Dragon's Gold: The Magic of Mindset

New Level, New Devil: Jen Conkey on Breaking Free from Limiting Beliefs

• Justin Mills • Season 1 • Episode 27

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Episode Summary:

What if the story you’ve been telling yourself about your worth, your path, your success, is the one thing keeping you stuck?

In this episode of Dragon’s Gold: The Magic of Mindset, Jen Conkey shares how she broke free from the "Core Four" limiting beliefs, rewired her identity, and built a business that changes lives. 

Through stories of personal trials, triumphs, and transformation, Jen shows listeners how to harness their inner fire and create unstoppable momentum.

Key Themes:

  • The Core Four Limiting Beliefs (and how to break them)
  • Rewiring Identity for Sustainable Growth
  • From $150 and No Plan to Real Estate Success
  • Using Regret, Not Fear, as Your Internal GPS
  • Outshining, Playing Small, and Breaking the Pattern
  • Mastering Your Emotional Home and Interrupting Loops
  • Choosing to Be Replanted, Not Rejected

What You’ll Learn:

  • How to shift lifelong patterns rooted in childhood stories
  • Why emotional mastery matters more than external validation
  • What it means to become your own identity architect
  • The mindset tools that help high achievers break through plateaus
  • Why embracing discomfort is the key to everything you want

Tools & Weapons:

  • Core Four Framework: Jen’s system for identifying and breaking limiting beliefs
  • Identity Architecture: The process of designing a new self that aligns with your goals
  • Emotional Mastery: Learning to interrupt emotional loops before they spiral
  • The Gap and the Gain (Book): For shifting from lack to gratitude and momentum
  • Hypnosis & Meditations: Jen’s upcoming membership tools for daily rewiring
  • Unshackled & Liberated Life Events: Transformational experiences for high achievers

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome once again to another episode of Dragon's Gold, the magic of mindset. Today we have the awesome pleasure of having Jen Conkey, a life and business strategist of the Jen Conkey mindset company. Jen, welcome to the show. ah Justin, thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here. We're incredibly excited to have you. so excited to share your story and your journey, but why don't we just dive right in? Let's go to the origin story. Where did it all begin for Jen Conkey? Woo, wow. We're just jumping right in with a big splash. I love it. you know, I'd have to take you all the way back to when I was 10, right? So I grew up with a single mom, a single mom who was trying her best. And by the time I was 10, I mean, she had a drinking problem, we will say, and just trying to cope, you know, and doing her best though at the same time. And money was tight. So there was this one day where I was walking home from elementary school and I hadn't finished my bag of Doritos. I pulled them out and there was these teenagers on the corner of the high school and they said, hey, how much for that bag of Doritos little girl? And I was like, five bucks, you without hesitation and they paid me. And I was, my mind was blown, you know, because this was 1984. I'm aging myself, but I was 10 years old, it 1984 and a bag of Doritos was like 35 cents, right? So, and I just sold it for five bucks. And I knew it was because they had the munchies, if you will, had that funny smell in the air. And back then, you know, it was one of those things that you just knew that when the grownups around you did that, they got hungry. So I saw an opportunity and I went for it. And that was the day that my mindset around money shifted instantly because prior to that, my example of money was that it was hard to come by. You had to work really hard and sometimes it didn't manifest. And so I always just thought, man, life's going to be rough. And that day it shifted everything for me. So that was the day that I realized I had an entrepreneurial spirit and changed my money relationship. which is important as you know. I absolutely do and I love that story. Like so many things to peel back on that. The most important of which is, excuse me, let me say it differently. One of the biggest pieces of which in my mind is the opportunity, right? An opportunity presented itself that you never even knew existed. And when it did, you seized it. And taking that bold action, that immediate, that instant answer of five bucks. Right? You didn't, you didn't do a delay. was an immediate and like a visceral response. And so often in those moments when we take advantage and we seize those opportunities, those can be absolute game changers and in ways that we never expected. Right. So leap of faith that, that moment, is there a moment in particular beyond or where you knew that you were destined for greatness or something more? And, and how did you, step into that. I don't know that it was that moment that was definitely the first of many, but I realized there's a theme in my life when I look back. When you look back at your life and you look at the timeline and you realize you absolutely went all in or did something crazy expecting something different, that was one of those moments. I said five bucks because I wanted to price it high enough to where he might not actually take them and I could keep my Doritos. But when he said yes, it shocked me. wow. So that's when I learned that if you just ask for what you want, you might get it. And the more and more that happened to me, and I think the biggest leap of faith that happened for me when I was 19 years old, and I had an opportunity. I was in a small town, went to high school in a very small town and realized that it just isn't for me. You ever been somewhere and you realize, man, this isn't where I need to be. I don't belong. I'm meant for bigger. uh So I left. I left with $150. Me and my best friend got in our broken down car. It was her broken down car thinking we were just going to drive to Arizona. because I heard these talks of really cool manufacturing jobs and I was like, I'm going to go get one. I had no idea if I was going to get it, but I got in that car with $150. On the way there, we got a flat tire and had to spend a hundred to fix it. So when I arrived, I had 50 bucks, right? 50 bucks in a job interview, that's all I had. And so I think that that was one of my most defining moments because I actually nailed the interview, got the job. And that shifted everything in my life because I started doing things, realizing that when I say I'm going to do something, if I just take that first step, magic follows. And so the 19 year old story of mine, like in my lifetime is probably the biggest one. I had nowhere to live, no job, and now $50 to my name, only 151 I made the leap. And I just started manifesting. I realized it was in that moment that I have this fire ready aim approach to life. which has served me, it served me for a very long time. And now I aim, then get ready and fire. It's a little bit different, but if I don't quite have the time to aim, I'm still gonna fire, you know, no matter what, because I have faith in myself. And I think that that's what the golden magic is there, is to have enough faith in yourself that you'll figure it out. And that's what happened for me that day in that moment. Jen, that's so powerful, especially already taking those steps, going out with 150 bucks. And then before you even get your destination, already being down two thirds, And still not giving up that hope and just believing in yourself. think so much of that is just having that faith and belief in yourself and then taking the action to support it. It sounds like that was uh a trial and we talk about trials and tribulations, moments in our life that are difficult that we have to overcome and the lessons we learn from them. Are there any stories that you would share that you experienced that may impact the listeners? Absolutely. There's four beliefs that we have inherently. Some of us have all of these beliefs. Some of us have one or two, maybe just one. I had all four and they're limiting beliefs. The very first one is feeling like you're fundamentally flawed, like something is just wrong with you. The other one is that the more success I have, the more burden becomes for me. When you think about it, a lot of people say that. I have stories for all of these. Then when you think about outshining other people is bad, right? And then the last one is if you chase your dreams, if those dreams happen to be outside of what your family or your value system of your family or your ancestors were that you're being disloyal and you're abandoning your heritage or where you come from. So for me, I had all four. And when I was born, I heard this story when I was probably about seven years old about my dad being so upset. that he wanted a boy and I was born and he cried in the waiting room. And one day I asked him the question, I was like, dad, heard you, like you cried, you were so disappointed that I was born a girl. And he was like, what are you talking about? And I said, yeah, you my grandparents, told me that, you you had wanted a boy, the baby shower was all about, you know, neutral colors, because you just knew you were having one. And then you came out in the waiting room and you were like, it's a girl, dropped to your knees and cried. And I just thought that that meant you were disappointed. He was like, No, what the heck are you talking about? Now, I had already lived 38 years of my life before asking him this. So I had the chip on my shoulder trying to prove myself that, you girls are just as effective as boys and that I was good enough. So 38 years of going through this actually was 31 if you count the fact that I was seven when I heard it. By the time he told me this, it just shifted things for me. I was like, wait, what? He was like, no, it was a miracle. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know how to raise a girl, but I couldn't believe it. And I was absolutely just Whoa. I was like, okay, well, that was different. I didn't expect that. And I had some more where success is a burden, right? And I was, when I knew about my Doritos story and I knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur, I had my dad who was a very safe, structural army guy, you know, regimented, who was like, no, you've got to go get six figures. You got to go to college. You got to buy a house. You got to do all the things and do the American dream. And I did all of those things only then to figure out that, you know, success is not necessarily more of a burden. There's more responsibility. and you have more accountability to your wake and what you're leaving behind you. But success is amazing and you help more people. So I had to shift that belief as well. And then I also had the outshining is bad. So when I was growing up, I was really good at things physically and I would get them pretty naturally. I was good at dancing. I was good at sports. I was good at spelling to make like this one example. They were like, hey, you need to stop spelling. You're out spelling your older cousins. And was just like the theme, the message was always like, dim your light. Don't make other people feel bad because you're so good at what you do. And it made me play small and that didn't shift from me, Justin, until I was 43. I had always wanted to start my mindset company and go big and help more people, but I always felt like, no, there's already people that do that for others. I mean, what am I really thinking? And then I'll never forget it. was at a Unleash the Power Within event and Jamie Kern Lima was standing in front of me and she said, stop. hiding in plain sight. She looked me dead in my eyes and I felt like, she's talking directly to me. And I had to make some shifts. And had I not made those shifts, had I not heard her talk that day, I probably wouldn't have had the courage to say, you know what, I am just going to go ahead and go play full out and just get out there, spread my message. And ever since I have, I've impacted so many lives, so I'm grateful for that. So all of these beliefs, when that's happening and the disloyalty equals abandonment, the fourth one, I would have to say in 2015 when I told my dad that I was going to retire from corporate America, which I'd been in for 22 years, I had my master's degree making multiple six figures, stock options, the whole nine, he said, are you crazy? And I said, well, no, I'm going to double down on real estate. And he thought I was nuts. And I felt like the black sheep in the family all the way up until that point. And then I spent the last 10 years literally becoming the black swan. I was like the unexpected, amazing event that happened. Even though I left the family's value system of, you know, do all of these things, I don't even own my house, which is a major family value. I decided to rent my house instead of putting a large amount of money down when I could go buy an asset that will cashflow to me. So I just think differently, right? So, and I tend to attract those that think differently. And then because we think differently, we get different results. We get results that most won't. But if you're listening and any of those four limiting beliefs resonate with you, It's time for a shift, to change your relationship with those beliefs. Absolutely and amazing. want to touch on a couple of those points that you just made, because I think there's so much power in what you said. And I would encourage people to go back and listen to that again, just recognizing the idea about your father. this conversation or this comment rather is in regards to perspective, Other people saw and assumed or presumed that he was responding in a certain way. And the reality is that wasn't the truth. It was what they saw. was the truth to them, but it didn't mean it was the truth. And so I think that same theme runs in line with so many pieces. Just because someone else has a belief about something doesn't mean you have to conform to that. And it doesn't mean that it's right. and when you dig in deeper and you ask the questions, that maybe are uncomfortable and that you've based a mindset on throughout your life, whether it be weeks, months, years, like a lifetime. When you ask the hard questions and you find the truth behind it, you can completely shift your perspective and the opinions that come with that. thousand percent. The fire that I have seen from you on a consistent basis is so invigorating. It is inspired me on so many levels. And I love to be able to share this. we talk about moments in our life. And you talk about not outshining. And there's so much in that. But not outshining other people. Don't dim your light. You have your own passion, power, and purpose. whatever that is, you need to share that with the world, Because if you're not, you're, you're not only suffering yourself and you're not only costing yourself opportunity in life and the experience to make those memories, those connections, the growth, the potential success that you may experience, who knows what life you can change in a positive way by sharing that light, that passion, that power, that purpose with someone else. Right. You may literally inspire them in a way that and with your company, I'm sure that you've seen this reciprocated and you've seen the the ripples of it over time. But there are things that you will impact people with that you will never know. And they will go on to do great things and potentially inspire others. And it will continue down and helping to pull pull other people up. Speaking of pulling people up, we talk about the fellowship, the mentors, the allies, the people that go along this journey with us. Who might you say was someone that was inspirational to you in your life and that helped you? You know, it's crazy. have a lot of a lot of people. I think the very first one, I mean, it was this dude named Mike McCarthy that used to work with me in corporate America. I was 21 and he taught me how to think differently, how to make decisions, how to really solve a problem using six different approaches. That was huge. Then it went on to where, you know, I started following Tony Robbins and that's really been the biggest staple. Everything that I've ever learned. or implemented comes from Tony's frameworks and thought process. Then there was Dr. Matt James at the Empowerment Partnership. And I learned NLP from him and hypnotherapy from him, got certified in all of those things. And really he played a role in helping me release all of the pent up anger and frustration of not being good enough, right? Tony taught me that there's two things that we fear the most. And it's the fear of not being good enough and the fear of not being loved. because we're not good enough. And when I met Dr. Matt James, he actually in a training pulled that energetically out of me, which I didn't know was possible, right? So my mind was blown. uh Dr. Joe Dispenza, same thing, study him. uh Quantum, going into the quantum to manifest all of that hypnotherapy that I do, it comes from the masters, right? It comes from those masters. Tony Robbins, Dr. Joe Dispenza, these are people that I highly look up to. I've studied them. I like to study about the human brain and how we're wired and why we do what we do. And they were the first pioneers that I learned from. Bruce Lipton, the power of belief also. So those are people that really shaped me. I would say that Tony Robbins probably shaped me the most and he probably doesn't even know it. But I joined his platinum partnership back in 2021. And I mean, there's millions of people that would say that Tony changed their lives, but he helped me see the one thing that was really holding me back. and was keeping me looping. And that was that I just wanted things to go smooth. I just wanted things to go smooth. Like I make a plan, I'm such a great planner. And then I plan for ABC, Tertiary, all the contingencies, but something always happens, you know? And he was like, Jen, the reason why is because you expect to have no problems. But when you expect to have no problems, well, then you're going to stagnate and you're not going to grow. Problems are a sign of life and they are the reason that you're going to strengthen and you're going to overcome adversity. And it was back in 2021 when this happened. And for me, was like, I realized that there's a resiliency factor within us and how long we can endure hurdle after hurdle after hurdle. We all have a number. And I just every year try to make my number of how many hurdles will I endure. before I start questioning, God, am I supposed to do this? Because we all do that. We assign an unrealistic meaning like, the universe out to get me right now? And my number used to be four. And now it's like 23. Because every time I hit a hurdle and I overcome it, by the time I do that for the 23rd time, I start going, man, maybe I'm not listening to the signs or maybe I'm not supposed to be doing this. But every single time, Justin, I swear, if I just do it one more time, It's like Ed Mylett always talks about the power of one more. Yeah. If I just do it one more time, I get there. Because the truth is the universe is not looking down of all of the souls on the planet thinking, I'm going to go mess with Jen Conkey today. That's just not how it works. So it took me a while to realize that, yeah, we all have a number. We all have a threshold where after we hit a certain number, obstacle number 10, we might lose our crap, we might get enraged, frustration becomes rage. And maybe for some people it doesn't, but for me, that's my home emotion is irritation, frustration, anger, rage. And that's my cycle that I just personally for my life have had to figure out how to not let that get away from me and how to acknowledge when it's happening, the feeling when it's rising in my body, because when it does, If I can stop it and pattern interrupt it and move to something different, I get a much better result. But if I follow that chain of events, then I start to, you know, spiral out of control, have the bad thoughts and the inner monologue, and I don't take action. So the way that I move through that is I ask myself in those moments when I start to feel it rise up, because I know the feeling. It starts in the belly area and comes up through the diaphragm, and by the time it's hot right here, I have to stop. You know, I have to pattern interrupt myself, make a swift movement, go for a walk, change my focus. And what I've realized is by doing that, I'm conditioning myself to rewire to a new pattern, which is why I think I've gone from four to 24. And when we do those and we change the emotion that we're seeking, it's like a safe place. I know that if I get irritated, frustrated, angry and rage, I'm going to like push through and bulldoze through. But that's not always the right approach. It's like having a hammer and all problems are nails. It's not always the right tool. So when we can master our own response to things and just sit there and reflect, stop the pattern and think about, okay, I need to ask more effective questions. Not why is this happening to me, but what do I need to do next? What information that if I had it would give me the clarity that I need to take the next step to move towards solution. And the way that I do that is in that moment I ask about What would I regret if I didn't go forward with this? What would be my biggest regret? And I conditioned myself to listen to the voice of regret versus the voice of fear. Because the voice of fear says, well, what if you fail? What if it doesn't work? What if, what if, what if? You go, what if the crap out of yourself and still stay stuck with the same problem and no solution? But if I personally lean into what is the voice of regret saying to me? Well, it's saying, Jen, if you don't go for this in 10 years, are you going to turn around and look back at now and say, God, I really wish I would have went for it. I wish I would have had the courage. And when I can talk to myself that way, I get leverage and then I act. And I learned that from Tony, from Joe Dispenza, and from Dr. Matt James. Those are the three that really shaped me. Fantastic and inspirational people to learn from no doubt and and I agree I So many lessons I myself have learned and even just talking with you and hearing bringing that back you talk about the the regret like there's the you have two pains right the pain of regret or the pain of Discipline you got to choose one right something one of those is gonna happen and so taking the steps being disciplined enough to understand how your emotions make you feel understanding what and yours may be Equaling to rage other people may become despondent. There may be things where people have apathy like whatever whatever it is that isn't allowing them to move forward Recognizing that and then understanding how to shift the narrative internally to be able to push themselves forward Mastery of your own self is The most important thing my opinion but based on on research I've done and I only mention this because you talk about those inspiring mentors I recognize these are lessons that are consistently shared amongst those people. And so when we talk about those lessons that are learned, you learn little bits or big bits, pieces from different people, and not every one person has the right answer. But when you take these lessons that help you along the way and you make it your own based on all of the pieces that come together, You form your own belief system and then you take action on that. And benefits that come from that are incredibly powerful. We talk about benefits and rewards. I call this dragon's gold. The things that have come about in our experiences, the mindset shifts, whether it's material or whether it's emotional, whatever it may be, what are some of the things that you've gained in your life that you would call Dragon's Gold. for me, it's absolutely the impact that I can have on others and that ripple effect. I don't know. It's it's addicting. It gives a really good feeling. em When I see others that were looping in a behavior that they, that at one point that, that pattern served them and it worked really well, but now it worked to the point where they've, you know, they hit a new level, new level, new devil. So now you need different behaviors, different beliefs to get you to the next level. And that's what I really help people with. an identity architect. So when you step into your new identity and you crush it for 18 months, you'd be surprised at how much you change fundamentally. You change in how you see the world, how you see yourself, how you see others, how you manifest results. And now you're at this new place doing the same things that got you there, but what got you here won't get you there. And so my biggest superpower is to come in and identify, well, where is it that you want to go? What identity? is needed to get there. And then how can we rewire the beliefs and look at what are some of the rules that are operating within you that get you to that next level that we might need to rewire and rewrite, if you will, so that you can ascend to the next level. For me, watching that process, it's so rewarding because I watch them transform into a different person within six months, 12 months, 18 months, 24 months. They are on a whole other like vibrational planets, you will, producing and they're in a peak state. And I love to watch people learn how to master their emotion in that point, because what happens is they get frustrated, they struggle or they withdraw and they resist and they're afraid. And I literally just help them reshape themselves. And that process is so beautiful. And like six months in, I have them turn around and look at who they used to be. And they're just... they're in shock, they're in awe. We might even go watch an old video from an old call or look at old notes from an old call. remember when this was your belief and this was your limitation and now you've got these bigger problems, but you're ready for them? That to me is just, it's amazing because then it cascades, it cascades to their kids, their wives, their husbands, their people, their family. It's just this ripple effect that I feel extremely elated about because I feel like it's my personal goal to raise the vibration of the earth. a powerful goal and benefiting a lot of people. I'm really benefiting the world. To get to that point and understand and have that kind of goal, it can't have been easy. One of the things we talk about in this, and I'd love if you could share, is the darkest hour. A moment where you yourself were ready to throw in the towel, like ostrich head in the sand, just try and make it all go away. Is there a moment that you would share that impacted you? Yeah, you know, I already shared the moment about my dad about feeling like I wasn't good enough. Like I was born fundamentally flawed. The reason why I had the courage to ask him that question that day is because I was going through a terrible divorce. A divorce where the person that I was married to, you know, I wasn't good enough for them anymore. And so it hit, it like, man, it brought me to my knees. What do you mean? Like I was, I'm not good enough for you. I wasn't good enough for my dad. I wasn't good enough for my mom because she drank all the time. What the hell this must end. And because it brought me to my knees, I got to the point where I was like, I need more answers. I need more clarity. And I need to figure out what do I need to shift so that I feel enough instead of validating through others thinking I'm enough. And so I just, when you're that low, when you're at what I call ground zero and there's nowhere to go but fight through, it was a little bit of a no brainer for me to just ask him. I wanted to get as much clarity and as much feedback as I could. Because if I could validate that that was their view, their projection, but I still felt like I was a good person and adding value and contributing to the world and being a good human, then I knew that I could find myself again, because I felt like I lost myself. So when I asked him that question, he was like, no, this is what actually happened. This is what I was feeling. I was like, okay, so is it possible that I'm assigning the meaning that I'm not good enough about her? And the truth is, that's what it was. It wasn't about me. You know that old line when they go to break up with you and it's like, it's not you, it's me. And you think to yourself, that's such crap. It's got to be about me. Well, that's where I was. And even though the message wasn't that it was me, I heard it was me. That's the meaning I signed because that had been my previous story. So it was in that moment when I asked my dad, the story started to shift. that inner... monologue, that inner story inside of me, it started to shift because it started to, like the narrative started to crumble. It no longer made sense. So if I wasn't viewed as not good enough to him, then maybe it's possible that wasn't the same thing for my mom, which I had been going and learning about how the brain works and human behavior since I was 20 years old. Right? So it's been 30 years now. And all of that started because my mom had a drinking. She drank all the time and lost her house. We lived in a car. There were all these hurdles that I faced as a child that I'm pretty sure is what made me be so tenacious and so resilient. But I just knew I never wanted to end up like that. Right. And I also in my mind decided and I didn't realize it until I was 38 years old, but I decided that, my mom must think that I'm not good enough. And that's why she's off doing those things. But the truth is, Justin, it really had nothing to do with me at all for either three. My mom was going through her own things, her own problem, doing the best she could. It had nothing to do with me. She just couldn't come out of her. loop, right? So I decided when I was 20 that I was going to figure out how humans loop and how that could be uh tragic sometimes, how it could be self-sabotaging at sometimes and how can I get them out of it. And then with my dad, it was, well, you know, he really wanted a boy. So I'm just going to make sure he wanted a high achiever. He wanted things to happen and be in sports. And so I just did all of those things. And then when I was 38, I found out that's not in fact what he wanted. And then with my ex-wife, was a matter of, it wasn't about me, it was about her and what she could handle, what she was coping with and what she was going through. So what I've learned in my 50 years of life on this planet is that no matter how low, how dark it seems, sometimes it doesn't mean that you're alone. It means that you just got replanted. And I got replanted that day and I got the clarity that I needed. And with that clarity came the water. and the soil and everything started to grow. And I became a different person because I recognized who I fundamentally was the whole time. And then I started to build upon that and I created a new identity of, know what, I am good enough. I am not flawed. I'm "flaw-some" and I will shine bright. I'm going to help everybody as much as I can because that feels good to me and it feels good to the world. And I made it a personal mission that if anybody's feeling like they're in the dark and it just means that you just got replanted and that means there's nowhere to go but up. And when you have that perspective, like anything is possible. And that's back when I rewired myself to believe that anything is possible and everything I have within me to get there is within me now. Like I can get there. Those beliefs just reshaped me. But in your darkest times, you got to look around and ask yourself, am I really alone right now? Or do I need to be alone right now? Or have I been replanted? And if I was replanted, God, what plant do I want to be? It's like an empty canvas. It's fricking beautiful. so much opportunity and growth and you can literally create anything that you want. When you were talking about your students and being able to show them months back, I thought exactly that. You're helping them to regrow. They're literally growing and pain is just a reality, whether it be emotional or physical, but it's a reality that oftentimes is required that we have to grow through. pressure that makes diamonds, right? It's the things that we have to push ourselves through, the hurdles that we have to overcome, and then the lessons that we learn along the way that build the foundation for us to be able to continue moving forward from. think that so much about what you've shared so far, Jen, and thank you for all you've said. I think so much about what you've said comes back to the idea about mindset. And obviously this podcast is completely about that. Your coaching program is completely about that. I think that when people recognize how much true power they have over themselves and over all of the events, people can see the same event through a different perspective, right? Perception and perspective, the view we see it from, but the lens we see it through. And if you can find the way to shift your lens, to see these moments through a different light and use those as the opportunities of growth, the water for the soil to grow from, If you can find the way to give these moments meaning and use them as a springboard to catapult you into these new amazing opportunities of your life, I think that there's so much of a gift in the stories that you've shared and I'm really thankful for that. It's awesome. I'd like to ask, we call this the Hall of Heroes. ah If there was a massive statue of Jen Conkey and it had a plaque on there that say anything that you wanted to share, what would you want it to say? Woo. That's such a good, so hard. How long can it be? How many characters do I get? Yeah. That thing can be a scroll that just rolls like whatever you want to say. It would say the magic you're looking for is in the work you're avoiding. Yeah, definitely. that everything you want's on the other side of that fear. So as soon as you act, momentum, momentum, it kicks in and then you get what you want. uh But yeah, it would definitely have to be that. The magic that you're looking for is on the other side of the work that you're not doing. And as soon as you do it, the magic will appear. feel so often, Jen, that we know what that is. And maybe you don't always, but so often you know what you need to do. It's just taking the action to do it. And oftentimes it's uncomfortable. Whether it's just not where you want to put your focus or attention, but you know that it's the thing that you need to do to get to the next level, right? Absolutely. And you know what, Justin and I'm going to change what I want to say, just based on what you just said. I would have that statue say this, think of your goal that you think is absolutely impossible and then ask yourself, what must I do that I don't want to do in order to achieve that goal? Then do that. And the goal is yours. That's what my statue would say, because it's facts. love that. So good, Jen. So good. What's next? What's the next quest for Jen Conkey? Well, right now, uh the Jen Conkey Mindset Company is putting together my annual Unshackled event, which is November 7th through the 10th. So we're getting ready for that. And also in August, I have a Liberated Life event. It's a summit, a virtual summit in August. So we're just putting all these events together to try and help people. And then I'm also developing my Mindset membership. So I'm gonna have a monthly membership that just releases hypnosis and some trainings and meditations and things to help you achieve peak performance, peak mindset, and so that you can achieve your unparalleled success. So those are all the things that I'm creating right now. And in the meantime, I'm just raising a whole bunch of capital for real estate. So if people do, and I'm sure they do, I myself am interested. I'm going to join that unshackled event for sure. I want to ask if anyone else wants to reach out to you, how can they connect with you? the best place is just to go to jenconkey.com. It's J-E-N-C-O-N-K-E-Y.com. You can opt in for newsletter emails or you can go to the events part page. And on the events page, it has the unshackled events. You could check it out. Right now there's early bird going on, so that's fun. Awesome, I will be that. So we talk about tools and weapons. Now you've been gracious enough to share some of the things that have inspired you, but citing any particular resources, books, events, things that you've done, is there anything you would share that might inspire the listeners and that they may be able to take advantage of as well? You know, one of the biggest books that I love for people to look at and read, if they're too focused, if they're high achievers like I am, one of the biggest things that I do, because I'm always looking for a goal and then I'm constantly assessing, well, here's where I want to be and here's where I am and there's this big gap. And then I'll fixate on the gap. And anytime we fixate on the gap, we're suffering. But if we fixate on the gains and how far we've already come, it's different. It's a different experience. So there's a book out there called The Gap or The Gain, I believe it is. The Gap and The Gain, yeah. em It's a great book and I listened to it on Audible, but it really just the message in it is to focus on every day, focus on the gains that you had yesterday, the gains that you've had for the week, the month, the year. And my God, how much have you accomplished in a year, two years, five years? And when you look at yourself from 10 years ago, are you completely different? and how much gains have you had in your life? And when you focus on that, the attitude of gratitude starts to develop and then your vibrational frequency raises and you start to attract more of it versus anytime you're focused on the gap of, God, this is still everything I have to do. Man, instead shift the language to this is what I get to do because as soon as I do it, not only is it gonna help myself, help people and help the mission, but it's gonna help close that gap to get to the goal that I have. And so that book, just, you I read it three years ago and it really stuck. And so it changed how I am in the morning and what my focus is first thing. And my first focus is, wow, it's been a good ride so far and here's all the gains, you know? And just stacking those gains puts me in a different mood. And that mood increases my vibe. That vibe attracts more good vibe. So it's a good book. I love that book. Fantastic, thank you. I think about when you said how it shifts how you act in the morning. You inspired me. I've always been an early riser, but I don't hit the snooze button anymore. And I will tell you that you actually really helped me with that. without going too far into it, you have that moment where each of us has that, that's something you do right when you hop up and you do it to encourage. uh I had to be careful because I was waking up my wife. I get up and do it just uh being so excited. So now I come in to the game room and I do it in here. ah But I just push myself and I just I want to say that you have been incredibly inspiring to me along my journey. And I want to thank you for that. Thank you for letting me know that. It's always good to hear. mean it from my heart so thank you. So I have one final question I'd like to ask and this is my favorite question. If you could be any mythical creature what would you be and why? Whew. Hold on, I gotta think about it. A mythical creature. God, see the first thing that came to mind is Gryffindor. I don't know if that's Harry Potter or not, but it's like a lion that flies and that's pretty cool. Like you get to be the king of the jungle in the air. uh Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with, it was between Gryffindor or Unicorn, but I feel like Gryffindor is a little bit more badassery and that's me. I love it ah very much so. And it's funny, I will mention this because you commented on uh Unicorn and earlier I thought about that during the process, how what you had shared and it all comes back down again to perspective, right? And so you can think anything you want. is your playground, your mind is your playground and you can do anything you want with it. And literally by simply shifting perspective, And that's what I thought about earlier when you had shared something is that I was like, you were like a unicorn. And so I love griffins too. So I think it's awesome, but uh I just wanted to acknowledge that that had come up in my mind earlier as well. And I just, think that you're an incredibly unique individual in such a positive way. And I think that you are inspiring and will continue to inspire so many people to achieve their own success. So. I just on behalf of both myself and all the untold people that will benefit from your experiences, lessons in life and love. Thank you. Jen Conkey. Thank you very much, Justin. This has been awesome. it's been a pleasure to have you. Thank you, my friends, for joining us once again on our quest to inspire, educate, and empower you to turn your dreams into reality, one mindset shift at a time. We'll see you next time.

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Justin Mills

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Jen Conkey

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