Random Ramblings

The hosts discuss the introduction of a new platform. They recount a humorous conversation about a Netflix documentary on the infamous  2013 poop cruise. The episode explores their motivations for podcasting and cattle breeding, touching on family, community, and humility. The show ends with a fun round of 'Would You Rather' questions, adding lighthearted touch.

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Take. Alright boys, the new platform is here. Let's roll. Take seven. Welcome to around the Shoot. Wait, so the new platform, do we still use tumor or no? Can we do that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She said yeah, I don't know. Well, I don't, I don't know. Before we get that, before we get too far, we should probably tell all our listeners, y'all are gonna wanna reach over to your volume dial and turn it down, because we're gonna come in crisp. We're gonna come in clear. We've got more emojis to use. We've got more things that we can bring to the table here. We're gonna have to figure out a way to video these things though, because that would be more fun. You could catch our laughter. We're gonna figure out, have to figure out next. That's what we need to figure out next. We've talked about it, how to get these things on YouTube or how to upload'em to Facebook, something like that where we can have video and it's so crisp. I could read that stack of mail that's over your left shoulder. Mine. Where is it? Your right shoulder? Mine, Corbin's Corbin. Corbin has a stack of mail. Do you see that stack of mail over there? Yeah. So why are you looking at my junk drawer? You've got a, you've got a dang clothes hung up behind you. But wait closet. But this isn't my room. This is my room. Wait, there's more one. Either. There's more, but wait, there's more. There's a button that says livestream. What? Ooh, wait. Where would that go? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It says, it says live on Facebook. Live to YouTube. Live to Twitch. I don't know what Twitch is. I've got a Twitch. Do you have a twitch? I've got a Twitch. My you. Only my tch. You get a twitch? Yeah. When you've been spraying Too much Roundup. I gotta tell y'all a story. So. What have y'all been? I mean, I'll just start it by asking, what have y'all been watching on TV lately? Ooh, we're got good one. We're in the off season for sports and stuff. No, not off season. Yeah. Yeah. WNBA, I mean, and they're well and CA's hurt. Ban Women. Caitlin's Hurt. Always hurt. And they're tired because they had to play two games in seven days. Yeah, I know. What're watching? I know what you're watching. No you don't. What? Yes, I do. Waterfront. What? Waterfront? No, what's that? Is it, what's Waterfront? Oh my God. On Netflix. I'm gonna write this down. Is it a, is it a series? It's a series, yeah. It's a season one waterfront. Is it like landman or something? Um, no, but it's really good. Colin Davis. Oh, I gotta watch that. I kept seeing it and Colin Davis texted me the other night. He is like, you watching Waterfront? And I'm like, no. He's like, it's similar level than, it's a similar level to um, oh crap. What's our show, Joe? Landman. What? I underst line Land lions. Oh, line ness. Oh, line. Kinda, kinda, but not, it's not to do with, uh, it's not to do with the military or nothing. It's, but it's like, like, dude, every intense, every episode. You're like, what? Like cliffhanger type stuff? Oh, yeah. So what I was referring to, there's a new documentary on Netflix and it's about a cruise ship in 2013. The potty. The potty cruise. The, yeah. Poop cruise. The poop cruise. The poop cruise. The cruise. It was a train wrecked poop cruise is what it's called. I watched that today. Wow. And I, I watched the whole thing. Why would you watch it? It's freaking awesome. Bitch. You didn't watch it? No. Why would I? You know nothing about the red biohazard bag. They had the P in bags. No way. They had the P in bags and then they, they were, did, they opened the bar. They're like, this has turned so bad. Yeah, we're gonna just give you a bar. Roasted bar. And people started throwing the poo bags at each other. No. And then, um, and then whenever the, they hooked onto the tugboats, they like hooked onto'em from the opposite side and pulled them another way and it jerked a boat to the side. So then shit just started coming out. No walls, I swear. No, I swear. It was seeping out of the walls, pouring. They could hear it. It was squeeing between their toes as they walked. Why are we talking about this? Anyways, I say all that to say this. At the end there's a disclaimer and it says. Carnival Triumph was refurbished, reheal re whatever into Carnival Sunrise. Do y'all remember last summer when I went on a cruise? Was it the Sunrise? No, it wasn't. I was on the pbo. No way. I was on the pbo. And then I was talking to my mom today and I was telling her about this, um, documentary and she was like, what, what ship is it? And I was like, oh, it's uh, carnival Triumph. And she's like, that's the one we went on when you were a kid. So I've been on two cruises in my life. The same cruise, same boat, and I've been on the poo boat. That's the only boat I've ever been on. So I have a question. Yes. If, hang on, I gotta put my hand up. Where's my hand? He's gotta raise his hand, right? Raise my hand. Okay. So it made you go to the top left too. It made your, yeah, it made you move. Oh, you went back. Okay. Okay. So this is a documentary, right? Yeah. So was it all reenacted? I wish. No, because so So you're telling me what happened to the crews? Like something broke down Right. And they were just kind of a drift. Yeah, the boat caught on fire. Okay. So this documentary crew just happened to be there or did they fly the documentary crew out and leave everybody on there? The only footage they had? No, they would've been cool if they, the only real footage they had was like pictures and video from the people on board. Which I was kind of curious as to how those people's phone didn't die. I was wondering that too. Did these people travel with little solar charger? This is so they probably did, this is how, this was not fake. They were on a poo boat for seven days and they were just crapping in showers and peeing in showers and it was like a three or four day cruise. Like it was a three or four day cruise. And then they were stuck there, slot for seven lines to get food that by the time you got through the line, you either forgot you were hungry or you were hungry again. Right. And like eat food, were serving. Oh, they're eating onion and tomato sandwiches on Soggy White Bread. Who is your favorite character? My favorite character. I know mine. It was easy. Probably Jen. The, uh, cruise. The bachelorette cruise. The cruise director. Oh, the cruise. The British accent. There's something wrong with both of y'all that y'all watching. Stop. Because that bring it to, we can't even talk about it. That brings up a whole nother topic, but, uh, Ky been kidding. It wasn't Ky I, I thought the chef was hilarious. Oh, I know. He's like, it smell like, yeah, he was funny. What? I am so dis this. How about that one girl y'all won this from, from Russia, who was like, oh, we just have the sex on the boat all the time. You're like, oh, it was wild. You guys are disgusting. She's like, I was in someone else's room when the power went off. Like, you nasty. Oh, it was nasty. It was incredible. It. And it made me wonder like, have you ever been to any houses where there was like generations of smokers in the house and then if they get any humidity, the tar starts coming through the walls? Oh yeah. Like I wonder if the carnival sunrise and humidity, the poo comes through the walls. Corbin. Yeah. Or like, um, it's unfor. I mean, cats have you go to a house that's had cats living it for years, where they didn't tend to their, I mean, there is a way to have a cat in the house where it doesn't stink. But there is also a way to have a cat in the house. House where there's an undeniable odor that you cannot get rid of. You can't get out of it. You can't, do you ever put that, you put that kills paint on it and it still doesn't get it. Once it gets humid, it like comes out and seeps. Yeah, that's what I was wondering. No, Vince, you gotta watch that. It is hilarious. I'm not watching it. Oh, you would? It's in her, it's 55 minutes long. I, I can guarantee you that Amy has watched it. She, I, that must have just came out because I just saw it. It did. I've seen it for about a week. It's hilarious. No, I, I watched it like two days ago, so it ain't been that long. Another thing, I still follow Tiger King on Instagram. I still recommend it. It's still pretty entertaining. I'm not gonna lie to you guys. I still, I still, I, I would like to highly recommend that. Still pretty funny. Even, even these five years later. Still pretty entertaining stuff. Is he still in the clink or is he like Yeah, he's in the clink in Oklahoma. He's in the clink. He's really trying to get, uh, pardoned by President Trump. He still really hates Jeff and Lauren Lowe, um, still hates that B Carol Baskin. I don't know. Hey, by the time this episode airs. Trump might have traded Elon for Tiger King. He might have. He might have. They're at war right now. Yeah. It's best I, while I recommend following Joe exotic, I don't know that I really recommend following Elon and Trump's beef on Twitter because it's exhausting. No. The only thing in the reels land that's worth anything are the baby AI generated Joe Rogan, Theo conversation. Oh my God. Oh, oh God. How do they do that? I don't know. It's hilarious. Those babies look exactly like those people. It's unbelievable. Speaking of, speaking of ai, nevermind. Nevermind. Oh my goodness, nevermind. Oh, that is exactly right. So what are we gonna talk about? We, um. Talk about, I guess we have to acknowledge, we have to acknowledge that there's still rumblings out there with the ANS association and all the methane stuff. Is this, is this where I get to say dollar meth, dollar meth? Say only if you're an idiot. Are you talking about dollar meth, idiot. So, um, I guess that there's not as much that needs to be said on this topic. Um, because I think the three of us have collectively talked about it enough to where any further conversation we have with anyone, including the three of us, we wanna be moving in a positive direction. We wanna move, be moving towards a common goal. Um, and I think the best way to do that's to get as many heads together, um, in the same place. We need to find a strong voice. Ultimately, there's gonna have to be a number of leaders, right? Somebody's gonna have to be a spokesperson. We're gonna have to figure out a way to. Get everybody on the same page because right now what's happening is there's thousands and thousands of people that want to make a change. They want to do something different. But the unfortunate reality is that 3000 people going on their own and doing things is not as strong as say, 200 people who are on the same page. You can get a lot more done as a collective than you can by yourself. So ultimately we're gonna have to band together if we wanna see anything, uh, come from this. I would add too, uh, I know this is so hard, guys, because we've taped this like three times, right? And we've done it on Yeah. It's hard. So I don't know what I said on record and what I haven't, and, but I do know that we've always been bantering about the three of us through our, our text chats, through our personal conversations and everything. If somebody chooses to be quiet about this issue, that's their option. If somebody wants to be outspoken, that's their option. If somebody wants to be a giant jerk, you know what, that's kind of their option. They, nobody asked for this problem to be laid on their footstep, but now we are at a point where I think you've been through the stages of grief or whatever you want to call it, the stages of disappointment. I do think the best thing for all of us as Angus breeders is to try to figure out what it is that we want and let's move towards that. Absolutely. Um, is that fair, Vince? Yes, absolutely. So 100%. So I'm, we talked about it as the dead horse and, and we don't want that, I don't want that message to get lost because there's a lot of real good, uh, insightfulness that we found out of breeders. There's a lot of cool people we've been interested in that finally got at their breaking point that you're finally hearing from'em. And then there's people that I don't know if they even know what they want. And that's okay too. But hopefully if you're listening, um, to us, really think about those core solutions that you would have. Vince mentioned some, Vince mentioned delegate voting. Um, I've heard people say regional, like I don't wanna call'em junior board members, but increasing the, the swath of influence for people for subcommittees. I've seen live stream of board meetings besides the actual executive committee. And if run properly with Robert's rules of order and the Brown Act and all that stuff, you would come out of executive committee with a recommendations. So, so, you know, we aren't getting members involved on staff issues or protected information or private studies, but generally speaking. I've heard, uh, several people say this, we aren't, we aren't building rockets here. We got a breed registry. Absolutely. So, Vince, you keep shifting around and it's making me really nervous. Is my audio skipping it out or are we doing okay? Just keep talking. My battery's getting low and it's plugged in, so I just need to make sure I, I'm gonna plug it in the wall. Yeah, I think those are illegal now'cause the big beautiful bill. Anyway, there was one more thing I wanted to mention. Yeah, go. How about every single person in the American Angus Association gets a vote? Um, on, on sensitive topics, on everything. I know we use the delegate system. The delegate system is kind of designed for 1952. We're in 2025. It's a heck of a lot easier for each and every one of us to log onto the internet and vote. And if then people still don't vote, then you know what? You didn't vote. So, uh, we say all that to say, let's get together, right? Let's figure this out. Um, I know we've each been in conversations with each other and with other people on how we can do that, so let's do it. And I guess I'm hopeful for one thing, I do think there've been piles of letters. There have been piles of social media. There've been piles of multimedia about this issue. I am expecting a response, like a one pager from the board, from the CEO, something that says, we hear you membership. These are the things we're working on to help connect with you and your concerns. Um, I'm really, I've been expecting that. Um, I, I talked to you guys by the time this airs. Maybe I will have got that information. Um, still have tried to reach out to, uh, a board member and I haven't left a message. They don't have my phone number saved in their phone. There's no expectation that, uh, on an unmarked number, somebody would just call me back if they didn't leave a message. I get that. Um, but it's just being busy and I'm sure those folks are too. So we grant Grace. Um, but I think now it's time. Folks can still stand on their moral authority here, but let's get some positive change. I'm, I'm boys. I'm not interested in burning this sucker down. I'm a part owner and there's a lot of equity tied up inside this black hide and four hooves and rumen. Um, and it belongs to me and it belongs to my family. So, uh, and it belongs to you. Belongs to me. What brought all this on? What was it, Vince? What did you call it? Dollar meth. Did you say? Dollar Meth Boy. Howdy. Tired of boring old stocks that don't smell like regret in livestock. Introducing dollar meth, the world's first methane backed investment index. That's right. 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Do you know that's the first one of those you've done in like three months? That didn't say ex existential in it? Ex existential. Ex existential. And I said it right then. Existential. That's a hard word to say. You could have worked it in existential flatulence. I wanted to. I wanted to work in winky dink. It was an existential crisis that we've had to deal with. Dollar meth though, so. I don't know. We have a couple little topics, but I'm interested, you know, Ian and Sally Beavers from Eagle Hawk down in Australia, have been on their whirlwind tour and, and it's not my job to just sit here and pump those people up. They're wonderful people. Very nice. They came and visited all three of us, but they're touring the states right now. And so we have a social media, well, what is it, A SNAP group guys? Yep. We got a snap group we're on with them and a couple other people. They call it Angus mates and you know, they send us stuff here and there and it's, it's a fun group, but watching the weather and stuff, it got me thinking. I mean, has your guys' weather been up and down and all around and weird or what have you been dealing with? Rain. Rain and more rain. I just, I just got off the phone with Robert before this press play and he said they had Bobby, he said they've had 22 inches this month. This month we had, that's what he said. He said his corn is just sprouting right now. Is that what he, is that how he said it? Uh, I can't do justice to how he said it. We've had more rain than that. I'll say that. And I bet Vince has too. Um, really in Oklahoma this month. Oh, it's been, well not this month.'cause it's July 1st. I can't, it won't let me in the month of June. It was wild. It was a wild month. We've had, we had multiple five inch rains. I mean, um, whereas the last three years we dealt with a crippling drought that put us in a very tough spot. Now it's quite the opposite. We'll get some hay laid down and it'll rain or, um, a lot of places it's too wet to even bail and the, and the haze behind, to tell you the truth, I, for one, would take the too much rain over the alternative because, um, I mean, I've had to sell over a hundred cows over the last three years because of the drought and I don't wanna do that. So, um. But it's, it's definitely like a lesser of two evils. It's not like it's great, but it, it is what it is. Since January 1st, it won't tell me last month, but since January 1st, we're sitting at 46.78 inches. What, what's y'all's annual rainfall? I dunno. Somewhere around that. Like we've had our annual rainfall in six months. Have you had like tornadoes too, or just rain? Rain, rain. Um, early on we had some tornadoes, but, um, mainly just rain. I gotta pay more money to get that data. It's like Uhuh at the top it says 12 hours, 24 hours. Y Yeah, but I go to MTD, which is month to date. And then YTD that says zero, but MTD says zero. That's'cause it's the first. Okay, well I wanna look at last month homie. Go. YTD. It won't let you Yeah, exactly. You gotta upgrade. The issue is like up, up until lately, lately we've had normal rains, but man, up until lately it is like major storms and flooding. Like we were getting four inches in an hour the other day. I think we got an inch and a half in 30 minutes. Like it was, it's just been crazy. We got three inches last night. No kidding. And we didn't, and we didn't even have a chance of rain. Oh my, the other day we had four hundreds for a chance of rain and we got a uh, inch and three quarters and you know what's crazy? Did that put you on your, where did that put you on your knockdown? Hey Vince, I remember last I talked to you about it. It was not a good, good situation. So it was supposed to rain yesterday and it didn't. So then it was a chance of rain today. So I told Nate, uh, we went and got haircuts at lunch. Oh, did you notice my haircut? Yeah. What'd they charge you for that? Too much. I don't understand too much. I don't understand too. Vince, explain this to me and I'm not being a butthole and can't you shave your own head? Um, yeah, that's weird. Do your, does your hand not go above your ear? I don't know about you guys, but I cannot see the back of my head. I would've to have like 18, just go over it, it a bunch of times, 18 mayors or Amy could do it, but that's another story. Anyway, after, after, after the haircuts, I sent Nate up to check his hay and I told him if he thought it would roll, let's get her done. So he rolled it today, about 30 acres that he had down. He's got a little bit more like 1520 acres to do tomorrow. And then we're moving back here. It's supposed to be clear the rest of the week, hopefully I can get all the hay baled and all the oats cut and I don't know if I can save this straw or not. I've got 50 acres of straw wind road and it's had five inches of rain on it. I don't know. We're gonna Good thing it's just straw. Huh? We're gonna te it tomorrow. Yeah, but I need it. We're gonna te it tomorrow. Okay. Explain the ted and what's a teter? Uh, it's, it just scatters hay. It flushes. I had a, I had a, a teter. A teter. It's a man you don't want to know. Teter did something really bad. It scatters it, it's a verb. Really? Teter it scatters it out and lets it dry and fluffs it up. Makes it dry quicker. So you, would you tet it and then put it in a windrow to ba it? Yes. Okay. Tell it to get it dry. You don't have to, but it just makes things quicker. And then windrow it and ba it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ted, it, so this, this hay that you're worried about, will you guys pull like a moisture test on it before you put it in a barn or something? So does this, this hay will not go in a barn because it was already marginal when we cut it, and then it's just had five inches of rain on it. So it's basically straw. I'll take it. It's, it beats a snowball. Yeah. Hmm. It beats a, it beats eating mud. Yeah. It, it'll beat fun. How do your cows look, Vince? Oh, man. Don't, let's not, I'm not happy. Let's not talk about cows. I don't wanna talk about cows. I'm not happy on about how my cows look. And why? Is it because the grass is too washy? I think it's too washy. That's, that's what I talked to my nutritionist yesterday and I. That's basically what we came up with. Even the calves at side of the cows, I was telling him that they look crappy and he said, well, the grass is so washy, it's affecting their milk. I never even thought about that. Yeah. I got one group that I have not moved because it the place I have to, there's two ways I can move them. Both places are like kind of in mudhole and I'm just trying not to make a mess, to be honest with you. So the grass is short in there and I really, really am starting to think about, okay, I hope it doesn't rain for a couple days.'cause I really wanna move those cows to some fresh grass because they're starting to, I mean, their first calf heifers. And I like moving those around more than anything. Keeping them on fresh grass, keeping them as fat as I can. And so, yeah. It's different problems for everywhere though, right? Yeah. Different problems for every person. I've never been so disappointed in my cow herd riding around, looking at'em ever. And it has to be because of the weather has to be, I think, uh, yeah. Nevermind. What I was gonna, I was gonna tell you. The real truth is probably, um, the, my bull selection. You're not, you're not selecting for the right traits. I'm sure I'm not and that's okay. Oh, I'm working on it. I'm gonna pivot, I'm pivoting. It starts with, I'm fixing to pivot efficiency, my friend. It starts with efficiency. I'm fixing to pivot and start doing, uh, looking at different, oh, you're probably signed one of those NDAs I hear about, and you probably are on the early front end. You got the chambers already. They're gonna put you in a chamber after you go to the smokehouse. They're coming in tomorrow. How are your, how big are your dividend checks, Vince? They're big Miss. Amy's gonna like them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's a fun topic. I mean, I. We, we talked about, we need to talk about our whys and how do we give our listeners something a little bit more upbeat after these, what we're going on like five weeks of this Angus chatter. I, I'm sick of it. I'm ready to do something. It's, it's exhausting, it's demoralizing. So how do we stay the course when things get tough? Because I talked to Vince in the last, outside of the Angus deal, what, 45 days ago? And you were just downtrodden. I had an instance last night where I was going off the deep end, um, Corbin, I feel like you're probably the most level-headed right now, all of us. But you've got little kids right now and a lot of excitement. So it makes it easy. It makes it easy. You keep your focus in the right spots. So the, the way I stay the course when things get rough is I kind of dedicate more time to family. I start thinking about other things. Luckily, right now is not a very critical time for cows. I'm not having to. Not having to do much for them. They're in a lot of ways, self-sufficient. They're turned out, I don't have to put them at the forefront of everything. And so, um, it's a tumultuous time for sure, but I think it's important to have other things in life. You know what I mean? You have to have other interests, other hobbies, other people, um, which that can be difficult. But Have you started playing golf yet? I want to really bad. I tried to hit a golf ball the other day, um, and it hurt so bad. Like it was, it's literally like because your wrist, my wrist. Yeah. But I will tell you guys, I got a steroid shot in my wrist three weeks ago and I can full on throw a baseball now. So I got a dog that likes to go get a baseball. I've been chunking that sucker. I'm trying to work it. I'm trying to work it as much as I can. And if I work it as much as I can, I feel like that's gonna be good for golf too. So I'm trying to get back to golf. What, what was that show where that kid broke his arm and, and he had an elastic and he went and played in the big leagues when he was a kid? Rookie. You remember that? Joe? Rookie? Was it like rookie of the year? Rookie. Rookie. Yeah. Rookie of the rookie. The thought it was rookie. Rookie of the year. Yeah. What about that guy that had that face and then he falls and breaks it again and then he can't throw hard anymore, right? Yeah. What about that Oscar pin Taurus or whatever? That guy that had the Tink Tink legs. What? You don't what what? He had those, he had those metal legs that looked like robot legs. You know what I'm talking about? Where they're like, dink dink dink dink dink. No, and they kind of bounce around on him. He played baseball? No, he killed his wife. What? Oh, how did we go? How did we Google, how did we segue that? Google it. He was like in the Olympics and shit. You're terrible at segueing. No, he was in like the Olympics and stuff. And then. It came out, it was like, this guy's a scumbag and we all loved him. But how that happens all the time, same thing happen to Lance Armstrong. Yeah, I think it's, it's just human nature to like look for perfection in people. And that goes to my always my faith stuff is like the fallen nature of man stuff and idolatry and everything. And I guess my faith tries, I try to keep myself in the center of the road using faith, but I don't know. I mean, I didn't, it's funny, I wrote down this topic about staying the course when things get tough. Um, this is a hard business because it's such a long game and I think that's why this particular issue with Angus sparked so many nerves with so many people because being a cattle breeder cuts a lot deeper than a lot of different vocations because honestly, I. Most people I know if we devoted this many hours to any other vocation, you'd be very, very wealthy. You'd have plenty of time off. Um, and so why do we give that up? We give that up for this kind of quasi spiritual journey, um, which I think can actually go the other way. And you can get into a lot of weird kind of idolatry stuff, which some people get baited into. But if you use it as a tool, um, to help you in, in your journey, I think that, and to see God and his creation, then it's good. And that's what I've tried to do. But I'm not gonna lie and say everything's perfect. I mean, it's like I told you guys last night. I got a call from, uh, well, I sent a guy a text that runs the feedlot where our bulls were, and I said, Hey, did you order this special vaccine for anaplasmosis tick? Um, because we have it out here. There's a killed vaccine and it's an experimental vaccine and it's short on production. And he said, no, I was going to, you know, what are you thinking on the booster?'cause everybody out here, vaccinates and boosters for it, whatever. And, um. Then he ends up calling me and he is like, Hey, I got five crippled crippled bulls that got hurt. They got sick, put'em back in, put'em in the health pen, put'em back in, and the bulls rode'em to death. You know, we got, we, we got problems and your other bulls are just not cranking like I was hoping they would. And so I, I of course was in a pretty rough place last night. So I called Wyatt because he actually sleeps only an hour and a half from the feedlot. And I said, Hey, switch gears. Just go down to the feedlot, get those bulls that are hurt, bring them home and we'll rehab them here. We'll probably, you know, after we got'em here, we decided we're gonna make steers outta all of them. Um, bring them here and then give me a full report on the deal. Well, he went down, he is like, no, if you take out the hurt ones and then you take out our private treaty bulls that are all later born deals that are for a completely different deal. And you look at the core of what's selling. We're right on track. Bulls look as good as they ever have. You're just fine. Everybody needs to relax. But I think as these cattle get worth more and more money, and then we're involved in social media, we're involved, uh, as some sort of professionals on this broadcast thing. The expectation weights in this backpack that we carry gets heavier and heavier and heavier. And so much of it is so self-inflicted that sometimes, I'm not gonna lie, guys, if it wasn't, that's why I love this new podcast that we have, the three of us, because the second, it's not just fun to visit with my friends, I'm going to leave you guys. No, I mean, and I hope you would treat us the same or me the same. Say It ain't so. It's gotta be fun, man. We gotta get back to making Angus breeding fun again. Well, it was fun until Angus did not such a nice thing. I, I don't, I I think we battle these things. Anyways, though, like there's always gonna be something, you know what I mean? There's always gonna be something trying to derail you and you have a personal choice to be like, well, am I gonna sit and pout about this? Or am I gonna one, be a cause for change and two, put my head down and make my cattle better and stay the course. You have a choice. That's what I was fixing to say. Like 90% of the crap that we deal with on a daily basis could drag you down. It's gonna be your choice to let it. Most things, when you take a beat, you sleep on it and you wake up the next day are not quite as bad as you think they are in the moment. While your bull deal could have been very detrimental, could have been worse, took a minute, ran up there, looked at'em, and it's, it's fine. It's gonna be fine. Guess what? You can't change it. Nothing to do about it. You have what, 90 days to change'em. So it's, you got plenty of time to fix'em. So even if they're behind or were behind, or they maybe they just thought they were behind, you still got plenty of time to fix it. The only thing that, you know, look, your family's healthy, everything's in good shape. These other stuff, it's, it's all, it's all minority little things to worry about that will eat you up if you let it. Well, doesn't it make you feel kind of selfish when you see. Like Randall's deal, and I don't want to draw too much attention, but you see Randall's deal and it's kinda like, whoa. Yeah, that could have been really bad. Yeah, that could have been really, really bad. Or how about when you see, how about when you see a family going through a straight up tragedy, something you hate? Absolutely. Something where a family member's lost a family member. A member is sick. You see those sorts of things. Oh, it puts it into perspective for me. Hey, last night I was gonna run to town and grab a steak, throw it on the grill. I get almost to town, road's blocked. There's a car upside down in the road, just flattened. Uh, knew the guy that lived there. He was, he was standing in the ditch. He said, that's gonna be blocked for a while. You might as well go back and go another way. I said, what happened? He said, the guy was hauling tail and ran off the road and hit a culvert at some of his driveway. Flipped upside down. Boom. He's dead. I mean, the whole family. So, I mean, just like what you're saying, like, like that's a, that's a major thing to have to deal with. Well, and I wanna make, I wanna point at it, but I don't wanna say it and I hate being this obscure, but you'll get my point. It'll take me way too long to get there. We have a very, very good listener that's dealing with some farm difficulties in a big, big way in Vince's part of the world. And I haven't heard it firsthand from them. So that's why I'm keeping it to myself. But we've gotta figure out how to. Despite what happens at organizational level stuff with AAA or whatever, we've gotta support each other as breeders, I think, because the circle's pretty do doggone small. And I think maybe that's, that cuts to why some people were really disappointed as they felt betrayed by fellow breeders who were in a position to make decisions that affected all of us. Why are you speeding me up? Like this guy is such a clown man. You just beat up Corbin Clown. Oh man. Anyway, um, there's all these features and now, now my phone's blowing up and I can't figure it out if it's you guys or my dad, but it's not us. It's David Fisher. But anyways, that, to that listener, to that listener who's gonna listen. Yes, we have heard through the grapevine that you're having a rough go and you are absolutely in our thoughts and prayers and we do support you. And if there's any way we can help you, um. Reach out to any of the three of us and let us know, but this person has handled it kind of privately and, and I would like to respect that privacy. But you're right, Vince, and you're right Corbin, there's, there's perspective things that we need to keep and, but what about the cattle piece too? Bless you. Bless you. I hate, thanks for muting. I hit, I couldn't, couldn't get it quick enough. But, uh, what about the cattle piece? Like, Vince, you're frustrated with the condition, but do you have, but it's fine. It's, it'll be fine. I just don't want anybody to see'em. Yeah, but do, do you still, you see the goodness in them. Like that's where I find refuge sometimes is just loading the family in the side by side and going for a drive and just going, yeah, but we still have something really special going on here. Man, my calves have gone backwards since weaning and like, it's just, it's a little discouraging. I don't like, I'm not. To the point where I'm so, so, so discouraged and I want to go jump off the barn or nothing, or sell everything. It's, it's just, it's just one of those things like, they're not where I want them to be or where I think they should be or where they normally are every year. Do you know what I do whenever my cows are like that, Vince, and I know that you do too, and I know Joe don't quit looking at'em. No, no. Yeah, I do do that. But you said Dooo. You didn't say Dooo. You're the dooo guy now. Oh my gosh. Now we've gotta find the dooo emoji on these reactions. Um, oh, I bet, sir. So the thing to do at that time is obviously you can, you can, he's looking for it. You can really take the time and figure out which cows are excelling, excelling, and excelling in. Inopportune conditions, maybe where everything else is not going. So s well, you can find those cows that are, um, that are doing well, even in not perfect times. Hey, did we say we wanted to have fun in this episode? Let's play. Would you rather? Do y'all want to? Oh my God, I forgot all that. Or do y Wanna play something else? Something else. We gotta get. So, so we talked a little bit about staying the course, but we'll do that at the end. We gotta remember too, this is gonna come out on one of my favorite days of the year, or close to it. The 4th of July. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The 3rd of July, independence Day, Corbin, which is. Course GI Eye. I know. And he's a pet peeve of mine. Are you gonna go down to the Gulf of America and, and celebrate? Do you see Trump's new hat? No, it doesn't. He doesn't wear a MAGA hat anymore. He wears Gulf of America hat. No. Hey. No way. He was, he was wearing, they don't know what the, they're doing. He was the other day I saw a picture of Pete Hegseth and him in the situation room and Trump's sitting there wearing that big red hat. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's, Trump's got a big old head too, so it makes it even stick out worse and all that goofy hair. Yeah, it's awesome. Okay, so you wanna play what you wear rather, I'm wanna only do that at the end. You wanna do that at the end or what's at the be Why don't, or why don't we, why we, at the beginning still, why don't we get our, get some meat to this thing? Do we wanna talk about our why? I thought we were, I think we just did. Are we just gonna, that was it. What do you wanna talk about? Go. Didn't say anything? Yeah. People are gonna demand topics. Didn't They're gonna demand topics. Yeah. I thought we, we were, we had a topic last week. We were talking about how crappy my cows were. Surely to God, that is not, Hey, gonna be the freaking topic. I thought you might be tired of talking about how terrible your cows are. Like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to advocate for you, Vince. I'm trying to talk about something else other than how terrible your cows are. I'm trying, okay. Vince, do you wanna talk about your why? My what? What your why? You said we got put some meat on this dog. What am I, wine. Why do you do this? Why? Why do I do? Well start with, start with why you agreed to be on the podcast, even if it was just kind of an accident and then an talk about it, an accident. Then let's, let's each three say why we agreed to why we still do it, and then the big piece of why is it that we even have these cows and what are we doing, what we are doing? Well, it was an accident that I was on a podcast and then, uh, it became fun and I have fun with you guys. So we just kept it going and I just, I just want to help folks. If, if there's, you know, like the guy that's been doing it for third generation family, like, he's not gonna come here to try to glean anything to do a better job. Okay. Um, I want to try to help the guys that are just getting started that are small, that, that haven't made the mistakes yet, that if they make the mistakes that I made coming along, it's probably gonna be very detrimental to'em. Um. I mean, I just want to help folks. That's all. I, I'll keep'em outta the quicksand and, and falling on their face and things like that. And I, and I, I feel like I have been able to do that with some people. Mm-hmm. Um, become good friends with some people and talk to'em on a daily basis or chat, you know, text with'em or, or whatever. And, uh, I mean, they're friends and then if they run into something, they're like, Hey, I wanna run something by you. What do you think about this? And it makes me feel good that I'm able to help'em if, if I'm a help, sometimes I'm not, I'm not very helpful, but I just, I just wanna help folks. That's all. I, I don't care about the much of the rest of it. I just, I just wanna, if I can help you and. I'll be glad to. I'll be try. Be glad to try to Corbin you go. Um, so ultimately podcast y for me is I always have been able to reach people through comedy and so, um, I thought of it as a great opportunity for people to get to see the real me because um, a lot of times you don't get to see the person behind the Facebook profile or see the, or get to know the person behind the program. So, um, I just want people to be able to get to know me. Um, ultimately it turned into more, it's turned into more of, uh, sharing my opinions to try to help people because I've been through a lot of crap that you guys are going through too. But the ultimate decision to start to get on a podcast was because there's a lot of crunchy folks in the cattle business that don't really, I. Show much, um, emotion. They don't really laugh. And so I wanted to try to get some laughs out of people and, and entertain. I mean, I just, there's plenty of podcasts out there that are, uh, for lack of a better term, boring. Um, so I'd like to just reach people and be fun and energetic and hopefully we've gotten back to that, this episode a little bit. But, uh, you know, if it's boring, turn it off. Exactly. I think that's a really good point. You bring that up because I think I am the most boring out of the three of us. Um, but we've had this discussion around podcasts for four years where it's like some people want, we gotta give them something, we gotta give them something. I wanna give them a place to go where they can just listen without I. Any reservation and just have a good time and maybe be challenged on their thought process just a little bit. Or maybe they hear a new way to do things. Or if, if you're looking for the modified live or killed vaccine protocol, exact way to do something, we're not the guys for that. But you know, maybe by establishing a relationship with us, we'll text you what we do or you know, we'll, we'll discuss that at one point on here. We have discussed in the past some of the things that we do, but to claim we're experts. I'm not an expert on anything. I'm an expert at failing and then learning from it and overcoming it, and I'm still here. I'm still here. And so Vince said, uh, uh, help people. I remember the word I added to the first podcast we were on. It was my, it was a word I chose, which was empower and. I actually think the three of us were quite impactful at empowering people to use their own cattle at empowering people to see value of their own livestock at empowering people to say maybe what's 3000 miles away and looks cool in a fake photo isn't better than what I have at home. Um, and we talked about this like three podcasts ago or two where it was like, okay, maybe we went too far that way and we need to bring people back to center and say, Hey, you know, but we gotta stay humble too. And we, and, and I, I feel like it's always just been communicating truthfully. I guess the podcast has been easy for me because I've never had to worry per se about what I said because it was always just honest. Like, that's the thing. Yeah. I never had to be like, gosh, did I say this and make this person mad? Or did I, like, did I stay consistent on this or that? Like, I. Uh, we're flawed. I'm flawed big time, and, and if I can just reach people where they're at and people can see that it ain't all perfect at the big brewing ranch. Like we, we have problems. We have little teeny tiny successes all the time, and we just kinda rinse, lather, repeat all the time. We just keep doing the same things and we try to be a little more efficient and better about it each time. And, um, yeah, I guess that's why I do the podcast. Now, the cattle breeding piece, I would say is it's a great way to raise kids, um, just because it teaches so much humility. And, and I think that's also why some of the quote genetic improvement tools get on my nerves is I really think cattle breeding is a real tool. To help improve our character as humans in our communities and in our faith and, and being parents and all that stuff. Like, it just helps us be humble and say, there's only so much you can control. Absolutely. Ultimately, absolutely. You've set all this up, you put it into motion, you put it in an environment, and now you gotta let it go. And if you're humble enough, you'll look at what you have. You'll keep the good, you'll move on past the bad. You'll constantly be redefining what is good and what is bad. And I don't know, it's just, it's a real awesome, awesome, beautiful experience and humility for me. And I think it's funny because unless you get to know only Bennett and I got this conversation when he came back out, he is like, my friends are scared of you. I'm like, I'm the least intimidating guy ever. And I think that the tone of my voice I've recognized and how I carry my facial expressions and stuff seems very, uh, confident. But I've, I've, I've tried to walk in humility most with this vocation and I hope that I grow there. And I hope my kids and their children have the opportunity to grow up on a chunk of land where they can try some things and fail and become humble and see some successes and really learn what's valuable in life. You know, that's my why. I didn't get to the, the cattle part, but I mean. I just grew up here when I was a kid and the, my, my happiest moment had to be when I came home one day and Amy said, we're moving to the farm. Mm-hmm. And that was the only reason she wanted to do it is'cause she knew Nate loved it and she wanted him to grow up here. And like just watching him grow up here, like when I was a kid, I grew up here. It is just been And grow. And grow. Yeah. And grow. And grow. It's just been and grow. And now he's six eight and now he's six eight. But you know that, that's been the awesomest part. Like I wouldn't want anything else. Um, Nope. So the cows are just a piece of it. So I told you all the other night, wait, Corbin, you had your hand up. I did have my hair up. I just put it down. I was waiting on y'all to stop. Um, so the other night I sent y'all a text. Do you remember what the text said the other night? It was at nine o'clock. Our text thread is eight. I said thousand texts long. Man, I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look. Don't, how are you gonna, I'm about to tell you. I'm about it. Says I'm ready. I, I've been ready. Don't overheat. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. Stop. Go. Cor stop. I'm gonna tell you. 1, 2, 3, go. Okay. So the other night I sent y'all a text at nine 15 and I said, I just decided to wean calves. Oh, I remember that. I did not give all the context to that. And this is gonna go back to our family playing a part in it and how awesome that is. So at about six o'clock, me and Myla, we decided to go swimming. We get in the pool, we're swimming for a couple hours, and then I said, Hey Myla, I've gotta go move some cows around. I think I'm gonna wean a few calves. I've got a. I've got a couple groups of 15 cows that are fall calve. I don't have as many fall cals anymore. I was like, I'm gonna go catch them and we're gonna start, you know, maybe we will, maybe we will move them close so we can wean'em tomorrow morning or something. Well, the cows happened to be close to the pen and so we were on the full wheeler. I was in my slides and my swimsuit. Nice. I Myla was in your slides. Dude, Milo was in her panties. I weaned calves. I ran them through the chute, gave them vaccines and wormed them and poured'em in my slides and my, um, swimsuit with no shirt on. How many people do you think would do that? Not me. I'm not wearing shorts across the road to, to the farm? No, I don't wear shorts. And I actually mean mug Paxton pretty good for wearing slides to the pipe store today with me. Yeah. Get away from me. You weirdo. Yeah. Well that's kind of odd. I mean, I got bronze toes and y'all got sock feet. Yeah. No, my toes are not something I'm proud of, to be honest with you. Me either. You got all over'em. They need to air out. They stink. You probably stink. You probably have, you both probably have socks on right now, don't you? I've got socks and boots on. Socks. Socks. I took th goods off for this taping, but I'm gonna put'em back on when we're done. I got the thro goods on stock and boots at nine o'clock is I'm not been home yet. Take your shoes off. What do you do if one of those cals steps on your toes? Corbin? Yeah. I say, ow. He loses the dude. What if you hit the hitch on your trailer with your shin with shorts on? He says, more than now, I guess I'm just more careful than you're, and maybe whenever the least, the less amount of clothes you wear, the more careful you inherently are without even thinking about it. I don't think I've as good as you either without a shirt on. So that's why I keep one on, I know for a fact I don't, I look like one of those Home Depot paint color wheels, like, because I wear an undershirt, so my hands are one color, my arms to my armpit is another color. And then from there on is translucent. It's like those tetra fish that you could see through and see their organs. Yeah. You're clear, you're clear. Ethnicity, clear write. No. You brought up a, you brought up a great point. I mean, it's, it's why we do it. It's so that we can do it with family and we can grow together and, I don't know man. It's, it's great. And I don't, Myla also had her slides on and she had a sorting stick and she was helping me get'em. She helped the whole time. Just gotta point that out too. That's awesome. Fantastic. It was fun. It was funny. She was funny out there helping. Um, well, and I think that's probably the piece that. When you get to these vertical integration talks or you get to these think tank talks, I mean, I just ask that anybody that's ever at a meeting, and I hope I'm this person, is just. Remember, you're not at the meeting to speak on the behalf of the little guy at home. You're at the meeting to make sure that all of your friends and family members, that that message is conveyed. And I think those are two different things. And, and I've had to learn that in my career. I don't speak on the behalf of people, um, but I do share a perspective that I think is shared by a bunch of people in my area. And I think that humility and service is something we need to get back to, um, in a lot of different places. I'm not just being critical of the, um, American Angus Association or anything, but, um, it, it's okay to be in slides in shorts in Oklahoma and it's okay to wear Pearl Snaps in California or Pocket Tee in Tennessee. I mean, we need to make sure that as soon as we clean up and put on a jacket and go somewhere that we still remember them roots because they're what brought us here. I. Absolutely. And there's a lot of people on that walk too. Um, and I don't know, man, I, I just love, love, love this business and the marathon that it is and, you know, where else can we see such tiny little victories all the time if we choose to see'em? Um, and the tiny little disasters all the time if we choose to focus on those, honestly. Absolutely. Um, so do, do you wanna know what a disaster is? I wanted to say, I wanted to say it's time for the lines of roar. Whenever you were talking about the little disasters and how, you know, we're at a crossroads and stuff or whatever, and I can't find the lion emoji on here and it's making me sense. That's sort of like the robot legs conversation, ting tink because it's completely has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Yeah. You know, and I brought it up. Are you guys ready to move on? Where are we at on time? We taped like 40 minutes yet. We're good. It's been like an hour 20. Do we have a, it's been an hour and four, the, the things at the top. Hey, those are not lions though. Those are, so how does, how does independence, they even tie into cattle rays and I think, I don't know. I don't know why those, these holidays cut so deep To me, I think it's because I think about all the people that we're ranch kids that sacrificed their life, or maybe they didn't even sacrifice their life in, in paying the ultimate price, but they sacrificed time of their life in service to protection of our independence. And I'm really, really passionate about this holiday. I think it's, I think it's also a faith holiday, uh, just like Christmas or Easter, to be honest with you, or Thanksgiving, because of the reverence that I have for those men and women who, um. Work hard and devote, devote either their own family members, their own time, their lives, in some unfortunate cases, um, for people they've never met, and for a mission absolute that they believe in. And, and I think that that was like when, when the world wars were going on, it was like when people at home were involved in the war too, and the manufacturing and in the bombs and all that stuff, it took everyone, like if we thought about our vocations, like we're involved in the war effort. We are, we are in the US army, if you will, of pulling on this same court for the American, you know, citizen. Um, I, I don't know. I think it just brings about. A different perspective. Um, and I always feel that way. Colin Davis is super normal, really, really normal guy. Yep. But whenever I've talked to him or text him, I just feel different. I just feel like I can never thank him enough. And, uh, I feel like I can never thank any service people enough. Um, my grandpa was in the service. He was in Korea. Um, unfortunately he doesn't like talking about it a lot because he experienced some pretty rough stuff. Um, but he came home, grandpa came home. Um, so I just wanted to mention that and I'd like to give you guys the opportunity to talk a little bit about that too. But it's, it is one of my favorite holidays to celebrate and to give thanks, Corvin on a little bit different note. I think you, you did a great job of describing the way I feel about our servicemen and women and everything they do. Just to keep us to where we can sit here and bicker about cows, I mean, right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the safety we have and the, and the advancements that our military's made is, is absolutely incredible. And for people not to recognize that it just frustrates you. I'll tell you guys, I don't really, I mean, I can take or leave fireworks, right? I mean, I think you either love'em or you're, you're kind of neutral or you don't care at all. I could take'em or leave them, okay? That's not why we go to four or five or, I, that's not why I go to four or five firework shows a year. Uh, sometimes it it's because I really enjoy seeing these citizens of this country all get together and celebrate for everything that we have. And you can see the excitement, you see kids running. Um, it's one of those times of year where the weather's really nice and it's just a good, everything's green and kind of vibrant, and it's a good time of year for people to get outside and enjoy God's creation. And so, uh, this time of year, I really just enjoy. The camaraderie that we have as people and to get to be in those opportunities where we can all go to our local park and hang out and have a food truck and sit in our lawn chairs and put, you know, glow sticks around our kids' necks and just watch'em run around and play, because there's lots of places where they aren't given that sort of freedom and, and, you know, so I really enjoy that time. Absolutely. No, it, it's, it's, I like the 4th of July because like what Joe and and Corbin were both saying all those things and I did not have a family member, um, to serve. But, um, I have great respect for the people that have served and do serve. And, um, you know, Colin is a good friend of mine and. You know, I talk to him all the time and I, I can't, I, I know I don't ever thank him enough for, for serving. And, and it's not just him. I mean, it's, it's everybody. It's all of'em. It's, it's those guys that just went on the mission, the guys and girls, because there was two females and somebody got bent outta shape because you just said the guys. But, um, you know, they, I get upset about it because the thing that irritates me more than anything is these men and women do all that they do. And a lot of them, when they come home, they need help. They need mental help, they need, um, physical help and. Like, I really, really wish that our VA was a little better than what it is. I don't know why they have to use the va. Um, but I know Trump was working on something for him. But like, I got great respect for veterans and man, I don't know that I could ever help one, but if I could, I'd be glad to do it because they, they've done a whole lot for me. And like Joe, we owe it to'em. We owe it to'em. Yes. And like Joe said, we didn't ask for it. We didn't ask'em to do it. They just stepped up and did it. They did it for the people that hate'em too. Yeah, exactly. I have no reason at all. They're still doing it for him. The people that burn the flags, the people that stand on the cars, the pur, the people that do all the terrible things. I mean, those people like Colin fight for those people to have the right in this country to be able to do that. Now, I will say this, it's pretty incredible those people that are doing that. Better. Be careful that they don't run into somebody like that. Be that on that has served because they will whoop the dog nasty outta'em. They, I can't say that they're all gonna be very nice about it, so I don't think I'll be very nice about it. I wouldn't either. So you, you guys talked about how, um, they're doing things for people that sometimes don't appreciate it. I kind of feel that way right now with what we're doing too. Um, you know, with, with, with us talking about how we wanna get people together and see what we could do to, to change some things within the association. There's people that don't wanna change anything. But ultimately I think, uh, I think it's a good idea for us to put our heads together and change something for them, even though they don't want it because it's what's needed. Corbin, that's such a great segue. That's your best one yet. I. Like, don't, don't bring up a robotic dog or anything like the Mizzou robotic dog, if you see that thing that plays fetch. No, no, I did it. So now I did it right. I brought up the left turn. But Eaton, but now you gotta tell me about this dog. No, it's incredible. It's a robot dog that plays fetch. He was running around with a coach of Mizzou, um, I don't know, during one of the college football things or whatever. And uh, that's awesome. Is he made outta metal? Yeah. Yeah. Fully AI dog. And Pat McCafe was screwing around with it and stuff, and it was, it was really, really funny. But, uh, ah, man. I'd rather have a real dog though. What I wanna say though, this is super important. It's a great way to you, you picked a great way to wrap up this, this show. Um, have you ever seen, Vince, you've been here a lot longer than even me. Have you ever seen a more opportune time for breeders to have a voice to get what they want? No. If we can get coordinated. I got to digging through the bylaws the other day, guys, because it was just as simple as I was trying to figure out, do I need to re, I just did a search, how much does it cost to register a calf? And then the age breakdowns, because it was starting to get more expensive. My calves were getting 10 months old and like every day it was$15 more,$15 more,$15 more. And I'm like, son of a gun, surely looking through the bylaws. So it was not every day,$15 more? No. But I was having like three calves a day. Oh. To five calves a day getting 10 months old. So at five bucks a piece, right? If I had 10 born that day, Vince, it's 50 bucks, right? And so finally I was like, gosh, I just gotta register these things. Um, by the way, I'll, I'll make noted that, um, the seven Wyatt brought home that are gonna make steers, uh, six of which had AI certificates, uh, and JS are freshly registered within the past 36 hours. So That's awesome. And so that, that. Ticks me off too. If you have had to buy an AI cert and then you end up culling it, that you can't get that back lot. And I don't know if you can of this, I mean, I wonder, I wonder if people would work with with me. You can. I've actually thought you can't, if you, if you do within 30 days, you can. So I probably need to talk to someone at the association about that. Oh yeah. You just registered'em, right? Yeah. I mean, they cleared Monday. Yeah. Yeah. You can call'em. Oh, that's, you might be able to get those, so maybe I can get'em, I can hopefully get'em applied to the heifers because the heifers I weighed on. So anyways, all that to be said, there's a, I started sifting through the bylaws and there were some other things that, governance wise, and then there were some rules, like particularly the gene edit rules that I was like, you know what? There's a great opportunity here to clarify some of these rules and change some of these rules so that we aren't opening this Pandora's box in another six months and another six months. So to Corbin's point. I think there's gotta be a disposition at the board to listen to people that have a thoughtful message that say, these are the things we want. So I would challenge our listeners to say, what are the things you want discern? Really spend the time discerning who you're gonna choose as your leader, um, or who you're going to listen to and rally around. Um, because I do think there's a lot of good people who just kind of sit in the middle, who are on the, on generally, who are on the same side of this issue that have now gone through their processes and said, okay, enough all the noise. What are we gonna do to move forward now? Right. What's the path forward? Um, so what, not to, to rehash stuff, but what did you find out about the gene editing? I found out that actually if they, the board approves a, it's called a founder gene. Okay. So it would be like the initial one. Um, it would be like, uh, your Alpha G thing.'cause we talked about that with Nate and Alpha-Gal Pork. Yeah. And Alpha Gal Pork just got approved, by the way, by the FDAI think it was or something. And so that's been a little bit of a hot button topic. But if we snipped out through CRISPR technology and inserted that in the cattle genome and said, Hey, this proposal has come to the board of directors. The board of directors have the authority to approve or deny that edit right now. O okay, so a year ago, this same board said that they would not be accepting gene editing. Then evidently they've had a conversation about it. So now not necessarily accepting it, but are, is open-minded enough to possibly accept it if they like it or think it, it's helpful. Is that, and, and I think the premise they would use is. Here's a perfect example of the premise because we always grab to the swing the pendulum, pendulum of far end. Yeah. What if we found a gene that could cure childhood cancer? And if by eating this beef you will not get cancer? We want to introduce that gene because of its industry appeal and its, you know, whatever to humanity. They can take that up for a vote. Um. I would contend actually this, and that's not, that's not the problem I had. I think there's an opportunity there that some of these things probably need to go to a percentage of the membership vote, like a two thirds majority or something is what I would personally like to see. Right, exactly. Of the voting members or the second one though, that was most disturbing to me. Are you, are you Hold on one seconding. Me, Bennett Cor Uh, Bennett Corbin, were you Hold on one. No, I just, I just ranted without saying words. So here's the one that I have the problem with and I don't think this was thought about. And if it was, shame on whoever thought about it. The designation to show that an animal is gene edited. Do you know what it is? The poop emoji call meth. GEFI think it's GEF or GAF, which means genetic altered genetic edit. Founder give a. Joe Fisher's personal opinion is that's disingenuous because we have conditioned a commercial customer and a purebred customer that F means free of a defect. That's true. I. And so when people see that on a pedigree, they're already gonna say, oh, this is fine, this is fine, this is fine. Just move on. And it may be fine, but I think we have an obligation to really look at how we label those animals so that it's very clear when someone uses it. Here's an example, Vince. Somebody comes and they're done with Shady. You're done with Shady Brook, you retire. They buy Shady Brook, and they say, you know what? We really like this bull. He's, uh, his, his name is, uh, Joe Fisher, full power, and we're gonna use a hundred straws of Joe Fisher full power. And they use'em and they keep all these daughters and then they end up being impactful in the herd. And you can't ever get that edit out. And then they find out, oh yeah, by the way, that was a, a gene edit. I think we need to be very clear in the future of denoting which ones of these have it and which ones don't, when it goes out in the population. I also think that the edits ought to be. Like helpful, like the Alpha gal thing. Mm-hmm. Or I mean, as much as, I hate to say it, it's a little self-serving, but like if I could edit the flies, don't like my cows, that would be so awesome. But, but like to edit something silly, like marbling, like just breed for more marbling. You shouldn't have to edit that. And that's, I think it's going to be high traits. I worry that, that they would do, I think it will be like, I would imagine the big, so what you've touched on though is one that scares me to be honest with you, because that touches on people's formation and their personal morals and everything because there's a spectrum. You're okay with editing for flies, somebody else isn't, for example. Oh, I'm sure. And somebody else is like, Hey, we would love, we're tired in Florida of getting discounted for these cracker cattle, for example. Floridans don't hate me, but they need that kind of a loose hide brush kind of a cow, right? I mean, at least that's what I've seen on the cowboy videos. But now we can use an Angus that is white that'll have value in the marketplace. I think that's where these think tanks from BIF and different breed improvement type think tanks. That's where they're going with a lot of this stuff. And I actually think that's gonna present some real challenges and trust to the consumer. And like I said, Angus breeders, there is a spectrum, what you're comfortable with and what you're not. And we need to make sure, you know, the board, doesn't the board kind of generally look the same? Absolutely. Yeah. And until we get a diversity of influencers making these decisions. I believe that there's always going to be a portion of the membership. Is he okay? Where'd he go? Yeah, he's fine. I think he just died or something. But why did turn off his video? Because he was coughing. He didn't want us to see him coughing. He probably just screwed it up again. What happened? He's still doing it. You all right? You look, he's fine. Alright guy. But anyways, um, I just, I just think we need to make sure that the membership is heard because we need the strength of the membership. The cure to Alpha Gal or the Cure to health traits or whatever is lying somewhere in the haulers of Tennessee or the corner of Montana at some unheard of herd where somebody's been breeding along forever. And there's also ways to get ahold of those genes. I. Through just breeding'em through, which is my job and Corbin's job and Vince's job. So, I don't know, I took us on a hell of a detour. But you started at Corbin and I actually think it was a good detour. It really was. Can we please, can we, do you have something to say, Vince? Well, I was gonna say ha have they announced, you know, you said something about our board looking very similar. Mm-hmm. Have they announced some nominations yet? Because I, no, I would be willing to bet that the people that were already lined up to run would look very similar as well. That's another thing we need to talk about is, is maybe we can get some nominees added after the fact because of the way things have been so polarizing. But last year the list of, uh, candidates came out in the middle of August. So, um, be looking for that around that time. And I actually thought that was a solution too, to improve some of the communication is a one pager from the board saying, listen, our memberships become fully engaged. There's new things popping up. People are passionate. Um, let me, let us extend the nomination period of delegates, if that's what's wanted. That's if, if, if member interaction is desired. Something like that. Makes sense. Transparency is an easy choice to make. Corbin very hard to do. It's hard, hard to do, but it's easy if you want to do it. You can do the things, but you have to do the things. No, but, and the, the issue is that some people, they don't for whatever, for some people, for whatever reason, think they're smarter than you. And in reality, um, there's a lot of people that think they're smarter than I am, that I would, I. Like to talk to them about real world stuff, anytime of day that they're ready because I think they live in a different world than the one I live in. Correct. Can we please, please do these things before we quit these? What things would you rather questions? Oh my goodness. Oh, you've been saving them. Are you still talking about that? They're pretty funny, but I've wanted to do movie quotes for like six months now. And you think it's stupid so we don't do it. I don't that Who think it's stupid? I don't think it's stupid. I wanna do it Next episode. Okay, next episode. Right after we do, right after we do your Would you rather questions? Because that for the next three episodes, we're each gonna do three. Okay. What about what? What movie? Mom? The meat Go. You boys like Mexico. Okay. Okay. Would you rather question one? Would you rather spend your Saturday morning working cows or at home with family? Who am I working cows with? Not spec, it's not specified in the question. It, but it, it could be a huge problem. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Uh, keep in mind who you normally work cows with. I don't know. Who would you, would you rather work cows or sit on your keer at home watching farmer? Once a while. Oh, you said sit on your keister or spend time with family. Just add home with family. That's different. That's different. Cor Yeah. No, I'm not on that. Sorry. So you're home at family, home with family? No, I'm, I'm bad. I'm bad. Dad I'd, I would rather work cattle and I would prefer that my family was there. And that's what my answer to the question was. You could do both. Yes. I wanna work cows, but yes, I want my family to be there. So you could do both. Yes, I win. Okay. I win outta of the year still, right? Okay. Yep. Next one. Okay. Question two. Would you rather eat brisket or a fancy steak dinner? Fancy brisket. Best brisket you. Best. Best brisket you've ever had. Or best steak you've ever had. Steak. Yeah, steak for sure. Sorry, frosty. I, unless Frosty's eating it. I choose brisket. I cook every day that every day of the week. I love brisket. It's so good. And the thing I love that is sneaky about brisket, it's very easy to reheat. So if you have leftovers, you can't screw it. It's so good. Brisket is so good. Hey, this is a good, if you say this is a good little rapid fire deal, if you say steak, then we need to have some brisket down here one day because only, man, I'm telling you steak. Okay, come then you gotta come to Oklahoma. All right, last question that I got, and this has nothing to do with cows. This is mainly for Vince, but can you pause here in case we just chop this one off? Okay. Give it a second here. Do, do, do. Would you rather be bald or have a head full of shiny white hair? Uh, bald. Well, that's convenient. No, dude, I hate it. Like, I hate you hate hair. I hate having my hair. You don't have, I hate shaving. I just went, oh yeah. My hair was so long. The little bit of hair I got was so long today that it was driving me nuts. I don't Like you would have, if you grew your beard out and you grew your hair out, it was about that long and you trimmed, would the hair, would the, would the pile of hair be bigger off your chin or off your head, Vince, which grows faster. The beard grows fast. Your beard is legendary, like it's thick. And so playoff beard, it's the playoff beard. Look at it. I'll never have this again. So enjoy it while it's there because I'm just doing it. You put oil in it? I have to because it gets gross. It gets like, uh, coarse. If you don't put some stuff in there, I don't know. You know, the worst is like when I brush my teeth in the morning and all this is long, like it can never get it all out. It is like sticky on. No, it's not sticky. It's just like I, I wipe it with a rag or a towel and then I just have to just keep wearing it out to get it all out. Drool, it's the worst. It's no, it wasn't drool, it was from brush my teeth or like if you're eating ice cream now with this big long beard, sometimes you're like, it'll get in and it'll be sticky and you don't even know it and you just look like a dummy. I usually shave. I. At this, but I shave on Saturday night for church on Sunday morning. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. I, I don't like, I can't get it to fill in. My dad has a mustache like yeah, I do a, a thin one. No, no. His mustache is pretty, pretty epic. Can you grow a playoff beard for us? I, I mean, I could try for 20, 27. If I start tomorrow. Just, just commit. Just commit to a month. You can pick the month. It doesn't have to be right, but what playoffs? Well, you pick the playoffs. The players are probably rookies right now. We don't even know the teams. It doesn't even have to be that kind of team. You could say I'm doing it for Miles's baseball team. If Miles even. Does he still play baseball? No, he'd be a grandfather by then. Vince, what did you say about Nate? He don't, I said no. I said, I said Blake. Blake had shave tonight and by what's today? Tuesday, by Thursday I have a full beard. Holy. That's smoke and it's dark. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's a dark fella. Okay. He's got to, would you rather lose your cell phone or your car keys? F that car. I didn't need my phone. Well, I can't call anyone. Exactly. If you lose your keys, you could call somebody and say, Hey, I lost my keys. Bring me another set. Did I tell you what? Abby bought me a new wallet. It's got a GPS in it that finds it, that finds it off his phone. It's got a apple ear tag. You lose your wallet that much. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. What kind of irresponsible person are you? Well, I never take it anywhere other than when I go to town and I don't want it in my pocket all day at the ranch, I'll lose it. Okay. Would you rather sing everything you say or dance every time you walk? I am going to dance, dance, dance with my hands. Dance above my head. I want to dance, man. Could I ch chant I sing to too. You though? Can I chant it? Like, like, I don't know. You didn't s say you had to sing it. Well yeah, I probably better sing'cause I can't dance. Me neither. That's why I want, I need to practice Vince to answer that one. Oh, that was Amy. Amy found all these, um. There was like, I didn't get all this one typed in. So would you rather have eight umbrellas? You don't use 9, 9, 9. You don't use or be somewhere and not have an umbrella and need it? Depends. Do I need my car or anything besides storage for umbrellas? I just can't find them. We're everywhere. You know? She was like, golly, I can't find my umbrella. I'll buy some better buy another one. Oh man. Are you guys ready to wrap? Move those books. Where's your, where's your, have you ever or whatever? No, he's gonna do his next one. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it next week. We might each need, we'll come. We'll you didn't have it. Did you rather ever, did you rather whatever? You rather would you rather You want me to read what my last one is? Yes. I didn't get to finish typing it in. Yeah. So I've got vacation alone or with people. Surely there was more to that. Surely, surely, surely there was more to that. Like maybe with people you don't like or that you, I don't know. I want to say, I said, how many times have y'all heard me say I love my family? How many? A lot. Lot. I want a vacation alone. Boring. Like the first day you'd be so pumped and by like day two or three you'd be like, this is so boring. So I got a good Regie. Would you rather? But it doesn't fit this vibe. So we'll do it on the next one. Oh, come on. No, because then it goes back to the cerebral Joe question. Serious. And we just got off of the screw. Hey, that was the rule though, about the Woody rathers. You can have some serious ones, but you gotta bring some funny too. So be thinking about, I'll use AI to do it and then it'll be too. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna go move some steers. Take it away. Okay. So yeah, two are still here. He's still here. We love him again. We love him again. Think. Yeah. We love him again. Remember his, uh, what was it? He, he brought it, he, he got back in our love. Good. Grace was comment, some comment. His kid has a straw hat that's exact same as my straw hat. And yes, he does the flatbed. It doesn't, it's got kind of a flat brim. So, yeah, he's back in. Yeah. Take it away there. Take it away. We will see you next time around the shoot.