, nostalgia, and sharp social commentary that promises a unique perspective on pop culture and beyond.
Is this thing on? Hello, hello, uh-oh, another yapper with a mic. Hello everyone. Welcome back to the Napkin Inbetween Podcast. I am your host, Daijné Jones, and girl, I debated whether or not I was going to tell y'all this, but I have to tell y'all this. So 30 seconds ago I was ready to crash the fuck out.
Daijné:So I feel like I'm still getting used to podcasting and everything like that. So I always get like really nervous before I start filming episodes. So I always take like a little shot before I start filming. Mom, if you're watching, I know you're watching because you're my biggest fan and I love you so much. For that, I'm fine, okay. Every time I tell my mom like, oh, I'm gonna go drink, I'm gonna go out with friends, she's like thinks I'm gonna get addicted or some shit. Like I'm fine, I'm not gonna get addicted, we're good, we're chilling, it's something to take the edge off.
Daijné:So I I do all my whole setup. I set up my lights, I set up my camera, whatever, and I go to set up my mic and the sound and everything. And so when I set up the sound, I wear these headphones to make sure it sounds good, because I'm supposed to wear the headphones while I'm recording, but I don't like the way they look on me. I look stupid, I look like a bug, so I don't like wearing the headphones. So I just wear the headphones from the in the very beginning, check the sound, make sure it sounds good, and then I take them off. I put on the headphones to make sure the sound is good and I can't hear anything. And I'm tweaking out because I'm like what the fuck's going on? Like I can see on the, the sound machine, it's called a focus rite, I don't think that that's like the actual name for it, but on the thing it says focus rite, so I call it the focus rite. I can see that the sound is going because it's lighting up, but I can't hear anything in the headphones. So I'm like what the fuck is going on. This thing pops up to make like an account through focus rite, and I'm like, okay, maybe that's the issue because I've never made an account, so I go to make an account. Headphones are still not working. I restart my computer like three or four times. I unplug, you know, the usb, I plug it back. Sounds like I still can't hear anything through the fucking headphones and, mind you, I'm on the verge of fucking tears Because one thing about me I'm a cry.
Daijné:Okay, I am a huge crier. If I'm happy, I'm gonna cry. If I'm sad, I'm gonna cry. If I'm frustrated, I'm gonna cry. Which, being a frustrated crier, is genuinely the most frustrating thing, because you're mad at somebody right, and you're like crying and they're like, oh my god, she's so sad like no bitch. I just remember that murder is illegal. That's why I'm crying right now.
Daijné:So I'm on the verge of fucking tears and I'm like you know what? I'm gonna text my friend, Sam. Sam is actually a fucking angel. Like, if you guys don't know who Sam is, she helped me produce my diss track. Um, her music is the intro and the outro music. Like she's an amazing artist. Y'all need to go check her out. Y'all sleeping on Sam, but I text her and I'm like, hey, Sam, like I'm so sorry to bother you, because anytime I have issues with the sound and I can't figure it out, I text Sam, but I'm like I want to figure this out myself, like I don't want to be a bother to her, but I'm like I've been trying with this for 30 minutes.
Daijné:At this point, like I I have to text Sam. So I text Sam and I'm like hey, Sam, you know I'm struggling with this sound like I don't know what the issue is. I can't hear anything in my headphones. I can see that it's working, but I can't hear anything like any, any suggestions. And she's like go into Spotify, play music and see if if it's working, like see if you have sound. So I do that and I can see again that it's like lighting up. The sound thing is lighting up, but I can't hear anything in the headphones. So I text that to her and I'm like I can see that it's working because it's lighting up, but I still can't hear anything in my headphones.
Daijné:The way that I worded it, I was like I don't know if that makes sense, because half the time when I'm talking about the sound of everything, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. This is only my third day out here like I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. So I send her a video and I'm like you know, this is what I mean. Like you can see it's lighting up and the sound, but I still can't hear anything in my headphones and she's oh, she texts me back and she's like your headphones are plugged into the wrong port, right right so I unplu the headphones, I plugged them into where they're supposed to be plugged in and all of a sudden we have fucking sound I can hear through the headphones. So I'm like, okay, sounds working now.
Daijné:Like I literally had tears in my fucking eyes and I'm just like I cannot cry right now. My makeup looks so fucking good Like I cannot ruin this makeup. I outdid myself with the makeup today. So I'm like girl, like get it together. But I'm on the verge of fucking tears and I'm like let me just text Sam and, of course, as always, Sam saves the day. So the only reason I'm able to film this podcast episode right now is because Sam saved the day. So everyone say thank you, Sam in the comments, because that's why y'all are getting this podcast episode today, because I literally was about to crash the fuck out, throw all the shit in the fucking garbage and never record a podcast episode again.
Daijné:But now that we're here and the sound is working, what we gonna talk about today. So I posted a video the other day and I said that Ice Spice is the JLO of rap and it started a little Conversation of people being like they think this person is the JLO of this part of the industry or this thing, whatever. So I posted a video and I told you guys to comment who you feel like is the JLO of certain things, so that we can talk about them. Now, before we get into it, I feel like we need to define what it means to be the JLO of something. So the first one in order to be the JLO of something, you've done something problematic to gain your platform. So for JLO, we'll use her as the example.
Daijné:She stole the vocals from artists, did not give them credit, allegedly, and used them on her songs, and that's how she's gained this platform. The second definition is you have talent somewhere. Right, you have a little talent, but instead of focusing on that specific talent, you try to be like this triple threat. So, for example, for JLO, I feel like she's not the worst actress, right, like I feel like if she would have honed in on that, she could have really built a career just being an actress, but unfortunately, she got a little too much dip on her chip and she wanted to be this like triple threat. So she wanted to act, she wanted to sing, she wanted to dance, she wanted to do it all, but the vocals are just not there. Hence the reason she stole the vocals from other people, right? So instead of focusing on you know just that one thing acting, and honestly, she could have just focused on dancing as well. I don't think that she's a bad dancer either, but again, she wanted to be this like triple threat and got too much dip on her chip and wanted to do it all. Some people can't do it all, and that's fine. Not everyone has to be a triple threat. If everyone is a triple threat, then there are no triple threats. You know what I mean mean. So, just focus on the thing that could really get you to where you want to be. But she didn't do that anyway.
Daijné:Those are the two definitions that we are working with when we say that someone is the JLO of something. So let's look at the comments and see who some of y'all have said is the JLO of specific things. We have a comment from Tanya Mingo. She says meta is the JLO of social media platforms. Well, yes, abso-fucking-lutely, , I feel like this is the most accurate. Like y'all really understood the assignment when I said tell me who is the JLO of things. Meta is absolutely the JLO of social media platforms.
Daijné:Meta wants to be that girl so fucking bad. And let me hold your hand with a napkin in between when I say this you are not that girl, you have never been that girl and you will never be that girl. This is the exact reason why they're trying to ban TikTok right now because they want the spotlight so fucking bad. They want the spotlight so fucking bad. Meta, which is like Instagram, facebook threads, whatsapp, things like that. They wanna compete with TikTok and they just can't. And it's like you can't compete where you don't compare, and meta will never compare to tiktok. The algorithm of tiktok, the way that they have set up their platform, like it is just unprecedented and since they can't copy it, they want that shit gone.
Daijné:A fucking SAP little Mark Zuckafuck or whatever his name is. He wants to be that girl so bad. And it's like please take your jerry curl and leave us the fuck alone. Let us, let us live like. We just wanted to make our silly little videos. And because we're not making our videos on your app, you have a problem. It just never gave that. It was gonna be you. And it's like, even if they are successful and getting tiktok banned.
Daijné:Most of the content on like Instagram reels and shit is just recycled TikToks. Like I hate for a bitch to send me a reel and it's something that was funny and we were kiki-ing about on TikTok two months prior. Like girl, please, this isn't funny, no more. We already laughed about this. We've already said all our jokes about it. We've moved on. Now we're like four or five jokes in the future. Like let me know when you get there, but actually don't let me know when you get there because, bitch, it's old news at this point. And also like the people on instagram reels are fucking insane. Like the comments on instagram reels the comments on tiktok like, depending on what you do and say, sometimes the comments will eat you the fuck up, right, but people on TikTok have a little decorum. Like if they most of the time, if they don't agree with something on TikTok and it's just like I don't agree with it people will just keep scrolling On Instagram Reels. They have no fucking decorum. They are not fucking demure. It is like a toxic wasteland on Twitter and Instagram. It's just crazy over there and they're working so hard to get my good sis banned and it's just like girl, you still not gonna be that girl, even if you do get my girl kicked out of the club like you're still not getting in the club. Let's be for real. So I feel like meta is absolutely the jail of social media platforms because she wants to be that triple threat girl. So bad and You're just not. Let's see another one.
Daijné:Cody J says Florida is a JLO of states, although Oklahoma is close. So I don't know much about Oklahoma, so I don't I can't, make an opinion on whether or not it is a close second. Funny story, though throwback Third grade Daijné was obsessed with Oklahoma. Do not ask me why, because I've never been. I just feel like Oklahoma. I had this dream when I was in third grade I wanted to move there. I wanted to get a farm and just live in Oklahoma. I wanted to live specifically in Oklahoma City because it was the capital growing up. Now obviously I do not want to step foot in fucking Oklahoma, but I don't know much about it, so I don't know if it's a close second. But I definitely agree that florida is the JLO of states Because it kind of exploits the fact that it has beaches to be like, oh, like we're this great state like, come visit Florida, we have the beach, whatever.
Daijné:Whatever, Florida is not a real fucking place. It is spooky, scary in fucking Florida. If you have ever set foot in Florida, like it is some weird fucking people in Florida. Actually, if you Google, you can Google man arrested and your birthday and it'll show some crazy shit about someone in Florida. Actually, let's do it right now. Oh, the very first one Florida man pleads guilty to attempting to meet minor for sexual activity. Florida man arrested for breaking into a house taking nap and making coffee. Like okay, goldilocks, what the fuck Like, get out them people house. Florida man hurls oreos package at wife, chokes her after arguing over empty coffee maker. Like what be going on in Florida? So yeah, I absolutely agree that Florida is the JLO of states. I feel like people are inclined to go there because of the beaches but, like, if you take the beaches out of Florida, she's really not that girl just bored1237, three, seven says Colleen Hoover is definitely the JLo of romance authors.
Daijné:ate, you fucking ate. And here's the thing I am a victim of Colleen fucking Hoover. I've read it ends with us and it starts with us or it begins with us. I can't remember the title ugly love, some other ones, I can't remember the titles. At this point I feel like in not even just like authors but like movies and the writers of tv shows, some of their weird inner thoughts be coming out in their work. So, for example, with Colleen Hoover in her book Ugly Love, two of the characters in the book have a baby and they're like, oh, we were looking at our son's penis and it's so big. We're laughing at our son's penis, something along those lines, and I'm like that's a child, like that's a newborn child. Why are you writing about looking at his penis and how big it is? And you are laughing at his penis and it's like girl, what type of shit do you be on?
Daijné:Jenny bean says twizzler is the JLO of licorice and honestly, when I first thought about it I was like well, no, but when I really think about it, she might be on to something. Side note did you and your cousins growing up beat each other with twizzlers? Or were y'all normal? Because I can't remember growing up, me and my cousins would physically beat each other with twizzlers. For what, what reason, I don't know. Bitch, we were just fucking bored. But we would have like welts you could see like the Twizzler outline on our bodies because we were hitting each other so hard with these fucking Twizzlers.
Daijné:Anyway, I feel like with Twizzlers the best Twizzler is the pull and peel. The other forms of Twizzler not that fucking girl, the pull and peel, though ate. She ate that one little thing, but again she got too much dip on her chip and she wanted to branch out and do all this other shit. Even I feel like the original twizzler not as good as the pull and peel. They really should have expanded more on the pull and peel. Jenny bean also says that red vines is better than twizzler brand. I've never tried red vine so I don't really know. I can definitely see twizzler being the JLO of licorice if we're talking about the pool and peel part, because those are the only good ones. Naughty Broad says Tyler Perry is the JLO of screenplays and film writing and directing and all things that go along with it. Ate that right, the fuck up.
Daijné:I feel like Tyler Perry really has built this huge career off of these negative black stereotypes. When I was young I didn't really peep it Like I would watch all of Tyler Perry's everything because my grandma would watch it, my family would watch it. We like that's just our thing, that we did. But honestly, like, if you really look at it, like looking at it now as a grown adult who has, like, gained consciousness, he really does, really does push like all these crazy negative stereotypes like struggle, love and like abuse and all this shit, like, can we see black people be happy for a second? I feel like there's so much limited media of black people just being happy and just being chill and just like living their lives like black luxury, like things like that. It's really limited. If we really look at media and everything and how black people are portrayed, there's not a lot of that and that don't sit right with me. There's other things that black people can relate to. There's other things that black people want to see like, can we just be happy for a second? Can we just live? Like can we fucking live? And then he has all these bad fucking wigs. If you really look at the storylines of most of his plays and and movies, he didn't eat. He didn't eat at all, and it's it's kind of a lot of the time it's the same story over and over. Like okay, we get it, we fucking get it. Can we get something else please. So yeah, I absolutely agree. I I think that he used this problematic stereotype of black people and built this career off of it.
Daijné:Salem Witch Trials 18, said my ex is the JLO of Boyfriends. Did we date the same person? Because actually that was my ex. Gotta get into Lindsay Liotta because she said Hilary Duff is the JLO of Disney Channel. Not too much on my girl, Hilary. Like not too fucking much. I can kind of see the vision of Hilary Duff being the JLO of Disney. But I'd like to submit Debbie Ryan. I feel like the acting from Debbie Ryan she's not taking it like that. Like what was, what was that? What was that for the audio listeners you can't see, but like the little hair tuck thing that she did with a little that damn smirk like girl, what are we doing? Like that was weird, that was weird.
Daijné:Shanti nikki says that Kourtney is the JLO of the Kardashians. I'm gonna have to stop you right there because I feel like if you go back to their original show keeping up with the Kardashians, Kourtney was carrying that shit on her fucking back. Her relationship with Scott was what was highlighted through all of those seasons because it was so toxic and crazy. It was up and down. Scott was putting that girl through shit and she said you know what? I'm gonna stick beside him. She really carried the show in the earlier seasons, I would say. If we look at present day, I can see the vision with Kourtney being the JLO of the Kardashians.
Daijné:But I'd like to submit Kylie. I think Kylie is the JLO of the kardashians because she built her platform off of so much problematic shit the lips, right. That was like the start of Kylie, in my opinion, with the lip kits and shit like that. That bitch had fucking filler. She was overlining the shit out of her lips and she's trying to pretend like this is just my natural lips and you, if you use my lip kits, you can get like lips to look like this too. Be so fucking for real. That is filler, that is filler. But she refused to admit that she had filler for so long she was pushing out these unrealistic beauty standards, specifically with her lips and I think, with her body a little bit too. But we'll focus on the lips, because I think that's where it all started, of trying to make these girls selling them this story that like, if you use my lip kits, your lips can look like this too.
Daijné:Also, King Kylie was the king of appropriation bitch. I can remember this one time where she had dreads she had worn dreads somewhere and people were calling her like edgy and and pushing the boundaries all these like positive shit that she got from wearing dreads. A little bit after that, Zendaya wore dreads on a red carpet and this TV host I don't even remember her name because if anyone was successfully canceled it was this TV host she was saying that Zendaya looked like she smelled like patchouli oil and weed or some shit. And it's like Zendaya the black woman is wearing dreads and y'all are shaming her for it. But Kylie the white woman can wear dreads and she's called edgy and changing the game and all this good shit like be for real, be fucking for real. So I think if we're saying any Kardashian or I guess I guess technically Kylie isn't a Kardashian. Her last name is is Jenner, but I'm just I'm putting them all together the Kardashian-Jenner clan. I think if we're giving that title to anyone in that clan, it's got to be Kylie. She really built this billionaire status off of just appropriation and selling these unrealistic beauty standards, and I think Kim is a close second.
Daijné:Someone asked what country is the JLO of the world? The US. That's easy, like it has to be the US. The United States has built this image of being one of the greatest countries in the world, but number one. Your country was built and founded on racism, so that's fucking crazy. We have a lot of shit wrong. We just hide it really well. Like we talked about last week, the 13th amendment and slavery. You know, racism is running rampant in this country, misogyny is running rampant in this country and with the re-election of Donald Trump, I feel like it's going to get really, really bad. It's going to get a lot worse. I'm scared. I am. It is getting spooky out here.
Daijné:Asia and a few other people said that Blake Lively is the JLO of acting ab. So fucking lutely, Blake Lively is a terrible fucking actress because I said this before in an episode she's so out of touch with reality that she cannot show the complexities of some of these characters that I feel like she has played. I think the only thing that I've seen Blake Lively in where I was like okay, she's eating this role is Serena in Gossip Girl. Like that's the only role I feel like she ate. And I feel like she ate that because she's a nepo baby and so playing Serena, who is this wealthy teenage young adult from the Upper East Side, and then she tried to branch out to show that she had range and diversity and it's like, girl, you don't. You don't Like, if there's a role where you can be this preppy, wealthy girl or woman, play them roles, but anything else you really take away from the story because you seem so disconnected from the character that you're trying to play. We saw that again a lot with it Ends With Us and she's trying to play this complex character.
Daijné:Who's dealing with, you know, trauma from being raised in a household with domestic violence and then now in this domestic violence situation and she's like laughing the whole time like I. I re-watched the movie the other day and in some scenes where it's like really serious and she should be like portraying that it's serious, she's like laughing like spoiler alert in the end when she's like coming to the realization that she has to divorce her husband because he's abusive and they're in the hospital bed and she's just like I want a divorce. Like girl, why are you smiling? She's like if your daughter came to you and said my husband pushed me down the stairs, what would you do? I'm like, girl, what, what is all this cheeky smile for? Like this is a serious conversation. That's what I envisioned when I was reading the book. Like this, like more tearful or serious conversation, and she's just all smiles and all laughs and I'm just like you're not giving what it needs to give because you can't connect with it. And, unfortunately, because she comes from this wealthy family, I think that her dad is like a director or something. Her father is an actor and an acting coach. I feel like, because he was in the industry, she got things and she said that too. I saw an interview of hers when she was talking about like her being in high school and she's like, oh, my parents bought me into like theater and and the choir and things like that. But I just feel like she should have definitely stuck to like the preppy wealthy roles, but she wanted to show that she, you know she had range, ie this triple threat and, girl, you're just not that.
Daijné:Raelynn Dance said that Dasani is the JLO of water. Absolutely, Dasani is ass. Like, honestly, who the fuck is keeping Dasani in business? Dasani, whenever I feel like I've drank Dasani, it makes me thirstier, like it doesn't quench my fucking thirst. It feels like whenever I'm drinking Dasani, it feels like I'm drinking the liquefication of the Sahara desert. It actually makes me angry. Fuck, if someone, if I say to someone, oh my god, I'm really, really thirsty and they try to hand me a Dasani fucking water, I might catch a case, because, bitch, this is not quenching anybody's fucking thirst. Who point yourself out? Who was drinking Dasani water? There's so many better waters Poland Springs is right there, fiji water is right there, nestle is right there. There's so many better choices that you could have than Dasani water. If you're drinking Dasani water, I genuinely need you to go back through your life trauma and figure out what brought you here, because you need to unpack that.
Daijné:Maya ate. Maya said Jill Stein is the JLO of politics. Well, yes, well, yes. That lady tricks y'all every four years into thinking that you should vote for her, and then she goes back into hiding until the next election cycle comes out, and then she comes back and I don't understand how so many of you bitches fall for this shit every four fucking years, but it's getting out of hand. Why is she so good at tricking you bitches?
Daijné:Now, this is a conspiracy theory. This is just my opinion. This is all alleged, but I think Jill Stein is a plant to divide the Democratic Party. You have to use your fucking brain, you know what I mean? Like jill stein had no chance of winning this past presidential election. The green party isn't even on the ballot in all 50 states, and I said this in a in a tiktok and I will say it forever, like I'm going to stand on it.
Daijné:If you voted third party or you decided not to vote or you voted for trump, you had a hand in kamala harris losing. And if you used your platform to encourage people to vote third party or to encourage people not to vote at all, you have a hand. You are responsible for trump winning that election because, at the end of the day, the conservatives and the Trump supporters are always going to vote for Trump. They're always going to vote. Their vote is locked the fuck in. So if you split the vote on the left, it's partially your fault. You got played and that lady played you and then she went back into hiding.
Daijné:Jill Stein has not posted for real about anything since November 14th, since nine days after the election broad back ends of her coal, she. And then she'll come back out the next election cycle if she's still around and she will do the same thing. She will play in y'all's face and y'all will fall for it. Every time, I think for those who voted for trump or decided not to vote or whatever, voted third party, unfortunately, y'all have been finding voted third party. Unfortunately, y'all have been finding out. Y'all fucked around and y'all have been finding out. Y'all will continue to find out. My only thing is like I didn't fuck around, but unfortunately I still have to find out. I hate you bitches for that.
Daijné:Cocoalore28 says that Kendall is the JLO of modeling. Abso-fucking-lutely. She's built her platform off of just her family and it's so funny to me she used to say in her like earlier years when she was applying for jobs or whatever, she wouldn't put her last name, she would just put kendall to kind of separate herself from her family. And it's like girl the second, they see your face, they fucking know. Like be so fucking for real. She tried to use that as a way to be like look, I didn't, I didn't build my career off of my family. Like I, I worked for this and it's like okay, girl, JB said I want to say a certain person is a JLO of a certain type of music, but I don't want a bunch of 13 to 40 year olds in sparkly outfits coming for me. Enough fucking said. And JB did not tell one fucking lie. And since JB doesn't want to say it, y'all can come for me. I don't give a fuck, I just boost my engagement.
Daijné:Taylor Swift is the JLO of what is she like? A pop artist at this point, she's the fucking JLO of whatever category she's in. I unfortunately think that people, specifically white women, like to boost white mediocrity, and I think that's definitely what we see with Taylor Swift. I think she is extremely mediocre. I think she is a good writer. I think that's definitely what we see with Taylor Swift. I think she is extremely mediocre. I think she is a good writer. I think, unfortunately, she kind of does write about the same thing over and over, but I mean her lyrics eat sometimes. I guess I've never really understood the hype, though. So, yes, jb didn't lie Taylor Swift, unfortunately I don't see her as that girl, but if y'all like it, I love it.
Daijné:I guess Hollywood the Entertainer said Tesla is the JLO of trucks. Abso-fucking-lutely. I could be having the best day in the world and I'm walking down the street. Everything has been going perfect that day. It is amazing the second I see a fucking Cybertruck. I want to get physically fucking violent. What is the point of a fucking Cybertruck Like I? They piss me off so bad Cybertrucks are not. That girl have never been. That girl Will never be that girl.
Daijné:I didn't see any comments of anyone saying who is the JLO of fast food. Um, it's definitely Arby's, though I think the curly fries are the only thing keeping them in business. There are some honorable mentions here that I feel like I don't know enough about to really comment on, but I'll just say them, and if y'all want to comment on them you can in the comments. Honey Business says that B Simone is the JLO of comedy. Patrick Vega says Rachel Ray is the JLO of TV chefs.
Daijné:One of the most liked comments was from WC Taz. He says that Hulk Hogan is the JLO of pro wrestling. Robin is the JLO of RHOP. Celery Salt is the JLO of seasonings. I don't even know what the fuck Celery Salt is. They said who was going to the grocery store for this. I agree, I don't even know what Celery Salt is. Someone said Family Guy is the JLO of cartoon comedy.
Daijné:There's so many more good ones, but I feel like if I keep reading comments, this episode will never end, and so we have to just wrap up the episode at some point. Thank you to everyone who left a comment. Um, you guys ate that. You guys did so good. There were so many good ones. I would wish I could read them all, but we would be here for hours. Let me know if you guys enjoyed this. We can maybe do a part two in the future. Thank you all for tuning in and I will see you in the next episode. Peace and love. Talk to you later. The Napkin In Between, hosted by Daijné Jones, produced by Daijné Jones, post-production by Daijné Jones, music by Sam Champagne and graphics by Isma Vidal. Don't forget to like and subscribe. See you next episode.