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RICH KAPALKA ,JIM YELLAND Season 2 Episode 6

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Two U.S. hockey wins light the fuse, but the real spark comes from a late-night breach at Mar-a-Lago and the bigger question it raises: are we still capable of honest, grown-up conversations about patriotism, security, and public figures we admire? We open with national pride and the Olympic highs, then pivot straight into the breaking story—how a 21-year-old with a shotgun and gas can reached the perimeter and what that says about readiness, gate protocols, and the danger of soft assumptions. We wrestle with the DEI debate, separating training and task fit from political talking points, and keep our focus on what matters: prevention, procedure, and accountability without lazy speculation.

From there, we take on the third rail—how to discuss civil rights icons and conservative villains with the same standard. We pull out receipts on Jesse Jackson, Martin Luther King Jr., and Al Sharpton—accomplishments and controversies—then hold that mirror to Donald Trump’s record, including long-term HBCU funding. The point is simple: calling out the bad doesn’t cancel the good, and criticism isn’t racism. It’s citizenship. That same clarity runs through a gritty middle section on protests versus riots, the math behind retail closures, and why “mostly peaceful” coverage collapses under the weight of broken glass and shuttered pharmacies.

Real life keeps it honest. As career truckers, we talk rail yards, cameras that catch everything, and how a respectful traffic stop goes right—hands visible, answers ready, and less drama. We also push for English proficiency in commercial trucking, not as a culture war, but as a safety mandate: digital highway advisories, hazmat bills, and split-second decisions don’t translate well at 70 mph. The city lens lands on New York: ballooning budgets, snow that lingers, open drug use, and a tourism picture that dims. Competence matters. So do clear rules everyone can follow.

We cool down with concerts: when nostalgia tours disappoint at premium prices, tribute bands often deliver the songs you love, note-for-note, in intimate rooms that don’t break the bank. Results over branding—whether it’s a protection detail, a city hall, or a rock show—becomes the throughline. If you crave conversation that can hold pride and critique in the same hand, pull up a chair.

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Opening Banter And Personal Updates

SPEAKER_01

All right, here we are. Another day, another doll, another show here on Studio 411. We got Big Jim, and uh we're welcoming back. Well, we can't call you the cowpoke no more. Nope, nope, no more cows. Just uh the groom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can go with that. Yeah, we'll go with that. Congratulations are in order. Thank you. Thank you. Who's uh who's the who's the lucky girl? Uh Lisa. Lisa. Yeah. Does she know what she's in for?

SPEAKER_03

Um, no, because I've, you know, you gotta keep a lot of shit secret, you know? Yeah, because you're so good at that.

SPEAKER_04

You're good at being subtle.

SPEAKER_01

All right. We Jim, what's up? Anything good with you? Anything new, Jim?

Olympic Pride And Patriotism

SPEAKER_04

On on the personal front, uh, I returned to work on Tuesday finally, after being off for four months of an injury. Good, good. And uh, you know, I'm I'm excited about that. So is my bank account. And uh my credit cards, they're very tired of being taken advantage of. Yeah. Those bad boys. I could uh imagine that one. We've uh we've actually got some breaking news. I'm gonna start with the good news. Uh, the United States men's hockey team has become victorious. Uh they they have won over Canada two to one.

SPEAKER_01

And the now we gotta say that the women won also. Yes. Yeah. Uh you know, I was I was gonna start the show off as being uh I talked about it with you over the week, Jim, about being a patriot and what patriotic means, what being a patriot means. I'm not gonna do that today. But uh if you don't feel patriotic today, after them two wins, you got something wrong with you if you're an American, I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_04

I'm I'm behind you on that one. The Olympics is is is a set of games that's that's about your national pride and and about your patriotism. Nothing wrong with it uh at all. To be patriotic, and it's it's been it's been painted as uh an evil thing by some.

SPEAKER_01

It has been. Yeah. And what is patriotism?

SPEAKER_03

There was that uh female figure skater, I don't know. That was really no she did not one that was slamming oh she got yeah and she fell on her face, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, in several ways. The the the American figure skater that did win the gold, first time in 40 years, I want to say. Don't quote me on that number. It's been a long time. Uh her parents are from China, and they were targeted during the last Olympics, I believe. Wow. And this one. And uh she came back and kicked some ass and she won the gold. That girl.

Breaking News: Mar-a-Lago Intrusion

SPEAKER_04

Well, that's the that's the good breaking news. Uh the bad breaking news is that a young white 21-year-old with a head full of mush uh somehow got into the perimeter of Marilago with a shotgun and a gas can. He was confronted by Secret Service agents at approximately 1 30 a.m. and shot dead. Um Secret Service, by the way, on point, on guard, and they're not even funded right now, courtesy of the Democrats.

SPEAKER_01

Here's my question. Mar-Lago, president of the United States, owns that property. Secret Service should be very, very uh overwhelmingly securing that place. So, my question is, how did he get in there?

SPEAKER_03

Well, from what I heard earlier on the news, is it's secured all the way around except for on the beach side. It's wide open.

SPEAKER_04

Uh he did not approach from the beach, though. The speculation right now, and they have yet to check the cameras or release the footage. I don't know where they're at in the investigation, of course, but uh the speculation is that he got in piggybacking through the gate of somebody who was coming in legally. Okay. So he he rushed the gate basically on the bumper of another vehicle, is the speculation. Oh, he was driving. Yeah, and uh uh also the president is not at Marilago right now.

SPEAKER_03

No, he had that governor's meeting or whatever they called it.

SPEAKER_04

He was having all the governors at uh the White House yesterday. Exactly. So security might have been in a more relaxed state, which did no no excuse for it, but it's not an excuse for it.

SPEAKER_01

It's not. Here we go here. Our man shot and killed after unauthorized entry into Mar-Lago Secret Service. Uh, I don't think we're gonna get much on that being it's so early in. The guy's name was Austin Tucker Martin.

SPEAKER_04

Austin? Austin Tucker Martin. It's the whitest name I've ever heard my.

SPEAKER_01

I wonder if he's a descendant of Preston Tucker.

SPEAKER_04

I I have no idea. Who uh if so, he had a very fancy ride to get down there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. That that's the guy who uh uh developed the the car, right?

SPEAKER_04

The Tucker automobile, yep. Correct. Uh he was uh from North Carolina and his family declared him, they reported him rather missing uh two to three days ago. So apparently he kind of meandered his way down to Florida. Uh they're saying that he picked up a shotgun along the way.

SPEAKER_01

Yep, right here. The individual was observed near the North Gate carrying what appeared to be a shotgun. Agents and deputies from Palm Beach County, sheriff's office, confronted the man who pronounced who was pronounced dead at the scene.

SPEAKER_04

All right, I got a different story that he was. That's all I got. Yeah, uh the story that they were reporting on the TV and in print, the site that I checked out was that he uh was shot by two Secret Service agents. That's what I heard also on on that's what that's what caused me to bring up the fact that the Secret Service is uh currently unfunded uh due to a a partial government shutdown. The Democrats are withholding funding, uh not specifically to Secret Service, but to that like uh like homeland security and stuff like that uh over ICE. They they want him to call the dogs off. They want Trump to call the dogs off, and they're holding up funding for that reason.

SPEAKER_03

And ICE is funded for the next two or three years?

SPEAKER_01

No, no, forty some years. Oh, 40 something. They're funded for a long time.

SPEAKER_04

And that's that's why that's why the Democrats figure that that they could they could apply pressure in other areas to try to get capitulations on policy.

SPEAKER_01

Because they're part of Homeland Security. ICE and Homeland Security has funding that I know it's for a long time. ICE, that's cool.

SPEAKER_04

What is that? Thank you for joining us. That is uh that is the the Fox News feed that uh you're hearing.

SPEAKER_01

It popped up on here. Oh, gotcha. All right. I'll pause it, whatever. I don't want to hear that. Now, with this being said, do you think that any of this has to do with uh DEI as far as uh Secret Service being underfunded, the hiring process, any anything like that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

A Secret Service came under fire when Trump was shot at for for their response and for who they had guarding him. Like like the Secret Service's job is basically to jump in front of uh of the president and uh the at least on a presidential detail. It's their job to jump in front. It's their job to get ahead of anything. Yeah, and they had one of the Secret Service agents was like a five foot two. Trump's what six four? He's tall. Yeah, and and like the the the agent that got in front of him like could not protect his vital bits, his head, his his chest, you know what I mean? Well, that was that woman.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that was the woman, right?

SPEAKER_04

Not saying that's the you know, well that that's where that's where the DEI higher uh uh criticism in in that specific incident came from. It's like, okay, why don't you have a six foot two, six foot three male agent jumping in front of the president? That's their job, that's their entire uh raison d'etre is to to to to block any threat to the president.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's that's why I wanted to know, you know, I I I would say uh in in just my opinion, you you're not gonna cut uh all these these DEI hires out of out of the scenario really quick or out of uh the hiring process with Trump. You know, it takes time to do all of that. So I'm you know, it makes you w wonder if that was a reason, you know, if it was a factor. Which I'm sure it was at some point. I'm sure it was. Yeah? I think so.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I I'm I'm assuming we'll know more when we we see not only which agents uh put this man down, if it was Secret Service agents. That's what I just read. It was Secret Service and I heard also. I would also like to know what perimeter security looks like around there. Is it is it a mix of local law enforcement and uh uh secret service? Because if that's the case, then you kind of have to look at what the local law enforcement did or did not do. There like there's gonna be a huge investigation about this. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely. Oh you oh absolutely. But this is probably you would consider this a threat to uh even though he wasn't there to the president's life. Yeah. Right? You could you could spin it heavily like it was another attempt. And you have to look at the the the this is he was walking in there, he went in there with the uh can of gasoline and a shotgun, and what was the scenario that happened to our governor not long ago? Yeah, burned him out. Burned him out. So it makes makes you think, makes you wonder, were they a part of a certain organization? Right? Same same MO. That's what I would think.

SPEAKER_04

Now, for those of you who might not know, uh there was a person who uh set fire to the gubernatorial mansion while Governor Shapiro and his family were home. Did you see a picture of that guy? Yeah, a little bit hopeful.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Wow. I I would say though, like not to put down Noxin, but I think that's where he was from.

SPEAKER_04

The argument could be made that there's certain in there there's a certain mental instability to anybody who would do uh to do an act like that, but he wore it on his sleeve. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

What do we got? USS armed man shot and killed at Mar-Lago. I see a shotgun and a gas can. Yeah, I just saw the pictures on on the uh Fox News site.

SPEAKER_03

As you were asking uh a minute or so ago, there was a chief of police at the microphone. There was? Yes. Okay, we so there it might be a mixed Secret Service local police.

SPEAKER_01

Right. We'll we'll keep an eye on that as uh things progress. We have it up on the TV there.

SPEAKER_04

And as the investigation progresses, you know, I I want to know who dropped the ball.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

Security, DEI, And Secret Service Questions

SPEAKER_03

If and how uh this is just a stupid question. How does somebody pick up a shotgun along the way between North Carolina and Mar Lako? I could buy a shotgun in ten minutes.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Ten minutes.

SPEAKER_03

Can you buy one out of state though?

SPEAKER_04

No, but that doesn't necessarily mean it didn't stop and get one in North Carolina.

SPEAKER_01

All you gotta do is go to the hood and say, yo, I need a gun. Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_03

They actually found the box for the brand new shotgun in the vehicle that the guy was driving. They did, yeah. So he might have bought it in North Carolina. Yeah. And how hard are whatever town police there in North Carolina? He's a 21-year-old guy. He doesn't have to stay at his mom's house. Right. He can go wherever he wants.

SPEAKER_04

That's that's something else I want to know. I'd like to know the details of uh when when the parents reported him missing, why did they do so? Did they do so because they lost contact? Did they do so because he had a mental health crisis or something like that, and they they were trying to get ahead of it? And there's a lot, there's a lot to to get through here.

SPEAKER_03

I just wonder, is this a guy that sits in his basement all day listening to the democratic uh rhetoric? Rhetoric, you know, filling his mind with mush. And I just wonder, is he one of those guys that's putting the comments on Facebook? You know, he's sitting down there in his dirty underwear and never leaves the house. Is he trans?

SPEAKER_04

Look at all the shooters that have involved trans. Yeah, there's a lot of questions here to see if he fits a certain profile. There's a bunch.

SPEAKER_03

I just saw uh uh an interesting thing. Um, more trans women have shot people this year than ice has.

SPEAKER_01

That were transitioning from a male to female. Male to female. Oh, I think that's a good one.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because you know what I get I get confused sometime about the the vernacular as well, or the the titling as well. Like a trans woman, which way is that going? So I I I like the fact that you clarified a man transitioning to a woman.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. There's uh there's a lot here to uh unwrap the unwrap and uh keep an eye on. I don't want to get into it too much because it's it's breaking, it's too fresh. I don't want to make no speculations, I don't want to assume anything. Um we'll we'll keep an eye on it as uh time goes on here while we're we're broadcasting here. Um but uh you know welcome to the show. We have uh Mr. Tim Edwards back with us. He's uh usually a permanent fixture on the show. He hasn't been around for a while, he's been busy uh courting his girl.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, yeah, that and uh that and now now I have a wedding to pay for, you know. So yeah, I spent quite a bit of time at work.

SPEAKER_04

How's the new gig?

SPEAKER_03

The new gig is um more physical than I'm used to, we'll say.

SPEAKER_04

Uh you have to fight a lot with the with the handles and everything.

SPEAKER_03

With the landing gear, you're fighting to make sure all the pins are locked on all four corners of the container. Um and the rail yard there in Taylor, nowhere to lie, the mud is that that coal and scale type soup. It's it's like walking around in like this grayish black gritty pudding that's six to eight inches deep. And you like I go home and just the mud falling off my pants is screwing up the kitchen. So I'm pretty much stripping in front of the washing machine and just throwing this stuff right in the washer every night.

SPEAKER_04

First of all, six to eight inches of pudding sounds delicious.

SPEAKER_01

Now I have a question here for you that wait until summer it's a dust pole. That's pretty relevant as to the events that happened about 20 minutes ago, half hour ago. Do you have to follow direction from a superior that often? Me? Yeah. No. Okay. Okay, I can't. Why? Because when you ring my doorbell, I I I yell through the microphone. Don't let the dogs out. Don't let the dogs out, pull the gate across. Next thing I see through my ring camera is Timmy getting bowled over by three Labradors. And uh I felt like a bowling pin. Yeah, and our my dogs got out, and we had to go. We got them once, and they usually come right in the house when you let them out of the truck, but they said, nah, fuck you. I'm not going in. And uh we were back out on the road.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and and and we let him out of the truck, and the first thing Rich says is, um, yeah, bear's not gonna go anywhere, his leg hurts.

SPEAKER_04

Boom!

SPEAKER_01

He was gone. He was gone. That was it.

SPEAKER_04

For his next impression, Jesse Owens.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome back, Tim.

SPEAKER_04

Welcome back. By the way, Rich, what Rich is gonna do, he's gonna take that ring camera footage of Tim getting bowled over. He's gonna put it in fast motion, and he's gonna put the Benny Hill music behind it.

SPEAKER_03

Here's a decision I had to make. I'm gonna doubt a little bit. Do I keep the dogs in the house or do I save my fresh cup of Duncan and I still have the Duncan? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

If it was Wawa, I would say it's a definitive choice, but um yeah, that um is it a golden retriever, the one with the longer hair?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's a golden. Oh my head in a lab.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, he's he's the instigator.

SPEAKER_01

He's the youngest one. He's the youngest one. He's a he's uh he's a thief, is what he is. You give him treats and you go to give it to one, and bam, gone. He he steals it. But yeah, they're they're bastards. Yeah, but welcome back, Tim. Hopefully you uh stick around and keep coming back because we enjoy having you here. Um me and uh Jim, we've been we took a little break for a little while. Yeah, and uh this is what our third show now? Second, second show.

SPEAKER_04

Second, because we got one things kept keep life keeps on happening. In the snow last time we didn't get out. Moving the studio, you had to move the studio upstairs to the top.

SPEAKER_03

Jeez, what, you didn't have it on that Sunday when it was like 40 below zero? No, we did. Yeah, we did.

SPEAKER_01

We did, yeah, we did, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I was I was still you know the limpinist talker in the west.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but the following week we had that freaking massive snowstorm. We're getting another one today. Allegedly. We'll see. We'll see.

SPEAKER_03

But uh oh yeah, down down around Mount Pocono or like Strathcastle East. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

They're screwed.

SPEAKER_03

They're calling for uh over a foot of snow and up to 50 mile an hour winds.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they're frozen fucked. They wanted me to go to Mass. I go to Massachusetts every day, uh about 10, 15 miles south of Boston. They're expecting 60 to 100 mile per hour winds with anywhere from 14 to 18 inches of snow.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's crazy. As long as you got 20,000 pounds in the box, you'll be fine.

Profiling, Mental Health, And Media Narratives

SPEAKER_03

And uh, I know this is hard to believe, but uh I was allowed on the uh old Costco property there. Oh yeah. Yeah, I was looking for you. I was looking for you too when I when I came back. I'm the guy with the white freightliner and the really ugly trailers. Were you in the back? Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we don't go in the back.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I saw a bobtail going around the corner just as I was coming in.

SPEAKER_04

He's probably going to the supply trailer, yeah. Let's be honest, the white freightliner really doesn't narrow anything in the back.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's um um I was told a couple lies when I first started. The most important is um the owner of my company is ex-police and ex-truck driver. So I I try hard not to upset her because she probably still knows her police moves and can hurt me. Um but she told me your truck's governed at 72. If I catch you speeding, I'll knock it down to 62. I was like, oh. So going up to Conklin, you know, on the level, foot all the way in, and I just happened to look down. Oh my god, 78.

SPEAKER_01

Just so everybody knows, if you don't know already, we are all truck drivers. And as we sit here and talk about our truck driving experiences, uh, you want to start off with the English speaking. What do you want to start off with, Jim?

SPEAKER_04

Oh I want to start off with with an with an encounter that I've had uh with a friend, somebody I've known since I was 18 years old. Okay, so it's neither one of us.

SPEAKER_03

We're safe.

SPEAKER_04

We're good on Facebook. It's a it's it's a lady that I've known. She's extremely intelligent, uh, but she's also very left, and that's fine. Uh like you know, I have friends of all stripes, but I uh I I made a post on Facebook recently, Jesse Jackson, the Reverend Jesse Jackson passed. I saw that post. And I I I pointed out uh in my inimitable fashion his his racial divisiveness, his anti-Semitism. And uh and then I said rest in piss. Now this sentiment I'm gonna give you a minute here and just bask in the laughter.

SPEAKER_01

Now I want to reiterate, we are not racist or prejudiced in any way, shape, or form. We are not. We're not. But there's there's things we're gonna bring up that you might think that we are.

SPEAKER_03

I think the old reverend had it coming.

SPEAKER_04

He did. He did and and actually this is exactly what I want to segue into. Uh you know, it is impossi it it it is it is possible to separate the good that people do from their flaws, missteps, and and and and shittiness. And this is what happened. My friend uh responded to that.

SPEAKER_01

Hold on, line, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Host Re-Intro And Dog Chaos Story

SPEAKER_04

I had to. Uh you gotta kill that reverb, it makes me feel like I'm on stage. That's off. But uh alright, so the my friend's response to this was it sounds like you're talking about Charlie Kirk. Okay. Wow. I take umbrage to that. She was alluding to uh uh Charlie Kirk being racist, and I I was like, okay, well you're gonna you're gonna need receipts. You can't just throw out that blanket statement. And her response to that was that Charlie Kirk uh made one of his quotes, and you get the 15-second quotes and blurbs that that that can be spun in any way to make anybody look bad. That's anything. And one of the things that she brought up, she brought up two things, as a matter of fact, and I went to town on him, and this is what this is where I'm going with this. Uh she said, Charlie Kirk said, quote, when I get on an airplane now and I see a black pilot, I have to wonder if he's qualified. Now she said, How could that not be racist? And my response was he was talking in terms of DEI hiring practices. And that's that that was like a uh an outlier comment on the greater subject. There was no context involved in it involved in that, and context would explain the comment. She also said that he had attacked Martin Luther King Jr. And that makes him racist. Now listen, I think it's possible, again, to separate the good that people do from the bad that people are. And so I compiled a list of things about people who have been three three civil rights leaders, including Reverend Jackson, the late Reverend Jackson, okay, uh, who have been canonized and lionized to a point where if you say anything ill about them, you are immediately construed as being a racist. And in defense of these people, their supporters and acolytes will scream that you're a racist if you attack them. For example, Martin Luther King, the third rail. You can't say anything bad about Martin Luther the King, but the truth of the matter was he had communist ties, and I'm not talking about he knew people, I'm talking about people that were in his camp, people who helped ghostwrite some of his speeches, including the I Have a Dream speech. Yep. He was a reverend who used the mantle and piety and and respect that that that title brings to bear.

SPEAKER_01

Uh now what what caused what what what classified him as a reverend? Did he go to He was a preacher, I guess.

SPEAKER_04

I I well his church was Ebenezer Baptist, I believe. Something like yeah, something like that. But here's the thing, in his own writings, in his own writings and interviews, he he he said things that are blatantly anti-Christian. He he called uh uh he called into question Jesus Christ's divinity, he called into question the virgin birth. And uh, you know, the the title of Reverend appeals to a broader American audience and helps to get the message out, and the message that he put out was largely a good one. But again, there are personal flaws in in who he was. Uh he was accused of plagiarism, that there's blatant plagiarism in in some of his writings. Uh he was he was had there's tape, the FBI has tapes of him womanizing and consorting with prostitutes. He was a heavy drinker.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, you know, he what church was that again? Because, you know, I'd show up every Sunday. That was fun.

SPEAKER_04

Who doesn't like violence? But then again, you're not trying to lead a quote unquote nonviolent movement. You know what I mean? And and and uh he was also quoted as saying, speaking of non-violence, one of one of his sayings is that, quote, a riot is the language of the unheard. So that's MLK. Jesse Jackson, the Reverend Jackson, the late Reverend Jackson. Uh blatant anti-Semitism, going all the way back to the 1980s. Uh uh he's strongly affiliated with Lewis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam, known for virulent anti-Semitism. Uh infidelity, he had an affair with one of his staffers and a child with that staff member. And again, this is a gentleman who put on the cloak and the mantle of Reverend for the automatic respectability that that brings to bear. And uh, you know, last but not least, uh with him, and this is this is more recent, he was caught on a live mic on CNN uh using the N-word or yeah, uh to saying that Obama talked down and uh was telling N-words how to behave, and uh also was saying that he wants to cut his nuts out pertaining to Obama. Peaceful, right? That's so there's there's the second one and the third one. I'm gonna cut through this all all quick while I'm on a rant here. The Reverend Al Sharpton.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, this guy here. He's probably the worst.

SPEAKER_04

He's the worst of the ones that I'm talking about. But I again I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna tie this up in a way that doesn't hopefully make it seem like I'm just mudslinging on these guys. Al Sharpton, though, everybody rem everybody here of our age group remembers Tawana Brawley. Yeah. Where he uh a 15-year-old girl, 15-year-old black girl, said that she was repeatedly over the course of hours raped and beaten by uh white people, including two cops. Um it it caused a tremendous amount of of problems for especially for the police officers involved who had to pay for their uh uh their defense. They were ruined. Uh and and he never apologized when it came out that it was a hoax. A hoax. Yeah. Uh he he's another on blatant anti-Semitism. Uh he's had a history of unpaid taxes. Uh he has an intolerance of other religions referring to and and uh and gays. Uh the one his his famous Greek homo quote. Those Greek homos. Uh last last up I have on my list here is recently, because you would think that okay, he left all that behind in the 1980s and moved on from it. Not so much. Uh during Kamala Harris's run for president. Uh she, I don't know if it was her personally or her backers or her election campaign, donated$500,000 to Al Sharpton's National Action Network. And then all of a sudden, he interviewed her on his radio program. Right. So it seemed like a it was a very shady pay-to-play type of thing. Now, I listed these three men, I listed their problems. This is all problematic, these are all facts, but you cannot say these things aloud without being called a racist. No. And I'm here to say you could say anything you want about Donald Trump. The left can say anything they want about Donald Trump. And they might even be right. But he also did good. Same thing with these flawed men. Their message, what they did, some of the things that they did were they're they're great for race relations and for for showing that that you know bringing black people up.

Trucking Life: Mud, Yards, And Cameras

SPEAKER_01

They did good. They did a lot of good. But you can't ignore the bad. You can't. And pointing out the bad does not make anyone racist. No. And that's the problem we have right now. Uh when when people look at Donald Trump, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, whoever, and they are pro that person, they're only going to mention the good. They can do no wrong. Right. They're not going to bring up the bad. And and that is a big problem. And the reason I say it's a problem, well, you're voting for somebody or what have you, just on the good. But if you bring up the bad, that might change your mind a little bit. It might persuade you in another direction. And I think that is one of the major problems that we have here today in our political or political system.

SPEAKER_03

One thing I don't understand about that, Al Sharpton, is if you or I owed the IRS the money that that gentleman does, we would no longer have a house, we'd no longer have anything. Right, right. But yeah, he can.

SPEAKER_04

Why is that? I would argue that his status and his Sharpton is is kind of an odd animal because he he he very loudly will scream race immediately. He he does it all. And I guarantee you if they went after him as forcefully as Tim is describing that any one of us would be gone after, he would scream that it's racial. Right. Also, he has the the national the national action network that he set up, his his organization, you know, and any kind of organization like that has uh has tax codes that you can you can jump behind and and uh it's like a built-in tax shelter as well. Right.

SPEAKER_01

So he's been pretty quiet lately. Haven't heard too much from him. Uh I I I can't say much about the man because I he's been quiet. He's been pretty much I haven't seen him at all. But you I would bet your ass, bet your ass when we get closer to to the elections, you'll hear a lot from him.

SPEAKER_04

Or if you see any kind of a um uh like racial uh um screw it, it is what it is, rioting. Like what happened in in what 2020? Yeah. Uh um the cities being burned down and things like that. That is when you see him coming out and make and also I think he has a radio program or a podcast that's very successful. So he has a platform, he has a platform bigger than anything he's ever had in his history. And I don't want to get off on a rant about Al Sharpton here, but you know, he he I would say of all of the three people that I mentioned, he's the one that benefited monetarily the most from racial division. Um, but you know, that being said, again, he did do some good.

SPEAKER_01

I I think that Jesse Jackson he he when he first he uh when when I do a true crime podcast off and on, and I I I I read a lot up a lot on serial killers. And the one I was one person I was reading I was reading up on was Jeffrey Dahmer. And Jeffrey Dahmer, we all know who he is, he killed, I don't know, what's documented was 23 people. But anyway, uh had a nibble out of some of them too. Yeah, yeah, he cannibalized them, whatever. He did all kinds of weird shit. But that is when uh Jesse Jackson really uh started to uh what's the word I'm looking for, uh uh establish himself because the building that Jeffrey Dahmer lived in was predominantly a black community in Milwaukee. And when this woman kept calling and making all these complaints, this is back in 19 late 70s, early 80s, I believe. I don't remember the dates, but that is when uh you know there were still a lot of uh whites only. I wouldn't say a lot, but it there was or blacks only no blacks, whites only, uh there's a lot of there's still a lot of racial tension. And when this woman would call the police, the most of the cops in Milwaukee at that at that time were white. So when she called to complain about a stench or she heard something odd, they really wouldn't respond. And when they did respond, they pretty much blew it off. And finally they they they responded, and that is when they apprehended Jeffrey Dahmer. But my point being is that that is when uh uh Jesse Jackson really came about and he started establishing himself because that is when he's really started standing up for the black people and and uh started advocating for them. And uh and uh what good I mean what good did he do for other people other other than the black community?

SPEAKER_04

Well, uh if you remember during the middle um uh the Iraq, the buildup to the Iraq war, the first one, um Saddam Hussein was uh uh he had taken hostages and was holding American hostages. Jesse Jackson went over there and negotiated their release. Right. Okay. I mean, because again, what I'm trying to do is I'm trying I'm trying to say that he did do some good. He did. They all did. I mean But you you you you you can't be castigated as a racist just by saying the bad that they did. Right, right.

SPEAKER_01

It just uh I I just want to make it clear. This is this isn't about race, to be honest with it. It's not, it's about knowing facts and knowing the truth about everybody, really. Not just Jesse Jackson, L. Sharpton. It's about the whole scheme of things.

SPEAKER_04

Right. And I just I pick these three because they're the three most famous prominent, right, most prominent people. And they're also the three that whenever they face any kind of criticism and whenever you bring up facts about them, you're immediately painted as a racist because they're so strongly affiliated with with the race, uh, the race movement. Right. Or racial equality. And I'm I'm saying that you could do one, but you have to address the other. And you should be able to address the other, you should be able to talk about them the way that people talk about Trump. Listen, Trump managed to get uh uh black colleges funded in perpetuity. Okay, you know, racist Trump managed to get black colleges funded in perpetuity. This is something that the NAACP, double ACP, and other uh uh uh uh black organizations had been after administrations to do for a very long time. Trump got it done. So here it is again. People freely say anything they want, including calling him a pedophile without any kind of evidence to back that up. They could say whatever they want about the man, and I would say that most you know, you can say that he's crude, you can say this, you can say that, you could say, with no repercussions. And most people, even Trump supporters, be like, yeah, he is crude. Sometimes he says some shit. Sure, we all do, you know what I mean? We all do. But but these these you you have to take the good with the bad. And in the cases of the three people that I pointed out here, you have to take the bad with the good. Yeah, yeah. And pointing out the bad doesn't make you a piece of shit human being.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. We look at Trump and look at all the good he's done for this country so far in a year, uh, but yet there's things we don't like too that we didn't like. And we had mentioned him on here several times, at least. And uh even when he was running, you know, we we're Trump supporters, all of us in this room, but uh, you know, we also mentioned a bad. You know, we we we try to be uh biased, you know, and uh I think we do a good job of that for the most part.

SPEAKER_04

It depends on how to far to the left you're standing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Uh you know, uh I I I just feel like that in today's day that there is a lot of and I I truly believe we're we're like going backwards as as far as uh the racial divide uh and relations, race relations. Right. We're not uh moving forward, we're kind of at a standstill right now. I wouldn't say a standstill because I think it's getting worse as time goes on. Um it will you're almost like going back to the 60s again. And and I believe that's where we're heading if you know we really don't get a grip on this shit. Uh it's kind of it's it's worrisome to be honest with you. Who the hell wants to go back to that again?

SPEAKER_04

Well, the funny part of it is you you hear some and I don't even want to call them black leaders because that's bullshit. That's the you know, and then what let's call them people on TikTok, people with an audience, uh saying stuff like you you'll have black people getting on TikTok and saying that they want racial division. A lot of them do because they benefit from it. Undoing all the work that somebody that they deify, like Martin Luther King, worked for. Right. The message of unification and and equal rights and all that other stuff and and not being segregated, desegregation, they want to walk that back.

Social Media Spats And Controversial Leaders

SPEAKER_03

I think as a uh a white male. What? Um I just look at like the Black Lives Matter movement. That was a scam. That's all it was. It was a big scam. All that money that they got. And now what that does is it makes me very untrusting to donate to anybody. To donate to anybody because you think it's a scam. Now, during the time of the George Floyd riots, that's when Black Lives Matter really took off. And I'm not saying what those police officers did was correct. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I also think burning down cities and leaders telling them it's okay to do so was completely wrong. Improper response, definitely. Right. Um I think there's a huge difference between a civilized protest, which somebody might actually pay attention to.

SPEAKER_01

Right, but and riots. And but we have to clarify too here that it wasn't actually it wasn't said, yeah, it's okay to go and burn a city down. It's not okay to be violent. I want to clarify. Not in those words, right, but they weren't doing anything to stop it. Right. I I just want to make sure that you know.

SPEAKER_04

And also the way that it was false the with the the the way that it was soft soaped and falsely reported, my favorite was the CNN correspondent who was standing in front of fires in the middle of the fucking street saying that these are mostly peaceful protests. Really? Are you kidding me? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so yeah, there's there, there's I think there's plenty of room for outrage.

SPEAKER_03

I've I've I've always wondered what how do you help a protest by looting? Well, that's the thing. It's it they use the protest as an excuse. Right.

SPEAKER_01

I brought that up I don't know how many times. What are you gaining by burning down a building or smashing a window and going into the street?

SPEAKER_03

Stealing everything inside the store.

SPEAKER_01

They're gaining a 70-inch TV.

SPEAKER_03

You know, the only the only person they're hurting there is a store owner.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Like Jim and I were talking yesterday, uh, you know, they they do this stuff, and then these companies, it's not even during a riot, but you have uh the in these communities these people going into a Walgreens, a Walmart, a CVS, right aid, or whatever, and they're ripping them off, shoplifting stealing, and then these companies are pulling out, and then all of a sudden, you know, they're wondering why they're pulling out, and they can't figure it out. So right away they label it as a racist thing. And no, that's not why they're pulling out, they're pulling out because you're hurting your own community by doing that.

SPEAKER_03

More than likely, the company's insurance company said enough. Right. Enough.

SPEAKER_01

You need to get out of that area. Yeah, yeah. And that's what what happened up in uh, I believe it was Portland, I believe. Uh Walmart closed a couple stores up there because uh they were losing millions of dollars a year due to theft.

SPEAKER_03

They say that Walmart loses billions a year due to theft, you know, uh countrywide. Yeah. Yeah. Uh and it's like I I don't like like yesterday I went to Walmart there in Taylor to get a couple things. I had to go to tractor supply after work, I shot over to Walmart. As I'm doing the self-checkout, I looked. They're watching.

SPEAKER_01

There's a video right there in front of you. It comes right up on the screen of your.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my God. I prefer the old school hand it to a cashier. Right. But the line for the old school cashier would be the beard in the lost town. Right, right. There was actually a line for the self-checkout.

SPEAKER_04

Well, it's three cashiers for 20, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Cash registers. Do I enjoy being under constant surveillance? No. You see why it's necessary though? Yes. I do under um we shop at Sam's Club also. And I use the Sam's Club app, and you scan as you go. No, no lines, no waiting. And they have like this little bar thing that you walk out, and that thing. Checks to make sure you scanned everything.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, it's just a way and then the girl goes, You're good.

SPEAKER_01

Well now now at Home Depot they they hide uh electronic uh sensors in the power tools, some of the power tools.

SPEAKER_03

Really?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So if you walk out and it wasn't scanned, it'll set off. It'll set the the uh alarm off.

SPEAKER_03

I follow the uh Dixon City police and the Wilkes Bray Township police on Facebook. When are people gonna figure out everything they do is under surveillance? Like everything.

SPEAKER_01

Everything you do, you can't you can't uh pick your nose anymore without uh people watching. You know, I was driving down the road last week, and uh I'm not gonna lie, I picked my nose quite a bit when I'm in my truck. Not a boy. Yeah. And my camera went off, told me I was distracted. You must have got a good one. Do you think I pulled my finger out of my nose? No, I did not. I just kept on digging for gold. Here you go. You want to watch me? This is what you're getting.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, watch this, I can go deeper.

SPEAKER_01

Not only one, I get up there too.

SPEAKER_03

Now, at my previous company, you know, that big company up there on uh up in Tonkanic, uh their Samserra cameras would talk to you. This one does too. Yeah, so do ours does. So do ours. I have Samsera cameras in the truck. It doesn't say a word.

SPEAKER_01

Well, they have it, they probably have it mixed up, you know.

SPEAKER_03

But uh the the ones up at my previous company, if you were wearing a shirt that was close to the color of your seatbelt, right, all day you're listening to put your seatbelt on. That happens to us too. Oh, yeah, you you you you got one hand on the wheel, the other one laying there on the armrest, and it says, put down your phone. It's like where did that come from? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Well, just to just to broaden or to touch on a point that Rich brought up, and and you're bringing up about surveillance. Surveillance is all it's it's well and good, it's invasive, but it's necessary, yada yada yada. But when you're living in a uh in a state or a locality that is essentially legalized shoplifting, right? All the surveillance in the world is not going to stop the shoplifting, and and all of that shoplifting is going to lead to what we talked about before, the local Walgreens closing its doors and pulling out of a neighborhood. You can't sit there and scream that's racist. No, it isn't. That's money. That's money. And at the end of the day, every corporation is designed for one purpose, and that is to make money.

SPEAKER_01

Here's the way I look at it. Here's the way I look at it. We when when shoplifting happens and theft happens, what happens? The price of the product goes up to make up that difference.

SPEAKER_03

Or the availability goes down, too. Right. So it's terrible. And also if you stop, it becomes a pain in the ass to shop, try to go get Suda Fed. Yeah, everything, everything's under lock and key, especially out locking.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but my point is here is so if we stop the shoplifting and stop the looting, and we even off even out the per the cost and price of things, then people that are committing them acts, they're still gonna go, they're gonna go back if they're not already, go back and get out welfare and food stamps. So, in essence, we're still paying. They're probably getting both either way. The hard working man is still paying for this shit, no matter what.

SPEAKER_03

You know, and it's funny how shoplifting has evolved to one person goes in, sticks something under their shirt, nothing always. Now it's gangs of people, yeah. Yeah, washing this. Better numbers, stronger numbers.

SPEAKER_01

That's that's probably you know the way they look at it. Um it's a it's a shame that uh this stuff happens, but it happens, and it's always gonna happen. We're never it's never gonna go away.

SPEAKER_03

I also wonder, yeah, you you'll never know. Is that what did in right aid?

SPEAKER_01

It's a possibility, yeah. Sure. Yeah, sure. Too much theft. Too much theft. Too much theft. Now, when you walk into a a Rite Aid or we used to have Walgreens here in Pittsden, they shut down and moved out. You never saw um uh uh a security guard in that place. You never saw anybody like that in there, you know, so you know we just have to uh roll up the punches with this shit and bring it to light.

SPEAKER_04

And it's when you when you see bad behavior pointing it out, getting back to my original point, yeah, pointing pointing out bad behavior is not racist. Sorry, folks. No, sorry to tell you. And and you know we we Jim and I are it's also not exclusive to to the black community. I'm not saying that either.

SPEAKER_01

No, every every I was just gonna bring something up. Every shade is guilt responsible. Yes, is responsible. It's just like we were talking uh yesterday, yesterday, and uh I didn't tell you just my wife was calling, just to get you off the phone. She really was calling. I would understand though.

SPEAKER_04

I know I have a tendency to babble, that's why I have a microphone if I'm micro.

SPEAKER_01

Uh but we were talking about you know Jim sitting home and watching reels. And and I watch them too. I watch a lot of them. And a lot of these reels that I watch are people getting pulled over in their cars. And it's always hold on, like Jim said, hold on, wait a minute, they're saying to the cop. Uh, I'm I'm on the phone with my mother, I'm on the phone with my lawyer, I'm trying to make a phone call, I'm trying to get to work. I'm a sovereign citizen. I'm a sovereign citizen they're the best ones. Oh my god. They're the best. So they're the ones I root for to get paid.

SPEAKER_03

I'm requesting a supervisor on scene.

SPEAKER_01

Because they think they think they have the right to a supervisor. They do not. They don't.

SPEAKER_04

And it's I I feel the need to say this real quick. They being the people that have been pulled over. Right. You know, in case you get anybody overly sensitive out there wondering what they means.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. But it it's it's both. It's both white, black, Hispanic. It doesn't matter. But it it's funny that so many people think that they know the law, but they don't. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's my favorite. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's the best. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Have you ever seen um uh just a plug for somebody else? Friday's with Frank. Oh, Friday's awesome.

SPEAKER_01

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SPEAKER_04

I will say Frank is a terrible name. Fuck that name.

SPEAKER_03

Uh it's just hilarious when he says, This is my job. Yeah. I know how to do my job. And the guy's arguing, no, no, this is I have rights for this and this and this. No.

SPEAKER_01

And then he in that clip, in one of the clips, similar to that, he says, I do this for a living. You do not give me your driver's license and registration now, or I'm gonna rip you out of your car. Just like that, he said it. Nice, calm, cool, and collected, you know.

SPEAKER_04

Now let's let's you you brought up that I've been sitting at home for four months watching reels. That is the reason why. I didn't say four months. Um, I will.

SPEAKER_03

Three and a half for half a month, he was really suffering the other three and a half.

Good And Bad In Public Figures

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, listen, I I I could I could scream the word ouch while watching reels. But I watched those reels for that purpose. Because after 10 minutes, 15 minutes of the police officer saying, I need your idea, these are situations that could have been solved just by handing over that, or even by saying, I don't have that information. Yeah, it would be a ticket, it would be the car being towed. But I watch those reels for the smash of the window, it's the dream of the person being drugged out, and even better is the Easter egg them being tased. Yeah. Oh, I I laugh and laugh and laugh. Doesn't matter the demographic. Most people act this 90% of people act the same way when they get lit up. It's hysterical. Uh I I I I I just uh you you're your your your tears nourish me. It's great. And it's entertainment. I'm sorry. It is entertainment. Polar opposite.

SPEAKER_03

This is this is how I handle uh getting things from police officers. It might go your way, or they might just do their job and give you the ticket, whatever. But when I applied for this new employment, uh they wanted a copy of the accident report from the Almighty JB. Right. And uh so I went online, I'm like,$22, it's gonna take two weeks. Uh just write your own. So I called the local state police barracks. I said, Hey, can you bring up an accident report from 2022 or whatever it was? He says, sure. And he says, but the state wants our money. I physically cannot let it leave the building. Yeah. And he goes, but there's a camera in your phone, correct? Yeah. And I go, yeah. He goes, okay, bring the camera. And I says, all right, and uh the state police where I live are very nice.

SPEAKER_04

Most of them are when you cooperate.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So I says, uh, hey, um, I'm just assuming that uh your troopers up there like donuts. And he goes, We do, especially the ones with extra sprinkles. So I had Dunkin' Donuts on the way up, and it was right before Valentine's Day that I or it was probably three weeks before Valentine's Day, whatever. Uh VD. V D. Uh so they had the heart-shaped sprinkles, and uh so I asked them for a dozen donuts, everything was sprinkles, right? And they just gave me a sort of sprinkle donuts. I bring them up, I get what I went up there for. I I left it on the counter because I just couldn't get the box to go through that little slot. He wasn't coming out. But as I was leaving, he came out and grabbed him and he opened him up and he went, Jesus Christ, you took me seriously. I'm like, I did.

SPEAKER_04

Enjoy your donuts. This is an excellent this is an excellent story about Tim's respect for law enforcement. Where are our donuts? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry, empty-handed. You were at freaking dunking donuts. I was, I was. Uh number, what is that, 394? Uh you know, you could have brought some donuts.

SPEAKER_03

I could have. But I've always lived by the philosophy of when I get pulled over, until the first thing I do is put the window down. Second thing I do is put both hands on the steering wheel so they know. And I find that yes, sir, no, sir, goes a long way. Right. You know, if you treat them with respect. And when I was back with JB, remember that when I got caught going down uh Stroudsburg Hill mighty fast. And I got that cop laughing so hard he almost fell off the steps, so he just gave me a warning for doing quite a bit over the speed.

SPEAKER_04

Other advice, you know, you get pulled over by a police officer, like you said, windows down, well lit. He comes up to your window, immediately starts sucking. Yeah. No way. Run neighbor. Run neighborly.

SPEAKER_03

You guys got both hands above.

SPEAKER_01

Those are jokes. You guys have both hands above the desk there. Make sure. Mine are in my pockets. I just won't tell you which pockets are. I just want just comply. You know, just comply. You know, if you were speeding, you know, most of the time, you're not going to get a ticket. You're going to get a warning most of the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Unless you're in a commercial vehicle.

SPEAKER_03

This is how I I'd never seen the guy before in my life. You know that Mexican restaurant there, it's out in the parking lot of the Viewmont Mall.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. No, but I am willing to hear more.

SPEAKER_03

I'll tell you what. Number one, the food in there is excellent. No, they don't pay me to say that. They have Mexican food. We ate there a couple times. It was all right. Um rather the other one. When I was leaving, there was a Scranton cop just sitting there in the parking lot. So I looped around, I put my passenger window down, and I was kind of surprised he put his window down, and I said, Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for your service and have a safe weekend. That guy, the biggest smile I've ever seen in my life, and then I go, I'm kind of surprised you put your window down. I hear Scranton's a pretty bad neighborhood. And then he shot you. And then he shot. It does.

SPEAKER_04

Respect a little respect goes a long way. Yeah. That's it.

SPEAKER_03

And and who knows? Maybe next week that guy will be pulling me over. Yeah. And he'll remember. Oh, that's that guy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. You know? Yeah. And you know what? Even if you do get a ticket, like right before, right before I I took my leave, uh, I got pulled over on 81 coming down in the into the valley, 55 mile an hour zone. He clocked me at 70. I I hey, don't, don't laugh. Gravity, gravity happens. Anyway.

SPEAKER_03

It happens better on the shroudshale. Damn right.

SPEAKER_04

When you got that ticket. The guy pulled me over, come up to the window, very professional, very nice. I had my shit together. I had my stuff ready. Handed it over to it. It's a procedure. Yeah, yeah. You you know what they're gonna ask for at the very basic. They're gonna ask for driver's license, registration, proof of insurance. This is true in a commercial vehicle, it's true in your personal vehicle.

SPEAKER_01

Now, just so you know, when you do come back, everything, all your registration, your if the your HUT, I don't know if HUD is, but your insurance, all your permits, no more paper. It's all what on the app? Yeah. On an app? Yeah, it's called uh permit link. Good. It's much easier. And the only thing, the only pain in the ass is if you switch tractors, you have to remember what tractor number you in you're in so you can punch it in there.

SPEAKER_04

Well, luckily, you lean your head out the window, you can see on the fender. Yeah. So that's right there for that that was nice when they when they told us.

SPEAKER_01

That is good.

SPEAKER_04

That's that's a new one that I'm gonna have to I have permit link, but the last time I tried to use it, it didn't work because I tried to pull out the Reggie on a trailer. Yeah. And uh I I guess they got their shit together.

SPEAKER_01

You know, but yeah, that's what that's where you're gonna get your shit now. So good deal. That's I still have a hard copy. I still get a hard copy just in case the app goes down or something. Well, my truck, uh my truck didn't I have a dedicated truck.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah, nobody's been driving that for the last year. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

And and who knows if they did their due diligence and got the hard copy of the permit. I know it's something I would do even with that app. Right. Like you're talking about. I I I like Yeah, I want the hard be just the hardware.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I it's it's tough to just rely on that link. That's for sure.

Protests, Riots, And Retail Theft Fallout

SPEAKER_03

Uh just a quick update. I've been kind of watching the what scrolls across the bottom. Both a deputy sheriff and a uh Secret Service uh agent shot that guy.

SPEAKER_01

Good.

SPEAKER_04

Good. You know Yeah, the video showing them high-fiving afterwards.

SPEAKER_01

All right. Yeah. You know, we're watching the news here on this on this thing, and I don't know if anybody, if you guys have been following that Nancy Guthrie shit.

SPEAKER_03

I could I only have one question, and I think it's an important question. If it was your mom that went missing, would her face be plastered over every newscast? Of course not.

SPEAKER_01

That that that is a uh that's a valid question, and I mentioned that on my true crime podcast before. But here's my here's my bitch about this whole investigation. I don't care if you're a local cop, if you are FBI, if you're a US Marshal, if you're ATF, if you are local and you have evidence or you have whatever, any kind of information. It's gotta be shared. It doesn't have to be. No, it should no it should be. It should be. It should be. And in the beginning of this investigation, the the local sheriff in that that Petnum Petnam County, I I don't remember the name of the county.

SPEAKER_03

Somewhere in the desert.

SPEAKER_01

Right. But they would not would not share information with the FBI. And I think that was wrong. 100% wrong.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I I thought you were saying share it with the media.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, okay, never during the current uh ongoing investigation. I I I don't care. I do not care. If the FBI comes in and wants information, give it, I think the local local authorities need to give that up. They need to give it up.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that kind of thinking is part of what led to 9-11. It is into jurisdictional non-cooperation.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's all about ego and taking credit for this and that and this and that. And it's like, you freaking kidding me? Let's find this woman.

SPEAKER_03

Go team, baby. Go team. There you are.

SPEAKER_04

There should yeah, they're showing uh clips from the hockey game. The USA just won. Uh pissed me off. I missed that moment. Really quick though.

SPEAKER_03

I I'll bet it's gonna be on this afternoon. I probably will. No, we're not getting paid for this, but uh yeah. I'll bet it's on the USA network. It should be.

SPEAKER_04

Quickly going back to the Guthrie thing. Uh I've I've been watching it uh and I've I've I I I have uh I think I know it uh it was Matt Lauer. You think it was Matt Lauer? I thought it was Kamala Harris. No NBC affiliation, you know. Matt Lauer has an axe to grind. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I I don't I don't ever watch NBC News, ever, uh including their morning show. So I have no idea who that woman is. I don't know. Except for she's one of the hosts on uh that's all I know.

SPEAKER_01

But you're right. If it was why are they putting so much emphasis into this? Why what's the difference between that woman and a 12-year-old girl that's missing that more than likely is being sex trafficked? Right.

SPEAKER_03

Or the 21-year-old male or a 20-something year old male that was just shot in Mar-a-Lago, whose mom reported him missing. Did you hear about it before today? Right. I didn't.

SPEAKER_01

How much emphasis did the authorities put on that? Yeah. Come on. You know, uh and it's sounds to me. It's a human being, no matter how you look at it.

SPEAKER_03

Uh for the first two or three or two weeks or week and a half, they were looking into one of those family members. I I I I I I I don't want to say which one because I'm not sure if it was her sister or her brother that was getting, or it was her brother-in-law.

SPEAKER_01

A brother-in-law. And uh I I I stayed away from this whole thing because there's too much speculation. There's you don't know what's true, what is not true. So I I just stayed away from I just brought it up a little bit, my last uh podcast, and uh too much going on with it, you know. I think after what's it been?

SPEAKER_03

It's been over two weeks. It's three we're in three now. I don't think her mom is still here. It's not a good outcome, usually after this much time.

SPEAKER_01

Highly doubtful. She had heart issues. Heart issues, and uh she was 84, I believe. Uh they found blood, uh her blood, uh she's supposed to have medication.

SPEAKER_03

Right, and they left the medication there.

SPEAKER_01

And it's not like you could walk into any pharmacy and and buy whatever no, and if you were to buy uh that would open up uh a can of worms for them, so they're not gonna go out and well, I guess can I make a small point about the medication thing though?

SPEAKER_04

Go for it. If they took her to Mexico, they can get anything they want as far as medication goes. Sure, they can, sure, right, and there's no questions asked. Right, right, right. My my ex-wife went on a uh a cruise where uh they they spent some time in areas of Mexico, and she was like, I I could come home with all the drugs that I want over-the-counter, yeah. Just just go just go and buy them. Yep, it's it's remarkable. And in even the even the cruise ship, uh the the they were like, Yeah, you could bring X amount of this back, X amount of that back. It's like right. Jesus. So, you know, getting her medicated might not be as hard as we're thinking. So there is some hope that the woman could still be alive. Maybe if they took her to Mexico and got her medication for her and they're really just holding out. Do it do I think that that's what's happening? Nah. Right. But you know, I also

SPEAKER_03

don't want to be you know completely in in my mind i think she passed i think she did quite a few weeks ago the strain of what's going on yeah definitely i think she did but that's it it it oh we're right there in the purple dark purple there for the snow yeah we're done we're we're getting we're gonna get a new snowblower might as well use it we're gonna get it you know what i i really like that 115 horsepower uh snow mover i got it's got heat rain now look at this woman here on the left the shorter one with the oh yeah oh i thought you were talking about the long haired free we're watching it we're what do you think about this whatever this is if you were to first look at that what would you what would your first thought be uh why is she there no oh what I'm not sure who how to identify that person how about that all right well I know how to identify that person I I'm gonna leave it go because I'll get myself in trouble all right thoughts on that what else we got Jim uh I don't know we've been pretty serious blizzard bomb cyclone you're a fucking cyclone how many how many bad words do they need to put in a row to accentuate the fact that this is a bad it's a blizzard bomb cyclone uh herpes uh aides and millions braced how do you brace for snow uh usually you you you bend over spread your legs just a little bit and hold on to whatever piece of furniture is gonna support you while you're getting fucked no too soon like pretty blood uh how do you really feel about that my ass is be my ass is bleeding what a blizzard bomb cyclone that was oh god my mother-in-law listens to this we're I apologize to your mother-in-law I'm an awful human being sorry mom you know I um I talked to your better half you know the one that's actually nice uh really yeah about your father in law I was kind of hoping he could come out to my place in June but she said no he can no longer do that to uh help myself and Lisa oh uh exchange vows and uh because he is no longer wearing the black robe he can no longer do that when are you getting married?

SPEAKER_04

June I'm I'm getting ordained because I'm performing a marriage ceremony in July I shit you not there you go there you go Tim so as long as you don't wear up show up wearing a frickin' robe no I I will and by robe he means like something satin and that I ordered off of Adamwave.com in short you know hey look at this would you do that for me of course I would then wait wait a minute I need a fucking date no you're married you don't need a date I'm not I'd rather take you and her all right I'm only kidding Laura I'm sorry no I I put plus one but is it going to be a plus two are you bringing Laura and the date swinger but yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm said to uh be or I have to be ordained by July I could I could get it earlier and I'm I'm happy to if you want if you want to have it out of your phone it's like a 10 minute thing on the internet yeah well 35 dollars I already I already have a spiel in mind by the power vested in me by the state of Pennsylvania and the internet I I now pronounce it men and wife but I'd be happy to if you're serious I'd be happy to yeah I am I'm dead serious yeah well that'd be fantastic cool well we'll we'll talk about it more truckers to be required truckers to be required to take driver's test in English oh you're here what you can't hear any of us on your headphones it's not in my headphones neither one it's dead yours is dead too no mine's great mine's good I broke it I wonder why we'll talk louder hold on wait no it's back now all right kinda yeah it's there that was weird yeah but uh let's move on here for a little bit here truckers to be required to take driver's tests in English it's been that way for years it has been actually technically no and I found this out when I got into a Facebook article the test hasn't been the the the physical test when you're in the truck with an in with an instructor or with a with a license the road test essentially has to be uh conducted in English like any any banter between you and the tester uh in Pennsylvania New Jersey and I forget what other state I want to say Delaware I know that you can get a paper test in Spanish okay um that's just for the that that's just for the paper testing part right uh when you go out on the road it has to be in English and the law that we refer to so often as being on the books um since 1937 I believe that is for people operating commercial vehicles yes so it's it's a fine point but it is a point so my question is you get you get the the the the written test in Spanish Ethiopian whatever yeah and you pass your test you get your CDL you get out on the road but you still can't read the road signs and this is part of the argument that I had on on social media uh I pointed out that take for example because because this person said something ridiculous he said the roast roadsides are road signs are pretty standard uh from country to country no they're not no they're not first of all but let's just let's assume for a minute this this this yutz was right on the interstates now they have digital signs that change they advise people of upcoming road conditions accidents uh construction weather weather and and and advisories that you have to adhere to especially like the state of Pennsylvania for example tier one tier two tier three it tells you what you can and can't drive on the roads due to weather conditions these people and when I say these people once again with the racial shit uh I'm referring to the trucking community that is vastly uh uh uh Indian Pakistani uh of Latino descent uh Russian three out of those four groups that I mentioned that make up a very large swath of the truck driving community their home language is a different fucking alphabet it is unrecognizable to us so they're approaching this digital sign doing 70 miles an hour they have no English they have to try to translate the pertinent information that that sign is putting forward from a a language that looks like gobbledygook to us right to what they know that's dangerous that is inherently dangerous so yes we do need to filter out people who can't process that information and it could be something as simple as your bills are lading hazmat material is the big is my one of my biggest concerns is the hazmat uh you get in a wreck uh and you don't know what the frick you're holling right you know it's let's say your paperwork catches on fire or whatever now you don't know what you're hollering and you don't know how and if you do know what you're hollering uh how do you communicate that to uh uh a state police officer that does not speak your language first a first responder in the event of an accident and here's another thing i i pick up at a place up in Conklin New York the weight is in kilograms yeah yeah so I asked the ship races uh so how do I convert that to real weight or American weight he says times it by 2.2 I never knew that never now I do or google yeah google it but it was uh it's like uh now we just had another Venezuelan kill somebody in another wreck there there's been two fatalities this month in Indiana Indiana yep yep uh he did not have a CDL or he had a CDL but it wasn't a CDL it was uh it was just a a piece of paper that's all it was he was he misspelled CDL when he wrote it out he was not in the system so you know where do we go with this how does this get fixed without what's going on now actually uh well it has to happen it does have to happen but like we like once again we look at the sit we look at the racial situation again it is the first thing that is yelled that you're being racist against people right and not letting them make a living no we're saying that we don't want to put you behind the wheel of a 65 and kill foot long 80,000 pound missile.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah and kill my wife and kid right in the process.

Police Encounters, Compliance, And Respect

SPEAKER_04

And you know the the big company up in Toncanic they get them from Canada from here from there everywhere coming in there to pick up and their habit is to their phone like this Google translates yeah to translate and they go yeah but google here's the other part here's why they probably show them the door when they do that Google translates awful you could you could look at you you could you could say something in Spanish which which arguably is the most commonly spoken other language in the United States besides English and you could hold your phone up to somebody and they could say a phrase in expans in Spanish and you look at your phone the super karate monkey death car will soon be parked in my space what the fuck does this mean and um I think as freight rates steadily decrease my point is that Google is awful that the um non-English speaking drivers are coming out of the woodwork.

SPEAKER_03

They're everywhere Amazon is Amazon is bad bad well we had that account. And just recently I learned what uh some companies hire SAP drivers oh you don't know what that is no oh I re I googled it because when I was looking for employment it would say we hire SAP drivers and I'm like I've never heard of never heard of that I'm trying to guess what that would mean Spanish?

SPEAKER_01

Nope no either failing or declining to take a drug test then you go into a program yeah yeah and uh um Western Express there's the worst oh that makes perfect sense though from what I saw the they're the they're the new uh they're the new Swift Swift they're worse yeah they are yeah I was up in Westwood uh Massachusetts two weeks ago uh we were supposed to podcast but we I couldn't make it because I had to sleep there and I'm in the door taking my 10 and another guy comes in whips it in gets out of his truck uh oriental guy he comes right up on my truck and opens my door what are you doing there's a good way to get your ass kicked so he hands me his bills and he says nothing he just points at the address is this where I'm at is that what he wanted to know yeah am I in the right place I said first off get off my truck and second off figure it out for yourself right I did you know if uh if he was uh a little more cordial or knocked politely perhaps right I would have helped the guy should have introduced him to your tire thumper right but it was right there on my door too yeah uh other than that uh I should have kicked his ass to be honest with you but man did that piss me the freak off manita you are man just jumping up on my truck like that this is my house you know I I I even treat a daycab with you know if you were in a day cab I'd treat that with respect that's his house for the day you just knock on the window tap on the window whatever you know I drive exclusively daycab I'll never get into a sleeper again and I gotta tell you I appreciate guys that'll gently tap on the window because you never know when I have my balls out Jesus hey it's my own truck it's assigned you know yeah well I'd uh I'd bring some of those uh sanitary wipes because uh every scumbag that works over there has been in your truck for the last four months I said they were out I didn't say I was steering with them Jesus no he has nothing to do with it why why why me why you know I I try to do my best with this show and I do you do you think Jim will uh clean up his act a little before June I'm kind of hoping we hope at least one day I know how to 10 or 15 minutes you know let's do this you put him at a different table just in case no he's got to stand in front of everybody we've got to sit somewhere to eat oh I can't eat are you having food or you're not having food of course we're gonna it's gonna be a cheap way it's a low carb it's a vegan low carbon yeah yeah give me those low carb sprinkled donuts you promised me uh yes we're gonna have food yes we're gonna have drink where are you having it at right at my house are you yeah oh that's sweet yeah that's real sweet it is please do not dress up this is a country wedding really I could wear my shit kickers and come in my freaking I'm getting can I come in my shorty short pair of cowboy boots a pair of jeans a white shirt a black vest and a cowboy hat can I wear my shorty shorts no come on being that I swear to god if you show up in a frickin' speed oh I might if you want me to do the ceremony I will wear khakis and a button down but they will be breakaway they will be breakaway and uh one of the gentlemen that I used to work with up at uh helicopter the big place up there in Toncanneck he um because I invited my mom obviously yeah and uh she's gonna she tell me she's coming yeah and uh you haven't seen her in a lot she's not in Florida right yeah 12 or 13 years since I saw my mom and uh this gentleman that I used to work with uh told me that he's gonna dance with my mom and to get him a Father's Day card because after that dance I will then be calling him daddy.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like oh my God.

SPEAKER_01

And you think breakaway pants is disturbing I'd be more worried about your mother that guy said his sights and told you about it helicopter.

SPEAKER_04

I got a little worried and I said man I should not have invited that guy are you going to be writing your own vows or is it you know going to go with a conventional do you you know uh you you you're so asking the wrong person.

SPEAKER_03

All right want me to write them for you? No I do you want me to write them for you? No I do not um I was uh getting scolded pretty heavily because I hadn't come out with a guest list from that of the people that I invited yet. Yeah so yesterday when I got home from work I uh I made my list uh it was nice and peaceful in the house she was out getting whatever done to her gown I don't know she calls it something I still don't know what exactly happened to it but uh something about so there wouldn't be a real long train behind it they suck it up near her butt somewhere I you might have to put on my imitation plus three four four yeah Laura Bear Coco and Jagger I've seen your dog I know I know for sure I won't be feeding the dogs because they'll be gone and just to let you know there's a lot of woods it's not quite as easy to find them there as it is here.

SPEAKER_04

By the way with with that description of the alteration of your future bride's dress I pray to God that you do write your own vows.

SPEAKER_03

I love this bitch I I I she tried to explain it to me. I'm as confused now as I was before she explained it I I have no idea what it involves butt stuff. Yeah just go with the I don't know if they I I I don't know what they did to it. I honestly don't they tack it to her shoulders in the back right the train now goes over her head around her knees and um she will have to will have to use a two-wheeler because she won't be able to walk down the aisle sweet yeah put her down in the side by side or just get rid of that oh no I still got that take her down in that there you go well see the problem is um or the tractor yeah no the tractor's gonna be used for something very good uh we are gonna fill the bucket with the tractor with ice and fill it with beer that is brilliant air that is brilliant and this can you believe Lisa said this to me she says Tim you know you got to wash that bucket before we put beer in there I'm like beer's in a sealed container don't worry about it well here here's a question too could I could I bring a tent there are a couple people that are going to be spending the night out in the woods I'm gonna be one of them yeah you're more than welcome I just might pull out my camper no no because I I got a permanent spot for that now what are you doing for music are you like a DJ or you're gonna do like a no we're just gonna have like a Bluetooth speaker I could play I'm missing a string that you oh wow you you're missing a string crambone that's great yeah it's uh you know how I'm missing that string I I it was a defective string that's how it broke yeah the man oh actually it's not you broke the string on on RJ's guitar yeah that's the one from you want a cordon he did ride crambone uh we said we were watching something last night and Lisa oh no I was on hold for uh T-Mobile and they yeah you know they put the and I'm sitting over there at the sectional going listening to on holding that's music and uh she says oh good you know how to dance I said the only dance I'm gonna do at our wedding is the Trump dance to the YMCA that's the only dance I can dance that's funny yeah actually that's all right you gotta get you gotta get a lot of you gotta get a lot of like uh not just classic rock you got you gotta do some 80s hair hair band power ballads I'm also a country guy you know uh the older country yeah not the real old country little George Jones maybe hello darling no not quite that old like early 80s country yeah all right now that's good stuff diamond Rio and stuff like that yeah yeah yeah um the I've got a couple songs that uh like I'd like to play during the wedding not like my first dance thing like I don't even know how to dance like me and Jim could serenage I'll put my hand up on your hip when I dip you dip we did Jesus Christ Tuesday moving on um you are gonna bring Laura because uh she will keep you in control yeah she's gonna have to keep me in line I'm coming solo so nobody's gonna keep me in control as far as keeping people in line who's keeping Mandami in line uh it it is it is funny to see the spectacular failure that we all predicted come to fruition so quickly I heard on my way over here I listened to no they're not paying me to say this I listened to Fox News in my pick on uh seriously and uh Mandami came out with a rule whether it was yesterday or this morning or whatever you have to show citizenship papers to help them shovel snow two forms ID to help them shovel snow in New York city to vote but but you don't need it to vote no you don't need it to vote but you do need it to shovel snow yeah yeah this this guy here he's uh the the city was already in shambles already yeah and it it's gonna get worse and uh Florida and Texas really appreciate all those billionaires moving out there when when you mentioned Florida Florida has a population of 18 million people their their uh budget was eighty seven billion wow something like that don't quote me on the numbers I'm just gonna trying to give you a generalization generalization New York City is a population of eight billion their budget is over twenty seven million billion billion figure that one out now what he wants to do now is I'm sure you saw it on the news is raise the taxes of the rich now he just came out and said for everybody while he was while he was campaigning it was raise the taxes on the top whatever percent now it's he's gonna raise the tax on everybody because he's not getting cooperation as far as raising the taxes on the billionaires so now he wants the uh land or home ownership taxes home like he wants to raise property property there you go thank you he's not getting cooperation

SPEAKER_01

Operation from council because or uh governor Holcomb. Uh where is where do you think the city's going right now in the state that it's in? And on top of that going in the shit or it's going on top of that, he didn't even get the snow cleaned up from the last freaking storm. Yeah, and he's got another two feet coming today.

SPEAKER_03

With with uh with your um DPW force plowing snow with garbage trucks. Well, they they've always done that. Yeah, they've always done that.

SPEAKER_04

Meanwhile, the garbage is piling up though. Right.

SPEAKER_01

That's another reason why. Well, they just bury it under snow while you're plowing, you know?

SPEAKER_03

Um I I'm uh I love love going to Manhattan. I am a people watcher all day long. Yeah, but I would not go to that city.

Weddings, Donuts, And Breakaway Pants

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. Uh the my wife wants to take my son there for his birthday, and I was like, man, I don't know about that man. I don't know. But I think we're shying away from it. We're not gonna, I don't think we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_04

And I go uh I I go to the Bronx every day that I'm at work. When like when I'm when I'm at work, I go there every day. Yeah, but you're not seeing it.

SPEAKER_03

You're there while the hoodlums are still asleep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Um, yeah, but I still keep my head on a swivel. Oh, yeah. And I've also talked to the people that work in that store, and they they talk about the deterioration of the city. Oh, it's bad. And they're already in a piece of shit neighborhood.

SPEAKER_01

When I was when I was working for for I don't care because I'm not never go back writer. When I was working for them and I went in there to make deliveries into uh uh oh Jesus Christ, into Manhattan and uh Harlem. Harlem was the Oh, there's a nice neighborhood. You know, Harlem's not bad, to be honest with you. Go over to GWB, turn left.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_01

It's really not that bad. But you know, you get out of your truck, all you do is small pot. Sure, right on the street.

SPEAKER_03

So you come back and you fail a drug test.

SPEAKER_04

Did the same thing right outside of uh uh right outside of the Home Depot that I deliver to every day in on Bruckner and Brush Avenue. Uh the the people are sitting there waiting for their bus and they're stoned to the bejesus belt. Yeah, and this is not skunkweed, this stuff smells amazing. Yeah. I I I've never even smoked pot, and I'm like, that is quality shit, uh you know. But uh, yeah, it's it uh it's a it's a city in decline and it's only gonna get worse.

SPEAKER_03

When I was with uh for the couple months that I could afford to stay there delivering the frozen food there for the grocery store chain, uh I'd go into Queens, the Bronx, all these little, you know, whether it was a grocery store or people ordered their ice cream for the little bodegas or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Oh the city is it's not good. No, it's not good. No, you know, I I I always prefer to drive in Manhattan over Philadelphia. Absolutely. Uh I'll take Manhattan all day, every day. Not these days. I'd rather send me to Philly. I'd rather go down there.

SPEAKER_04

Now is that is that because of the the the crime issue, the the overall slipping of of safety in the city, or it's the both.

SPEAKER_01

It's the safety and uh the the traffic. The traffic now Philadelphia uh back in the day was much worse than Manhattan. It was much dirtier, scummier, the crime was returned. More dangerous, you know. But now it's the total opposite, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Have you ever made that pickup? It's right there in Philadelphia, somewhere, right next to some row homes. I and they had like an outside dock, you back up to like a concrete thing, and uh yes. Another one you're talking about. I went there one day, bumped the dock, and now I'm just kind of standing there on the outside dock. And the gentleman that was uh in charge of the dock, the ship or whatever, he says, Oh, good thing you weren't here yesterday. I'm like, Why? He goes, You see that row home right there? Yeah, yeah, the guy shot his father in there, and the cops went in and wasted him. I'm like, oh, nice neighborhood up there.

SPEAKER_04

That's the place that's a place that does like uh construction materials, silt, not not like in like uh safety silt fences and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, recently here we had over the past two or three weeks, we had a couple shootings, we had a stabbing, we had uh uh a woman get her purse stolen up at Walmart. We had Where here in Pittston? In Wolksburg. In the general area, in Wolksburg Valley. In the valley. Uh and in in my area here, like in the Pitston area, Durier, Pitston Township, the the house fires and structure fires. It's like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_03

There was one last night.

SPEAKER_01

There was one last night I heard of sirens here.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no, there was one last night up by Montrose, Dimmick or something. Dimmock, yeah. The homeowner was outside when the fire trucks showed up. His house is on fire, and he said, There's dynamite in there. Wow. Run! So they went and they evacuated the whole neighborhood until the state police bomb squad could get there. They're just gonna watch a house burn, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Imagine that, Jesus Christ almighty.

SPEAKER_03

Who the hell keeps dynamite in their house?

SPEAKER_01

Jimmy J.J. Walker, that's who. Yeah, JJ Walker. That almight! So what do you think of Manhattan ever bouncing back from all of this stuff? I don't I They need another Giuliani. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I I honestly believe that the city is gonna be worse now than what it was before Giuliani took over. I think it's gonna be a scarier place.

SPEAKER_04

That was Dinkins back in the call, right? The bad old days, because it was freaking bad before Giuliani.

SPEAKER_03

And I think I think it's heading in that direction. And it's already there, in my opinion. How much tourism money is that city losing? Because I'd go into I'd go into Manhattan and I'd spend the day. You spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on a sandwich.

SPEAKER_01

Unless a sandwich people go in there, they don't just go in there just for the museums and the eating and they go in there to see chaos, man.

SPEAKER_04

Drugs and prostitution.

SPEAKER_01

They do, they do. That's why they go to see the people, the skyscrapers all lit up. And these people are moving out, so you're not gonna get the skyscrapers are gonna be dark, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And uh there's some beautiful places in New York City. A lot of them I delivered to when I was with uh the place down there in Hazleton. Um one of them being the new uh World Trade Center, whatever they I forget what they call the new tower. Uh freedom tower. Freedom Tower, that's it. And uh it actually took my breath away. Uh when I delivered there, when I got backed into the dock, I was probably 10 feet from and then a sidewalk and then the reflecting pond for the old World Trade Center. And um the one thing I would like to go and see, but now I just don't want to go to that city. I want to go to the World Trade Center Museum. Uh but as far as like the open air markets, you know, like you go down into Chinatown and buy all the uh knockoff brands.

SPEAKER_04

And sure uh I have a friend there, I have a friend that buys purses there. Yeah, and I I always worry for her safety. Yeah, because she's like, listen, that's a nice purse. I'm gonna follow you into this alley. It's like honey, dumb, please, please. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But it's um it's too scary to go in there now. It is, it really is. I don't know. I used to love going in there. I used to love it.

SPEAKER_04

I don't want I don't want to just just dog on New York City, like you're talking about. There's beautiful places, there's a lot of culture there. It it's actually a technology mecca. Uh it and even this this is reflected even in the citizens of New York City. You see things and you're able to do things there that you can't do technologically anywhere else in the city. But like, for example, uh the prostitutes, you can now swipe your credit card right through their ass crack and pay for services rendered. It's great. Not that I've ever done that. We need to get in trouble for this one.

SPEAKER_01

Jimmy, Jesus.

SPEAKER_04

All right, well, let's. This is the guy who's gonna marry me. Yeah no, I'm not marrying you. I I don't swing that way. Um but let's let's I wanted to talk about like we've been we talking about some heavy subjects here. You guys uh when's the last time you guys went to a concert? Oh, for me it's been it's been a long time. It's been a long time.

SPEAKER_03

It's probably been uh 12 years, maybe.

SPEAKER_04

Do you mind if I take this kind of a right turn here? Because it's a little bit lighter than what we've been talking about.

SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah? It's been 12 years, it's about been about that for me, too, if not longer.

SPEAKER_04

One of the reasons why people go to see bands that have been around for a long time is nostalgia. Like there are bands out there that are still touring and making a ton of money when they haven't done any new releases or anything like that for years. Why do people go? They know the words to the songs, they're they're nostalgic about that. It perhaps that music put them in a certain moment of time, or they could look at their their wife and say, Oh my god, honey, remember when we heard this song and all that stuff. Some of these bands need to stop, stop, they need to stop, they're horrible, they're embarrassing themselves, they're embarrassing the people that pay a large amount of money to see them. Tickets aren't cheap. They're not cheap anymore. No, not at all. Even for nostalgia axe, and I I'm I'm actually gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna call out some names here of bands that are just uh they need to give up the ghost. Uh Rat, the 80s uh rock band Rat. Uh David Lee Roth had a a residency in in uh uh Las Vegas, and if you ever see the footage of his show, who is that embarrassing? And people are paying top dollar for this. Motley Crue, again, still drawing, still top dollar, a nostalgia act, you know the hits. Vince Neal, the lead singer from Motley Crue, is it's it it's like your plumbers up there singing. It's not it's it's terrible.

SPEAKER_03

He spends half his time bent over showing his ass crack.

SPEAKER_04

He can't breathe, and you swipe a credit card to pay for the ticket and his ass crack in only in New York though. But um no, you like it's it there, it's an embarrassment. And here's another one like if if none of those appeal to you, the most broadly appealing person that I think fits into this category is Bon Jovi. Uh uh, I would say him or Mick Jagger. Bon, Mick Jagger can still perform, he could still hit the notes, he's still putting on at 80 years old. Uh he's running across the stage. His heart went bad. He's like, I'll just put another one in me, bloke. You know what I mean? And and they did, you know. But Bon Jovi when he's performing now, because what I did is I I I look I looked on YouTube for live performances from these bands. Thank God he's going back to work. Bon Jovi looks like he has TMJ. And he can hit the notes. He's so far off of that. And people are paying top dollar for this. Or even worse, the 80s, the the 80s hair bands that are still coming out, you know, with the tight pants. And and and and listen, in the 80s, some of these bands, I'm gonna point out Poison here, who still put on a damn good show, but uh you looked at a poison cover in the 80s, you weren't sure whether to listen to the album or jerk off to these guys because there was there was so much makeup, there was so much big hair. You know, their first album was like I these chicks are hot. You know, it sounds like a it sounds like a Beavis and Butthead thing. And some of these bands are still trying to go out there and and capture that moment, and it's just embarrassing. Yeah, the performance is embarrassing, the visual is embarrassing, and it makes you start to hate your own past. Yeah, yeah. And it also reminds you, by the way, of how old you are, right?

SPEAKER_01

And that's a problem, too. I tell you, RJ's been listening to uh a lot of 80s stuff lately, a lot of 80s stuff.

SPEAKER_04

Don't don't he'll lose faith in humanity if he goes to see the actual bands. Now, I would also point out tribute bands. Some of the best shows that I have seen are tribute bands that are out there. They're still they're young enough to do the look, they're young enough to hit the notes. They're the the the the musicians are consummate professionals at a fraction of the ticket price.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I would still let you know Jimmy is a musician, he could play the guitar. I went and saw that I could break strings, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Uh Jimmy's it'll be three years this Thanksgiving. I went and saw that almost queen down there at uh very good. Yeah, I've seen them.

SPEAKER_01

I'll tell you what, they're good, they're really good. Yeah, really good. I haven't been to a concert in years. Like you said, God, I our I don't even think RG was born yet. It's been a while, 13, 14 years. Toby Keith. That was the last concert I went to see. Well, what's what happened?

SPEAKER_03

I saw him at uh Philadelphia, uh, where the where the uh Phillies play. Yeah, whatever the name of that ballpark is. Citizens Bank Park.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there you go. Well, Jim, you've been to a couple concerts over the past two or three years, right?

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SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Uh, but but I've actually made the for first of all, the the the the ticket prices are incredible. Oh uh we uh me and my ex went to see at Matchbox 20 and we got good seats. I I paid for good seats. She really wanted to see this. I wanted to see this band. They're very good in concert, and they they put on a hell of a show.$700 worth of tickets, though. Well, there's a car payment. Yeah, well, and so what what I've done recently is my cousin is is he has his ear to the ground, no pun intended, when it comes to tribute bands. And these tribute bands come around and he's like, hey man, come on, come on, come on down, let's let's let's see this tribute band. Okay, well, how much is it gonna be? No, the tickets are like 30 bucks. Yeah, yeah. You get very better off. It's oh my god, I'm about to be. You go into this place, it's they're usually very intimate old theaters, yeah. Right. Like a the 200, 300 seater. So you don't feel overwhelmed. There's actual seats. Listen, I'm an elderly gentleman. Yeah, I want to sit my ass down. I'm the I'm the one that will be, hey, sit down, down in front. I'm that guy. So these tribute bands come out, it's note for note. They're they're outstanding.

SPEAKER_01

What do they say when you stand up? They say anything to you? Okay, I didn't want to.

SPEAKER_03

Have you ever seen that Ron Wright skit about the uh people talking during live theater? No. Where he a couple people whispered, didn't make a big scene, and he just turns around to the person behind him and goes, You don't shut your freaking cockle. Yeah. And the whole theater heard that.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that's another thing. Like uh the age demographic doesn't necessarily uh guarantee good behavior. Uh uh again, me and my ex, we went a lot of places and saw a lot of bands, and and we saw Brian Adams up in Binghamton, and it was just Brian Adams with a guitar and a piano player. That's it. Yeah, again, smaller venue, intimate, great sound. That's what you like. And this one broad was drunk off of her ass, crept on. She kept on screaming, I love you. He stopped and said, I love you too. Stop it. Really? Didn't stop, yeah. Yeah, and but uh, but again, like we looked around and it it's kind of an ego boost. We were the youngest people at that show. Yeah, we saw RL Speedwagon, same deal. We're the youngest people at that show, you know, and and they the these were outstanding bands that were still putting on great performances, luckily, for you know, uh so I had some good experiences, but holy god, when you when you when you factor in the bit the giant question mark of whether you're gonna get a quality show, when you factor in the price of the tickets, when you factor in the price of something as stupid as parking, 35 to 50 bucks to park. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

RJ wanted to go see. And then 20 bucks for a beer.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, he wanted to see a couple bands. It was uh a show, uh it was like three or four bands. 400. Yeah, 400 bucks. Yeah, I said, no. I said, I'm not doing that. Listen to him on YouTube, and that's if you don't if you don't want nosebleed. Yeah, yeah. And you see these people going to like four, five, six concerts a year. It's like, where are you getting his money?

SPEAKER_03

I'd love to go see uh Chris Stapleton. I thought I would too. He's phenomenal. Oh like worth every penny. What are you gonna pay? If you're not hovering in a helicopter above the stadium, uh you you can't afford a seat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna pay top.

SPEAKER_04

We saw him down in Hershey, and I'm pretty sure I was in another county from the stage. Yeah, yeah. Probably were if you could afford it. But my god, what a what what a great performer! Like oh my god, does that guy have a set of pipes?

SPEAKER_03

No joking, Hobo.

SPEAKER_01

He sings a lot of uh, I think uh George Jones songs, he sings a lot of his stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Um, it's pretty good. Well, uh not this year, but last year's Super Bowl, uh, he sang the National Athletic. Oh, yeah, and I'll tell you what, he brought tears to people's eyes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I when when I we were talking, I was gonna talk about patriotism and being a patriot and all this stuff, and I love TikTok, as everybody knows. And they had the this British couple on their uh their reaction to the story of how the Star Spangled Banner came about. That's what made me think about talking about being a patriot and what it's all about. Francis Scott Key in the boat that like down his prisoner of that story? Yeah. Okay. And and he this couple was listening to the story. It sounded it sounded like Ronald Reagan was telling the story. That's what it sounded like. If you're gonna have a narrator, that's a good one. And uh he was narrating it, and at the end they played the Star Spangled Banner, and that was the best the best version of the Star Spangled Banner I've ever heard next to uh next to uh Chris Stapleton.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Honorable mention, by the way, Whitney Houston. She did a good job. Oh my god, she blew it away.

SPEAKER_01

But if you ever sweaty and coked up for the Super Bowl, I didn't watch it. I didn't watch the halftime show. No, no, that was the Dark Stangled Banner. Oh, yeah, no, no. It wasn't good. No, it wasn't good. I thought you meant the halftime show. No, even the halftime show. I wasn't watching that. No, I wasn't watching that. And now there was a big controversy about that halftime show. Once again, they want to claim freaking racism on this. Uh he did the whole thing in Spanish. Well, the halftime show and then uh uh Charlie Kirk's did the halftime show. Alternative whatever. And uh there's a big thing on that. People were pissed that that they did that. Why? Why are you pissed off? Offering an alternative.

SPEAKER_03

Why should I sit there? We'll just say for the half hour halftime. Why should I sit there and listen to somebody sing in a language I don't know if you understand?

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Exactly. I don't know. I don't know. I you know he was an entertaining gentleman, but uh I say it all the time. That this country needs immigration to survive. Definitely. That's how this country became what it is.

SPEAKER_02

I have I have absolutely no problem with immigration, legal immigration.

SPEAKER_04

Well, let's let's before we get off on a rant here, just bear in mind that the the gentleman that performed the halftime show is from Puerto Rico, which is a you know yeah, under the flag of the United States. Well, how many protection of territory? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

How many of my generation white males were watching the Super Bowl that can't understand a uh lick of Spanish? I can't. I I no I can't forget it. No, not even so why why would anybody who can't understand Spanish stay tuned in for that?

SPEAKER_04

Right. And also the kind of the the kind of music that it is, like I I I'm sorry, I I don't frequent the club. Yeah, you know what I mean? And and I would also make the argument, of course, the halftime show is going to be geared more towards the viewing audience. But I'm wondering how many people spent an enormous amount of money for Super Bowl tickets and sat there during that con that that halftime show thinking, what the hell is this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's let's go get a ninety dollar beer.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. That's probably what they paid too.

SPEAKER_04

It's probably and again, like and not saying that the guy didn't work his ass off, not saying that the guy wasn't uh uh didn't put on an entertaining show. I just don't know what the hell he was doing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And I didn't watch it. Bad bunny, bad bunny is bad bunny, but there's you know. Whatever.

SPEAKER_03

I heard he was gonna do part of it in a dress.

SPEAKER_04

Weird shit. Uh gender fluid type of vibe about him. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Weird stuff. I don't know. What do you think? He's got anything else? Anything else we want to discuss?

SPEAKER_04

Got a credit card with some room on it and time to go to New York. Let's go. Jimmy's buying.

SPEAKER_03

Technology's come a long way. Now you can just tap their ass with it.

SPEAKER_04

I'm tapping your ass so I can tap that ass.

SPEAKER_01

And we'll leave it at that. Come on. All right. You want to call it? We good? Yeah, I think we've we've put in enough time on this shift. All right. Yeah. All right. For Jim, Tim, and Rich, we're out of here. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to follow us on Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. And uh Spotify or Studio 411. We'll see you all in the next show. We're out of here. Goodbye.