Mottos

Do you have a personal motto? Should you? We think it's fine. After all, nothing matters... but music. Join us this week as we dive into the songs we utilize as our personal mottos of sorts.

SONGS:

Bomba Estéreo: Soy Yo (2015)  

Charli XCX: Twice (2022)

RESOURCES AND REFERENCES:

Merrell Wrapt (POOG 20% OFF: HAGFOOT20) 

Bomba Estereo: Huepaje (2005)

NPR with Bomba Estéreo Founder Simón Mejía about So Yo 

How #NiUnaMenos Grew from the Streets of Argentina into a Regional Women’s Movement (NPR)

So Yo Grubhub Commercial (2020)

Bomba Estéreo Collabs:

Bomba Estéreo & Will Smith - Fiesta (Remix) 

Bomba Estéreo ft. Balkan Beat Box - Química  

Bad Bunny (ft. Bomba Estéreo) - Ojitos Lindos  

Bomba  Estéreo & Manu Chau - Me Duele 

Sofi Tukker & Bomba Estéreo - Playa Grande

Charli XCX - Twice links

Predatory Wasp - Twice

Charli XCX Apple Music Interview

Buddhism: Basic Beliefs

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:04

Hi, I'm Christina.

SPEAKER_02 0:05

And I'm Christine. Welcome to Stereo Thematica.

SPEAKER_03 0:08

Music is how we connect with the world and with each other. When I moved to Texas, Christina and I started a weekly game. One theme, two songs.

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That game grew into deeper conversations about each other and about the music that shapes us.

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Each week we share our picks, swap stories, and dig into tracks you might love or never expect.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

Christina, I have to tell you. Tell me. I'm going full hag today.

SPEAKER_03 0:35

Oh my god, I love a full hag.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

Do you think our listeners know what a hag is? I think we have to tell them. Do you want to do you want to tell them? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Some years ago, my friend told me about this. I think we have talked about Poog on the podcast. Poog is a no longer a podcast, but it's the former podcast of Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak, who now have a new podcast, Berlant and Novak, but their followers are the Hags. And I think we're both like, we're hags.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

Yeah, it's it's kind of an unfortunate nickname, but Oh, I love it. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm embracing it. Okay. Yeah. So, okay. So knowing that, everyone, Christina, you do you want to guess what this is about?

SPEAKER_03 1:16

Is it about a recent purchase that you made? Yes. Uh, that was a recommendation by Kate and or Jacqueline. I haven't gotten to that episode yet.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Okay. So, well, first, the other thing I want to say is I'm a little amped up because I've also had half a Celsius. Oh my gosh. Which, of course, famously around lunchtime. Oh my gosh. So, um, yes, it's a pod favorite. Jacqueline Novak seems to drink it. I don't know if she still does, but back in the Poog days, it was a big deal, and that's where I learned about it. And you still haven't had one, have you? You gave me one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:54

I do think I drank it. I do think I did. I do remember having some heart palpitations. And but I feel like we did talk about in the podcast. My favorite thing was that you presented it to me as a ghost outside of my office, which was really amazing.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

I think you shared some screenshots too on Instagram at one point of various references to Celsius over our friendship.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

Yes, that's right, because you you drink it more than I do. What flavor do you like?

SPEAKER_02 2:22

The watermelon's really good, but I can only handle about a half.

SPEAKER_03 2:26

A half one. Yeah. And then the rest you donate to the sink.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

I no, I I put a little bit of foil on top of it and keep it in there. And and these days, like Thomas usually likes to have a Nespresso in the afternoon because he's so European. But our Nespresso machine is is currently out of order. So he um he'll have a sip of that and that'll be his little pick-me-up.

SPEAKER_03 2:51

The the Europeans are shaking their fists. They're having a mama. Oh no. We're getting a cancel.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Incredible. Okay, but what did you get? Okay, so actually, it was a Meryl shoe that they recommended. It's called The Wrapped, and I'm totally enraptured by it. It's the most comfortable shoe I've ever had. And I'm like dying to go walking after this episode. Damn, are you going to? Is the weather nice? Oh, yeah. It's too hot, of course. LA. Yeah. It's in the spring, early spring. Is it even spring?

SPEAKER_03 3:27

I would venture to say we're on the verge of spring. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

But yeah, it's it's definitely too hot for this time of the year. But yeah, so I got it. So comfortable and they look nice.

SPEAKER_03 3:40

Okay. A podcast influenced you to buy multiple things. Yes. I like that. Maybe I I like we don't have any promo codes, but it would be we'll we'll pass on theirs. Why not?

SPEAKER_02 3:54

So, so sorry for that digression, but I'm just very excited about these shoes.

SPEAKER_03 3:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

And I I've been people who know me know that I've been looking for a good walking shoe for two years.

SPEAKER_03 4:08

So damn, it's been that long. You put it out there, no one delivered except Kate and Jaclyn. Thank you. Kate and Jacqueline, reach out. Yes, please. We'd like to be your friends.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

Yes. So, okay. New question. If Stereo Thematica had a motto, what do you think it would be?

SPEAKER_03 4:26

Ooh, that's a really good question. I feel like you have something in mind. So tell me.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Well, I I think we have a few. I think one of the things we've said a lot, nothing matters, but music.

SPEAKER_03 4:37

Amen to that, sis.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Music makes you honest.

SPEAKER_03 4:40

Oh, that's a really good one.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Music is therapy.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

Music is therapy.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:45

There are no bad answers to what you like.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Is that is that your motto?

SPEAKER_03 4:52

Well, I'm just kind of thinking like uh maybe our our specific motto could also be don't yuck my yum.

SPEAKER_02 4:59

Oh yeah. Even though I don't think we like either.

SPEAKER_03 5:02

I literally hate that.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

Okay, it's growth.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

It is terrible.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Why is the sentiment the sentiment is good, but the the yz, the yuck and the yum is is just yeah, together it's bad. No, it's very off-putting. But I hate reducing complicated feelings to a model. You know, it can feel very reductive, but sometimes the shorthand is helpful. I think we've talked about this a lot. I've spent much of my life trying to figure out what was required of me. A lot of observing, TV, watching, reading, music, people watching, deciphering, a lot of fixing and apologizing, a lot of over-correcting. My first therapist called me hypervigilant. And get this a third grade classmate called me a people pleaser. In third grade? How do I even know what that means? I remember her name. She's the only person I remember because that stuck with me.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

Name names. Sherry Miller. Wow, Sherry. Where is she now?

SPEAKER_02 6:04

I know.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

I mean, it's if you had a LinkedIn, you could look her up. Sherry Miller, reach out.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

Sherry Miller, you cursed me. Or maybe, no, maybe you you um held a mirror. Yeah, I don't know. Kind of saved me in a way. I don't we'll see. But by high school, I'd I'd made some peace with the fact that I was a little weird and that some people actually appreciate that. But even when I felt okay about who I was, I was still hyper aware of how I was perceived. And I I know that you know that that could be stifling. Tremendously. Yeah. So I rehearsed a lot, I scripted, I researched, I prepared, I still do all that. And and I doubt, yeah, that's ever gonna change. That's just so much a part of who I am. But sometimes, like even something as simple as a motto, a mantra, can kind of help you stay centered when you start to wobble. Do you feel that way, Christina? At all? 100%.

SPEAKER_03 7:06

Yeah, and sometimes it can even just be like, you got this, or fuck it.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

Yeah, no, sometimes the simpler the better.

SPEAKER_03 7:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Well, for me, there's a song, of course, there's always a song that brings me back to the center. It's a little on the nose for today's theme, which is mottos or anthems, but I prefer mottos. The song is Soyo, which means I'm me or it's me by the Colombian band Bomba Estere.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

Soyo.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

Okay, dying to know, because I don't think we talked about this.

SPEAKER_03 7:52

Did you like it? Did you know it? Definitely liked the song. I don't know if I was familiar with it before you shared it with me. I do know Bomba Stereo. Sorry for saying it that way, but um, now I'm embarrassed because I didn't watch the video. I was like, to-do list. You have to watch the video.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

This is one of those cases where everyone, again, stop, go watch the video. Unless you're driving. Yeah, you shouldn't do it while you're driving, definitely not.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

Probably not. If someone else is driving you, and it's a it's a nice video.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

Like you wanna like it's it's well shot, it's very cute. Anyway, so it opens with this young, nerdy, awkward Latina girl, think like ugly Betty. She's she's leaving the hair salon. She's very proud of her hairdo, which is a little wacky. And um, she's she's confidently walking through the streets of Brooklyn, not Columbia, but she's dancing off beat, playing the flute very badly, and she's staring down bullies. And the song itself is pretty straightforward and super catchy. The lead singer, Lee Somet, is singing, rapping. Don't worry if they approve of you. When they criticize you, just say it's me. It's very Popeye, I am what I am, and very Gloria Gainer, of course. She's saying, I keep walking and I keep laughing, I do what I want, and I die trying. Nobody cares what I'm doing. The only thing that matters is what's inside. Does this remind you of another song we've talked about?

SPEAKER_03 9:26

Yes, definitely. And I actually keep thinking of the other song in place of this song whenever I've been like preparing for this episode. Oh so I know you know what's on the thing of.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

I know. So a little similar, but um Aquien Le Importa by the Spanish group, Alaska y Dinarama, very much in this self-empowerment camp.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Totally. And I will just say that song made a really big impression on me, and I sing it to myself whenever I need the like, you know, helping myself.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

I'm so happy. Yeah, thank you. And that that's that's definitely a motto on what did we oh, that was for yeah, two our enemies. Yeah. So same thing, basically. I mean, this one could be two our enemies too. True. But I actually I want to take a second to thank my cousin Kristen for sending me this song back in 2019. Kristen, over the years, has shared several life-changing songs and books, and she's also one of our most engaged listeners. Oh. And she always has more than a few songs to share per theme each week. So thank you, Kristen, and keep them coming. But back to the band. So the band was formed by Simone Mejia in Bogota around 2005 as a solo project with Lee rapping on one of the songs Wepaje. And by the time the second album came out in 2008, Somet was already lead on vocals and they turned into a full band, fusing Colombian rhythms with electronic music, basically like psychedelic cumbia, which is really cool. Yeah. Yeah. What so when did do you remember like when you got into that? Or not that you're into them, but like I remember.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

You had into them in college, yeah. Just kind of seeking it out, like wanting to have more, and sorry to use this term, but like world music in my like repertoire. Cause you know that I love reggaeton. Yeah, I started to reggaeton, probably when I was in like and you always have to say reggaeton. You have to, because what am I? I'm not I like reggaeton. Like I already struggle enough being this like Yankee, but yeah, I I checked him out.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

Yeah, college. Okay, cool. So Soyo came out during a time when Latin American feminist movements were rising and conversations around machismo were intensifying. In 2015, there was the Niunamas, not one woman less campaign, which erupted in Argentina to fight gender-based violence and femicide. Do you remember? Are you are we familiar?

SPEAKER_03 11:58

Yeah. That was when I was working pretty closely with the study abroad program in Argentina. So wow. So I was like working with students while they were like attending some of these protests and reporting back about it. And actually, just as an aside, one of my colleagues just shared with me that really recently they have discovered a and it's so sad, but it's like a mass burial in Argentina, a mass burial site at La Perla, which is like one of the most notorious places where people were disappeared during the dictatorship in Argentina, and like it's going to give hopefully give some families a lot of closure. And like it's just it's crazy that that was something that has just happened in 2026, considering how long it's been.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

Anyway, sorry to harsh the vibe. Yeah, no, I I think I think that was appropriate for the moment. So thank you for that. No, I have to admit that as much as I love this song, I wasn't a huge fan of the other songs on the album. But you know who was? Who? Mr. Getting Jiggy with it. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 13:09

Will Smith. He loved their song Fiesta so much that he did a remix of it with them.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Yeah. Did you know that? No.

SPEAKER_03 13:18

No. Yeah. I'm not an actual Will Smith fan, but you know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

If you're questioning we'll we'll figure it out one day. Yeah. But it it was actually his first musical recording in about a decade, and he rapped in both English and Spanish. Dolly Will. Yeah, right. Yeah. And Bomba's also collaborated with Bad Bunny. Nice. They were featured on his Ojitos Lindos, and they worked with Balkan Beatbox. That was a big band that I was into. I bet. Yeah. Based on the name alone. Oh saw them a few times in LA. Tracks. Uh lots of fun. Manu Chow, of course, and with another podcast favorite, Sophie Tucker. Sick. Yep. And there was almost a Brian Eno connection here too.

SPEAKER_03 14:09

Where is he not?

SPEAKER_02 14:10

Okay. So Simone Mejia, the founder, he's actually no longer with Bomba, but he was selected as one of three finalists for the 2010-2011 Rolex Mentor and Protege Arts Initiative. Oh my goodness. To spend a year. Yeah. Well, so this was this program, I guess you get to spend a year working with our friend Brian Eno. Can you believe that?

SPEAKER_03 14:37

Like mad libs, everything you just said. It's insane. I'm not even joking. Where did this all take place? On the moon? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Alas, he lost out to Ben Frost. And so we don't have that connection.

SPEAKER_03 14:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

But maybe that's our show's motto. Brian Eno is everywhere. He's he's definitely been mentioned a lot here. But speaking of a certain artist being everywhere, Christina, what is your motto song?

SPEAKER_03 15:10

Before we transition, I just think that's such a cool motto song. Like we should all be so comfortable being who we are, but sometimes it can be a little bit hard. And thank you for introducing, you know, or introducing or reintroducing me to Soyo, because it's very cool. And as I have, you know, the listener must know we have to prepare a little bit, like usually via text, like when we're getting our stuff ready. And I said, can't wait to get roasted by you in this episode, Christine, because I know it's coming and I'm prepared. I'm I'm mentally preparing for it. But I don't want to yuck your yum. Hey, that's fine. Thank you. And the truth is, like, our past and our presence are so similar in so many ways. And I too have been called hyper-vigilant by a therapist. And I know I'm weird and I have been forever. And while sometimes I love and celebrate that, sometimes it overwhelms me. And I'm kind of like constantly asking my therapist, like, what is normal? And you know, she hits me with a there's no such thing as normal, which I know deep down in my heart, I know that's true, but sometimes it it really feels so overwhelming that everyone is aware of some universal truth that I don't know, and that can feel a little bit isolating sometimes. Yeah. But that's why it's important to me that I picked this song for my motto. And yes, it even meant rewriting Stereothematica history to do a switcheroo for another episode, which I don't think I've I know you haven't done it, but I don't think I've done it yet. So, you know, I'll hold off on talking about that until the other episode comes because the important thing, my song selection for day, is twice by my girl Charlie XCX from her 2022 album Crash.

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Don't think, twice, don't think, twice, don't don't, don't think, twice, don't think about it. Don't think, twice, don't think, twice, don't don't don't think, twice, don't think.

SPEAKER_00 17:17

There's a gun much.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

What do you think, Christine? I mean, you can give me the abbreviated version of my roasting right now.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Uh, I will say I could like a song in its sentiments and eat lyrics and not feel the music at all. That's what I'll say about okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

I love it. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

I listened to it once in its entirety. And I focused on the lyrics.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

Okay, there you go. That's that's the way to do it. And I will say for anyone who already knows the song or who's gonna listen to it for the first time, I hate the ending to this song. Oh, it ends so badly. And like, I actually have this critique about multiple Charlie XEX songs, not not always the ending, but there's always one little part that I would tweak to make it a really good song. And like, this is one of the songs where I'm like, if they just cut out maybe the last 30 seconds, it would be way better.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

Okay, okay. This is weird because I kind of like the interesting. It picked up and gave me something that I I I can't say like exactly what that was, but it it definitely picked up and and shifted from this more like poppy. I don't even know what to call this type of mirror. Okay. But I I did like the ending. I'll just I'll leave it at that.

SPEAKER_03 18:44

Interesting. Again, my foil over here is this important for us. But I will share a little bit about why this song is my motto because the name doesn't give it away. I love this song from the first time I heard it because it so succinctly captures a feeling and a sentiment that I really relate to. Again, don't think twice, like, which is so funny because I am a truly notorious overthinker. So, in reality, it's an aspirational motto for me. People who know me know that I have two wolves inside of me, and one is wildly overthinking while the other is saying, Fuck it, let's have fun. And wolf number two. Yeah, oh, a hundred percent. Like you are somebody who has had a front row seat to my overthinking and my true fuck it moments. So yeah, wolf number two, this is my motto song. I hope it's okay for us to discuss on the podcast because I know that you and I talk about this a lot in our friendship, but death. I'm very much not afraid of death, but I suppose I mean like the state of no longer living, not the act of dying. It's just to me, death is the end of being. And that's what this song is saying, in my opinion. So Charlie croons over, you know, the upbeat poppy tune. All the things I love are gonna leave me. One day you'll never you're never gonna be there. I tell myself to take it easy, don't think twice about it, baby. And I think I love that there's a pop song out there that's reminding folks that life is temporary and to have fun, don't overthink everything. I mean, I do think in reality most pop songs are advocating for fun, but few are really saying you're going to die, so you might as well have fun now.

SPEAKER_04 20:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:25

But maybe Drake's the motto. I don't know. Are you familiar with that?

SPEAKER_02 20:29

Oh no, I'm not. There's a song called The Motto.

SPEAKER_03 20:31

Yeah, by Drake. And his motto is YOLO, you only live once. Oh wow, is that how that got started? Yes, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

I still have to Google what that means.

SPEAKER_03 20:44

I mean, you just said it, but well, that's what's so funny is like when that came out, it was almost it was so like YOLO. Like, I know me and my friends at least were like YOLO, like saying YOLO all the time. Unfortunately, I still say YOLO a lot because I think it's funny and YOLO lives on, even though Drake is cancelled.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

Up on the hill, I say it about it. I think about my best friends, till then I'm diving off the tape, but don't think twice about it.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

While researching for this episode, I read a somewhat searing review of this album, Crash, uh, on a music blog called Predatory Wasp, which I have to assume is a Sufion Stevens reference. Real ones, no. Wait, I want to know. Sorry. Okay, so I'm not a real one. Well, that's okay. Soofy on Stevens had a song called The Predatory Wasp of the Palisades, and I'm guessing that this is I I it's a true guess. Like, why why else would you have a musical called Predatory Wasp? I'm gonna link to that. Please don't worry. Predatory Wasp writer, reach out. Let's talk about Sad Girl Emo together. Anyway, so here's what they say for 30 minutes, i.e., 90% of its running time, Charlie X's new album, Crash, is a crushing disappointment. And then when all hope seems to be lost, we have album closer twice, which is Vintage Charlie, introspective yet effervescent pop, which bangs hard and makes you cry at the same time. The hype train clearly has addled the critical faculties of more than one reviewer, but twice demonstrates that when she's on form, no one does this kind of stuff better. And like, fair enough, I don't love every song on this album, although I did listen to it a lot after I was introduced to Charlie X at that concert. And the funny thing is about this song in particular, on top of being like, to me, a pop banger, I feel like there's this Buddhist element to this song. Yeah, for me. Yes, yes, totally. Like it's I'm saying this as a completely a religious person. I'm a devout atheist, so please take this all with a grain of salt. I don't haven't studied Buddhism or anything, but it kind of leans into that universal truth of impermanence, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Yeah. I almost said something at the top with me, but I figured you might get into it.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

That's funny. I mean, it like even after the first few times that I listened to it, I felt very much like, yeah, like let go of your earthly ties and whatnot. But like I wanted to look for validation, I couldn't really find much. And did find somebody on Reddit who said, I like to think of twice as my Buddhist bop. So there you go.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Yeah. No, I I love that. I mean, it's funny because I mean another song that I wouldn't really call it a pop song, but Quicksand, Boys Quicksand, also has has that bit. But I don't want to get into that because I know we will talk about Quicksand in another episode.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

Oh, good, good, good. And like I don't think Charlie XCX is religious either, but her mom is Indian. She's Gujrati. So perhaps some of the Eastern influences have made their way into her music. But again, Charlie fans will know that one of her bigger hits from I think 2024 from Brat was Apple, which has like intense Eve overtones, you know, Apple and the Forbidden Fruit. Okay anyway. So maybe she's just a good lyricist and pulls from what's around her. So love, everyone can always interpret songs as they wish. That is what art is here for. Even if someone says this is what my piece means to me, yeah, you can take whatever you want from it. Exactly. And speaking of how she interprets her own art, I learned while researching for this episode that there's a lot of sadness behind this song. And in Charlie's words, it's about the end of the world and killing yourself. And she says it's inspired by that Lars Mellantrier film Melancholia. Have we spoken about this film before?

SPEAKER_02 24:35

Only maybe in the sense that we've talked about Kirsten Dunst, but I don't think we have. And I don't actually think I've seen this. I've seen several of those other films, but not this one. I because I was like, I wanted to jog my memory. And so I looked up to find a clip of this, and I'm like, I don't remember seeing this ever. So must have been talking about it with another Christine.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

I am surprised because I think when I saw this movie, I don't know if it came out when I was like 23 or 24. I don't remember my age, but I had a full-on meltdown. I saw it in the movie theater and I was crying so much that I couldn't leave. Oh wow. Like I had to lay across several chairs to cry. And that's says something probably about my mental state more than anything, but it was a lot. Okay, now I need to see this movie. Watch at your own risk is what I was gonna say. But so Charlie essentially is pulling from that inspiration and says, When the world ends, will I be happy or will I be sad? Are we living in the moment enough? And she did this Apple music interview where she shares these sentiments and even references YOLO, which kind of made me laugh. But touching on the life is short motif, Charlie X dedicated Crash this album to Sophie, who was an electronic music producer and DJ, who tragically died in an accident in 2021. So they were friends and collaborators. I think it was like a really beautiful that she took that moment to pay her homage through the album. And that is my motto song. And I won't even think twice about picking another one.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

And I love that. And and even though I'm not a big okay, I'm just gonna say I'm not a fan of Charlie XCX. I still can't say it her. I I do, I really appreciate the the lyrics to this, and and I appreciate her artistry. I think she's I mean, I obviously she's tell very talented and has something special, and there's a lot more to her than I probably expected. And and I think that the song says says a lot about her. So thank you.

SPEAKER_03 26:48

Yeah, thank you. You know what's funny though? I like don't want to watch that movie. Oh, I was gonna ask you. I don't want to watch it. Wait, really? No, I Wuthering Heights. You know what we're talking about. Oh, wait, not even Wuthering Heights. I would like to watch that at some point. But she's in another movie that's like the moment or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

But you know who else is in it?

SPEAKER_03 27:05

Kate Berlin. Kate Berliant. Yeah. Wait, did you listen to that one episode? Yeah. I feel like it was okay. That was funny. We'll link to all of this in the notes.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

But but wait, would have you listened to the Wuthering Heights soundtrack? I listened to like one of the songs. And I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

I didn't think it was bad. Hmm, okay. I like to have the opportunity to come to things after the hype is over. Yeah. And I haven't, I just haven't touched on it yet. So I'll get there, maybe. Yeah. We'll see.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:33

Two years from now, I'll be like a mega fan of it.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Yeah. No, anyway, I'm curious. I haven't seen the movie. I but I I was kind of curious about the the a couple of songs. I haven't listened to all of it though.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

All right. I feel like we have an important part of our podcast that we must get to. Is the time?

SPEAKER_02 27:52

I think so. Um, let me reach over for the soapbox. Um in response to recent events, stereothematica is issuing a statement on CTAs. And if you have no idea what that stands for, consider yourself lucky.

SPEAKER_03 28:08

In general, a call to action is a good thing, a righteous request. But corporate America has co-opted the term and reduced it to three initials that are as meaningless as the CTA itself.

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For the untainted, a CTA is supposed to answer one simple question. What's next?

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The problem is when everyone is required to say the same thing every week, those words stop meaning anything. You already know the review at a rating helps. You already know how to subscribe. You don't need us pretending this is brand new information.

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Unless, of course, you're a new listener, in which case we would be so grateful if you could follow, rate, and review, subscribe, whatever it is.

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So, in the interest of respecting your intelligence and ours, we're rethinking the concept of CTAs.

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And maybe from time to time we're just gonna come out and ask for your support. So thank you for your support. And now, Christina, what's the hint for our next episode?

SPEAKER_03 29:06

Let's take a walk among some wildflowers next week, Christine. I'm ready to do that. Thanks for listening to Stereo Thematica. If you like what you're hearing, please consider a review, a rating, or sharing with a friend. Oops.

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