
Hustle and Heal Podcast
Healing ain’t soft. Hustling ain’t toxic. Welcome to the podcast where we normalize doing both—loudly, proudly, and for the culture.
Hosted by Blessed Jess, a licensed therapist from Virginia with a heart for community healing, and Styles, a Brooklyn-born entrepreneur who’s flipped side hustles into a lifestyle—Hustle and Heal speaks directly to the inner city experience. This is where therapy meets ambition, and emotional growth links up with financial freedom.
Every episode unpacks real-life struggles around mental health, trauma, money, mindset, family dynamics, and hustle culture. From dealing with unhealed habits to building side income and breaking generational cycles—this is self-improvement for the people who grew up with limited options but unlimited potential.
Whether you’re grinding in NYC, growing through it in Chicago, or just navigating life from the inside out—this show is for you. Expect raw conversations, practical gems, and real talk that meets you where you are and pushes you forward.
New episodes drop biweekly. Follow now and be part of the movement. Because healing and hustling go hand-in-hand—Every. Damn. Day.
Hustle and Heal Podcast
When values align, success follows
Success in life and business often hinges on the people we surround ourselves with, including romantic partners and business collaborators. Finding alignment in values, goals, and work ethic creates powerful partnerships that elevate everyone involved.
• The right partnerships can propel you forward while wrong ones can hold you back
• Trust your intuition when evaluating potential partners - your gut feeling serves as a personal security system
• Communication is the foundation for successful partnerships - learn to say difficult things and hear difficult feedback
• Creative individuals often work best with other creatives who understand their process and passion
• Start with small projects before fully committing to business partnerships
• Recognize red flags like lack of accountability, financial secrecy, and poor communication
• Know when to walk away from partnerships that no longer serve your growth
• Communicate expectations early to minimize misunderstandings later
• Consider using assessment tools like MBTI and DISC to better understand work styles
• Resources like The Five Love Languages and Crucial Conversations can improve relationship dynamics
This week's listener challenge: Reflect on your current partnerships (romantic, business, and friendships) and evaluate how they align with your values and goals. Share your thoughts using #HustleAndHealPartners on social media.
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New episodes drop biweekly. Healing and hustling go hand-in-hand—Every. Damn. Day.
In dealing with daily life, we come across two types of people who seek to change lives Hustlers, who are about making it in life no matter what, and the healers, who dedicate their time and energy to helping the collective. These are their representatives.
Speaker 2:I know what you thought you was going to hear.
Speaker 3:But this ain't that, where the grind meets growth.
Speaker 2:This is Hustle Heal. So here's the thing Between the brunch I went. Now I still don't know how to start a fucking show, Clearly. Yeah, we out here just looking crazy.
Speaker 3:Me neither. I feel like at this point people should know what to expect, because they've seen us now in thrice different environments, different scenarios, like we've evolved in front of people.
Speaker 2:All right, so let's get the show on the road. Listen, my name is Stiles and I am Blessed Jess, and this is Hustlin' Hill.
Speaker 3:Let's go so on this episode we'll be talking about success in life and business and how it often hinges on the people you surround yourself with. Also, we'll be deep diving into the dynamics of finding the right partners, whether romantic or professional. We will discuss how to align values, set healthy boundaries and avoid common pitfalls when choosing who to build with, both in life and in business. So every week, we will have a listener challenge, and this week, what we want you to do while you're listening to our episode today is to reflect on your current partnerships romantic, business and or friendships and see how they are aligned with your values and your goal, with your values and your goal. Kabish, kabish, kabish. So, styles, tell me about a time when a partnership, whether romantic or business, went really well or really wrong.
Speaker 2:A friend of mine started this. Uh, we, that's a really good question and I don't fucking know. I thought I had an answer, All right.
Speaker 3:I don't, I don't think I've ever like really done a Well, is it? Well, I guess, partnerships, are we talking about just relationships or just like a business relationship then?
Speaker 1:I mean either let's not go with the relationship I was about to say because I got plenty that's gone wrong.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nah, nah, nah.
Speaker 2:It's too early for that, but I too early for that. Alright, so we had a web portal that we had started or was starting for Urban Engine. I didn't know anything about the interwebs or anything like that, and I'm talking like this was maybe. I hate that page, so this is maybe like For real, maybe like you know.
Speaker 1:Ask Jeeves For real.
Speaker 3:These kids don't even know Jeeves. Who the fuck is Jeeves nigga? Yahoo was a search engine. Who was actually using Yahoo? Yahoo?
Speaker 2:was a search engine and it was Yahoo.
Speaker 3:We was actually using it.
Speaker 2:We were.
Speaker 3:Google was not even a thing for real.
Speaker 2:High speed internet was called a T1, and they had to physically put that cable in your house. Anyway, off that, we came up with this web portal called Urban Engine. Okay, it was going to be a shop, a digital shopping mall online. It was going to be a shop, a digital shopping mall online, so akin to an Amazon right now, but more like what you do, your VR goggles that you have now. Technology wasn't there, but we were big dreamers, anywho.
Speaker 3:Nigga, you could have been that motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Listen, it was the internet bubble time before it burst. But anyway, what we did was this I got with a bunch of people. A friend of mine came to me with the idea. I took it to another friend of mine who actually had the bread to get it done. I put them in a room together. They worked it out. Then I went and got some other people for, like, some software engineers and stuff like that. Needless to say, I got squeezed out of the deal and that's still my man to today.
Speaker 3:Is the business successful still?
Speaker 2:No, that's not to say that it wasn't, because it was, and they did a couple of things with it before they let it fall to the wayside, but that's one of my harrowing stories.
Speaker 3:Okay, so in the beginning, what made the partnership work?
Speaker 2:It was the chemistry. So basically it was a I don't want to say it was a bunch of hood educated dudes, but it was more or less like that. I worked on Wall Street at the time at a copy shop, right, I was actually taking orders at that time. Then I converted to a salesperson because I was like, oh, there's more money in this, let's do that. And I met him from canvassing you know, canvas in different buildings and stuff like that, trying to get some accounts. So I met. That was how I met one. The other one. He was one of my accounts. He worked for prudential security, okay so he was like yo I got to.
Speaker 2:He was a of my accounts. He worked for Prudential Security. Okay, so he was like yo, I got this. He was a young dude. We was all young at that time. Yes, I was once young we was all young.
Speaker 2:I hear you, jeeves, yeah, you know. So after a couple of Long Island iced teas at 5 o'clock every day, he was like yo, styles, styles. I got this idea, like, oh, I like the idea, I got this guy that does this. Let me put y'all together, put them together. They worked out whatever they worked out. Um, you know what's so funny? I should have seen it coming, because they squeezed him out before they squeezed me out. Yeah, he was out of here before that and then, after they squeezed him out, I was next to mine here before that and then, after they squeezed him out, I was next to fine, of course, but these were your personal friends.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what were the red flags? You missed?
Speaker 2:I didn't know anything about business. Okay, I didn't know. I knew how the corporate world worked with regards to you know. You fill out this application, you get a job and you were slaved forever. I knew how that worked as far as running a business and being part of a business that I had, you know, equity in. I didn't know anything about that.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Any other ones that worked?
Speaker 2:Yes, ones that worked, but we'll get into that later. But I did have one. My brother and I actually started a magazine called Whips, chicks and Bikes, cars, women and Motorcycles. That worked until it didn't work, but it worked. It worked on the business side. It didn't necessarily work on the personal side. Ok, right, so we'll get into that later.
Speaker 3:OK, yeah. So why does this topic matter? Because success is really a solo journey, whether in business or relationships. The right partnerships can elevate you, while the wrong ones can hold your bite. So let's talk about it. What makes a great partner and what are the red flags that tell you when to walk away?
Speaker 2:I know it seems like we're reading everything off here.
Speaker 3:We're just trying to stay on track you know, to give you guys, because we will go left and stay left, stay left. So the emotional side of it, like how did you feel? Like, did you feel like you lost a friend? Did you? Were you able to maintain the relationship?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it was horrible Because, again, the numbers that we were all right. So the friend that I have until today not the guy that first brought the idea to me, but the guy that's my friend to this day he actually. It was rough because we go through our periods of time where we talk, we don't talk, we talk, we don't talk, and stuff like that. So it was kind of emotional for me because he had brought me other deals outside of that, because I sold print services right. So he put me in a lot of different rooms to actually make money for my master remember, it's the corporate world, you know I mean so he put some money in my pocket that way. In terms of the the business itself, though I was actually looking for the big payday at the end of the day as we all know, you know.
Speaker 2:So we looked at it, we ran some numbers. There was a lot of, you know. There was some big figures being thrown around. So when I wasn't a part of that or able to be a part of that, that shit hurt, you know, of course.
Speaker 3:Okay. So, throughout all of your like you know, okay, so throughout all of your like your ups and downs with your friends, did it have a severe financial toll on?
Speaker 2:you Like. Did you invest a lot? No, I didn't See. That was the beautiful thing about it. I didn't have to invest anything, right? So my skin in the game and my equity came from me putting the pieces together. So I knew what we needed and I knew who had it.
Speaker 2:In order for us to go and get it Like, for instance, we needed a graphic designer we hopped in the car. Literally, my man's office was in the old Rockefeller building Rockefeller, yeah, where Rockefeller actually first started 111. John, he was in that same building. There was a car rental place not too far from there. We went, we rented a car, we spoke to the dude online or whatever, whatever he Too far from there. We went, we rented a car, we spoke to dude online or whatever. Whatever. He was like, listen, this is what we're trying to do. He was interested, but he was on the fence and we're all in sales, so we got to close this. So we went, we got a car. We drove down to NC True story Same day, spoke to dude, sealed everything and told him what we were trying to do. Duper interested, he was on board. He drove us back to new york same day. I'm talking yeah, it was crazy. Wow, yeah, so I didn't have to actually invest anything. He was the money man.
Speaker 3:Right, he was the money man and the technology behind the whole situation now you see why it's important to have some type of investment like to be needed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't get yeah, but the thing is I did ignore a red flag. One of the red flags was when we got rid of the guy whose idea it was and I was like, of course I'm next in line. How could I not be next in line, right, okay, oh, that's that. What's your perspective?
Speaker 3:um. So the emotional side of ending a partnership I could. I could see how that would be very taxing and especially if you are still in communication and still in interactions with these people, that has to be like something you really got to pay attention to how you, how you hold yourself when you got to interact with these people, because you still want to be professional, you still want to maintain certain bonds. But after that, like, how do you even look at them the same, how do you even deal with people?
Speaker 2:Okay, that's actually a really good question. I know a lot of other people are like yo fuck him, but it wasn't that I didn't understand the business behind it, right, because what happened was when I came in again I had all the pieces. He was like listen, you should be the CEO. Little did I know. Ceos don't mean anything. Their work is just like everybody else right.
Speaker 2:So it doesn't mean anything, but at the time I was a title whore. I didn't go to him on something like I need to be. I didn't do any of that. However, when he said it, that should have been a red flag too. Reason being we never did business like that before, right, he's never seen me in that capacity, you understand, okay. So I should have been like all right, chill, I can't do that, but I'm just going to continue in my role of putting the pieces together and then we work it out like that, right, okay. But then when we got rid of Terrence that was a guy that actually brought the whole idea to us I should have knew the writing was on the wall.
Speaker 3:So look why it's so important to trust your instincts when something feels off To me I tell this to my clients all the time your intuition, your gut feeling, is almost like your own personal security ADT for your body, like you might not know specifically something's wrong, but your body will tell your ass something off. It'll be like all right, pay attention. You might not know what to pay attention to at the time, but your intuition is your own personal debo, like to let you know, motherfucker, something. The fuck is going on. You need to keep your head on the swivel.
Speaker 2:Big fact.
Speaker 3:But now do keep your head on the swivel big fact.
Speaker 2:Um, but now I guess, now that you're older are you, trusting your intuition, watch out with that old shit.
Speaker 3:You are older, nigga we are older than we started at 12 you are older but now that you are more experienced, right, more, more seasoned yeah do you feel like you trust your intuition a little bit more?
Speaker 2:a lot more, actually a lot more, a lot more, and I don't think that, I don't even say that I don't think that, but there have been plenty of situations. I've been put in being the older figure in the group and I didn't take advantage of anybody like that, not saying he did it all, because we've had plenty of conversations, you know, surrounding that whole situation.
Speaker 3:I, I personally, don't move like that and haven't moved like that, you know I don't know who I've heard say this and I know I probably seen like on tv. Like how jewish people do business. Like they'll take each other to court and then go out to lunch later because they know it's just business. Like they don't take it personal, like you know what, and not only that.
Speaker 2:Yes, and what's so crazy about that is, if you have it right, you're doing it on principle alone. It has nothing to do with the money. So it's like I got the bread and I own the block.
Speaker 3:The scenario that I heard it in. It was a situation where one of the friends missed something in like a contract and the other friend took advantage of it and took him to court and got money. And the other friend didn't get mad. He was like, got me, like that was my oversight it was a lesson.
Speaker 2:It was a lesson. It was a lesson. His family's still gonna eat, he's still gonna own the block. He still got his friend and still got his friend. I mean, I still have my friend. I still have this 35 years.
Speaker 3:So I'm not even mad that you still have him because, as you're, telling the story. I'm like it sounds like how Jewish people do business, like they don't fuck around and ruin bonds over money because it comes and goes. You'll get it back. Right and you learn a lesson along the way. So, yeah, you might have lost some money of money, but I taught your ass a little bit something more valuable no big facts you never lose it again. You'll never big facts fuck up like that again.
Speaker 2:Yeah like, for instance, like projects that I start now. I know for a fact what I'm gonna do. Well, what I have been doing is basically, like we said before, probably on a previous episode, start on small. Yeah, right, so I'll give. Let's just use podcasting, for instance, right, if it'sing, I'm only doing, I'm only committing to like five episodes. I say I'm just going to commit to five episodes. I know what I bring to the table and I know that I'm going to bring everything to bear with regards to that, and then we'll work it out from there, right, right, because it gives you enough time to work out the kinks and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:I'm tired of losing friends over business. I ain't gonna hold you like. I'm tired of losing friends over business like I'm. I'm, I'm a saltine fucking cracker, like I kid you not. And then I have to control my emotions. You get what I'm saying and I can't. They're like yo styles, don't be that person. I'm like, I don't want to be that person. But then also, I feel like you can't judge my reaction to something you did to me.
Speaker 3:Of course, nobody can ever tell you how they made you feel.
Speaker 2:Like ever. It happens all the time. You'd be surprised.
Speaker 3:So keys to keeping a strong partnership Like being aligned with values and vision In business. Do you share the same work, ethic, goals and financial mindset? Like that's super important to have a good financial or business partnership and a relationship too.
Speaker 2:With regards to actually picking a partner, whether it's a business, we're staying with the business because we're in the hustle segment right now.
Speaker 3:Gotcha okay.
Speaker 2:Right, staying with the business. You got to avoid the me too people. I bump into a lot of me too People when I say that. I'm not talking about the original way that the term was defined. I'm talking about the people where you're like yo, I get up at six o'clock. You this is coming out of your mouth I get up at six o'clock in the morning and then, whatever it is that I need to do, that I had set the night before I get that done right, and then if I have something to do, listen, I go so hard and that person's response is me too and my response is bullshit. Now, now is bullshit because I'm. You bump into them all the time because we have to. We have to understand that, like, if I come to you and I'm excited about something, what are you going to be?
Speaker 3:Excited too.
Speaker 2:Exactly Without thinking, yeah, it just rubs off Like, ah, excited, right, good job. But what happens, though, is you might be excited, but you're not totally bought in as far as the work ethic and the work concern, because you're the one that saw the vision.
Speaker 3:I didn't have a vision. You brought it to me and I don't see it the way you see it Right, but what'd you say though? Yay me too.
Speaker 2:There you go. So you have to temper your emotions and evaluate it before you can actually come out your face and say X, y and Z right. Yo, I lose so many fucking friends. I swear to God, friend. I swear to God because it's just like once you do something or start something, and then that something doesn't come to fruition, I'm not the nigga to push it down are you able to shut the hell up about your visions then, like like a lot of times because I'm the same way too, like I get excited and I want to share with people, because I don't want the people around me to be left behind.
Speaker 3:I want to bring everybody with me, and then you get that disappointment where you see you can't take everybody with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's the thing. Like I'm not, I'm not a gatekeeper, because I feel like if I tell you the idea, it doesn't matter, right? So my million dollar idea might be a two million dollar idea in your hands, which is fine, because I'm going to still get my million, so I don't care. So, holding it in for me, I can't. I can't hold it in, it ain't nothing to talk about. I can't hold it in because I want to, I want to keep the momentum, and that's the thing. I can't keep the momentum if I'm the only one hyping myself up.
Speaker 3:So you definitely need to have the people with the same work, ethic, goals and the financial mindset with that part.
Speaker 2:What about it?
Speaker 3:The investment part. So even with the financial mindset, there's a lot of people that probably would be excited about it, but can't invest the same way as you.
Speaker 2:Which is fine. But see, this is the thing when you're putting together a team and I've done this in the past and this is basically how I do business- you do it now.
Speaker 3:No, I've done it in the past. You still do it now.
Speaker 2:No, I've done it in the past, you still do it now. No, no, no, see, hold on. No, no, no, not even that. What it is is yes, I hear what you're saying, but you jumped the gun. What I'm saying is this If I have the bread and this is what I'm taking away from that first experience with Urban Engine If I have the bread, that's my role Then you have to go and get the pieces, the product and the production, whatever it is, it costs money, right, right. So if you have the, the know-how and the money, you up. If you have the money but the person that knows how to put it together, you up.
Speaker 1:You understand what I'm saying so so that's my thing.
Speaker 2:I don't care about the bread I've got, like, for instance, this guy, my man, he actually he's. He's the bread, right, the bread and the brains for most of the way, because we've done plenty of projects after that. I'll get to that, but well, maybe I won't, but we've done plenty, plenty of projects after that, okay, and he's always been the bread because he has his own company. I don't have the leverage, the monetary leverage to actually step in and make shit happen.
Speaker 2:However, I'm a thinker. You understand. I will problem solve the fuck out of something. You understand. I will figure out where the money's coming from. I will figure out who we need to go to in order to get it and how we need to approach it in order to get it. You understand. I understand marketing to a greater degree than a lot of people, and when I say a lot of people, I'm just talking about on our level right as far as, as far as our context of concern I'm not talking about this level.
Speaker 1:That's a different level but yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's just basically trying to get the buy-in and then putting the pieces in place. I don't care about them, everybody just has to play their position, and a lot of people, they either don't have the patience, passion or the wherewithal to actually see it through. You know, and what's so ill too is I'll bring let's say, I bring you into something. That's something that I'll bring you into. I'll always break off some type of equity or partnership. Okay, you into. I always break off some type of equity or partnership. Okay, have to, because you got to have some skin in the game. Absolutely, you understand, but we are short-sighted as people, you know. I mean, we don't. You telling me about money we haven't even made yet.
Speaker 2:You know stock options in the late 90s, the early 2000s that was a pardon, because it even goes back as far as Microsoft In the internet boom, that whole stock options. You didn't make bread, you was answering phones. You know how he got you to answer the phone. Check it out. I'm going to give you 600 shares. Shares ain't worth shit right now, but as soon as they do their IPO, you up Microsoft secretaries. A million is after after they did their IPO. Apple million is after they did their IPO and any subsequent web, whatever that came after that. They did an IPO, they were paid. You can, you can't, sell people on the promise nowadays because they need to see the we're. So. We're so much under pressure right now financially, that part I need the bread now. Give me my money right now. Give me my money.
Speaker 3:Give me my money and I guess that like where we are now, just with society. What was? What's going on? It's important to have people around you with the same goals same mindset same ethic because you ain't finding that for real.
Speaker 2:Nah, big facts can we get into the relationship stuff, the relationship shit, picking that partner, yeah, that partner. That part of it is rough this could be an unlimited episode. You know how?
Speaker 3:Yeah, this could go on, and on, and on, and on and on. Yeah, sharing the same core values, lifestyle expectations and long-term plans.
Speaker 2:With your partner.
Speaker 3:With your partner. I feel like the thing that a lot of people miss on, that is, everybody's going to evolve and grow. So even though me and you agree right now, I may wake up tomorrow and feel different.
Speaker 2:That's why I need the paper signed. Sign that fucking paper.
Speaker 3:But even with that, it has to be some type of communication too. I can't just change my mind and leave you out there like that. There has to be a talk. There has to be some type of like my expectations is communication, like, let me know. So I'm not in this, thinking that we're going this way and you've made a decision to go here and I'm still putting in all this work like we're on the same goal. So communication is super huge. Um, core values everybody's brought up different. Everybody's raised different. I was brought up initially with a single mother. Then I had a stepfather. I was in a two-parent household, want the best. Some people do great, which? Just one like everybody has different values. We have different family traditions and expectations, all that. All that stuff we're bringing it to the table with somebody else and it's always going to be something that don't mesh yeah so then the communication needs to come in long-term plant like do you want kids?
Speaker 3:do you want to buy a house? Do you want a business? You want to be an entrepreneur, you want to stay home and I Do. You want a business, you want to be an entrepreneur, you want to stay home and I work. And like the communication is fucking the foundation for everything.
Speaker 2:So, it's definitely, and I think that yeah, your blueprint as far as relationships are concerned, them shits have to align. You get what I'm saying? Because, if it doesn't like, for instance, just like you said, if, Because, if it doesn't like, for instance, just like you said, if I want to be an entrepreneur, I'm going to be an entrepreneur. Now are you? Going to fall to those dreams you get what I'm saying, Like I'm not a slouch.
Speaker 3:Right, right, right. I work for my money. Right, are you going to be okay with me being busy and not being up under you, not calling every second? Right?
Speaker 2:Are you going to be okay, that person you know doing something that's in the same vertical as you, go go explain them all, all right. So, boom, you're songwriting, ok right. So if I were, a songwriter. I'm a data songwriter, because who else would understand me as much as that person? Would they understand the time? What Go ahead?
Speaker 3:Okay, nope, I see where you're going with this you know what I mean. So I'm under the. This is my thing. A creative has to be with another creative 100% 100%.
Speaker 2:Now.
Speaker 3:It don't have to be the same type of creative.
Speaker 2:No it does, though it kind of does.
Speaker 3:To me it does, though.
Speaker 2:It kind of does you have to break it down to the granular level and then what it is is like, for instance, if you're a YouTuber, you're creative, right, right, I'm a songwriter, I'm a creative, ok, right. But those things don't necessarily intertwine. So what would have to do, what would have to happen with these creative minds is this You're like all right, cool, I'm a YouTuber, I need music to do. X, y and Z. Right, I'm a songwriter, but I'm like I'm trying to get out here and, you know, write Grammy-worthy things I don't have time to do. You get what I'm saying. So it kind of has to be closer to that. Niggas are sensitive about they shit. No, absolutely right. So if I'm writing like grunge R&B and you like nigga, that's not even my lane come on grunge yeah, you gonna be like nah, that shit ain't gonna work.
Speaker 3:I still feel like there's some type of lenience and understanding, just just being with another creative right, the understanding that you are a creative in your own right and I am that just that understanding alone will take you far than being with somebody that's grounded. There's nine to five every day. I go to work for the man and I don't switch jobs. I'm gonna retire, I got a pension and a 401k Like that's completely different than you being a YouTuber and I'm a songwriter. I still understand your drive and your passion and like just those key, those core values.
Speaker 2:Understood.
Speaker 3:So, just off that strength alone, I'm going to respect you as a creative and let you create how you freely want to. You don't always have to align with mine, because then you're going to be over here in my shit and I'm gonna be like can you go create the fuck?
Speaker 2:over there and let me do my shit. Well, talk to me about all right. So let me give you another scenario. You're creative, right, but I'm not. But I love you. So how does the no, no, no, no, no. So I want to be clear. Let's go. Being a creative does not mean that you're a starving artist. Maybe you are, maybe your artistry doesn't pay you, but it doesn't mean that you're completely destitute. Because what's happening? I'm actually getting right. I'm getting, I'm getting a check. I know how to take care of my family. I'm getting a check. I know how to take care of my family. I'm getting a check. But what does the support look like? How does that work? And how do you align yourself with somebody that's going to, again, like I say, foster your dreams. I can't be with somebody that doesn't have that, can't dream outside of that. Nine to five.
Speaker 3:I'll put. I'll use myself as an example. So I feel like my last relationship I was married to a non-creative.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And it drove me crazy, because I was in the studio all the time prior to our relationship, the relationship that I was in beforehand. He was a musician.
Speaker 3:So, me going to the studio was never an issue. He was interested in my music. He kind of he came to my shows. He was very supportive. We didn't get along with other shit. But I moved on to somebody that I felt was meeting a need that I okay. So I knew what it was like to have a creative side met, but I didn't know what it was like to get to be emotionally available and like have other needs met. So I put the creative stuff to the side because I was experiencing something new.
Speaker 3:But once I got that I still had that urge to create and once that came out, it wasn't supported, and I was so used to getting but you think that that was maybe rooted in security as opposed to it. It could have been, but I was so used to like I, I think I automatically transferred okay he's gonna. When I go to the studio, it's not gonna be a problem, because it could have been. But I was so used to like, I think I automatically transferred Okay he's going. When I go to the studio, it's not going to be a problem because and it was a problem- and.
Speaker 3:I ended up not going Like completely stopped. I stopped writing, stopped going to the studio, stopped making music. I focused on the household, tried to make it work, tried to suppress it to make it work, and that shit ain't work for me.
Speaker 2:I think it's kind of like. I think it's kind of like when you go to a strip club, you meet a stripper. It's cool when y'all start dating right, and then a couple of months later you're like, alright, you're going to have to stop that.
Speaker 3:Don't stop shaking it. Niggas is coming at me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't like it, but you liked it. Though that's how you met her, you liked it. I feel personally that's a little unfair to you. I don't like drive killers. You know what I mean. Don't kill my drive.
Speaker 2:Right Find your drive, don't kill mine. Right, right, right, you understand. Like I had the idea of this Um, this is what I wanted to do. I knew how I was going to do it. Right, you were okay with it. When you met me, you thought the shit was sexy, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean. And then, a couple of months later, it's like yeah, no, about that thing that you do. Nah, I don't think. I think that we don't realize when we're killing somebody's drive, like somebody could come to me right now with the most and it's outside of a relationship, but somebody can come to me right now with the most ridiculous idea.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm going to do Support it, no, no. But I am going to try to firm it up though.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to sit there and just poke holes in it and I have friends that can attest to that. Yeah, you come to me with something, especially, you know, being older I don't think that I know anybody, you know that has like outlandish ideas that just think that, you know, riding in the car upside down is a good idea and this is how we're gonna do it. I'm like what, what problem are we solving with that that part? So I don't have friends like that that come to me with that. But if you come to me with something I would deem to be ridiculous, I'm not going to kill your dreams. Let's try to talk through it and firm it up. That's what I would do.
Speaker 3:Communication is key in everything.
Speaker 2:A lot of people get the communication thing confused too. They think that communicating is just talking. You got to know how to communicate.
Speaker 3:Right, and you got to know how to receive it too.
Speaker 2:You got to know your audience.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you have to learn how to say the hard thing and hear the hard thing too. Everybody can't do both.
Speaker 2:Both Sorry, damn I'm sorry, I was feeling uncomfortable. I don't think that you should have did that to me in that moment.
Speaker 3:Some people have to learn to say the difficult thing and hear the difficult thing.
Speaker 2:Amen to that and everybody cannot do both. Amen to that. You are so fucking. No, but the remix was crazy. I like it. I like it. I like the remix.
Speaker 3:And it's like so to our next point, the communication. Like you said, if the okayness changed with me going to the studio, it should have been communicated, but it wasn't. I felt a shift, I felt the lack of support.
Speaker 3:I felt it wasn't a hey, I don't feel comfortable with you going to the studio. I don't know what it is, it won't, none of that. It was just a shift. So with the communication, like I said, you got to be able to say the thing. That's difficult for you to be all right, and if you holding it, the resentment is going to show.
Speaker 2:Let me see the biggest downfall in business and personal relationships is poor communication, and this is true, just like you say, all right, look for relationships, discussing, discussing financial expectations, roles and responsibilities early. Yes, because I guess that's just basically shoring up what communicate like you met.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you met me. Listen, you met me in a strip club. I had that elephant trunk thong on, feel me, and I was just basically doing my. I'm just saying I was doing my. I'm just saying I was doing my Kevin Hart the daddy when he was going through the aisle, I was doing that and you thought the shit was cute, right, hold on. And then four months later you like yo about that Tarzan swing, we not doing that, no more. And I'm like hold on, wait a minute. Well, at least I ain't selling pics of my feet.
Speaker 3:I'll punch you in your gray. I will punch you in your motherfucking gray. If y'all ain't seen that episode, just punch yourself in your feet.
Speaker 2:I wish I could sell pictures of my feet. You understand where I'm going with this. Alright, it's a whole other topic. No, but that whole thing let's talk about. Let's put a personal touch on it. Sure, hold on, I had another foot joke in my head, but I'm going to leave it alone. So let's put a personal touch on it.
Speaker 3:If y'all see this motherfucking next episode.
Speaker 1:He ain't got none of this shit y'all know what the fuck happened all this shit?
Speaker 2:just gone, yeah yeah, so my, my wife is a creative right. Shout out to height and heels. That I've been saying, like every other episode every fraudian every yeah, that whole thing, fraudian slip and all of that. But, um, she's a creative and I thank god that she's a creative because the struggles and the shit that I go through I don't have to. I'm not whining and you know whatever crying on her shoulder, but I can mention it and she'll understand exactly where I'm coming from.
Speaker 2:You understand and we can help each other out. We do help each other out with regards to editing and all this other stuff. Even though we're on, we do two different things, but neither here nor there I don't think that I could have married a woman. That's not a creep Right, or even it's not a mistake, listen, I could right. Or even, uh, it's not a mistake, uh, you listen. I could go as far as to say an entrepreneur.
Speaker 2:Right, because shout outs to all the nine to fivers like I'm a nine to five or two as am I yeah, but I'm, I'm part of the underground railroad too, so I'm hustling we hustling motherfuckers up out of there, you know, to get to where we need to go, to promised land, you know, take it back to 1950s, but you know, flip that shit on his head whereby we're the master, and you know we're able to do that thing Right. But yeah, like I said, just I don't think that I could have married anybody else that wasn't entrepreneur or a creative, you know, and I lucked out and got both you know.
Speaker 3:So discussing the, just just discussing things early keeps all the bullshit away later.
Speaker 2:I mean it can, but there's only but. So much you can discuss up front, Because, remember, just like you say, we're evolving all the time.
Speaker 3:Shit changes, but as a creative, you like you said we're evolving all the time.
Speaker 2:Shit changes, amen.
Speaker 3:But as a creative. You understand shit changes. You might not know what it is but, you know, as a creative, you're evolving all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all the time it is part of your lexicon when you're a creative or an entrepreneur, because you constantly have to do so, because you constantly have to do so.
Speaker 3:But if you're talking about shit early, you can talk to your partner or your friend, your business partner, your romantic partner about the ways that they are able to support, so you can see where they're lacking and get the support elsewhere. If they're not able to do that, though, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, like as a like Shadra's a concert creator, we do podcasting and I do music Like we're all, and if I can't support you in a podcast in one week, I can say that and that will allow you to kind of get your support elsewhere and get your needs met and not solely depend on what you're expecting from me. If I can communicate that, you can pivot like you need to and it won't be such a burden and it won't catch you off guard. It won't be a hindrance because I won't catch you off guard.
Speaker 2:it won't be a hindrance because I've communicated what I can and can't do, right so if you don't always want to have to, you know, step up to the podium and and communicate certain things. Ie, you know support in certain posts and stuff like that and you know, which is a whole other story. But, um, you don't want. What the fuck is she doing? Upstairs you hear thunder foot upstairs fucking 1.30 in the morning, this bitch getting up to get donuts.
Speaker 3:I almost want to move the table like over, just in case the bitch come through the floor nah, nah, that's a lawsuit.
Speaker 2:Like the chick that couldn't get into the fucking cab, we, we, good.
Speaker 3:I ain't breaking my neck. That bitch is not finna fall on me.
Speaker 2:I'll push you out the way. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:But yeah, we gotta let her come through the ceiling.
Speaker 1:And then we got the cameras and all of that.
Speaker 2:We need to catch all of that and you know that yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know what I was talking about. Cause bitch, I got a concussion. Shut the hell up. I had a fucking concussion. What are you?
Speaker 2:manifesting, knowing when to walk away when a partnership isn't serving you anymore. How do you, professionally or personally, move without burning bridges?
Speaker 3:Man, I keep a matching gas with Egan.
Speaker 2:But see, that's the fucked up thing I know, I keep because, and and when shit goes on with me and I tell you, the first thing you tell me is like yo, you're gonna have to temper all of that. You can't, and I'll be wanting to. I'll be wanting to because I don't understand this is my thing. I don't understand how you could do something to me, but then I'm an asshole. All right, we're gonna leave it alone.
Speaker 3:Listen, yeah, go ahead when a partnership is not. I've evolved into this version of me, though lesser evolved. Just burn the beers down. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3:I ain't never got to come back this way, I'll go another way, I'll find another way but now I look at kind of how you were saying about your friend earlier you're still friends. You kind of how you were saying about your friend earlier You're still friends. You kind of chucked up the loss. If the losses are outweighing the wins, I'm okay with having a conversation. Now I'm really okay with sitting your ass down and really be like, look, I can't fuck with this shit, like I fuck with you. I love you, I appreciate how we grown. You gave me like great experience, but this can't, I can't. I'm sorry it might hurt your feelings. I'm good with that and I don't know if it's as me as a therapist being able to add that boundary for myself, but I know I need certain levels of peace in my life and if people aren't bringing it, I'm okay with boundary. You know what?
Speaker 2:I do, Nah, I don't need I have little ones that I need it for.
Speaker 3:So that situation is different, that's different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, I'll create my own piece. You know what I mean, even if, even if it means separation, I create my own piece. But that's.
Speaker 3:but that's the same thing, though. Like how is that not the same thing Me, you might not need to have a conversation you said yes, I'm saying so it's not the same thing, Cause I don't need to.
Speaker 2:I can create the space I don't need. So if I need, if I need.
Speaker 3:I'll be on the pause part right here cause god leave if I need the peace, I can create separation.
Speaker 2:I don't have a problem with not speaking to niggas. I don't understand. What confuses me is like that doesn't confuse me. I lie because it may be it may be a misunderstanding.
Speaker 3:It could be a misunderstanding. It could be, and I'm willing at this. I've grown to this now.
Speaker 3:This probably won't be me a year ago. I've grown to this, but I'm willing to at least speak about it so you can learn from it. Like you know how you, most people know how they fucked up, most people know what they did wrong. But I'm willing I'm this person now. I'm willing to have a conversation with you so you can know how your actions affected me. Okay, no, I got you. No, no, no, no, no. This is the thing.
Speaker 2:This is the thing. You, a Jedi, right now I'm still a Padawan, you know what I'm saying still in my emotions and my feelings. So I don't think that a lot of people even deserve me by coming to them, and you already know, you know how fiery I am at times, right? So I just feel like people are just out to slay the dragon First chance they get. Now I don't know that you're trying to slay the dragon until we actually try to do something and you do some fugazi whack shit and then just turn around and be like, oh so, you was just trying to kick me in my nuts the whole time.
Speaker 3:The reason I do what I do is because I don't want to be a hypocrite when I help other people. I want to say that I've been able to do a thing, get through the emotion, actually do something that's serving me. The conversation ain't for nobody else, it's for me to get the shit off my chest how I need to and let that shit be. You go over there and feel how you're going to feel about it afterwards. But because I do what I do for a living, I don't ever want to preach anything to somebody that I can't actually do. I'm glad they don. I don't give advice, I provide a perspective.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, whatever, I don't want to see it from a different angle, I am fine. I'm not telling you to see it from a different angle, I'm fine. And until I do grow out of it, I probably will continue to lose people, right? But the smaller the circle, the easier it is for me to keep my eye on motherfuckers anyway. So that's how I look at it, you know, and I'm listen. Bringing this back to picking well, where were we?
Speaker 3:Know when to walk away.
Speaker 2:Know when to walk away professionally or personal, without burning bridges.
Speaker 3:That's a mouthful, but that's why I decide to have the conversation, because I'm going to leave that on you.
Speaker 2:But see, that's the thing. I can't have the conversation because most can't handle the conversation.
Speaker 3:I agree.
Speaker 2:And then that turns into something else.
Speaker 3:It don't have to, because once I see that you ain't being receptive, I'm going to leave, see, but this is the thing though.
Speaker 2:Now you're saying that, right, you're going to have have the conversation, but then you also want to try to dictate how they react to this conversation that you feel that you need to have with them. They don't feel like you need to have it with them. Remember, these are the per, these are the people that perpetrated whatever it was on you. They did that you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So now, you now feel like you need to have a conversation with them. They didn't feel like they needed to have a conversation when they did what the fuck they did. Yeah, like you can fuck out of here, I'm not raising adults. Suck my Sorry, I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it, but that's where I'm at with it, but I you know, I feel you Like, I understand and we're always like.
Speaker 3:Here I get that.
Speaker 2:That's how the motherfuckers talking about. I need to apologize.
Speaker 3:I ain't apologizing, no, I'm not saying that, but this is the thing.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like I'm getting back on to the adult level. I don't feel like I need to explain to you or get closure with regards to something that you did. That's just where I'm at with it, and I would rather fade to black and not speak to you. You understand what I'm saying, because to me it's like oh, you didn't give a fuck, guess what? Me neither With a V, me neither.
Speaker 3:I just feel like it depends on what the relationship is. I guess, If it's somebody new, you can get the fuck on.
Speaker 2:I do it with people that are old too. I do With history, because it hurts worse when it's actually somebody you have history with. Reason being is because you know me, you know my body, and the first thing people want to do when you come out, your mouth or whatever, is attack your character. Can't attack my character. My resume is long and distinguished, you understand. I'm saying I show up when I'm supposed to show up, absolutely, and I'm not talking about in a physical sense and in every sense. I show up when I have to show up, right, right. And the moment that you call out and you don't whatever show up when you're supposed to show up, when I have to show up, right, right. And the moment that you call out and you don't whatever, show up when you're supposed to show up, I'm not supposed to feel some type of way. Then I gotta approach you, I gotta talk to you about what you did to me. Now I'm good overstood. Take that shit up the block. Okay, they got the two for fives up the block.
Speaker 3:I'm not nah now that we talked about what makes or breaks a partnership, let's talk about some resources.
Speaker 2:OK, let's do it. So we got got a couple of books actually the Partnership Charter by David Gage, a guide to building successful business partnerships All right. Crucial Conversations that's your thing, right. Partnerships all right um. Crucial conversations that's your thing, right, um. By kerry patterson mastering tough conversations in business and relationships. Now what I do is this I'm big on audible. I don't have time to sit down and thumb through a book because one I I think that I have. Adhd. Swear to god, I do, because I'll sit down.
Speaker 3:Nah, they don't, they just making another donut run.
Speaker 2:So yo shit. What is she walking on her elbows? This bitch is army crawling to the fucking refrigerator. Anyway, outside of that, I'm big on audible. Okay, you know I commute to. It's crazy. Anyway, outside of that, I'm big on Audible.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know I commute to and fro.
Speaker 2:It's crazy, she got the GI Joe theme music in the background, oh yeah, all right, knock it off.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to finish this up. I am big on Audible. I've been trying to get that out. Pause. So if you commute to and from work, these are things that you need to put on your list of books to actually read, all right. So we also have online tools. These are very important. We didn't touch on a legal perspective, but Rocket Lawyer create legal contracts for business partnerships. That's important. All right, we really didn't talk about that, but we'll get back to that. The Rocket Lawyer entrepreneurcom articles on how to vet a business partner those are very, very important because again, yeah, because I don't show up as a person that went to school for this shit, all right.
Speaker 2:So you and I, we school for this shit, all right. So you and I, we're actually learning together, all right. So I might say some shit that's absolutely incorrect, and if I did, I'm not, I'm a, I'm human and I do, yeah, and I do want to learn exactly. You can always coach up, so you can hit us in the comments, dms, whatever. So if you feel like we missed something, please let us know, all right, dms, whatever. So if you feel like we missed something, please let us know. Alright, and that's all I have for the tools, okay so evaluating compatibility and avoiding toxic partnerships that shit say 15 minutes, ain't.
Speaker 3:No fucking way ain't no way defining your non-negotiables for romantic partners, discussing core values, future goals and lifestyle compatibility. You gave a resource. I think you gave this one before. I don't know the author seems familiar. What's?
Speaker 2:that Amir Levine.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Understanding attachment styles and how they affect. It's called Attached. The resource is called Attached.
Speaker 1:Not.
Speaker 3:Amir Levine, understanding attachment styles and how they affect relationships. So there's different types of attachment styles.
Speaker 2:It's a really good book. Types of attachment styles. It's a really good book. I read it with barbie from let me touch your podcast. Um, she has an entire season based on this book, so if you feel like you need a a deeper dive into it outside of what it is contextually, definitely go check out let me touch your podcast so he has another.
Speaker 3:No, I'm looking because you have the the david gage up here. So, for business partners, defining your non-negotiables, speak about vision, work ethic, financial transparency and, again, the resources, the partnership chartered by David Gage. So real, quick, understanding, communication styles and conflict resolution. How do you and your partner handle calm?
Speaker 2:We don't argue. That's like rule number one for me. I'm not arguing okay right, because the thing is she's a pisces, I'm a leo, so when we argue, you already know everybody's trying to go for the w. Everybody wants to w. You don't have to get a w every time. Well, I do, but not with the person, right, that I'm laying down with. Okay, not with the person that's actually raising my kids so it doesn't even have to be an argument.
Speaker 3:So, like up here, are they avoiding aggressive solution focus, like it doesn't even have to be an argument. But how do you handle it, man, if you don't argue? What does conflict resolution look like?
Speaker 2:we have to wait until cooler heads prevail, okay, you know, and when I, and when I say that, I mean like yo, we can. I'm funny, pause, not funny like that.
Speaker 3:I'm about to say it's a whole bunch of entendres because what funny you got to specify the funny.
Speaker 2:Specify. Well, I'm funny, weird.
Speaker 3:How about you find me comedic too?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that too. But um, and you just, I just try to like get her to smile or whatever and shit like that. She's a foodie, Food always makes her happy.
Speaker 3:That's a woman treat, you get those endorphins going.
Speaker 1:That's a woman treat.
Speaker 2:You know, and this is real shit, that's like I can't give you a textbook way of doing it. You would only you have to know your audience. So whoever your partner is, you know right, whatever that sweet spot happens to be um tools for improving communication?
Speaker 3:um include active listening techniques. Um a resource could be the five love languages by gary chapman um to help you understand your partner, how your partner expresses love and support. So as a therapist, I say like I don't like the five love languages only because what they left one out. No, because I feel like don't relegate me to two. I'm not taking a test Like I need all of them and I would expect but there's nobody saying that you can't.
Speaker 3:No, right, right, right, right, right, right. But in the book it asks you to take a test to see what your top two are. That might not be my top two every day, so listen, listen, listen With a partner. I would want my partner to be attentive enough and in tune enough to know what I need that day, but it is a good resource to figure out what your love language is, and usually, when you figure out your love language, that's how you give it.
Speaker 2:You give what you want in return, you're not giving what your partner's love language is all biblical. Anyway, get to the recognizing the red flags you can talk about the romantic partnerships, I'll talk about the business partnerships okay and recognizing red flags and romantic relationships.
Speaker 3:pay attention to the lack of support, inconsistency and misaligned goals. When they don't celebrate your wins, they belittle your dreams or undermine your hustle. Speak up about it Like when you notice it. Don't let that shit ride. If you feel funny, do not sit there and just act like you don't have a voice. If you're in a relationship and you have a partnership, you should have an equal say in your feelings. You should be able to feel safe. Hopefully you're in a safe space where you're able to speak on how you feel, how you've been made to feel, and hopefully y'all can have a resolution about it. But pay attention to your intuition. You will know when somebody's trying to shade your ass and they're not being supportive.
Speaker 2:All right. So as far as red flags are concerned with business partnerships, lack of accountability, financial secrecy and poor communication, it all reads scam.
Speaker 2:Scam yeah you just got hit with the me too. People scam, you know they don't follow through on commitments. That's a big thing too, especially if they told you like yo, one of my biggest things is you give me something, you tell me to do something, or we sit down and discuss something, I'm on it, so they don't follow through with that, or you got to chase them down and figure out what. You know what's going on with X, y and Z, and there's only four you guys in the group. That's a problem. Yeah, all right, or they avoid tough conversations about money. Now, if they're avoiding tough conversations about money, that's a red banner. That's like just a global. Yeah, paint the whole fucking town.
Speaker 1:Everything is red.
Speaker 2:Reason being is because when they came to you with the idea and they ran the whatever thought they had, thoughts they had as far as where it was going to go or where it would land and what it took to take off and they could easily rattle this stuff off then you come back to them later and they can't. They hemming and hawing red flag. Leave them alone.
Speaker 3:Leave them alone spell that I know all right, all right testing the waters before we go all in for business.
Speaker 2:Start with small projects before becoming fully committed. All right, um, that is with anything. I know that when we come up with an idea, the first thing we want to do is, like we look at it like, oh, I could get 50 grand in 60 days and we all in Can't do it like that. You cannot do it like that. You need proof of concept before you do anything. All right, which means the best way to eat an elephant is bite, bite, bite, bite. That's it, I'm tired. Bite, bite, bite.
Speaker 2:Look, I knew the phrase and I didn't even catch the merch I'm like yeah, nigga, exactly, I'm with it. All right. One of the best resources for business entrepreneurs is Forbes. Right, there's an article called how to Vet a Business Partner, all right. Right, there's an article called how to vet a business partner, all right. And for relationships engaging in activities that reveal character, like travel together, handle a different, uh difficult, situation, I think traveling together is another. That's big. I think we need a whole episode on that, just just on that. But, um, yeah, right, okay, and before we wrap it up, let's give y'all some reason. It's a lot of fucking resources. Anyway, like I said, we're not showing up as know-it-alls. We don't know it all. However, you can definitely vet everything that we say, or even expand on things that we please do, we, you know, tell you and stuff like that, with these resources. So, before we wrap it up, let's give y'all some resources to help you navigate partnerships in business and love.
Speaker 3:So, with relationships, you've got the five love languages, like we talked about earlier, by Gary Chapman. You have Crucial Conversations by Carrie Patterson. We mentioned these two before. Then they have some assessments that you can take, like some simple tests that you and your partner can take with each other to figure out your personality types and just your preferences. So you have the MBTI you find out your personality types, how they affect relationships and business partnerships. You have the DISC the D-I-S-C Personality test is great for business partnerships and how to understand work styles. You want to talk about the apps and platforms. Yeah, apps and platforms.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have some platforms, so we have Trello and Asana. Stay organized and, well, stay organized when collaborating with a business partner. Those are great because you can actually have team members come in on projects that you're doing and you guys can work on it in real time, and or you can actually work on it independently, but proof everybody's work. Relish, a relationship coaching app for couples. I'm going to need to check that out. I'm going to have to check it out too.
Speaker 2:I heard it out, I'm going to have to look at that. Founders Dating a platform for entrepreneurs looking for business partners.
Speaker 3:It's super dope.
Speaker 2:It is super dope, but I don't know how much I trust it All right and Legal it is super dope, but I don't know how much I trust it All right and legal and financial tools we already went over Rocket Lawyer because you got to get yourself a lawyer Right and what they do? What they do is I'm bugging and I'm tired. Scratch down Rocket Lawyer templates for creating business contracts. How about that? You don't go there if you're going to jail or somebody's suing you. That's not what you're going there for. They're not going to give you a lawyer. Anyway, Honeydew, a budgeting app for couples I'm going to look at that. That's crazy. Okay, Final thoughts Trust Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3:No, I'll give you a break. You got that. Yeah, us go. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead now I'll give you a break, you gotta. Yeah, we've been in this shit all day fighting it out um.
Speaker 3:Trust and communication and aligned goals are the foundation of any successful partnership romantic, business, friends, pastor and friends. Whether in business or love, choosing the right partner can make or break your success. Again Again, the listener challenge. We will have these every week, so get ready, be in it. Your challenge for this week reflect on your current partnerships romantic, business or friendships and how they are aligned with your current goals and value. Please be aware that you guys will evolve, so it takes communication to talk about when things change, when the idea that you liked before ain't the one you own now, speak about it so that you guys can stay aligned. Share your thoughts with us though. Use the hashtag HustleAndHealPartners on social media, dm us like it. Put comments under the post Engage. Let us know how things are going and let us know how we can help.
Speaker 2:Listen, I'm having a ball doing this. All right, we're getting out of here. Follow us on hustling hill on instagram and tiktok, share your favorite part of the episode and tag us. All right, don't forget to subscribe, rate and review and we catch our guys on the next one.
Speaker 3:I'm Bless Jess.
Speaker 2:Peace, peace yeah.
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