The Napkin In Between

No One Is "Illegal" On Stolen Land!!!!!!!

Daijné Jones Season 1 Episode 24

The warmth of summer brings a curious duality – the freedom to embrace joy juxtaposed against a backdrop of urgent social issues. In this candid conversation, I reflect on how kicking off summer with Beyoncé's concert and experiencing Gov Ball's electric atmosphere provided much-needed mental respite while still acknowledging the weight of our current political landscape.

T-Pain's nostalgic performances transported me back to simpler college days, sparking reflections on educational paths not taken and how we define success beyond traditional routes. This naturally flows into a deeper examination of what brings authentic fulfillment – for me, it's creating digestible, educational content that balances humor with substance.

Against this backdrop of personal joy, I can't ignore the troubling developments in Los Angeles, where ICE raids and National Guard deployments have created a chilling effect on constitutional rights. The targeting of immigrant communities raises fundamental questions about America's identity and values. When we examine the arbitrary nature of borders on stolen land and the hypocrisy in how immigration laws are selectively enforced, the underlying issues of racism and authoritarianism become impossible to ignore.

The false dichotomy between resting and speaking up during difficult times deserves examination – both approaches have merit depending on individual circumstances. What matters is respecting each person's choice rather than imposing a single response to crisis. For those choosing to protest, I offer practical safety advice while emphasizing the importance of knowing your rights.

Finding balance between seeking joy and fighting injustice isn't easy, but it's necessary for sustainable activism. How are you balancing summer fun with standing for what matters? Share your thoughts, and remember that however you choose to respond to these challenging times, your approach is valid as long as it's authentic to you.

Daijné:

Is this thing on? Hello hello. Uh-oh, another yapper with a mic. Ha ha ha ha. Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Napkin In Between Podcast. I am your host, Daijné Jones. I hope everyone has been having a good week, except for that orange drink lady, of course Y'all. Summer is here. Summer is finally here.

Daijné:

I know I've been saying in a couple of my episodes like I'm so excited for summer, I can't wait for summer to be here. Summer has arrived and I'm so happy, like my mood is just so much better when the sun is out, like sun's out buns out. You know what I mean. I feel like I kicked off my summer in the best way, because the first thing I did to start off the summer was see beyonce in concert, which I mean starting off summer with a banger. You know what I mean. And then last weekend I went to gov ball, which, if you're unfamiliar with gov ball, it's new york city's version of coachella. It's a three-day music festival and I had a fucking a time was had, a time was had. I only went on friday. That was the only day that I was interested in, and so the lineup that I was interested in seeing was t-pain tyla and tyla the creator and t-pain.

Daijné:

He is like a timeless treasure, like we. We don't talk about him enough. The way that he's still around and relevant and still putting on great shows. I love that man and it's like he pops in and out you know what I mean. Like he'll pop in, he'll do a song with somebody, then he'll pop back out. He'll pop in, do a show and then he'll pop back out. At least that's what I've noticed. Maybe he's, maybe I'm just not keeping up with him as much as you know he's doing stuff, but I feel like he really pops in and out and he did, of course, all the throwback songs Low Up Down Buy you a Drink, I'm in Love with a Stripper. All I Do is Win Like ugh.

Daijné:

I felt like I was transported back to simpler times in high school and college. Like I say all the time, I wish I could go back to high school or college because I just didn't appreciate that time enough. Like it was no bills, all fun, I was with my best friends, all the time like, oh, I miss college and I really wish. I feel like my biggest regret of college and I was talking about this with Talia the other day I wish that I had gone to an HBCU. Like that is my biggest regret from college is not going to an HBCU. I would have turned the fuck up at an hbcu like, but like when I was going to high school, I grew up in a predominantly white area, very little black people like it's. Like my family and a couple other families were the only black people in the town. Most of my graduating class was white, like just surrounded by whiteness, and my guidance counselor, my teachers, like nobody told me that there were these things called hbcus, that, like, I could go to and be around other black people. You know what I mean. So I'm like I wish that I had more knowledge and I wish that I knew better about like different colleges and like what my opportunities were.

Daijné:

Because, honestly, like, my biggest regret is either not going to an hbcu or going to college at all. Like college is not as necessary as I feel, like it maybe once was. Like there are other things that you can do and be successful at and not need a college degree for. Like, for example, me, creating content. You don't need a college degree to be a content creator and like, maybe, like if you did like videography or editing or cinematography, something like that. It would make your content better, but, like, you can learn that stuff on YouTube. Everything that I've learned about content has been on YouTube, or a tutorial or something. You know what I mean. So it's like you don't need a college degree for that and it's like this is what I want to do. This is what makes me happiest the most is just making my silly little videos and talking into a mic and sitting on my bed. You me happiest the most is just making my silly little videos and talking into a mic and sitting on my bed. You know what I mean. So it's like I wish that I knew that there were other options rather than college, and I also wish that I knew that HBCUs were a thing. Those are my two biggest regrets from college.

Daijné:

But anyway, t-pain was doing all the throwbacks and I was transported back to college and, uh, it was just, he was so good. He was definitely my highlight of GovBall and this is the peak of my week. By the way, I don't know if I said that already, but I I just love with. They don't make music like that anymore. Like, oh, I just love him. It was so good and he's such a good performer too. He's so funny, he's a good singer. Like yes, he raps and different things like that, but like his singing voice, he's such a good singer I was like blown away by it. So t-pan was definitely the highlight for me. And then my second favorite was tyla. She was really, really good. Her voice is so pretty. She's so cute and tiny in person like I didn't realize how little she is, but she, she was a great performer and you know, like tyla, she's that girl for real. Like I, I actually really like tyla.

Daijné:

And then tyler the creator. Admittedly, I don't listen to a lot of tyler the creator. My roommate, talia, was most excited to see tyler the creator. I didn't really know any of the songs that he was singing, but it was a good show. Like it was entertaining. The only thing I didn't like about tyler the creator wasn't even tyler, it was the crowd. Like they, everyone kept creating mosh pits, and mosh pits are one of the scariest things that I've ever seen or been slightly a part of. Like I, I had never been a part of one before that and I had never really seen one before that, but like that was like so scary it would like people would push you back and like create like this open empty circle, and then everyone would rush into the circle and start jumping and like going crazy and it was just so overstimulating and zero out of ten. Not a good time. I did not like the mosh pits, but other than that, golf ball was a really good time. Um, I went last year too, and it's just.

Daijné:

I just love live music. I, if I can be at a concert like every day of my life, I probably would. I just love listening to people sing, even if I don't really know their songs or their discography or you know whatever, I just love hearing people sing. I just love talented people. You know what I mean. I love people who can put on a good show or who can sing really well or just whatever you can do creatively. I love seeing people do that, because I think that that's so important to use your creative brain, because I feel like that's kind of an escape from all the craziness in the world. You know what I mean? Like shit's going on always, all the time. There's always something going on and if you can just escape and listen to somebody be creative or be creative yourself, I feel like that is truly, something that's really been keeping me grounded this year is that I've really been focusing a lot more on my content creation, especially with the podcast, and it's like that's really what brings me joy and that's like where I find like security and safety and just like I can escape.

Daijné:

That's like my escapism. You know what I mean. It's like my escapism, you know what I mean. It's like that's where I go to like not really think, even though I do, a lot of my content is talking about world issues and different things. Like that. I try to do it in a way that's fun for me and that's fun for you guys as well. Like I do know, like I joke a lot and sometimes I worry like am I joking too much? Like are they understanding the message or is it more of the jokes that they're getting? And I feel like I'm so grateful because you guys truly understand the messages that I'm trying to put out.

Daijné:

Like I remember one time a couple months ago, someone had commented from a fake account, of course that, um, my content wasn't actually educational, like people were just tuning in because I was funny or whatever. And I'm not gonna lie like that really upset me, because I was like, yes, I love being funny and I love being entertaining, but at the end of the day, like I want my content to stand for something, I want my content to mean something, I want my content to educate someone. And so I was like boy, fuck you. Like like you're lying, like that's not true. And so I I made a video and I asked you guys, like you know well, actually first him, and I went back and forth a little bit I'm assuming it was a man, because very much man energy. Um, we were going back and forth a little bit and I was like no, that's not true. Like people follow me because I'm educational. And he was like no, You're just entertaining. And so I said to him like I'm gonna make a video tomorrow With this comment and I'm just gonna ask my audience, like why do y'all follow me? And so I made the video.

Daijné:

I deleted our comment thread because I didn't want any of you to go back and read what we were saying and then just side With me. I wanted it to be your real answers. And so I deleted the comment thread and I made a video asking you guys, like what made you follow me? Like, why do you engage with me, whatever, whatever and what do you fucking know? A lot of the comments were like, oh, you're educational, you stand up for black people, you stand up for black women, you stand up for people in the lgbtqia plus community, you stand up for trans women like basically affirming that you guys understand the importance and the the realness behind my content, and that made me feel really happy. And then he blocked me because he was wrong. Like, bitch, apologize to me right now because you hurt my feelings and I didn't like that.

Daijné:

But thankfully I found out that you guys are, you know, being educated about my content, which is the entire goal. Like, yes, I like being funny, yes, I love snatching that orange drink, ladies wig every chance that I get. But, more than anything, I like educating and I like making it digestible to everyone. I feel like I've been told that a couple times by you guys is like my content is educational and digestible and I love that. That is like the best compliment that I've ever received is that you guys can truly learn from my content, which is amazing. So, anyway, gumpall was amazing.

Daijné:

I love seeing people be creative and I just love live music, and so I'm just excited because summer is here, summer is here and I'm excited and I just want to do so much this summer. So if you see me outside, don't be alarmed. Outside is calling and I'm answering the phone every time. That has been the peak of my week. Please tell me the peak of your week. Something that made you smile, kept you grounded. That has been the peak of my week. Please tell me the peak of your week. Something that made you smile, kept you grounded, kept you sane in the chaos of the world. Speaking of chaos and needing creativity or something to ground you and be your safe space and be your escape. I wanna talk about what's going on in LA right now, because this is an extremely slippery slope and I'm not gonna yai, I'm really scared that we are going to tumble down this slope if somebody doesn't do something, and do something fast.

Daijné:

So, as we know, one of Trump's biggest promises on the campaign trail was to deport illegal immigrants and get the illegals and the criminals and whatever out of the US, which is crazy because he's a criminal himself. So when are you leaving? First and foremost, but anyway. So ever since he was sworn in, there have been ice raids. They're going into schools, churches, like anywhere to find quote-unquote illegal immigrants and like deport them. Keep in mind that some of the people that they're detaining are not illegal immigrants. They are people who have birth certificates, there are people who have green cards, there are people who were born here, who have lived here their entire lives and, just like anyone and everyone that is not a white person is like, they're like targeting or they're trying to round up.

Daijné:

And so in la recently, there have been protests because of the ICE raids and people are protesting, ice and then breaking up families and deporting people from the US, and Trump deployed the National Guard to LA and essentially said that the protests were not peaceful and that LA residents were destroying the city and the national guard needed to go there to bring the peace. I say in quotes because they're not there to bring peace, they're there to disrupt it. Um, and so now, ever since the national guard has gone to la, they've been essentially terrorizing the citizens and the residents there as they're peacefully protesting. They're shooting them with pellets, they're tear gassing them, they're they're just wreaking havoc. They're literally, like I said, they're not there to bring peace, they're there to disrupt it.

Daijné:

And this is insanely scary to me because, as us citizens. We have the right to protest. That is in the First Amendment of our Constitution. We have the right to peacefully protest. And the fact that Trump, because he doesn't like that people are protesting and that he doesn't like what's happening, he's sending in the National Guard to terrorize these people and essentially strip them of their rights is so fucking scary. Trump wants to be a dictator so fucking bad. Anyone who speaks out against him, him, anyone who protests against what he's doing, he feels like they are criminals and they're doing something wrong and he should be able to do whatever he wants to silence them. That's not how america works. America is not a dictatorship. We as citizens have rights.

Daijné:

And the fact that the national guard you swore to an oath, you swore to uphold the constitution, you swore to follow presidential orders when they were in line with the law, right? So I I honestly don't give a fuck. I made a video the other day and I said the excuse like we're just following orders is not gonna fucking cut it. And there were army people in my comments upset like well, like I can't, just not, like I could go to jail if I don't follow orders. I don't give a fuck. Honestly, I actually couldn't give a fuck less, because, hey y'all, for the ones watching, you're probably like why is she in a brand new outfit? It's the next day.

Daijné:

I was mid-sentence and my SD card said memory full. So I went to switch out my SD cards with my backup one and it said, like this SD card is written something I don't know. It wasn't working. That's the important part. So I had to go out get a new SD card and then by the time I got back, I was like, oh, I'll just finish recording tomorrow, because it was just I had to go out get a new sd card. And then, by the time I got back, I was like, uh, I'll just finish recording tomorrow, because it was just, I had to go to work and, like it just didn't have enough time. So donald trump really tried to pull a j-lo and steal the voice of a black woman, like, no, we're just gonna go get another sd card and get back to regularly scheduled programming. So anyway, as I was saying, the excuse, oh, it's just my job, I'm just following orders. It didn't work. Oh, it's just my job, I'm just following orders. It didn't work before and it's not going to work now, because I don't give a fuck.

Daijné:

Your main order is to uphold the Constitution and to defend citizens' rights. And you, going to peaceful protests and wreaking havoc is literally fucking illegal. Donald Trump sending in the National Guard when even Gavin Newsom, the governor, said most of the protests have been peaceful. The police here have already, you know, done what's needed to be done. We don't need any extra hands. And you're just like no, I'm gonna do this because I don't like that. They're protesting me. Fuck you, it doesn't matter what you like. These are our fucking rights. We're allowed to protest peacefully, hello. So the excuse is I could go to jail like I'm just following orders. I don't give a fuck, because your main order is to uphold the constitution and uphold the law.

Daijné:

And then I had another person in my comments who said that they were in the national guard. I don't know these people, but said he was in the national guard. He's talking about some uh, we don't have enough time to know all the laws, like. When we get an order, we have to follow it immediately. We don't have enough time to look in to see if it's a lawful order. If you don't know the laws, then you shouldn't be in the National Guard.

Daijné:

You saying I don't know a part of my job, then don't do that fucking job. I'm a full time nanny, outside of content creation. If I went to the interview and I was like, yeah, I don't really know a lot about kids, I don't know about their physical and emotional development, I don't know, know, you know how to schedule things, like I wouldn't get the fucking job right. Like hello, if you don't have the qualifications, don't sign up for that job. So that's not an excuse to me either. And also, like, I feel like the right to free speech is a pretty well known law. No, like, like, come on now we. That's not not an excuse at all. I do not care, because again, at the end of the day, when you swear to that oath to uphold the constitution and to follow orders from the president when they align with the law, that's what you swore to. So if you feel like you can't back that up and you can't stand on business and stand on that oath, then you shouldn't have sworn to it in the first place.

Daijné:

I really don't know what to tell you. Like we, as us citizens, have rights and even whether y'all really like to believe it or realize it or recognize it or not illegal. In quotes I say immigrants have rights as well. Once they're here, they have rights. You can't just deport them without due process. Everyone has rights and I literally you cannot make me give a fuck if somebody is in the us legally or not.

Daijné:

I genuinely that is propaganda I will never fall for. I genuinely don't givea fuck because, at the end of the day, if you are not native to this land, you are here illegally. This is stolen land. So if you had land passed down from your ancestors, that was stolen land. So that's receiving stolen property, which is fucking illegal. Or you were kidnapped from your home and brought here. Kidnapping is illegal. Like, if you are not native to this land, you are here illegally. So you can't make me give a fuck whether or not someone has a paper or not. And also, that's the stupidest fucking thing. Like, think about it honestly. If we can just change borders or we can say this piece of land used to belong to this place, but now we're making this treaty where now it belongs to this space, we're gonna change this border, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that. I don't give a fuck. They're not real. None of it's real. Borders are fucking real. It's all land in america. It's all fucking stolen. So it's like I don't give a fuck if they're just here and they want to come here and have a better life.

Daijné:

Some people literally try to get into america on foot. Some people try to swim across the ocean to get to america. You think that they're leaving their homes and trying to come here by foot or by water because they just want to come here and wreak havoc. No, they're obviously trying to escape something. Hence the reason they're on foot or trying to swim here. Like you think they're just doing this for their fucking health. In some cases maybe they are, but it's to benefit their health, not to make their lives worse. Like, can we just think for a second? Most people who immigrate here aren't here just to wreak fucking havoc. They're here to actually pull themselves up by their bootstraps and work really hard and do jobs that half of y'all who are so upset that immigrants are here and want them gone the jobs that they're doing you wouldn't even think about doing. They're doing some of the hardest jobs in the fields with crops, like. They are the hardest working people. They are the backbone of america.

Daijné:

America is literally a melting pot. It's's everyone here. If you're not native, is from somewhere else. So it's like I don't care, like I just you cannot make me care, because these people just want a better life for themselves and their families and they're doing hard work. Literally, the backbone of America is immigrants and all they want is a better chance at life. All they want is to live peacefully. And you bitches are going into their homes, tearing up families, going into. There was one instance in LA where they went to a I can't remember if it was a middle school or high school, but it was a graduation. They went to a graduation to try to find illegal immigrants. Or they go to like these people who are you, you always say come here the right way. They're going to court to try to get legal status and they're picking them up from their court dates. Like, what do you want these people to do? Holy fuck all, while mind you rooting and tooting for fucking elon musk talking about how great of a human he is.

Daijné:

He's here to save america. He was in america illegally at one point. He came to america on a student visa to attend stanford, dropped out of stanford to work on one of his businesses, so that would mean he needed a work visa, but he didn't have a work visa. He had a student visa. So when he dropped out of college and started to just work, he was here illegally. He didn't have the correct paperwork. I've never heard them tell him to go back to africa.

Daijné:

So, like, like, you don't actually care about illegal because, first of all, you're talking about some oh my god, they're breaking the law. First of all, it's it's civil. It's not a criminal charge, that's number one. But second of all, the man who did break the law criminally and is a 34 time felon. You were lining up skipping to the election polls on the one in three beat to vote for him. So it's like you don't actually give a fuck if someone's breaking the law. You give a fuck if they're breaking the law and if their skin is too dark.

Daijné:

Like, let's be real, you're literally just fucking racist, because we have this fucking dried out orange in the white house who is criminally a fucking felon, and we have elon musk, who violated the legal like ways to come here. Y'all never want to call them out for that, though. The same people who are hooting and hollering about oh, they're criminals, they came here illegally do it the right way. Criminal didn't do it the right way. We're not holding them accountable, though. What's the reason? You're fucking racist. Period, the fucking end. Y'all are just a very unserious group of people. It's literally a cult. It's blindly following, shaking your head in agreement to whatever the fuck he says. And it's like you. You're just demented and sick individuals.

Daijné:

If you feel like it is okay or it is a good thing that families are being ripped apart, that friends are being are disappearing, that people who have fucking paperwork birth certificates, green cards, whatever are also being picked up because of the color of their skin, like this is the most disgusting thing and it's a slippery fucking slope, like I said before, and I feel like everything that he does is a test and if he gets away with it once, he's going to continue to do it. Do you know what I mean? Like sending the national guard to la seeing if, if that goes over, well, I feel like everything is like a test run. Everything's like a guinea pig because he has no idea what the fuck he's doing, because he's not a smart person like oh, I get so angry because it's like when does somebody step in and actually do something, like someone in congress or someone like in a higher position. When do we stop him? Because this is getting really scary and history is literally repeating itself in front of our eyes and we can look at other parts of history and be like how did we let this happen? How like how? Why did nobody stop him? Why is nobody stopping trump? Why is nobody stopping him? It is just really spooky times and I'm also getting really annoyed with the. This isn't our fight. We're supposed to be resting. Dah, dah, dah, dah. If you wanna rest as someone who's a part of the 92 or the 80%, if you feel like what you wanna do is rest and not speak up or do whatever totally fair, go do that. But when it gets to the point where you're trying to berate or to convince other people to not stand up or to speak out, I feel like that's an issue, because at the end of the day, we all have a choice. If your choice is to rest and you don't want to speak up, you don't want to do anything, you don't want to be involved, by all means go do that. But if I want to speak about it because I feel like it's important to me and I feel like I want to speak about it, then let me like I have that choice too. You know what I mean, and I keep seeing DMs or comments that I'm getting of people being like, oh, like you should be resting. Like, let them handle it. This isn't our fight.

Daijné:

There is a population of haitian immigrants in the us who are also being targeted. There's also black immigrants from the caribbean places like jamaica, the panama. There's also afro latinas. Like the image that you have in your brain when you think of latino or you think of immigrant is so much bigger than just people from Mexico. There are immigrants from all over who are black and brown, that come to America. So this is not just a Latino problem. Or when you say it's an immigrant problem and you're thinking, oh, the immigrants from Mexico. No, this is a problem for all immigrants and also a problem for black americans. Like if natural born hispanic and latino immigrants are also being picked up, that could also very easily trickle down to natural born black us citizens being picked up. Do you know what I mean? Like this is going to also affect black people and even if it's not immigrants who are being targeted, natural born citizens are also being targeted.

Daijné:

The right now I feel like the majority that I've seen are a part of the latino community, but also that's not true either, because black people have always been a target in the us. You know what I mean, and people are like, oh, it's gonna be black people next. It's black people right now, like the ha? Haitian population, police brutality, like those are things that are affecting black people and have affected black people since the beginning of this fucking country. Do you know what I mean?

Daijné:

So it's like if people want to bring attention to it and they want to talk about it and that's what they want to do, I feel like that's important as well. It's also important to prioritize your mental health and if you feel like you want to rest, you don't want to talk about it, whatever, whatever then go do that. That's, that's completely on you and that is, if that's what you want to do, that's your choice. My choice because I can see this slippery slope and I can see how black people have been treated in this country forever is to call attention to it, because I think that it's important and I think that we should. I'm not going to tell anyone who feels like they want to rest. No, you need to get up. You need to fight. You need to give me and other people that same grace and stop telling us what we should be doing. Let us do what we want to do. You, you do what you want to do and we'll do what we want to do.

Daijné:

And I feel like it is extremely important to call out the similarities of what's going on right now and what has gone on in history, and how quickly this can get really bad. Like I'm I'm scared. I feel like not only in the US, like he's damn near trying to incite a civil war, but also like him fucking with other countries. Like I'm scared y'all, like I don't. I don't want to scare anybody else, but it's like we got to realize these signs. Like he is out of control and he's just doing whatever the fuck he wants to do, and that's not how America works, that's not how our government works or it's not how it should work. So I truly like someone needs to do something, like like what the fuck? This is going to get crazy out of hand, crazy fast if somebody does not step in and do something.

Daijné:

So, with that being said, and as we wrap up today's episode, to everyone in la who was exercising their first amendment right to peacefully protest. I am so incredibly proud of you. You are taking a stand in something that is really important and I want to give you your flowers, but also I want to remind you to please be safe. We are in crazy, crazy times with this wannabe dictator in office, and I just want to make sure that Everyone is being safe. Exercise your rights Absolutely, but please be safe while doing so. Do not allow them to incite you to violence. That is what they want, so that they can use force against you. Bring extra water them to incite you to violence. That is what they want, so that they can use force against you. Bring extra water, um.

Daijné:

I'm pretty sure that I've heard that milk also helps with things like tear gas and different things like that to flush out your eyes. So make sure you have that in terms of what you wear and different things like that. Try to wear things that would make you undetectable or unidentifiable, like things without logos or different things like that a mask, if you can wear that to cover your face a little bit, or a hat, just something to cover your face. I've also heard that goggles, swim goggles, lab goggles any sort of goggle um will help with your eyes with things like tear gas and other things like that. Just remember your rights.

Daijné:

You, you know you don't have to give information. If you don't want to, you can plead the fifth, and also for immigrants as well, you have rights as well. If you're stopped, you don't have to answer any questions. You don't have to give them any information. I just want to encourage everyone to be safe, know your rights, know what you can and can't do, the things that you're able to withhold, the things that you say. Just don't incriminate yourself. Don't allow them to incite you to violence. That is what they want and that is just. I don't give them any reason like. I've seen crazy videos of the police themselves, like smashing in the police windows and destroying property, and I know that they're trying to use all of this in order to show like look, that's unpeaceful, that's why we're here. Take as many videos as you can, record all of this document, what you can and don't be incited to violence, because that is what they want to give them an excuse or reason as to why they can do the shit that they're doing now.

Daijné:

I'm really just hopeful that something will change soon. I'm hoping that somebody in a higher position will do something, because this is just this. Terrorizing cannot keep happening. We're six months in Bitch, I'm tired. I'm tired. I need somebody to step in and do something, but in the meantime, just please, yes, utilize and exercise your rights, but also prioritize your safety. Please, just just be safe. Thank you guys, so much for watching this episode. I hope everyone is having a good week, except for that orange drink lady and I will talk to you in the next episode. Peace and love. Talk to you later. The Napkin in Between, hosted by Daijné Jones. Produced by Daijné Jones, post-production by Daijné Jones, music by Sam Champagne. A graphics by Isma Vidal Don't forget to like and subscribe. See you next episode.