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“The Night I Packed My Bags to Relapse… and the Secret That Kept Me Sober”

Jason Coombs Episode 18

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Episode 18: “The Night I Packed My Bags to Relapse… and the Secret That Kept Me Sober”


In Episode 18 of the Get Unhooked Podcast, Jason Coombs takes listeners back to his fifth and final treatment center experience at age 31. This episode reveals the pivotal moment that changed everything - a moment balanced precariously between walking away from recovery forever and embracing the uncomfortable truth that would save his life.

Episode Highlights

[00:27] Jason introduces the person-centered approach and the "oxygen mask" principle
[03:43] Defining success as earning respect and trust from those closest to you
[05:39] The reality of being in his fifth treatment center with previous failures
[08:49] The dangerous mindset of thinking you have "treatment figured out"
[13:48] The miraculous moment of falling asleep instead of leaving treatment
[15:08] Kris's direct confrontation: "You gotta feel it to heal it"
[16:16] The two non-negotiable requirements to stay in treatment

The Moment Everything Changed

Jason's story reaches its climax at what he calls "the jumping off point" - that critical moment where addiction either claims another victim or loses its grip forever. After four failed treatment attempts, Jason arrived at his final program thinking he had mastered the art of appearing compliant while remaining unchanged.

But this treatment center operated differently. The staff refused to coddle or enable. They wouldn't co-sign his manipulation tactics. Most importantly, they challenged him to step outside his comfort zone.

The pivotal night arrived when Jason packed his belongings in anger, ready to walk 20-30 miles downtown for drugs. What happened next defies logical explanation - he simply fell asleep. "I don't even remember thinking about falling asleep," Jason reflects. "The reality is it may have well has been and probably was [divine intervention] because I don't remember thinking about falling asleep."

The Power of Therapeutic Confrontation

Upon waking, Jason encountered Kris, a counselor who would deliver the message that changed his trajectory. Her approach wasn't gentle or accommodating. Instead, she offered stark clarity:

"I could tell you're struggling, but I want you to feel it. In fact, you have to. You gotta feel it. You gotta heal it. Don't run from your emotions anymore."

Kris presented Jason with two simple requirements if he wanted to stay:

  1. Follow the rules
  2. Make amends to the patients he had wronged

These weren't suggestions or therapeutic recommendations. They were boundaries - clear, firm, and non-negotiable. Kris risked losing a client and the associated revenue, but she prioritized Jason's genuine recovery over financial considerations.

The Speed of Change and Pain

Jason introduces a fundamental principle that governs transformation: "We change at the speed of pain." This concept explains why some people remain stuck in destructive patterns while others breakthrough to lasting recovery.

Pain serves as the catalyst for change, but only when we stop running from it. As Kris taught Jason, emotions become teachers when we honor them rather than numb them. "Those feelings will be the gurus to teach me things if I don't numb and run and stuff 'em."

Wiser individuals learn from observing others' journeys rather than requiring personal catastrophe. This observation-based learning allows people to change before hitting their own rock bottom.

The Influence Principle

Perhaps the most practical insight from this episode centers on influence versus control. Jason emphasizes a truth that every family member needs to understand: "I can't change anyone else. All I can do is influence."

This realization shift

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