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My Snowblower Died, Then So Did Logic
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Start with a snowstorm and a busted snowblower; end with a hard look at how words, power, and technology shape what we believe. We move fast—defining fascism without spin, unpacking socialism and communism beyond the slogans, and tackling the messy middle where authority meets protest and law meets emotion. If you’ve ever wondered why “strong leader” gets tossed around as an insult or how “national pride” turns into a litmus test, this one lays out the definitions and the stakes in plain English.
From there, we turn to the new chaos agent: AI. When deepfakes and doctored clips blur truth, even a raw body-cam video can be dismissed as “clearly AI.” That doubt isn’t academic—it rewires civic life. We talk about how to verify sources, what platforms should or shouldn’t police, and why letting a government declare reality is a dangerous shortcut. AI isn’t just a problem, though. Robotic-assisted surgery and smarter health tools cut recovery time and catch risks earlier. The question is whether we can build safeguards as fast as we build features.
We bring the debate back to the ground: Don Lemon’s church confrontation and the FACE Act, ICE operations in Minneapolis, and the fight over data centers rising across Pennsylvania. What does real enforcement look like in a loud era? How do we weigh job counts and land use against the need for AI infrastructure? And what happens when nuclear power at Three Mile Island comes back online to feed that growth? Through it all, we keep a consistent line: precise language, verifiable facts, and honest tradeoffs beat slogans every time.
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Snowstorm Woes And Winter Mishaps
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SPEAKER_04Last time you couldn't, so I got that work out.
SPEAKER_01So while this plays our voices aren't going over it though, right? No. Ah, there it is. I don't care about that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you can you can this is the important one.
SPEAKER_03We're hot now.
SPEAKER_01I'm leaving that in. Self-deprecation leading off the program.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, Big Jim, what's up, man?
SPEAKER_04Um, let's see.
SPEAKER_01Not a lot. I'm racking my brain to think of anything personally that's going on, but it it's it's it's been a boring, boring little bit. Yeah. You know, except for digging out. Well, maybe not boring. How was uh the snow situation? Well, you know, the snow situation proved that whatever can go wrong will go wrong, right? I have this 35-year-old snowblower, it's a monster. And uh I got it running the day before, had it run for 25 solid minutes, checked the auger, checked everything out, made sure nothing was blocked, everything was going swimmingly, and uh the snow ceased, and there was about a foot of it on the ground. I got my snowblower running, and I got about 20 paces when it died. So called around the valley here and had to go all the way up to Dixon City and spend twelve hundred dollars on a new one. Nice. Just when you thought you could trust, yeah, yeah, trust nothing, trust no one.
SPEAKER_04No. We how much did you get down there?
SPEAKER_01We got quite a bit. Yeah, we got we got we got right at right at a foot, right about a foot 13 inches. And that's I'm I'm in plains, which is uh, for those of you who might not know, kind of a well, plains, it's a low-lying area, it's right next to the river. Uh the extreme uh heights got more, of course. Right. Depending on where where you sat on the map, you know.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we we got uh about the same thing, about 12, 14, something like that. Your snow blower worked? It did work. Lucky pastor. And uh I uh I would we took me and RJ, we went out uh Sunday night when it was pretty much said and done. Took us about an hour and a half to get everything all cleared up. And uh I have reverse on my snowblower, but I was getting cold and it wasn't going fast enough. So I'm pulling it back, and I must have hit ice. And my my son said your feet went up above your head. You kept holding on to the one handle, and it was the handle that kept here, and it's coming back on me. He says I'm kicking the thing. Oh man, I thought I got hurt pretty bad, but I didn't even get sore from it. I thought I was gonna get sore.
SPEAKER_01See, with my look, I'd land on my ass, take out my back, and while I'm sitting there, the snowblower would continue with the otter over my feet and legs.
SPEAKER_04It was coming, man.
SPEAKER_01It was definitely coming. But the psycho music playing in the background.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was it was rough. It was rough, but you know, the dogs loved it, especially the the uh uh uh golden retriever, he was out there the whole time. They love everything, you know. Golden retrievers are just like this is great, isn't it? He was uh just he was wet constantly for two days from being out there. But the other two idiots, they're uh they're afraid of water, and I don't get it. They're both labs, they're all three of them are labs, and I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Well whatever. The on-street the on-street parking uh that I have, like I I have several vehicles, and I I keep my truck generally out in front of my house and my car I keep in the driveway.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, unfortunately, the way that they plowed the roads, on-street parking is non-existent unless you you you dig out a massive area and I'm far too lazy for that. So I just have everything stacked in my driveway. I have a car under the car. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_04You know, as we had the same situation here. We have a garage, big four-car garage. I could get four cars in there if I wanted to, but we can't fit two. Well, you've got stuff. We have so much shit. Yeah, it's ridiculous, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so and looking at the weather forecast, like the extended forecast, this this this shit isn't melting. No. So you know, my car's gonna get a reprieve. I'm I'm I'm using the truck, which I affectionately refer to as the spruce moose. The spruce moose. And uh at at you know, between 12 and 13 miles per gallon, yeah. The truck's getting to work out, so is my credit card for gas.
SPEAKER_04But the gas prices have gone down significantly.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Thank God. And it's never but the thing is with what I drive and what you drive, uh it's never far from empty.
SPEAKER_04No, no. Uh constantly putting uh my paycheck in that thing every week, you know, close to it anyway.
SPEAKER_01But I look out the window at it though, and I'm like, it's worth every penny. I love that. I know.
SPEAKER_04That's I said my wife, I've never getting rid of this thing. I I love it. I love it. I've always had a Toyota for as long as I can remember. But uh, yeah, you know, it is what it is. And uh it's supposed to get warmer this week, however. It is a little bit.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, it's still staying below freezing. Oh, yeah. So this stuff's not going anywhere.
SPEAKER_04No, no. Now we gotta worry about floods once it does start to melt.
Trucks, Gas Prices, And Daily Life
SPEAKER_01I did I did get some great looks from my next door neighbors, though, because I had this brand spanking new uh uh self-propelled snowblower, and I'm out there making stuff happen, and and then I'm I'm I'm wearing shorts and sneakers. It doesn't bother me.
SPEAKER_04I was warm pretty much for the last part, but then I got pretty chilly.
SPEAKER_01As long as I cover my hands, I'm happy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. So, Jim, you know, what'd you think of the opening there? What's your thoughts on uh what we're talking about here today? On our agenda.
SPEAKER_01It's just essentially it's elevated name-calling, isn't it? It's people who have no real clue about the history behind those terms and the power that those words really represent, hurling them around kind of willy-nilly. They have a fraction, an iota of an idea of what those concepts are, and they're trying to apply them to somebody that they hate. They're taking a hateful concept and trying to apply it to somebody that they hate irrationally.
SPEAKER_04My biggest problem is here with this whole with people identifying our president specifically, this is why I wanted to talk about this, is because a lot of these people they don't even know what this shit means. And they're just throwing these words out there like it's like it's nothing, like there's no repercussions. And uh, like I said uh in the opening, you know, if I go to if I keep telling my son, yeah, you're dumb, you're stupid, you're a piece of shit, over and over and over again, eventually he's gonna believe it. And I believe that's what these politicians that uh repeatedly say this stuff, that is their intentions to get across to people.
SPEAKER_01Well, I also, you know, you ever hear the term confederacy of dunces? I have not, no. All right, no. Well, I think that that's the way that the left views a lot of their base. It's a confederacy of dunces, and and it's it's almost like a waterfall effect. Like we're gonna say something, we're gonna use this word, and it's gonna become the hot word because the media is gonna pick up on it coming out of our mouths because we're surrounded by microphones all the time. The media is gonna broadcast that, and the people that are on the left, the the rank and file, the base, might not know what those terms mean. They're not gonna go figure out what those terms mean because the internet is a mishmash of bad information. They just want to follow suit. And that's where the Confederacy of Dunces comes in. Right. It's it's it's it's a bastardization of the original term, but it kind of applies here.
SPEAKER_04Uh fascism is a far-right authoritarian and ultimate ultra-nationalist political ideology that emerged in an early 20th century Europe, characterized by dictorial power, centralized atrocity, militarism, and the forcible suppression of opposition. It prioritizes nation, often defined by race or culture, over individual rights aiming for a national rebirth through a stronger leader.
SPEAKER_01Now, the I'm not necessarily talking about politicians who would use that. Politicians, I think, have a good idea of what these terms mean. I think they use them as a tool.
SPEAKER_04Well, well, they do. Well, that's it. They use them as a tool, hoping to brainwash and influence.
SPEAKER_01And influence, right. But I think the average person on the ground, when they see that definition that you just read, are able to cherry pick and say, well, Trump's making strong moves, bold moves, whether you like them or not. Well, that's a strong leader. He's saying America first, and that makes him a nationalist.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01So they're they're able to cherry-pick the terminology from the official definition and try to apply it to Trump or whoever they see as an authoritarian. Right. You know what I mean? Like that they're out there breaking laws. The police are authoritarian. You know what I mean? And hence that's why you see law enforcement being called fascist. But like you're what we're talking about now is more of a political uh it's a political tool. Political tools.
SPEAKER_04But don't we we want authority though? We need authority. Right, you have anarchy. But how far does the authority go? How far should should it be taken and implemented? Pretty much uh like when we look at the situation, what's going on in in Minneapolis, and they don't want ICE there, they don't want the military there, but that is a part of the United States. I our law, the federal law overrides, should override the law of that city. So therefore, we need that authority from the federal government to override that to go in and take care of the situation, but for some reason or another, they're not doing that other than ice being in there.
Setting The Agenda: Loaded Political Labels
SPEAKER_01Well, authority also generally goes hand in hand with with something called force doctrine. Uh, so you have 500 people, let's say 500 people is a round number in the street screaming, no ice, no ice, no ice. The authority can't be exercised without force or without the threat of force. Right. That is how it works. Um, one of the interesting things, like, how far should authority go? That's actually pretty clearly defined by the laws that we have on the books. Now, people are ignorant of the laws that are on the books, and politicians are either ignorant of them or at a local level or twist them, but that authority is there. That authority is in black and white in laws that have been passed in the past, authority that has been used in the past, and today it's just a different mindset. It's uh they feel that any kind of authority is wrong, or any kind of crackdown is wrong, and and any kind of show of force is wrong. Well, guess what? Hey, you stop that in cutting it.
SPEAKER_04You need a show of force at times, right? Right. And that's exactly what we need. And I think that also a lot of these people they think they they know the law just by looking it up or you know researching it, but they don't dive in deep to amendments and and and different sections of that law, and lo and behold, they're wrong. Or even worse, they see the words, but they don't know what they mean. Exactly. That's you know, this that's why one of the reasons I wanted to talk about this today. And, you know, the difference from other systems, unlike democracy, which protests individual rights, fascism subordinates them to the state, unlike communism, which theoretically seeks classless society. Fascism believes in a natural social hierarchy and often supports private property as long as it serves the state. Who does this remind you of? Mandami. Oh my god. Right? That's this is exactly what he's trying to do in New York City. Exactly what he's trying to do.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the city owns everything, the city has a right to everything.
SPEAKER_04Right. And already he's in office, what, a month and a half? Not even, and it's failing. It's already failing.
SPEAKER_01That the price tag alone is enough to make it fail, let alone the fact that people aren't going to follow certain policies and people are going to abuse other policies, and it's not only it's not only uh uh the policies, it's it's the policies that he promised that he he really cannot deliver on.
SPEAKER_04He can't deliver on because the council has to approve this stuff. It's not and apparently he's trying to uh uh implement executive orders to get this stuff to work. And if that is also failing.
SPEAKER_01His campaign motto should have been in a perfect world. Right. Because, you know, a perfect world's never gonna happen, neither has the shit these rounds.
SPEAKER_04Right. And uh I don't know. I I don't understand why anybody would would I don't know how how the hell he got into office, to be honest with you.
What Fascism Actually Means
SPEAKER_01I really because it's New York City, and New York City likes the bucket trend. They're trying really hard to be the Eastern version of California, right? Uh or Los Angeles. But uh let's look how about we drill, we started to drill down and we got off topic here on some of the terms that are being thrown around. And uh the fascist one you hear so much. You hear it so much from people who have no idea what it is, whether it be uh a politician who's using it as a term to try to gin up uh unrest or down in the trenches where people are screaming fascist, some some idiot student who has no idea what it means. Some of my favorite uh internet clips are the ones where it's just a guy with a microphone going, You're screaming fascist, what's it mean? Well, it's when you drive really fast and it's an ism. No, it's not true. It's Donald Trump. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_04It's Donald Trump, and they don't even know.
SPEAKER_01Right. But the ignorance that shines through, they have no idea the effect of the word that they're screaming, let alone where it comes from.
SPEAKER_04That's that you know, that that's kind of the points I want to make here today. You know, if you don't know what the hell you're talking about, shut up. You know, my my son threw out a word a couple weeks ago, and it was a bad word. And I said to him, I said, Do you know what that means? And he says, No. I said, then why'd you say it? And don't say it around your grandmother or your mother. It's not and I explained to him what it was, and he said, Oh, I said, Yeah, I you know, if you don't know what it means, don't don't open your mouth.
SPEAKER_01You know, uh I I'm incredibly curious, right?
SPEAKER_04Off the mic, I'll tell you.
SPEAKER_01Okay, it's one of those things that can beat the shit out of us, too, huh?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, get uh whacked for that. Fair enough. Yeah, socialism. What do we got with socialism is an economic and political system advocating for collective or government ownership of the means of production rather than private ownership to promote equitable wealth distribution. It seeks to replace capitalist profit-driven motives with production for use, often involving economic planning and robust social welfare to meet basic needs.
SPEAKER_01Honestly, the success of socialism really really quick is dependent largely on um population. Yeah. You know what I mean? People bring up socialism for the United States. You're dealing with 360 million people, and a lot of them have their hands out. Uh socialism doesn't work. There's a there's there's democratic socialism that you see in Europe. Um like it that you mentioned in that that that definition of robust social programs, Europe is a good example of that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Europe is someplace where people could be on the government bowl for decades. Ever.
SPEAKER_04You know, and and and uh some of it like some of our citizens.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Means of production, factories, mines, banks are managed by the public, state, or worker cooperatives. The goal to reduce wealth equality, eliminates class distinctions, and ensure equitable resource distribution ranges from democratic socialism working within democracy for social safety nets to centralized command economies. Elements often include universal health care, education, and social safety nets. This is why I don't like this is why and nobody should like it, because you're you're just totally under the thumb of the government in every way, shape, and form.
SPEAKER_01And under socialism, the government um kind of like uh it it almost almost punishes innovation. Yeah. Like why why do people innovate? Why do people invent? Usually, usually, it's they come up with an idea, they spin it for profit. They want to make something. There's a return of investment, a return of ideas in a monetary form. Socialism tamps that down. Socialists are the ones that are screaming, there should never be any billionaires. Bullshit. I want to be a billionaire. Right. We all want to be a billionaire.
SPEAKER_04But if that person who said that was a billionaire, that they wouldn't be open in their mouth. Totally. You know. Uh there's uh a couple years back when Biden was in office. I was over my son's house, and we were ordering Chinese food, and we got into a discussion with one of his sisters about socialism and equality, and we ordered Chinese food, and uh it somehow it it brought up who's paying and. Divvy up the money. I said, Well, why do we want to divvy up the money? Why don't you pay for it? So, well, why should I? You want equality, right? Well, what's the difference if it's your money or my money? So that doesn't matter. Nothing to say. No. Nothing to say.
SPEAKER_01No. Socialism sounds like a grand idea until it impacts you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. You know, in a socialist system, however, there are no marketing no market pricing signals. I'm not sure exactly what that means. Do you know what that means? Could you elaborate on that?
SPEAKER_01Maybe that has something, and I'm speculating here that it has something to do with the fact that in a lot of socialist countries uh pricing runs rampant. It's it's it's why you know you go to uh um let's say uh a West African country and their currency is called the well, a cup of milk's gonna cost you seven million.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? Is it availability? No. I mean it's just maybe a little bit scarce, but not seven million worth. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04In a socialist system, however, there are no market pricing signals.
SPEAKER_03This creates chaos throughout the agreement. Right, right.
SPEAKER_04Uh in the absence of genuine private property, there may be little incentive to work hard if one cannot keep the fruits of one's labor. Why cultivate a field uh carefully if you cannot benefit from the harvest?
SPEAKER_01Conversely, what's your motivation to work? You're not about to lose anything either if the state's providing it for you. Right. So where's your where's your incentive to work hard there? That's and that's one of my my biggest issues with socialism. Uh you know, you work your ass off, the government takes it from you. You don't work your ass off, the government gives it to you. Right. This is what we talked about last week.
SPEAKER_04People on welfare and that. Why should I work hard if the government is paying me, you know, hundreds of dollars a month when I get this money for free? Why should I go work for it? Right. Even though you you should be out there working and you're not. Socialist systems are command economies that tell people to base central economic plans, even if they have other ideas. That there is uh it that kind of falls under a dictatorship, correct? Yeah, that's what I would say.
SPEAKER_01Well, absolutely socialism is is just a couple of shuffling steps away from communism.
SPEAKER_04Right, right, which which uh we'll get into here in a minute. Just a hot second. Yeah. Under socialism, you may wish to start a business, or you may have an idea, sorry, for new technology. Too bad, you must do as you're told.
SPEAKER_03And it this is what people want. This is what people want in our nation.
SPEAKER_01No. Well, well, a lot of times when I when I hear talk about socialism, and I might be wrong, and it may sound like I'm dumping on youth here, but it's a cool concept to think about where everybody's covered. Right. And there it is again in a perfect world. It's you know, the young student, you know, everybody should have this, everybody should have healthcare, everybody should have this, uh, food, everybody should have housing. It's a it's an it's a cool concept when you're younger. But as time goes on and you see how money works, and you see how industry works, and you see how work works. Yeah, you want to, there it is again, a return of investment. You invest your labor, you invest your time, you want a significant return on that, and that drives an economy. It's why socialism in its purest forms and communism in its purest forms generally lead to poverty and ultimately fail. There's example after example after example of this. And then when people say, well, it wasn't done right. Well, no shit.
Authority, Law, And Use Of Force
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and there is no right. There's not. With all this being said so far, who is who is this right now in our government? Who does this remind you of? Who are the popular politicians that want to move in this direction? AOC, Bernie Sanders, Rashida Talib, Corey Bush, Jamal Brown. These are people that you voted for that want this stuff. They want this stuff. This is who they want right here. I'll show you.
SPEAKER_03These are the socialists in their neighborhood.
SPEAKER_04Freaking clicker. There it is.
SPEAKER_03The internet will give you nothing. I like it. There's the man right there. Cromwell? No. That that's uh Mr. Adolf. Oh this is who people who then people want to be like. AOC. Bernie Sanders.
SPEAKER_04Minus the uh the atrocities that he that he did.
SPEAKER_03I don't know, give him half a chance, we'll see how that goes. And uh how about this guy here? Karl Marx. Hell of a beard. Hell of a beard, love the beard. They could do away with the hair, but this is who people want in office right now.
SPEAKER_01But but notice like, and here it is when you when when when the left wants to vilify somebody, the first person, the guy, everybody I don't like is Hitler. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think I think a lot of people throw that once again. The the difference between politicians who throw that out, that's a tool, that's a political tool, right there. That that is that is to that that is mudslinging at its highest level. But to the rank and file, to the young, to the uneducated, they hear Hitler they they they believe that somehow taking you know it's say they're saying it about Trump, Trump how somehow espouses and believes in what Hitler believed in or wants to move in that direction.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? There's there's no um there's no nuance to it for some people. They they they'll say Trump is Hitler and they'll mean that shit. They'll they'll they'll mean he for some reason they think that Trump wants to kill gays. Which is absurd. Absurd. Absurd. Listen, the guy worked in television and the entertainment business for years successfully. Yeah, you don't find success in television and entertainment if you're anti-gay. Right, not at all. Because because there's a lot of gay folks in that industry, everybody from the set designers to the to the makeup to the producers to you there's a whole slew of people that you have to deal with. And if you have that much hatred for any group, you're not gonna succeed when you're surrounded by them.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. You know, this stuff has been going on for years, socialism, communism. Uh, what is communism? The political theory derived from Karl Marx advocating class war and uh leading to society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. Communists believe that people should share wealth so that no one is too poor, no one is too rich, and everyone has enough to survive and have a good life. So if I own a business and I'm making money, the government is going to tell me how much of that profit I'm gonna keep.
SPEAKER_01You'll never be with in a communist society, you wouldn't be the owner of that business. No.
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_01At best, you would be a manager, right?
SPEAKER_04In a socialist society, you would own the business, but they're gonna tell you how much you're gonna keep. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01Also, with communism, one of the reasons that communism kind of fails all over the place is because there's always, you know, it's supposed to be a classless society. Right. But that's never the case. There in Russia, as an example, the oligarchy.
SPEAKER_04I was just gonna say that.
SPEAKER_01Magnificently wealthy people who are above the law in every respect.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Uh, even uh the the cut the communist system uh of uh of government as you rose through the ranks, your house got bigger, your car got a little shinier, the higher up that you went.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So and there's there's no there's no advancement for for the the working class. The political apparatus though, the higher that they climbed, the better their estate in life got their station in life got. So that's not that's not communism, true communism. Right. True communism is you're all you know living in the same shitty one-bedroom flat.
Socialism: Definitions And Incentives
SPEAKER_04Right. And it uh, you know, when I was in Europe, I still I was in I was over there in ninety one to ninety five. And I went on the eastern side of of uh Germany there. I got into Poland a little bit, and you could still see still uh see remnants of swastikas painted on buildings. They tried to get them off, power wash them off, they couldn't get them off. And uh you can still see that stuff. And you know, it really opened my eyes to what it was, what communism is about and uh uh Nazism. Uh we we went to uh Auschwitz, we we saw some of that. I would not go in. Would not it was just no, it it was just it's too much, too much, too much. There there was still um we we went to a portion of the where the border was, and there was a tower that they still had a guard tower, and people were going up in there uh, you know, to check it out. I wouldn't go up and um there were still sections uh of the border still uh barbed wired off because they couldn't get all the uh ordinance out. They didn't know where it all was. Uh I'm sure today uh you know now they pretty much got everything out of there, but you know, it it's a shitty way to live. You know, I asked uh the American people now that want to vote for you know uh AOC and and uh uh Rashida Talib, Corey Bush, Jamal Brown, do you want to wait in line for your food? Do you want to be told what to do? Do you want to be told how much money you can make? Do you want to work really hard and uh not enjoy the fruits of your labor? That's my question.
SPEAKER_01Well, I I think it's a good question, but you're also asking it if people who either have no idea what communism and and real socialism looks like, because historically, you know, we've we're we're what uh the 36 years beyond that.
SPEAKER_04I don't think they want to know what it was. Of course not. They don't want to they don't want to know what Hitler did or what Karl Marx did or what's going down on down in Cuba or what's going on in North Korea. They don't want to know, they do not want to know. They they're just looking at at it from a selfish point of view.
SPEAKER_01Because the people that they're voting for and agreeing with on this are promising them the other side of socialism. They're not looking at the government. We're gonna bring you up. We're gonna bring you up, and you're gonna have an equal amount of of money, or we're going to we're going to give you money for this, we're going to give you housing, we're going to give you uh uh uh medical benefits.
SPEAKER_04And they're they're voting on a promise. And that's something too, medical benefits. Okay, we're gonna give you medical medical benefits, but how good is the care going to be?
SPEAKER_01Well, it's gonna it's gonna diminish as as the more people are on a system and the lack of incentive for uh uh what I forgot I forgot the word I was gonna the innovation, right? The lack of incentive for innovation. Listen, there's breakthroughs every year because doctors are well striving for it, they're well compensated, they're gonna be rewarded for it. Uh, they're they're gonna be rewarded by their peers when they publish. That shit goes away in a socialist communist system, right? And and ask anybody uh from Europe about their health care in depth, a lot of them are gonna not be too thrilled about it. Now, there's gonna be upset, uh there's gonna be exceptions. I think there are some countries in Europe that are small enough in population that they have their shit together when it comes to uh health care. But then again, they also export a lot to us if they need really good surgery. Right. Where are you going? Well, we're gonna go to, you know.
SPEAKER_04Well, my my both my my older kids were born over there, and um it wasn't very pleasant. Well, my son was born in an American hospital there. My daughter was born in a German hospital, and the care wasn't that great. I can be honest with you. It really wasn't. Uh it was all the Germans aren't known for tenderness. No, it was a dark, gringy room. Uh it it it there was like no compassion, nothing. It it was it wasn't a good situation with that. So before we move on here, what would you say to the American people that are listening to this now? What is your advice before they go to the polls for these midterms coming up?
SPEAKER_01I would say look into places. Here it is again, you're you're dependent upon the internet for research, which is something I want to get into. But uh look historically into places where the communist experience has been experimented with. Look how that worked out. Look how unevenly things were spread out. Look at look at the look at how uh this applies to me, but not to you. Uh look at how it's destroyed economies, uh, look at how it's destroyed people. Look at the length that people have gone historically to remove themselves from communist countries to come to uh democratic countries or you know what I mean? It look at look at the look at the trail of destruction that these types of governments have left in the past and what it's done to the people. And uh bear in mind if you think it can happen here, uh you're trading the future of yourself and this country for a few shekels right now.
SPEAKER_04Yep, yep. And the one point I want to bring up too is when if this nation was to succeed and go communist or so or socialist, you will have an abundance of foreigners coming in, not only Hispanics or or uh anyone from South America, but the Middle East. And you might be uh speaking Arabic in a few years.
SPEAKER_01Well, also, if you're gonna do some research into what happened to the economies of countries who tried communism, take a look at what's happening to the social structure of countries who have accepted uh Middle Eastern Middle Eastern immigrants en masse. Right. Look what's going on in Iran right now.
SPEAKER_04Why are they people protesting?
SPEAKER_01Why? There's there's there's a lot to it, but and this is this touches on something that we talked about last week. People don't want to do that research. Kind of like the Americ the American voter doesn't want to educate themselves. Having an educated electorate is incredibly important, but what do they hear? They hear the promises. It's like reading the headline and not reading the article. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04The headlines are often very, very uh vague. Vague and misleading, like a clickbait type deal.
SPEAKER_01Or you're getting bad information on the internet, which is kind of a hand-handed segue into something else I wanted to talk about, AI.
SPEAKER_04Uh where that's what we're gonna get into next.
SPEAKER_01Uh, you know, you find yourself on the internet these days and and and you see a film, you see footage. Uh the the the that pretty guy that got shot in Minneapolis, for example. There's 600 different videos that have been put up on the internet. So many of them have been altered, so many of them have been AI generated or assisted or sweetened. You don't know what's real, you don't know what's not. But let's assume that you find an actual legitimate clip. The raw clip. The real thing. You will still have, and this goes to what you were saying before about you know, if you throw a term around enough, it will start to believe it's true. Right. So you get the real deal, you get the actual from the body camera clip of what happened. You will still in the comments section have people screaming, that's clearly AI. Right. That's clearly AI. And what does it do? It's uh it sows seeds of doubt, even when you're looking at the real thing. Right, right. And that's to me, that's the other side, that's the flip of the coin danger of AI. Now people believe nothing, or they've there's enough doubt out there that they could say the real is not real, and people will be like, sure, maybe it's not real.
SPEAKER_04You know, it's it's so questioning yourself and everything else by that. What is it in they're doing? I believe it's Australia or Austria, where they are uh monitoring what is being posted uh on social media and they're not allowing certain things that may corrupt people, uh uh something something that might be a lie or or a false narrative, something like that. Uh how does one distinguish what is AI and what is not?
SPEAKER_01And even better, are you going to allow some government entity to tell you what is real and what is not? That's what we got going on here now. And it's actually it's one of the it's one of the main tenets of of of our country is freedom of the press. Okay, you know, that that that the the press used to be it used to be a thing that kept people honest. That's far that's God. Yeah, that's God. No, as far as far uh and I don't know if it's it sounds like something Australia would do. What they're gun grabbing crap and everything else that so let's you know, I I I haven't done the research in it, but whatever country's doing that, it's just kind of what what goes on on Facebook and YouTube writ large.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01If they don't like the narrative, Facebook will pull your post. Well, that's what Facebook last week.
SPEAKER_04Some of the articles I put up, YouTube took them down. They don't like what I put up.
SPEAKER_01Well, even some of the topics that we talked about, we didn't we didn't get anything, we weren't busting out slurs or anything like that.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01And for some reason that riled them up and had to have to do with the topics that we were talking about. And and do you really want a government being able to do that? Again, if Facebook, they would always say, Well, we're Facebook, we're we're a privately owned entity. You don't want your government being able to do that. And that's always what the press was able to do. The press was always able to say, No, no, no, no, you can't do that. You know what I mean? But now you have a press that's complicit with certain factions of the government, and that's dangerous.
SPEAKER_04The press really isn't the press anymore. So, you know, I would say 98% of it is mostly uh opinion-based. Uh nobody really reports the news, and when they do report the news, you're very skeptical. Sure. Very skeptical.
SPEAKER_01And you have to look you you find yourself looking at how wherever that source is that's telling you that information in the past, how were they? How were they slanted? Were they bent left, were they bent right? Right. Uh, you know, it's it's it's no longer Walter Cronkite with a sheaf of paper in his hand and his glasses telling you what happened that day.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it it goes to show where you want to this is a a situation, you know, where you want to read just the headline and do your own research.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04And you know, you do the research on the internet, and God only knows if that is even correct half the time. Yeah. You know. Um we're with AI, you know, I love TikTok. I'm sorry, I know I'm 55 years old, but I freaking love it. And uh there's so Many videos now with AI that you do not know if it's real or not. And it's a lot of times you can distinguish if it's real, but more often than not, you can't you can't anymore.
SPEAKER_01I was struggling actually not last night, but the night before. I was I was looking through reels. Now listen, I say how I hate TikTok. Everything on Reels is just it's just from TikTok. It is. It's the same. At least I could say that I didn't download the app onto my phone. But I was watching this one particular reel that I was struggling with. And uh what it is, is it's a girl walking into a Starbucks, and she has a traditional Starbucks accept the piercing blue hair, and uh a large gorilla took her order and threw her through the window, and I'm like, oh man, can I hire that gorilla?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, uh I saw one where uh speaking of a gorilla, the gorilla they were in this uh at a zoo, I guess, and they were in the gorilla was enclosed with the big piece of glass, and the guy was on the other side, and the guy turns around and he busts ass part it. The gorilla turns around and shits all over the window like a frickin' projectile.
SPEAKER_01See, that's a that that one's a little bit harder than mine because gorillas have been hilarious. Gorillas have been known to do that.
SPEAKER_04I mean, you know. I I thought excuse me, I thought it was pretty funny. Uh I I thought it was.
SPEAKER_01But again, like the the ridic the ridiculous AI like I described, and the thing that you described, which might or might not be AI, that that that one you what you described is a scarier aspect of it. Yeah, gorillas have a tendency to shit where they want. So that could be real.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? And and those are the ones that that that freak me out, but the ones that could be real. And uh there's you know, I I wish there was a and I'm sure there are AI filters available to the general public that help you discern what's real and what's AI generated. But you know, who's doing that when they're when they're doom scrolling through reels? Nobody, nobody's doing that. Nobody.
SPEAKER_04And there I I just put in AI in the search bar, and all these come up. Chat GBT, Microsoft Co-Pilot, uh uh, you have Gemini. Uh, there's other ones out there. There's just so many. There is just so many. And uh, you know, my son sent me a picture a couple weeks ago. Uh I was over his house, they took a picture of me and my granddaughter. She was sitting on my lap. Well, they replaced uh my granddaughter with Donald Trump. You couldn't even tell, you know, it was photoshopped or AI generated.
SPEAKER_01I'm thinking Christmas cards for next year.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's what I was thinking, you know. So we're as we're talking about AI, we'll get off this pretty soon. Well, we'll get in depth as much as you want, Jim. What good is it for us as far as uh, you know, in a medical field or uh even in the trucking industry, you know, for what we do for a living. What's the benefit here?
SPEAKER_01I literally don't know. And I'll tell you, I'll I'll tell you why I say it like that. I've I've I've gotten so far into the weeds of the entertainment aspect of AI, and is it real and is it not, or is it humorous, or is it damaging, or is it political? I've gotten so far into the weeds on that, I truly don't know what the benefit of it would be in any particular field. All I see, all I think about are the things that I just listed for you, and you know, in my darker times with a couple of beers on the right belt, the Terminator. That's the other thing I think about is the Terminator.
SPEAKER_04Right. I I think it would be beneficial in the medical field. Uh, as far as uh a robot doing surgery on me. I don't know about that.
SPEAKER_01So it's gonna happen with my father when he has his kidney removed. Really? It's it's robotic surgery. No, I'm sure it's not completely AI, right? But it it it's guided by robotics and and computers and everything like that. It it it lessens how invasive it is.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Uh it it it it it lessens the recovery time, like they're talking about that they're gonna do a complete removal of his kidney, and he will probably be released from the hospital within 24 hours to go home. Yeah, wow. Now my ex-wife had a similar surgery where she had a portion of her kidney removed and they had to saw her in half like it was a magician's trick. So the the progress has been swift and it it's been beneficial. And it's cool that we're talking about this because there it is. That's something that would have never crossed my mind. Right. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04I think it would be beneficial in the medical field. Uh you know, we do these when I was sick there right before Christmas, I did a tele telehealth thing with my doctor. And uh it it made me wonder without physically being there, how could you really tell what you know what if I'm lying?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know, or you're omitting something that might be personally embarrassing, right? That would be essential to your diagnosis.
SPEAKER_04It's I don't know. AI is uh I don't know. I I like it uh as far as uh like the entertainment aspect, like you said, of course, but you've really got to be careful on uh look at look at when AI first first started coming out in um AI it they it uh copied Joe Rogan's voice. Remember that? And I I don't remember what the state is.
SPEAKER_01Even the deep fakes that they were doing that they're coming out with where they're just like digitally transpose somebody's face. Right. Yeah. That's the stuff I don't like. Yeah, you know because anybody could say anything or you could put anybody in any situation, right? And then it's up to the viewer to determine is this real or is it not?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And briefly touching back on the medical thing, like one one of the innovations that came out with the advent of the internet was WebMD.
SPEAKER_04Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_01And and you had this this this thing you can go to, you can punch in your symptoms, and and it'll give you an idea of what you had. The problem with WebMD, and and and and like you're saying, if you're omitting any information about your your health history or your symptoms, WebMD would tell you you either had the common cold or Ebola. Right. You know what I mean? Like, like it there are so many, they give you so many options.
SPEAKER_04But it's like how? How can how could you determine that without taking blood work? Exactly. You know what I mean? It yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01But did you see where your iPhone now has an upgrade where it monitors your blood pressure, blood sugar?
SPEAKER_04Put your finger on the yeah, on the camera. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I've I've been tempted and as a as a diabetic, and if if if any of you saw me out there, you'd know why I was a type 2 diabetic. But uh, I'm tempted to try that to see what that registers as far as my blood sugar, and I'm taking like an old-fashioned finger stick and see how close they are. Uh, I have no idea how good or how bad that information is. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I have an eye watch, and uh when when I go to the gym, if I walk on the treadmill, it it the treadmill will monitor my heart rate and how many calories I burn, which I don't agree with the calorie part at all, because it doesn't know what you ate for the day. And uh when I compare that to my watch, it's pretty damn accurate. Really? That's that's my heart rate anyway. I don't trust the calorie part, but the the heart rate is within a beat or two. Um I was pretty impressed with that, very impressed with that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, when I stop at Wawa um for a grape soda in my cheeseburger check my phone and see, hey, look, I'm so near death.
SPEAKER_04Oh god. We went uh we my wife's birthday was Friday. We went to uh Highbridge House up on 502. Uh third time eating there. And uh this is not an advertisement, but that food was awesome, man.
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SPEAKER_01Oh my god. What is it, like classic American fare or did they do uh like courses or yeah, uh it was uh mostly Italian stuff.
SPEAKER_04I'm there stuffed shells, linguini, all the pastas homemade there. Oh man, I ate like a pig.
SPEAKER_01They have grape soda.
SPEAKER_04You know what? They might, they might, Jim. I don't know. Well, uh next time we go, I'll I'll I'll inspire.
SPEAKER_01I'll ask. I'll have a linguini and lamb sauce and like orange or grape crush.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. But uh yeah, the food was uh phenomenal. So yeah, happy birthday to my wife, 52. So happy birthday. Yeah, she's taking a nap right now. She's busting her ass. I'll tell you what, not to get off the topic, but I don't know how she's getting it all in. She works a full-time job 40 plus hours a week.
SPEAKER_03She's going for her master's degree, and she's teaching three classes at night. It's one of those classes on how to nap.
SPEAKER_04Jesus. You know, and she comes home and she's trying to clean up a little bit, she's trying to do some laundry. I mean, we and me and the boy try to do as much as we can to help her, but uh, I don't know, I don't know how the freak she's getting it all in, but she's doing it. I don't know. We'll see. See how this turns out at the end. Giant bottle of Adderall that she's hiding in her something, man. I don't know, but she's getting it done. Uh we got Dom Lemon and Ice. Which where do you want to go? Where do which one do you want to touch on first?
SPEAKER_01You know what? Since since we were also talking, we were just talking about media, social media, and all that other stuff. Let's let's hit Don Lemon. Sure. And when I say hit Don Lemon, I mean with a bat. Um this is a despicable human being. Uh just I'm not even talking about his political bent. I'm talking about just as a human being, just as how many have been times how many times he's been proven wrong, how many times he's been caught in uh uh compromising positions with his opinions. And and again, you you made a point about the uh the difference between press and opinion pieces these days. Um he calls himself a journalist. I think he ought to have his mouth washed out with soap just for using that word.
SPEAKER_03Um he uh went into a church that was being disrupted by ICE protesters.
SPEAKER_01And the reason that this church was targeted is because the pastor was also an ICE agent.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Went in there during a service, disrupted the service, got it all on camera, proudly, uh, did a a very almost forced interview with the pastor, and the pastor's like, listen, I'm concerned about the people that are in here, basically leave me alone. Right. Well, it turns out that he violated something called the Face Act.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Don Lemon did, and other people who went into that church. Uh what the FACE Act does is it basically says you can't obstruct um entry to uh medical facilities, churches, and I'm I'm I'm I'm giving a very broad definition of the FACE Act here. But uh Don Lemon and the people that he that went into that church violated that act because there is a provision in there about religious institutions. And Don Lemon was indicted, and Don Lemon was arrested. Yep. And he's since been released, of course, but uh what's what's happening now is a lot of people, a lot of uh press actually, or self-described press, are calling this a freedom of press violation, and they're saying it's a slippery slope that's gonna, you know, we can't do our jobs anymore.
SPEAKER_04Well, like I said uh before we got on the mic, Don Lemon is no longer a part of the press per se. He's not, he's an independent journalist. Uh so it makes me wonder does he have any credentials at all?
SPEAKER_01What I do know that he has is facial recognition and name recognition.
SPEAKER_04That's it.
SPEAKER_01That's that's pretty much it. Um and he but believe me, he he he tries to parlay that uh into self-aggrandizing as much as possible.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But you know, does he have a huge audience? Not really. Uh uh is he respected? Not really. Not by many. Not by many. Not by many. Um but but no matter what though, if he's he's claiming to be press and running into that church and violating the FACE Act, you broke a law. Right. You were indicted. The legal system was put into effect here, and you were arrested. Don't hide behind the Constitution now for your actions. Your freedom of the press. No, you were an asshole. Right. You're an asshole who broke the law. So, you know, he got some form of comeubence on that, but right now the groundswell of support from the left for him is sickening.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. What are the repercussions for violating the FACET Act? Pull it to the back of the head.
SPEAKER_01Line one.
SPEAKER_04What? No.
SPEAKER_01I can't see it. Do you see it? Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name.
SPEAKER_04Look at that. There you go. Wikipedia. Well teach us. Uh but uh I didn't read much up on on this uh Don Lemon case. But once again, he's part he was part of the mainstream media. He was one of them individuals telling lies, not not reporting the uh the whole truth and nothing but the truth, uh manipulating people in his in his reporting. Um I never liked a guy. And I'll tell you what, I I'll say this too. Before before Trump walked down that escalator, I used to watch CNN pretty pretty regularly. I did. And it at before that, it was uh most of it was uh reporting the news, a lot of it was. And then once Trump walked down that escalator, total flip. Total 100% flip.
SPEAKER_01Really quick, uh uh first-time violation, first-time conviction for violating the FACE Act uh is one could result in up to one year in federal prison and a hundred thousand dollars. So I think that's some reason to be concerned. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean, uh, I'd be more concerned about the hundred thousand dollars.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, about that CNN check coming in.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, you know, I could uh he'll go to prison probably if he does get convicted for two months.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, or a suspended sentence or something like that.
SPEAKER_04And he'll get uh he'll get uh released because of overpopulation.
SPEAKER_01But when it comes to government and courts and fines, money talks, and bullshit runs a marathon, they want their money.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. What else we have on Don Lemon? Uh I mean, we could say a lot. Don Lemon leaves a sour taste in my night. Yeah, he's just a piece of shit. Yeah, pretty much that's what we got there. Ice, ice, ice baby, like it's uh cold up in Minneapolis right now.
SPEAKER_01Last week when we were here. Or no, two weeks ago. Um the I don't think it had happened yet. The the the lady that grabbed the flashbang grenade and held on to it and it blew off her hand.
SPEAKER_04It did not, because we probably would have discussed that.
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SPEAKER_01All right. Here's why I bring that up, and this is another this is another thing about misinformation and AI. Um, United Kingdom newspapers continue to write articles stating that an ice agent shot her in the hand. And there it is again. Like a lot of times when when when I I I I see just a cloud of crap in the news, I'll check BBC, World Services. Here's why. BBC generally has no dog in the race, so they deliver it in a kind of a flat here's what happened way. Right. When they talk on when they touch on American politics. And and and also you'll hear stories on BBC America that you or or BBC World Services rather that you won't hear anywhere else. Right. You know, a a popular uh uprising in Kukukakistan, right, you know what I mean? Like it's places you've never heard of, and people that you don't give an airborne shit about, they'll they'll present the factual news on. So I check with them every once in a while to see what their their take on American politics is. But this isn't, I think it's the Daily Mirror, is the uh quote unquote news source on that. It's like uh they keep on they keep on reporting that ice blew this chick's hand off. No, she was an idiot. Right.
SPEAKER_04It's like that that that that's like the inquirer here. So that's what it is. Wolf boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh well as we move on to ice. You ready to move on to ice on to ice? Careful, it's slippery. Tom Holman was uh in Minneapolis. Uh I kind of look at this in in two different ways. One, it it was a good thing because they they come to some agreements. And in another way, it was a bad thing because it because it's kind of like you're saying that all right, we're gonna concede a little bit here.
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SPEAKER_04And uh, we're gonna give you some leeway as far as ice and home and giving leeway to this city. It it's uh that I don't like. Uh you're there for a reason, do your job, and uh go home at the end of the day. Uh but there was some there was some good headway, and the major thing for me was was that now the the uh the the courts are supposed to notify ICE when these these criminals, these illegal immigrants, these criminals are being released from the court system. They're supposed to notify ICE so they can be there to uh re-arrest them and uh take them into custody and do what they have to do as far as deporting them or whatever they're gonna do. Uh that was uh a major breakthrough for me. That was very, very important.
SPEAKER_01There was also talk of a certain amount of cooperation from local law enforcement, too, yeah, where they weren't getting much of any before.
SPEAKER_04No, they were getting no cooperation whatsoever. Uh, I did see a clip, not like this cop. I did see a clip though out in California where right now there's major protests going on out there. Um, and the law enforcement is they are helping out. I'm not gonna say they're helping out ICE, but they are trying to crowd control. Yeah, that I will say.
SPEAKER_01Which is which is something. Something's better than nothing.
SPEAKER_04Right. And that in my opinion, that is what the Minneapolis Police Department should have been doing all along. I think if they were doing this right from the get-go, that woman wouldn't have got killed. This this this this uh pretty wouldn't have got been killed. Uh, and you know, we talk about pretty. What the fuck? Sorry about my language, but what the fuck was he doing there with a I think it was a nine millimeter, I'm not sure, on the weapon. Six hour P320, I believe. Something. And extra magazines.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_04Why? Why are you there with that freaking gun?
SPEAKER_01I I I've seen this, and it's it's really uh I I enjoy it because I'm a big Second Amendment guy, concealed carry since the day I turned 21.
SPEAKER_04And I get it, and I understand, but in a situation like that, you're asking for trouble.
SPEAKER_01You're asking for trouble. There are very specific laws in place and rules for concealed carry. Um, first of all, to see the left on the side of uh the Second Amendment all of a sudden is hysterical. He had every right to have a gun there. Oh what? All of a sudden you're cool with guns. Okay, you're probably the first son of a bitch that that absolutely However, uh one one of the rules with concealed carry is you're not supposed to put yourself in situations that are that are dangerous like that. Okay, and and in in Minnesota, uh you the law is you always have to have your concealed carry permit on you, you always have to have ID on you, and you have to avoid situations like that. And he had neither. He had he had neither form of ID, and he was putting himself smacked out in the middle of situations like that. And come to find out, he had done this before. He had had run-ins with ice before. Right. And there's video footage of ice that's not AI. Yeah, but you know, this this guy was an asshole. Yeah, yeah. Did you see I forget what news agency it was, they put a picture of Predi up and what they had done. And this is a shitty pun on my part. They prettied up Predy. They actually changed the shape of his face, they gave him a tan, they changed that. Yes, and they they broadened his shoulders to make him look more attractive and and and more um uh uh what's the word I'm gonna fall? Is it Axios? I have no idea. I don't remember that.
SPEAKER_04I want to see it was it was I want to say it was MSNBC. It might have been, but I want to say it was Axios, but I think I'm probably wrong as usual. But this whole ICE situation, though, uh it really all of it needs to start winding down. We we need to get a grip uh on on this whole situation, not only in Minneapolis, because it's it's Philadelphia, it's in LA, it I think it's starting in Pittsburgh again. You know, New Jersey's had some New Jersey. Uh it's very disheartening. It it really is. And the sad part about it is too, all these people protesting. Who's the first person they're gonna call when something goes wrong? Please. It ain't ghostbusters, it's boys, you know, and I don't know. I don't know. It's just very, very uh discerning about this.
SPEAKER_01By the way, it was MSNBC that did that, by the way. That that digitally altered the image of Pretty to make him uh better looking and more sympathetic. Um as far as uh crowds and riots, not riots, but protests and stuff like that. People you mentioned California, you know, people will protest out there because there's not enough avocado on their sandwiches. Yeah, yeah. Uh so that's to be expected out there. The protests over enforcement of the law drives me nuts. Like basically, what you're doing is you have a you have a group of people there that are saying, don't enforce the law. And that's messed up. It is. But yeah, when something goes wrong, they'll be the first one on the phone with the comments. Or even better yet, if you have a counter-protest, let's say, and I'm gonna use a term that I can't stand because it's it's become like kind of a flash point, but let's say there's uh uh 250 protesters against ICE and there's 250 MAGA protesters.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01That's starting to happen. The first MAGA protester to throw hands, they're gonna be calling the cops on arrest this guy.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? And and listen, hey man, if if if you threw hands for no reason, you need to be arrested. Yeah, no matter what side you're on. But I just find it ironic that the the same people that they rail against are dependent upon for their own safety. And and and and it's it's it's ridiculous on its face. The laws are written as they're written, and because somebody comes along and tries to enforce them, they're Hitler.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they're Hitler. And and oh, and by the way, just really quick, I I love when this is pointed out, and I don't think it's pointed out enough. Look at the number of deportations under Obama. Yeah. Look who his yeah, go ahead. Look at the number of deportations under Obama, under Bush, by the way. Uh, and under Clinton. I believe Clinton, Bush, and Obama, and Biden even had more deportations than currently Trump has. No matter what, though, the guy that they're vilifying right now, Tom Holman, you want to know who was in charge of immigration under Obama? Tom Holman.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_01And he deported a hell of a lot more people. No riots. Obama was keeping kids in cages. No outrage. Uh, I believe there, I believe the uh there there were there were like 50-some people that died in ICE custody under Obama. No outrage.
SPEAKER_04Did Obama deport more people than Trump? What to know as Trump calls for more ICE arrests? What does that say there?
SPEAKER_01Throughout eight, oh damn. Throughout eight years of Obama administration logged more than 3.1 million ICE deportations. So under Obama, 3.1 million ICE deportations in eight years. Okay, well, what does what is does it say what Trump has there? Across four years, the Trump administration had fewer than 932,000. There you go. So four years, 932,000.
SPEAKER_04In four years.
SPEAKER_01Eight years he had 3.1 million, Obama had.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And the same guy's in charge of immigration now that was in charge under Obama, Tom Holman.
SPEAKER_04So where where are these people going with this? Why are they protesting against this?
SPEAKER_01Because Hitler's in office, don't you know?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Hitler. Yeah. Fascist. Uh Christ in the cracker.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. The world's uh it's a shithole right now.
SPEAKER_01Hell in a handbasket.
SPEAKER_04That's where it always comes down to with us. You know, that's what we're gonna have to call this podcast instead of studio 41. Hell in a handback. Hell in a handbasket. I'm sure that's taken. I'm sure it is. Uh what else we got? What else? What else we have? Oh crap, I'm out of listening. Are you? Yeah. Come on. There's nothing to talk about in the world, don't you? Let's talk about. We were gonna discuss this on the last show. Chicks be crazy, you? Yeah. No. Yeah. What it is, bitch.
SPEAKER_01Pin pand all strong.
Don Lemon, Protests, And The FACE Act
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I want to talk about a little bit about um these uh substations going up for AI. Uh the uh information centers? The information centers, uh what they're they were what they're protesting around here for. You see the signs up, no, no data center. Oh, that's what it's the data center.
SPEAKER_01What is it basically cloud like like almost like cloud storage? It can be like memory. Well, the pro that's what it is, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_04But I guess the problem, excuse me, I guess the problem that people are having is they're afraid they're gonna lose power, they're gonna lose wattage, uh, it's gonna affect the environment, uh, things of that nature. That's that that's a weak argument right there, affecting the environment. That is exactly what what what they're saying in in our area here.
SPEAKER_01That's that's what that's what got the zoning's attention, right? Is a bunch of hunters got together and said, hey, dear, bad data. You know what I mean? I thought that was the weakest argument ever. It is. It's just a reason for them to deny it. Now, is it but here's here's the thing. As AI expands, you're definitely gonna you're definitely gonna need more storage and data. It's gotta go somewhere. It's it it's almost becoming like the uh uh George Harlan used to say NIMBY. Yeah, not in my backyard. Build more prisons, not in my backyard. Um, you know, if we're gonna rely on AI, we're gonna we gotta put these kind of places somewhere. And they are necessary.
SPEAKER_04They are. Pennsylvania is experiencing a significant surge in data center development driven by AI infrastructure projects and a$20 billion Amazon investment in 2025. Major hubs include Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and the Lee Valley with over 100 facilities in operation. Key providers include Tier Point, H5 data centers, Iron Mountain, and uh Expedient.
SPEAKER_01These data centers, is it possible to find out how many people do these data centers employ per site? I mean, is is there is there an economic?
SPEAKER_04Let's see. Uh there's gonna be uh a little bit of an economic boom. Sure.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I would I would gather that they're decent paying jobs. They would have to pay at least as much as it would pay to work at an Amazon facility, right?
SPEAKER_04I would think.
SPEAKER_01I I would think it would uh unless it's so automated that it's like one dude with a broom.
SPEAKER_04Uh data center jobs employment. Uh 112,000 data center jobs available on indeed.com. Is that nationwide or is that regional? Uh I I'm gonna think that's nationwide. Alright. I'm not I'm not gonna do the division here.
SPEAKER_03It won't uh pop up.
SPEAKER_01We're hiring now.
unknownYeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01What are the what are the specifics on that? Does it does it give any uh idea how much?
SPEAKER_04It won't. AI data centers employment is rapidly growing, focusing on specialized technology roles for maintaining power and optimizing infrastructure. Key positions include hardware technicians, AI system engineers, and facility specialists.
SPEAKER_01Now, what I'm seeing here is that data centers generally employ between 20 and 100 permanent staff. Now that that is not a huge staff considering how much room these these these places take up.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_04Um and uh let's see. What do they pay? That's another that's what I'm trying to find here, and I'm not really seeing I'm just scrolling through. Uh I don't see nothing on the pay.
SPEAKER_01Data center jobs generally offer competitive salaries with entry-level technicians averaging 45 to 60,000 annually, while specialized roles and management positions exceed 100 to$2,000. It varies on location, experience, role, of course. Right. You know, the guy with the broom isn't making$100,000. But uh that is a that is a very low. The reason I wanted that information is because that that's a very low uh employment employee count for the amount of room that they take up.
SPEAKER_04Right. Well, you think it's all it's all electronics, you know, how much uh how many employees do you really need to monitor the shit? Exactly.
SPEAKER_01You know, but that's I think that's another I think that's a more intelligent argument to be made than hey deer.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? Like like okay, like we're we're we're having this facility that takes up acres and acres and acres of space. It's an eyesore, it's this, it's that, and the other thing. But at least we're gonna employ a whole bunch of people, right? Well, no, not really, not really.
SPEAKER_04We need the well, and even the people that are gonna employ a lot of them are gonna be broom pushers. Yeah, you know, how many technicians are you gonna really need? But uh yeah, I don't know. I I was uh kind of interested in that on your thoughts on that, and and I think too that uh I don't know if you read anything on this. I did a podcast on this on my own a while back, is that TMI, Three Mile Island, is going to be up and running again uh shortly, I believe next year. Uh no, by the end of this year. So that will provide a lot of power for these facilities. And uh I know a lot of people down in in that area, they're not happy about that because of what happened back in 1978-ish. 79, yeah. 78, you know, with with the meltdown that they had there. And uh and you really can't blame them.
SPEAKER_01No. Well, if if you've ever driven past Three Mile Island, like you could see it from the main artery, uh, what is it, 83 going through Harrisburg. If you look to your left going over the bridge, you can see the coin towers on Three Mile Island. We we go down there, we're right there. Exactly. There's a place that we pick up at uh in Marietta, Pennsylvania. Yeah, and uh uh when you leave that place, it's very residential. Yeah, it's a two-lane road, a lot of farmland, a lot of people live in there, and that's the entrance. Yeah, on that road is the entrance to three mileage. One way in and one way out. So you can see why these people are nervous about this being again in their backyard. Um and it's it's it's it's imposing. It is driving past that is imposing. You know, you you see you you know what happened there. Is it you know, if you live in Pennsylvania, you probably have at least some idea, some reference to TMI, uh before it meant too much information. Uh, but you drive past that place, it's there, it's a little foreboding.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um yeah. Now, here's a question for you. If if they're gonna be able to draw on that power that TMI is gonna be generating for projects like uh data centers and stuff like that. Where does the power from Susquin? Well, it's used to be called Susquin Steam down in Berwick. Where does the where does the power from that plant go to? I believe that comes up here.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I have no idea where it comes because that facility.
SPEAKER_01How do they allocate that power? You know, like is that part of the process of finding a place for these data centers? Like, is there enough uh electric infrastructure or potential for it?
SPEAKER_04I like uh we said here, a lot of that uh the data centers that are being built is going to be in the Lehigh Valley, Harrisburg, and and uh Philadelphia area. And I uh that is uh the the main areas where TMI is going to be providing power to.
SPEAKER_01Now, didn't they get shot uh didn't they get shot down in the Lehigh Valley? And that's why they started looking up here, up in this area? Because I know that there's a lot of places really not here.
SPEAKER_04I know uh up in Goldsboro where where I work out of their signs up all over the place up there, no, no data center. Uh what is going on with that yet? I don't know. Uh let's Google that. Let's see where these data centers are going.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I and I know they proposed one up this way, and we're you know, we're like 65, 70, 70 miles removed from the Lehigh Valley.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_01We're uh about 70 miles north of the Lehigh Valley.
SPEAKER_04So they're they're looking for space. Yeah, I mean I mean this is this is something that really, really needs uh needs to get pushed through. I mean, this is the future right here. It's the future of America, it's the future of the the whole planet is is uh AI.
SPEAKER_01At least until they could find a way to make the uh the the storage smaller, yeah, which is inevitable. I mean, you know, look at look at how uh how much different computers are now than they were in the 60s. They used to take up entire rooms, you know, and and we have more computing power in our cell phones now than in some of those computers that were around back then. So they may come a time when we don't need acres and acres of facilities to uh to store data.
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SPEAKER_03But until then, hunters are pissed. I don't know. Let's see, let's see uh where this is going here. Uh to the future. Right now, into the future.
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah, here we are here. Uh shockingly, uh most of the data centers are in the eastern uh area of the state.
SPEAKER_03There's a lot of things. Um you're gonna be surprised when I tell you where most of these centers are going. Most of them are in the Scranton area, Jessup, Blakely, Dixon City.
SPEAKER_04Uh looks like the one in Blakely is a no-go. That's the one they recently voted on, isn't it? I believe so, yep.
SPEAKER_01Um it's all and that it makes sense because these are all places, all the all the places that Rich is talking about are places that have a lot of land, they have a lot of areas.
SPEAKER_04A lot of uh them four I just mentioned are on the border of state game game lands or in game lands. So I could I I could see why people would be uh a little optimistic about putting them there. But when you really think about it, what kind of I mean they're gonna they are going to be big, sure. But how much room are they really gonna take up though? When you look at uh uh you know, 300 and some thousand or eighty some thousand acres of state game land. You know, uh when I'm looking at this, you're lucky well the facilities themselves are not big. Uh let me bring this up for you.
SPEAKER_03You know what? Let me see if I can bring this up in in the uh on the video, which I'm sure I can't.
SPEAKER_04I can bring this up, but uh what I cannot bring up is I I just can't play video.
SPEAKER_01The may the major uh estate game land around here is the Pincho uh the what is it, the the the Pinchot State Forest, I think it's Pinch. Pinchot. Pinchot? Yeah. Well it it's it's uh the family of Bronson Pinchot, the guy who played Balkie Bartogamus.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's that's his family. Um but that is massive.
SPEAKER_03Here's the it's just a massive, massive State Game Land. I I think it's being recorded, so let me zoom in. I think I can zoom in here. Let's put it up here too so you can see it. Sure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah, there it is there. Let me see if I can zoom in. I can. Look at that. Oh yeah. Look at that. That is where most of the data centers are, over here. Yeah. Eastern side of the state.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so how many but here's another question? Well, TMI is Harrisburg area, central. Right.
SPEAKER_04Is down. I can't see my cursor, man. Am I close?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That green, that big green.
SPEAKER_04Right around here is uh Harrisburg. So that that is where TMI is going to send its power. Send its power to over here and over here. So I think that's pretty interesting that most of these data centers are up in the northeast section of the state.
SPEAKER_01All those green locations that are on the on the map right now, are those data centers existing? Yes. No. Oh they're ones that are being proposed.
SPEAKER_04The ones in red are the ones that are existing up and running? No. All right.
SPEAKER_01Got denied. I'm gonna stop speculating.
SPEAKER_04They're the ones that got denied.
SPEAKER_01See, and here's why I was asking that though. Like I ex data centers that are existing and up and running. Where's Jimmy? Who's who's is is there anybody pissing and moaning about them? Are they are they causing a disruption?
SPEAKER_04Are they causing a disruption by being there? Uh that's the question. You know, are they going to be loud? You know, how loud are they going to be?
SPEAKER_01I I I have no idea what they would be doing to be loud. Unless they have onslaught generators or something like that. Yeah, I I don't know. Usually electronics is a pretty quiet, you know, quiet thing. And the cooling systems to keep uh to keep all the servers uh from overheating. I could see that making some noise, but look where they're placing these things. It's in the middle of nowhere. You know who is gonna be affected by you off, Jimmy. I know. Um no like the only people being disturbed by these things are the deer.
SPEAKER_04The deer. You know, I I you know I I understand from uh uh a hunter's point of view, of course, you know, not only do you have to stay off of that property, now you you you have to you have to be at least a hundred yards away from from that property line. So nobody catches a straight bullet, right?
SPEAKER_03So eh.
SPEAKER_04You know, like I said, this is the future and this is something that we really have to look into. And uh I think we really do need we need these centers. We do.
SPEAKER_01Uh if you like fast internet, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. I mean, we would be able to do this podcast without them. That's a good point. Yeah. What else you got? Anything? We're rocking at an hour and a half here. One hour and a half.
SPEAKER_01Well, the only the other thing that's been bothering me is the fact that my 15-year-old cat has become less mean and more affectionate, and I'm pretty sure that means it's going to die soon.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I was gonna say 15-year-old, uh, 15 years old for a cat is pretty pretty elder.
SPEAKER_01And you know, it's not like we're friends or anything. We it's more of a roommate agreement.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. You know, these freaking dogs I have last night. We sat down on the couch last night, me and my son. And I have to give him kudos, man. I wanted cheesesteaks for dinner yesterday. We all did. And I wanted to- We wanted to make I wanted to make them my way. I got real steak and this and that. And the boys like, no, this is we're not using that, we're using this. So I had to go back down to store and buy minute steaks. Really? Yeah. That was the preference? That's what he wanted to shape. And that's what my wife wanted. Wow. But he made 'em. He cut up the onions, the peppers, uh, he put everything in a pot with the meat, and it it was like uh everything was ground up together. Yeah. You know, and you had to use a spoon to put it in the on the bun. See, no, I like that. I think the cheese needs to be mixed through. Has to be Jesus Christ, were they good? Yeah, they were phenomenal. They were phenomenal.
SPEAKER_01Now, when I want to make cheesesteaks, you know what I do? I make a phone call.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Killy's finest? Damn right.
SPEAKER_04They're good. They are good. It's half as tall, half as tall as I. We were gonna watch UFC, and this is this might be a little lengthy because I got a little perturbed with my son, but it wasn't his fault. So we sat down on the couch, we have three dogs emerge on one section of the couch, and it was just it was horrible trying to get comfortable.
SPEAKER_01But your dogs aren't chihuahuas, either. You guys are big-ass dogs.
SPEAKER_04The smallest one is 80 pounds, the other two are 130, 150 pounds. But we're sitting there, we're watching UFC preliminaries, and the prel preliminaries were over, and you get this thing on the screen. UFC, I think it was 325 or whatever, will begin shortly.
SPEAKER_01Like a countdown screen.
SPEAKER_04So we're sitting there waiting and waiting and waiting 15-20 minutes. What the freak? You know, this is gonna go or what? I said to my son, I said, What's going on here? You know, I was dozing off. And he says, Oh, oh, I gotta switch it over. Son of a bitch. How much did you miss? We put it on, it got on, and the guy is standing on the ring with his arms up like this. In victory. In victory. We we we missed the first match, and I got a little bit into the second match, and it was all over with the cry, and I fell asleep. Ended up coming up to bed about midnight. So was not thrilled about that.
SPEAKER_01So while you were watching that, I know we did.
SPEAKER_04I think I know we did last.
SPEAKER_01No, no. While you were watching that. I was in my house. Oh, okay. Watching uh uh Beavis and Butthead. Oh, nice. Mike Judge, the guy who lasts from the past. Well, no, Mike Judge, the guy who who who came up with Beavis and Butthead, made uh two seasons of new episodes for Paramount Plus. That's what uh UFC was on. And uh uh the I just sounded like Butthead. Um, but the the new episodes are actually really funny because some of them are are Beavis and Butthead in middle age. Oh yeah? Yeah, and they've done nothing with their lives, of course. So like you're it the juxtaposition is funny though, because you're there with your family and your dogs and homemade cheesesteaks, watching a sporting event, and I'm I'm at home eating a tasty cake and watching Beavis and Buddha.
SPEAKER_04The tasty cake.
SPEAKER_03Look at me.
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_01Everything healthy for dinner. What I wanted to make was macaroni and cheese and cut up hot dogs in it. Oh, it's good. Fantastic.
SPEAKER_04That's good stuff. It is comfort food. You know, I eat this stuff. I I make hot dogs and pork and beans with hot dog soup. I make hot dogs with mac and cheese. I put hot dogs on waffles. Uh I love hot dogs. Frickin' love hot dogs. Yeah, goulash. I love goulash, uh, all that stuff. And uh my wife and kid make fun of me because I eat this stuff. It's good. Do you like it?
SPEAKER_01It's awesome.
SPEAKER_04It's awesome. They won't eat it. They won't eat it.
SPEAKER_01I'm with you on the hot dog fan. I'm a chili dog fan.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I love me a good chili dog. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01About three weeks ago, I went and I got chili dogs from a place I won't I will not name.
SPEAKER_04And I I have where you live, I know where you're going, probably.
SPEAKER_01I had the worst food poisoning I have ever had in my life. Was it?
SPEAKER_04This is a place we go with an effer day. Hey. Yeah. Really? Oh man.
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SPEAKER_01It was just like this this is going to ruin this for me. You know what I mean? Never mind. Never mind the 72 hours of suffering. Yeah. I was just like, well, shit, the next time I want chili dogs, I'm going to remember this experience. But suffering is temporary, but the memory remains. Right, right. Oh, that sucks.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, making chili today. I'm gonna make some chili. Nice. You should put a hot dog in it. I might. I might make some hot dogs and put the chili on the dogs. You know, I don't know. You do chili with beans or no? Yes.
SPEAKER_01You see it?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. True Texas chili has no beans. Oh, see, but I love the beans. Two big cans I put in there with two pounds of meat, tomatoes, and tomato sauce, tomato paste, peppers, onions.
SPEAKER_01With the with the heavy topics though, like socialism and and and the press and and the deterioration of our uh uh uh uh representative republic. Now you got me really, really thinking about cheesesteaks and chili dogs.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, just the important thing. Yeah, just think we wouldn't be able to have this stuff if we become a socialist or a communist country. We wouldn't have cows, we wouldn't have the infrastructure to slaughter cows. You never see a communist with a cheesesteak. That's right. God damn it. Hey, that's all we got. We're done. We're out of here before we get out of control for Jim and Rich. We'll see you on the next one. Have a good day and have a nice afternoon, evening week. We'll see you on the next one.
