Behind the Scenes of Wedding Magic: Insights from Hidden Springs Venue

Welcome back to the Nuptial Nonsense podcast, hosted by Valerie. Today, we’re recording at the picturesque Hidden Springs venue in Appison, Tennessee. Originally a summer camp, Hidden Springs has been transformed into a stunning wedding destination featuring a wedding barn and multiple on-site cabins, perfect for multi-day wedding events.

I'm joined by venue owner Julie and marketing coordinator Marissa, who recently started her journey in the wedding industry. Julie shares the venue's story, highlighting the importance of hands-on coordination to ensure seamless wedding experiences, while Marissa reflects on her fresh perspective as a recent bride and offers valuable insights about hiring coordinators and utilizing preferred vendor lists.

We also discuss the crucial role of venue selection and planning, emphasizing communication and support for couples during this exciting time. As we draw closer to the end of our first season, we're celebrating the success of Okan Willow Avent Co., which was recently nominated for North Georgia’s Best of the Best awards.

Join us for an engaging conversation packed with anecdotes, advice, and excitement about the wedding industry, and hear how our team strives to create unforgettable experiences for couples on their special days. Stay tuned for more from Nuptial Nonsense in our upcoming season!

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Welcome back to the Nuptial Nonsense podcast brought to you by Oak and Willow Avent co. I'm your host Valerie. Riley is not with us today. The medical field called so she had to answer. But I have some amazing guests today. So we're recording at Hidden Springs venue. Obviously this is not the studio.



 It's located in Appison, Tennessee. If you don't know where Appison is, it's tiny. Most people don't. It's not too far from Knoxville, not too far from Udu'wah, Tennessee, not too far from downtown Chattanooga.



 It's a little hidden gem. And our first two guests today are Julie and Marissa who work here at the venue. Julie owns the venue. So thanks guys for being here. Thanks for having us. Okay. Tell us how Hidden Springs came to be. Okay.

 Well, this property my husband and I bought about six years ago. It's crazy, right? I know. I'm like, has it been that long? No. So we bought it from the Boys and Girls Club of America. So it was previously like a youth summer camp and yeah, 170 acres of beautiful woods property has a 10 acre lake. So we renovated all the buildings into, you know, the wedding barn and there are six on-site cabins that we renovated into on-site lodging. So we really specialize in like multi-day wedding weekend events. We do a lot of single day events as well.



 So we're inside the wedding barn as we speak. And if you can look out that way, that's where that's like the main ceremony site, right? Like most people get married in that ish area. And this venue is where I got my start into the wedding world. So it's always like coming home when I come back here. And Marissa is new to the Hidden Springs family. So tell us about you.

 I'm new to the wedding world in total.



 I started working with Julie about four months ago. She took a chance on a young college graduate and I do the marketing. So Instagram website, all of that stuff. And I also just got married about four months ago as well. I actually started here the day after I got back from my honeymoon.

 I didn't realize that. Yes. That was a lot of change at once. Yeah, it really was.

 So it was, it's all fresh though. Like the whole wedding world is fresh. So that part is good. Yeah. So I have that perspective on everything.

 So tell us like from your perspective,



 um, cause you did not get married here. What were you thinking? Yeah. Um, now that you've been in the wedding world and you've actually worked at a venue, like what have you seen that like you maybe would have done differently for your own wedding or you're like, Oh dang, like that's such a good idea or new trends or whatever.

 Yeah, that's a good question. I actually had, like I had a very smooth wedding. So like there's not a lot of things that I would like to do differently. But we were talking about this. Like I think that it's just like the people you surround yourself with like in the wedding world, like your family and then coordinators, the venue you choose. I think it really needs to be very specific to like what you're able to do at that time in your life. Like I was a very like DIY bride, but I was aware that like I had the time to do that. I had the supporting people around me to like help me out with those like things and stuff. But if you're a full time student or you have a full time job or you have both, like you do both, like maybe it's probably smarter to get a coordinator and it's probably smarter to like get a venue that is more hands on with you and like wants to help you more like with that kind of stuff as well.

 Yeah. And just a side note, it's always a good idea to get a corner. Always. Yeah, that is true. So just having worked here and then having worked at other venues like Hidden Springs is one of the most hands on venues like in the well, even anywhere I've worked thus far. So thanks for that from a coordinator perspective. But like, what was your like?



 Was that something you wanted to like purposely do or it just kind of like happened? Stamps end up that way.

 It's a good question. I think when we first started, of course we were new to the industry as well. So we were learning the ropes and we quickly discovered like the key components that were needed vendor wise as far as like in order for the day to run really smoothly and then quickly what type of vendors, you know, or tasks, job responsibilities as a venue that we wanted to have a little bit more control over, like in a good sense, but just like in order to have everything run smoothly, the guests be safe.



 And so we had started out just basically like venue accommodations and then we expanded into requiring a professional coordinator, beginning to offer coordination in house and then expanded into rentals, additional things like that. But I've just found, you know, we're not trying to host 150 weddings a year here. So like, that would be, I don't, I don't understand.



 So we enjoy being able to be more hands on and like we're, you know, really supporting the couples throughout the process.



 And you know, just ensuring that everything is going to be in line for their day, knowing all the information in advance so that there's a plan and a backup plan. Yeah.

 And a backup for the backup.

 And we like, as far as the coordination, you know, we do have an in-house coordination team. We do a lot of that here, but we also have an approved list of professional coordinators that we provide for the brides to choose from as well. And that just, we're not trying to be controlling in like a bad way. It's just like, hey, they know this venue, they know our policies. We're going to be able to serve you on your day.

 Yeah.

 I talked about that before in previous, previous, that's not even a word, previous episodes. And then the one before this, when I did Emily Pendergrass, the owns legendary, she was with me and she talks about that too. Like it's so important to have people that you know, provide a good service that you know, honors like what the venue policies are because they're there for a reason. It's not like, we don't want you to have fun. So we're going to make all these policies. It's like the exact opposite. We want you to have the best day possible. So like, please don't be dumb.

 It's one of like good parenting, you know, like you have boundaries and rules for a reason is to keep them safe and give them a great. Yeah. Experience.

 I think that's one thing I would do differently. Like I did not take advantage of like the preferred vendor list. I like my venue did have, but like being on this side of it and seeing how much effort we put into like vetting our vendors, you know, and just being like, we know that they're going to be on time. They're professional. They put out a good product and like also just having multiple price points on there. Like for everybody, I wish I would have like taken more advantage of my like list that my venue had given me.

 Yeah.

 And then even like, I mean, I know when I was here, like we would have meetings about like the events prior and we would even talk about like, oh my gosh, this vendor was amazing. Like we wish everybody would use them. But then there are some that we were like, that vendor was not so amazing. Yeah. And then we never uses them again.

 Yeah.

 Thus comes preferred vendor list and or requirements because it's like we want the couple to have the best experience. So like, help me help you essentially.

 If we have situations with vendors, you know, if you remember like it, something goes south. It didn't go smoothly. We weren't impressed with it. It's not like, oh, dumb. You're gone. Never allowed back. But like we have a conversation with them and then we watch for that pattern to improve and change or if we're like, they're just not a stable service. I can't like back you and suggest that.

 For sure. Because everybody has an off day. Yeah. Things happen. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. But when it's like the consistency and then on the flip side of that one, they're consistently delivering, they're consistently great. They're consistently communicating like, right? That's the ones you want. That's the winner. For sure. Absolutely. For sure.



 Okay. What's your favorite? You will go with you first. What's your favorite thing about working in the wedding industry?

 Oh my gosh. I'm a sucker for love. Honestly. Yeah. It's so true. Like the first, literally the first week I worked here, she was like, okay, we have the last two weeks or like the two weddings of the whole wedding season. Like, can you please go? And it was like, I'd work here for like five days.

 And I was like, go immerse yourself.

 Yeah. And I had never met these people, these like two couples that got married and I'm like crying. They're walking down the aisle. I'm crying. I've never met them before, you know, but I just think I love like that we get to make that happen for them. And also like being in that shoes so recently, like in those shoes so recently, I'm like, I'm just so happy. I'm happy. I get to make other people, you know, happy like, yeah, as well. Yeah. So that's probably my favorite part. Yeah.

 What about you?

 Yeah. I, I usually am not the person on site of the event day, but I love doing all the tours and meeting the couples and just connecting. And I think I really enjoy like helping them to just kind of relax in the process. You know, sometimes they come to the tours and they're kind of uptight. Like, uh, like what questions do I ask? Like I'm adulting. This is weird. You know, it's like, I just want to hear about you. I want to hear what you have in mind and then kind of, you know, customize their tour to fit their needs. And you know, so it's, it's neat to just hear that. And then of course hearing back from them when they're like, you're the top favorite. Yeah. We're booking with you. It's just so exciting.

 Yeah.



 Um, okay Marissa, will you walk us through obtaining your marriage license?



 This is specific to Tennessee, right? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know every state. Yeah. And they are all different, which is weird. I think there'd be like some uniformity to that, but there's not, but I do have couples ask me and I, we have talked about it before. So share your knowledge.

 I'll do my best. We also do have like a lot of destination couples too. So I think that can be like a little bit confusing. You know, obviously if you live somewhere else and you're getting married somewhere else, but basically you just have to get your marriage license in the county that you're getting married in, especially in Tennessee. So if you're getting married in Hamilton County, you have to like receive your license from the Hamilton County, County clerk's office. Um, they have like a couple of rules. You have to get it 30 days or you don't have to get it 30 days prior, but you can't get it like more than 30 days prior within the 30 day. Yes. Yeah. For like to get like when you're actually going to get married. Um, also you have to turn it in. This is really rare. Usually it's about a week, but you do have to turn it in three days by three days after like the wedding.

 Really?

 Yeah. It has to be three days or they will that they're a little bit more strict in Hamilton County. I don't know if specific counties in Tennessee, but I do know that's Hamilton County for sure. Um, also like before you go, you do have to fill out an application. I did it online. That's like the best way to do it. A couple of things you do need to know. You do need to know your parents like maiden names and where they were born. Like your mom's maiden name and then where both of your parents were born super random. Okay. And I did not know where my mom was born. So I'm like calling my mom like, um, so that was kind of like embarrassing. So know that before you go. Um, and then you do have to know your social security. You don't have to bring your social security card, but you do need to know your number. Um, and then you have to have like your license with you. And then you have to have like, if you're a below 17 or 17 or younger, you have to like have your parents sign for you. Um, and then what's the other thing? Um, you have to go with your like future spouse. You can't go like you can't go just you like both of you have to be there as well to obtain the license. It's not one. Yeah. Yeah. And then you sign it right there. So the only person that has to sign it, um, is a witness and then, um,

 like you're efficient, efficient.

 Yeah. So on the day of, and then has to be turned in three days after. So yeah, that's good. It's not hard. Yeah. It's not hard. It's just like little things that nobody tells you,

 you know, like, and then that three day timeframe, that's important. Yeah. Yeah.

 Yeah. Definitely. And then they'll mail you mail it in mail for you. Oh, your license just comes in the mail and you're legally married.



 Cool. Yeah. Well, thanks for sharing that with us. Thanks for being here today. Thanks for letting us use the space. Oh, this is all part of their rental collection, by the way, the couch, the chairs, the rugs, the everything, not the mic, not the mic, um, but everything else, but, um, okay. Thanks guys. Thank you.



 Okay. And we're back with our next guest. So I know y'all have heard me talk about Hannah and Misty. They're literally my right and left hand when it comes to Okanwillow, Avantco, and they're here today and I could not be more excited to have y'all on here.



 Um, so, hey, this is Hannah. Hi. This is Misty. Hi. So Misty, you have been with me since I concocted this idea to even have this business. Um,



 I remember you were like, well, if that's what you want to do, Valerie, I mean, I'll help you. I'll do whatever you need me to do. Whatever I can do to help. Yeah. That's exactly it. And the dream was born. Here we are. There you go. I know. And then Hannah, you came on board last year.



 Thank you, Morgan. Yeah. Seriously introducing me to her.



 Um, okay. So I want to talk a little bit about vendor and not vendor. We've already talked about that venue selection. You just got married last year.

 Yeah.

 You also work at Hidden Springs. So you see all the things. So let's talk about that a little bit because I think people don't realize in the wedding world time does not move the same as like real world time does. Um, and just how important like venue selection is and how it should probably be like the first thing that you book essentially.

 Yeah.

 Um, okay. Since you're a recent bride, you also did not get married here at Hidden Springs.

 I did not. Um, so tell us that I didn't even know. Honestly, like I googled so many places and I'm, it didn't pop up. Yeah. It's really, I think it was because it

 will now. Thanks to my.



 So what made you choose your video?

 Um, just because we were getting married on top of a church in single mountain,



 um, on top of a church. I make those up in a church on top of signal. Okay.



 It was beautiful.

 It was amazing.



 So I needed somewhere close enough that we could get ready at the venue and then take a party bus up to the church. Wouldn't take long and then take everybody back to the venue. So that kind of narrowed down where I could get married. And also I wanted to be close enough to downtown because I had a lot of my family from New Hampshire and Knoxville coming in. So I wanted to be like easily accessible. If you live close to downtown, right? Like five minutes. Yeah. Okay. So that makes sense.

 Yeah. Okay. So I think I've talked about this before, but Hannah did not have a coordinator. She was her own coordinator. So looking back now, being in the wedding world,

 what would you do? What would you have done?

 What would you have done differently other than hire a coordinator? I would have got no.

 Well, I would have, I don't know. I mean, I think having a coordinator would have saved me on a lot of stress because I kept just being like a little delusional and being like, no, I've got this. It's fine. Like I got this. I can do it. I was like, it's fine. I can reach out to these people. I can do it. I didn't think about the fact that they have, I'm not going to be calling these people like I don't have, they won't be able to access me. And so then I had to make like kind of like a schedule for everybody else there being like, Hey, well this gets delivered then I need you to make sure it's good. I need you to, and they're like, it created a little stress on me, probably very stressful on other people. And I just kind of pushed it off and I'm sure they would have appreciated a coordinator telling them what to do or like not telling them what to do, but to take all that stress off of them and also telling us what to do the day of. Cause it was me basically being like, get your butts in this bus. We're going to the church. I need the guys out here now. And like my dad was the one who was getting us all grouped up to go down for like grand entrance. He had around every, yeah, because I think one of my bridesmaids was like, well, it's time, blah, blah. We need to go in. And me and my husband were like, well, we're doing this. Like, I think we were finishing up our private dinner and I don't think they realized that's what we were doing because no one was selling them what we were doing. And so then my dad came and find us. He was like, we gotta go. We're impatient. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was like, so he's like, he was like, all right, well, just tell me what you want them to do. I'll go tell them. And then you guys come down. So he's the one who was like, told my bridesmaids and groomsmen what they were doing, where to stand. I don't know where it came from. He was your impromptu coordinator. It came back to him being a dance team dad. He was like, I know what to do. That's awesome. That is the rescue. Yeah. So he did all that for us. So yeah, definitely a coordinator would have been, but I have some great stories now for me from not having a good story.

 That's for sure. Yeah. Stories have not what's not to do. Yeah.

 Most definitely. Yeah. For sure. But you got married. You might have been, it's fine. The food was good. There were drinks. There was dancing and we got married. Yeah. And people had fun. Yeah.

 Everyone was on time. I'll take it. Everybody was on time. That is a pretty sheesh.

 Especially having six bridesmaids and seven groomsmen, maybe six getting all of them round up. Yeah. Yeah.



 I'm sure that, I mean, we deal with that doing weddings.

 Yeah.



 Sometimes it's not easy. It's always the groomsmen. I feel like. Yes. And they have the least to do. Like they're not doing hair and makeup and whatever.

 It's like they don't, I think it's because they don't have anything to do. They don't take it serious at all. They're just like, whatever. Like, we're just easy flow today. We'll just show up whenever. It's been really laid back today. And all the girls are like strictly on a time schedule of like hair, makeup, when you get there, when you get dressed, everything like that. So I think they're just like, whatever. Yeah. Then again, boys will be boys. Boys are also just whatever.

 So. Yeah, ridiculous. Yeah. So Misty, from your perspective of having worked in the coronation world and having worked in the venue world, what are things that you think people don't do often enough, maybe should do. They don't understand what the responsibility is that we've had to help them do. It was not our responsibility.



 Like there's a lot of that.

 Well, there is a lot of that. And like you said, having a coordinator is the main save the day for everybody because we are always the one that they can find us and say, where's that, where's that coordinator at? Where's that girl at that I can ask a question to? That's where your team steps up. And yeah, we usually know what the answer is to those questions. Yeah. Or we can figure it out. Yes. Or we can figure it out. And there's always random, just random odd questions that you don't expect.



 And yes, always. Yes. And you're like, let me get back to you. What is it you say? Whole place. Yeah. Whole place.



 Whole place. Yeah.



 There's just the daily things that can pop up. That's can be anything from something simple as I need some bobby pins. Where do I find them at? Yes. You know, or we have no idea where the groom is.



 You know, yeah.

 That is forever seared in my brain. Yes. Like, yes. Valerie, have you seen the girl? Have you seen the girl?



 That's not the question.

 I'm like, the groom is missing. What is happening right now? He's so stressed out. Wow. It all turned out OK. It was fine. But oh, man, that was that was crazy for sure. Fun times. So now that we've all collectively worked at like other venues other than here. And like I said, this is always going to be it's my favorite video to work out because it does. It is like coming home to me. Like I have said a million times I could walk this place in my sleep because I know it so well and it's one of my favorite places on the planet. There are now other venues that we've worked out enough like Coby Creek that we filmed that last week is definitely one of them. Yeah. The Woodlands at Howe Farms, even though they are not as hands on as a lot of venues, I feel like we were there every week last year, like every week, every other week, like doing something.

 Back my hand after like just like a few weddings. I was like, I got this.

 Yeah.



 Do you guys feel like having somebody from the venue on site should like be a requirement because I have my own feelings about this.

 I do or at least somebody who knows it well enough because like what if there's a question you have and you can't reach like the person who owns it or like something goes wrong with maybe let's just say like the AC like we've had that happen before and being able you have to like call the person and wait for them to call you back. But the whole time that's happening, someone's having their ceremony there and like having to deal with that. Yeah. And so even if it's not somebody like owner or something like somebody who works for them or somebody who just knows it inside and out.

 As an on call person that will call back.

 Yeah.

 That would be great.

 Immediately. Yeah. They don't have to be on site, but just somebody who's ready to go just in case. Yeah. Yeah. What's your opinion on that?



 I think we do. We should have one on for the day and we do here. Yes. We have a host that's always here. Yeah. And you know, so many times you and I and Hannah are here working. So I work here number one. But when I'm here with you, I'm looking Willow. I'm not hidden Springs, but I still do. Yeah. You know, yeah. It's kind of 50 50 on what I have to do for the day. And it's like, okay, I'm doing this. And they're like, Oh, you work here? Like, yes, I do. But today I'm looking for today. And but we do always have a host. And I think that's the grandest thing ever because we have been at some places that's like, yeah, where's the person that knows what's happening, you know, where this is? Yeah, we don't know. We can't even find trash bags sometimes.

 No, no. Like, it's they're not there or they're not where would logistically make sense, like in the kitchen, they're not in the kitchen. And then we're like, well, crap, now what do we do?

 And one of the things that you told me when I very first started working with you that has stuck with me and I do it all the time. And it's not necessarily a good thing. But I'm taking I'm critiquing other venues. I am. We don't do that. Yeah. You know, or yes. This is we're different at mine here than they are. And yes, it's kind of a bad thing because I kind of want to hold other places to our standards. Yes. And a lot of times it's not. Yes. Most of the time it's not because, you know, not just because the boss is back there, but we're way up here.



 And some of the other ones are kind of, you know, yeah.

 Well, because I mean that I mean, I circle back to this is one of my favorite places. I mean, I don't is it because I used to actually work here? I mean, maybe, but also because it is a different standard. It is a different like I think the forefront like the policies and procedures here and like the way things go here is because in the forefront is the couples experience. That is the most important thing that like the event happens as flawlessly as possible. Not even from a coordination standpoint, just like in general.



 And yeah, we've seen some that I'm like, what, how much did you pay? Right. Exactly. What is happening right now? Exactly. And we have worked at some really great places for sure that I would love to go back to and,



 you know, we'll see what happens with that. But then there's some that I'm okay if we don't ever go back to. Right. Let's forget it happened. It's right. But I don't know. I think, you know, just even as a company, we've learned a lot and this is now the third year starting year three, which is crazy. I know. Well, that's like when Julie said the venue was like they bought it six years ago. I was like, Oh my God, it really has been six years. Like that's, I don't know.

 And this is my third year here.



 Yeah.

 That's not about age.



 Yeah. Yeah.



 People ask me how old I am and I'm like 23. Oh, wait, that was a long time ago. I just stopped at 23. I just stopped aging in my head. I'm just done.



 That's hilarious. It's fine. You're still young. It's okay. Very. Yeah. I'm 25 in my head. So I totally get what you need for sure. And the fact that my 21 year old is like, mom, do you want to go out with me? Like, do you want to go like hang out with my work friends? And I'm like, am I the cool mom? Like, when did that happen? Yes.



 Okay. So your son recently got engaged. Congratulations. Yes, he did.

 Saturday actually right here. Really? Yes. Yeah.

 Yes. You'll have to see the video.

 It was so cute. She was precious. I mean, she's, I've rewatched and rewatched. Oh, it's hilarious. I've watched that video so many times. Yeah. Yes. But they got engaged here. So they are planning a long engagement.



 Not, you know, not in any rush or anything. And I said, that's fine.

 Yeah.

 You know, take your time. Yeah. You know, do it right. So, and having a experience team to give advice to them is going to be, it's going to help them a lot.

 Oh, yeah. For sure.



 Absolutely. I'm excited for him and I'm excited for you. Yes.

 Because Katie Lope. She did a Lope. Yes.



 We started looking at venues and she had actually chosen Covey Creek.



 I'm not even sure. Yes. This one was here, I guess, but it was, it's been a several years ago, but she had chosen Covey Creek and her husband's in the Navy and he could not tell us when he could be home. We're like, we'll just narrow it down and give us a two week window. And he would say, okay. And he'd give a date and then a week later he'd say, scratch that. This has changed. We can't do it. So she, yeah, she wound up going to Groton, Connecticut to where he was in school and they eloped and got married on seaside up there. But that was pretty nice. It was very nice. That would be, yes. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, she had always thought traditional. Yeah. Pick a venue, pick a dress, pick, you know, do all the things and it just did not work out for her.

 So, but gosh, that wind just picked up. I know. I know the doors are going to, sorry, y'all, if you can hear that.



 Justin's back there like,



 he's like, I can't control the wind guys. Sorry.



 Um,



 well yeah, maybe this time they'll like, you know, cause they're here, they're locals. They're not having to worry about leave and all that stuff. Like she was.



 Um, okay. Well, let me know how I can help cause I'm really excited about it. Oh, I know. I know.



 Um, okay. So we're going to wrap it up here in just a minute, but I do have one last exciting announcement. Um, so.



 Okanewa was nominated recently for a candidate for North Georgia's best of the best awards for planning services. I don't know who nominated us. So thank you to whoever that was. It's um, they don't tell you that information, but I was so excited. I cried when I got the email.



 Um, I didn't even know that was like a thing, honestly, until I got the email. And so we are going to the banquet. Um, April 10th, we'll be there. This episode will air after that. Um, so I did get the email that we won for our category.



 So, um, I'm so excited about that. Thank you to everybody who voted. Um, thank you to all my cousins who sent it out to all their friends and voted. Like, I know you guys send it. It's like your people too. But so then when I got the email that we want, I cried again. I was just so excited. I'm going to cry there too.



 It'll be a whole thing for sure. But just like this dream that I had a few years ago and I finally took the courage to take it and like it's turning into what it is. I'm just like, so excited about that. And I just appreciate y'all. I'm going to cry.



 Gosh. Well, I'm so grateful. You gave me the opportunity to

 stop. That really is.

 I was trying to take it off of you. Nope.



 I just appreciate y'all. Literally. I could not function on wedding days if one or sometimes both of you is not there to be like, Val, calm down. Like it's okay. Don't worry brides. I really am calm when y'all see me. It's totally fine. They see me for you.



 When I'm walking in circles and I'm like, where is my phone? It's in your back pocket. I'm like, that's why you have your app. Literally, literally. But anyway, um, this is going to be the last episode for season one of an upshool nonsense. Um, thanks for everybody who's tuned in. Thanks for everybody that has supported us and shared it, commented, liked, et cetera. Um, we'll be back in a few months. Um, wedding season is starting and we're not going to have time to even breathe hardly. So yeah, literally no life for months, but, um, boy back for season two. So thank you to hidden Springs for letting us record here. Thanks, Julie.



 Um, thanks to build something media for make it happen. Thanks, Justin.



 Um, and we'll see y'all next season.